Out with the OPKs, ban the body temping; here's Just Shagging thread 14!

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Rockchick1984 Sat 02-Feb-13 00:04:55

Ladies, Fred title says it all; we are the ones who shag as much as our men can cope with in order to get upduffed without the stress of scientific whatnots!

Fred rules (copied from previous Fred)

1. Thou shalt shag as much as humanly possible in order to get upduffed.
2. Thou shalt not partake of OPKs, temping, or charting.
3. Thou shalt keep symptom spotting to a minimum.
4. Thou shalt share and with your fredmates where needed.

JSing lingo;

ERTD = Evil Red Tide of Dooooooommmmmmm. Or AF to most others.

Pant snot = Egg white cervical mucus.

Doing a kitten = Getting upduffed soon after joining (warning: may induce in other posters).

Viroid = This is you, dear poster. This is from the first JS thread when someone tried to type 'ladies' and it autocorrected to 'Viroids' - so there you go!

POAS = Pee On A Stick (of the pregnancy detecting kind, not from a tree). Also known as PIAR (Pee In A Ramekin - cos we're posh birds innit). Or PIATLH (Tea light holder) PIAWG (Wine glass) or anything else you care to pee in!

Shagging like something = JSing like a teenage nymphomaniac.

Giving a hooya = Giving a much needed slap to a fellow poster in danger of slipping into ttc obsession.

Contraband = Of COURSE none of us EVER partake of any silly opk's or temp charting. They are Contraband

The link to Part 13 is here

The link to the latest grads thread is here

Happy shagging shaggers

Rockchick1984 Sat 02-Feb-13 00:10:21

Can I start the roll call Ladies?

Name: Rockchick1984
Any DC's: 1 DS, 22 months
TTC since: September, but had 2 months off at one point!

cookielove Sat 02-Feb-13 01:26:56

Name: Rockchick1984Any DC's: 1 DS, 22 monthsTTC since: September, but had 2 months off at one point!

cookielove Sat 02-Feb-13 01:31:31

Sorry stupid phone

Name: Rockchick1984
*Any DC's:* 1 DS, 22 months
*TTC since:* September, but had 2 months off at one point!

name: cookielove
any DC's: nope
TTC: sept 2012


MotherOfCleo Sat 02-Feb-13 08:37:07

Name: Rockchick1984
*Any DC's:* 1 DS, 22 months
*TTC since:* September, but had 2 months off at one point!

name: cookieloveany
DC's: nope
TTC: sept 2012

Name: MotherOfCleo
DC's: nope ttc#1
TTC: sept 2012

fish88 Sat 02-Feb-13 09:03:12

Name: Rockchick1984
Any DC's: 1 DS, 22 months
TTC since: September, but had 2 months off at one point!

Name: cookieloveany
DC's: nope
TTC: sept 2012

Name: MotherOfCleo
DC's: nope ttc#1
TTC: sept 2012

Name: Fish88
Any DC's: Nope, TTC 1
TTC: January 2013

AQuarkTooFar Sat 02-Feb-13 09:19:55

Name: Rockchick1984
Any DC's: 1 DS, 22 months
TTC since: September, but had 2 months off at one point!

Name: cookieloveany
DC's: nope
TTC: sept 2012

Name: MotherOfCleo
DC's: nope ttc#1
TTC: sept 2012

Name: Fish88
Any DC's: Nope, TTC 1
TTC: January 2013

Name: AQuarkTooFar
Any DCs: no
TTC: since Nov 2012

Bearface Sat 02-Feb-13 09:36:37

Name: Rockchick1984
Any DC's: 1 DS, 22 months
TTC since: September, but had 2 months off at one point!

Name: cookieloveany
DC's: nope
TTC: sept 2012

Name: MotherOfCleo
DC's: nope ttc#1
TTC: sept 2012

Name: Fish88
Any DC's: Nope, TTC 1
TTC: January 2013

Name: AQuarkTooFar
Any DCs: no
TTC: since Nov 2012

Name: Bearface
DCs: Nope
TTC: Think I put something different last time, but realised from checking phone it is now since July 2012. 8 months! Sigh . . .

Rockchick1984 Sat 02-Feb-13 16:15:06

Aww, sorry Bearface you may have to take my longest JSer crown I've decorated it with pink glitter and accessorised it with a bottle of champagne I couldn't remember when we started either, thought it was longer ago than Sept but went back through my old posts and it was very early sept.

When's everyone testing next? Still not figured out my apps blush so ERTD is due some time between 4th an 7th, debating if I should hold out and see by the 7th or if I should test earlier (have got about 50 IC's so thinking I may as well use some...) smile

fish88 Sat 02-Feb-13 17:16:30

I'm not testing until the 18th Feb so got a long way to go yet.

Bearface Sat 02-Feb-13 17:27:00

Aww thanks Rock. Very sweet of you. Your crown sounds lovely. Can I add a feather? It depends if you want to keep the crown or not though, Rock? I think you've been on this thread longer than me though so it's debateable. I joined late Sept I think. But yes, we've been going at it for a while now. sad This must be our thread surely, Rock?! Red has been here a while too - sorry Red - so maybe we can all squeeze our heads into it together?!

Think I'll be testing around 14th/15th if I can hold out that long.

cookielove Sat 02-Feb-13 18:14:40

Hello all, noticed we didn't put are ages onto this thread, or where we are, so i'm thinking i'll pretend i am 21, and in Hollywood, it will help keep my spirits up when i don't get my BFP. sad

Bearface sept 2012?

Whats the longest anyone has been on this kind of thread?

Rockchick1984 Sat 02-Feb-13 18:17:44

Rummages through my niece's dressing up box I've found 2 more crowns, some fairy wings and that damn unicorn was in there too grin all us veteran JSers are going to look ace!!

This WILL be our thread, have you finished all your tests or are there still more to come? If it doesn't happen within the next few months for us we will stop for a while as I really don't want a baby born very close to Christmas if I can help it!

Rockchick1984 Sat 02-Feb-13 18:18:57

Oooh, Cookie can I be 18 and in Hawaii???

cookielove Sat 02-Feb-13 18:20:56

Eh hem i would like to point out to you all that my name has been changed, all be it by accident to cookieloveany shock that is not my name i feel like a but of a floozy with that name eh hem blush

cookielove Sat 02-Feb-13 18:26:01

Of course RockChick hows Hawaii this time of year?

MotherOfCleo Sat 02-Feb-13 18:40:05

sorry cookie I think that's my fault....damn phone sad sorry blush

Could someone add me to list please, I'm always on my phone!

Name: thethreeblondies
DC's: DD1 age 7 DD2 age 3
TTC: Jan 2012 (but left with nonsticky bfp's twice, then went awol for a bit!)

Would also like to be 18 again but that would make me 11 when I had DD!

Another friend had her baby today, but know it was a long awaited for one so trying hard not to be too envy

cookielove Sat 02-Feb-13 18:51:43

No problemo cleo i just noticed the running theme of my name change <eek>

Bearface Sat 02-Feb-13 19:29:20

Revised edition:

Name: Rockchick1984
Any DC's: 1 DS, 22 months
TTC since: September, but had 2 months off at one point!

Name: cookielove
DC's: nope
TTC: sept 2012

Name: MotherOfCleo
DC's: nope ttc#1
TTC: sept 2012

Name: Fish88
Any DC's: Nope, TTC 1
TTC: January 2013

Name: AQuarkTooFar
Any DCs: no
TTC: since Nov 2012

Name: Bearface
DCs: Nope
TTC: Think I put something different last time, but realised from checking phone it is now since July 2012. 8 months! Sigh . . .

Name: thethreeblondies
DC's: DD1 age 7 DD2 age 3
TTC: Jan 2012 (but left with nonsticky bfp's twice, then went awol for a bit!)

Thanks Bear lets hope this is a lucky fred for all of us xx

MelodyHarmony Sat 02-Feb-13 20:01:25

Ooh new fred. Well done. I'm on my phone and can't do any fancy copying... can someone add me to the roll call please?
Name: MelodyHarmony
DCs: 3 (7, 5 and 1)
TTC since: Jan 2013
Age: over the hill 37
Location: South east.

cookielove Sat 02-Feb-13 20:58:57

Oh no i need to do some calculations, my brother is getting married in California next year in June/July they have set a date can not remember what it is though, i really don't want to be a pregnant grooms maid smile so really what do you think is the latest i can get pregnant by and have a baby before the wedding. Eek i am rubbish with working these things out, someone please help me?

Also they are having trips to Disney land as part of the wedding shock and i wouldn't be able to go on any of the rides if i was pregnant. Please help!!

Name: HumptyDumptyBumpty
DCs: none
TTC since: Oct 2012
Age: 32
Location: London

cookie your OH is a chancer, eh?! (but more JSing is good, right? And you can get upduffed on top, you CAN!)

ERTD got me today - after threatening for A WEEK (ffs), it came with a vengeance. I also POAS today before it and got a BFN so it wasn't a shock. Still, going to a baby shower this afternoon made me a bit sad and envy but also grin for the lovely girl who is 3 and a half weeks off due. That will be all of us soon - I asked to to give me good sticky bean vibes for us all and she gave me a massive hug which I'm passing on to ALL of you. xxx

Rockchick1984 Sun 03-Feb-13 00:08:48

Cookie you've got to conceive by September if the wedding's June, October if July. Plenty of time still for you!!! Hopefully it'll be sooner so that you're not stressing about a newborn on a long flight, getting baby's passport in time etc!! I'm so jealous, would love to go to Disney again (not been since I was a kid) but can't really afford it and would want to go and relax about things, not worrying about what we could afford once we got there!

cookielove Sun 03-Feb-13 11:18:16

Rockchick thanks thats great to know, i've been to America loads (my mum is american) but never been to disney land, so pretty excited about it. I've called my brother peter pan for the last 10 years, cause he's never gonna grow up so it will be nice to see him making a commitment like this to his fiancée smile

humpty dh is def that, i will believe i will believe i can get up duffed on top, <chants to self> grin

frogchops Sun 03-Feb-13 17:23:48

Just de lurking to say hi and to add that I should be able to steam coming from those capes! Come on girls, again again!

fish88 Sun 03-Feb-13 19:33:55

Managed to DTD every day this weekend and OH is off work this week so should be able to manage a few more grin

Rockchick1984 Sun 03-Feb-13 21:16:38

Sounds good Fish, any idea when you're due to ovulate?

I'm determined I'm not going to pee on anything for at least a few more days; I don't feel pregnant (but I didn't feel pregnant with DS either until about 8 weeks) and am due a visit from the witch some time in the next 4 days - I won't test I won't test I won't test when should I test???

still here so i'll quit lurking and join in! i think the last thread i got chance to read was about 2 threads ago! Hubby is away for 3 days so no more shagging this end... although according to the dreaded ov tests, im not flippin fertile anymore this month anyway!

We have tried everything, which is why im so desperate as to pee on sticks and declare 'right, we must SHAG NOW!' (i know, i must look at my sexiest with my hands on my hips, all demanding like... well maybe hubby is into that.. making a note to ask him!)

Name: Kiddingmyself32
DCs: 3 (13, 12 and 8)
TTC since: August 2012 (i think??? no way, its been longer, surely?!)
Age: 32
Location: Nearish Leeds

notsoold Mon 04-Feb-13 00:28:03

Hi all....jsing for Britain here ( not really...but it sounded good!!!
Have a good week everyone

Bearface Mon 04-Feb-13 10:06:32

Haha - sounds like a Saturday night TV programme Notso - 'Britain's Just Shagging'!

GaryBuseysTeeth Mon 04-Feb-13 11:47:42

cookie, I was on here for 10 months. The only other lady who was here longer than me is on one of the IVF/assisted TTC threads & is on about 2 years ttc#1.

Good luck for everyone nearing the tww, and for those of you donning shag capes this week!

notsoold Mon 04-Feb-13 12:23:28


Bearface Mon 04-Feb-13 19:31:33

Oh dear. DH has been sick last week and all weekend, but we still managed to DTD yesterday, so managed CDs 13, 16, and 18. Not sure if it was at the right times, but there we are. We did our best. Hope we caught ov. Think I ov'd over the weekend. DH is still sick so don't think we'll manage any more for a bit for TTC, although we might for fun when he's better.

Hope everyone else is okay and managing to get it on! How is your week going so far?

fish88 Mon 04-Feb-13 19:52:47

rockchick Haven't quite worked out my cycle since coming off BCP but think I should be ov'ing sometime between 2nd-5th February. Not seen any EWCM yet so unsure if it has happened already. DTD plenty of times this week so should catch it whenever it happens.

I'm still half convinced I'm pregnant from last month, despite having very light AF. Not going to let myself POAS stick until 18th. FX that those of ypou who have been trying for a long time plus the rest of us all get your BFP soon.

Ariel21 Mon 04-Feb-13 20:12:57

Hi everyone! Just shagging since January, can someone please add me?

Name: Ariel21
DCs: No
TTC since Jan 2013
Age: 29
Location: Wiltshire

I read all of the last JS thread without joining in as was waiting to start!

fish88 Mon 04-Feb-13 20:21:16

Spoke too soon... Pant snot has arrived! Best get that cape back out grin

cookielove Mon 04-Feb-13 20:32:16

I dtd last night and i'm really glad as i did a extremely hard boxercise class tonight and even typing seems to be a struggle <exhausted>

frogchops Mon 04-Feb-13 21:20:21

Bear, I for upduffed when I was ill!
Lots of upduff germs for you! Was the weekend I least expected it, none of this hips up, bum on pillow crap either!

Rockchick1984 Tue 05-Feb-13 08:16:43

Erm.... Guys? Faint BFP on an Internet cheapie here....

GaryBuseysTeeth Tue 05-Feb-13 09:09:04

YAY!!! ROCK!!! Capitals because I'm so pleased for you.

I'll stop because it's annoying now grin
But yaaaaaaaaaay!!

Are you going to test again tomorrow? And everyday until you're poor from poas like I do?

Rockchick1984 Tue 05-Feb-13 09:21:24

Thanks Gary! I've got about 50 IC's, so I can pee to my heart's content grin

Will leave it a bit longer then do a clearblue digi but obviously as I'd been tracking I know my dates, so long as its a sticky then I'm due 18th October!!

Rockchick1984 Tue 05-Feb-13 09:22:53

Oh and Frog (if you're still loitering) how long did it take for your cold to go? I've had this one for 2 weeks now, it's the only pregnancy symptom I've got but it's annoying me now!

notsoold Tue 05-Feb-13 09:35:13

Congratulations Rock!!! Xxxx excellent news!!!

frogchops Tue 05-Feb-13 11:11:21

Rooocckkkk!! Yessss!
Saw you on the grads, wahooooo!
Cold didnt last too long, but its the best cold you'll ever have! grin
Eeeee I'm so pleased for you!

fish88 Tue 05-Feb-13 11:16:06

Congratulations Rock!
Amazing news! grin

MelodyHarmony Tue 05-Feb-13 12:43:32

Yay Rock well done on getting upduffed grin

crazycatlady82 Tue 05-Feb-13 14:29:08

Oh this is definitely the thread I should be on!

Joined once before but DH and I changed out minds.

Our present thinking extended as far as we had run out of condoms and thought f* it!

So here I am! It was mid cycle and my period tracker said it was during my ovulating time so, well now desperate for wine but avoiding!

I should add I was organised enough to be taking folic acid but that's about it.

Now desperate to POAS but period tracker indicates I need to wait until the 13th.

I have stomach and back cramps like my period is due so this is all making me a bit crazy this week.

Can I say it again?


Oh yes and hi all smile


crazycatlady82 Tue 05-Feb-13 14:30:22

Oh and Rock HUGE congrats smile

Congrats Rock saw you on the grads fred - have fun peeing on the 49 remaining ICs smile

MelodyHarmony Tue 05-Feb-13 16:45:37

Hi CrazyCat. Nice to meet you. Being organised enough to be taking folic acid is the only thing you really need to be organised about.

I'm due on the 13th as well. This is only my second month of JS. But my fifth time of trying to get upduffed (one MMC and three DCs).

MelodyHarmony Tue 05-Feb-13 16:47:33

Oh and the period like symptoms annoy confuse me every time I'm JSing. I just wish there was a green light on my tummy the minute implantation had occurred!

Bearface Tue 05-Feb-13 18:09:53

Oh wow -congrats Rock- that's made my day! I'm soooooo pleased for you. grin

Hi all from the grads thread <waves>

MrsBri Tue 05-Feb-13 18:19:06

Congrats Rock :-)

Good luck to all in the 2WW. Fx you join us in grads soon.

Just ordered me some ic's! let's hope they take at least a week to get here blush

cookielove Tue 05-Feb-13 20:59:40

Congratulations Rock yay i am so happy for you.

I don't know what is wrong with me at the moment i seem to be all over the place. My brain doesn't seem to be working anymore.

Just found out 2 more people are pregnant that is 4 now smile its pregnancy fever around here.

crazycatlady82 Wed 06-Feb-13 06:59:23

Hey melody <waves>

It's so exciting we will be due to poas at the same time smile

I just can't wait to know, probably because its my first month of not trying to avoid getting pregnant, well ever. I do hope the tww gets easier though or until I so get upduffed is going to be a monthly case of really being crazy!

Off for breakfast smile

Hey guys , can I join?

Am a serial lurker have been TTC since June 2012 and now decided its time to try the JS way!

So ....

Name : babyiwantabump
Dc's: 1 DD age 8
TTC : since June 2012
BFP due : 14th feb
Age: 27
Location : West Midlands

Congrats to those who have their BFP !! And FX to all those on 2ww

Welcome babyiwant I'll be due bfp (definatly not ertd!) on 14th too! and at least 2 are due the 13th weird how we are synchronizing out cycles like women thay live together! Absolutly not a sign of too much time spent on mn! grin I ordered some ic's yesterday but will try and fail to hold out as long as possible and definatly not symptom spot!

Bearface Wed 06-Feb-13 10:57:51

Hi Baby and CrazyCat - welcome! Baby - that's a long time to lurk! Glad you've delurked now though.

threeblondies - I'm in that camp too! I'll be testing on 14th/15th.

Poor DH hasn't been well at all, so we've only DTD three times! Not sure it'll give us enough chances but really hoping so. Feel like I need something to change in my life - either a BFP or a new job as I feel like I'm just drifting along ATM. Or maybe it's just because it's rainy today that I feel a bit hmm?

Bearface Wed 06-Feb-13 15:17:12

Well, it's stopped raining here. DH got his second SA results back today and they have said that (for the second time) they are borderline. They seem to be on the right side of borderline though. He's really upset and I think he's blaming himself for us not being able to conceive. sad Except he keeps saying he's alright, but I know he's not. I don't know what to do to help him. I've tried reassuring him that it should be okay. Even the doctor when he saw him for the first set of results said it could be a lot worse and it may just take longer than expected. Not sure what to do. sad The doctor is off sick so he can't even book an appointment to discuss with him.

Glad the rain has stopped Bear I'm generally much happier when the suns shining! I'm sure MrBear will be ok once the news has sunk in (presuming he is like mine whose brain is a little laid back but catches up eventually) at least if u know there's a potential issue u can investigate ways to help nature take it's course (vitamins? positions when dtd etc?) it only takes 1 little swimmer! x

Bearface Wed 06-Feb-13 16:23:32

Yes, I'm sure he'll be fine too Threeblondies. Thanks for the advice.

fish88 Wed 06-Feb-13 17:20:04

Hello Baby <waves> This seems to be a lucky thread, so many BFPs! grin

MelodyHarmony Wed 06-Feb-13 19:34:11

ThreeBlondies, it's me and CrazyCat that are due on the 13th, then you and Baby on the 14th. Some BFPs on those days would be great Valentines presents eh?

Hi Baby welcome. We are all full of fun and slightly crazy. We try not to get stressed or highly-strung about JSing, symptoms and the 2ww easier said than done I think the support and the laughs really help to keep the whole thing lighthearted, we even have capes and a unicorn (although I've not heard much about him for a while).

Bear sorry to hear MrBear has had that news. I think that would really shake my DH up. It's a bit of a knock on a man's manhood, isn't it? Don't worry that you've only JSed three times though. I've conceived before on a very 'lean' month in the bedroom department, just one 'session'. I've only JSed twice at the right time this month. IT ONLY TAKES ONE LITTLE SPERMIE THOUGH!

Anyway, I'm off to choir rehearsals so I'll pop in again tomorrow to check up on you all. See if you can't find that unicorn please, someone, I miss him.

M x

cookielove Wed 06-Feb-13 21:34:14

I feel my heart hasn't been in it this month, my knees and back have been sore and we've only dtd a few times, even though i'm still somewhere in the middle of my cycle i can't help feeling this month 'whats the point' still mad at my body for tricking me i think.

Any way after this months ERTD i am gonna get my game face back on, wash my cape, and dtd like never before grin

Just had a little pick on skype with my sister and nephew he has the cutest laugh, such a sweetie pie!!

Bearface Wed 06-Feb-13 22:04:17

Thanks Melody - actually he's been alright since he got home from work. I think he was just a bit shocked but he's okay now. I'm counting on that one little spermie to get itself in the right place, but if it has happened it would have happened by now. So I'm just waiting til I can find out.

I feel like I've been on this fred for ages and ages now. I really wish it would just happen for me and DH. I know everyone wants it to happen obviously, but I feel like everyone (apart from Red - where are you Red?) I started on here with has graduated, but not me. Sigh. Sliding into self-pity - help me someone. Think it's because of DH's results. In need of a hooya or hand squeeze please?

BTW I think Gary took the unicorn away with her to the grads fred. Sorry Gary if it was someone else. Might have to go off and find a unicorn of my own somewhere . . .

MelodyHarmony Wed 06-Feb-13 22:07:04

Come on Cookie, dust that cape off and climb back on the shag wagon. What have you got to lose? You can do it.

Maybe you need a new cape to liven things up a bit. Can I temp you in this season's latest...? The peplum cape with leopard print lining. Sure to flatter any figure and with that added grrrrrr inside, what man could refuse?!

MelodyHarmony Wed 06-Feb-13 22:10:35

<hand squeezes a plenty> for you Bear. I know the stats have only just been posted but I have a head like a sieve... How long have you been on here? Are you the longest serving JSer? You have the crown, right?

Ok, off to hunt down my own unicorn then.

Rockchick1984 Thu 07-Feb-13 07:57:33

Bear and cookie (and red if you're still around) you need to get your BFP's and come graduate with me!! If you're still here by the end of the Fred, try to start the next one - everyone that's started a Fred has got their BFP shortly afterwards!! gives bear a sly cuddle when no one is watching

We decided to tell our parents - if anything goes wrong I'd want my mum and dad to know; and we couldn't tell my parents and not DH's. Going to book a scan around 8 weeks and if all seems good and there's a heartbeat then we will tell other family and friends - keeping it off Facebook as long as possible though!

Welcome to the new JSers! smile

notsoold Thu 07-Feb-13 09:43:58

Bear...don't give up! I have been lurking and posting ( sometimes) at this fred for sure since end of june and maybe even before that. Maybe I am of the oldest here hanging around and hoping? And if helps I am 41 already!!! smile
What I am trying to say is hang in there, ok???

MelodyHarmony Thu 07-Feb-13 10:12:41

I think Baby and ThreeBlondies have both been TTC for some time too. I wish we didn't need lots of crowns for longest JSers but I might have to pop down to the market today to get some more plastic high quality tiaras for all you lovely ladies.

I've said it before repetitive cow but I can sympathise with the pain of waiting for a long time to get upduffed. My situation wasn't so desperate as I already had two DCs but it took 14 months to get upduffed with DC3. Just hang in there, keep JSing and try to relax. Mine happened when I was much less stressed about it all.

Must get my butt off the sofa - just drinking hot choc, eating biscuits, watching The Wright Stuff! Must clean upstairs, must clean upstairs, must clean upstairs...

I'm wearing purple today melody just in case u see a coordinating tiara! I'm drinking tea watching homes under the hammer, must clean kitchen and bathroom, must clean kitchen and bathroom!

I'm a lot more laid back this month, we dtd loads so there is no more I could do, no symptoms yet (not of course that I'm looking anyway!) maybe a bit cramping than usual, but last month I had imagined loads of symptoms and was a bit gutted! so definatly trying to be more chilled this month x

MelodyHarmony Thu 07-Feb-13 12:21:18

Purple tiara with pink insert jewels coming your way ThreeBlondies... Catch!

Homes Under the Hammer, I haven't watched that for ages, that might be tomorrow's viewing! Although it does rather remind me of the time I was off work when I'd had a miscarriage 8 years ago. I think I watched it every day for a week!

Is your kitchen and bathroom clean yet? I still haven't made it upstairs for any cleaning there, although I have dusted the lounge. I thought I could get on with that whilst watching TV!

I'm really trying my hardest NOT to look for any symptoms AT ALL this month. It just does my head in. This time next week I will know if I'm late or not. I just keep telling myself I can wait a week. I reckon ERTD will have me by this time next week anyway, we JSed on CD 10 and 12 and I'm pretty sure I ov'ed on CD15 so we may have been too early. Ho hum!

AQuarkTooFar Thu 07-Feb-13 12:28:00

Argh why is the 2ww soooooooooo looooooonnnnnnnnggggggggg!

ERTD/BFP due 12th but I am trying not to test until 14th too!

not even thinking about doing a frer tonight

Yes AQuark the 2ww is very very very long!!!!! I've ordered some sensitive ic's and was almost relieved they didn't come in the post today! Not sure when I will test, if I go by app (average cycle) I'll be due to test on 14th but I think 14dpo is more like 12th/13th! (so I'll probaby test on the 11th lol!)

If I've got this right (had to write it down as on phone so can't check back) Melody CrazyCat Baby and Bear are also in the 2ww and due to test/graduate next week too (positive thinking ladies!)

Loving the tiara Melody thanks, have half heartedly started on kitchen, and then got distracted looking at my old going out gear in the loft! Is it weird to send my DD to Brownies in a hankerchief backless top I used to wear? They need something for chinese new year and it's a vaguely chinese type pattern, and I'll make her wear it over another top grin

MelodyHarmony Thu 07-Feb-13 12:50:56

I'm totaly with you AQuark. We can hold out together. D-Day is the 13th for me. I forget what FRER stands for, First Response something or other?

My own personal view is that there is little point in testing too early. I've known of plenty of cases where people have had early BFPs only to go on to get ERTD...chemical pregnancy...obviosuly something not qute right so nature just deals with it. Is that early knowledge of any benefit to us? I'd rather just hold out for ERTD and be none the wiser - just my view, but each to their own I suppose.

Anyway, I've been busy hunting down unicorns can you tell I'm putting off housework? I think Gary took hers with her when she graduated. How about this one to keep us company?


What do you all think?

cookielove Thu 07-Feb-13 17:40:49

I def will get back into it next month, just this month i can't be bothered and my knee has been so bad today i almost cried in pain. Its ok to walk but not bend so i can't really dtd anyway.

Ahh lovely Unicorn smile

I am sure all those in your epic 2ww will get the BFP's you all deserve fingers crossed for you all smile

fish88 Thu 07-Feb-13 19:47:36

Sorry to hear you're having a hard time Bear and Cookie. Hopefully your BFPs are just around the corner.

Who is next to POAS?

Bearface Fri 08-Feb-13 00:06:15

Thanks Fish and everyone for your supportive messages sneaky hand squeezes and hugs . I'm cuddling that unicorn like crazy! Sorry for the self-pity. I'm sure everything will work out eventually - it's becoming my motto at the moment. DH is a lot better I think. He hasn't really mentioned it but seems to be okay as well and not brooding, so we just need to sort out a doc's appointment now.

Sure - let's pass that crown/tiara around!

Cookie - your knee sounds bad! Rest up if you can and hope it feels better soon. x

Bearface Fri 08-Feb-13 00:07:59

Oh yeah - I've picked up a sore throat from DH. Just sayin' . . .

crazycatlady82 Fri 08-Feb-13 07:45:58

Hi melody yoi're really rocking that tiara! wink

That is brilliant advice about not testing too early. This is our first month of proper JSing/TTC so I am counting days and workin out when is the soonest I can test - the result being I am totally living up to my namesake and DH is about to say 'no more'! Poor DH!

Oh no bear hope you are feeling better soon! And cookie - we don't want ill JSers


Just curious... What age are we all?

I was 30 in Dec hence the thought we should maybe give the whole TCC a go...


MelodyHarmony Fri 08-Feb-13 10:40:24

sad for Bear and Cookie. How did you hurt your leg Coookie? I hope you both feel better soon.

I'm 37!!! CrazyCat. But I've got three DCs already, had my first at 30.
So when do you think you're due ERTD/POAS?

MelodyHarmony Fri 08-Feb-13 10:42:43

Actually CrazyCat, I've remembered, you're due the same day as me. D'oh, sorry I forgot.

AQuarkTooFar Fri 08-Feb-13 11:21:19

Sorry for my outburst everyone!

Sounds like we are going to fingers crossed have lots of BFPs next week! grin

Melody I Love the unicorn! Super pretty! Oh and Crazycat hello to you I believe we haven't met yet! I am 25.

I havent caved yet and everyone testing around the 12th, 13th & 14th next week you are making me wait! a good thing really

wine here is to a bumper week of poas next week!

AQuarkTooFar Fri 08-Feb-13 11:24:50

Oh, I cant tell if ERTD/BFP are on their way. Massively tender boobage, constant need to pee, increased CM (not had that before at this point in my cycle) occasional cramps (usually much much much stronger by now!) A funny feeling like having a permanent stitch in my side but not quite! Also the runny bum (sorry tmi) I usualy get just before ERTD has not manifested this time! If anything I am more the opposite! hmm

Sorry don't know why I wrote all that down! Just so confused! confused

MelodyHarmony Fri 08-Feb-13 12:52:06

Oh Quark that all made me laugh so much. Lots of possible symptoms for you. I'm not even looking for symptoms this month. Apart from the one time I felt one of my DCs implant, I've never really had symptoms before missed ERTD. And looking for symptoms gets my head in too much of a mess.

You hold out with me. I actually like challenging myself to see how long after missed ERTD I can wait before POAS! But I know that's not everyone's cup of tea!

Sorry to hear cookie and bear are having a rough time of it - and fx for all the BFPs/POAS-ers next week.

Haven't seen DH for more than 10 mins in the last two weeks, while he applies for his own job, luckily 6 days of that was ERTD. Today is CD7, so we ought to be putting on the cape and DTD, but I am so p*d off with him I don't think it's gonna happen (I was also re-applying for my own job, being massively supportive of him, he didn't even bother to ask how my interview went yesterday; starting to question whether we should be TTC if he's going to be this utterly self-centred).
Sorry for the whinge, quark, hope you get the BFP and hugs to everyone. x

MelodyHarmony Fri 08-Feb-13 16:50:25

Oh Humpty that all sounds pretty rotten. How did your interview go? When will you know if you get to keep your job?

MelodyHarmony Fri 08-Feb-13 16:52:40

I need a HOOYA. Beginning to feel very pre-ERTDish but am secretly convincing myself they're early pg symptoms (of which I never get any, every month is the same at this time for me, preg and not preg!)

Bearface Fri 08-Feb-13 17:06:57

Hooya on its way Melody, followed by a nice cup of brew and a whirl of the tiara!

Thanks Humpty - I'm alright really. Just a little bit worried that we mgiht have to go down the assisted conception route which we don't really want to do.

I've seen a job advertised that I'd like to apply for but the start is September (I'm a teecha), so if and when I get an interview might have to think carefully about TTC, but at the same time I don't want to out it on hold. Does anyone know what would happen if you got pg before you started a job? I'm presuming if you had signed the contract then they are legally obliged to still employ you? I realise you wouldn't be entitled to mat pay. Anyone know anything about this? Knowing my luck I'd get the job and immediately then get upduffed!

Bearface Fri 08-Feb-13 17:07:42

* put it on hold, not 'out'

cookielove Fri 08-Feb-13 18:05:53

Hello, hello, hello all .......

My knee was really bad yesterday i was feeling so sorry for myself but today has been so much better although i am still shattered at least today i could walk and bend and sit on the floor which is much easier to work.

I had a ski accident several hundred years back probably when i was 18 ish, and i think it has essentially weakened the joints/muscles when i was heavier it was really bad but i lost 3 stone last year so it was much better, however since my wedding i've been slowly putting the weight back on, about 6lbs since september (naughty cookie)

So i am back on the diet, and back to the exercise, and hopefully back in the bed for the deed.

MelodyHarmony Fri 08-Feb-13 20:22:12

Poor Cookie. Well done on the weight loss last year, three stone is AMAZING. I lost about two stone ten years ago and it made such a difference to my life, my confidence, my outlook. I've never had an accident to damage my knees but they used to ache all the time when I was heavier. Every time I'm heavily pregnant they start aching again. its a good reminder not to let myself put on the weight as fat again.

I've put on 6lbs since Christmas, not over Christmas, I managed to lose weight then confused. But I've been on a bit of a biscuit binge the last few weeks and now I'm six pounds heavier. I know it's not much, but I do feel flabbier and worse for it.

When I was TTC for DC3 I kept eating too much, thinking it doesn't matter, I'll be pregnant soon...but that was a really bad thought pattern for me to get into as it took over a year to get upduffed and I was in a constant weight/food battle with myself!

I hope your knee recovers quickly so you can make the most of your cape sessions.

I don't half waffle on. I'm so sorry.

MelodyHarmony Fri 08-Feb-13 20:37:10

HOOYA received, thanks Bear

A fellow teecha, SNAP, me too. My friend is a teecha as well and was very slightly upduffed at her interview for her very first post last May, she didn't tell them as it was so early and they didnt tell a soul, not even family until the first scan. She got the job. Once she was 12 weeks and had had scan, she told the school and then began teaching in the September. She went on maternity leave at Christmas and had baby in January. She plans to go back part time and she promised them this when she dropped the bombshell.

I know she was incredibly nervous about telling them last summer. And the response she got from the Head wasn't great but they stuck to their end of the offer and still took her on. I think her new colleagues also had a lot to whisper about behind her back which she found hard.

Really not sure if that helps at all, I think not! If you're currently teaching and new job is with same education authority wouldn't that count as continuous service with the same employer? And entitle you to occupational maternity pay?

AndieDisestablishment Fri 08-Feb-13 22:06:54

Hello you 'orrible lot!lol
Rock Congrats!! grin
Bear Don't despair, I've been about since August. Had to cut MN out for a while as I was going crazy.
Sooooo.... Could someone stick me back on the list please? I'll be ducking in and out. Got a job interview on the 19th so life's looking up.

Name: Andie
DC?: DS, DD and 2 DSSs
TTC: August 2012
From: Birmingham

MelodyHarmony Fri 08-Feb-13 22:13:58

Hello Andie...long time, no see. You ok? Good news about the job interview.

I know what you mean about MN making you crazy. It messes with my head too... I tend to be on here a fair bit when the cape is making most of its appearances and then in the 2ww I'm on here in scarily increasing amounts every day. But when ERTD hits, I notify you all then lose interest til it's cape time again!

As you might have gathered from the plethora of pointless posts nice alliteration from me over the last few days, I'm in the 2ww!

Morning all -

It's snowing here . And the postman has just delivered 30 ic's so am trying to restrain myself at the minute !

Rockchick1984 Sat 09-Feb-13 09:19:04

Baby when are you due to test? I got my BFP on CD25 (normally have around a 27-28 day cycle) and it was with an IC and middle of the day urine so probably would have got a positive a day or 2 earlier with FMU smile

Baby I'm waiting for mine to be delivered! (I absolutly didn't pee in a pot this morning so I have some fmu to test later blush )

Not due my BFP / ERTD till the 14th/15th ( normal 29/30 day cycle) so am on cycle day 25 I think .

I have so far resisted testing , but I do have 30 tests .......

Ha ha blondie - I absolutely didn't pee in a pot either


I'm cd29 last 2 cycles were 31days+ app predicting af on 14th, soooooooooo should we? postman just brought mine (I only ordered 10!)

I caved !! BFN - totally expected tho - it is a bit early!!

crazycatlady82 Sat 09-Feb-13 11:12:35

Haha!!! baby I caved too!!! BFN hmm

Used first response early response pregnancy test - apparently it works 6 days early! Hmm...

I think I need a hooya because I was looking at baby carry thingies, pushchairs, went in to jojo maman bebe and, (yes there is an and) looked at child friendly cars - just in case my fiat 500 isn't up to the task! It does have isofix seats though so it really should be fine

Oh dear...

crazycatlady82 Sat 09-Feb-13 11:14:00

Also a pack of 30 x 10iu (whatever that s) tests on order from amazon...

Hat trick! I caved too! But.................I have a really faint positive, not going to trust it for a good few days week probably not even going to tell DH for a few days he never trusts it till we get a few "proper" lines! My ic's were sensitive 10mui ones, doubt anything would have come up otherwise! fingers/toes/legs crossed for us all in the coming week x

crazycatlady82 Sat 09-Feb-13 11:21:47

Yay blondies so excited for you!!!

Fingers crossed it is a definite, then you are onto the grads fred!


Yay blondies so exciting!!

Fx it sticks!!

GaryBuseysTeeth Sat 09-Feb-13 11:48:25

Fingers & toes crossed for you getting a proper bold bfp soon Blondies!!

Hope it's just too early for you baby & crazy (arf! shorting both your names & putting them together basically means I could be talking to anyone on the thread).

crazy, I'd measure your boot space tbh, I have a friend with a VW Beetle (similar shape to yours but much bigger) & she can't fit her buggy & travel cot in the boot so is looking for an upgrade. <hooya> anyhoo!

Rockchick1984 Sat 09-Feb-13 12:28:47

Yay Blondies!!!!!!! Mine started as a faint line and has got progressively stronger (and appeared quicker) with every test yes I am still testing not that I'm still testing... grin

Crazy you will definitely be limited with your choice of pram with a fiat 500, my friend wanted one but couldn't fit any of her 3 prams into the boot so would have had to put part in the boot and part in the back seat.

Yay for blondies and fx and fx for baby and crazy.

bear dunno about jobs/pg - I think since you don't tell everyone until after 12 weeks, you'd be okay? Unless you were showing? Also you'd surely still get stat mat leave - maybe not any extra, but still some. Good luck with the application anyway.
melody I have no idea if/when I get a formal job offer, but I think I got it (it was a ring-fenced job, I was the only applicant, I think they said I've got it, but as usual, boss is useless not clear in what he said: 'look forward to working with you' hmm).Oh, and hooya in case you still need one? Otherwise, wine.
cookie hope knee is still improving, and amazing work on weightloss, go you!
Nursing a hangover today (well, if you can't JS, may as well make the most of having just finishing ERTD and not having JSd since, so knowing I cannot be upduffed. If I were, bean would be pickled by now)

Have a good weekend all. xx

crazycatlady82 Sat 09-Feb-13 13:03:33

Ok ladies, here are my thoughts...

No alcohol so brew between kind of ovulation timeish to ERTD but then the only good thing about ERTD is wine


Re the job if its council/nhs then I think you get all the usual benefits eg (for me it's) 6mths on full pay then 3mths half pay then 3mths on no pay so up to a year if you want

There have been 2 or 3 girls at my work who have become pregnant within a few weeks of getting their new job and then gone off on mat leave.



Rockchick1984 Sat 09-Feb-13 14:10:36

Bear they would still have to employ you if they had offered you the job. Officially they aren't allowed to discriminate against you at interview for being pregnant but obviously they may do so definitely don't mention it before being offered a job. Re mat pay, if you are already pregnant when starting, you will probably get maternity allowance which is the same as SMP but without the 6 weeks at 90% salary. You need to inform your employer by 25 weeks pregnant, any time prior to that is your choice.

MelodyHarmony Sat 09-Feb-13 16:31:10

Well done ThreeBlondies. Massive congratulations. If I wasn't j. The 2ww I'd have a few glasses of wine to celebrate with you.

HOWEVER, <stern teacher face with angry eyes> you, CrazyCat and Baby .... I thought you were all supposed to be holding out with me until AFTER ERTD was late. I turn my back and you're all peeing on sticks left, right and centre. I can't leave you alone for five minutes, can I?!

Sorry Crazy and Baby that you got BFNs though. Too early maybe?

I did expect a telling off Melody can I claim peer pressure? "The others made me Miss!" I'll continue peeing on sticks next week grin

MelodyHarmony Sat 09-Feb-13 16:39:56

Darn it, now you've all made me tempted to test.
I will not.
I will not.
I will not.
I'd rather have ERTD than BFN.
I'd rather have ERTD than BFN.
I'd rather have ERTD than BFN.

And you can put those pom poms away.

MelodyHarmony Sat 09-Feb-13 16:40:54

No excuses ThreeBlondies. Not that you care about being told off now that you're upduffed!

AndieDisestablishment Sat 09-Feb-13 17:06:57

Thanks Melody it's a traineeship for maternity support worker and I REALLY want it so fx.

ThreeBlondies Congrats, hope the line gets darker as the days go on.

Crazy What car manufacturers consider a baby friendly car is often far from the reality. Defo do what Gary said and measure your boot.

I'm truly back in the JSing spirit, we're not even looking at it like we're trying anymore, just having lots of sex to distract from the trauma of job hunting.lol. We had said we were going to stop trying altogether but my cousin brought her 8 week old daughter to visit last week and we got massively broody again.

MelodyHarmony Sat 09-Feb-13 20:37:49

So ThreeBlondies have you had any symptoms? Just interested to know if my highly obsessive scrutiny of every twinge, pimple, queasiness feeling if I really concentrate on it will pay off and turn into something!

No real symptoms this month, had many more last month pre af, all I really noticed were rather sharp twinges over last few days, it's a tricky old business this ttc!

On the car front we had a small 306 gti when we had DD1 had plenty big enough boot for big urban detour 3 wheeler, upgraded to a bigger seat leon but the boot was smaller!

cookielove Sat 09-Feb-13 21:15:40

Hello all, glad to hear about the faint line for you blondies

My lovely sister called she is pregnant - yay for her- sad for me!!

I think i am just at the beginning of my 2ww, but as i said before haven't really had my heart in it this month. GOOD luck for all those testing to soon, or have already tested and testing again soon smile

Knee was better again today, went swimming did 32 lengths of an Olympic sized swimming pool <hi fives any one?> followed by a lovely shopping trip and then cracked my head on the boot door of my car (owwwwwww)

Bearface Sat 09-Feb-13 22:46:47

Blimey Cookie, you do manage to knock youself around a bit! Although, I too regularly bang my head, fall over, trip up, bruise myself and I can't even blame AF so I can talk! Hope the head is better and glad the knee is behaving itself. HUGE HI FIVE for the swimming- that's a very long way to swim! I'd take my hat off to you if I was wearing one.

Threeblondies - how exciting! Hope you get some darker lines in the next few days. When do you think you'll move on to an FRER?

Baby and Crazy - when are you going to test again? You're probably too early atm so don't lose heart.

Hi Andie - good to hear from you! What's new? Thanks for the encouragement BTW. smile Good luck with the job - it sounds really interesting.

Thanks all for the job advice. I'm going to apply anyway and will just have to see what happens. Feel like my life is made up of 'Well, let's just see what happens . . . ' at the moment. I think I like to plan things more than I ever thought!

I have a horrid sore throat because I've got two ulcers on one of my tonsils and I'm a bit snivelly. I've also got about four ulcers in my mouth, so smiling and swallowing both hurt. Speaking isn't great either doesn't stop me banging away at the keyboard on here though. Just hoping that it is a symptom as my immune system is low goes away soon.

I'm waiting til 14th to test, but weirdly this month I don't feel the overwhelming urge to POAS like I have every month before flushing money down the loo Maybe it's because of the job application? Anyway, got our 6 week old nephew round tomorrow, so I'm sure that lack of desire to POAS will change pretty quickly!

MelodyHarmony Sun 10-Feb-13 07:44:48

Cookie that is bitter-sweet news about your sister being upduffed. That sort of news would tip me over the edge - I'd want to be happy for, but feel jealous, then guilt-ridden... Oh a tricky one. I hope you are ok.
High five for all that swimming. I felt the need for chocolate just reading about it!

Hi Bear I think you're right to go for the job, we can't putt our lives on hold just because we might get upduffed.
I'm due on the 13th but I reckon ERTD is well and truly coming (and possibly on the 12th now) my cramps have changed from the twinges to the ones that feel heavy and more painful, a sure sign of AF for me.
Your ulcers sound very painful. Hope you can get some good rest and feel better soon.

Nothing to report here. Other than I really think I'm out this month.
Got a busy day ahead. No more early POAS whilst I'm gone. See you all later.

frogchops Sun 10-Feb-13 08:41:37

Ooh I've de lurked to find a hell if a lot if catching up on here! And now I can't remember who said what, so here goes my ramblings

Bear.... Def go for the job, a bfp will change your life and I'm not sure I'd put that on hold for a job, what will be will be!
Whoever said they weren't thinking about poas this month ...maybe bear?...that's exactly how I was, and if you remember I posted quite a few 'oops I forgot, I'll do it tomorrow' posts.
Also I remember the 'I think I'm out' days as the symptoms were sooo af like, so whoever said that, you're not yet!!
Aaand, whoever said their heart hadn't been in it this month, don't feel like that, my month only had 4 Dtds, only 2 were at the right time and my dates pin it down to a two five minute quickie on a Sunday morning. No faffing, hand standing, etc. so I'm sure the can't be arsed attitude worked for me!!
Rock.... I'm glad I'm not the only testing beyond bfp....I tested at 7 weeks, the bfp came up before the control, lol. Was the last of my ic's though, boooo.

frogchops Sun 10-Feb-13 08:42:56

Oh and threeblondies, congrats! Get over to the grads!

fish88 Sun 10-Feb-13 08:59:06

Congratualtions Blondie grin

Feeling the same as you Bear. We DTD plenty at the right time but I just don't feel like this is my month. Can't explain it, did loads of symptom spotting last month and convinced myself I was upduffed but I'm not hopeful this time around.

MelodyHarmony Sun 10-Feb-13 15:52:43

Thanks for the encouragement Frog. It was me who said that I think I'm out. I've been pregnant before and I just KNOW that these cramps are AF ones. I get the twingy ones in the week before ERTD is due then about two days before due they change to heavy feeling cramps. But if I'm pg they stay twingy.

If I didn't have the heavy cramps this month I would stick my neck on the line and say I was upduffed as I am very bloated and my jeans feel really tight. I had that when pg with DC3, my jeans were tight before AF was due.

But I know the heavy crampy feeling when I feel it, I'm not gonna be tricked by tight jeans truth of the matter is I've been in the biscuit tin too many times in recent weeks

You upduffed lot who keep POAS make me laugh. Do you not believe the first BFP?

cookielove Sun 10-Feb-13 19:18:01

I am suffering today after all that swimming, my shoulders hurt soooo much.

I am really happy for my sister but god I wanted to burst into tears when I heard, dh had some friends round and when I told him he just got it. Came and gave me a big hug in the kitchen smile

cookielove Sun 10-Feb-13 19:22:13

Ahh frog thanks for the pep talk smile twas me who sad my heart wasn't in it.

Bear you should def go for the job.

Andie glad to see your back


MelodyHarmony Sun 10-Feb-13 19:40:19

Glad Mr Cookie was so loving and supportive. Just what you needed Cookie

MelodyHarmony Sun 10-Feb-13 19:43:09

I'm now soooooo bloated and the heavy cramps have eased off, I'm seriously convincing myself that some upduffing might have happened....

Must not get hopes up.
Must not get hopes up.
Must not get hopes up.

cookielove Sun 10-Feb-13 19:52:12

Melody yes he was a good mr cookie, I like your chant smile

frogchops Sun 10-Feb-13 20:13:35

Ahh melody I see you've borrowed the drama crown from bear.... Will be checking back very often every now and then, to see the poas action!!

MelodyHarmony Sun 10-Feb-13 21:36:45

<Checks out drama crown in mirror. Looking good with PJs and dressing gown!>

No POAS action from me until after ERTD is late. You'll have to work really hard to persuade me otherwise. I'd rather have ERTD than see a BFN - I just feel like I've failed an exam if I get a BFN.

My longest record is waiting a week and a half after ERTD date, that was DC1. For DC2 I only managed 2 days but I felt that one implant and I just KNEW. For the last one, DC3, I waited six days. I had a miscarriage before DC1 but I can't remember how long I waited that time. Prob about the same time as DC1 as I had no idea back then about luteal phase. I just thought I was having a longer cycle.

In true drama queen style, I'm now convinced that ERTD will actually show up on Tue/Wed. The 'heavier' cramps are back. So there probably won't be any POAS going on in this house in the near future (not unless Mr Melody gets any funny ideas!)

CoraBear Sun 10-Feb-13 21:51:27

Hi ladies,

Can I join?

Name: CoraBear
Any Dc's: 1 DS, 23 months
TTC since: December 2012.

We've been making a half arsed attempt to conceive since Dec but only decided to make an effort this week. We got married in Jan so I didn't really want to be pregnant on my wedding day. My cycle has extended to 31 days from 28 since Sept, does anyone know if this is normal? I'm 32, is it an age thing? Ovulating now but my husband's away with work. Typical!

just popping in a random hi. those who were my jsers from back in the day we have signs babysomething is getting ready.

hopefully the labour vibes will be BFP vibes for those all waiting

MelodyHarmony Mon 11-Feb-13 12:12:39

Hi Cora. Welcome I hope you enjoy your time here but I hope you don't have to hang around here for too long.
I think the change to your cycle length is fine, that still sounds like it's within normal. I can't remember what 'normal' is but 31 days wouldn't ring any alarm bells for me.
Congratulations on your recent wedding.

Hi Something. I don't think we've met as I've only been on here since the beginning of the year. Congratulations on your imminent arrival.

MelodyHarmony Mon 11-Feb-13 12:18:20

So Baby and CrazyCat... My cycle buddies...How are you doing? Any more POAS? Any sign of ERTD?

I'm dying of waiting!!! I had a roller coaster of a day yesterday, convinced I wasn't then convinced I was, then convinced I wasn't again. I've resolved today to not take any notice of my 'symptoms'. I'm daft, I know I should just POAS. Let me know how you're getting on.

frogchops Mon 11-Feb-13 12:59:14

Melody how many dpo are you?

MelodyHarmony Mon 11-Feb-13 14:48:31

11 DPO. I have a 12 day luteal phase so due ERTD on Wedesday.

frogchops Mon 11-Feb-13 15:03:38

Ahh, the Poas depends on how you'd feel about bfn if it appeared? I know I was always happier getting an early bfn as I knew there was still a chance I was testing too early. Others dread bfn's and would prefer ertd to show up. To me that was the final ' no upduffed' sign so at least I'd had a bit of Poas to quash my Poas obsession!

Bearface Mon 11-Feb-13 15:18:36

I'm the same Frog - would rather a BFN any day. How are you getting on in the upduffed world?

Hi Cora - welcome! <dusts off the spare cape and hands it over ooking all glittering and sparkly-like>

Congrats on your imminent arrival Somethingwitty - I don't think we met on here before but I do recognise your name. Anyway, hope it all goes swimmingly!

I'm still a bit meh about POAS this month. I have lost all urge to do it, but did order some ICs yesterday as I think I need to know as I'm about to apply for the aforementioned job - it could save me a few wasted hours if I get a BFP!! grin

notsoold Mon 11-Feb-13 15:30:39

Congrats something....I hope everything goes well!!! Fx for you!

Bear and Frog I rather have a ertd and be done with it....otherwise I just keep wishing the bfns to turn positive somehow....

frogchops Mon 11-Feb-13 16:31:37

It's funny how everyone has very different preferences isn't it. I just always thought, even if its bfn, it could be a slow show-er, lol..crazy? Very probably.
Bear will remember I loved a bit of drama, so I used to start the dramatics at errr 9 dpo, and keeping Poas til ertd turned up!
Strangely I fell off the Poas obsession wagon in my bfp month, I just thought 'meh, I'll do it later, and then, ohh ill use fmu tomorrow, and then I'd forget. I first Poas at 12dpo and it was bfn, although I kept holding it up to the brightest we have in the house light and willing a line to appear. Then the next day, almost out of boredom blush as DP was out, at 13dpo I did another ic and the line, again was non existent but I was sure I could see something, it really was questionable whether I'd imagined it.
Cracking open the posh frer gave me a massive big bfp straight away.... One that I'm sure I'd have had days earlier if I'd have used it.
Up duffed world is going ok thanks bear....although am a complete wreck with worry and probably will be until 12 wks. Am 8+2 today. I've had no symptoms whatsoever, apart from sore boobs early on. :-/
Capes on girls, saddle up and p sticks at the ready!

MelodyHarmony Mon 11-Feb-13 16:46:15

I'm definitely in the prefer ERTD to a BFN camp. BFNs make me feel so depressed, like I've failed. Maybe it's just my past experiences that cloud it. The only times I've had BFNs are the months when ERTD had appeared the same or the next day. The times I've had BFPs have all been after ERTD was late. And I've had a pretty strong suspicion that I was upduffed so the risk of 'failure' (as I perceive it) was slim.

MelodyHarmony Mon 11-Feb-13 16:46:52

So Bear if you were to POAS this month, when would it be?

Rockchick1984 Mon 11-Feb-13 16:54:51

Just occurred to me - BFP was the month we started using conceive plus lube every time we DTD (even if not around ovulation) so I've been having a google - seems loads of people got upduffed super quickly after using it! I didn't even make the mental connection, but I wonder if it did make a difference or if this would have been our month anyway.

I got a tube of it from amazon that came with some IC's and was about £18, just thought I should share in case it helps anyone else smile

MrsBri Mon 11-Feb-13 18:12:22

Rock...same here re CP. We used it all month and this, plus upping our game, led to BFP the first month of using it.

crazycatlady82 Mon 11-Feb-13 18:34:44

Oh no! So thick! What's CP?


MrsBri Mon 11-Feb-13 18:41:35

Conceive Plus!

AndieDisestablishment Mon 11-Feb-13 18:42:19

adds Conceive Plus to shopping list

I'd rather have ERTD than BFN too, can't bare waiting for a line that never appears.
Who's peeing this week? I've no idea where I am in terms of ov, think it was Saturday given the one sided cramping but I've stopped thinking about it so much. I'm due ERTD on 24th.

Bearface Mon 11-Feb-13 19:26:31

OOO I think I definitely deserve the drama crown Frog! I have not let you down!

So, after all that I thought I'd maybe better POAS because I thought there's no point in filling out a job application form if I'm upduffed, so thought I'd better go out and get one. The only ones they had were FRER at my local chemist so got 2. Well, I got a BFN sad but I was checking back through my dates and I might only be 8dpo as I think I ov'd somewhere between 1st and 3rd. Pretty sure it was the 3rd as contraband said so So I'm thinking is it all a bit early for me to be testing? Or am I out of the game? ERTD is due on 14th/15th ish. What do you guys think? Still filling in the application form and am now just confused!

<hurries off to sneak some conceive plus into the shopping basket>

GaryBuseysTeeth Mon 11-Feb-13 19:41:14

8dpo is early Bearface, I'd test again tomorrow....if you're upduffed you'd get a smidge of a line (hopefully). Stroke the unicorn a bit, it may calm your inner dramacrown wearing ways!

Andie, if they could invent a stick which said 'Not pg, but your ertd will come along shortly' that would be amazing

Re. Conceive plus...I know I'm the exception because it took 9 funking months to get my first bfp, but I wasn't using conceive plus on either cycle 9 or 10 (both my bfp cycles), just good ol fashion spit blush

frogchops Mon 11-Feb-13 19:48:27

Bear! Don't start your posts with capital letters , I nearly collapsed. I swear my heart is racing!
Massive well done on excellent use of the crown!!
No you are definitely not out, I have every faith and everything crossed!! Just because frers can detect 6 days early doesn't mean it will!! Now you've had a poas moment, don't use your other one for 2/3 days. Did u say uve ordered ic's?? Maybe wait til they arrive if they are predicted soon??

MotherOfCleo Mon 11-Feb-13 19:54:39

I used CP every single time last month rock bri and I didnt get my bfp sad actually the times I didnt use CP I was pretty dry sorry tmi! so dont think I was very fertile last month. I'm only using it for quickies an perhaps a valentines marathon this month wink

Bearface Mon 11-Feb-13 20:02:34

grin Frog - so all I need to do to produce drama for you is use CAPS?!!! Arf! won't be using that technique at all in the future <evil grin>

Yes, ICs not due to arrive until at least the 14th. Thanks for the reassurance Gary and Frog - am stroking the fur off poor lil' Uni the Unicorn! (Do you remember Uni from 'Dungeons and Dragons'?) It does feel a bit early because in theory I may have only just had implantation because I read it takes place about 7-10 dpo. I am getting some twinges today, but then again coud be ERTD. Gah! <shuffles off to the SS cave clutching Uni>

<pops head back in> I've always avoided spit because of the presumed 'killing of the swimmers', but I don't think it's true otherwise there woud be a few less BFPs on this fred! blush

MelodyHarmony Mon 11-Feb-13 20:10:10

Too early Bear, too early. Don't do this to yourself. BFNs are too painful.
If it were me, I'd fill out the application and worry about the fall out later.

I cannot see DH stretching to £18 to encourage the conception of a fourth baby that he would love to bits but isn't sure we'd cope with and worries we can't afford! I'll have to be like Gary and stick with good ol spit! I'm lucky with bucket loads of EWCM though I could sell it to make money to feed fourth child

frogchops Mon 11-Feb-13 20:26:49

Bear, save yourself and don't test til ic's arrive on the 14th. I remember uni, Who'da thought he'd be such a significant part of our lives! Stroke him stroke him.

Bearface Mon 11-Feb-13 20:39:30

Oh, I'm not going to test again for a while now. Luckily(!) I'm working until Thurs this week so will be very busy and won't be abe to think about it, so will only test again if ERTD hasn't appeared later in week. I only really honestly hand-on-my-heart tested because of the app form - I wouldn't have bothered otherwise, so I don't think it'll be a problem waiting until Thurs or Fri.

Gross Melody - in a funny way - you on the streets in your Victorian shawl selling buckets of EWCM to passers-by and women queuing up!! Bleugh! grin

Bearface Mon 11-Feb-13 20:43:38

Oh yes, and saw my six week old nephew at the weekend, but didn't have a meltdown after, so feeling like I have reached a new place on the TTC mountain at the moment! Proud of self.

I am having a meh day.
A meh im fed up of this TTC lark . It's never going to happen . Why was it do easy with dd and now nothing . Meh it's been 8 long months .

I haven't tested again . I think seeing a bfn might tip me over the edge!!

Thursday will be my next day to test if ERTD hasn't showed up before then .

< also adds CP to shopping basket>

Bearface Mon 11-Feb-13 20:58:43

Don't give up Baby - everyone has up and down days when TTC, no one more so than me! Sometimes you just have to ride out the meh and think about something else for a bit (that's what I do) and then come back to it with renewed enthusiasm. I've been going at this for such a looooooong time that it's boring even for me. I first came off the pill in August 2011, so you can imagine how I feel on some days (but there's been lots of to-ing and fro-ing and breaks here and there until we started TTC in earnest in July 2012). I'm not trying to dismiss your feelings- just saying, I know how you feel and how frustrating it is. Hang in there baby. <squeezes hand and passes over Uni for a cuddle and a stroke>

Hi all, sorry to see there's been no more bfp's this weekend, although I'll give you all to the end of the week (as that's when I probably should have waited till!) Got a nice strong line this morning so feels more real, told DH, but we haven't mentioned it all day perhaps I should check he heard me and wasn't still asleep!

Baby I was really really fed up last month, wanted to be upduffed more than anything had symptoms and ended up with nothing but loads of bfn's, tried to relax this month and just dtd as much as possible, and enjoy it.

CoraBear Mon 11-Feb-13 21:43:30

Ooooh a cape - fancy.

I had a positive pregnancy test the day I got ERTD last month. I went from shock to anger in the space of two and a half hours. I did a google search and apparently it's to do with hormones, I wish they warned you about it on the instructions. Not going to be pregnant this month, I've missed the window.

Melody I'd quite like to see a Dragons Den demo where you try to sell your EWCM grin

Well now I know why I was so meh yesterday - ERTD has got me this morning .

Oh well .

AQuarkTooFar Tue 12-Feb-13 14:00:19

I don't want to write this because as soon as do the witch will probably turn up but.............I am two days late. Tested with a FRER on Sunday pm and then again on Monday with FMU and BFNs!
Does a Frer ever not work do you think? Or am I clutching at straws?

Hi Cora, welcome. Yay for your BFP threeblondies!

Everyone else hang in there! I think if ERTD doesn't show I will try anothr test on Thurs.

frogchops Tue 12-Feb-13 14:13:05

Quark did u test last night? Sometimes people don't get on with frers and get better results with others. If you're due a bfp the hormones will be shooting up day by day so maye just wait til tomorrow am an try again?

AQuarkTooFar Tue 12-Feb-13 14:59:28

Hey frog how you doing? The last time I tested was yesterday morning. I am not the most regular so think I will wait till thurs as I feel bad already wasting two tests!

frogchops Tue 12-Feb-13 19:15:36

Quark, I'll be back!! ;)

And I'm fine thanks, just waiting for someone to tell me I've outstayed my welcome on this thread!

CoraBear Tue 12-Feb-13 20:30:54

what's frers?

AQuarkTooFar Tue 12-Feb-13 20:38:10

A first response early response prego test cora.

fish88 Tue 12-Feb-13 20:39:50

Just to add my thoughts a bit late in the game I think I would prefer to get a BFN than ERTD. Last month I didn't test but was still half convinced I was upduffed beacuse ERTD was different and lighert than usual. I think seeing a BFN would have confirmed it for me. This month I am going to POAS 1 day before ERTD is due (18th Feb). Currently 7DPO, got a very busy week so the TWW isn't as painful as last time. Hopefully some of you ladies who are further in your cycle than me will get some BFPs in the next couple of days to keep me going through the weekend grin

AndieDisestablishment Tue 12-Feb-13 20:45:03

Baby Sorry to hear about the witch. Hope she doesn't stay long.

Quark It is entirely possible to get false negatives and different women process the hormones at different rates, done women don't show BFPs until a few weeks in when the hormones are blindingly apparent. Here's hoping.

Cora FRER = First Response Early Result (hope that's right), basically a test that picks up hormones early.

I'm having a weird week. Nipples are killing me, I'm bloated and yesterday my boobs had a weird achey/tingly feeling like when my milk came in before (hopefully those with DCs know the feeling I mean?!) anyway, ERTD not due til 24th so it's too early for any if this nonsense. I'll carry on ignoring it and get back to my book....

MelodyHarmony Tue 12-Feb-13 21:44:08

Meh, meh and triple meh. The hormones have had me bad for the last 24 hours. I've been in a right state. Crying at everything, clumsy, panicky, angry, depressed... the list goes on. I feel a bit better now so that's good but the down side is that it means ERTD is just around the corner.

Eeeeew the visions of me selling EWCM from a bucket on street corners and on Dragons' Den... Sorry. I really don't know what I was thinking when I typed all that!

Anyway. I'm probably going to lie low now. I've been on here too much in recent days and it's not helped my obsessive mind, DH is getting fed up of seeing me behind my phone all the time, the house is a tip and I need to see some real people (you know what I mean!) No ERTD yet but I know I'm out from my mood and the change in my cramps.

All the best for my cycle buddies who are due to poas this week. Here's hoping we get at least one Valentinesi BFP.

M x

shaggers keep shagging you will get there!

baby henry john lee was born 12/2/13 at 2.33pm via emergancy c-section weighig a tiny 5lb 8oz x

crazycatlady82 Wed 13-Feb-13 06:00:13

Hi girls!

melody hope you are ok

I'm out this month ERTD arrived this morning - boo!

Maybe next month smile


MotherOfCleo Wed 13-Feb-13 07:26:18

congrats something hope the little man is doing ok and you're alright too.

Rockchick1984 Wed 13-Feb-13 08:42:04

Andie that's how my boobs have felt since about 6 DPO, certainly before I could test. I just didn't even associate it as being upduffed!!!

AndieDisestablishment Wed 13-Feb-13 09:46:05

Rock Don't tell me that, I'll get unfeasably hopeful.l

AndieDisestablishment Wed 13-Feb-13 09:47:42

OMG, I hate my thumbs!!

Something Congrats to you. thanks

Crazy Sorry ERTD showed up. Get your cape ironed for when she buggers off.

Bearface Wed 13-Feb-13 17:39:53

That's wonderful Something - massive congratuations! Hope it all carries on going well for you. thanks

Crazy - sorry about ERTD. sad

I think my ERTD is on its way - due tomorrow or Friday. I have the faintest of twinges in my lady pants area why can it be the faintest of lines?

Hoping everyone is well and got my fingers crossed for all those testing soon.

DH and I went to see some comedy in London last night and didn't get home until very late, then had to get up for work today, so feeling less than spritely today. Yawn. It wasn't our fault it started late, so finished late.

cookielove Wed 13-Feb-13 18:54:33

Hello all, so sorry to hear that some of you have been caught by the ERTD sadness

Not much to report from my neck of the woods, just chugging along smile

Hope the BFP fairy comes to find us soon.

CoraBear Wed 13-Feb-13 21:54:15

Congratulations Something.

Sorry about ERTD Crazy

I know in my brain that I am not pregnant, however I have spent the day symptom spotting. At least it makes the hours pass. I think it's made me realise how much I really want to get pregnant again (watching OBEM isn't helping either).

Damn my stupid husband for being away this week!

AQuarkTooFar Thu 14-Feb-13 08:09:30

Congrats something hope you are both doing well!

Sorry about ERTD crazy.

3 days late here. Did a CBD with fmu this morning - BFN sad hmm

Going away for weekend till late sun night. Will be with friends so won't be able to test. If the evil witch hasn't appeared by mon I will test again. Hate this. Now have to trail supplies away with me just in case ERTD appears.

notsoold Thu 14-Feb-13 13:12:37



I did the test twice and took fotograph to ensure and there it is....
Hope and pray it sticks

notso, hoping and praying with you. My fingers and toes are tightly crossed for you.

GaryBuseysTeeth Thu 14-Feb-13 13:39:31

notso!!! So excited (and terrified) for you!
Really hope you get your sticky one this time around.
<small congrats>
If you fancy it, the pg after mc thread is fab for support (and loads of 'noobs' have just joined, so you'll be in good company). x

AndieDisestablishment Thu 14-Feb-13 14:28:58

Congrats notso Sending you sticky vibes.

notsoold Thu 14-Feb-13 14:58:01


As it is early days may I stay here??? Do not feel like moving places (or threads) yet??? pretty please???

Besides I am not telling DH yet. My own little secret ( and yours as well)

Thanks for your patience!!

Congrats notso I'm in limbo land too not really sure which fred I should be posting on so I'm lurking everywhere blush

AQuarkTooFar Thu 14-Feb-13 15:52:42

Congrats notso!

Bearface Thu 14-Feb-13 16:19:00

Hurrah! Yayyyy Notso! Really hope this one works out for you. Gosh, 2013 really is turning into a BFP bonanza!

frogchops Thu 14-Feb-13 16:22:59

Hooray notso!!
Quark, fx the bfp is being shy!!

Bearface Thu 14-Feb-13 16:31:46

I'm out again. ERTD is just hovering, waiting to come out. Oh joy. I know we didn't manage to do it much this month but we definitely did it at the right times. So frustrating. Grrrrrrr.

Still, other people are having success so maybe one day it will be me.

Bearface Thu 14-Feb-13 16:37:31

Just ordered my CP lube. wink

Bearface Thu 14-Feb-13 16:48:29

Notso - how far gone are you? Do you know? When do you plan on telling DH? Oooo not being a what-was-it-Belle-called-it naughty bear? or anything but it would be lovely to tell him today being Valentine's day and everything!

AQuarkTooFar Thu 14-Feb-13 18:15:35

ERTD has just got me here. Have never really counted my cycle days until I started ttc but since oct I have had a 34, 29, 30 and a 33 day cycle. So one positive is that I now know I have a slightly irregular cycle and might not waste so many tests next time.

Sorry to hear about your ERTD too Bear.

Rockchick1984 Thu 14-Feb-13 19:05:07

Yay Notso!!!! I'm still loitering between here and the grad's thread, not quite confident enough to leave here yet - the other thread is very friendly though (like this one but with bumps)

Sorry about ERTD Bear and Quark sad Bear hopefully the CP will work it's magic, we used it every time we DTD and kept at it at least every other day the whole month rather than just fizzling out once I thought I'd ovulated like I'd done every other month smile

fish88 Thu 14-Feb-13 19:31:51

Congratualtions Notso! How long are you planning on keeping your little secret? I think I would find it hard to restrain myself from running down the street shouting the news, never mind OH! You must have great self-control. grin

notsoold Thu 14-Feb-13 20:38:20

Gary....I remember some of the gals there as I have been o this thread for so llllooooonnnggg!!!

Blondies....difficult to know isn't it??? How many weeks are you???Please do remind me...

Rocks...loitering is the word!!!

Bear...naughty bear™!!!! I trademarked for you! I didn't tell dh and shall not do so for a while longer ( the plan was not to say anything until 12 scan...but can I keep quiet???) Sorry for ertd!!! However well done on CP.

Quark sorry for ertd.....

notsoold Thu 14-Feb-13 20:46:12

Fish as I said to bear I had planned not to say anything for as long as possible. The last two times besides the loss of the pregnancies I also had to deal with dh, that mourns them so deeply... And that was even more stress. However I don't know what the symptoms will ( hopefully ) be...as for getting fatter dh is in another world...and I am not slim smile
But valentines night without saying anything was easy as our teenager ds talks for Britain.

Thanks everyone for your congratulations.... Fx for us all xxx

notsoold Thu 14-Feb-13 21:17:19

Bear I am 4+5...so really early days...smile

notso That's about the same as me I'm 5 weeks tomorrow by lmp, but probably only 4+3 by when I think I ov'd (although by that got a bfp 10dpo!) so who really knows! smile

Sorry to tell u ladies but time is going even slower than in the 2ww!

Rockchick1984 Fri 15-Feb-13 12:11:34

Blondies I'm 5 weeks today - got my BFP ridiculously early which is why I couldn't quite believe it! Kept testing but now the 2 lines appear virtually at the same time so am trying to not test any more smile

Bearface Fri 15-Feb-13 13:02:51

I have everything crossed for you, Notso and I can see why you wouldn't want to tell DH with your previous experiences. Bless you and your little bean. x

Loiter away Rock!

I think we may have had a leetle breakthrough. Dh came home yesterday and said that he thinks he needs to get something done to the varicose vein in his left testicle. He's always had it and saw docs about it when he was much younger and they said it would be fine and nothing needed to be done. Bless him, he's been doing research and found out that it can affect your sperm production and motility because it prevents the sperm from being kept cool. (Not sure exactly why - article didn't explain that.) Apparently it's a really common cause of male infertility that's just not very well known. So he's got a doctor's app on Tues and he's going to mention it then. He might have to have it clipped, or a stent put in or removed - ouch! - and he said that he was willing to go through the pain if it got us a baby. Phew - feeling quite overcome at how much I love him for being willing to possibly go through surgery for us. blush

It would all make sense though, as his results came back from the SA as his sperm having borderline low motility.

Anyway, that's what I've found out. Busy doing my application form and drinking too much coffee and planning weekend pub trips while ERTD is here. There has to be some advantages, no? grin Hope everyone is well and HAPPY FRIDAY!

Bearface Fri 15-Feb-13 13:06:05

Just re-read my message and can't believe all my 'and then', 'and then' - my inner pedant is cringeing. I knOW most people don't care, but I teach English FFS! Oh and I have a problem with acronyms too. Don't worry; I'm seeking help from a psychiatrist in Loserville.

Bearface Fri 15-Feb-13 13:07:54

Forgot to say - thanks for the TM Notso - I will use it well!

notsoold Fri 15-Feb-13 14:34:15

Bear impressed with your dh as even as a woman the though of your dh procedure sounds painful...double ouch!!!
Rock and blondies glad you are here!!!

Hooya Sat 16-Feb-13 08:36:35

<sneaks back in, pats unicorn, instructs it to send more JSers to the grads thread>

notso congratulations grin <does quiet but still excitable bfp happydance> and all the very best of luck! Will really be thinking of you!

bear lovely about your dp, I have everything crossed things work out for you soon!

Rock and blondies I'm with you, can't believe that with ttc you wait and wait, then you get upduffed... and start waiting again!

Quark sorry about ERTD and Melody sorry you think it's coming though I am still hopeful for you based on no science whatsoever

Andie good for you on the proper JSing and hope it's a nice distraction from the job hunting!

cookie yay and boo re your sister, it's such an awful feeling when others get pg and you want to be 100% happy but just can't quite...

Hello to Fish, Cora Cleo crazy and Humpty and others I've probably missed, I don't think I've met any of you, I miss this thread!

Love reading that I'm not the only one who kept peeing on sticks after my bfp! I have 6 of the things in the bathroom cabinet blush however I have now substituted vomming for the reassurance of pee sticks! My DP is away this week and every call starts with me saying "spewed again, still upduffed!"

I will start lurking here more mostly to keep an eye on notso if no-one objects; we're all rooting for you lovely lady!

notsoold Sat 16-Feb-13 11:47:33

Hooya...thanks girl!!! When I feel safer I will come and join you in the ladies with a bump thread!! smilethanks for your support!!!
It is not going to be easy not tell dh for a while....and I poas this morning again...darker line within the right time....
Companies are making money on my need to peed on something.... smile
Have a good weekend people

I peed on another sensitive ic this morning notso! very dark line came up straight away, ordered 10, still have 5! I've told my dh but haven't "spoke" about due dates etc, after things didn't work out twice last year think we probably won't till after scan, don't know if I'll get offered an early one because of mmc, will see how I feel at mw appointment at 8 wks and may ask beg smile

notsoold Sat 16-Feb-13 13:14:54

Blondies....you see??? Someone somewhere worked out the amazing need we have to poas!!! Lol

I gave up my ic ( sensitives ones) as even now nothing shows on them.... I have done the superdrug ones and B&M ones all saying positive....might break into my digital next Saturday ( would be 6+0 then)....
I wondered about the early scan but will not phone them yet ....( don't want to jinx anything)....

Know what you mean about jinxing it, went wrong last time as soon as I had picked up notes from doc's and made mw app, I will be holding off as long as poss this time? x

cookielove Sat 16-Feb-13 19:34:19

Hello all <waves manically>

BFP's congratulations to notso flowers

Bear your DH, sounds so lovely smile

I was counting myself out this month, due to the little funk i was in last month, however if ERTD, is due to tomorrow so we shall see. I usually have a 25-27 cycle length. But i had extra long one last month, so i think i shall class that as a one off and assume my period will arrive in the next three days, assuming i am not up duffed.

Any who happy shagging all smile

Redshoes56 Sat 16-Feb-13 21:28:15

Will you lovely ladies let me back in after going rogue?! I really took seriously the whole "taking time off from TTC" thing. Back with a vengeance though! I see I have many, many pages of posts to catch up on <starting reading>....

Zumbasmyfave Sat 16-Feb-13 22:07:50

Hi everyone smile
Been admiring you all from a far for a few months but only just taken the plunge to register!

TTC: Since dec 2012 but no AF yet & 2 BFN
Age: 27

Redshoes56 Sun 17-Feb-13 08:17:55

I think I am caught up! Congrats on the bfps notso, rock and blondies! Fingers crossed for smooth sailing for all of you. And welcome zumbas and everyone else I don't know yet.

I think prime time is this weekend so getting in lots of action. I leave Monday for a few days biz trip in Boston so I need to store up all the spermies like some pervy squirrel in case I ov while away. grin

bear, cookie -- this HAS to be our thread....

TTC:About 9 months
Age: 33

notsoold Sun 17-Feb-13 09:20:16

Redshoes....welcome back my lovely!!!

Morning everybody and...

cookielove Sun 17-Feb-13 09:55:17

Redshoes - fingers crossed you are right?

Bearface Sun 17-Feb-13 10:04:50

Hello Red <waves manically> I've been wondering how you are. Glad you are well. It's lovely to hear from you and your squirrelly ways! I do hope you're right about the thread . . .

Hi Zumba - nice to meet you.

Good luck Cookie!

Zumbasmyfave Sun 17-Feb-13 10:31:51

Morning! Nice to meet you too red notso and bear!
Congrats to notso!

Anyone work shifts? Both me and my DH do.. Tends to get in the way of JSing!

red what is pervy squirrel? I am intrigued!


Redshoes56 Sun 17-Feb-13 17:40:35

Like a squirrel stores nuts in its cheeks, I will store something...else, somewhere...else. Gee, I just sound gross, forget perverted grin

DH and I both work 9ish to 5ish but we still have a hard time finding the time, you know? We are just tired all the time from work (and we want to introduce a kid into the mix?). Weekends are my favorite - lots of "afternoon delight - so I am glad when the calendar falls in my favor and ovulation isn't looming on like, a Wednesday evening.

One of my best girlfriends had her baby this weekend. We are off to the hospital today to see them, and their little daughter. I am curious to see how DH will react to being around all those babies! He'll either come out screaming or ready for JSing....

Bearface Sun 17-Feb-13 17:47:53

Good luck with the hospital visit Red! Hope you have a good time and that your friend is well.

I'm having a horrible ERTD with mahoosive cramps and having to change every couple of hours because of heavy flow (TMI - sorry!) so I am going to the pub to indulge in a bit of vino. Y'know I can take BFNs just and I can take periods, but the pain is just an extra slap in the face from Mother Ntaure. In fact, I reckon Mother Nature is a man masquerading as a woman - it just hurts too bloody much! So I HAVE to go to the pub just to dull the pain.

Hope everyone else has their capes flying in the breeze and are squirrelling away all those extra nuts - arf! blush grin

fish88 Sun 17-Feb-13 19:41:16

I work in a school so regular hours but OH works shift. 2 days a week we don't see each other at all.

I have resisted POAS for a very long time so going to test in the morning (CD30) grin

Zumbasmyfave Sun 17-Feb-13 21:23:58

Good luck fish

I've only done a couple of POASs but Gonna resist the urge for a while.. I don't think it's doing me much good stressing!

LOL about the squirrel and it's nuts :-o Have a feeling I may be looking that up for the bottom draw!

Yeah I know the feeling being so tired after work. DH and I are like passing ships in the night sometimes so gotta grab every moment- phew.. blush

CoraBear Sun 17-Feb-13 22:08:20

I feel your pain about ships that pass in the night, DP is away a lot with work and it makes the baby making difficult when I'm home alone. I've convinced myself I'm having pregnancy symptoms (I'm not pregnant and I'm not wasting my clearblue digital on a wild goose chase). I think we need reusable placebo sticks we can pee on over and over again that say "Better luck next time" or "Step away from the sticks lady". A new MN business venture?

Rockchick1984 Sun 17-Feb-13 22:42:02

Cora like a magic 8 ball???? grin

Evenin' all! Been busy like a bee the last few days. Congrats to all the newly BFP'd ladies, and hoping everyone has had capes on/nuts in cheeks/managed to step away from peeing on anything.

Managed to DTD on 2 days before, ov day and last night (ov +1), so fx for me. Now to lure Mr Humpty into bed for another go. x

CoraBear Sun 17-Feb-13 23:13:21

Exactly! A polite yet non-commital way to appease the peeing on sticks instincts that we have post ovulation. Not as big as a magic 8 ball though - think of the mess grin

Zumbasmyfave Mon 18-Feb-13 06:48:49

cora, rock.. I think it's one for the Dragons den!

Humpty see thread about 1 liners to get ur dp to dtd :-D oh the hilarity


AndieDisestablishment Mon 18-Feb-13 08:25:06

Welcome back Red glad to see your cape's back on.
Hi Zumba waves My DP works contracts so is either at home allllll the time or away/working all week. So it's either loads of JSing or complete drought. I've got an interview/assessment tomorrow for a job involving shifts so I'm hoping I get my BFP this month or I'll never get pupped up.l

fish88 Mon 18-Feb-13 10:22:46

BFN this morning sad, although no ERTD or cramping yet so will test again in a few days if no sign. This was my first negative test so feeling a bit glum.

Zumbasmyfave Mon 18-Feb-13 19:25:29

Aaaw sorry fish better luck next time. Keep on truckin' (or something like that!)

Hi Andie! Good luck for the interview! I'm sure you'll be able to get some JSing in in the mean time!


cookielove Mon 18-Feb-13 22:14:35

Bfn this morning sad

And now I am ill!!

Aw, fish and cookie bad luck lovelies. Good luck Andie for your interview/assessment!

fish88 Tue 19-Feb-13 13:26:14

Sorry for the wallowing yesterday, forgot to say good luck Andie smile

frogchops Tue 19-Feb-13 13:31:18

Cookie and fish, you're not out yet!! Fx!

AndieDisestablishment Tue 19-Feb-13 15:02:45

Sorry for the BFNs Cookie and Fish any signs of ERTD? Cling to hope it was a duff test.lol

Thanks for the luck ladies, I think it went well, find out tomorrow if I'm through to the next stage.

How is everyone?

cookielove Tue 19-Feb-13 16:03:09

Hello all. Well I am off work which is shocking for me as I am never off, well for sickness anyway smile

I didn't test today, but no ertd. I will hold out to fri to test again if no ertd appears.

Andie how'd it go?

fish88 Tue 19-Feb-13 17:28:25

No sign of ERTD, will test again tomorrow as that will be DPO15. Hormones should be showing up by then if upduffed surely?

Keeping FX for you Andie

Hope you feel better soon Cookie thanks

cookielove Tue 19-Feb-13 18:20:47

fish fingers crossed for you!!

I've mainly been feeling exhausted with a incredibly sore throat but i am feeling much better today, it helps when i don't do much e.g lying on the sofa watching telly.

fish88 Tue 19-Feb-13 18:28:17

Haha, I read that as "fish fingers" crossed at first. Glad you're starting to feel better.

cookielove Tue 19-Feb-13 22:29:09


fish88 Wed 20-Feb-13 08:26:52

Another BFN for me this morning so I am going to declare myself out for the month. Just waiting for ERTD to start so we can get on with the next cycle.

cookielove Wed 20-Feb-13 10:22:39

Fish sad

Zumbasmyfave Wed 20-Feb-13 11:19:35

sorry fish :-(

notsoold Wed 20-Feb-13 12:43:41

Sorry fish!

Cookie hope you are feeling better!

Hi everybodysmile

cookielove Wed 20-Feb-13 13:12:45

I'm stuck at home bored out of mind confused

I think the problem with this kind of illness (not that i know whats wrong with me) is that over all i don't feel sick just getting up and moving makes me feel exhausted, so really i am just sitting on my arse trying to build up my energy, i've been all over the internet watched so many films, and almost completely wiped out my pre recorded stuff on sky.

Also being at home means i am near my ic's, work usually distracts me from testing.

The only good thing is that i have lost 6lb's grin, but now my appetite is back i can't see that lasting sad

My pinterest board is looking nice and full though, and i've thought of lots of things to do when i am better and if i every do get my BFP.

Have i said yet i am bored!!

fish88 Wed 20-Feb-13 14:22:04

Hi Cookie, I had a similar illness not long ago, was fine when I was sat/lying down but felt dizzy and nauseous every time I moved. Never found out what it was but felt better after a week. Wondered if it was a mild flu?

Had an odd thing happen this morning and wondered if anyone had any advice...

POAS this morning and got BFN, went back to bed for a bit. When I went up for a shower I realised test was still on bathroom cabinet and went to throw it out. Noticed this time that there was a VERY faint second pink line. This was a couple of hours after I first tested. Do all tests eventually show a positive result if left long enough? I know I'm probably clutching at straws but no sign of ERTD yet (2 days late so far). Anyone experienced anything similar?

Rockchick1984 Wed 20-Feb-13 14:34:56

Fish it could be an evaporation line or it could be a teeny bit of HCG in your urine - only way to tell is to test again in a day or 2 smile

cookielove Wed 20-Feb-13 14:36:38

Yes other people have said maybe a mild flu, i think i will be going back to work tomorrow as i am eating better and seem to have got some energy back!!

I have heard of that happening to others, how much later did you look at the test? Cause if it was longer than 10 minutes which i would have thought it would be then, then i think they say you can't depend on those results, so the only think you can do is retest, now would you retest now, or wait for tomorrows fmu?

fish88 Wed 20-Feb-13 15:33:34

It was 2/3 hours later but is still there now. The test I used was only a cheapy and it hasn't got a cut off time in the instructions but I know most others are ten minutes. I also thought evaporation line but it is slightly pink rather than grey.

I have agreed to only test when my OH is around and he is at work until late tonight so will wait until tomorrow morning and test then if still no ERTD.

notsoold Wed 20-Feb-13 15:38:40

Fish...fx for you.....
If initially showed as negative, could you wait for like 2 days before retesting?? ( I couldn't) fx....xxx

cookielove Wed 20-Feb-13 15:39:06

That sounds like a good plan, wow your good testing when your OH is around, i don't think i have ever even let Dh know i am testing blush mainly cause he thinks it's a waste of money, which i guess it is, not that i'll ever admit that to him, or how much i've spent on it grin

Well fx that they pink line appears tomorrow to smile

I don't mean to be mean, just don't want you to get your hopes up and then crushed again tomorrow if that makes sense?

fish88 Wed 20-Feb-13 16:00:23

Yeah, I think deep down I know that I'm not pergnant and just having an odd cycle.

I like the idea of my OH finding out at the same time as me and it stops me from peeing on everything that stays still as he would think I was crazy if I tested constantly! hmm

cookielove Wed 20-Feb-13 16:21:10

No no, i don't want you to loose all hope after all a line is a line!!! Oh no i feel bad now!!

Its a lovely idea about your OH finding out at the same time, my dh i think won't actually think its real till there is a baby in his arms hmm

fish88 Wed 20-Feb-13 16:48:58

Don't worry, it wasn't anything you said! Just think that two BFNs should tell me all I need to know. It is only our 2 cycle of TTC so would have been surprised if it happened this quickly.

OH is as broody as me so very excited about the whole thing. I think he will be terrified though by the time due date comes around.

cookielove Wed 20-Feb-13 16:55:04

Phew smile

I think the problem is my dh is useless grin

cookielove Wed 20-Feb-13 16:58:02

Your OH, sounds lovely smile

frogchops Wed 20-Feb-13 17:09:44

Fx for fishy!!! This very thing happened to me, wait a day or two if you can. Line was soooo faint when it did appear tho. Had to get more expensive test to confirm.

AndieDisestablishment Wed 20-Feb-13 17:10:52

Stressing out!!! Was told yesterday we'd hear today whether we had been shirt listed or not. It's ten past five and no call. Should I call them or does that l

AndieDisestablishment Wed 20-Feb-13 17:12:04

look pushy?! stress thumbs

FX Fish give it a couple of days and try again.

Glad you're feeling a but better Cookie

Hi everyone else.

cookielove Wed 20-Feb-13 17:16:57

Oooh Andie i don't know part of me would be chomping on the bit on the phone wanting to know but the more sensible person in me would wait till the morning to call probably around 10 as that gives them plently of time to call me instead of the other way round.

Thanks my but is feeling better to grin

fish88 Wed 20-Feb-13 17:21:49

Urgh, Andie I hate it when they don't call back in the time they say. The waiting is the worst part. I would be tempted to call just to ask for on update on whether they have decided or need more time?

Frog have bought some different tests so will wait a while and test again. Think next time I should get digital pregnant/not pregnant ones to save myself the stress! Don't think ERTD is going to appear in next couple of days, normally CM has dried up by this point but still lots of white, creamy CM at minute. (Sorry if tmi! blush)

fish88 Wed 20-Feb-13 17:22:42

P.S. Cookie My OH is lovely, but also useless! grin

AndieDisestablishment Wed 20-Feb-13 17:53:23

Hahaha, Cookie didn't mean to bring your but into it. Told you I had stress thumbs.
Fish The prolonged CM could be a good sign, it's often an early pg sign.

Well I called them, DP is as eager to find out as I am so made me.lol. It's taken them longer than expected so they'll be calling everyone first thing tomorrow. Eeeek.

cookielove Wed 20-Feb-13 17:54:26

Oh my god i am going to strangle my husband, he is soooo annoying!!

I as you all know have been off sick, and i put the dehumidifier on this morning as the bathroom has been really wet (i know) and dh didn't want it spreading out into the rest of the flat (god what have i married) so i tell him i put it on as i had been noticing how wet the room was over last few days cause i had been at home all week, thinking hi five cookie well done. I know i've been off i am bored. And he said 'yes thats why i put in on lots' . I know i feel a bit irrational here but why can't he ever just say well done, but always bring up that he has done it to.

And breath.


fish88 Wed 20-Feb-13 18:07:01

Haha, feeling similar Cookie after the heated discussion with my OH this morning about why he feels the need to turn on every single light as he walks through the house but then forgets to turn any of them off. Plus leaving all the taps running and the doors open, etc.! Useless, all of them! Love him really!

fish88 Wed 20-Feb-13 18:07:38

Andie Fingers and toes crossed for you. Although Boo for having to wait another night to find out.

cookielove Wed 20-Feb-13 18:14:55

He's just done something really nice for me so maybe i will love him again grin

Bearface Wed 20-Feb-13 19:22:21

Hi Guys,

We've had some bad news in the Bear household. DH had his docs appt for his second SA test and he was told over the phone that it was the same as before, i.e. borderline normal. When he went to the docs first time GP siad that it wasn't too bad and he thought it might just take us longer than everyone else but we'd get there in the end but they were just going to do another test to check.

Now, after the next SA test a different GP says that the swimmers are not forming properly. Only a really tiny percentage are properly formed, so our chances of conceiving with current results are 'highly unlikely'. We haven't given up completely, but we are so so sad. sad

DH is extremely healthy too, so there isn't much he can change about his lifestyle that might affect it. We're talking about someone with no excess body fat, who exercises daily, doesn't smoke and hardly drinks. He eats really healthily too. GP is going to find out whether it is to do with the vein I told you about before, but at the moment it looks like we are going to have to explore other options. It doesn't mean we can't have a baby, but it does mean we probably can't do it without some major help, perhaps even IVF.

I feel really sad and angry. I know it isn't the end of the road, but I can't help but have feelings of self-pity and resentment. I know lots of people have crap in their lives and I've had my fair share too, but I really thought, well, at least I'll be able to have some children when DH and I are ready and they will bring us joy and happiness, but now it's seeming like it will be a struggle to do that too. It's just so unfair. angry

Sorry for this outpouring of bleugh and angst. We'll get over it and move on. It helps just for me to write it down though, so I hope you don't mind. confused

Need to go back and read as been away for a few days, so sorry for no personal messages here. Hope everyone is well though. x

Bearface Wed 20-Feb-13 19:26:35

Oh good luck Fish! Hope it is your BFP. smile

cookielove Wed 20-Feb-13 19:35:32

Bearface oh no that is not good news, well at least you still have hope with IVF. Do you know if you'll get IVF on the NHS in your area?

I totally get the writing it down, its good therapy.

Any way thinking of you smile

notsoold Wed 20-Feb-13 20:00:27

Bear...this is the place to vent ....xxx

fish88 Wed 20-Feb-13 20:05:52

So sorry Bear, completely understand the angst. My OH may have a varicose vein in teste as well although he has been told by doctor that it is nothing to worry about. He has decided not to go back to the doctors about it until we have been trying for 6 months or more so sometimes worry that I am getting my hopes up for nothing confused Make sure you give yourself time to get your head around it, is it half term for you this week as well?

Rockchick1984 Wed 20-Feb-13 20:06:16

Oh, Bear, I'm so sorry sad You are so lovely, you deserve to be happy, and hopefully the vein will be the cause and you will be fine once he has the op! If not though you will still be a mum, even if it takes longer than you hoped thanks

SaggyOldClothCatpuss Wed 20-Feb-13 20:09:34

Can I join? I remember lurking wistfully on the first Viroids thread, but DP didnt want any more DCs. Santa left me something extra at christmas! and DP has been great and realised that he didnt think it was such a bad thing after all, then I MC'd about 3 weeks ago. sad
We are not actually TTC, we are going to 'just see how thing go', so I thought it'd be nice to join you guys. Im currently awaiting my first post MC ERTD, but I'm not letting that stand in the way of us putting in a good effort! grin
So here I am.

Name SaggyOldClothCatPuss
Any DC's DS16, DD14.
TTC Februaury 2013

cookielove Wed 20-Feb-13 20:58:21

Hello Saggy <waves>

SaggyOldClothCatpuss Wed 20-Feb-13 21:29:42

<<waves back>>

Bearface Thu 21-Feb-13 09:41:32

Hello Saggy - welcome. Really sorry about your MC. sad I hope things get better for you.

Thanks ladies for your support. Your comments were so sweet and made me cry a little bit, but in a good way. smile

DH and I sat down last night with the results and talked about how we could perhaps improve them. We decided it's worth a try even with the whole vein thing just in case it isn't that and there might some lifestyle factors we could change. The main thing seems to be keeping the testicles cool so DH is going to buy some looser gangster-type trews! And he's wearing his out of shape pants too. grin So, we'll see what happens over the next couple of months.

Yes, it is half term for me this week, Fish which is nice so I can just chil out and think things through. Also, our lube is about to arrive and ERTD is about to trundle off, so back on the hoping wagon for us. It might just be a very long journey . . .

Any word on your test Fish?

How about your job Andie? Really hope you get shortlisted. FX for you.

fish88 Thu 21-Feb-13 10:05:46

All over the place at the minute.

Tested this morning with a Boots own brand test and got a faint BFP, was all excited for about 20 minutes. Shone my mobile light through it and the vertical line wasn't visable. When I think back, I think there was already a faint vertical line on it before I even peed on it. Did a quick google search and turns out quite a few people have had false positives with this test before. Was really surprised as I thought it would be a trusted brand. I don't feel like I can get my hopes up now.

Going to get into town later and buy a digital one so that I don't have to stand holding it up to the light trying to work out if it is positive. Not going to let myself get excited until another test comes out BFP as well.

Bearface Thu 21-Feb-13 10:07:31

That's annoying for you Fish. Well, good luck for the digi!

cookielove Thu 21-Feb-13 14:07:00

Ah fish that is so annoying for you!!

Still no ERTD for me will be testing tomorrow if she chooses not to appear, which i can't believe i've managed to wait so long not to test.

<pats self on back>

Andie did you hear any thing yet?

fish88 Thu 21-Feb-13 15:32:36

Took a digital test this afternoon and got a BFP! grin When I ejected the tip it had two very strong blue lines on it as well.

Very excited now but feel I should be doing something baby related! I have already warned my OH that I feel like kidnapping a newborn!

Bearface Thu 21-Feb-13 16:11:37

Yayyyyy Fish!!!!! That's brilliant news. Huge congratulations! x

AndieDisestablishment Thu 21-Feb-13 17:25:23

Yayyyy Fish grin

Bear Sorry to hear about DHs test results. Glad you're feeling more positive though, there are still options. FX for you.

Cookie I can't believe you haven't tested yet. Willpower if steel.

I am through to pre training next week. grin Yayyyy. Am very excited. There's 22 of us vying for 15 posts so not bad odds. Having a dilemma though, if we are hired we have to have Occupational Health assessments so I'm now hoping to NOT be upduffed as if bloods show I'm preggers I might not get a position as it's a 6month traineeship and I have to be able to move and steady patients. confused

fish88 Thu 21-Feb-13 17:48:44

Congratulations Andie, keeping FX for you.

Me and OH are so excited, I want to go and tell everyone I know but we have agreed to keep it to ourselves for a little while. hmm bets are I cave in the first time I see my mum!

notsoold Thu 21-Feb-13 18:04:52

Congratulations Fish! smile smile smile

cookielove Thu 21-Feb-13 18:19:45

Oh yay fish so so happy for you smile

Andie thats really good news, the odds are very good then smile

I know i am really suprised at my will power, i think ertd may be on its way though as i have had a few (hardly any to be fair) sharp pains in my tummy, although not really any cramps, but we shall see, what will be will be grin

Bearface Thu 21-Feb-13 18:47:01

Well done Andie on getting through!

Come on Cookie - test! <waves the POAS in front of her face and then dangles it from a magical thread>

cookielove Thu 21-Feb-13 18:53:24

I will test tomorrow promise smile

fish88 Thu 21-Feb-13 18:54:44

Cookie FX you will be joining me with some good news tomorrow smile

cookielove Thu 21-Feb-13 19:11:53

Thanks heres hoping smile

Rockchick1984 Thu 21-Feb-13 19:26:59

Yaaaaaaaayyyyyyyy Fish!!!!

Fx Cookie - when were you expecting ERTD?

Well done so far Andie, when will bloods etc be done? Are you going to delay TTC if you get the job (and aren't already upduffed)?

MotherOfCleo Thu 21-Feb-13 19:30:38

fish whoop whoop! Fab fab fab news! grin grin grin

Am i right in thinking this is only cycle two for you guys?

fish88 Thu 21-Feb-13 20:09:26

Thanks for all the support guys grin

Yes Cleo, only cycle 2. Feeling a bit guilty, like I haven't paid my dues or something! blush

MotherOfCleo Thu 21-Feb-13 20:11:55

fish dont feel guilty, we would all love to be in your shoes grin

cookielove Thu 21-Feb-13 21:07:56

Rock it was due between sunday and tues!!
Watching one born is making me sad

Bearface Thu 21-Feb-13 21:12:35

Fish - don't feel bad - it's just one of those things where some people are really lucky and others aren't. That's life. Who knows why things happen as they do? Just be happy that you have your BFP. We're all really pleased for you. smile

Cookie - so you're late then? And feeling weepy? hmm

cookielove Thu 21-Feb-13 21:24:21

Yes late, but I am always weepy

cookielove Thu 21-Feb-13 21:56:49

Sorry meant to write more than that, but was on phone and got distracted smile

Yes i am late, if only by a few days, but last month i was over a week late and was so sure i was, just waiting for my BFP, i tested almost every other day, of course always a negative sad and then woke up one morning and there was ERTD.

I was kinda cross at my body for tricking me blush so i didn't really have my heart in it this last month, so had been telling myself to just get this month out the way and start again.

So even being late now i am still ech, i don't think so. Of course i hope i am, and i keep thinking i'm going to see those two lines, but got to be good and wait till tomorrow morning.

I always cry at the drop of a hat, adverts, BGT, anything sets me off.

Anyway i got my fingers crossed for tomorrow.

frogchops Thu 21-Feb-13 22:23:49

Congrats fish.... Didnt I say the bfn/evap line dilemma happened the same to me?!! I had a sneaky feeling when u said that! ;) annoyingly u would've prob got a bfp a few days ago on a decent test! Silly ic's!!

AndieDisestablishment Thu 21-Feb-13 23:00:49

Don't feel bad Fish we're all chuffed for you.
Cookie I cried at OBEM this week, the little boy telling his baby brother he was a cutey and kissing him. Got me.lol
Rock Yeah, I think we'll stop trying for a couple of months if I get this job and am not already pg. Start date is 13th May due to CRB checks so Occ H would be around April I think.
Thanks for all the good wishes ladies. grin

notsoold Thu 21-Feb-13 23:02:35

Cookie...fx for you tomorrow....smile

Just a quick post to share that I told dh about pg and he was cautiously happy....I know I said I wasn't going to but the mad, mad man wanted help carrying heavy furniture from ikea. So i told him among the household plants....not very romantic was it???? Still no symptoms and that is stressing me out....
Fx for all waiting and testing in near future....

fish88 Fri 22-Feb-13 08:43:04

Just proves you are never out until ERTD shows up! I had one BFN, one BFN with possible evap line, one unreliable BFP before finally getting a BFP on digital test. If I'm ever TTC again I'm going to make sure to keep a few digi's lying around to confirm. Even me and my OH couldn't read that one wrong!

Thanks for all the support guys, can I stick around here for a while with all you lovely people? Too scared to move to grads thread yet

Notso I had loads of "symptoms" last month that turned out to be BFN and then have had nothing this month, isn't it odd! Only give away this month was a white, creamy CM.

FX Cookie for you test today. I don't think I have ever watched OBEM without getting weepy! I have one recorded at the minute but I'm avoiding it for a few days. Need to get my head around being upduffed before I start freaking out about labour. confused

Bearface Fri 22-Feb-13 10:38:42

Oh Cookie - yes, I forgot about the body playing tricks on you. I can understand why you are being very cautious now. Still, it sounds hopeful. Got everything crossed for you.

Glad your DH is happy Notso. Hope you can start tentatively planning now.

ERTD seems to be drying up thankfully, so can have another go. DH and I have been doing lots of sperm research and are dosing ourselves up with vits and good food in an effort to encourage his swimmers to multiply and grow. Also got our CP at the ready to use, so looking forward to that. wink So we're still hopeful that we can turn it around and maybe one day get a BFP. Ironically, I've now got a horrid cold, but need to get myself out of my PJs and to the shops to buy something to wear to the hen tomorrow when all I want to do is go back to bed. Sheesh!

bear late to this, but massive hugs to you and huge fx that you and OH will overcome - go swimmers!

Andie woohoo! Well done lady!

fish congrats lovely, and don't feel bad - you give people like me hope, it's a good thing, not a bad one!

I'm CD21, been weepy, (but stressed at work), bloated (even tho not eating much - no appetite) but think I am symptom spotting rather than upduffed as we only DTD 3 times over ov period this month.

Rockchick1984 Fri 22-Feb-13 16:15:59

Bear have you considered using whispers OPK's to make sure you DTD at the right time? Or would that not help you? The CP - I've read loads of reviews where people haven't liked it but I actually quite enjoyed using it blush

Humpty it only takes one swimmer, so don't count yourself out just yet smile

cookielove Fri 22-Feb-13 17:20:12

BFN, but still no ertd so still in it I guess.

I'll be back in a few hours, as a kid threw up all over my legs today (yuck) and I've been dying to have a bath to get rid of the stale vomit odour I've been wearing all day.

Bearface Fri 22-Feb-13 19:10:42

Oh Cookie - I still have my fingers crossed for you.

Thanks Humpty - I'm willing them on. It's frustrating though that any changes you make take three months to have any effect on the swimmers. It does mean I can go to job interviews without feeling too guilty though as I really don't expect to get upduffed for a while now. As for you, Humpty, it could still be . . . smile

Rock - <whispers back> I have and we do. I have quite long periods lasting until CD 9 usually and then I ov sometime between CD 12 and 15, so I don't know if it's long enough to get the swimmers up there in time and doing whatever they have to. I think it is, but it seems like it's quite tight for time.

One thing we are going to do is to keep it going this time so that we don't fizzle out after when we think there's ov. I'm quite looking forward to using CP blush. Never used anything before, so it's quite exciting!

Bought myself some new nail varnish and eye make-up today, along with new trousers and a top for tomorrow so feeling all spangly. Currently wearing my make-up on way to gym - going to look a tad overdressed, but I do live in Essex so probably no one will notice!

Hooya Sat 23-Feb-13 00:33:17

<unlurks> hello everyone!

Just popping in to say:

Bear so sorry about the results, it's so f**king unfair isn't it? Sperm quality does change though and you will be able to get there eventually, maybe not the way you wanted which is tough, but you WILL get there <offers unmumsnetty hugs, wafts cooling breeze towards MrBear's crotch>

notso how are you, hope you're good and not mentalling too much, don't worry about symptoms I had none at all at the beginning god I miss those days and some never get that many. Everything xed for you!

fish congrats <does bfp happydance> woohoo! Never feel bad if it happens early, anyone who has been through waiting knows how hard it is and just wants everyone to get their babies with ease! smile

cookie all the very best of luck, I had the whole BFN then BFP 2 days later with this pregnancy, so who knows!

Andie good luck with job stuff!

Red hope biz trip is going well, I think my current preg was conceived with sperm deposited pre ovulation on a biz trip to India (the dates suggest that's what happened) so it can work!

Hi to zumba and CatPuss <waves> CatPuss I MCed back in Oct and I'm duffed again now, same with a few JSing grads, all the best to you!

Hello also to Cora, Humpty and all the others I missed!

Redshoes56 Sat 23-Feb-13 04:27:26

Hello all! Business trip went really well, had some huge wins at work that I am feeling particularly thrilled about. Go corporate machine, go! Now if only my uterus could perform so well. I do think we missed the bus this month with me in a crappy hotel in a Boston suburb, sitting all alone with my pant snot, but maybe we had enough stored up as hooya did ... we shall see grin! fish congratulations! May the good luck rub off on the rest of us.

bear in the wake of crap news, you have the best effing attitude. About everything. All women should be like you! I hope that you defy the odds and get the HFP (huge, not just big) soon. You deserve it.

Redshoes56 Sat 23-Feb-13 04:47:26

notso, laughing a bit about the big IKEA reveal!

cookielove Sun 24-Feb-13 20:29:24

Hello all smile

SaggyOldClothCatpuss Sun 24-Feb-13 22:03:21

Ooh Bear I'm near Colchester. Where are you if you don't mind me asking?
Hooya thanks for the words of encouragement. I'm still waiting for the ERTD. We're DTD often, but just for fun really. I know we will get there eventually, it's just the waiting is hell!
I'm back at the EPAU on Thursday to see the doctor, hCG has stalled at about 100. sad I'm still getting a faint positive from the MC! sad

Rockchick1984 Sun 24-Feb-13 22:44:08

Cookie any news either way???

Bearface Mon 25-Feb-13 09:49:53

Sorry Saggy, but I'd rather not say as I'd rather remain incognito! Sorry that you're still getting a faint positive. sad

You look happy Cookie! Any news?

Thanks Red and Hooya - what lovely messages. smile I don't feel like I've got the best attitude, but I'm trying, so thanks.

Done my job app and now waiting to hear. Should find out this week if I've got an interview. Bites nails frantically I know that we should be able to get help on the NHS should we need it, but I'm aware now of the need for a bit more money in case we need to go beyond the confines of the NHS in the future. Eek!

frogchops Mon 25-Feb-13 10:38:50

Have just seen tht its fertility week on This Morning....there's a feature every day this week looking at fertility related issues not sure about today, but I'm sure tomorrow was about people who have been trying for a long time and Wednesday about low sperm counts etc...can't remember about thurs and fri, just thought it might be interesting??

cookielove Mon 25-Feb-13 19:23:18

Nope no news really, no bfp tested yesterday and no ertd either I checked my cycle length last time it was 39 days my usually length is 25-27 so counted last one as a blip. So not sure if my cycle is changing and if it is then my period is actually due on the 9th. Does that make sense.

I am quite happy though smile
I am in my dori bubble instead of 'just keep swimming' I think 'just keep shagging' grin

SaggyOldClothCatpuss Mon 25-Feb-13 19:48:24

That's ok Bear. grin I'd have kept your secret though! wink

notsoold Mon 25-Feb-13 20:53:40

Yesterday I started having cramps about 6pm....not so painful as periods cramps but only on my right side.
No other symptoms and otherwise well...
I went to epu today and because I am 6+2 they dod some blood tests and told me to come home. They thought that at 6+2 a heartbeat might not showed in a scan and I would stress even more...
The epu phoned tonight and told me to book a scan tomorrow and that the hcg result was 5163...
Should I be worried???
Can it be ectopic with that result??
Ps I am 41..

cookielove Mon 25-Feb-13 21:19:30

I really have no clue, but wanted to say hope it all turns out ok and offers a ((hug)) and hand holding.
Hopefully this will give it bump for someone more knowledgeable to come along.

notsoold Mon 25-Feb-13 21:45:27

Cookie...holding hand...

GaryBuseysTeeth Mon 25-Feb-13 22:02:42

notso, I asked about ectopic pg back when I was 6wks & apparently that early it's unlikely to be an ectopic because the baby is too small be doing any damage to tubes/cause symptons.
According to the chart halfway down this page you're in the normal range too, so everything crossed for you.
God luck for the scan <holds free hand until the scan>

Congrats fish

Saggy, sorry about your hcg result, hope it's nothing they need to intervene in.

Hope you get a positive reply from job people asap Bear.

<waves> at everyone else, 16+2 weeks here & missing JS blush

notsoold Mon 25-Feb-13 22:37:54

Gary...holding hand....

SaggyOldClothCatpuss Tue 26-Feb-13 00:11:11

Notso I'm fairly certain when I researched the same cramps, that ectopic pain is constant, not crampy. Fingers crossed for you. Xx

Redshoes56 Tue 26-Feb-13 04:15:16

Hang in there notso. Thinking positive thoughts!

Rockchick1984 Tue 26-Feb-13 08:07:34

Notso thats what my cramps have been like - turns out it's a harmless cyst on the ovary which released the egg and is very common. It just shrinks away during the first trimester. I was so scared though that something was going wrong! Good luck for today's scan, I'm certain you will be fine thanks

Bearface Tue 26-Feb-13 15:32:57

Hope it goes okay Notso. There's no hands left so I will hold your foot instead.

notsoold Tue 26-Feb-13 16:47:19

Thanks girls!!!

bear hold my foot please.....

just back from my scan and mixed feelings really. The good news is that the yolk sac is at the right place (and not ectopic although I am still in pain). But no fetal pole was found and they said that maybe pregancy is around 5 weeks???I will have to return on the 7th March for another scan. The MW was lovely but pretty much said to me to prepare myself for the worst sad

Sorry about the me,me,me post!!!

frogchops Tue 26-Feb-13 16:58:53

Oh notso, I'm sorry. Could u have your dates wrong? Is it constant pain? Have you had any bleeding? I wouldn't have even thought to check it out if it wasn't as bad as period pain as ive been told this normal! I still get that now at 10 weeks :-/

notsoold Tue 26-Feb-13 17:05:36

frog I was told to go because the pain (although not the worse stays only o one place). I am not bleeding nor spotting but my dates can not be wrong I don't think (I wish I was...). we dtd the 25th and 26th and I ovulated around 27 to 28th....

frogchops Tue 26-Feb-13 17:13:36

I thought pain on the right side just indicated eptopic? Is the pain constant? Fx he's just got some catching up to do and it's too early for heart beat etc.

notsoold Tue 26-Feb-13 17:15:35

I thought so although I had the same during pg with DD ad constant on the left with DS...I hope you are right re being too early...

frogchops Tue 26-Feb-13 17:33:33

A combination of oving later than u thought and implanting later than u thought could all easily add up to a weeks difference. Some of us at 11/12 weeks are being put back a week when it got to dating scan just as some have gone forward! My mw at booking in...8+3... Said it was too early for heartbeat even then, so who knows!!

notsoold Tue 26-Feb-13 18:03:34

Thank you...frog xxx

Bearface Tue 26-Feb-13 18:54:53

Holding foot tenderly.

Hang in there Notso. Like Frog said, they may have got it wrong. I just had a look on Dr Google being completely unaware of everything like this and it said that it is quite normal for a fetal pole not be identified until 9 weeks. Hope this helps a bit. Sending you hugs and foot squeezes. x

frogchops Tue 26-Feb-13 19:05:40

After this little discussion/hand/foot/limb hold.... I hve now developed ridiculous pain on my right side.... And as much as I've told you not to worry, I'm getting exactly how you feel! It's quite unnerving, I'm glad I already have a Drs appt booked for tomorrow....

Bearface Tue 26-Feb-13 19:09:58

I can hold a frog leg or one of your chops for you too Frog. Hope it gets better and isn't anything sinister. x

notsoold Tue 26-Feb-13 19:16:51

I can't guarantee holding chops without eating them...but hope you feel better soon frog xx

Thanks bear xx

frogchops Tue 26-Feb-13 19:50:14

Whoosh, that was painful, it's easing now but still there...it's the kind of pain that makes you scared to stand up. Will let u now what dr says :-/ thanks for the holding, feel free to have a nibble notso there's plenty to go around.

AndieDisestablishment Tue 26-Feb-13 20:05:32

Notso I hope they're wrong. FX for next scan.
Frog Fx yours is sympathy pain.lol. Seriously though, hope you're ok.

ERTD got me yesterday. So I've got the witch and a cold in attendance while I'm trying my best to impress the NHS people during this pre-employment training. So far so good but if I get the job I'm not allowed pink hair so normal hair will have to return. Boooo.

How is everyone? Any news on that job Bear?

MrsBri Tue 26-Feb-13 20:06:00

De-lurks...sounds like round ligament pain, Frog. I got them really badly at your stage.

Notso, keeping my fingers crossed for you. xx

SaggyOldClothCatpuss Tue 26-Feb-13 20:12:16

Sending positive vibes for everyone. Xxxx

cookielove Tue 26-Feb-13 20:50:46

Hello ladies, oh fingers crossed hand holding and hair stroking (i like this when i am worried, so clearly everyone else must) for ever one who needs it.

Thinking of you all.


frogchops Tue 26-Feb-13 21:02:43

Cookie, I'm all for hair stroking, my DP used to do it lots, bless him, but recently I've been all, 'get off I'm hot, cold, hurting, crampy, tired' etc etc. I really should be nicer to him :-/

GaryBuseysTeeth Tue 26-Feb-13 21:37:33

Notso, sorry the scan wasn't so reassuring, hope the next week passes quickly for you. x

frog, hope you're just having cramps, I had terrible cramps with DS..I think the first time you feel it more as everything is yet to be battered into a flabby mess grin

Andie, I had to take my purple hair back to boring ginge when I was younger (and working!) so boo! to them & boo to ERTD!

<waves at everyone else>

Fx for all being well with frog and notso.
Andie sorry about ERTD and cold, but is job pre-induction thingammy going well?
Nothing to report here - working hard (dull), still symptom spotting carrying on as normal counting the hours until 2ww is up and I can use my ics and even managed a cheeky DTD the other day, most unusual on a work night! I have noticed I've been HORNY as anything way beyond the usual 3 day window I get around ov'ing (TMI alert) [blushes]

That's not a symptom is it? IS IT? Someone hooya me...

Bearface Wed 27-Feb-13 10:06:25

Oooo Humpty - sounds well, promising! wink

How are you doing today Notso and Frog? Hope the docs appt goes well Frog.

Andie - no, no news on the job yet. I'm really hoping that they get back to me today as I'm away for the weekend from Thursday, so wouldn't have that long to prepare for an interview, but I do have a day off today, so could do my prep today. Also, would love just to be shortlisted of course! Good luck with your pre-employment training. Sorry you've got to go boring with your hair. I think sometimes people forget you can still look smart with an alternative and individual look.

We're back into JSing. I've not been very well and still feeling a bit crusty with cold, so slept for nearly 9 1/2 hours last night! I like my sleep anyway, but I also slept for a couple of hours when I got home from work yesterday too. Must be a bit more run down than I thought.

With JSing DH says he has good feelings about it all and that we might get a result soon. This is based on absolutely no scientific fact or anything really, but I'm willing to go with it!

frogchops Wed 27-Feb-13 12:44:10

Morning viroids.
Drs appt was ok, he thought as mrs bri said that it was just ligament stretching, although he did have a poke around and it hurt when he pressed. Said he couldn't feel my uterus though when I asked....this has worried me as I'd've thought u should be able to see it let alone feel the dam thing. ??? Anyway I have a note for a week for horrible pains that come and go...

Rockchick1984 Wed 27-Feb-13 13:05:31

Frog how far along are you? Uterus doesn't usually pop out of the pelvis until 12 weeks or so, no need to worry unless you're a lot further along that that smile

frogchops Wed 27-Feb-13 13:19:38

Am 10+3 so not passed the magic 12 yet, but I see lots of ladies talk about their bumps and little pokey bits at 11 ish wks. I want one. If only just to feel like there's something there!

frog does 10+3 mean ten weeks plus 3 days? (ignorant smiley)

Had a dull day today - working so bloody hard, this is AWFUL, but I want to get upduffed to have a reason to take it easy! I don't mean I think preg/mat leave is a skive, just a reason for me to make myself leave work on time and not fuss if housework isn't done, IYSWIM.
Hum ho, upwards and upwards...

frogchops Wed 27-Feb-13 18:19:07

Humpty, yes 10 wk 3 days. Iswym about taking things easier....and I'm just starting to listen to my own body, it tells me to slow down much more now. In fact I could've just self certed myself a few days off with cramps this week,but I got a note for a week, its not often I think about me rather than work.

cookielove Wed 27-Feb-13 22:47:32

Hello hello hello, DH has gone away sad for 6 days!!!!!

I am not meant to be sad, but really WHYYYYYYYYY??

Silver lining, i get the bed to myself (yay)

Still no ERTD, i tested this morning and there was no result, but when i came home this evening over 10 hours later it appeared to be a negative sad so really not sure whats going on with me.

Rockchick1984 Wed 27-Feb-13 23:20:19

cookie are you still testing with IC's? It may be worth investing in a posh test just in case you have a dodgy batch? If still a negative I think I'd be going to the dr to figure out where ERTD has gone visions of Dr with a treasure map and binoculars

Redshoes56 Thu 28-Feb-13 03:30:38

Sorry to hear about ERTD, Andie. And sorry you aren't feeling well, bear. Sending thanks!

Cookie I have to agree with Rock - maybe get some new tests in case the ones you have are defective, before sending in search and rescue crews. And enjoy having that bed to yourself.

Humpty that line of thinking is not awful, at least I don't think it is, because I feel the same way! Imagine leaving on time without guilt! And surely maternity leave is NOT three months "off" but least it's three months away from the office.

Nothing too exciting to report from Camp Shoes. About to launch a string of complaints, though, none of which constitute as symptom spotting wink: Horrible heartburn (normal for me), twinge-y boobs (also not unusual pre-ERTD), exhaustion (understandable, balancing work and master's studies). I have a weird lumpy feeling in my throat (hope I am not getting sick) and am freezing cold. Wah wah wah. OK, pity party over.

cookielove Thu 28-Feb-13 15:50:57

Rock and Red yes i am still testing with IC, will have a look at the finances to see if i can fork out for a more expensive test, although i am babysitting 3 times in the next couple of days, so should be able to get something for Sunday if ERTD hasn't come by then.

See now i am thinking that my periods have started to change and have longer cycles not sure why, but maybe my body is wierd confused so i am not really late yet!!

Fingers crossed now that i have a dodgy batch!!

Andie sad sorry you came on, so are you still in the running for the job!?! or am i confused about this!?!!

Bear your dh sounds lovely!!

frog glad the appointment went ok smile

Am 2 days off due with ERTD, but was feeling so confident that I was upduffed this morning that I P'dOAS. BFN. Bloody buggery boo.
Obvs will POAS again tomorrow and Saturday if no witch, but I had such a good feeling this month. Bloody bumheads.

cookielove Thu 28-Feb-13 20:41:14

Ok i must have had a mental block, for some reason if i think my period is changing wierdly to 39 days, (a big jump from 25-27) then it wouldn't be the 9th it would be 3rd, so i am gonna try and hold out to then to test again, or see if ERTD shows it's ugly nasty head!!

Witch got me today (1 day early) so I'm out, but never mind. Had an awesome driving lesson (first one since failing test) so feeling sunny about the world! Hope everyone well, fx for cookie.

Zumbasmyfave Fri 01-Mar-13 21:42:29

Fingers crossed Cookie
congrats frog
Sorry to hear ERTD caught up with ya Humpty Well done on the driving lesson. I only passed my test last year- HATED learning to drive!

Latest with me, still no sign of ov I don't think confused Or AF.. 3 months now. Keeding up the regular JSing any-hoo! Hmph..

Happy weekend all

cookielove Fri 01-Mar-13 23:01:09

I think I am having a mental break down, for several reasons

1) cd 39 is actually tomorrow

2) I completly forgot it was pay day thurs and have been worrying about making it to the end of the month confused

3) I cried like a baby watching 'mary and martha' and then I watched 'when vacations attack' and also cried hmm

Humpty sorry the witch got you but yay for the lesson.

cookielove Sat 02-Mar-13 17:52:17

Hello all, me again just wanted to say that i think ERTD has got me, so i guess that means that my cycle length has increased.

Well i'll be able to confirm for sure tomorrow as i am just wiping and its pink so we shall see.

Redshoes56 Sat 02-Mar-13 21:16:28

Ah hell, humpty and cookie, ERTD here too so we can suffer together! Nice work on the lesson, humpty!

I am sitting here like a total crank, eating cookies, while working on a paper. Second to last class, MBA ceremony two months from tomorrow. I can do this, I can do this....

Everyone has been inordinately quiet, hope that you're all having a lovely weekend smile

cookielove Sun 03-Mar-13 11:19:07

It has been so quiet, feel like i am rambling on to myself!! smile

Well i am still in the unknown land bought a digital pregnancy test yesterday, but ERTD never really came, i wiped pink twice yesterday and then nothing else, checked this morning and there was nothing so i thought i would test!!


oh well what to do, think i will try and hold off till Friday now to test again.

Rockchick1984 Sun 03-Mar-13 11:59:15

Cookie give it until partway through the week, but if still no ERTD or BFP I'd get a Dr's appointment personally - it's a big change in your cycle if you've gone from an average length to 40+ day cycle! although less periods each year smile Digi tests aren't the best for picking up lower levels of HCG though, if still nothing in a few days I'd go for a first response.

Sorry to hear about ERTD Red

Where's everyone gone??? Thread is sooooo quiet!!

cookielove Sun 03-Mar-13 12:19:15

Thanks Rock i will go find a shop that sells first response tomorrow, and if nothing happens i will go to the doctor!!

Yes <shouts> COME BACK EVERYBODY blush

cookielove Sun 03-Mar-13 13:01:52

Ok, more cramping now (had none up to this morning) and wiped more pink!! Still no actual blood but i am sure its coming my way!! sad

Rockchick1984 Sun 03-Mar-13 17:10:26

Implantation smile

I'm still lurking! smile Got midwife mon, am 7+1 today, time is going sooooooooo slowly! Am hoping I might get an early scan, but we will see, keep shagging ladies, got my fingers crossed for u all xx

Redshoes56 Sun 03-Mar-13 18:28:41

Sorry cookie sad - if its ERTD, let's hope next month is our month! And bear's. And everyone else on this thread!

Going to visit my girlfriend's new little one today. We never did end up seeing her in the hospital because she wasn't quite ready for visitors, and then I was away on business. Looking forward to it. For now, I still have my kitties (the fat orange one is resting his head on my lap as I type)....

Redshoes56 Sun 03-Mar-13 18:29:35

Hiya threeblondies! Glad to see you here and that things are going well!

notsoold Sun 03-Mar-13 19:26:15

Good luck tomorrow!!!!

Cookie... I really hope the witch keeps away.

Red...kittens ...how lovely...

I am just lurking around and waiting for Thursday.... Spend half of the time thinking negative and half dreaming for a positive...

cookielove Sun 03-Mar-13 19:41:50

Hi threeblondes!!

Rock - was that meant for me? I don't think so, i think it really is ERTD.

I have consoled myself with rolo, milky way puddings, crisps and chocolate, dreading getting weighed tomorrow now. Ahh well you only live once, and all that.

frogchops Sun 03-Mar-13 21:10:01

Just posting to keep you in my threads list.... Am lurking still, keeping my eye on you all!!

AQuarkTooFar Mon 04-Mar-13 09:34:07

Hi all still here! Will try and catch up on all the news later.

I have had a crappy weekend. Am in fertile week according to my app. Managed to DTD once over the weekend. Also managed a very public meltdown at a party. Got in a shouting match with a male friend then broke down in tears. Everything is getting a little on top of me which is why I haven't been around much. sad

Anyway hope you are all ok and fingers crossed for loads of BFPs in March!

Evenin' all! Still ERTD'ing here - very slooooooow to come on properly this month...

Sorry to hear you're having a rubbish time Quark, cookie hope ERTD hasn't arrived yet, and hugs to everyone waiting for bfps and lurking.

cookielove Mon 04-Mar-13 21:13:58

ERTD is offically here sad

Redshoes56 Mon 04-Mar-13 22:49:28

Boo, sorry cookie.

Aunt Flo just hit the road for me, so it's back to business in the Shoes household! Otherwise, nothing exciting happening here.

cookielove Tue 05-Mar-13 13:15:27

Dh is back tonight, yay!!

I've really missed him, I haven't heard his voice for so long sad

So hopefully we to will be back to business soon to this is our month. THIS IS OUR MONTH. THIS IS OUR MONTH!!!!

BrassicaBabe Tue 05-Mar-13 15:31:30

<sneaks in>

Can I say a little "Hi"? I'm a JSing Founder Member and was a grad on about thread 3 and it was my Gu ramekin that started the PIAR

(I now have 20 month old twins and I'm just raising my head above the parapet. I've not been on MN since DTs were born really.)

I'm glad to see you are still going at it so to speak.

I'm going to have a little search around to see who else I can find.

Keep up the good fight virods grin

Bearface Tue 05-Mar-13 17:00:45

Hello all! <waves madly> I missed you guys! I've been away for the weekend, then working and had a job interview today. I still don't know if I got the job yet. I'd really like it, but I'm sure they're going to give it to someone else. Sigh. Oh well, I guess you just don't know. I feel it went as well as it could have, so as DH said to me, it probably comes down to what type of person they are after and whether I fit the bill. So, we'll see.

Well, there's tonnes to catch up on, but I need to be brief!

Quark - sorry you're having a rubbish time. Hope things get better for you. Here, have the unicorn to hold for a bit . . .

Red - keep going with the study - it's tough balancing them out, but I'm sure you'll do a fab job!

Sorry for everyone who got ERTD. sad

Hi Brassica - nice to hear a success story! Are you back on the JSing wagon then?

DH and I managed to DTD a couple of times over the weekend, but I just couldn't face it last night and really needed to save my energy for the interview. Maybe we'll have a go tonight instead after the footie!

Hope everyone is well! smile

notsoold Thu 07-Mar-13 11:05:25

Back from scan and everything is fine. They found a fetal pole with a hearbeat....smiledated around 6 weeks instead of almost 8 but I was told not to worry
Thank you for your suport and all the fxs and hand holding

Bearface Thu 07-Mar-13 17:03:12

That's great news Notso. smile

Bearface Thu 07-Mar-13 17:03:56

Is it me or have the emoticons gone a bit funny on MN? They look a bit blurry to me.

Bearface Thu 07-Mar-13 17:04:20

Or do I need to get my eyes tested? grin

notsoold Thu 07-Mar-13 17:17:06

Bear get yourself to the opticians girl!!! grin

Bearface Thu 07-Mar-13 17:24:16

grin notso

Shaggers, I forgot to say - the big news in BearLand is - I got the job!!! grinI start in September and I'm really pleased. As I said on the teachery fred, I think we'll just carry on TTC because there's such a small chance of it happening, and if it does happen we'll deal with it then.--Would rather have a baby than a job, but can't have it all I guess--

Rockchick1984 Thu 07-Mar-13 17:31:24

Yay Notso so glad it went well!!

Congratulations on the job Bear - even if you get pregnant they can't withdraw the job offer so by September you may have a new job and a baby bump grin

My scan went brilliantly today - 8 weeks and baby looked slightly like a baby rather than just a bean, saw the heartbeat and all is good smile

frogchops Thu 07-Mar-13 19:22:17

Yay for bears new job!! And yay for rocks scan of bean!
Double yay for notso.... You were so worried about that, I'm glad it all worked out smile

Yay for notso and yay for bear and yay for rock! It's a day of YAY!

cookielove Thu 07-Mar-13 19:56:24

Congratulations bear

Good news notso

Bearface Thu 07-Mar-13 19:56:27

Another yay! Thanks Rock, Humpty and Frog! Glad BabyRock is looking good!

notsoold Thu 07-Mar-13 22:40:57

Congratulations on the job , Bear!!! Way to go !!! smile

Bearface Fri 08-Mar-13 10:22:37

Cheers Notso! I'm really chuffed. Woke up this am and realised I don't have to spend half the day looking for a job! grin

Is DH back yet Cookie? Did you have a lovely reunion? Ahhh. Really cute how much you were missing him. My DH is away next week for a few days and I'll miss him terribly. Snivel. Oh well, got him all weekend first.

Is anyone testing soon? Where are we all up to?

I think we missed ov this month what with my interview and everything. We could have caught it though as we managed it before ov took place, a day or two, but I'm not holding my breath. DH is taking his Wellman vits and is doing everything he can to make his sperm better, so hoping that will all kick in in the next few months.

Hope you're all doing well too. Happy weekend and Happy International Women's Day - go us! x

Rockchick1984 Fri 08-Mar-13 10:32:59

Bear when are you testing? Have you been using the CP?

Bearface Fri 08-Mar-13 14:16:46

Rock - we only used it once! We forgot to take it away with us last weekend as we went away for the weekend. Doh! Maybe the once might have done it?! I'm not testing for at least another week. It would be typical that I would get upduffed now I've just accepted a job, but I don't care think it matters too much. The school I'm going to is a very traditional faith school, shall we say, so they would have to be ultra supportive I think!

Hooya Sat 09-Mar-13 04:15:53

<sneaks back in, pats unicorn>

Hello all! Just dropping in to say congrats to bear!

And hello to Brassica - lovely to have a founder member around! This thread was a most excellent idea and we are all indebted to you for creating a place where we could talk about shagging share our thoughts with likeminded shaggers! grin

Happy shagging to everyone, hoping for another bout of BFPs soon! I am 12+4, had amazing 12 week scan and after a ropey start with sickness, seem to be feeling better now which means some more shagging at last! grin

Hope everyone has a great weekend.

MrsBri Sat 09-Mar-13 09:15:33

Hello...de-lurking here too to say congrats to Bear on the new job :-) September seems so far away though! Hopefully you'll have a baby bump when you start though.

Yay to all the good scans too. So pleased for everyone as you've all had it hard. Fx to nice, uncomplicated pregnancies. :-)

25+2 here, which is amazing...baby appears to be a total loon, kicking loads and causing merry hell. Father's child! We didn't find out the sex, so I'll have more incentive to push now, ha ha.

Keep up the good work, shaggers.

Bearface Sat 09-Mar-13 17:45:04

Hi Hooya and MrsBri - good to hear your scans and babies are coming along well! Glad to hear you're feeling better Hooya and wow time has gone quickly MrsBri! Thanks for dropping by - it is great about the job. I'm really chuffed and September will roll around fairly quickly. It's only 6 months away.

So, one step forward with the job and two steps back with TTC here in BearLand. Sorry, but this might be a long one - scroll through if you don't want to read it all. No offence taken!

This morning we had a copy of the letter from the consultant about DH's varicocole in his scrotum, and we are now being referred to a fertility clinic. The letter said specifically that we needed to be referred with a view to IVF. They'll look at the varicocole and all other factors affecting fertility, but it seems likely that IVF is on the cards for us.

So, we're back to square one it would seem. We're going to try giving the vitamins and other sperm-enhancing techiques a go, but by the time we get an appointment for the referral it should be clear whether or not this has had any effect.

DH is okay, but I think he is hiding lots of underlying stress and upset because he thinks he's to blame, even though I've made it clear it's not his fault. I've tried talking to him, but he keeps saying he's okay. Maybe I'm fussing too much. hmm

As far as I'm concerned, I really wanted us to be able to have a baby naturally, so this is a bit of a blow because the consultant's letter and the way it's worded suggests that IVF is the most likely option. I feel sad about that.

I'm also worried that they'll say I'm too heavy. My BMI is currently 26, so now I've got the added pressure of trying to lose some weight, although I know it won't be too much to get me down into a normal BMI.

Then there's the fact that they only offer IVF in our area up to the age of 37 on the NHS and I'm now 34, so it's not long if we want more than one child, which we do.

I guess I just have a bit of a heavy heart today about the whole TTC thing. sad I'll probably be fine again tomorrow. No need to reply guys - I just wanted to get it all out as it helps. Thanks.

Rockchick1984 Sat 09-Mar-13 17:54:40

Oh, Bear I'm sorry sad hopefully they mean it's with a view to IVF if all else fails - better to be "known" to the clinic rather than not being if other options don't work! Can MrBear have the varicole removed, will that help? Would your local NHS offer more than one baby on IVF or would you have to fund a second child yourself, if so that lessens the time pressure a bit at least!

Bearface Sat 09-Mar-13 18:05:47

Not sure about how the funding works Rock or even how I find out?! They did talk about removal of the varicocole as an option, so maybe that will be all it takes. I guess we're quite in the dark ATM. I do think it's a good thing that we both go and get checked out with specialists though rather than just the GPs who don't seem to know very much so every cloud and all that.

frogchops Sat 09-Mar-13 18:57:28

Just de lurking with a quick one..... Bear your are not too heavy with a bmi of 26!! That's pretty much bang on for ideal bmi, I know from the grads that women aren't being consultant led until they have a bmi of over 30 and in some areas 35! I also know of two women who were refused ivf until they lowered they're bmi to below 35. I wouldn't think of ivf if that what they are thinking is a food option for you, as not having a baby naturally....you're just getting the necessary help needed for whatever reason to be able to have what you want. ;)

cookielove Sat 09-Mar-13 19:02:51

Hello all, Bear you seem to be getting some answers now, i know how very hard it is not to think about it it's all i seem to think about these days but maybe now you can put it to the back of your mind until the appointment comes round, you can relax and focus on the here and now and do some just shagging grin

Or maybe i don't know what i am talking about and feel free to ignore me.

Dh is back, and its feeeeeeling gooooooood smile

Although he came back with a cold hmm

AndieDisestablishment Sun 10-Mar-13 17:19:28

Happy (hopeful) Mother's Day shaggers!
I've just been catching up with the goings on while I've been absent.
It's been a roller coaster week for you Bear I hope the consultants letter was just them being cautious and preparing you for all eventualities but even if you do end up going through IVF, see it as a little helping hand.

Sad to see the witch got so many of you. My ERTD buggered off after 4 days but I had some spotting 2 days afterwards which was weird and I'm now three days into a tension headache that is impervious to paracetamol!

On the bright side, I got the job!! I start mid May providing all my identity checks and references come back in a timely manner, filled out my CRB check yesterday. I'm very excited. I met some nice ladies on my pre-training who have also got through to the real training programme so I'll already have some friends.
I've started potty training my 2 and a half year old so it's all go here.

Hope everyone's well.

cookielove Sun 10-Mar-13 17:34:40

Andie congratulations on the job!!!!! yay that is such good news you must feel like a weight has been lifted off your shoulders!!

and potty training your 2 year old, hmm enjoy that grin

I am sitting on the sofa watching 'the lucky one' oh my Zac Efron is a sooo sexy!!!

Bearface Mon 11-Mar-13 10:09:39

Andie - that's brilliant news - well done you! grin I'm so pleased for you!

Well, as predicted I'm feeling a bit more positive about it all now that it's had time to sink in. You are right, ladies, that IVF may not necessarily be on the cards - they may be being cautious. Plus you're right *Andie and others that I should see it as a helping hand. It's hard though. And from what I can see about waiting lists it seems it would better to get started now - they appear to be 12-18 months! shock

Frog - thanks for telling me about the BMI. I looked it up afterwards too and it seems it needs to be 29 or 30 in most areas before it becomes a problem. I'm still trying to lose weight though as ever!

Cookie - thanks for the advice and I know you're right, but again it's very difficult. I'm not falling apart or anything, but it's hard not to feel sad on days like Mothers' Day. I'll be much better come September when I'm working full-time and won't have as much time on my hands to think or to shag! Weirdly at the moment I feel a bit like I've gone a bit the other way and I'm starting to lose sight of the idea of having a baby of my own. DH and I were talking about future plans at the weekend and the phrase 'If DC ever appears . . . we can do X, Y, Z' whereas before we used to say 'when DC appears', so I feel like maybe I'm accepting it a bit more, or maybe just trying to get myself used to the idea that it may never happen.

Cookie - glad DH is back! wink

It's very snowy here! Has everyone else who's living in the UK got snow?

Bearface Mon 11-Mar-13 10:59:03

P.S. Wanted to say thanks to you all for reading, listening and offering advice. thanks

How are you guys alll doing?

cookielove Mon 11-Mar-13 21:05:56

We got the most miniatures of blizzards at work today, when i walked through the main piazza (mahoosive play area) the adults were all pointing at the window going 'oooooh' and then i was through the doors into the office and it had stopped hmm and that was that.

Bear i hope this thread gives you as it does me great comfort, i feel i can just come on here and vent, joke and just be and let all the worries of ttc big and small come out and i won't be judge and will be listened to and given loads of support.

I don't mean to get all soppy and stuff but when i have been feeling at my lowest of lows with all this stuff sitting heavy in my heart, this thread and these people have just been wonderful. smile I just wanted to say thank you to all, and i hope i can give back all that you have given me.

Also glad DH is back, however he is sooo spoilt mostly by me blush he has 3 new screens for his computer, the man is insane!!

Oh no news from me, only that is soooooo bloody freeezing, i want it to be sunny!!! and to feel warm!!!

Bearface Mon 11-Mar-13 22:55:26

Yes, definitely Cookie - don't know where I'd be without you guys! Thanks everyone. I'll be trying my hardest to be positive hereon in. Can't wallow forever! Had a good chat with one of my friends today and that helped too.

There's a fair amount of snow here and it's still going. The council doesn't appear to have gritted either so there's been lots of accidents. Not looking forward to the journey into work tomorrow.

Redshoes56 Tue 12-Mar-13 04:49:38

Oh bear) - thanks and wine and hugs for you! It's OK to wallow a bit. Like *cookie said (so eloquently!), this is place for us to just let it all out. But keep your chin up. Doctors can do amazing things, and you will get your little one - if not on your own, then with a teeny bit of help.

Congrats on the job, Andie!

We've been having some heavy/serious conversations here, with DH sharing fears about having a baby and our lives changing. At the end of the day, we're still a-go - I don't think anyone is ever ready, you just have to jump in head first. Right?

Redshoes56 Tue 12-Mar-13 04:50:19

Oof, sorry for all the bad formatting above....

Bearface Tue 12-Mar-13 08:11:36

Yay! Snow day! May go back to bed for a bit . . . going to spend the day with Hilary Mantel in the warm. grin May graduate to an online workout using Youtube later to combat all the pity chocolate eaten yesterday.

Thanks Red. Glad your conversations with DH show you both want the same thing. I really don't think anyone is ever truly ready and even if you think you are, there will always be things that catch you by surprise. Go on - jump in!

bear not much to add to what others have said, but have some thanks and brew. I hope you get a bfp one way or another - did you start this Fred? If not, is it time for a new one and can that be good luck for you to start it?
No news here, the witch is gone and the cape is drying on the airer, so we're nearly ready for many many shaggings at Humpty Towers.
Hope everyone's staying warm!

Redshoes56 Tue 12-Mar-13 18:16:29

Humpty Towers! Ha ha ha... I love coming over here, always a good laugh. I especially need it with a tough weekend coming up.

This Friday marks a year since my brother-in-law passed. He took his life at 23 after what I have to assume was a tough bout of mental struggles. Time has healed some wounds, but this is still really difficult for DH, especially with the date looming.

We've actually discussed what a blessing a baby would be at this time, a new beginning for the whole family. His sudden death was what prompted me to finally throw the birth control pills in the trash in the first place -- "life's too short," all that. But it's not fair for us to put that kind of pressure on ourselves. Sigh. We've come this far, we'll get through the memorial service, and all this TTC nonsense, too. Onward and upward.

I had a wicked migraine this morning and so stayed home from work, but have proceeded to work pretty much all day anyway shock what else is new?! No snow here, but it is pretty rainy and dismal. Spring is just around the corner. Can't wait....

Bearface Tue 12-Mar-13 18:55:50

Oh Red - I'm so sorry to hear that. How absolutely terrible and tragic. I'm sorry for you and Mr Red. thanks It would be lovely for you to have your BFP now. I would happily give up my place in the queue for you if that was how it worked. Sending you sneaky hugs while no one's looking.

Thanks Humpty - no I didn't start this fred - I think Rock did and look where it got her! It's going to be a race to the start of the next fred although I'd hang back and tie my shoelace for Red Good luck with getting the cape back on Humpty.

I spent my snow day researching IVF and IUI on Youtube and I feel a lot less scared and angry about it all now. I watched one woman's 18 videos! But they really helped and she was so sweet - it was like watching a TV series. I didn't allow myself to skip forward to the end to see if she and her DH made it, so was nearly blubbering by the time I found out she was preggers with twins! A day well spent methinks. There's no crisps or snacks in the cupboard now though!

I'm about a day or two from ERTD. Did an IC and got a BFN. No huge surprise. Freezing my socks off here. That's all.

Redshoes56 Tue 12-Mar-13 20:31:39

No need for the queue swap although that's awfully sweet! Imagine if we get our BFPs at the same time and imagine if we both had twins? Shaggers-fred babies all over the place! Ahhhh! grin

Two of my best girlfriends (including the one who just had her little girl) got pregnant through IUI, and another via IVF. The IUI gals like to joke that they got knocked up by two women, since they both had female nurses. IVF is definitely more stressful and expensive, but I think it's all quickly forgotten when you've got that young one terrorizing the house making every day special!

I think it's just common now -- our bodies just haven't evolved to keep up with the times, women having babies later in life, or simply having more stress because we bust our bums at home and at work.

cookielove Tue 12-Mar-13 21:40:49

Hello all. I have a fab new phone. LOVE IT!!!

Its amazing all the different options available out there for getting a baby. My minds boggles confused

I really need to start taking folic acid blush slap me please

I also i am quite happy not to start the next fred although if push comes to shove i will, eek scary

Redshoes56 Tue 12-Mar-13 22:25:47

Take your folic acid, Cookie! Wash it down with wine if you must.

My cleaning lady (it's really the best money I spend on myself, period) was here today and she said, "You know, when you said you were home today, I thought for sure you were going to tell me you have morning sickness!" Apparently three other ladies she cleans for just got pregnant and she thinks she is "spreading the virus" around. I should stay home on Cleaning Tuesdays more often. Is that all I've been doing wrong?! grin

Bearface Wed 13-Mar-13 10:48:59

I'll second Red - hooya to you! Seriously, please take folic acid Cookie; not taking folic acid could mean you miscarry or the baby could have major problems. sad I'm taking the Pregnacare multivitamins which have the folic acid in them. Some people seem to react badly to them, but I've been fine.

Red - maybe your cleaning lady has a bit of a sixth sense? It's weird that you mention twins because that's been on my mind the last few days with the possibility of IVF. DH has twins on his side of the family, albeit his cousins, so not directly. Think I'd rather just have one, but beggars can't be choosers!

Also, Red you're right about the reasons for needing IVF and IUI and it being so common. I live near quite an affluent area and there are double buggies everywhere with twins and sometimes ones with triplets even! It could just be a coincidence of course! wink I remember though when twins were really rare and I knew one set of triplets. I see more and more in schools now too. Anyway, rambling on and don't know where I'm going with this, but thanks, again it makes me feel better knowing that potentially lots of other people have had IVF.

I'm feeling much more positive today. I just want to get the ball rolling with our referral now.

Cookie - I need a new phone. Do you mind me asking which one you have? I'm an absolute dinosaur when it comes to phones and will be getting my first contract in the next few months!!!!! blush Any suggestions of best phone to get would be really welcome.

AQuarkTooFar Wed 13-Mar-13 12:07:31

Hi all!

<passes round some homemade choclate & vanilla cake>

First up Cookie I struggle to remember to take my folic acid too! I have to keep it hidden in a cupboard as it says mum and bump all over it and I wouldn't it past my MIl to have a good snoop while I am not there!

Bear although I have very little advice to give you as I know nothing on the area can I just say you are odviously as very postive upbeat person! Only been trying a few months but if I evre come to be in your situation I hope I manage it half as well as you do! Oh and congrats on the new job!

Red hope you are ok and you migraine has cleared up!

Congrats on the job Andie and I hope the potty training is going well!

Big congrats to Brassica on your new arrival!

And a big hello to everyone else I have missed hope all the shagging is going well!

I am in the 2ww, due ERTD or BFP in a about a week. Only manage 3 shags this month as I have been very stressed out with a club I am involved. I am alos having trouble with one of my good friends being a total b***h and I hate my job! Constantly feeling very teary. Still holding out hope that one of those times was the magic time!

AQuarkTooFar Wed 13-Mar-13 12:09:19

Wow spelling mistakes and missed out words everywhere in that post! Apologies, hope you can all read it!

Rockchick1984 Wed 13-Mar-13 12:23:42

Quark I keep my vitamins next to the bed - first thing in the morning I check my phone blush and they are next to it so I remember to take them!

Red fingers crossed the cleaning lady is right!

Bear I love having an iPhone and it's very easy to use, DH has a Samsung Galaxy S3 but I'm not keen!

cookielove Wed 13-Mar-13 19:31:48

Ok I offically feel told off will be taking my folic acid from now on grin

bear I have a sansung note 2 which I totally adore however if your a complete novice with smart phones then I don't think it would be the best phone for you. My phone is a large phone, a small tablet.

I gad a sansung s2 before that which was very easy to use and more phone like, before that I had a BlackBerry torch.

What kind of phone are you looking for. ?

Bearface Wed 13-Mar-13 21:13:53

Sorry Cookie - it's only because we care about you and your yet-to-be bean! grin

Quark - why don't you just change the bottle to something else like a standard multi-vitamins and make sure you tell DH, then you can leave them wherever you like and if MIL takes them, then it's her own fault for not buying her own and for being so nosey!

Oh dear Cookie - DH has a Samsung Galaxy (- is that a Smart phone?) and I'm okay with using that. I like the idea of an iphone, but not sure funds will stretch that far. Hoping to get a deal when DH renews his contract soon, so I may not have that much choice.

I know I'm going to sound like an old lady here, so I may as well just put on my cosy toes and dust off the tea cosy too, but I'd like a phone that I can use to get onto the internet and use apps and things. (I'm actually giggling to myself as I write this in the middle of the gym on one of their PCs. grin) I don't think I want a Blackberry from what I've seen of them. I don't want a huge phone either so maybe a Samsung Note 2 is out.

Bearface Wed 13-Mar-13 21:19:21

BTW Quark - don't worry - 3 shags could do it! Some people manage it in one! Sorry you're having a bit of a rough time. I'd avoid the 'friend' and spend the time looking for a new job instead.

And thanks for saying I'm being postive about all the crapness. I don't feel particularly like I am, but you've made me think that I'm handling it better than I think I am. I guess I'm inclined to freak out first and then I go off and do tonnes of research and beg for info from more experienced Mumsnetters so that I can then feel a bit more in control of it all and a bit happier about it. It works for me anyhoo. Just wish I didn't have to do the depressing freak-out bit to start off with.

cookielove Wed 13-Mar-13 21:50:01

Quark my friend got up duffed with one try smile so it's very possible.

Bear nope i don't they a note is the phone for you. Yes you do want a smart phone they are the ones you are describing. If you don't get the latest iphone then it wouldn't be that expensive, as they only really hike up the price of the brand new ones.

Although most smart phones are easy to use. The uphold is probably one of the easiest.

Don't apologise I needed the telling off. I didn't realise how important folic avoid is. blush

cookielove Wed 13-Mar-13 21:52:37

That was meant to be iPhone not Uphold.

New phone blush

AQuarkTooFar Thu 14-Mar-13 10:12:45

Thanks everyone. bear I loves my iPhone 4S. Very easy to use! Well shaggers what are your plans for the weekend? Any poas action coming up soon?

notsoold Thu 14-Mar-13 12:05:47

Marking my place and saying HI to you all!!!!
Bear,Cookie, Quark Red, Humpty, and everyone else....sending love through my laptop!!!smile Do not give up, ladies...upwards and onwards (gosh it sounds like another "getting preggers" position doesn't it???

Sorry I have been missing! I was going to be a birth partner for a friend in beginning of April, but baba did not wait and after lots of stress for Mum and family baby Alex arrived and I was there!!! After all that, baby just wanted to feed and sleep and I got to hold him loads!!smile Second time I am someone birth partner but first time since ttc and I thought...OOMMGG it hurts!!!! But Mum was happy I was there and I am happy to help her and quite honoured to see another brand new person arriving!!! She almost broke my hand though!!smile

I booked a private scan on 22th March (will be 8 weeks then). I hope it will help my nerves...as anxiety seems to follow me. I am hoping that if everything is as it should be, the chances of MC will be low. MW booked for next Wednesday

cookielove Thu 14-Mar-13 18:57:01

Hello notso an early scan that sounds like a good plan smile

Please come back and let us know how it goes. Wow being someone's birth partner
must be so exciting and scary. And all those newborn cuddles <yummy>

Nothing to report from camp cookie grin

Bearface Thu 14-Mar-13 20:23:35

Oh wow Notso - that's an impressive thing to do! I think I'd be a bit scared that it would put me off completely!

Thank you everyone, particularly Cookie for the phone advice. I really need to go and look these things up.

No weekend plans for me apart from meeting a friend for quaffee and spending time with DH. smile

ERTD got me today. No surprise there though. I think I'll fall off my chair if I ever get a BFP! grin

Hello all! Back from sunny Swansea (was away there with work for a couple of days). Weekend plans include meeting two newborns and surreptitiously sniffing their heads and pretending they are mine and shopping.
Bear, nothing to add to phones advice, except I hate my old Android piece of crap, they just aren't as good as iPhones. I'm upgrading soon, so have been reading with interest. Also, I think bear or cookie or red def need to start the new Fred.
Hope everyone's well, cookie take your folic acid lovely, i got told that by the doc who took out my coil, is really important. Also, i think I read somewhere that Evening Primrose Oil is another good one to take. Loads of different advice floats around though!
wine for me i think - shitty bloody day at work, am on the point of resigning/flouncing, but luckily having v useful chats with colleagues and ex-boss, so surviving. xxxx

Redshoes56 Sat 16-Mar-13 05:14:39

Just popping in to say it is prime time and shags they are a-happenin'! grin I am feeling good about this month....

cookielove Sat 16-Mar-13 20:06:36

I am offically taking my folic acid and good news my dh I can shag with him on top. Yay I am soooo happy grin blush little things hey!!

cookielove Sat 16-Mar-13 20:07:08

I am offically taking my folic acid and good news my dh I can shag with him on top. Yay I am soooo happy grin blush little things hey!!

cookielove Sat 16-Mar-13 20:07:31

So happy I posted twice grin

Bearface Sat 16-Mar-13 20:41:47

Go Red and Cookie! Isn't that because your DH did his leg in a while back Cookie? If so, glad he's all recovered now.

cookielove Sat 16-Mar-13 21:22:42

bear he had a operation on his knee sad

AQuarkTooFar Mon 18-Mar-13 12:09:52

Morning shaggers! Hope you all had a lovely weekend shagging. No shagging here, spent all weekend with a sore tummy and feeling sick sad.

ERTD due here at some point between now and Thursday. Anyone else nearing the end of the 2ww? Any POAS action soon?

Its awful quiet out there?

Bearface Mon 18-Mar-13 18:04:08

I agree. It's spookily quiet Quark!

ERTD got me so no POAS action for a while. Yet ANOTHER friend just gave birth in the last couple of days, which is lovely and I'm not a bit envy

Nothing to report here. How's everyone else doing?

cookielove Mon 18-Mar-13 19:27:30

Evening all, is that spelt right it looks wrong. &#10003;

Not much to report here, had a horrible tightness in my tummy yesterday and today sad

Had some sad news about A friends ds who has been referred to GOSH today. sad sad but at least they might get some answers.

Hi cookie sorry to hear your sad news, but fx for your friend's DS. No news here from shag Humpty Towers - off to a conference tomorrow for a couple of days, but I ov'd over weekend, so timing is okay (fx anyway!)

Redshoes56 Tue 19-Mar-13 03:48:55

We have been awfully quiet, ladies - someone needs to start some commotion! Alas, I have no commotion to start. Pretty standard-issue stuff going on here. We made it through the memorial service this weekend (and I actually felt more comforted than sad, which is a good thing). Couple of romps this weekend, too; now we wait. I'm grateful to have a week off from class this week. Next week I start the final course of my MBA program. Graduation is right around the corner. The weather here is just gross, crunchy rain and freezing cold. Where is spring?

Whitetara Tue 19-Mar-13 16:29:10

hi everyone. I need some respite after a couple of months charting and feeling an obsession coming. love this thread as I need to chill out and stop stressing about whether my temp has jumped up. wishing you all loads of baby dust and shagging aplenty.

AQuarkTooFar Tue 19-Mar-13 16:30:38

Aw horrible news Cookie sad.

Glad to hear the Memorial service went well red.

What commotion can we start? Come on now shaggers think?!?

I am on CD33 today. the shorted cycle I have had is 28 and the longest is 34. Dont really feel like ERTD is coming but I think its just sneaking up on me! Roll on Thurs (CD35) when i will allow myself to test!

AQuarkTooFar Tue 19-Mar-13 16:31:38

Oh just about missed you there hiya Whitetara! Happy shagging!

Bearface Tue 19-Mar-13 16:42:33

That's sad Cookie, but at least he is going to the right place. I know a few people whose children have gone there and their treatment has been great, so fingers crossed for him.

I'll second *Quark', Red. I'm glad you felt comforted. thanks

Tara - I don't know about anyone else on the fred, but I just can't be bothered/don't have time to chart temps! I can just about get out of bed in the morning let alone stick a thermo in my fanjo or wherever else it's supposed to go! grin Happy shagging and talking about shagging. <Hands over a shiny new cape>

I'm STILL having loads of work ishoos, but the upshot is that I may be starting my new job earlier than thought, which could mean that if BFP ever comes out of hiding, I'll be much better placed. Trying now to sort out old job before accepting new earlier-than-expected job, but it's proving a bit of a hassle. Really hoping I'll be able to swing it my way and I can't wait to get to new job.

STILL need to go and research phones too!

Not sure how to start a commotion here. We need some people to be testing soon. I'm on ERTD so don't look at me! grin

Whitetara Tue 19-Mar-13 16:57:54

hi quack and bear. yeah the temping drove me mad as I kept waking in the night couldn't go back to sleep and just got stressed and after watching the this morning phone in stress needs to go. anyway I've banned myself from all tat.

cookielove Tue 19-Mar-13 18:53:16

Hello there [smiIe]

Yes sad news about my friend. But it is good news to as at least now they can get some answers.

No news from me and no commotion either. Although I can run around naked if that helps.

cookielove Tue 19-Mar-13 18:54:37

Sorry forgot to say hi to whitetara (waves manically)

Whitetara Tue 19-Mar-13 22:35:34

Hi Cookie [waves back]

Rockchick1984 Tue 19-Mar-13 23:12:02

Welcome Whitetara

Cookie sorry to hear about your friend, but like you say hopefully they will get answers soon. Must be scary though!

Red glad the memorial was comforting for you.

Bear fingers crossed for new job starting earlier! Any news on DH's tests or vein thingy?

I've got my 12 week scan on 8th April, feels ages away but having lovely pregnancy symptoms which I won't scare you with gross you out with share so am confident all is well. It was DS's birthday a few days ago so that was fun, think its going to take us all a few days to recover though as he has missed a lot of naps so isn't sleeping too well at night and is now overtired - means I don't get a good night's sleep either!!

cookielove Wed 20-Mar-13 12:46:01

Hello Rockchick glad to hear its all going well, 12 weeks yay, so you'll find out then when your due. So exciting grin

Bear such good news about the job it sounds complicated to me about sorting everything out, i wish you luck in your new adventure smile What phones have you been looking at?

Red glad everything went well with the memorial service. Graduation soon, yay for you.

Whitetara i'm with bear, i don't temp just shag but then i am very lazy

And yay it's spring today, i can feel a warm breeze on my skin and the sun is shining oh wait that was last year hmm <looks out of window bitterly>

Quark good luck for cd35 fingers crossed for you smile

Ok i have lost count this month i think i am on cd 19, now ladies i am sure you remember my cd were usually 28 but now seem to be 40 so i am still right in the middle of my month, so will have to whip the cape out tonight and surprise DH grin

Oh yeah i forgot to say my luffly Dh did such a sweet thing for me i am uber surprised, his work colleague was recycling some baby books and Dh asked if he could take some of them, so i now own a baby naming book, and three pregnancy books. Dh usually isn't that thoughtful especially when it comes to ttc. And he has been researching all the vitamins i should be taking to. smile

Now of course the down side of that is his boss now knows we are ttc [meh]

Bearface Wed 20-Mar-13 19:02:41

Aww Cookie - how sweet of your DH! Annoying that boss man(?) knows, but it's easier his boss knowing than yours for sure! You can be naked if you wish Cookie! Do you have streaker tendencies? wink Still haven't looked at any phones - sorry - am goingto have to wait now because of work thing too. Back to the PC it is.

Work thing has just been driving me mad today. Can't go into details here obvs, but needless to say I am a bit angry and hmm about it all. Oh well. Apart from anything else it has left me feeling quite knackered. Need a rest now.

Yes, Quark - good luck for CD 35 - let us know. . .

Rock - quick update. DH was referred to Urology who have now suggested he be referred him back to a fertility specialist, but GP has been off sick, so we now have to see a different GP before someone can then refer us to fertility clinic. Merry-go-round ahoy. Angry-go-round more like Just wish we could get on with it. Hmph. Glad to hear Baby Rock is developing nicely.

Tara - hope you don't mind me asking, but how long have you been TTC? Don't answer if you don't want though.

Bearface Wed 20-Mar-13 19:04:01

Sorry for the typos - feel exhausted!

Whitetara Wed 20-Mar-13 19:19:30

hi rock and huge congrats.
bear not ttc long. actually was quite reluctant when Dhaka took a risk in December. the one time that month. was amazed to find out pregnant just from that but after shock was really happy. until I started bleeding on cd31 and that was that. decided to chart after that to see if it has messed my cycles but has 7 day lp. the last cycle just finished was 9 days with vitamin b6. ttc those last two months but now wondering if the lp was an issue with the chemical. so in answer actively ttc for the past two cycles. have 2 ddband got pregnant first try. but I'm forty next week and anticipate not so easy this time.

the charting stressed me too much so now trying to be ambivalent (which is why I'm hanging out on ttc forums hmm )

Whitetara Wed 20-Mar-13 20:27:30

Dhaka - supposed to be dh
ddband - dd

It's hopeless trying to type from a phone (well mine anyway!)

Redshoes56 Wed 20-Mar-13 21:33:33

Hey tara - my lp is short too (10 days and the B6 didn't help me, it actually made me ovulate later and later so I stopped taking it). I've read so many stories from women with short lps that conceive and have healthy pregnancies, so I'm hanging in there. It's been awhile though with no results. I am hoping some easy progesterone therapy is all I need. Hope you aren't waiting long!

Rock love the updates. Keep 'em coming smile

Whitetara Wed 20-Mar-13 22:01:45

red how short are the short lps when the women are conceiving?

I've also heard about the late ovation and wonder about that toops although I think I've always been later anyway - day 19 recently and before dc1 around day 17. don't know whether to carry on with the b6 or just take the pregnacare conception...

Redshoes56 Thu 21-Mar-13 16:20:15

I've seen women post on message boards (not here, though) about conceiving with an lp as short as 5 days. Don't know how common/uncommon that is, though. Mine is usually about day 18, as late as day 24. This month it was a nice, normal day 15! But lp is always 10 days, no matter what. Unless this month is the exception. We shall see. 5 days post and counting....

Whitetara Thu 21-Mar-13 18:46:52

red I wonder what the outcomes of those pregnancies are as I'm worried about more chemicals...not that ill be taking any more early pregnancy tests....

Bearface Thu 21-Mar-13 19:00:32

Hi Tara - I think my LP is 12-14 days, but still no baby here . . . sorry, that's not of much use I know.

Someone else I know gave birth today. First baby had major problems and didn't leave hospital until 3 months, but this one is very healthy which is great. Another person moaning about being nearly due on evil FB. It's still really hard being completely pleased for other people though, when all I want is for it to be me. blush

On the plus side ERTD has been lighter and much less painful this month. Thought I was going to die last month! I wonder if it's the pregnacare vits, but I could get used to this!

Whitetara Thu 21-Mar-13 21:38:45

Bear, interesting what you say about the prenatal vits and doing something to your cycle. Agreed that it is so hard to be totally pleased when hearing others' news, when they have the thing that you want the most in the whole world. It's just not fair.

On the other hand, I'm thinking that not getting pregnant this coming month might not be a bad thing since I would be due around xmas, which would be, well, awkward. Not that that blase'-ness is likely to last.

One thing that I saw Zita West say, really hit the nail on the head, though. She said that it's the not knowing that makes it so hard. If a woman were to know that in x months she will be pregnant, she would be totally relaxed right now. But not knowing is stressful and so it's hard not to be anxious because each month there is that anticipation/anxiety of not knowing whether this month will be the month. This is part of the reason why I've decided to avoid charting as the anticipation was killing me and I'd be on my ff app all the time...

Bear how long have you been ttc?

AQuarkTooFar Fri 22-Mar-13 12:26:13

sad ERTD got me yesterday. That means my average cycle is 34 days. I wonder what that means for my lp.

Who said they were going to give up trying this month because they didn't want a due date at Christmas? I was also thinking this too but DH thinks I am being stupid! So we are going to keep shagging and knowing my luck it will go and happen this month! [hopeful smile]

<wanders off to find more chocolate to help with ERTD pains>
Bears pregnacare vits would probably be more helpful

Redshoes56 Fri 22-Mar-13 14:56:54

Boo, sorry to hear about ERTD quark. Enjoy that chocolate guilt-free with some wine.

If I get pregnant this cycle, my dandy calendar app says my due date with be December 7. I am OK with that. I'll take whatever I can get, honestly! It would be nice to be off on maternity leave during the holidays, actually.

I had wondered at one point if the prenatal vits were doing something to my cycle. My pharmacy filled my script wrong last month and gave me 20 instead of 30 (they're a bit pricier than the over the counters, but I like the extra folic acid). I ran out at an inopportune time so missed a few days of vit taking before I could refill. And wouldn't you know, this is the first month I ovulated at a nice, normal day 15....

6 DPO here, and feeling absolutely, positively...normal.

Redshoes56 Fri 22-Mar-13 14:57:37

WOULD be, not with be. smile

cookielove Fri 22-Mar-13 15:34:33

Bear i am a streaker at heart, luckily DH hey wink

Oh Quark sad for you!! Stoopid ERTD angry

Erm so two things:

1) I've been taking my folic acid <preens> but cause my and Dh are lets face it, broke i bought the cheap tesco's own for £1 a bottle shock so it really is just folic acid and nothing else although i have other vitamins that i could take to, is this ok or should i really be buying the main brand stuff?

2) Why is it so important to take folic acid at meal times?

Redshoes56 Fri 22-Mar-13 18:28:59

I think the whole "take with food" thing is because it can cause upset stomach. Maybe the food also helps the body absorb it? I don't know, I am a rebel and take my vit before bed. It's the only way I remember to take it. Brush teeth, take vit, go to bed. It's better than not taking it at all!

Bearface Fri 22-Mar-13 23:41:26

Tara - we've been TTC 18 months now. Sigh. I guess it's been a bit on and off though as not all of that has been actively trying. We were 'not preventing' for quite a while, but as I've since worked out that there are really only 14-16 days a month when we can actively try anyway, and I've been using OPKs more recently it seems like we've always been on a losing streak, otherwise statistically it would have been more than likely to have happened by now. I know there's a lot more than luck involved though, before anyone says!

Ha ha Cookie - lucky DH! I think taking 'frolic' acid at meal times is important for absorption as Red said. I don't think you need to buy the main brand of stuff, but I am just trying to make sure I have the right balance of vits as I'm convinced I am deficient in some areas. I must be as I get things like cold sores easily, which is often caused by a deficiency in certain amino acids and a virus. I find if I take the amino acids in tablet form, I don't get the cold sores. There's other things I've observed about my health too which is orobably down to deficiencies, so I'm only taking the vits to make sure I have all bases covered really.

I'm with you Red - I'll take what I can get as well. BUT mine would be due 19th December if I conceived this month - yikes! Would still take it over nothing though!

Redshoes56 Sat 23-Mar-13 14:16:37

Morning, ladies - what's on tap this weekend? We've declared "date night" for today but haven't quite figured out what we're doing. I'm ok with pizza delivery and watching college basketball, frankly. We'll see how things shape up smile

Today is 7 DPO and I still feel entirely normal. I would love this to be our month but I'm trying not to think about it too much. Been drinking, eating sushi and just generally misbehaving like I do every month - you aren't pregnant until you pee on the stick, that's my motto. grin

Redshoes56 Sat 23-Mar-13 18:19:18

....and here comes the spotting angry. I won't sit here and pretend it's implantation bleeding. Annoyed, mostly because I am in a bit of denial about the fact that my body is betraying me month after month. Just told DH I want us to go to the specialist if this is still the story in June. Sigh.

cookielove Sat 23-Mar-13 19:40:18

Hello hello hello. I've decided just to take the folic when I remember have some sitting on the sofa and another bottle in the car. At least that way I'm taking it and not worrying whether I am eating or not smile

Red sad I am finding it hard to, each month when ertd comes. Mmmmm got any cake to make yourself feel better.

My mum had fertility issues before she had my sister, I have that playing in the back of my mind that I may to.

My friend went on maternity leave on fri, I really wanted to be pregnant before she get had the baby blush silly really

Bearface Sat 23-Mar-13 21:35:27


Cookie, I read on a different thread on here that you can't overdose on folic acid, which might be of help to know. Apparently your body flushes out the excess. Glad you're onto it.

I guess I've kind of gone the other way now and I'm not expecting a BFP. I always expect ERTD so I'm not so disappointed when it appears. I'm not recommending it as a coping strategy though.

Two people I know had babies this week so I'm feeling it too Cookie. I really thought I'd have at least one if not two children by now. That was the plan anyway. I guess it just wasn't to be. There's still time though.

cookielove Sat 23-Mar-13 21:50:51

bear that sounds like a good coping strategy smile and if it works for you thats great. Endless disappointment can be so tiring.

Good to know I can't overdose grin I think you can overdose on maccy d's though blush

I take the Pregnacare vits when I remember - although I do find they make me very, erm... windy. Charming. I talked to a doctor friend once who said you can't overdose on any vit (when not preggers) as you flush it out, but you have to beware of Vit A when pregs (you'd need to take a lot to have too much though).

Not much happening this weekend for me, in 2WW, no symptoms at all though, and only DTD four times over the ov week, so v unlikely to be my month. Bloody work getting in the way of me wearing the shag cape.

notsoold Mon 25-Mar-13 07:39:44

Bear....I had the same strategy and for me was the only way to cope with ertd arriving. Fx for you xxxxx

Pregnacare does not agree with me so I go for other brands..

Remember the shagging as much as possible??? According to the scan last Friday ( then 9 weeks) I ovulated later then my apps told me ( more then a week later. I rememver using preseed because of ahem being a bit dry down at the station(tmi sorry) but not to help conceiving.... I am trying to say...don't give up , shag away ladies!!!!

Back to lurking smile

Redshoes56 Tue 26-Mar-13 03:09:47

"Down at the station" ha ha! We love when you pop by, notso.

Boobs are killing me; if I weren't spotting I'd swear I was pregnant. Third day of it...ERTD around the corner...ugh.

Only thing I've been overdosing on over here is jelly beans.

notsoold Tue 26-Mar-13 10:34:16

Oooooo jelly beans!!!!!
Love them!!!!

cookielove Tue 26-Mar-13 20:36:59

Hello all, well news is that ERTD came and it was on day 23, so the whole 40 day cycle seems to have disappeared sad confused not really sure what to do now.

frogchops Wed 27-Mar-13 07:55:39

Hello. De lurking to say I'm glad 'frolic' acid lives on way beyond my graduation!! grin
And, I wouldn't worry about other stuff....my mw said stuff the pregnacare its just expensive branding that you're paying for, as long as you're on folic acid up to 12 wks you're fine. I've only ever took it on its own (my dr prescribed it in high dose when I saw him at 6wks) that's still all I take now and I'm 15wks on Friday! Back to lurking.... Gives the unicorn a little pat....

Bearface Wed 27-Mar-13 10:28:39

Good to hear you're getting on well Notso and Frog. Always lovely to hear from the grads. Great one-liner Notso - haw haw!

Sorry about ERTD and the ensuing confusion about cycles Cookie. Were you on the pill before? And if so, when did you stop taking it? It can take a while for cycles to settle down after coming off it. I don't know, but maybe you ought to go and see your GP about the irregular cycles? Maybe others on here will have more experience and/or better advice.

We're on ov week this week, so obvs got my cape on. We're trying to dtd EOD though so that Mr Bear's swimmers have time to recuperate in between gos. Rather annoyingly we set the alarm to wake up early this am to dtd, but it didn't go off!!! So now I'm worried we'll miss ov because DH has a prior appointment this pm so won't be able to dtd until about 10pm. Hmph.

I made the mistake of going on evil FB again today and even more stupidly started thinking of how many people I know have had babies or got pregnant since we started trying and it's about 20. envy I'm back at square one again thinking why can't it be me? At the risk of sounding like a three-year-old, it's so unbloodyfair. I don't know why I do this to myself. At the same time, I know I'll be fine again later. It's such an emotional rollercoaster TTC. Grumble, grumble.

Hope everyone is well. x

Redshoes56 Wed 27-Mar-13 15:17:33

Bear it IS unbloodyfair, so shout away - this is where you can. FB has the tendency to get people worked up, whatever the topic! You know, I also get worked up thinking about all those irresponsible women out there who don't want to deal with the their children, when there are amazing, caring women who have so much to offer and simply can't get pregnant. ARG. Not fair.

Alright, calming down. ERTD has made me a bit of a crazy women this month. As soon as that's over and done with, we're back on the shag train. Another cycle, hopefully as school winds down, so too will the stress, and perhaps that will help the cause!

Redshoes56 Wed 27-Mar-13 15:35:58

Gosh, hope that didn't across as me saying your friends are irresponsible! Totally separate, random, rambling thought.... <slinks away sheepishly>

Bearface Wed 27-Mar-13 15:40:03

Not at all Red - it's good to know I'm not alone in my feelings of angst!

cookielove Wed 27-Mar-13 20:43:41

Yes Bear it is so bloody unfair i wish i could shout it from the roof tops!!

I was on the depo for just under 2 years but i came off it Nov 2010 (accidently), i eventually bled in April 2011, then came back more regularly by September 2011 i didn't chart it but i felt like it was coming more regularly/monthly after that i really only started checking in September 2012, after my wedding grin

I spoke, well facebooked my sister last night (she lives in Canada) about it she is pregnant at the moment and has a 1year old smile and she said that she has unusual cycle lengths anything between 24 -65 (wow) and has a short lp, some of what she was saying rang true with me so i feel a bit less worried and confused. I heart my sister smile although its times like this when i wish she was here.

coffeewineandchocolate Thu 28-Mar-13 09:36:48

Morning ladies grin. Can i join in too please? I've been lurking on another thread but its so hard to follow with the measurements and lucti something! I justwant have lots of sex and get up the duff!

Please can i join? Pretty please? grin

essie81 Thu 28-Mar-13 11:39:58

Please may I join in too? grin

Also a newbie and baffled by all the jargon on other threads and feeling a bit overwhelmed. Ertd here at the moment, but it was noticeably late this time for first time since coming off the pill in Dec (after 17 years on the pill - oops, how did 17 years go by without me noticing?!), which freaked the hell out of me and gave me kick up the arse required to make some effort ttc otherwise another 17 years will pass!

Doing well so far, this week, I've taken folic acid every day, I've had fruit for breakfast every day and no wine but am going out for ONE cocktail tonight pre cinema as a reward!

Happy Easter everyone!

cookielove Thu 28-Mar-13 16:06:56

OOOh hello 2 newbies at once yay grin

Essie i've been on this thread for a good few months and still the acronyms baffle me sometimes blush

coffee yes yes to lots of sex and up duffing grin

Welcome all <waves manically>

Redshoes56 Thu 28-Mar-13 17:06:32

Welcome coffee and essie! This is a fun group, no drama or baffling jargon. grin

coffeewineandchocolate Thu 28-Mar-13 17:30:45

Thank you! I guess i should tell you a bit more about me... I already have one 26 month old ds. Last time we didn't ttc we got drunk on holiday and jsed lots during the week of the month we usually avoided so the concept is very new! I have been on the pill and implanon from after ds was born until early Feb but came off due to bad side effects (there afs a month). Once off we decided we may as well ttc grin.

Ideally we wouldn't get bfp until June (better financially) but you never can plan these things/guess how long it will take!

coffeewineandchocolate Thu 28-Mar-13 17:33:42

Ooh i left out the most important bit- currently on ertd as of yesterday so will be aiming for much jsing next weekend :-)

Bearface Thu 28-Mar-13 18:33:14

Hi Essie and Coffee! Welcome. Nice to meet you Coffee. Thanks for coming over to check us out Essie!

Yay for no jargon apart from what we make up and yay for just shagging we're all at it! Here are your shagging capes Coffee and Essie <hands over shiny new ones> Wear them with pride!

Cookie - glad your sister has been able to reassure you. I'm sure that cycles will just take time to sort themselves out then and/or you maybe ust have irregular cycles which isn't a massive problem apart from not necessarily knowing when you are oving; however, if you just shag all the time then it may not actually matter anyway! grin

essie81 Thu 28-Mar-13 19:20:30

Thanks bearface for pointing me in this direction grin ooohh thanks, lovely cape, just my size.

Ertd has left the building today so I should be getting some wear out of it very soon!

essie81 Thu 28-Mar-13 19:25:27

Ps <waves back> at cookie and other lovely welcoming jsers!

notsoold Thu 28-Mar-13 23:07:53

Hi coffee and essie!!!!

Enjoy your capes and js away!!!!

Happy Easter everybody!!!!

I am still lurking here as always felt at home...please do not throw me away yet!!!!

<waves> to new JSers. ERTD due on Sunday for me (how nice, instead of a choc egg), but no symptoms yet. We shall see. Happy Easter everyone!

AQuarkTooFar Fri 29-Mar-13 14:54:39

Hello newbies and a happy Easter to every one! grin.

Shagging starts again in the Quark household this weekend! ERTD was baaad this time, fingers crossed for no more (for a while)!

Also joined weight watchers online this week. I weighed myself and almost died of shock. Probably why we have had no BFP yet. sad Hoping it helps!