Elderberry Pavlovas And The Eternal Sausage of Wang (Part 4): a frightfully good thread for the over-30s TTC their first baby.

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viviennewestwould Fri 25-Jan-13 18:58:59

Over here, sausage-wangers!

2cats222 Fri 25-Jan-13 19:02:04

Amazingly

Boodle9 Fri 25-Jan-13 19:05:09

Helloooooo! I was merrily chuntering away to myself on the old thread. I'm here now on the first sausage shuttle I could board.

2cats222 Fri 25-Jan-13 19:05:31

Wankbollocks I have sausage fingers on iPhone... 2nd attempt... Amazingly chuffed at sausage wanging in the name...so tempted to steal a variance for my nickname...

2cats222 Fri 25-Jan-13 19:08:23

And it seems according to the daily fail we are no longer the minority... daily_fail_mums_over30

viviennewestwould Fri 25-Jan-13 19:24:44

Yes, but in the same article it said that, out of 724,000 births last year, 30,000 involved women over 40. They tried to imply this was a really healthy number but I felt sick and fed up sad

happylass Fri 25-Jan-13 19:24:49

Hello!! <marks spot on shiny new sausage themed thread>

2cats222 Fri 25-Jan-13 19:28:54

Right <deep breath> here goes pissing you all off especially Viv with some weird speculation/symptom spotting that will amount to nothing.
Sorry. Oh and TMI alert. What a beautiful way to start a new thread! Normal cycle 35 days, this cycle O due day of wedding (hence potential to O late due to immense stress but don't know as wasn't temping or using OPKs). LOTS of bedroom shenanigans pre and daily post potential O day. Lots of nice "symptoms" from 10 to 12 days post 'O'. CD34 start AF. BUT have now been bleeding 8 days, day 1-2 very light and red but since has been barely more than brown/pink spotting (max half a lite tampon in 8 hours, or without anything only noticeable when I go to the loo). Normal AF is red regular flow for 5 days with no variance. Am contemplating POAS (could I be Thislady ) or that something is wrong <panics> (err potentially due to some ahem rough sex blush ) My "symptoms" (sorry Viv) were mostly bloating (stomach still hard and big) and itching and spots on my back (still got those beauties) so nothing specific to pregnancy. But never had a period like this in my life. Help!! <re-reads post, admits sounds like a crazy lady, posts, then runs away never to return to see scathing comments of sausage wangers>

2cats222 Fri 25-Jan-13 19:30:27

viv that's a much better chance than the lottery!!! I honestly thought that was a big number <slinks back to corner with tail between legs>

2cats222 Fri 25-Jan-13 19:31:53

Because 600,000 of those are the 16 year old virgins remember...

viviennewestwould Fri 25-Jan-13 19:39:57

First of all, what the fuck are you doing on SoulCysters?? Are they all black women suffering from polycystic ovarian syndrome?

The woman you are talking about probably experienced late implantation (post 12DPO) and that was why she bled. Maybe not. The only way you can be sure is to POAS.

retroelement Fri 25-Jan-13 19:54:56

hello, just popping up to confusingly continue the discussion from the old thread and say that like Aquarius, I also get sore boobs starting a couple of dpo and the cycle I don't get sore boobs is the cycle I'll be expecting the BFP. I'm currently on cd33 with AF due on Sunday/Monday, and am already pretty sure I am out for this month.

2cats222 Fri 25-Jan-13 20:03:55

Sorry to hear that retro

Viv blame google, I am not that into black women with PCOS promise! Anyway thanks for giving me instructions to POAS, neg, as expected. So if not pregnant, am i dying?? <reaches for wine>

viviennewestwould Fri 25-Jan-13 20:29:35

Retro, the only time I would ever pay attention to a 'symptom' is if I went to the toilet for a shit and a baby fell out.

SidneyBristow Fri 25-Jan-13 20:35:03

Hey wangers,

DH is glaring at me bc I'm supposed to be watching a DVD with him, but oh well.

Yep Viv we're off tomorrow up North, but it's his family involved, not mine sad (Scottish smiley in an attempt to mix in). Have been v homesick lately for my family back in the US. It should be a fun time, but less than ideal in the TTC department.

I'm a huuuuuuge symptom spotter, at least I was pre-probable-MMC. Before AF came that time, I felt ...different. Very painful boobs, slightly nauseated at all times, constantly smelling things nobody else could, cripplingly tired, terrible backache in my lower back and a very weird, dull ache in my pelvis. It was categorically different than any other feeling I've had before or since, period-wise.

I try not to do it; I know it's crushing to get your hopes up and then realize it's another cycle down the pan. But it is a teensy bit encouraging to feel your body doing odd things, kind of like it's waking up, getting ready for something big.

*Must admit I'm in a v optimistic mood these last few days; found out a good friend's dad has beaten pancreatic cancer, so am feeling like anything's possible

Have a great night, ladies! Fling those sausages with abandon; it's Friday!

viviennewestwould Fri 25-Jan-13 20:40:03

You do realise none of us will ever hear the name Vera Wang without snotting ever again.

viviennewestwould Fri 25-Jan-13 20:41:47

2cats, darling, you are not dying...have you tried pissing on a sausage?

Pipbin Fri 25-Jan-13 22:14:08

Evening Ladies. Lovely new thread.
Well, off to view two houses tomorrow. Hubby is determined not to like either of them so I'm going to have to try and talk him round.

10dpo here, interestingly I have no spotting, but obviously this undoubtedly has much more to do with the lap and dye that actually having the spotting problem cured. I just want to get this AF done and out of the way so I can get back on with ttcing.

Hi all, marking my place. Am too boring and weary to even attempt to say anything good so just lurking from my sausage shuttle.

captainmoll Fri 25-Jan-13 22:49:51

<swings in on rigging>

SAUSAAAAAGE HOOOOOO!!!!!!

Just getting my nautical kicks.

<flicks cocktail sausages at everyone>
<exits>

twinklestar2 Fri 25-Jan-13 22:57:11

Marking my place.

<chucks a sausage at Viv and runs off>

Aquarius1 Fri 25-Jan-13 23:34:03

[beams with pride at new thread name]

hey retro sorry to hear you suffer the same ladylump issues....hope your pre-af-ness isn't too miserable for you...

thunder what's a sausage shuttle? does it take you to sausage-land?

2cats hope you work out what's going on - i'd be driving myself mad too if I was you

Bunnygirlie Sat 26-Jan-13 00:00:46

Sorry peeps been out for birthday curry, I see you have already started without me wink

Room for a little un? Tis my birthday after all smile

MotherOfCleo Sat 26-Jan-13 00:08:19

oy oy savaloy...sorry, couldnt help myself. Just marking my little spot on the sausage shuttle. grin

<realises viv's bratwurst will be more than a match for my tesco finest chipolata and runs off to find something a bit more, how to put it, chippendale stripper sized wink >

happylass Sat 26-Jan-13 08:24:44

So AF showed up this morning a whole day late (am never ever late). Kinda got my hopes up a teeny tiny bit yesterday too. Was my last hope of getting upduffed before I hit 35. Fuckety fuck fuck fuck angry. Why is this so hard grrr!

SidneyBristow Sat 26-Jan-13 08:25:47

Ahh there goes my calm, cool collectedness - sending out the brat signal (weak attempt at sausage joke), HELP!

CBFM says I'm still at deacon LOW even though I'm CD 12 - is this normal?

I'm pissed at it bc it told me I was Cd 11 when I first got up, and no test was needed. Now I've gone to the bathroom, and it has changed it's mind.

Grrrrrrr

Ps happy bday Bunny!

Bunnygirlie Sat 26-Jan-13 09:51:08

Thanks!

I guess mother nature didn't get my birthday list, instead of a baby she bought me .... (drumroll please) yes you've guessed it she bought me ovary ache and AF [angy]

happylass Sat 26-Jan-13 10:05:27

Happy Birthday Bunny. Have a lovely day!

Sorry about AF. I got the same this morning sad. At least you can have a few birthday wine

happylass Sat 26-Jan-13 10:33:43

Oh and to top it all off my phone just started playing some weird fanfare music and I'm like wtf confused. There's only a message on there from my iPeriod app saying "Period 1 day late. Pregnant?". Talk about taking the piss!
<hurls phone across room>

viviennewestwould Sat 26-Jan-13 11:05:22

[rubs sausage-inflicted wound delivered by the surprisingly violent Twinkle]

Captain grin (you always make me grin)

Hey, Sidney, your symptoms, constantly smelling things nobody else could, cripplingly tired, terrible backache in my lower back, I have those all the time due to giving up smoking and being fucking old.

Pip, whassup with your hubby? Doesn't he want to move? I love viewing houses especially if there are items worthy of stealing

Aquarius the Sausage Shuttle is indeed a sausage-inspired means of aviation, shaped like a phallus, with a destination called Sausage-Wangers Paradise. The Sausage Shuttle is not to be mistaken for the Sausage Shuffle; a dance involving a conga line of Elderberry Pavlovas shuffling around the room wanging the person in front with a sausage.

Happy Birthday, Bunny!!! [drapes string of sausages like a sash around Bunny's neck]

Mother, laughing my head off grin

Happy, it is particularly torturous to get your period late (mine was two days last month). I'm so sorry, love. Sorry about yours, too, Bunny [runs off to find more robust sausage with which to beat off approaching AFs]

Sidney, ignore the shit CBFM, it is probably having a mid-life crisis. At CD12 everyone should be shagging (except for me and my floppy-schlonged lover).

I am off to Sausage-Wangers Paradise for lunch and will probably stay for the evening if there are enough of you to join in the Sausage Shuffle. See you there!

twinklestar2 Sat 26-Jan-13 11:37:29

Happy birthday bunny!

So sorry she got you happy sad

Sidney what day do you usually OV? It's prob worth dtd tonight just in case.

2cats222 Sat 26-Jan-13 12:46:18

Happy Birthday Bunny

Just made myself very angry browing a first cycle TTC thread where 4 people got BFP's on their 1st cycle. Fuckers. (And congratulations and all that you lucky bastards)

viviennewestwould Sat 26-Jan-13 13:03:14

2cats, reading a TTC first cycle thread is tantamount to self-flagellating with a giant bratwurst. Stop it.

Aquarius1 Sat 26-Jan-13 13:19:03

I second what viv said 2cats step away from that thread

Happy birthday bunny and commiserations you and happy re af-ness

Viv thanks for clearing that up re the sausage shuttle / shuffle wink so next time I need a telling off via the medium if sausage I'll get shuffling then....

Aquarius1 Sat 26-Jan-13 13:19:58

The medium of sausage

Darn sausage fingers

<dribbles on self with hunger at all this sausage talk>

Happy birthday bunny!

Boodle9 Sat 26-Jan-13 17:21:51

G'day, sausage-wanging virtuosos. Chortling away at 'sausage hoooooooo!' and doing the 'sausage shuffle'! grin at Captain and Viv!

2cats - what on earth were you thinking? Back out of that TTC first cycle thread, shut the door and double-lock it behind you for good measure.

Happy birthday Bunny. I hope you are able to have a good day, despite AF trying to spoil the fun. She's the sausage-wanger's nemesis.

Bunnygirlie Sat 26-Jan-13 19:10:57

Thanks ladies! I intend on having a few [Wine] tonight, will give booze up tomorrow!

happy that is one evil app, I use it too but have only been early since using it!

Got few friends round tonight so shall leave you to it, I did some cocktail sausages in your honour!

MotherOfCleo Sat 26-Jan-13 20:25:01

<returns with full cumberland sausage whirl, fully prepared for sausage wanging battle.....and as I like cumberland sausage it doubles as a sneaky snack too, bonus> grin

I'm sorry happy oh an no good can come from that iphone app, damn thing needs to catch a virus asap! hmm

I was all positive and hopeful that this was the month but <warning symptom spotting....viv look away! and if you dont look away please dont tell me off > yesterday I went to my usual bowka gym class and had to run to the loo half way through as I honestly thought I felt AF way too early thankfully it was just heaps of CM, but when I got home I had deep pinky brown when i wiped and a small clot....that cannot be a good sign sad
I'll wait an test an hope but it burst my bubble a bit.

MotherOfCleo Sat 26-Jan-13 22:49:32

geez, my fella turns 27 tomorrow and after being asleep on the sofa for 2 and a half hours he's gone to bed.....what a crazy cat I bagged myself grin

captainmoll Sat 26-Jan-13 23:47:07

You freaky bunch of tele-hormonising mind-controllers. I'm synching with you all - AF turned up 5 days early today! An unheard of 26 day cycle! I've never had one so short!
I totally blame Viv's reckless bratwustery. wink

Not that I'm bothered since we're not allowed to make babies at the moment anyway on account of surgery.

Happy birthday Bunny!
Mother, still fx for you..

captainmoll Sun 27-Jan-13 00:01:17

Also just spent several hours with a lovely group of old friends - two babies present and one due in 2 weeks - and I did not cry.
Do I get a lollipop for being brave?

Bunnygirlie Sun 27-Jan-13 00:20:37

captain very brave, no lollipop though, how about some thanks

Another cycle buddy, yay!

I think it's about time for a list, I love lists, an update list of who is where in their cycle etc...

Bunnygirlie Sun 27-Jan-13 00:23:38

CD2, 9th cycle - Bunny, just 33 (eek), married, have 2 furry babies and work in a boring office job.

retroelement Sun 27-Jan-13 07:32:24

retroelement, age 35, cd35 (AF due tomorrow), cycle 6.

Up ridiculously early for no reason.

Soph80 Sun 27-Jan-13 07:46:30

retro - me too, 6.30 this morn! Perhaps our bodies are practising for all our early baby starts!

happylass Sun 27-Jan-13 08:41:54

Morning ladies. Apologies for the ranting yesterday. Feeling so much more positive today. Probably due to the copious amounts of vino consumed last night grin. Nice to see we have a few more cycle buddies. Captain I have a 26 day cycle too! Adding myself to the list....

retroelement, age 35, cd35 (AF due tomorrow), cycle 6.
CD2, 9th cycle - Bunny, just 33 (eek), married, have 2 furry babies and work in a boring office job.
Happylass 34 (but not for much longer boohoo) CD2 of cycle 6. AF due Feb 21st

MotherOfCleo Sun 27-Jan-13 08:42:37

captain thats a seriously short one! I had a 35 day followed by a 25 day before, really annoying! sad Its the reason I started using OPKs as we dtd at the totally wrong time on the 25 day month. So frustrating! At least you didnt have to wait for the old boot to arrive, a new month has started, I have high hopes for you this month smile

MotherOfCleo, 29, ttc#1, month 4, bfp due 1 feb (fx)

Soph80 Sun 27-Jan-13 08:48:14

Happylass - ranting is totally acceptable here!!!! smile

Adding myself:

Sophie80, 33 ttc#1, month 19, AF due next week (not sure of date as some scumbag has nicked my phone!)

viviennewestwould Sun 27-Jan-13 10:03:00

[hands Captain a sausage instead of a lollipop]

Viv, 41 (fuck off!) 5DPO, 11th cycle since mmc, champion sausage-wanger, nice tits.

Bunnygirlie Sun 27-Jan-13 10:09:47

Yes yes yes let's have some random facts about you lovely ladies too!

Aquarius1 Sun 27-Jan-13 10:23:13

Aquarius, 31, cycle [think its 10 now] 5ish dpo, af due 4 feb-ish, lazy so-and-so who's still in bed whilst typing this.

soph hello- are you new or have I missed something? Tell us about yourself?

Bunnygirlie Sun 27-Jan-13 10:29:35

Bunny, just 33 (eek), CD2, cycle 9, married, have 2 furry babies and work in a boring office job.
MotherOfCleo, 29, ttc#1, month 4, bfp due 1 feb (fx)
Sophie80, 33 ttc#1, month 19, AF due next week (not sure of date as some scumbag has nicked my phone!)
Aquarius, 31, cycle [think its 10 now] 5ish dpo, af due 4 feb-ish, lazy so-and-so who's still in bed whilst typing this. 
Happylass 34 (but not for much longer boohoo) CD2 of cycle 6. AF due Feb 21st
Viv, 41 (fuck off!) 5DPO, 11th cycle since mmc, champion sausage-wanger, nice tits.

2cats222 Sun 27-Jan-13 11:14:53

Added myself....

Bunny, just 33 (eek), CD2, cycle 9, married, have 2 furry babies and work in a boring office job.
MotherOfCleo, 29, ttc#1, month 4, bfp due 1 feb (fx)
Sophie80, 33 ttc#1, month 19, AF due next week (not sure of date as some scumbag has nicked my phone!)
Aquarius, 31, cycle [think its 10 now] 5ish dpo, af due 4 feb-ish, lazy so-and-so who's still in bed whilst typing this.
Happylass 34 (but not for much longer boohoo) CD2 of cycle 6. AF due Feb 21st
Viv, 41 (fuck off!) 5DPO, 11th cycle since mmc, champion sausage-wanger, nice tits.
2cats222, newlywed won't shut up about it & 31, CD10 of cycle 7

2cats222 Sun 27-Jan-13 11:17:01

One for the sausage wangers... I genuinely saw a comedian last night called Phil WANG I am not joking!! www.avalonuk.com/artists/view/120
He was fucking brilliant

2cats222 Sun 27-Jan-13 11:30:15

And (I know you old timers will have seen these before) but these help prove all the POAS and observing everything you wipe is worth it....

General getting pregnant stats vs stats for those charting CM/BBT (in bold);
1st month 30% pregnant vs 38% pregnant
By 3 months 59% pregnant vs 68% pregnant
By 6 months 80% pregnant vs 81% pregnant
By 12 months 85% pregnant vs 92% pregnant

viviennewestwould Sun 27-Jan-13 13:01:04

MOTHEROFCLEO IS AN INTERLOPER 'COS SHE'S NOT EVEN 30 YET!! [chucks sausage at Mother's head for being such a nubile, young wench]

2cats, I hate your statistics, they do not apply to me. A 41 year-old has only a 5% chance of conceiving each month. In 1.5 years, when I am 43, my chances of conceiving drop to 1% each cycle [runs off to kill oneself]

The good news is I have just come back from church where I was reminded once again that Jesus loves me and there are greater things in life than squeezing a brat out of your vagina, having it hanging off your tit for twelve months and then being hated by the evil bastard from the age of thirteen grin

Aquarius1 Sun 27-Jan-13 13:20:15

viv I'm so glad to hear your/Jesus's perspective on things wink I skipped my church this morning for a lie in and brunch with oh (I go to an evangelical /fairly happy clappy C of E here in Yorkshire) so will contemplate your thought for the day instead

Soph80 Sun 27-Jan-13 13:31:01

2cats - what about by 19 months lol?

Had a lovely, calming pilates class today only to return to find AF has reared her ugly face! Looks like round 2 of clomid starts tomorrow hmm

viviennewestwould Sun 27-Jan-13 13:49:34

Aquarius!! I, too, go to an evangelical C of E (no clapping though, or handling serpents, or speaking gobbledegook). I am a terrible Christian but trying to follow Jesus' teachings smile

Soph, sorry about AF. Remind me - were you ovulating before being prescribed Clomid?

happylass Sun 27-Jan-13 13:53:09

As if the "I got pregnant the 1st month of TTC" threads aren't bad enough. There's now one for women who got pregnant after being sterilised. Seriously!?!

2cats222 Sun 27-Jan-13 14:14:02

Happy I hope you threw some sausages at said woman's head

Soph sorry about AF

Aquarius - a fellow Yorkshire lass eh? I am now an honourary Southerner (not by choice) but hope to move back 'oop North' someday when i find the strength to drag kicking and screaming husband up there

Viv Sausage wanging taken like a man for pissing you off with non applicable stats (I am pretending they apply to me too but being as I am not 21 they don't)

Anyone got any motivation tips for me? House looks like a bomb has hit despite lots of hidying (shoving stuff in cupboards) and I am too lazy to do anything about it argh

Aquarius1 Sun 27-Jan-13 14:44:08

viv serpent handling?? We've had a donkey in once (for the nativity) ...Don't think actual clapping goes on much (apart from for the kids' worship) but there's a bit of hand waving /guitars/drums/Christian rock songs that sound like U2 songs.... I too think I'm doing fairly awful job of being Xn (and not in a fake modest sort of way) -at least we're honest with ourselves about it.

2cats this isn't something I share with a lot of people but this might motivate you- I cleared out a room that we don't use much last autumn and found quite a few carpet bugs on the floor and under things. not harmful and apparently v common, but unsightly &can eat through carpet -regular cleaning/tidying keeps them at bay, (with the help of a cleaner) and that motivates me(!) pretty gross I know.

Aquarius1 Sun 27-Jan-13 14:48:56

Ps 'ey up lass and all that 2cats (have to confess i've adopted yorkshire as home for past 10 yrs odd but originally from the midlands (not brum))

retroelement Sun 27-Jan-13 15:18:03

I am also originally from Yorkshire (God's own country, although I am a confirmed atheist) but an honorary southerner now. I even sound posh, although I will never drop the short "a" in bath, grass, etc.

Anyway. I have today for the first time had some EWCM. AF is due tomorrow, and Dr. Google tells me this could be a sign she's on the way, but WTF? Why now and not, you know, around ovulation when it might actually be useful?

2cats222 Sun 27-Jan-13 16:01:02

Retro snap - I say bath properly (there is no r in bath!) but the yorkshire accent comes back quite quickly when i'm home or on the phone to parents etc, OH finds it hilarious!

Alternatively your EWCM could be a symptom of something else?? <Runs away fast from Viv wanging a sausage at me symptom spotting>

viviennewestwould Sun 27-Jan-13 16:18:37

Aquarius, the reference to serpents relates to those loons in America's bible belt who take a verse from the Old Testament entirely out of context and lift up venomous snakes during their services with the 'knowledge' that God will protect them. When various members are bitten and writhe around shrieking in agony - or worse, die - the congregation merely shrug their shoulders and say the victims were clearly not God's people hmm

Retro, fertile cm can appear right the way through the luteal phase and simply demonstrates a surge of oestrogen. Unfortunately, it does usually mean AF is on its way. At this stage in your cycle your best bet is to use it to stick wallpaper up.

So...I'm 5DPO and feeling a baby kicking - could I be pregnant?

MotherOfCleo Sun 27-Jan-13 16:24:24

haha, viv Im galloping towards my thirtys at a rate of knots I shall hit the big 30 in March. I appologise for being a very bad elderberry, please good christian can you show forgivness grin

<runs away before viv can catch me and neatly dodges her flying bratwurst>

viviennewestwould Sun 27-Jan-13 16:40:24

[beams beatifically at Mother]: bless you, my child.

I need help shouting out the demons (actually, not demons - statistics I masochistically devoured last night re ttc over 40) which are telling me I have only eighteen months to conceive. When I reach 43 I have almost zero chance of getting pregnant with my own eggs. We will never be able to afford donor IVF. I am feeling really, really miserable about these statistics. Yes, I know there are women who get preggo at 44, 45 etc but, really...they are very, very few and far between. I read last night that, if you read about women over 43 having babies they are most definitely not using their own eggs and had IVF. Iam 42 in August sadsadsad

2cats222 Sun 27-Jan-13 16:41:38

oooh viv you MUST be. I assume you're having some BH at this stage too

Aquarius promise I don't have that much mess! Just lots of honeymoon laundry, unpacking, stuff to go in the loft post wedding that I seem just to be moving around from room to room!

2cats222 Sun 27-Jan-13 16:46:20

and viv i wish I could say something to help/make you feel better/change the stats. Perhaps just wine / flowers / tea & biscuits and a hug. At least youre doing everything you can to make it happen and that has got to give you a much much better chance <hugs>

retroelement Sun 27-Jan-13 16:55:09

The stats are just that, though - population-level statistics and averages. Have you had tests, viv, to find out what YOUR fertility is?

Soph80 Sun 27-Jan-13 17:05:36

Viv - yes I was ovulating before clomid. You were right about it not making any difference sad

2cats - used to it now lol x

Pipbin Sun 27-Jan-13 17:53:40

Evening ladies.
The stats from earlier just go make me think that it's all just way to distract us until we get a BFP. I wonder what the stats are for people just not using any contraception and not charting etc.

Welcome Soph, nice to have another long termer here.

Bunny, just 33 (eek), CD2, cycle 9, married, have 2 furry babies and work in a boring office job.
MotherOfCleo, 29, ttc#1, month 4, bfp due 1 feb (fx)
Sophie80, 33 ttc#1, month 19, AF due next week (not sure of date as some scumbag has nicked my phone!)
Aquarius, 31, cycle [think its 10 now] 5ish dpo, af due 4 feb-ish, lazy so-and-so who's still in bed whilst typing this.
Happylass 34 (but not for much longer boohoo) CD2 of cycle 6. AF due Feb 21st
Viv, 41 (fuck off!) 5DPO, 11th cycle since mmc, champion sausage-wanger, nice tits.
2cats222, newlywed won't shut up about it & 31, CD10 of cycle 7
Pipbin, 37, cycle 17, I think, AF due 31st Jan

Sonics Sun 27-Jan-13 17:58:59

Hello ladies, can I add myself to your merry band? (Soph I'm not following you, promise!!)

I've added myself to the bottom of the list

Bunny, just 33 (eek), CD2, cycle 9, married, have 2 furry babies and work in a boring office job.
MotherOfCleo, 29, ttc#1, month 4, bfp due 1 feb (fx)
Sophie80, 33 ttc#1, month 19, AF due next week (not sure of date as some scumbag has nicked my phone!)
Aquarius, 31, cycle [think its 10 now] 5ish dpo, af due 4 feb-ish, lazy so-and-so who's still in bed whilst typing this.
Happylass 34 (but not for much longer boohoo) CD2 of cycle 6. AF due Feb 21st
Viv, 41 (fuck off!) 5DPO, 11th cycle since mmc, champion sausage-wanger, nice tits.
2cats222, newlywed won't shut up about it & 31, CD10 of cycle 7
Pipbin, 37, cycle 17, I think, AF due 31st Jan
Sonics, 32, cycle 19 (1 MMC August 2012) AF started yesterday what a bitch

Boodle9 Sun 27-Jan-13 18:05:31

Helloooo! I need to get me a bit of this list action:

Bunny, just 33 (eek), CD2, cycle 9, married, have 2 furry babies and work in a boring office job.
MotherOfCleo, 29, ttc#1, month 4, bfp due 1 feb (fx)
Sophie80, 33 ttc#1, month 19, AF due next week (not sure of date as some scumbag has nicked my phone!)
Aquarius, 31, cycle [think its 10 now] 5ish dpo, af due 4 feb-ish, lazy so-and-so who's still in bed whilst typing this.
Happylass 34 (but not for much longer boohoo) CD2 of cycle 6. AF due Feb 21st
Viv, 41 (fuck off!) 5DPO, 11th cycle since mmc, champion sausage-wanger, nice tits.
2cats222, newlywed won't shut up about it & 31, CD10 of cycle 7
Pipbin, 37, cycle 17, I think, AF due 31st Jan
Boodle, 29, cycle 18, waiting for first fertility specialist appointment and queen of the short luteal phase

Before any meat-based aerial attacks come my way for being 29, I must remind you all that I asked permission to join! smile

Bolded all our names too...just for shits and giggles.

Boodle9 Sun 27-Jan-13 18:11:57

Oh, meant to share this with 2cats as a demonstration of what dozing can do to your temperatures! I take my temperature at 6.15am each morning but yesterday I hit snooze and dozed for an hour before I took my temperature...look at the spike!

Ovulation Chart My temp chart

Sonics Sun 27-Jan-13 18:15:18

Can't beat shits and giggles boodle!

Did anyone see the programme that was on BBC2 a couple of weeks ago about the IVF clinic in Liverpool? I recorded it and only got round to watching it this morning. It amazed me (and made me cry of course!)

The bit that most hit home was when they were showing through a magnifying glass the sperm trying to get through to the egg. They had loads of cells to battle their way through before they even got to the egg, and the sperm were tiny compared to the egg. Just shows how hard it is, even if the sperm and the egg do manage to find each other. Also there was a couple who had 5 embryos and only 1 of them developed well enough to be viable. So again that made me think about how even if the egg gets fertilised that it doesn't necessarily mean you'll end up pregnant if the embryo starts to break down not long after fertilisation.

I think I knew all of this already but it just made me realise properly why sometimes it does take a long time to get pregnant!!

We have a doctors appointment in the morning to talk about the next steps. We've already had initial tests done that were all fine, so it's the more invasive ones next :-(

Sonics Sun 27-Jan-13 18:20:50

thanks for that boodle I've just started charting and I did wonder how much different it could really make if you snooze for a bit. I can see the answer to that is a big difference!

2cats222 Sun 27-Jan-13 18:44:08

boodle thanks! Lesson learnt, took all the advice and oral temped this morn as soon as the alarm went off after fumbling around in the dark half asleep not being able to find the on button and putting the wrong end of the thermometer in my mouth On a side note I am still spotting so thinking i may need to talk to the doc - wtf is wrong with my body??!?

Bunnygirlie Sun 27-Jan-13 19:28:38

Tired hungover hormonal and grumpy here, somebody say something funny or slap me with a sausage or something!!!

retroelement Sun 27-Jan-13 19:37:40

I suggest you head on over to mumsnet classics and read the one about the bolognaise. I nearly cried, I was laughing so hard.

Pipbin Sun 27-Jan-13 19:57:57

Right ladies, should I go for a run tomorrow?
I had my lap and dye a week ago thursday and I haven't been since.

Boodle9 Sun 27-Jan-13 20:10:08

Pip, did they say how long you should wait before starting exercise again? You could always go and just reduce your distance/speed to start off with, just to see how it goes? I'm sure you're very sensible and wouldn't push yourself if it felt uncomfortable!

Bunny, I'm no good at funny stuff so can't help you! Youtube is my 'go to' place for amusement, although I do agree with retro's suggestion of mumsnet classics! There's some brilliant stuff in there!

Sonics Sun 27-Jan-13 20:21:33

ooh where are the classics? I could do with a laugh

Boodle9 Sun 27-Jan-13 20:26:36

Here: http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/mumsnet_classics ! You can just go to talk and then it's in the 'Mumsnet stuff' section though.
Some are hilarious, some have had me in floods of tears. Pick your thread wisely! smile!

Boodle9 Sun 27-Jan-13 20:27:17

Gah! www.mumsnet.com/Talk/mumsnet_classics I ALWAYS forget to tick the 'convert links automatically' box!

Boodle9 Sun 27-Jan-13 20:31:13

Such bad form - I'm always having to post twice because I cock up/forget to say something, and now I'm adding a third post just to point out this total disregard for Internet forum etiquette.

(Flagellates self with a pepperami - it's Sundy night and that's all they had left at Co-Op.)

Boodle9 Sun 27-Jan-13 20:31:24

Such bad form - I'm always having to post twice because I cock up/forget to say something, and now I'm adding a third post just to point out this total disregard for Internet forum etiquette.

(Flagellates self with a pepperami - it's Sunday night and that's all they had left at Co-Op.)

Boodle9 Sun 27-Jan-13 20:33:35

Oh my fucking god. blush Sorry everyone! I'm just having a one-woman meltdown over here.

Promise not to post any more inane drivel for at least 10 minutes.

2cats222 Sun 27-Jan-13 20:45:30

grin boodle made me chuckle!

happylass Sun 27-Jan-13 21:01:37

Retro just read the spag bol thread. Laughed so hard I spat my tea everywhere! Amazed no one from here has posted to suggest throwing in some sausages, everything else has gone in. Hilarious!

twinklestar2 Sun 27-Jan-13 22:16:07

Boodle you made me laugh!!

Aquarius1 Sun 27-Jan-13 22:24:53

boodle you should get yourself a thread - the boodle show

just had a look at that mumsnet classics - i really felt for her, i'm a bad chef too.... such a shame she couldn't save it sad wink

the tripadvisor thread is v funny - 'i thought thickos was a greek island' ppfffff
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/mumsnet_classics/1174221-Thickos-on-TripAdvisor

Bunnygirlie Sun 27-Jan-13 22:33:38

I ate 3 macaroons instead, that's about 700 calories, I must be punished! Where is viv with that chorizo?!?!?

Boodle9 Sun 27-Jan-13 22:36:45

The Boodle Show! Lol! It would just be me on a thread ranting at myself!

Aquarius, I loved that tripadvisor thread! I saw it start on AIBU before it moved to classics. I love AIBU but I've never dared post there; it's the scariest place on the whole of mumsnet!

Pipbin Sun 27-Jan-13 23:09:33

Decided against a run tomorrow. The hospital did say two weeks, and as DH points out, although I look fairly mended on the outside you don't know what's going on on the inside.

Aquarius1 Sun 27-Jan-13 23:21:39

Sounds sensible pip

viviennewestwould Mon 28-Jan-13 07:59:02

'Sundy*, Boodle? wink

Does anyone dare me to start an AIBU thread involving sausages? I'm serious.

2cats222 Mon 28-Jan-13 08:17:07

viv I do. I will even reward you with a big handmade Lincolnshire beauty for future wanging needs

Bunnygirlie Mon 28-Jan-13 08:21:22

What is AIBU?

SidneyBristow Mon 28-Jan-13 09:47:02

Ooh, lists! I've put myself on the bottom:

Bunny, just 33 (eek), CD2, cycle 9, married, have 2 furry babies and work in a boring office job.
MotherOfCleo, 29, ttc#1, month 4, bfp due 1 feb (fx)
Sophie80, 33 ttc#1, month 19, AF due next week (not sure of date as some scumbag has nicked my phone!)
Aquarius, 31, cycle [think its 10 now] 5ish dpo, af due 4 feb-ish, lazy so-and-so who's still in bed whilst typing this.
Happylass 34 (but not for much longer boohoo) CD2 of cycle 6. AF due Feb 21st
Viv, 41 (fuck off!) 5DPO, 11th cycle since mmc, champion sausage-wanger, nice tits.
2cats222, newlywed won't shut up about it & 31, CD10 of cycle 7
Pipbin, 37, cycle 17, I think, AF due 31st Jan
Boodle, 29, cycle 18, waiting for first fertility specialist appointment and queen of the short luteal phase
SidneyBristow, 37 (for a little while longer, anyway), CD15 of cycle 7, married, determined to be optimistic even if it's bloody hard work!

We're back from our overnight up north. CBFM told me the wrong cycle date, so missed the chance to test on Saturday morning, a bit of a pain bc Friday was still registering as low fertility. I'm a girl who likes to see steady progress!! Didn't DTD Sat night as DH had too much to drink, and SIL was aggravated with me, so whatever shred of ambience there was to start had disappeared by bedtime. Made up for it though - Sun CBFM said medim (woot) and last night we DTD and again this morning, before POAS - high fertility + ovulating! Double woot!

2cats222 Mon 28-Jan-13 09:49:06

cheers for Sidney - well done you!

navis176 Mon 28-Jan-13 12:21:03

omg - go away for a few days and there's a whole shiny new thread and hundreds of posts...will attempt to catch up now grin

navis176 Mon 28-Jan-13 12:39:15

I like a good list....

Bunny, just 33 (eek), CD2, cycle 9, married, have 2 furry babies and work in a boring office job.
MotherOfCleo, 29, ttc#1, month 4, bfp due 1 feb (fx)
Sophie80, 33 ttc#1, month 19, AF due next week (not sure of date as some scumbag has nicked my phone!)
Aquarius, 31, cycle [think its 10 now] 5ish dpo, af due 4 feb-ish, lazy so-and-so who's still in bed whilst typing this.
Happylass 34 (but not for much longer boohoo) CD2 of cycle 6. AF due Feb 21st
Viv, 41 (fuck off!) 5DPO, 11th cycle since mmc, champion sausage-wanger, nice tits.
2cats222, newlywed won't shut up about it & 31, CD10 of cycle 7
Pipbin, 37, cycle 17, I think, AF due 31st Jan
Boodle, 29, cycle 18, waiting for first fertility specialist appointment and queen of the short luteal phase
SidneyBristow, 37 (for a little while longer, anyway), CD15 of cycle 7, married, determined to be optimistic even if it's bloody hard work!
Navis, 35, cd13 cycle 4 (this time round - 4 mmc previously), af due 14 Feb, would definitely give Aquarius a run for the money in laziness stakes

MotherOfCleo Mon 28-Jan-13 13:43:21

Thought I'd add to my info

Bunny just 33 (eek), CD2, cycle 9, married, have 2 furry babies and work in a boring office job.
MotherOfCleo 29 (till March), ttc#1, month 4, bfp due 1 feb (fx) owns one grouchy cat and one loony pooch, works for an ad agency, currently for a fetal scanning client, horribly ironic.
Sophie80 33 ttc#1, month 19, AF due next week (not sure of date as some scumbag has nicked my phone!)
Aquarius 31, cycle [think its 10 now] 5ish dpo, af due 4 feb-ish, lazy so-and-so who's still in bed whilst typing this.
Happylass 34 (but not for much longer boohoo) CD2 of cycle 6. AF due Feb 21st
Viv 41 (fuck off!) 5DPO, 11th cycle since mmc, champion sausage-wanger, nice tits.
2cats222 newlywed won't shut up about it & 31, CD10 of cycle 7
Pipbin 37, cycle 17, I think, AF due 31st Jan
Boodle 29, cycle 18, waiting for first fertility specialist appointment and queen of the short luteal phase
SidneyBristow 37 (for a little while longer, anyway), CD15 of cycle 7, married, determined to be optimistic even if it's bloody hard work!
Navis 35, cd13 cycle 4 (this time round - 4 mmc previously), af due 14 Feb, would definitely give Aquarius a run for the money in laziness stakes

viviennewestwould Mon 28-Jan-13 16:57:09

Navis, I am so sorry you have suffered four miscarriages. You are a warrior. Have you had these investigated? Any immunology tests?

Aquarius1 Mon 28-Jan-13 17:49:59

Does anyone think taking up a new form of exercise (having not done much exercise for a while) could be harmful to conception..I'm starting a class - just an hour a week (it's all I have time for) and it involves hula hoops and aerobics - am currently in my 2ww& just wonder whether it might be harmful to any little mini me that might start hanging around in my womb. Specially as its all about wiggling your waist a lot& i dont generally wiggle my waist a lot. Total nonsense?

Pipbin Mon 28-Jan-13 17:56:46

Aqua Last time I saw the consultant at the fertility clinic I asked about this. He said that it was fine. I run and I've worried about all the banging about.

viviennewestwould Mon 28-Jan-13 18:04:47

Aqua, it depends...would you be eating the hula hoops whilst doing aerobics?

Where is Mr. Viv? I'm friggin' starving! angry

Aquarius1 Mon 28-Jan-13 18:08:59

Thanks pip so banging (ahem) and wiggling are ok then

viv I wish smile

MotherOfCleo Mon 28-Jan-13 18:10:07

aqua ive done hoopaerobics before, I guess thats the class. You should be fine I would just ask the instructor as she may give you a lighter weighted hoop. Happy hooping smile

Hi everyone, am still boring and have nothing to report. An also still dribbling on myself, now thinking about hula hoops.

moc did the bleeding stop? Can you get a clot with implantation?

MotherOfCleo Mon 28-Jan-13 19:01:49

hi thunder yep I had three wipes (sorry couldnt think of a nicer way to put it) on 3 consecutive days which were browny red and each had a tiny clot. An now nothing. Got a BFN this morning at 12dpo. I am asking myself the same question re the clots, think they have to mean Im out this month sad

Im always ever hopeful until the itch arrives though.

This month has been different, lots of different things, cramps, tastes etc etc, Ive not imagined them but can't see them leading to my BFP some how confused

Aquarius1 Mon 28-Jan-13 19:02:30

what's your stats thunder ? are you in 2ww?

moc if the itch arrives you get yourself down the chemist quick smart wink

aquarius, not even there yet- only cd 5! Maybe have January blues?! Although looking forward to starting the poa opk run, I'm going digi this month.

Re the exercise I reckon go along and just don't overdo it. Who knows a bit of a wiggle might help even!

2cats222 Mon 28-Jan-13 19:20:07

bunny not sure if anyone annswered - it's Am I being Unreasonable... found within the Other Stuff category in Talk. Yes it's scary (and amusing)

moc when is AF due? Wondering how long I need to keep my fingers crossed for you for... (both for the itch and to keep away the witch/bitch!)

How much warning does everyone get (if you see what I mean) when using OPK's before the +ive? Mr 2cats is having to go away for 2 days and i'm petrified it's going to be shit timing. Barely visible line on the OPK this morn so hoping my surge is at least 3 or 4 days away. Otherwise may be booking some last minute flights to follow him to Italy!

MotherOfCleo Mon 28-Jan-13 19:32:54

doh lol, meant witch/bitch not itch lol. grin

AF isn't due till Friday.....heres hoping till then!

MotherOfCleo Mon 28-Jan-13 19:33:43

2cats im afraid I get no warning, it goes from faint to strong overnight usually. Not helpful sorry confused

Soph80 Mon 28-Jan-13 19:38:59

pmsl at eating hoola hoops. Aquarius - sounds fab. Surely, anything that helps you to become healthier is a good thing x

navis176 Mon 28-Jan-13 19:49:42

viv - I had some investigations a couple of years ago after 3 mmc - ultrasound, blood clotting tests, karyotyping - which threw up that I have translocated chromosomes. Then I didn't ttc for a couple of years. Now trying again - and another mmc. Which isn't really consistent with the type of translocation I have - it's the most common one and shouldn't alter the % chances that much. So now referring back (to a different hospital as I've moved) to make sure that they really have tested for everything - to make sure that I really just have been super unlucky and that there is no secondary problem - appointment not until 30 April - so just carrying on ttc until then. If there really is no secondary problem then we might try getting a referral for ivf with pre-implantation diagnosis...we shall see....

Aquarius - to echo everyone else, I don't see anything wrong with a wee bit of new exercise

moc - fx witch stays away....

2cats - I usually have a faint line for 2/3 days before positive opk

viviennewestwould Mon 28-Jan-13 19:58:14

Navis, look into immune issues testing - at least ask about it.

Mother, if you are 12DPO today how on earth can your period only be due on Friday (16DPO)?? That would give you a fifteen day luteal phase confused

Re exercise: over on the Assisted Conception threads all the women who have IUI/IVF are told by their consultants not to do any exercise during the 2ww. Now why do you suppose that is...?

I'm 6DPO today and my temp has dropped below the coverline. Also I had a metallic taste in my mouth whilst sucking on a spoon. Please start buying my 'CONGRATULATIONS YOU'RE HAVING A BABY!' cards..

viviennewestwould Mon 28-Jan-13 20:25:50

Gah. Sorry about my curmudgeonly post. Just had a volcanic row with the Bombay bastards at 3. Fucking retarded c**ts [thwacks Mr. Viv repeatedly around the noggin with sausage just 'cos he's breathing]

MotherOfCleo Mon 28-Jan-13 20:32:57

no worries viv hope you're ok chick.

I have a 29ish day cycle and got a positive opk eaelier than expected, as far as I know and by my calculations AF due Friday, both apps also say the same. Do you think I'm due before or after then? I thought a long LP was a good thing rather than bad? confused

MotherOfCleo Mon 28-Jan-13 20:53:04

just checked viv and last month was a 15 day LP too.....is that bad? hmm

viviennewestwould Mon 28-Jan-13 21:11:59

No, Mother, no problem whatsoever, just unusual, that's all (some women have 16 day luteal phases).

twinklestar2 Mon 28-Jan-13 21:13:08

I thought a 10-16 day LP was ok?!

retroelement Mon 28-Jan-13 21:17:36

I'm out for this month. I had created all manner of secret squirrel symptoms in my head, such as nausea (after eating an entire pizza to myself), boobs not only sore but feeling really weird (new bra) but these were swiftly followed by spotting (period).

Buf, sorry retro

Am confused about LP length now...

viviennewestwould Mon 28-Jan-13 21:33:35
MotherOfCleo Mon 28-Jan-13 21:35:48

viv you cheeky bloody bratwurst basher! wink

MotherOfCleo Mon 28-Jan-13 21:36:32

p.s I do not have f-ing hallotosis you cheeky mare! lol

viviennewestwould Mon 28-Jan-13 21:49:09

Aaaargh!!! I'm being annihilated on that thread! What is wrong with these women...can't they take a joke???

Pipbin Mon 28-Jan-13 21:50:34

Bunny just 33 (eek), CD2, cycle 9, married, have 2 furry babies and work in a boring office job.
MotherOfCleo 29 (till March), ttc#1, month 4, bfp due 1 feb (fx) owns one grouchy cat and one loony pooch, works for an ad agency, currently for a fetal scanning client, horribly ironic.
Sophie80 33 ttc#1, month 19, AF due next week (not sure of date as some scumbag has nicked my phone!)
Aquarius 31, cycle [think its 10 now] 5ish dpo, af due 4 feb-ish, lazy so-and-so who's still in bed whilst typing this.
Happylass 34 (but not for much longer boohoo) CD2 of cycle 6. AF due Feb 21st
Viv 41 (fuck off!) 5DPO, 11th cycle since mmc, champion sausage-wanger, nice tits.
2cats222 newlywed won't shut up about it & 31, CD10 of cycle 7
Boodle 29, cycle 18, waiting for first fertility specialist appointment and queen of the short luteal phase
SidneyBristow 37 (for a little while longer, anyway), CD15 of cycle 7, married, determined to be optimistic even if it's bloody hard work!
Navis 35, cd13 cycle 4 (this time round - 4 mmc previously), af due 14 Feb, would definitely give Aquarius a run for the money in laziness stakes
Pipbin 37 cycle 18 or 19, not sure, AF due 28th Feb

Boodle9 Mon 28-Jan-13 21:54:15

Bloody hell, Viv! Very brave of you! Waiting with baited breath to see how that thread pans out! grin

Oh, and the Sundy thing...I tried to correct it but obviously pressed send before doing so...hence the double message of random waffle!

I went to the supermarket earlier and spent a good ten minutes just laughing in the sausage aisle. What have you done to me, woman?!

Feel like I should try to mention TTC in some of my posts, given the whole point of this thread and all. I'm on CD 11 (I think...maybe 12? Hmmm!) and haven't DTD yet as DH is going for SA. Hoping OV doesn't happen for a few more days. Are there any more acronyms I can squeeze in? Answers on a postcard.

MotherOfCleo Mon 28-Jan-13 22:00:47

haha, just checked it viv and those women are mean hmm
Tell them to do one! Loved the skiing comment by the way wink

p.s hallotosis pft wink

happylass Mon 28-Jan-13 22:01:16

Hahahahahaha Viv there are waaaaaaaay too many people on AIBU who take themselves waaaaaaaay too seriously. Good for you grin

Aquarius1 Mon 28-Jan-13 22:09:22

V brave viv - you are a voice of sanity in a world of lunacy - but i guess its not what some people want to hear. They are not ready for the sausage of wang. most of my 2ww cramps have just been bowel movements smile

Bunnygirlie Mon 28-Jan-13 22:09:43

Guess what I had for dinner wangers.....sausages!!!! I did grin to myself lol

Crikey viv just read your thread PMSL I bet you love a good squabble!

Boodle9 Mon 28-Jan-13 22:12:52

Viv is a law unto herself! Unleash her on AIBU and we have got some serious bun fighting sausage wanging going on!

I haven't symptom spotted for ages - gave up when I realised my uterine lining falls if I so much as sneeze. However, in my early days of TTC I got ever so excited about my bright yellow pee...until I realised I was just going a bit overboard with the B6 supplements. Flippin' idiot.

Boodle9 Mon 28-Jan-13 22:21:21

Hey, you've hooked a couple of wangers over there, Viv! They're even throwing sausages behind Olivia's back! Love it! smile

viviennewestwould Mon 28-Jan-13 22:23:10

Why are these women making me out to be evil? Can't they see it's a tongue-in-cheek piss-take? [waves chipolata defiantly]

viviennewestwould Mon 28-Jan-13 22:40:48

Boodle, I know! 'Tis a hoot (but a real shame some people think TTC has to be deadly serious all the time).

Mother, your breath smells like these thanks

Boodle9 Mon 28-Jan-13 22:52:40

I haven't taken symptom spotting seriously for ages and I'm surprised (not in a condescending way, I might add) that there are people who can still keep that hope going even when we're talking years, not months! Fair play to them, I guess, but I need to make light of it on here when everything is so serious and depressing in real life.

Now, I'm going to go and fetch my fire extinguisher to cool Viv down after her AIBU flaming. Ah, sod it. Flings wine at Viv. There, that'll do.

MotherOfCleo Mon 28-Jan-13 22:55:07

haha, viv you flirt you wink

twinklestar2 Mon 28-Jan-13 23:06:10

Ooh Viv you do make me chuckle!

captainmoll Mon 28-Jan-13 23:41:09

Oh no! I missed the party! MNHQ have removed your thread Viv! Darn.

I've gave up symptom spotting after about cycle 4 as I am just way too good at inventing them.
obviously, I still symptom spot constantly but I just pretend I don't

MotherOfCleo Tue 29-Jan-13 04:41:49

I think Im out, had a streak of red when I wiped. Geez why does this hurt so much each month sad
I did actually have odd 'symptoms' this month which adds insult to injury. The metalic taste for example was not a figment of my imagination.
Excuse me, just going to slope off for a bit of self pity sad

Damnit I missed it too! Chuckling even at the baby dust sprinkles that remain though!

Arse, sorry moc, that's early innit?

Bunnygirlie Tue 29-Jan-13 08:31:36

I HATE the term baby dust, makes me think of sprinkling ashes YUCK!

Sorry you're out mother

grin bunny
I haven't delved much onto other threads (only mostly when trying to find some real facts about mmc), but I've seen it used liberally over there...

Aquarius1 Tue 29-Jan-13 08:45:16

Can't believe they killed it with baby dust - boo

So sorry mother dear

MotherOfCleo Tue 29-Jan-13 09:27:25

Cheers ladies, yep bloody early thunder although I usually spot for a couple of days prior to full ERTD.....my OH was pissed off....doh.

MotherOfCleo Tue 29-Jan-13 09:29:08

Agree re baby dust too, sounds like they think they are Tinkerbell or something equally dumb. I don't want baby dust I want a super strong fighter sperm to meet and woo my hardy little egg. Romantic huh wink

viviennewestwould Tue 29-Jan-13 09:51:30

Mother, I'm sorry about your AF, love.

Who threw wine at me, a recovering alcoholic? [shocked]

What the FUCK has the world come to when you cannot start a light-hearted thread that pokes fun at 4DPO symptom-spotters?? We've all done it..we've all imagined ludicrous symptoms - why the frig would mumsnet remove a thread just because there are women struggling to get pregnant who retain no sense of humour whatsoever? I'M one of those women struggling to get pregnant but I can see the funny side of imagining you're pregnant at 3DPO because you need a shit. AAaaaaaaaaargh!!!! [gathers up babydust with the aid of a greasy sausage, picks off mulch, moulds into a ball and hurls at mumsnet staff] angry

viviennewestwould Tue 29-Jan-13 09:54:22

AIBU TO WANT TO WANG HUMOURLESS, PREACHY MUMSNETTERS TO DEATH WITH A WRECKING-BALL MADE OF SAUSAGE MEAT?

[scuttles away before tempted to actually post in AIBU]

captainmoll Tue 29-Jan-13 09:59:44

I am ringing my Awkward Alarm here too - I'm also on the BESH fred, which is where Viv's nemesiseseses are and I like everyone on both freds very much and am herewith heretoforth hence becoming the fred equivalent of Switzerland and remaining more neutral than a very neutral thing. Like a bland tinned frankfurter without onions or mustard. So there.

viviennewestwould Tue 29-Jan-13 10:01:53

Message deleted by Mumsnet for breaking our Talk Guidelines. Replies may also be deleted.

I didn't realise wanging could go as far as death. Imagine the headlines 30-something unpregnant woman wanged to death by unidentified meat

It's alright viv, it is best to have a sense of humour about it because, quite frankly, we're all pretty ridiculous whilst playing this ttc game. But it seems that many women are too consumed by it to be able to laugh at all. Wish I could've read that thread though damnit.

<chuckles at inappropriate wine lobbing>

viviennewestwould Tue 29-Jan-13 10:04:12

Captain, how could you possibly wallow in such a pit of sewage? Climb out [swings rigging out to Captain] and save yourself!!

captainmoll Tue 29-Jan-13 10:06:01

<utterly neutral face>

<whispers> What is BESH?

captainmoll Tue 29-Jan-13 10:22:48

Barren evil selfish hags. It's another over-30's ttc thread.

Wow what a name. And ouch! Are you evil?

2cats222 Tue 29-Jan-13 10:30:16

did read the thread last night but was too shock at the attitude and responses from some people i couldn't even begin to post knew it would have got me kicked off anyway a good demonstration of the scary world of AIBU! <pats viv on the back>

What was their beef? Defending the 4dpo symptom?

ArielThePiraticalMermaid Tue 29-Jan-13 10:40:19

Hello.

Barren Evil Selfish Hags is an ironic name. It's in response to the likes of Liz Jones who castigate all women over 30 TTC as, well, barren evil and selfish career women who put money before procreating. A point she has proven this week in fact.

We had no beef. Only a couple of the people on Viv's thread were from the the BESH thread. The others were other long term TTCers who I don't know.

Good luck to you all. Hope you get your BFPs.

ArielThePiraticalMermaid Tue 29-Jan-13 10:42:43

Sorry meant to add that there was no beef with the actual original post. We generally find the four day symptom spotters amusing and exasperating as in "Bless, they'll soon grow out of it" sort of way.

Hope that sorts that out.

ScarlettInSpace Tue 29-Jan-13 10:45:41

Hi,
Just an observation in case you hadn't realised - this is an open thread on an open forum so all those HUMOURLESS, PREACHY MUMSNETTERS, I'd imagine including myself, who weren't party to your in-jokes and didn't take particularly kindly to some of the things you said to other people are no doubt reading your lovely comments on here as you so kindly linked to this thread. Seriously though - you posted on AIBU, got flamed, and the thread was deleted, surely that's job done, why not let it lie???
Just sayin...

ArielThePiraticalMermaid Tue 29-Jan-13 10:46:49

Um, I think we should leave this now

<hurries out quickly>

ScarlettInSpace Tue 29-Jan-13 10:48:19

exits stage left

Sorry, I meant what was the beef on the aibu thread- my BESH question was totally separate, mostly cos I am befuddled by all the acronyms and a bit stoopid I didn't really think you were evil but thanks for the explanation of the thread name- that's funny.

viv, you are stirring it up!

2cats222 Tue 29-Jan-13 12:12:33

Right... I'm changing the topic! Having had the weirdest cycle from hell so far I think I have a shadow on a test this morn (HCG not OPK)... anyone want to laugh at me getting confused/excited over nothing??

janey1234 Tue 29-Jan-13 12:14:22

Oh look what happens when I stop stalking you all!

What's going on?!

<reminds self to stop nosing around threads to which I don't belong>

Loving new thread title btw.

SidneyBristow Tue 29-Jan-13 12:17:59

Anyone up for a little conception talk?

CBFM showed Low fertility Friday; DH and I DTD anyway just 'cause we like to (actually did it most days last week bc we knew this week would be DTD for a purpose, which can be a drag). Sat CBFM malfunctioned & I missed testing. Didn't DTD as was at SIL's house and no time/interest during the 20 minutes we were alone before passing out asleep. Sun CBFM showed High (previously thought was "medium" since it was 2 bars on the indicator; re-read the directions this morning & 2 bars = High); DTD that evening. Mon CBFM showed Maximum/Ovulating; had DTD already that morning. Didn't at night, due to stressful convo about custody/ex-wife issues (ongoing issue in our house, unfortunately). Tues (today) CBFM showed max/ov; had DTD already this morning.

My iphone app has me ovulating today, with "good days" from Sunday through tomorrow.

Are we in good shape so far? Barring anymore ex-wife chat, we'll likely DTD tonight & tomorrow morning, poss nightly the rest of the week.

Argh. Why am I paranoid that I'm just not doing this right??

2cats222 Tue 29-Jan-13 12:21:49

Sidney sounds to me you did a great job... if I read it right;
Ov either 28th/29th & you had BD 27th PM, 28th PM 29th AM and even better if you managed the 24th/25th too. Fx good luck

janey1234 Tue 29-Jan-13 12:31:15

2cats (again, know I'm no longer on this thread, but just can't help myself)
Tell me more about this line?

2cats222 Tue 29-Jan-13 12:41:09

So I did both an OPK and a HCG this morn as I am so confused about my cycle. The OPK has a v faint (but not a squinter) line as per yesterday's. I put it next to the HCG to take a pic (for th record as you do) and hey ho notice there's a shadow on the HCG. Its squinty in my imagination so probably an evap. But I did another (same urine) and got the same...

www.canyouseealine.com/view_home_pregnancy_test.php?testID=25742

MotherOfCleo Tue 29-Jan-13 12:43:39

I'm with janey, 2cats tell us more about this line?

My AF meltdown was once again a one well in this case 2 wipe wonder, all spotting has stopped again.....seriously WTF is going on this month?!? I'm 13DPO, AF due Friday so wtf is with suspicious disappearing spotting....

2cats222 Tue 29-Jan-13 12:45:43

mother that's great news... keeping fingers crossed and not mentioning baby dust wink at all

sidney sounds good to me too.
2cats, time to break out a FRER?! They say a line is a line after all....
Hi janey

janey1234 Tue 29-Jan-13 12:53:57

Hi thundercats <waves like a loon due to not being kicked off thread rightly for pestering>

2cats - which one is which? Is one a OPK and one a preg test?

mother - still got everything crossed.....

2cats222 Tue 29-Jan-13 12:57:41

honestly it's just me trying to find explanation for what the hell is going on... I know it's not a line really... just so confused and a late O and very long lasting implantation bleeding would make more sense right now than the actual facts (been spotting for 7 days continuously after v v light 5 day AF)

2cats222 Tue 29-Jan-13 12:58:04

top one is preg, bottom is OPK

MotherOfCleo Tue 29-Jan-13 13:02:20

2cats I can't see any pics at all???

2cats222 Tue 29-Jan-13 13:06:21

sorry mother pic is here. Top stick preg bottom OPK. Hope this stupid non line isn't distracting everyone too much from doing useful things like work!!

www.canyouseealine.com/view_home_pregnancy_test.php?testID=25742

I can see what you mean, but I really don't know! Do you have another hpt you can do?

MotherOfCleo Tue 29-Jan-13 13:23:14

I see what you mean 2cats tricky, I 'think' I see a line, but I don't know if it's my eyes playing tricks because I can see the bottom one...

2cats222 Tue 29-Jan-13 13:28:33

<Plonks sensible hat firmly on head> I am going to ring the doc and lt her figure out my stupid cycle rather than squint at any more sticks!

janey1234 Tue 29-Jan-13 13:46:03

2cats Firstly - ignore what I'm about to say. I'm terrible for getting people's hopes up (ask mother). However, when I got my BFP it was that pale to begin with - you could hardly see it. Took a good couple of weeks (I got through a LOAD of tests) to really darken up to anywhere near the same colour as the test line....

<wangs sausage with take another test! written on it in ketchup> just in case that gets through....

janey1234 Tue 29-Jan-13 13:56:46

Right, I've tried to make my profile public and added a photo of that first test. Hope that's not getting your hope up 2cats - just wanted to show that really the line CAN BE (but I'm sure isn't always) very pale from the start.

Basically, listen to thunder and do another test!!

2cats222 Tue 29-Jan-13 14:10:51

Wow that IS as faint as mine! To keep you all happy I will do another test later this afternoon and keep you posted. However I think it would be a miracle if I was pregnant. Even if AF was not AF (and I have just simply been spotting since 7DPO) and if I O'd late due to wedding stress I would still be 18DPO now and therefore would expect a nice strong line, even with 2nd morn urine.

I think I have to accept that AF was AF and i'm on CD 12 and have something else going on causing the spotting for the last 7 -9 days. Am waiting for call back from Dr in the hope I can get to the bottom of this as the stupid spotting is potentially going to screw up this cycle angry and could be something more concerning hmm

While on the subject can I check i'm right in using 2nd morn urine for OPK? I realised last night that the instructions included in the box of OPK's are different to the instructions on each individual OPK packet so slightly confused...

2cats222 Tue 29-Jan-13 14:12:46

Ps Viv i know that staring at blank POAS is as bad as symptom spotting at 4DPO. Please forgive me and I will make you a sausage on a stick hedgehog to make up for it grin

janey1234 Tue 29-Jan-13 14:19:25

It may well be the case 2cats but you never, never know. FWIW my line was really pale until about 10 days after I was due on. Really hoping you're wrong.

viv - please don't wang any sausages at me. I've only popped back briefly again and will bugger off again now.

2cats222 Tue 29-Jan-13 15:35:59

cheers helpful doctor not she said don't worry unless I carry on spotting for a couple of months. WTF!

navis176 Tue 29-Jan-13 16:50:34

2cats - don't you just love it when docs are so helpful?! Have you tested again yet? re opks - I usually test around 5pm - seems to work best for me...

Yeah any news, 2cats <clearly relishing the distraction from work>

Also do you remember those chocolate button hedgehog cakes? Could you make one of them?

navis176 Tue 29-Jan-13 16:58:54

gah - just read back and looks like I missed a whole load of excitement!!

Pipbin Tue 29-Jan-13 18:13:38

Thunder I know the chocolate button hedgehog cakes. All my favourite cook books are from the 80s. Hang on a bit and I'll post a picture of one.

In other news I spoke to my financial advisor today and we can borrow more money for less. So hurrah for that!

Aquarius1 Tue 29-Jan-13 18:14:29

Mmm chocolate button hedgehog cakes....

Bunnygirlie Tue 29-Jan-13 18:37:36

Glad things are calmer in here now, I didn't like the earlier atmos!

Mmmmmmm cake!

Hoping for some BFPs soon!!!

2cats222 Tue 29-Jan-13 19:12:13

Sorry guys, haven't tested again. Now have docs app in the morning to shout at them get to the bottom of it

MotherOfCleo Tue 29-Jan-13 19:14:19

If my body doesnt make up its mind soon 2cats im going to the docs too! I wish u luck hun.

Boodle9 Tue 29-Jan-13 20:11:05

Oh maaaaaaaaaan, there's loads of stuff to read since last night. Humph. I hate reading. Sulk. (Have clearly spent too much time with stroppy children at school today.)

Rewind - Viv, it was a glass of ribena, I swear to god. Tries to cover up shame of throwing wine at recovered alcoholic Next time I'll just stick to the good ol' sausage assault.

Oooh 'eck, it did get a bit tense earlier. Still, AIBU is always kicking off like that; that's what makes it so fun to read! It's a proper little fight club.

Mother and 2cats, hope things are OK your way. I'm sort of enjoying being on CD12; little bit of sexy time later I think. I can't stand the 2 1 week wait and just knowing it's futile. Hoping that that is not the case for you two though.

Pipbin Tue 29-Jan-13 20:16:12

Exactly that pip! I've not seen diddy ones before- they are gorgeous! Did you make em?

Boodle9 Tue 29-Jan-13 20:23:02

Captain - officially change your name to Captainmoll of Switzerland, park yourself up on that fence and never ever leave! I'm bloody brilliant at staying neutral because I'm too lazy to have a proper opinion.

Why are we talking about cakes?! I want a cake!

It takes me so long to figure out what's actually going on I don't get time to take sides either! And mostly I'm pretty live and let live.

I thought of cakes because of 2cats talking about a hedgehog of cocktail sausages which reminded me of that old party classic from my childhood.

captainmoll Tue 29-Jan-13 21:12:52

Pip I love these cakes! I had one as a birthday cake back in the mists of time when I was little and I loved it so much.. Nostalgia.. <sigh>

Boodle Thunder Yeah, the fence is a little uncomfortable on my buttocks, but TTC is stressful enough without fisticuffs as well. We're all going through this shitty thing together - I'm a lover, not a fighter grin I'm staying here in Switzerland with all the fondues and chocolates

I want cake now sad Sodding diet..

Hi Janey!! How's it going over there in the magic land of preggersness?

2Cats hope you get an answer soon - I've got no idea about those lines.. The spotting is odd though and I think your doc is mean for the 'wait a few months' remark. I'm sure s/he meant to be reassuring, but it's not really the response you needed!

Boodle9 Tue 29-Jan-13 21:51:13

Cake nostalgia! Fantastic! My happiest cake memories are of birthday party cupcakes with either the little silver balls (dragees, I think?) or edible paper transfers featuring cartoon characters like Spiderman! Anyone else remember the latter or just me? We should be careful when reminiscing about childhood though...if you get onto Children's TV there'll be no stopping me!

Captain, is it cheese fondue? Please may I have a little bit?

On the whole TTC issue, have any of you ever had concerns about thyroid raised? Either in regards to TTC or for any other reason? When I first came on this thread, Hazle was very nice and shared some info but just wondering if there's anyone else? I'm feeling more and more fed up about mine every day. I really think I have problems, even though my levels aren't quite high enough for clinical attention yet. I am convinced I'm symptomatic but I think the doctor just assumes I'm looking for a reason for my infertility (it's crap writing that).

Pipbin Tue 29-Jan-13 23:25:44

No, I didn't make the hedgehog cakes, it's a picture from a 1980s cookery book.

Aquarius1 Wed 30-Jan-13 13:15:00

boodle I had tests for thyroid probs a couple of years ago because of some symptoms I had (cold all the time& heart palpitations- I just thought it was anaemia) the levels came back fine but there were other things in my blood which were a bit low (eg. WBC) so they kept testing me every 3/6 mths to see if the levels stayed the same. have only now been referred to haematologist since new GP joined the surgery (who I went to see) and decided it needed more investigation. I reckon you should keep plugging away and ask for more tests if you haven't already. Don't know if that helps much..hope you get some answers.

navis176 Wed 30-Jan-13 17:51:12

mmmm cake....a friend of mine apparently has some lemon drizzle and choc cake awaiting my collection....

Hey boodle, I went for blood test after feeling so light headed and lethargic a few weeks after ERPC. It showed v low iron and low thyroid so I have to go back in March for retest. Lots of thyroid issues in my family so won't be surprised if it will be a problem soon if not now. If (big if) I do get a bfp again I'll bash down docs door to get it monitored as I know it can be linked to mc and that first pg ended in mmc. Don't know of that's helpful!

Pipbin Wed 30-Jan-13 21:18:41

Where is everyone then? This thread has never been so quiet.

I'm here pip. How are you?

What are you buying with the money you are borrowing?

MotherOfCleo Wed 30-Jan-13 21:33:26

hi pip im lurking, too scared to test incase I get a BFN but having a serious wtf cycle.....FX

What's happening now then moc?

captainmoll Wed 30-Jan-13 21:46:35

Hello, I'm still lurking too. Just waiting on tenterhooks for dh's SA results, my MRI results and both our blood test results!

Mother, hope your cycles makes its mind up soon (and decides on a big shiny BFP)

happylass Wed 30-Jan-13 21:50:31

I'm here too! CD5 = no mans land. Rubbish!!

MotherOfCleo Wed 30-Jan-13 21:52:58

Not much news, getting heaps of cramps and pains, quite uncomfortable! Not like AF but I'm not too hopeful as obv the spotting last week and the couple of small clots can't be good! It's all just so different to the norm though which makes me wonder.
All the spotting has stopped at the moment so until AF arrives I'm going to try to stay hopeful.
Going to try not to test until Friday at the earliest as the BFNs kill me.

Aquarius1 Wed 30-Jan-13 21:54:54

And me... I thought the App wasn't working properly or summat

Am 5 days from af here according to Iperiod - and I don't have sore boobs for a change- not that I'm at all symptom spotting .... wink

SidneyBristow Wed 30-Jan-13 21:55:22

Hey,
Captain when do you think the test results will come back? How long is the turnaround time again? Super quick I hope! I've booked an appt wiht a GP for next week, and will probably line up a SA for DH & whatever they recommend for me. Fx all come back alright for you!

Mother! This thread needs a BFP soon, maybe it's your turn!! Exciting!!

Oddly I have some thyroid issues in my history, nothing bad enough for medication, just monitoring. A cousin of mine has the same issues & wound up seeing a dr who believed that if a patient shows symptoms that aren't completely supported by blood tests, that the symptoms were still very real and therefore should be treated with meds. I wonder if that attitude has caught on? Will be adding it to my list of things to talk about with the GP.

CD16 here and have finished our shagathon. We are worn out! Whatever happens (BFP please please please) I think this time we gave it our all, which will hopefully give me some peace of mind over the next couple of weeks.

Boodle9 Wed 30-Jan-13 22:09:48

Sidney, where is this doctor?! I'm like a walking textbook of symptoms but the doctors I've seen about it just don't seem to give a damn! Thanks Thunder and Aquarius for answering too. I have ongoing problems with anaemia so maybe I need to just go to doctor and demand they do something! I'm not sure how much longer I can go on feeling as ill as I do at the moment; it's making me feel really miserable and low. sad However, I worry that the doctor will just blame it on infertility blues and blow me off.

I would like to see a BFP on here too. I've not been a regular on a TTC thread before and as such am yet to see a BFP be 'got' by someone I 'know'!

I'm on CD 14 and no sign of ovulation for me, which blows a bit really. I usually ovulate a bit late (CD15-18) but by now I'm usually starting to see a faint line on the stick; today's was completely bare. Am hoping it's not an anovulatory month because next month is likely to be a no-goer due to DH working away. Not that I have any reason to hope it could happen this month no matter how much we shag!

Boodle9 Wed 30-Jan-13 22:18:39

I'm going to "do a Boodle" now and post twice in a row because there is ALWAYS something I forget to say. (I hope everyone just thinks it's a cute quirk...?!)

No sign of Viv today then? Where are you, Viv? I'm worried you've buggered off! Don't do that - we all need somewhere to vent our spleen.

Also, wanted to make another addition to Boodle's ridiculous list of jealousy. You'll hopefully remember item 1 is the moon (for her crescent 'round tummy' and association with fertility). Coming in at number 2 is a car that I keep seeing on my way to work with the number plate 'BFP'.

Bastards. The both of them.

Bunnygirlie Wed 30-Jan-13 22:38:59

Noooooo boodle that's awful! Why is it when you are thinking about something you notice things everywhere, all I see everyday is lucky fatties, celeb fatties posing naked with their bumps etc...

It is very quiet in here this week, are we all fed up?

We had quite a few BFPs in a row but nothing for ages and ages sad we must be due one soon!

CD5 here so in limbo like you happy, gonna start DTD at the weekend to ease DH into it without so much pressure. At least that's what I hope, dec and jan were disasters hardly DTD at all, I really hope feb is a good month, even if it's just to get back into the routine of lots of sex.

Boodle9 Wed 30-Jan-13 23:02:36

I know, Bunny! I think I project my annoyance onto things like cars and celestial bodies so as to avoid getting pissed off with the stupid number of actual pregnant ladies/people with newborns in my life! I know it's horrible of me to think that way, but if I can't say it to a bunch of names on a screen, who can I say it to?! grin

Here's to all the sex in February for you! The month of romance and lying on your back with your legs in the air, waving them round like you just don't care!

Aquarius1 Thu 31-Jan-13 08:21:07

Hurray another episode of the boodle show ! wink Damn that car registration - that would annoy me too although part of me might vainly hope it was a sign....

bunny i second what boodle said - hoping you & your oh can get enough bedtime (or not as the case may be) action for this cycle

<chuckles at car reg> - I have a van I walk past with HPT in massive letters on the side. It's either only there at the end of my cycle, or that's the only time I notice it, but it doesn't help the willpower...

Cd8 here and starting to look forward to poa opk this weekend, it's got that sad bad.

boodle I think it's a good idea to see doc if you're worried about blood levels. Have you been on iron in the past?

How's everyone doing today?

SidneyBristow Thu 31-Jan-13 09:13:11

Boodle the dr was in the US, so not much help over here I'm afraid. I had serious dr envy; this guy got my cousin nearly free of crippling migraines just by changing her diet wondering if that second cookie this morning was really necessary

I'm with Aquarius, maybe think of the moon & the annoying number plate as the universe's way of saying "hang in there"? Or, you could always take a marker to the plate to change the "P" to an "8" or something, but I think the moon is pretty much gonna do its thing til the end of time!

Here's a wine to all the Feb sex on the menu!

MotherOfCleo Thu 31-Jan-13 10:35:40

AF has landed.......grrrr. sad

janey1234 Thu 31-Jan-13 10:39:44

sad sad sad sad sad for you mother

MotherOfCleo Thu 31-Jan-13 10:43:15

thanks janey no idea what my body was up to this month! sad

Pants, sorry mother, it had looked so promising. Mother nature likes to play tricks on us angry.

happylass Thu 31-Jan-13 11:40:05

Sorry to hear that Mother sad

captainmoll Thu 31-Jan-13 11:57:53

Sorry Mother. Better luck next round.

SidneyBristow Thu 31-Jan-13 12:37:54

Sorry mother sad

navis176 Thu 31-Jan-13 13:56:16

mother - boo!

kinda bored here today - 2 more days of sme plan to go - then waiting for af/poas....I am so rubbish at waiting [sigh] at least +ive opk was 2 days early so can poas on 12th instead of 14th - small yay!

how's everyone else? any interesting news?

Boodle9 Thu 31-Jan-13 17:35:35

Pah to AF, Mother - that's rubbish!

Oh Aquarius, I do wish it were a sign, but I started spotting it about a year ago! If it's a sign then it's a bloody slow one that needs a kick up the bum!

Sidney, your philosophical outlook on the moon 'pretty much doing her thing 'til the end of time' made me snigger! Damn that the dr is American though! I think I should try to track down an American GP!

Thunder, yes, I've had ferrous sulphates prescribed in the past; initially to treat anaemia and then to prevent. I suppose I need to just gather all my gumption, head to the doctors and refuse to leave until they agree that something isn't right. I'm good at saying it now, but when I go I just sit in their office like a soggy flan waiting to get sent packing with my tail between my legs (--that's one weird flan...--) and a 'come back in 6 months' order.

Still no sign of anything on my ovulation sticks, although I realised this morning that I was a day ahead of myself and I am actually on CD14 today. Still sulking though as the last few months I've ov'd a few times on CD15/16 whereas earlier in the TTC journey it was more CD17/18. Looks like it might be going back to later, if it is going to happen at all.

Aquarius1 Thu 31-Jan-13 18:31:47

[kicks car reg plate up the bum] ouch

I'm in a long &boring train journey and need some one to have some news or something.... Otherwise I'll keep googling imaginary symptoms (eg why aren't my boobs sore -as if dr google knows...)

viv lass hope you've not given up on MN altogether?

Boodle9 Thu 31-Jan-13 18:41:35

Why are you on a long train journey, Aquarius? This sounds like the perfect opportunity for you to spend ages reading more 'mumsnet classics' threads! Don't go near the random acts of kindness one though - it makes me sniffle.

Aquarius1 Thu 31-Jan-13 18:44:17

Going back up to Yorkshire after a work thing in the south. Annoyingly iPhone running out of juice and person next to me is hogging the plug...what's the etiquette here? Give him an hour &then tell him I need it??

Boodle9 Thu 31-Jan-13 19:04:55

I have never been in that situation (My phone used to belong to a T-Rex and was probably last charged around then too) but my gut instinct is that an hour is generous! Why don't you say now 'Is it OK if I use the plug when you're finished with it?' in the hope that it will guilt them into letting you have it sooner?

Bunnygirlie Thu 31-Jan-13 19:11:27

Evening all!

Sorry to hear that mother back to the start with us sad

Hubby out tonight so having a pamper night, bubble bath, mani pedi and general prettification routine for DTD week/s. Any suggestions for places that sell pretty undies but not too pricey seeing as they won't be worn long lol

Boodle9 Thu 31-Jan-13 19:38:51

Bunny, get you making all that effort! We DTD last night and I forgot to buy some new razor blades last week. I had to explain that he was indeed making sweet love to his wife, and not a rogue yeti that had somehow snuck into the house and climbed into the bed.

Could you try somewhere like Debenhams for nice undies? They have so much lingerie in there, there's nearly always something on offer? Not something I worry about too much though; we have a nudity clause (i.e. always be naked) when it comes to TTC. DH has no imagination whatsoever, so no point trying to 'leave anything' to it!

Aquarius1 Thu 31-Jan-13 20:32:13

Well after trying to get my phone charged I couldn't get any reception hmph... boodle I chickened out and changed seats- was at a table so needed to change anyway- I hate table seats. Everyone trying not to stare at each other and rub knees.

On the underwear I'd go for m&s as an alternative - think they do 3 for £12 and they've got some nice lacy numbers in all different styles...

I get called yeti-like names too when I've ignored my razor. I don't have time for regular maintenance - dont get how anyone does- but I know dh likes it when I do smile

Bunnygirlie Thu 31-Jan-13 20:46:19

Lol I wax once a month so after 2 weeks I start to resemble a yeti tee hee

Don't know why I'm bothering with undies, hubby is a morning person so most of the time it's jimjams and fuzzy hair [Confused]

Aquarius1 Thu 31-Jan-13 21:04:35

Eeee you're a brave lass for waxing bunny - I never got into it

What about some glam jim jams - i recently bought a slinky satin night shirt that dh likes -from bhs of all places - feels nice to wear & I don't feel such a scruff when I wake up in it

Boodle9 Thu 31-Jan-13 21:05:15

smile I've just realised an assumption has been made about the location of my 'yeti-ness'! It was actually my legs and blush armpits that were the issue! Other places were actually quite tidy because I made sure I was ready for my recent encounter with the dildocam !

Bunnygirlie Thu 31-Jan-13 22:35:02

Good idea aquarius

And I assumed nothing boodle wink

Boodle9 Thu 31-Jan-13 23:15:35

grin

On the subject of sexy jim jams, why don't you invest in a lovely, Valentine-themed onesie? That's sure to fire up the man in your life; you will literally be 'sex in a sack'...who could resist such an alluring prospect?!

captainmoll Thu 31-Jan-13 23:28:38

DH told me last night that he finds my paint-covered tracky bums and my old granny-knitted jumper outfit very attractive as it makes me look 'gung-ho' or something. Slovenly win. I'm not going to argue with that.
I don't shave - haven't done for years as it was a great dickhead repellant when single, and DH doesn't give two hoots about it. And I've alway had a very tidy quim anyway wink
I think three years of living in a building site has really knocked all the glamour out of us. By the time you've spent 6 months with the 'bathroom' being a cassette toilet in the middle of the 'living room' (ie, woodpile), you kinda lose the mystery.. shock

Bunnygirlie Fri 01-Feb-13 08:36:20

Oh my! Lol

I wear tracky bottoms most evenings too, not very glam but after 7 years you don't really make much effort do you lol

And as for onesies, I find them really creepy, it's just one step away from adult nappies [Shock]

Bunnygirlie Fri 01-Feb-13 08:36:56

shock even

happylass Fri 01-Feb-13 11:10:37

Morning all! CD 7 here so just gearing up for shag week yet again!
Just managed to get myself an appointment with the GP for this afternoon to discuss the total lack of BFP. First time I've been since TTC. Any advice on what to expect/ask? Don't want to be fobbed off!

Also where is viv? Hope all is well.

2cats222 Fri 01-Feb-13 11:18:37

Hey ladies, have been awol (albeit stalking) for a few days but am now back. Looks like my cycle might be back on track, spotting gone, OPK's starting to get darker... Looks like this weekend we will be busy wink
Mother - damnit for the witch...on the plus side welcome to a shiny new cycle
bunny sorry but I am a creepy onesie wearer shock... SOOOO cosy. Not hugely attractive though...
boodle laughed out loud at 'Boodles ridiculous list of jealousy' - had forgotten about the moon, and now a car too!
Anyone else in the 2ww? I need some excitement. I know viv is... come back lady and let me symptom spot (ha ha ha grin) on your behalf! In the meantime if you're reading classics I assume you've all read the I pooed on my skirt at work one which had me literallly rolling with laughter www.mumsnet.com/Talk/mumsnet_classics/a1439461-I-pooed-on-my-skirt-at-work-today

SidneyBristow Fri 01-Feb-13 11:41:10

Happylass let us know your appt goes! I'm seeing a GP next week for the same reason. A bit nervous. Am getting a little paranoid that all I'll get is just get a pitying look.

2Cats Yay for shag weekend! 2ww'ing here, have had weird cramps for days, and sitting here watching OBEM. I am shameless. This wait feels really long already, so I'm willing to do anything to keep my mind off it all. Even cleaning out the cupboards and wardrobe, bleurgh.

2cats222 Fri 01-Feb-13 11:50:30

sidney exciting, how long til i can persuade you to poas how much more of a wait do you have?

SidneyBristow Fri 01-Feb-13 12:44:15

I'm on CD18, would love to POAS at the earliest possible chance but I remember how devastated I was when I got a shocking negative result on the one and only other pregnancy test I've ever taken, back last October. I cried for days and swore I wouldn't put myself through that again unless AF was like a week late or something. That being said, I really really want to!! Argh.

2cats222 Fri 01-Feb-13 13:22:00

argh sidney we're the total opposite, i would happily poas during af just for the fun of it (and i find knowing better than speculating!) Anyway you're clearly not mad like me so I will not encourage you don't worry. Anyway it's FAR too early yet

Aquarius1 Fri 01-Feb-13 13:53:03

"Quim" captain? That's a new one on me!!

So I'm in the 2ww - cd 27 of 30 day cycle. I haven't had the usual sore boobs but have had the usual bloating&wind,and according to dh am being a bit of a grouch....shock

Viv was my cycle buddy but i fear I've been abandoned hmm anyone else on similar cycle to me?

2cats222 Fri 01-Feb-13 14:14:53

Quim is Scottish isnt it??

2cats222 Fri 01-Feb-13 14:16:52

aquarius i dont suppose youre a poas-aholic like me?

Aquarius1 Fri 01-Feb-13 14:28:04

Not this month 2cats - am going to wait til cd31 and see what happens. If I start spewing before then I might test.

navis176 Fri 01-Feb-13 14:38:21

sidney - when are you going to poas - I'm cd 17 and can't wait either...didn't get to poas at all last month as af was early, so my addiction needs some serious feeding grin

SidneyBristow Fri 01-Feb-13 15:16:39

AF is due here on 12th Feb so I guess if it hasn't arrived by Valentine's Day, I'll test? or would that be insane? I've only ever POAS once, when I was 3 days late. How soon can you test and have it be accurate? Sometimes I think I'll never POAS until I miss 3 or 4 AFs and a mysterious bump appears on my abdomen - I got waaaay too upset last time, and just don't want to go there again. Wish I were more like you guys who POAS for fun and can take it all in stride!! envy

2cats222 Fri 01-Feb-13 15:57:28

realistically you should be able to test as soon as af is due/late (ie the day it is due) and get an accurate answer. Many people start testing well before then and it's not uncommon to get a BFP from 5 days before af is due. So testing 2 days after af is overdue wouldn't be insane at all. I understand it's crushing for af to be late AND then get a BFN as you have a serious sign/symptom that gets your hopes up! Because I test so early I never expect a BFP anyway!

2cats222 Fri 01-Feb-13 15:58:34

sidney most people aren't as crazy as me, don't worry! I absolutely understand why you would be upset. FX AF never arrives for you this time

navis176 Fri 01-Feb-13 16:13:47

sidney - waiting until 14th would be an entirely sane and sensible thing to do! It is what I was originally planning...but not sure if I'll hold out till then - I expect I'll cave in and test on 12th...(and a little voice in may head keeps telling me that even the 10th wouldn't be unreasonable - but I'm trying to ignore that for now grin)

Boodle9 Fri 01-Feb-13 18:11:17

2cats, the 'I pooed on my skirt' thread is utterly hilarious! I sniggered for ages at it - just my level of humour! This was my favourite:

Must share some poo anecdotes from my dd. Her friend had spent the night at a new boyfriend's flat - had only had a couple of dates. He had to go to work early in the morning so he told her to let herself out and just close the door behind her. She then did a poo in the loo and it wouldn't flush. She decided that it was far too embarrassing to leave it there festering all day to be found later so she fished it out of the loo and put it in a plastic bag. She then put it down on the side for a moment whilst she wrote him a note and then let herself out of the flat. As the door closed she realised she had left the poo, in a carrier bag, on the kitchen worktop next to the note! Couldn't get back in and of course, she never heard from him again!!

happylass, how did your appointment go?

Bunnygirlie Fri 01-Feb-13 18:13:28

Snap happy CD7 here too! How long you been trying? I was going to go to docs in jan but it doesn't feel justified till we've had a few more months of DTD ALOT afterDec and Jan being so disastrous.

Hope viv is ok!

Keeping everything crossed for all on the 2ww well not everything, making a baby would be very difficult otherwise grin

I wouldn't test till few days after AF due, I just hate being so disappointed by the BFN, so soul destroying sad

happylass Fri 01-Feb-13 18:13:36

Soooo the GP was lovely. Very positive and reassuring. Didn't really tell me a lot I didn't know; DTD 2-3 times a week, relax, 80% of people get pg within a year etc. Am getting my progesterone levels checked on day 19. She said we can't be referred until we've been TTC a year but she did say if nothing happens within a few months she'd be vague on how long we've been trying and refer us a little bit early. Feeling a lot more positive now just having spoken to someone in RL about it other than DP!

2cats222 Fri 01-Feb-13 18:29:07

boodle snap, that had me in tears thinking about how mortified the poor woman must have been and how puzzled he would have been gringrin
happy good news re your doc she sounds like she'll be in your corner if you need her

happylass Fri 01-Feb-13 18:50:01

Bunny I'm only on cycle 6 which I know isn't really a long time. But the fact that I'm 35 in 2 weeks has definitely been a factor in my going to the GP earlier than I otherwise would have done. Glad I've done something though, even if it just tells me if I'm OVing(which I'm certain that I am - OPKs, temperature, EWCM and OV pain can't all be wrong!!)

captainmoll Fri 01-Feb-13 21:21:51

Happy sounds like you have an excellent GP. In my small experience, that is a good part of the battle won already.

Pipbin Fri 01-Feb-13 21:25:34

Evening ladies. Still with AF here, seems to be much longer than usual by which I mean 5 days rather than 3.
Off to see two houses tomorrow. I'm actually bored of looking at houses now.

Other than that I have nothing to add to the thread really.

Bunnygirlie Fri 01-Feb-13 23:17:52

Happy house hunting pip

Just got back from watching Les Mis, lovely date night with hubby, glass of wine and nibbles in the cinema, dead posh! Very emotional though, not sure that was a good idea lol

Gosh pip 3 day af sounds lovely. Good luck with the house hunting, know it can be a tedious task at times, but a little gem might pop up today.

bunny cycle buddy! Your date sounds great. My bloke is ill and is really suffering so it's not looking great for this cycle (CD10 here)

happy, good news about nice doc potentially fudging the dates for you.

grin boodle that's hilarious! The whole thread is a corker.

Bunnygirlie Sat 02-Feb-13 10:16:28

Sorry to hear that thunder we were ill all Dec so that was crappy!

CD8 here and first deed done, hopefully DTD throughout the month rather than just round ov will take the pressure off for us.

Quick question on positions, reverse cowgirl is OHs fav position and best for him to finish if you know what I mean. But I have read stuff about girl on top not being good, just googled it and found one article about girl on top being best for penetration, so confusing! What do you think?

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Bunnygirlie Sat 02-Feb-13 10:27:17

Welcome back! Why the name change? Are you in witness protection wink

Aquarius1 Sat 02-Feb-13 11:30:36

[whispers] welcome back Gail - i just had to google that as i didn't know who she was and am now chortling to myself.... grin

i think i'm only 9 dpo but not too sure to be honest. i had an awful dream that I was supposed to be babysitting new born twins but they were all floppy and I didn't know what to feed them with... does that mean i'm pg & having twins? wink i often have anxiety dreams about not knowing how to look after babies...

Boodle9 Sat 02-Feb-13 12:54:13

Well hello, "Gail" if that is in fact your real name. wink Bunny, do you recommend Les Mis ? I'd like to see it but I'm not sure there's enough blow jobs money in the world the world that would drag my DH there! (Snorted at your witness protection comment too!)

As for TTC-compatible positions, surely if he ejaculates within a 3-foot range of your fanjo, you'll fall pregnant instantly? (Am channelling my year 9 sex ed teacher here) This is the reason I have not got pregnant yet; my DH keeps reaching climax on the curtains.

In reality, the general approach at our house is take it in turns to choose the position (yes, it is a proper sex democracy) except around 2-3 days leading up to ov, where I insist on classic missionary so I can laze around for half an hour afterwards, reading classics of course! I very much doubt it makes any difference though, and if reverse cowgirl is what he likes, then I'd stick with that mostly - maybe just mix it up once or twice around ov?

It's a lovely sunny day here - is it the same for all of you? I would like to go out and enjoy it but DH has buggered off for a few hours. He thinks he's watching the rugby when he gets back, but not without accompanying me out for a nice stroll!

captainmoll Sat 02-Feb-13 14:04:45

Hello <ahem> Gail my what a mighty bratwurst you have there..

Re positions, i go by the principle that quality orgasms for both parties is the most important thing, so what ever stands the best chance of getting you there really. You can always do the legs-up gravity dance after.

I loathed les mis, longest 15 hours of my life. But then I'm a cynical cow so don't mind me!

navis176 Sat 02-Feb-13 16:06:59

I agree with the others - I don't think the position matters as long as a successful conclusion is reached (so to speak grin). Then try doing a headstand or some such grin

I would complain about being p***ed off today - it's snowing so I couldn't see properly so was skiing like a numpty....but that's hardly a major problem in the grand scheme of things, so if that's the best I can come up with to complain about I should slap myself round the face with some kind of wurst...hope everyone else is having a lovely weekend

Bunnygirlie Sat 02-Feb-13 17:15:04

Oooh Aquarius what a weird dream.

Boodle I haven't seen the stage show of Les Mis but hubby has twice in his previous life so he didn't wanna see it but I persuaded him and we both loved it! (and both cried)

Ref positions, yep i jump straight off and lie on my back for half hour with cushion under my hips! Fingers crossed a week of this will do the trick (pleeeeeeeeeeease mother nature), like you said its what gets him to conclusion that matters I guess. And foreplay has deffo gone out the window!

Been lovely sunny day here but very cold, hubby out watching rugby at the local ground and then watching England rugby in the pub so just home alone chilling today!

captainmoll Sat 02-Feb-13 18:52:08

I once dreamt I had a baby that had david tennant's face. He kept demanding what his name was. I had no idea, and eventually, in desperation, I said "Rory Peacock! I'm calling you Rory Peacock!". He looked at me all sneery and said "that's a fucking stupid name." At which point I woke up, feeling very inadequate.

I also had a dream where I gave birth to twin boys. The doctor took them away, and on enquiry I was told he had named them David and Cameron. I was so angry I woke myself up with the rage! Stupid doctor. angry

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Aquarius1 Sat 02-Feb-13 21:37:41

captain that's hilarious about your dreams - disturbing but hilarious! I try &see the funny side in mine or else I'd think I was mad (probably am)

navis v jealous of you skiing

bunny hi ho silver

So far I've spent this w/e eating pâté, raw fish, Chinese food and the odd glass of fizz (courtesy of other people's catering - couldn't say no) guess no point avoiding these things til one is with child....

Boodle9 Sat 02-Feb-13 21:38:12

Captain I like to pride myself the weird dreams I have, but yours are giving me quite an inferiority complex! grin at Rory Peacock! Dream baby judges you!

Aquarius1 Sat 02-Feb-13 21:41:42

gail Saturday nights in are for watching box sets or playing on the wii. Actual Tv is really rubbish. I've been watching Heroes and consequently dreaming of having superpowers....and Peter petrelli grin

Bunnygirlie Sat 02-Feb-13 22:11:40

Woah captain those dreams are peculiar!

Hell yeah to the box sets aquarius we are currently working our way through Supernatural, some excellent eye candy and dream fodder :-)

Just watching Coyote Ugly, another pretty boy

navis176 Sat 02-Feb-13 23:03:22

oooo I love Heroes....currently working through Homeland but might need to move to that next!

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happylass Sat 02-Feb-13 23:36:39

Welcome back Gail whoever you may be wink

Had a lovely day viewing potential wedding venues and watching the rugby with some freebie tickets even though Wales were shocking

Slightly over indulged on the booze though so off to bed to kick start shag week. Night MNters

sazzababs Sun 03-Feb-13 08:34:45

Toddles in with some sausage rolls
Can I come back? I was a girly pain in the erse a wee while back and left as this whole shagging for a reason was starting to get to me just a tad! Decided to go all sciency this month (and the next 5 million), so I'm armed with piss-sticks and a thermometer... This also means that even when I DON'T have to be up at 6.30am for work in still up :/ Arse-biscuits!!

Hope everyone is well and enjoying their Sunday while I'm pissing about at work XD

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Bunnygirlie Sun 03-Feb-13 10:48:57

I cannot believe Viv got banned, what whiney old bags!!!! confused

Happy Sunday peeps! What are we all up to today then?

FX for all those awaiting BFP soon, and happy DTDing to my cycle buddies grin

Aquarius1 Sun 03-Feb-13 10:51:25

Ey up sazza don't mind if I do [scoffs sausage roll] sorry you're having to work on a Sunday

gail what does that mean re your temp? I've never temped- not organised enough- wondering if I should...

captainmoll Sun 03-Feb-13 11:27:32

Hi Sazza!
Gail - this is exciting news.. When will you be weeing on sticks? <raises intrigued eyebrow>

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2cats222 Sun 03-Feb-13 12:27:13

gail yey yey yey - it had suddenly dawned on me yesterday there may be a sinister reason for why you were quiet. Seems it is happening a lot at the mo. Humourless bags.

Anyway can we have a chart link so we can get excited on your behalf? My sister got really bad spots before finding out she was pregnant (she is one of the holy grail with perfect skin all of their life) and they continued until the day after my nephew was born.... So either it's a symptom (good) or you have forgotten to wash whilst in exile...

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Bunnygirlie Sun 03-Feb-13 15:18:02

Symptom spotter symptom spotter!!! <runs and hides behind sofa>

MotherOfCleo Sun 03-Feb-13 15:44:38

whats with these women who spend the night hugging a hot water bottle then get excited that they have a high temp! wink

<runs and hides before gail can't beat me to death with a cumberland whirl>

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Aquarius1 Sun 03-Feb-13 16:52:44

Love it grin c'mon Gail, take it on the chin (see what I did there wink)

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Aquarius1 Sun 03-Feb-13 17:26:13

gail I'm feeling perplexed and not particularly hopeful - I've no symptoms at all other than a bit of bloating which I put down to the amount of food i've consumed this w/e. dont even feel like af is on the way. I'm hoping /praying that, if it isn't my month this month, at least I won't have the dramatic fanfare of unbearable cramps (&diarrhoea) that I had last month...

Pipbin Sun 03-Feb-13 17:27:22

Evening ladies.
So we went to see one house that we weren't hopeful for and didn't like it. Went to see the second which we were expecting to love as we had loved the identical house next door and we knew this was coming on the market. But it had been 'done up'. by which I mean they pulled out everything that was nice and worth the extra and made it crap. So all despondent we went to my friends house round the corner for tea and cake. Found another house on Rightmove, phoned up, saw it straight away and put an offer in today. Which was accepted without a quibble!

All exciting. Can't be bothered to make a baby now. I'm too excited about the house.

Boodle9 Sun 03-Feb-13 17:27:49

Cor, it's rowdy in here for a Sunday afternoon! Well Gail, so far so good on the chart front. I shall keep my fingers crossed for you whilst I quietly sulk because I'm feeling distinctly PMS-y but without having ovulated this month. Damn it.

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Boodle9 Sun 03-Feb-13 18:24:16

Wow, Pip! Missed that earlier in the cross-posting! What fantastic luck! Very pleased for you and hope that the next stages go as smoothly as possible!

Gail, I'm not entirely sure now! I'm on CD18 and temps are still very low and no positive OPK achieved. I have ov'ed on CD18 before though so I guess it could still happen. If it does happen today/tomorrow then I expect to see AF arriving no later than 9 days later. 30th birthday is imminent and, knowing my luck, it will arrive then! I've had excellent form recently for having AF arrive on particularly depressing days! (Including a baby shower, birth of a baby, christening and Christmas Day! AF has a cruel sense of humour.)

It's human to get hopeful but I understand why you hate yourself for it. No helpful advice - just sit tight and wait it out. (And hope your head doesn't implode in the meantime.)

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Bunnygirlie Sun 03-Feb-13 18:56:23

Ouch <rubs back of head from sausage hit> guess I deserved that grin

pip how fab! Lovely to have something to take your mind off all this!

boodle I know what you mean, the witch arrived on my birthday last weekend, what a bitch!

I am hopeful for some sausage wanging BFPs this month!!!!!

Just suggested to hubby we go practice making babies and he's not in the mood angry so having a bath to escape from feeling annoyed. Will have to jump on in the morning so I then have 24hours before smear test tues morn, what fun!

Boodle9 Sun 03-Feb-13 19:06:28

Gail, yeah, I do have short lp every month. It's something I've raised with doctor but she just didn't want to hear it. Am hoping the fertility consultant will take me seriously (just waiting for appointment to come through). Anovulatory cycles aren't typical. I've had 2 over the last 15 cycles (this would be the third), which I'm led to believe is pretty normal.

In the hope that I might ovulate today or tomorrow, I really should go and get it on with DH. Have got loads of marking to do for tomorrow too though. Late night for me it is.

Oo bunny are you holding off dtd because of smear? Sorry to jump in with such a direct question but that caught my eye. I have one coming up too and it should be shag week if oh recovers in time so been wondering if there's any reason to abstain?

Ps hi gail and welcome back wink

2cats222 Sun 03-Feb-13 19:18:18

gail you're looking triphasic whoop whoop

captainmoll Sun 03-Feb-13 20:11:35

Great news Pip! That's how we found our house boat too - the unexpected last ditch viewing after a big disappointment.. Really hope it all goes smoothly.
Spotty Gail, also really hope your face is covered in the zits of joy and babyness! Fx for that.

Thunder, I'm pretty sure they request no sex within 24 hrs of a smear or similar as it messes up the cell samples. You'd probs end up having to have another one done.

Bunny - grr at unenthusiastic hubby. Jump his bones!

Boodle - I've found similar disinterest in short LP at the lower end of the medical food chain, but when I got to the head consultant and repeated the info again (as dep gynae had made weird inaccurate notes, I had to go through it v slowly and clearly) he was interested. So I think you have to just keep on saying it and eventually the right person hears you.

I'm watching Die Hard 2: Die Harder while dh cooks a delicious casserole. Perfect Sunday evening. Just wanted to share that with y'all.

Gosh I didn't know the no sex rule before smear. Bad week to book it. May be coming down with a bug or something to postpone it- not sure I'll get any dtd this week but if I do I'm going to make the most of it. Smear booked for cd 15. Doh!

Good work on the house pip - those little gems often turn up unexpected!

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MotherOfCleo Sun 03-Feb-13 20:59:52

haha gail one pout and I forgive the outragous symptom spotting wink

Seriously though I hope this is your month! I read something about viagra being a little unhelpful when TTC, something about the swimmers getring knackered too quick, so was a bit fearful but FX I was way off the mark! grin

Bunnygirlie Sun 03-Feb-13 21:01:57

thunder I don't think we need worry about what questions we ask here lol, in the leaflet I got with my letter telling me I'm due for smear test it says you can have sex but not to use any lubricants etc 24hours before the test.

CD9 here, smear due CD11 so I might just leave DTD till tues night, do you peeps think tht will be ok?

2cats222 Sun 03-Feb-13 21:12:13

gail a triphasic chart is not foolproof BUT stats here...

www.fertilityfriend.com/Faqs/Triphasic-Pattern-and-Pregnancy.html

Oh, I have no idea of this stuff bunny! Presumably that means if you don't use lubes etc you can dtd on the morning of the smear and still be ok?!

2cats222 Sun 03-Feb-13 21:14:50

gail I quote "triphasic pattern is 179% more frequent on a pregnancy chart" and "the probability of pregnancy is increased significantly when you see this pattern"

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2cats222 Sun 03-Feb-13 21:30:58

Sausage shuffling like a pro!!!

Really? Is it death or baby? Or can I just have a shag and get a smear test a few days later? I've done the abnormal test-must-burn-away-cells thingy, so they've got an eye on me altho not enough of an eye to remember to remind me to go this time

Bunnygirlie Sun 03-Feb-13 22:37:50

Death or baby, that sounds a tad scary!

I don't know whether or not to use ov sticks this month, doesn't it just add to the pressure?!?

2cats222 Sun 03-Feb-13 22:50:15

bunny I would have been miles out with my ov date if I hadn't used OPKs this month (still not happened but getting v close and the fun will be starting tonight in our house!) For me personally I found the pressure of wondering if we had timed it right was worse than the knowing we were in with a chance. But I am also the person who will POAS at the slightest <ahem> symptom... So I am slightly crazy anyway! More than anything I'm doing it in case I need evidence for the doc about us TTC seriously so we don't get fucked around and told to go away and relax etc once I do consult them...

2cats222 Sun 03-Feb-13 22:51:01

Oh and <puts on geeky statistics hat> stats are better for people temping and using OPKs. Just sayin!

MotherOfCleo Sun 03-Feb-13 23:52:11

I'm with you bunny when I came off the pill I had a 35 day cycle, followed by a 25, looking back we were way out timing wise those first few months, opks at least let me know that we are dtd at the right times.

MotherOfCleo Sun 03-Feb-13 23:53:18

doh wrong person, should say

Im with you 2cats

ooops

Pipbin Mon 04-Feb-13 00:00:01

I've never been told no sex before a smear.
That said I have them every six months so I don't actually read the info.

The people at the house we loved had a gorgeous two year old boy already and she was pregnant with number two. And I wasn't jealous or anything.

Bunnygirlie Mon 04-Feb-13 08:25:43

Maybe it's a fertile house pip!!!!!

Who am kidding, of course I will pee on an ov stick tomorrow CD11

2cats222 Mon 04-Feb-13 09:41:26

gail how's the temps this morn?

2cats222 Mon 04-Feb-13 10:26:15

Gah very cross this morning. 2 OPK's yesterday (AP and PM) nicely dark but not darker than the control. Pm was darker than the AM so all heading in the right direction. Was expecting a nice +ive this morning but it's much lighter. Looks like I missed my surge and timed the action too late angry

2cats222 Mon 04-Feb-13 10:41:18

Although having just read everything google would give me re. time between surge and ovulation I may still have a tiny chance. FFS you would think after this long I wouldn't still be making beginners mistakes! blush

SidneyBristow Mon 04-Feb-13 12:22:13

Pip congrats on the house! how exciting! I hope it's that easy for us when we're ready to move. Been looking at rightmove lately, getting a little depressed at how little we can afford here, compared to what we could afford in the US sad

2cats that would make me very cross too; there's so much pressure to hit the right mark - you never know though, maybe DTD today and hope for the best? A tiny chance is still a chance after all, right?

Thunder I'd rebook the smear if it were me. Even the worst shag is better than the best pap smear; not a hard choice really!

Captain v jealous of your Sunday night. I spent mine in a mood because my 2nd dinner in so many nights was ruined by a tantrumming stepson, this after an entire day spent cooking for stepkids and playing a neverending board game, spoiled by a tantrumming stepdaughter bc she lost. angry

CD21 here and trying not to think about what next week might bring. Felt very positive about it at the beginning but am now the opposite, like the rest of my life is going to be spent playing substitute mom (and probably a v poor one at that, in their eyes) to children who are oblivious to the contributions I make to their lives sad sad sad yes that noise you hear is the soft strain of violins playing at my pity party

2cats222 Mon 04-Feb-13 12:34:15

sidney poor you wine [hugs] You have every right to feel grumpy. Chin up - this cycle isn't over for you yet!

Pip so exciting about the house! Sounds like it was meant to be

navis176 Mon 04-Feb-13 12:38:04

Pip - congrats on the house, sounds really exciting!

2cats - it's got to be worth dtd today just in case?

Sidney - sorry your weekend wasn't great, really hope next week brings you positive news fx

Aquarius1 Mon 04-Feb-13 12:55:40

pip that's great news on the house front - I love unexpected results like that

sidney sorry you're feeling blue - best I can say is don't give up hope, you never know what's coming

I should probably have a word with myself along those lines too - af due today and hasn't arrived but have absolutely no symptoms other than a lot of cm. took a sneaky test last night which was negative... So not feeling hopeful hmm i hate the waiting!!!

2cats222 Mon 04-Feb-13 12:57:11

Luckily we dtd last night and will be certainly trying our luck again tonight. I'm mostly mad as I wanted this to be the 'perfect' cycle for illustration purposes for the docs (ie we're doing everything right). Arse

Am ever so slightly concerned somebody has cottoned on to gail as she's AWOL this morn

2cats222 Mon 04-Feb-13 12:58:27

aquarius can I get excited on your behalf? No better symptom than missing AF wink when are you POAS again??

Bunnygirlie Mon 04-Feb-13 13:00:29

sidney that doesn't sound like fun, having step-children must be so difficult

2cats Just give it a go anyway!!!

So who is next to POAS? Awaiting BFP or evil bitch?

SidneyBristow Mon 04-Feb-13 15:29:46

Thanks for the support, ladies. My SKs are great kids 99% of the time, but when they're horrible, they really go for it. They're here every other day or so, which I'm finding increasingly hard to handle, as it feels like I'm always "on duty" and never able to relax and just be Sidney, DH's wife, a good friend/daughter/sister etc. It's a very hard gig, all the responsibilities of being a mother but very little of the respect/affection/credit. They're good kids, but the baggage the situation brings is hard to swallow some of the time.

Anyway. I do have an urgent need to know what's going on with Gail's temp, so if there's any kind of cloak and daggerness going on, could she pretty please send up a smoke signal so we can all have an answer?

2cats I hear you on wanting to have the perfect cycle. That's where I am too, in prep for seeing a GP for the first time on Weds, mostly to discuss TTC. God forbid I get patted on the head and told to relax. Still, you never know - DTD bigtime and see what happens!

Bunny shall we do a CD poll? CD21 here, right in the center of a 2WW

2cats222 Mon 04-Feb-13 15:47:59

sidney good idea, I'm madly excited and have a feeling this is going to be a bfp cycle for lots of people on this thread (except me who can't seem to shag at the right time! wink)

Have started us off...
2 cats cd18 (of 35)
Sidney cd21
Aquarius AF due today
Bunny cd10 or 11
Boodle cd19
Gail cd29

If gail has been knocked off with a sausage (again) is there any way she/we can make contact??

SidneyBristow Mon 04-Feb-13 16:11:50

Fx for us all! Wouldn't it be great if we all came up with BFPs this month!!

I would think that if gail were banned (again?) then it might be that her IP address were getting flagged up as a previously banned poster's? So perhaps logging on from a different computer would work? It's all so weird isn't it.

Hi all,

Adding myself:

2 cats cd18 (of 35)
Sidney cd21
Aquarius AF due today
Bunny cd10 or 11
Thundercats cd12
Boodle cd19
Gail cd29

(although doesn't a cd list take a lot of updating?)

sidney I say grumble away, it certainly sounds like you need a good moan as it all sounds exhausting.

happylass Mon 04-Feb-13 17:26:28

Congrats Pip. Sorry to hear your having a tough time Sidney. Today I booked my wedding for August next year eeeek. Really need to get upduffed ASAP so I'm mot waddling down the aisle carrying ten tonnes of baby weight or even worse just about to give birth!

Adding myself

2 cats cd18 (of 35)
Sidney cd21
Aquarius AF due today
Bunny cd10 or 11
Thundercats cd12
Boodle cd19
Gail cd29
Happylass cd10 (of 26)

2cats222 Mon 04-Feb-13 18:14:14

happy SOOOOOO jealous... still got post wedding blues (4 weeks on)! IT really is the best day ever.

And because I like things to be neat (ahem, maybe except my house) I have ordered the list by how soon we can expect the BFP's;

Aquarius AF due today
Gail cd29
Sidney cd21
Boodle cd19
Thundercats cd12
Bunny cd10 or 11
Happylass cd10 (of 26)
2 cats cd18 (of 35)

And in the mystery of the disappearing Gail I am off to do some research. I think she may have been kidnapped. Will report back once I know more <puts magnifying glass in pocket, dons trilby, lights pipe and dashes out>

2cats222 Mon 04-Feb-13 18:16:26

<dashes back in> Gail has not updated her chart today. Is she <whispers> preggers???

2cats222 Mon 04-Feb-13 18:17:29

the only other alternative is that she has been kidnapped and imprisoned by mumsnet HQ....

janey1234 Mon 04-Feb-13 18:29:30

Pooped back in with a warning...
If you've lost Gail us graduates will be very angry indeed winkwink
Good luck for some BFP's this month

Aquarius1 Mon 04-Feb-13 18:33:42

happy that's very exciting about booking your wedding grin

2cats you forgot to take a sausage

I have nothing to report. My cycles vary from 25- 33 days- Iperiod said af due today but thats just based on average cycles so not necessarily accurate- might be later. Really puzzled by total lack of any pmt symptoms - not complaining mind - but makes me feel a bit hormone-less hmm

2cats222 Mon 04-Feb-13 18:37:34

aquarius I am not going to comment wink
janey may need you to round up the graduate troops & arm them with sausages... I think we need to fight back under the cover of darkness

SidneyBristow Mon 04-Feb-13 20:18:38

Thunder yep it is exhausting; I get whiplash trying to keep up with their different moods, harder still bc they're in and out so frequently (their mom's choice) that we never really get into a routine. Today was great, which we all needed, then again tacos make everything seem great. Sidney <--- Mexican food addict blush

Actually have been meaning to mention, we introduced my SKs to Thundercats last summer, and my stepson still goes around the house singing "Thunder cats are on a moose, thunder cats are loose!" grin

happy congrats!! We got married last year; it seems like a dream now, such an incredible day! Enjoy the planning stage as much as you can, bc the day-of goes by soooo quickly!

Aquarius I've had that same hormone-less feeling this last week, unless you count having the rage yesterday. Quietly excited for you with your total lack of symptoms...maybe that itself is a symptom!! Wait, are we spotting?? wink

GailPlattsChin Mon 04-Feb-13 20:40:05

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MotherOfCleo Mon 04-Feb-13 20:57:59

ahh gail Im sorry! If it helps my skins gone all teenage on me overnight, obviously coming out in sympathy with you!

You will have a baby hun, Im sure of it!

Warning rant alert! Cant bear to watch that 'abortion debate' program on bbc, who do they think they are judging people! When I was 17 I got pregnant, it was the first time I ever had sex, deciding to abort the baby was a horrendous decision and an awful experience BUT I wouldnt change it. At seventeen I was not in any way ready to be a mum, even now when I want to be a mum more than anything I dont regret my decision all those years ago. I want a baby with my OH living the life I lead now, in my house, with my friends, not as a seventeen year old with nothing to offer and no prospects. It should be a womans choice, every situation is different and I think the woman should be allowed to decide what is right for her. Sorry rant over!

SidneyBristow Mon 04-Feb-13 21:04:30

Oh no, Gail. I am so, so sorry. I really thought you had it in the bag this month. Please don't think that way - the world is full of surprises; don't give up! a thousand thanks for you, dear.