Couldn't stand a Fred with only a couple of posts left so I filled it up!
Here is the 13th installation of the Just Shagging saga. If you're a bit lazy relaxed in your approach to getting upduffed, come over here for a natter!
Fred rules;
1. Thou shalt shag as much as humanly possible in order to get upduffed.
2. Thou shalt not partake of OPKs, temping, or charting.
3. Thou shalt keep symptom spotting to a minimum.
4. Thou shalt share 
and 
with your fredmates where needed.
JSing lingo;
ERTD = Evil Red Tide of Dooooooommmmmmm. Or AF to most others.
Pant snot = Egg white cervical mucus.
Doing a kitten = Getting upduffed soon after joining (warning: may induce 
in other posters).
Viroid = This is you, dear poster. This is from the first JS thread when someone tried to type 'ladies' and it autocorrected to 'Viroids' - so there you go!
POAS = Pee On A Stick (of the pregnancy detecting kind, not from a tree). Also known as PIAR (Pee In A Ramekin - cos we're posh birds innit). Or PIATLH (Tea light holder) PIAWG (Wine glass) or anything else you care to pee in!
Shagging like something = JSing like a teenage nymphomaniac.
Giving a hooya = Giving a much needed slap to a fellow poster in danger of slipping into ttc obsession.
Contraband = Of COURSE none of us EVER partake of any silly opk's or temp charting. They are Contraband 
The link to Part 12 is HERE
The link to the latest grads thread is HERE
Happy shagging shaggers 
(DingDong in disguise)...it's me 
have nc'd as felt DingDong was too festive. So here, for one last time, are my stats...
Name: CurrerBelle
Age: 31
Location: Naarfolk
*Any DC?*: DS, 21mo. MiniBabyBelle: Just got BFP so about a week into existence!
*TTC for*: 2 months (BFP 28.12.12)
*Hooya me if*: I am the WORST early tester in the world! P on anything that stays still at 10dpo onwards!
PS; can you tell I'm on my own in the house and bored??
Jemima: got my bfp at cd29 on a FRER. Again the next day and again today 
. I have a 31 day cycle on average.
Name: addicted
Age: 25
Location: Am literally, hopefully anyday now about to move 90 miles...who am I kidding its NEVER going to happen over dramqtic much!
Any DCs: 2 dd's. dd1 10 months dd2 2.2 years
TTC: not very long I hate counting, and always get confuesd where to count from as I'm prone to mc. So do you count how long you've been trying since deciding you want another dc or from when you decied to give it another go after last mc? any rate, I dont really want to keep track.
Name: Andie
Age: 29
Location: Birmingham
Any DCs: DS 3yrs, DD 2yrs, DSSs 3.5yrs & 1.5yrs
TTC: 4 months
Name: CurrerBelle (Belle)
Age: 31
Location: Naarfolk
Any DC?: DS, 21mo. MiniBabyBelle: Just got BFP so about a week into existence!
TTC for: 2 months (BFP 28.12.12)
Name: Jemimahpuddleduck
Age: 25
Location: Somerset
Any DC? No
TTC: For First month... testing soon!
Name: Cookielove
Age: 30
Location: Herts
*Any DC?*: Nope
TTC: 3 months
Name: Furrybiscuit
Age: 27
Location: Glasgow
Any DC? No
TTC: For First month...took last pill 8th December
thanks currer. I dont like OBEM USA, I find them all over dramatic and annoying! I did watch every uk episode ever made as well as call the midwife when I was 38 weeks pg with dd2 in a desprate attempt to induce labour! didnt work 
dh is just putting lovefilm on the wii and hopefully we can calm these girls down, for some reason they are both so over excited and have so much energy today. all i want to do is curl up and sleep.
Thanks ding - absolutely no desire to start a third Fred so thanks for doing the honours!
CD25 here, expecting ertd anytime between now and Tuesday really. Not a hint either way as yet.
Ooh, MIL just arrived, have to do my dutiful DIL bit, catch up later
Second Bearface; just jump him. DH can't resist having his tummy lightly scratched (this has been known to wake him up from a deep, drunken sleep for sex ). Does your DP have an 'on switch?'
Name: soontobeburns
Age: 23 in Jan.
Any DC: No
TTC: 32 months.
OH has a low sperm count and I have ovarian cycsts (though not effecting fertility) been seeing the fertility specialist since Jan 2012 and been told we will need IVF 
but I am currently 18st 8lb and need to be 12st 13lb before I can get It!!
Hello Soontobe, Suede, *Furry and Addicted and everyone else who may be lurking.
Sorry to hear that Soontobe - hope you can make some inroads into getting ready for IVF soon.
Ding - like the Currer Belle, but can't keep up with the name changes!
Frog - maybe tomorrow will work anyway, but I would hang on till the end of MOTD if that is what is getting in the way. Maybe you could also play the rather manipulative new year's resolution game where you pick a res for yourself and then one for each other. I know what yours could be for Mr Frog . . . 
Good luck Jemimah.
Hey TenTon- I'm 34 in Jan and still no DC shuffles off to wallow in own misery BUT! I am still 33 for a bit yet.
andie my friend gave birth in america and from what she said it was incredibly medicalised eg epidural or nothing, scans every 2 weeks throughout most of pregnancy, all consultant led (not midwife) and she had to give birth flat on her back with legs in stirrups
Hello to all the new JSers! And massive congrats to Ding and Tenton on your new year BFP's!! I'm due a visit from the witch around 11 days time, but my massive order of IC's has arrived so got to decide how early to PIAR...
Name: Rockchick
Age: 28
Any DC: DS, 21 months
TTC: 4 months
<waves> to newbies
soontobe massive good luck to you - we'll be here to cheer you on all the way
ooh and happy new year everyone!
Welcome Elektra - happy shagging!
Hello all - Happy New Year to everyone! Hope we all get our BFPs in 2013.
Hang in there Frog - anyway, if you managed it today and you're oving at the mo, hat should be enough shouldn't it? And you DTD in previous days before, so I think you'll be okay. Shame you can'tsee the new year in with a bang though, so to speak 
Off to watch final episode of Homeland now and get ready for champagne fuelled New Year's Eve shagfest Tooting on my little trumpet for you all!
Hi SantaBearface cheers!
Name: Elecktra
Age: 29
Any DC: Nope!
TTC: 1 week - really doesn't sound long...although tbf we probably shouldn't be trying at all!
Elekra Welcome. Do tell why you think you shouldn't be trying?.... Please.
Welcome elektra
Can I have a hooya please ladies?? I piar about 2.30 this afternoon and thought I got the faintest of faint barely there practically nonexistent lines...BUT you really really had to squint and hold it to the light was running from window to window oh and it was after 15 mins when the test says it doesn't count after 10
It's not really a line is it? I'm being ridiculous aren't I??
Bear That's why I did it. It was going to be my roller derby name but it's already taken.
Kitten I'd go for no line. I read somewhere you should never believe a line that appears after ten minutes, especially if you have to angle it to the light, sonetimes you can see the strip that would react with your wee. If you do turn out to be pg then it'll be a nice surprise then.lol
Ha bear thanks but unfortunately we just saw the people we're going with a few hours ago and told them all about the quiet night in we had with MIL last night!
andie I think you're right, it's all too flaky so I'm going with no line - thanks for talking sense into me!
<in voice of Dory from Finding Nemo>
Just keep shagging, just keep shagging...
Kitten go with a no, have a drink. Even if it is your month, it won't make a jot of difference. Nothing crosses to the baby for a while. A few NYE drinks wouldn't hurt at all. When I was about 5 weeks with ds, two days before my bfp my mate and me drank a couple of bottle of pimms at a BBQ. All well. So relax, have a lovely time and piar again in a few days if the witch is late
God I'm a bad influence! <Joins the Bad Idea Bears>
Also, Frog, I think it will keep DP on his toes so he doesn't think you're just using him , he won't know when your ov day is (unless you've already told him - can't remember) and it can just become your default setting so you don't have to 'work back up to it' next month, AND you get to shag for fun! Sorry if I'm being presumptuous here, but just thought I'd point out the benefits.
Ding- am I a Bad Idea Bear or are they a different crew?
Ah no you're fine andie, exactly what I needed in fact! It's too easy to tie yourself in knots over things!
Arf at bear being a bad idea bear - aren't they the kinky ones?! Goes with the JSing theme I guess!
Yes, that probably is me, mainly because i know nuffink about anyfink. DTD! Yay - good times had by all concerned! (i.e. me and DH)
Happy new year to all...lets continue to jsing with intent and hope for a bucketload of bfps....
Happy new year shaggers!
Happy New Year, Shagging Viroids
Congrats jemima !! Yeyyyyyy!!
But....have you just done a kitten
Oooh congrats jemima sneaking a kitten in there nice work!
Welcome moist!
Hello my lovelies, how are you in this fab new year!! I had a pants new year, spent it alone, dh out with friends and my friend left early as she felt sick but on wards and up wards.
Congratulations all those with BFP
Hello Moist <waves>
Oh Cookie, that's a shame. If it's any consolation I didn't realise how close it was to 12 and went to the toilet so DH was on his own for the bongs. I was wondering why all the fireworks were going off so early! DH seemed a bit 
when I returned. I asked him why he hadn't said anything and he said he didn't realise I would be so long. (I wasn't!) We chuckled afterwards.
Oh dear and uneventful new years eve for some of us then.
Elektra83 i was on the depo injections 2 years ago, it took 7 months for my period to come back and another 3 for it to come back consistently, now that was a long wait I know yours won't be as long shitty depo Also my work colleague came of the pill and was pregnant the next month. So hopefully you'll be as lucky.
Ummmmmm.....I just caved and piar.....faint +ve....
Fuck!
Thanks girls yep got the twin pack so will do the other one tomorrow and hope for a darker line.
Argh I'm all shakey and confuddled now!
Hi, hope i dont mind a newby jumping in
I did exactly the same thing kitten had the faintest of faint lines on an IC an got all excited I was already a bit pissed by then, but my sober mond says I was clutxhing straws, now Im a bit scared to test AF was due today but no sign of the witch so far. Gonna piar in the morning. FX its a good result eeeek
Kitten
Welcome newbies
mrsbri that does sound tricky, so glad the most complicated thing I have to do is put the spuds on for DH & my dinner!
frog no symptoms really, but I've had a kind of low level niggly feeling that something wasn't quite right for a few days. Tbh though I've had a raging cold since before Xmas so any symptoms would most likely have been masked by feeling crappy anyway. The only other thing I noticed just this morning was that I've been having mild AF like cramps for a few days, but they're slightly different to normal - more central and lower down.
However I'm certainly not counting any chickens yet given that AF isn't even really due until tomorrow....
Hahah thanks frog and cookie I will try and pry the hubby off of his PS3 to start trying properly! Clearly anything to avoid the nasty period pains I get!
The last time I had a break (when I buggered my knee!) AF came back on time and in full force shudders so hoping the same will happen this time in terms of being on time.
I have ordered some pregnancy tests off of amazon today - still have a clear blue one in my bathroom (from when we had a scare during my break a few years ago)..Ohhh this seems so real...eeek!
I am debating ordering pregnancy test of Amazon, when i spoke to Dh about it, he said there is no point testing till i am two months late because by then it would be obvious and if its a bfn then it points to something else being wrong 
i think my DH is an IDIOT but i love him anyway.
my symptoms so far are bad gassy belly, over emotional, snotty nose every morning which doesnt turn into anything, aversion to smells I usually like, tiredness (I had a 2 hour nap today) oh and one day late with AF. I feel like Im preggo too....but what do I know, ive never been preggo before.
Also my cervix is high, soft and closed today, I thought if AF was imminent it was low and open???
God I hope I am preggo!
I may just go ahead and order them it's not like he'll actually know anyway he's in no position to judge at them moment as he keeps ordering stuff left right and centre
Santa your DH sounds like mine! Just to let you know my experience re pant snot was it was a little watery but there wasn't much of it and what i did have was definately not stringy .... I checked religiously
Wow mrsbri I never knew that about the immune system! Does explain why I've not been able to shift this cold though DH is excited - keeps rubbing my tummy and checking I'm ok, bless him
bear we're watching Up too - Even DH had tears in his eyes I was too busy scoffing my dinner . Oh and I get the clear but not stringy cm - i only ever had what I think was probably "proper" ewcm once, the first month off the pill.
cleo I have my fx for you!!
Oooooh I NEED this thread. I am on the January Bus one as well but as I have a history of getting too obsessed about TTC I don't temp, chart, do opks, check my cervix or any of those other things any more (actually never checked my cervix - not sure how or even if I actually want to!).
This is my first month of TTC for #4 and I just need to keep lighthearted and relaxed otherwise it DOES MY HEAD IN!!!
So what info do I need to add? <scrolls up to copy and paste>
Ok, here you all are with little ol' me at the bottom. I hope I've copied everyone in. Looks like I'm the oldest!
Name: addicted
Age: 25
Location: Am literally, hopefully anyday now about to move 90 miles...who am I kidding its NEVER going to happen over dramqtic much!
Any DCs: 2 dd's. dd1 10 months dd2 2.2 years
TTC: not very long I hate counting, and always get confuesd where to count from as I'm prone to mc. So do you count how long you've been trying since deciding you want another dc or from when you decied to give it another go after last mc? any rate, I dont really want to keep track.
Name: Andie
Age: 29
Location: Birmingham
Any DCs: DS 3yrs, DD 2yrs, DSSs 3.5yrs & 1.5yrs
TTC: 4 months
Name: CurrerBelle (Belle)
Age: 31
Location: Naarfolk
Any DC?: DS, 21mo. MiniBabyBelle: Just got BFP so about a week into existence!
TTC for: 2 months (BFP 28.12.12)
Name: Jemimahpuddleduck
Age: 25
Location: Somerset
Any DC? No
TTC: For First month... testing soon!
Name: Cookielove
Age: 30
Location: Herts
*Any DC?*: Nope
TTC: 3 months
Name: Furrybiscuit
Age: 27
Location: Glasgow
Any DC? No
TTC: For First month...took last pill 8th December
Name: kitten katzen
Age: 33
Location: West Sussex
Any DC?: nope
TTC: 8 months/9 cycles <tedious>
Name: [Santa] Bearface (clinging on to Christmas!)
Age: 33
Location: Essex
Any DC?: No.
TTC: 5 months
Name: MelodyCatsandKittens (although I'm not liking that name much so may change soon)
Age: 37 (please don't let me be the oldest!)
Location: Sussex
Any DC: 3 already...7,5 and 1.
TTC: First month
Happy New Year Everyone
Will try and buy some later, i have one test left from last month. Is there anything more disappointing then POAS and getting a BFN?? Total sadness!!
I think DH, thinks its easy to wait it out, he clearly is insane, i am always sitting on my hands desperate to test and telling myself not to, inevitably its always a negative and then i get the witch.
I know i won't be up duffed this month, as Dh was broken for so long
Hello Melody welcome
nothing worse than a bfn i actually like using opks as u at least get to see 2 lines on a peestick!
I really have no idea what a opks is, i am such a newbie when it comes to all this, all the lingo goes completely over my head. I realise i have been on this thread for 2 months and said nothing, so please give me a virtual slap, but i just don't don't know what you mean, also dpo that is lost me and other stuff too
Welcome melody
cookie you're so funny it must be like reading a foreign language when you don't know the acronyms!
Opk = ovulation predictor kit (the sticks you pee on to tell you when ov is imminent)
Dpo = days past ovulation
What else aren't you sure of...?
I said the same cookie once upon a time, opk is ovulation predictor kit.... I think, forgive me everyone if I'm wrong. The little sticks u wee on to see when ov is likely to occur. Meant to be banned on this thread....yeh right!! Lol.
And dpo is days past ovulation I think. As in, if you're on the first day of the two wk wait, you're 1dpo.
Thinking about it, yes it's like a ridiculous
Shag related code. I remember having absolutely no idea what an opk was but I was sure I needed it in my life! Haha
As for them being naughty sticks on this thread....I've tried, but being good really doesn't suit me.
So basically, the only code we need here is.... P in the V to get up the D!!
Ok, well i really am in the js stages, so i won't be using the opk's for now made a deal with DH which he just reminded me about but maybe in the near ish future i will.
Hmmm not sure what else i don't know but if another acronym pops up, i am just gonna ask, i've already outed myself as an unknower (i realise that is not English)
Frog - i actually had to think about that for a while
haha cookie that made me laugh!
If it helps, I just posted a thread which I think has disgusted many posters!
Ooo - thanks people for responding about the CM. I've never had EWCM as I imagine it should be, but that's good to know that other people are ovulating and don't necessarily have EWCM (egg white cervical mucus in case anyone is wondering!). Mine is clear and there's lots of it, but not stringy like egg white. (holds hands up for TMI)
Managed another go today with DH - that's now CD8, 9, 10 and 11! Thank goodness for holidays! I really want to just ov even more than I want a BFP this month as I just want to know that I am working! Hence I am using OPKs, but only to monitor my cycle really. Apart from that DH and I really are just getting it on at every opportunity.
Just off to read your post Elektra.
Has anyone heard from Hooya or Red recently? Hope they're okay.
Cycle day 8,9 etc..... The first day of your bleed (af, Aunt Flo!) is cycle day 1, cd1.
Cookie - I knew nothing at all when I first came on here, but I've learnt and am still learning lots. I asked all the same questions as you.
Ooo and what I meant was that DH and I have managed to have sex on all those days of this cycle.
Oh, ok this is all really helpful i am so glad i joined this thread
I didn't even realise what CM was or how it could aid you, my only defense is i am a neeeewbie
i worry myself with the amount of shit I waffle on about lol. I would never actually tell people face to face thag I am this much of a fruitloop!
Cookie until I joined this thread I thought I was the only one who had this stringy stuff and I often thought something was wrong. Some months I get it some months I don't. Funnily enough though now, I get excited when I have it, and I'm not grossed out by it anymore.
I wouldn't know half the things i do about all of this ttc without this thread. Nothing is a silly question and really everyone loves a tmi question!
Have also just realised that this is thread 13....so much for unlucky so far!!
Have begun 2 ww..... And am still in the throws of horrible cold. I actually hurt from coughing and sneezing .
Last night at the stroke of midnight as I'm spluttering away, DP said 'before you ask, no we are not having the first shag of the year in that state' haha. Booo spoil sport.
Trust it to be my ov day too. oh well, here's to a not very hopeful test in two weeks!! [confused
Saved you from insanity bear?? It's done the bloody opposite for me lol. Only joking.
I've been less stressed about the whole thing this month honest.... But I do daydream about the day I can come on here and post about my bfp.
Oh poor you Frog. Here - have a hot toddy. Always works for me. That and garlic in capsule form. You never know, you may well have DTD enough. Are you being a MOTD widow too at the mo?
Ha ha - I said to DH 'how long have we got till dinner cooks?' and he replied with 'Come on, then' and starts running off upstairs shedding clothes. Total nympho.
I have lots of strange movement in my lady bits at the mo so hoping that it is ov discomfort, but don't want to get my hopes up. Could be a urine infection I s'pose.
2ww = two week wait
Thank you
Two week wait cookie, sorry, between ovulation and time to test. the most agonising two week wait in the world!! Except people like me can't wait two weeks and end up wasting millions of tests by using them too early!!
Bear, yes Motd is on. I feel like its on every friggin nite!! I hate Saturday motd cos I know I have to wait for it to finish
No, I've only Dtd (done the deed cookie!) 4 times and two were at shit times. (One is always right after af cos I'm like a crazed horny thing on that day, lol)
Thanks everyone and 
Yes - come on the sixth sense!
the witch is here beyond gutted
Oh cleo sorry the witch got you
Oh poor you frogchops I hope you're taking meds and resting
Yes, rugby games aren't as long! I quite like football so am not too bothered - the joys of growing up with an older brother who loved football! Our PS3 is also wired through the main tv, I managed to convince him to buy a second tv which is in our room so I have somewhere to escape! He's normally not too bad, it's only because I bought him a new game that he is a little obsessed haha!
An in bed as we speak elektra. Poor DP had to sleep in another room last night, I was spluttering that much
I bought a game for him last year and he loved it. Batman I think but I'm sure I didn't see him till march! So no new games this year, lol.
Oh bless you! For the last few days I have been feeling nauseous and am working from home today, might do it for the rest of the week if I continue to feel this way! Poor you and DP!
Hahah, a couple of years ago I bought him a game and hardly saw him over the Christmas period! Thing is he is a pain to buy presents for so a game is always a safe bet haha! It's a big birthday for both of us this year (my 30th, his 40th) and I am already panicking as to what to do - thankfully I have about 11 months
We both have 30ths this year! His in a couple of weeks! we are going away for a few days so hopefully this cold will sod off and I can have my dirty holiday as planned!!
Hahaha! I shall keep my fingers crossed for you! Mine is in a couple of months, I'm hoping we are going away for it but I'm not sure as he hasn't looked at flights or anything - I want to go back to NYC!
Not wishing for much clearly...hehehe
Hi all. I'm joining in, if that's ok.
I was on one of these threads back in the summer, but then we decided to put TTC on hold to get married. The wedding is next weekend, and I'm currently lying in bed with (hopefully my last lot of) period pains, so it's game on!
If you're still doing a roll call (I did the 'reading first and last pages' thing), here's mine:
Name: TobyLerone
Age: 35
Any DC? : DS13, DD11
TTC since: Next week
Sorry to hear that the witch got you Cleo
You lot are as obsessed with CM as I am!!!
And I see a few too many are on the contraband OPKs! I joined this thread to get away from them .
Now I have a really TMI question (turn away now if you don't want to read it)
When we've DTD I get confused the following day about whether my pant snot is actually runny, wet CM or leakage from the swimmers the night before IYKWIM!!! So then I find it hard to know when I've actually ovulated as my CM would have dry up the day after.. Sorry if TMI, but I did warn you!
Welcome toby
melody a good way to tell the difference is that man juice will soak into the toilet paper a little and make it damp, whereas cm will sit on top and not really soak in at all <spends too long investigating knicker contents>
cleo that sonds just like my dh, although he has sorted out the mortgage (he works in finance) as in phoned and went through half of the application process before handing the phone over to me and letting me do the rest of it. Then its been me who chased them up, appointed solicitors, chased them, arranged to go and sign contracts, chased the mortgage some more, chased the estate agents to find out why its taking so long, phoned round removal companies for quotes, packed every box and bubble wrapped every fragile item. it was me who bought, wrapped and boxed up every christmas present, then unboxed and put the tree up when it was clear we werent going anywhere. its been me who has been stressed out over christmas whilst trying to have a lovelyu time with the girls, its been me who has delt with all the phone clls to the solicitors and agents. its me who has emaild him all the documentation so he could make a quick 5 minute phonecall and its me who is still waiting 1 hour 20 minutes later to see what the result of that phonecall was. and it will be me who will un pack every box and then do it all over again. not to mention its been me who has arranged every viewing, tidied the house and taken the girls out even at the most inconvienent of times (7pm when the girls should be going to bed, not wondering round tesco anyone!)
wow, that ended up in much more of a rant than I intended it to!
Oh addicted you poor thing what a complete bugger, it really is awful that people are allowed to pull out at the last minute like that. And and your DH for being as helpful as a chocolate teapot by the sounds of it....
Sorry it all went a bit wrong addicted....here's hoping you come bk and say its turned our just right!
Can sympathise with the useless DP....when we moved I also arranged EVERYTHING!! I'm sure men just have an issue with speaking to people!! Altho I'm glad I did, we would've ended up paying thousands more for our house if I'd have left him to it....he has no idea how to negotiate!!
Oh Addicted that is all so traumatic and annoying. I can sympathise with the lack of man action when it comes to getting anything organised. Let us know how you get on.
Cleo, jealous of your light periods. Mega TMI sorry... I soak through a super plus tampon in two hours on the first two days of every period. The getting up in the night to change myself is worse than feeding a newborn! Anyway, what I would say is that if it is different to what you normally experience I would test again in a day or two. I do g want to get your hopes up but you never know.
Melody x
Hello everyone just a quick hello to say happy new year, welcome to all the newbies, and congrats to the BFPs! I'm looking forward to getting home from holiday as I should have my scan date through by then (we get back Saturday night). Once the scan has happened I think I will start to relax a bit - I thought TTC was stressful (even though it was only a couple of months) but this early pregnancy lark is even worse. Grrrrr.
Addicted what a nightmare and huge disappointment for you with the house sale. I really really hope that things come good soon. Will keep my fx for you.
I tried that frog, I asked them to come up 2.5k hoping they would come up at least 1k and they point blank refused to even discuss it saying they just didnt have the money.
I've told the agent we cant afford any less than 145, and we really cant, that 5k means we cant afford the house were buying, which means we will have to pull out and find a new one which will incurr abandonment fees and new search fees as well as paying for all the work the solicitor has already done and will need to do (expensive solicitor, we needed them as they are the best and have ended up using them ever since but they are not cheep!
But all thoes fees plus the 5k in loss amount to around 10k which means we just cant afford to move, so they loose the house anyway. but they are calling our bluff and I dont want to loose them. I just cant face going on the market again and doing all the house viewings and tidying and unboxing and ...I just canbt do it
So, did they offer the 145 in the first place? Have they up'd the amount they originally offered? Their agent is either very very good and has told them to stick as you're pretty much between a rock and a hard place....or, they really can't afford it. Something tells me its the agent and that they really love your house. Also since they last lost out on your house, they clearly haven't found anything else that matched up to it. I know how tough this standing your ground business is though what a stress!
Are you on a timescale here? When do u need to let them know?
Hahaha. I love Andies response. That's pretty much what I wanted to say but I think I pussy footed around.
I'm laughing at the dog thinking you're steak too, and I'm also thinking that if I didn't have all of my symptoms before ov I'd be thinking too.
Hello all to hear all the crap your going through all addicted, hope you get the offer you deserve.
Good news from me, dh has returned after being away for 4 days JS can now continue.
Melody....when u master that trick, let me know how yeh??!!
Tuddles, fx for you!!
Omg melody, its like you actually live in my house!! Lol. I have this issue, altho I confiscate the iPad (bcos its mine!) and he just faffs about on his fone.
Having said that, I'm not actually bothered right now due to existing shitty flu.
Oh andie I hold your posts entirely responsible for inducing two separate coughing fits today....it's just what happens after I've laughed out loud. My chest feels like its been sat on by a rhino.
My DP isn't into halo and doesn't play online, but he does like it when I get involved with the odd 'shoot him' 'he's behind you' comment. Needless to say If I get fed up, I forget to alert him to any approaching 'baddies' lol.
And the iPad/phone faffing is one of my pet hates. Plenty of huffing and rolling over with the duvet dramatically in this house!!
Andie I find the easiest way to distract DH away from ps3/Xbox is to go for a shower then come downstairs and start putting body lotion on while just wrapped in a hand towel, all of a sudden his character dies or he finally manages to find a save point
Cookie glad he's home - let the JSing commence!!
Addicted it sounds like your new buyer really wants the house, yay! I suppose you have to weigh up the options as best as you can, if they won't budge on the extra you may lose the sale but if they want it badly enough they will just go for it. It sounds like they got annoyed by the bidding war that happened!
Bear I've bought that book, not started reading yet tho - glad you've got some tips from it already.
I've had stupid vomiting bug for the last 2 days - lovely start to the new year [grr] No idea when I ovulate but according to pink pad it was NYE - last time we DTD was 30th Dec so may have been in time but if I ov later than average then I'm screwed not in the way I want to be and will be another month wasted.
I had my wicked way with him in the end last night but I might have to try that tip next time Rockchick!
<makes mental note to give the stockinged leg picture a go at some point>
Hi CrackerJack
Me too Cleo! I need to figure out how to get hubby's 'other brain' to take over!
Poor you AndIfATenTonTruck I hope you get your sleep pattern sorted
Welcome Cracker I'm due AF on 10th so will be testing around the same time as you
Tenton when you feel the burst of energy DON'T try to take advantage of it, just do things that you can't avoid like work and leave DH to do everything else! Hope you feel a bit more perky soon
Hi cracker! (Waves)
Haha tenton.... Daniel Craig, mmmmmm. I've been having some decent dreams recently but DP said yday that the reason he's getting no sleep, apart from my coughing is that I'm talking all the way through them. I must not have said anything incriminating yet. It worries me though cos a lot of my weird dreams udually involve ex's, schoolgirl crushes, and general people they shouldn't!!
Hello Cracker - welcome!
Oh dear TenTon - I couldn't sleep last night either, but that's because I couldn't put down the fertility book I got in the post. I feel as if I know so much more. I feel armed with info! Lots of the questions I have been thinking about and asking were answered in there. I feel mentally so much less in the dark - would really recommend it. Even though this is just shagging, I don't think it hurts to know your body. I am so much more clued up on CM and ovulation.
TenTon - when this happens to me I try to get up at the time I'm supposed to be up for a couple of days before so that I can feel tired when not at work rather than not being able to get up the following week. I then see it through with no napping so I'm properly tired by the evening and sleep through. This works for me. Hope you manage to get it sorted.
Frog - my DH talks in his sleep and it's mostly nonsense which I can't understand. He also walks in his sleep and does a weird staring thing. It used to freak me out, but now I just chat away to him and pat his head to send him back to sleep. I wish I had your dreams though - mine are always about weird stuff like wild animals in places you don't expect, dragons and mythical creatures(!), underground bunkers - the more stressed I am the stranger they get. Would much prefer Daniel Craig!
Hi cracker <waves>
Just to fill you in, and let you all be very dissapointed in me! we caved, we weighed up the cost of loosing the house against the cost of borrowing more and it made financial sense and comon sense to up the mortgage by 5k and accept teh offer now rather than risk loosing the buyer and new house and not being able to afford to move full stop.
We're pushing to complete on the 5th of Feb and really hoping nothing else goes wrong!
I think I'm lucky in the gaming department, dh doesnt have an xbox, he does have a wii, but he prefers games like lego harry potter and pirates of the carribean! he also allowes the girls to join in with him even if it means he will ie and have to start again. and if I utter the words, I'm going to bed, before 10pm he will turn it off and loose the game rather than find a save point!
As useless as DH is at doing...well anything that involves organization, I think hes a keeper!
my legs are killing me this morning, i started a new fitness dvd yesterday morning, jillian michels 6 pack in 6 weeks and its a killer. I havent been to the gym since I had a seizure (long story, I wont bore you with details, or possibly scare any of you!) and am so out of shape. At least dh is doing it with me to keep me motivated see not a bad guy really!
Addicted, its not disappointing if u get what you want! Good that hopefully you can get moving and you'll still have ur dream house! 5th feb isn't far either, and possible! From looking around our house to the day we moved in was exactly 7 weeks (again this was due to my pushiness and organisation, and nothing to do with DP!) our estate agent even offered me a job on completion day, lol. Wish I'd taken it now!
My DP enjoys his games but isn't a huge gamer... He's more into films, but I'm terrible and can never stay awake through any film
aquark, i hate kids, they are snotty, whiny angd generally annoying!
there are only 4 children that i can honestlt say I enjoy spending time with, 1 my 5 yo brother, 2 my 2 yo sister, 3 my 2yo dd and 4 my 11mo dd.
i can honestly say having your own is very very diffrent, i used to work as a childminder pre kids and looking after your own is very very diffrent! and if i'm trying for my 3rd in 3 years having your own cant be all that bad can it?! that or i'm a sucker for punishment!
Oh dear Quark! My nephew once bit me on the bum - really hard and I cried lots and couldn't sit down for a bit - monster! He also bit his grandpa on the stomach. He's still not much better 5 years on. Some kids are lovely though. It all depends on their parents I find . . .
Cleo - gingers are wonderful and beautiful (just look at Team GB!) and we love them on this fred! We had a long old discussion about gingerism on the last fred and there's lots of gingers on this fred. I think you should be sucking up those ginger genes. p.s. I know you're only messing
Addicted - good on you. If that's what you have to do, then do it. Always do what's best for yourself in those situations because only you can look after yourself - others won't do it for you. Glad things are looking like they're getting sorted.
TMI alert! Don't read on if you don't want to know about CM.
Well, ladies, I am in mucus heaven! bet you never thought you'd hear that in your life I have creamy white CM today and, and, AND I got two lines on my ov stick so I think I am ovulating - hurrah! I've also had some discomfort in the ovulation region. Yesterday I had clear CM that was a tiny bit stringy and had some streaks of red in it, which I learnt from my book that it may be ovulation bleeding from when the egg bursts through the wall.
I know it might be a minor thing to other people, but it's really important to me as thought I was broken. So, DH is coming home tonight and prioritising shagging over biking.
Hello! Can I join in with the JSing please? I've copied and pasted the roll call (including one that was on its lonesome), and added me on the end:
Name: addicted
Age: 25
Location: Am literally, hopefully anyday now about to move 90 miles...who am I kidding its NEVER going to happen over dramqtic much!
Any DCs: 2 dd's. dd1 10 months dd2 2.2 years
TTC: not very long I hate counting, and always get confuesd where to count from as I'm prone to mc. So do you count how long you've been trying since deciding you want another dc or from when you decied to give it another go after last mc? any rate, I dont really want to keep track.
Name: Andie
Age: 29
Location: Birmingham
Any DCs: DS 3yrs, DD 2yrs, DSSs 3.5yrs & 1.5yrs
TTC: 4 months
Name: CurrerBelle (Belle)
Age: 31
Location: Naarfolk
Any DC?: DS, 21mo. MiniBabyBelle: Just got BFP so about a week into existence!
TTC for: 2 months (BFP 28.12.12)
Name: Jemimahpuddleduck
Age: 25
Location: Somerset
Any DC? No
TTC: For First month... testing soon!
Name: Cookielove
Age: 30
Location: Herts
*Any DC?*: Nope
TTC: 3 months
Name: Furrybiscuit
Age: 27
Location: Glasgow
Any DC? No
TTC: For First month...took last pill 8th December
Name: kitten katzen
Age: 33
Location: West Sussex
Any DC?: nope
TTC: 8 months/9 cycles <tedious>
Name: [Santa] Bearface (clinging on to Christmas!)
Age: 33
Location: Essex
Any DC?: No.
TTC: 5 months
Name: MelodyCatsandKittens (although I'm not liking that name much so may change soon)
Age: 37 (please don't let me be the oldest!)
Location: Sussex
Any DC: 3 already...7,5 and 1.
TTC: First month
Name: TobyLerone
Age: 35
Any DC? : DS13, DD11
TTC since: Next week
Name: HumptyDumptyBumpty
Age: 32
Location: London
Any DC?: No
TTC: 2 months (and nearly a third, as I think AF is coming to stay - have had some signs, had the WORST PMT yesterday)
Hiya Humpty
I haven't looked at pushchairs but have started a secret pinterest board for baby stuff! Bad me!
I actually dye my hair chestnut bear but the OH gets all tetchy when I mock his ginger beard, so of course I mock it a lot. As long as I have a happy healthy wee one it can be a ginger and freckly as it likes. elektra you made me chuckle, could be a good look
melody the witch flew in with purpose this morning I'm actually relieved as I was sick of being in limbo. I am back to CD1 and have BIG plans for this month I am taking no crap and WILL be preggo this time next month.
Did anyone see the couple desperate for a hi get baby on obem last night? Sorry if I'm late and this is where the convo stemmed!! I ocasssionalky spot a ginger hair amongst dps 'strawberry blond' stubble so its not impossible for us! I have dark hair and his is more mousey. I won't care though, ginger is trendy nowadays!
I must also say I haven't even thought about it looked at baby items, pushchairs, cots etc....I duno if that makes me good or bad! Lol. I have enquired about a carseat tho as my dm works in a shop that sells them! But I think that's allowed....isn't it?
*thats ginger, not hi get (??) stupid fone!
Cleo but I guess you know where you are now. Bummer though.
I really should know better than to be looking at baby stuff - this will be #4 for goodness sake but I really can't help myself when it comes to prams and pushchairs. Other stuff doesn't really make me obsessed bother me but pushchairs do. I do a lot of walking and I will need to have the right one for a baby and a toddler.
Frogchops I think it's better not to look at stuff until actually pg. When I was TTC fir #3 I got all double pushchair obsessed wanted to do my research about double buggies but it took me absolutely ages to become upduffed. So by the time #3 did come along, #2 was big enough to walk everywhere! So I had wasted loads of time and spent a lot of time living in an imaginary world of me pushing my lovely double along!
As well as JSing as much as poss (although, seriously, I do not have the time/energy for it as much as some of you viroids - how do you manage?! ) have also quit smoking (well, apart from one or two here and there), quit drinking (easy, not a massive drinker), and started eating lots of TTC-helpful foods. My last Ocado order was all veggies, fish, wholegrains, brazil nuts and vitamin supplements. The computer gets all sad, and keeps trying to persuade me I really need the usual bottle of wine, box of chocs, pate, cured meats etc.
What are your top up-duffing foods viroids (this is my fave autocorrect ever, btw)?
I think I'm missing something with the viroid thing
Good on you for quitting smoking Humpty - stick with it. I don't have any fave TTC foods, but I'm trying to eat as much fruit and veg as possible mainly to lose weight so that I can increase my chances of conceiving. I'm not massively overweight - just need to lose about half a stone to get into the right BMI, but I'm trying to use the Hairy Bikers'/Dieters' stuff to reduce my calorie and fat intake so it's not too painful. I don't drink much either - I'm such a lightweight cheap date I'm finding it quite easy to keep off the chocs and bad stuff at the moment probably because it's just after Christmas and I feel a bit fooded out. Trying to drink lots of water too as apparently it can help cervical fluid.
As for shagging - I'm on hols at the moment so have been able to get lots of time in and DH was off until today.
Oh ok, I get this now. thanks bear!!
As for foodies.... I need to lose about 1/2 stone - 10 lb ish to b in the right bmi section, but I am cheap at resisting nice things. Me and cake have a love/hate relationship. I'm not brilliant on the fruit and veg intake but I've never smoked and I don't drink (apart from really special occasions) so I don't think I'm too off the ideal wagon.
I dont smoke or drink apart from special occasions) I get a fair amount of exercise walking the puppy and do a Bokwa class once a week (used to be a gym bunny and do 3 or 4 classes a week, but I appreciate my home life with the man an pooch more now).
Ive done both WeightWatchers and SlimmingWorld and am quite careful about what I eat....although I am a crisp fiend! I love them. Im not overweight and my bmi is 25 exactly so all I can do is blame my dusty eggs and my OHs slow swimmers....they may need to stop and ask for directions or something.
Happy new year and happy new thread! DH and I returned from a holiday visit to my folks with nasty sinus infections and we've been down for the count for days. Arg. I'm working from home today with my kitties, soup and prescription drugs. Finally got pants snot while we were away, and we were not about to shag in the spare bedroom next to my parents' and no lock on the door, so we're out for the month unless some of his swimmers were hiding up in there for a few days. I can't just wait to feel healthy again!
OK, going back now to catch up on everything. Lots going on here, and lots of new faces
haha red that is awesome! God I hope I dont have old decrepid eggs eeeek scared now.
Redshoes that blog is hilarious! I think I will be going back to read her other posts! Thank you
Hello Red <waves> sorry you're not well. Hope you perk up soon and manage to get back to the JSing. There's a lot of illness going round - guess it's migrating between continents too!
It's funny isn't it, how some people have no qualms about shagging with parents/PILs next door, but others just couldn't! I'd be in the second camp, but I know some people just say 'Not ideal, but needs must'. I'd be afraid of making too much noise!
Off to have a look at the blog now.
Needs must, eh? Tuddles. I think it's all fair enough and good on you, but just makes me personally cringe as my PIL's house has such thin walls! I can hear them talking and breathing if they have a cold or something. You're braver than I am - I'd be celibate if I lived with PILs I think! Also, it makes me think of Gavin and Stacey when they're all sitting round the breakfast table and they can't help listening to G and S doing it and have to turn the radio on.
MORNING VIROIDS!
Just to cheer you 30+ people up... All three of my current DCs were conceived from 'dusty old eggs' in my 30s...so it's not all doom and gloom. Actually, I was 29 when I conceived the first - just remembered that bit! The first two conceptions were pretty quick, 2nd month of trying for DC1 and 1st month of trying for DC2. DC3 took forever 14 months to conceive so maybe that's not such a good example, but we got there in the end, without any fertility treatment. I'm trying to think that this one will be quick like the first two but I actually reckon it'll take a while again. I'll be on this thread when you lot have all graduated to some birth club thread
ohhh electra I'm 30 in march too! I want to be well and truly diffed by then though!
Oh to be 30 again!
Mines on the 15th! When's yours? I'm not married or engaged yet do have a mortgage and a puppy though so it would be nice to have achieved something monumental by my 30th.
Oh bless! Mine's on the 12th
Have the marriage and the mortgage too, no puppy but we have a tendency to "borrow" the neighbour's cat....she just likes to come into our house whenever she likes (we don't discourage her tbh!)
Cookie if you sign up to a pinterest account you can create on line pin boards. So if you see something you like on a website you can "pin it" to your pinboard and any time you click on that picture it will link you back to that website. You can also see what other people have pinned and you can re-pin that to your boards. You can follow people and you can let people follw you. It is a great place for getting ideas on loads of stuff. They have now brought in "secret boards" too so your followers can't see them. Great when you want to pin baby stuff and your friends don't know you are trying!
We lived with PIL for over a month earlier this year while our house had works done. Didn't JS once as their bedroom was right opposite ours and just couldn't do it! We rushed back to living in our house asap and lived there a few days without heating. We also lived off microwave meals for a week as we had no elec in the kitchen but were able to plug a microwave and fridge in in the hall! Never been so glad to get back to my own bed!
have fun wedding dress shopping Tuddles. I got married a year and a half ago and I wish I could do that again. Got the second dress I tried on and never tried on any massive princess dresses. Wish I had for the fun of it now!
Ha ha - we have twin beds at my PILs' Humpty but we were both saying just the other day how we quite like it for a night or two - we both get a decent night's sleep! In our own bed we often wrestle for the duvet and space despite it being a Kingsize (DH doesn't fit on a smaller one lengthways). I usually end up sleeping on the edge with a corner of the duvet, while DH sprawls everywhere. He is a big man, but it is beyond the joke sometimes as he seems to like sleeping diagonally across the bed. Once he woke up at the other end with his head by feet! No idea how that happened.
Also, I know some people do it on the floor and we have before, but it's just so uncomfortable - I love the bed and would choose it any day.
hi lovely ladies, I'm back! (it's livismum with a shiny new name for the new year) although not sure about it so feel free to suggest a new one
2012 was rubbish for me (mmc and erpc in June, mc at 6weeks in Nov) so I'm really hoping 2013 is kinder to me, normal af turned up in Dec (although took 5 weeks) and I well and truly donned my shag cape over Christmas! so currently cd23 but trying not to count the days minutes
hi to newbies (although not so new it's just me going awol!)
Tuddles - how did the wedding dress shopping go!!
Thanks Aquark i seem to already be hooked
The dress shop was unexpectedly shut
Bear, you just said a lot of things that I didn't even slightly understand (Sorry, bit of a ditz atm)
Oh no Tuddles - that's rubbish. Hope you took yourself off to do something nice as a bit of compensation.
Trying to guess which bits you aren't sure of so here goes:
'donning the cape'= the metaphorical shag cape that we all wear when we are shagging. Not sure why it's a cape - maybe because we're doing magic or something?!
'CD15' = cycle day 15 (days since the first day of my last period)
'chomping at the bit' = desperate to test/POAS
'banned OPKs' = banned ovulation predictor kits because it's just shagging!
<Hooya> = metaphorically slapping onesself in the face because you have been doing something you shouldn't.
Is that okay? Sorry if you knew some of this already. You're not a ditz - it takes a while to catch on with the lingo. I still haven't got some of it!
Tuddles thats rubbish that the shop was closed!! Did you book an appointment?
ok then, I'm on CD 27, but, it never gets that high.
Thank you Melody, you've explained it so well and now I completely understand
I haven't used the OV sticks
Glad to be of service Tuddles. I personally wouldn't bother with OPKs or taking your temp/charting. Been there, done that. I am lucky to have good CM (cervical mucus) so OPKs and temping didn't tell me anything I didn't already know. But some people don't have the physical signs of ov so these methods are useful to confirm whether ov is actually happening.
How long have you been TTC? If you're still in the early months, just carry on shagging (JS = just shagging) and don't worry about all that paraphernalia. Anyway, it's not allowed on this thread
Agree with Melody tuddles needs to POAS
I have bad luck with being walked in on!!
i remember when i was with my first boyfriend i stayed at his (his folks) house, i was trying to be all desirable and slept naked, was woken by his mum coming in the next morning to get the hoover!!! to this day im not sure what was covered by the sheet an what wasnt I just layed incredibly still and hoped she wouldnt notice the naked girl in her darling sons bed not sure she ever looked at me the same way again lol.
Did actually have the OHs mum walk in on us once, before we had a place of our own, honestly think she had no idea as we were on the sofa under a duvet, we were horrified though! Esp as she wanted him to go help her with something....can you imagine, sorry mum I cant Im naked from the waist down.....oops
thankfully we now have our own house complete with very very squeeky bed lol
tuddles have you POAS yet???? <drums fingers impatiently> we need to know all about any times the witch is even slightly late and results of any pee on a stick incidents, these are our fun obsessions lol
My XH's dad walked right in on us once. I was on top
Hehee these are making me laugh! Me and my DP used to do it all the time when we lived at his parents.....only now I realise how thin her walls are
That and the time she actually announced at a family party that she heard us
Thank god, we have our own house now.... I'm sure she's just jealous, lol
I haven't POASed yet. DP won't let me , I know it's only on it's 2nd day late but I'm never late, early maybe, but never late.
I don't have a walked in on story as such but: I sleep naked (just prefer it), and our nieces can running into room one morning swiftly followed by DPs sister. I'm not sure if I had managed to get everything covered up in time or not .
DP might be going out on his bike later so will POAS later if I can and then just get another test next week when I go back to work.
I've been TTC since September (I think) and have been on this thread since then, I had just never asked what those acronyms mean, I assumed the answers would all come to me at some point
This sounds good for u tuddles, be sure to let us know when the poas happens!!
I'm about 5/6 dpo.... With no symptoms whatsoever, so errrr.
Foreplay not four play!
I POAS a fair bit without telling my OH, I try to keep him away from the nitty gritty science of it no idea how to drop my conceive plus purchase into the conversation he knows we have to DTD lots when I say so, an that it has something to do with my eggs, he then knows when AF is due and if Im early/late etc....i dont want to disapoint him too when I get a BFN
sounds like a plan tuddles helps me stay sane
Oh dear i have lots of walked in stories even worse i have walked in on my parents <boak> and my sister and her husband <double boak> and DH and i have been caught by the police now we keep in the bedroom far less likely to get caught out there
I am off out tonight celebrating a friends 30th now do i get up of my arse and dye my hair, or not!! Problem is am sooo comfy and wearing fleecy tights they are lush and i don't know if i can be arsed to get up or not. Hmmmmmm ponders.
yep another here with plenty of being walked in on stories, worst time being mil walking in on us, I was straddled him (fully clothed!) but couldn't move given he was still............. um inside so had to talk to her in that position (still don't know if she knew, think not!) oh the joys of being young and not living together!
I have also poas without telling dh, after 5 pregnancies (3mc, 2DD's!) and many more poas occasions (dodgy cycles) he only says "oh right do another and see if it's darker in a couple of days" so don't bother him with the faint, is there really a line? ones!
No walk-in on stories here, but am sure we've been overheard! Especially as I have heard our next door neighbours doing it on numerous occasions!
Well, I've been having a bit of a wibble as got letter form docs today saying I need to redo my tests again, but no further explanation. Don't even know which CD I'm supposed to do it on. My docs are shit. But they're testing for prolactin and testosterone levels. Been doing some googling and found out it can affect estrogen levels and thus TTC. Feel like I shouldn't have had to go to google to find that out. It's what I pay my flippin national insurance for, but oh well . . .
Anyway, that aside, I have also had some bleeding today. I think I ov'd a few days ago and I've never had it before so think I may have had an implantation bleed. Trying not to get too excited (although burst into tears when I first saw it this pm!) and time will tell eh? But really have never had it before. It's very light and pinky/red. Anyone else experienced this?
Hope everyone is well. Any news Tuddles?
ohh bear that sounds promising, i had the same this month, I did get a very faint line tho so think it did TRY to implant, I think I had a chemical pregnancy. FX for u!!!
Ooh bearface sounds v promising <crosses fingers>
bear I would be so excited for you if this was your month, doctors be damned! Fingers crossed. We have an extremely uneventful weekend planned. 4:30 p, still in pajamas, taking advantage of the remnants of these sinus infections to do absolutely nothing.
I also have POAS without telling DH, but not to be sneaky, more because I was just confirming what I already knew, say, before a night of drinking . Speaking of peeing, 5 DPO, feeling absolutely positively...normal Next Friday is "AF due. Not here? Pee!" day. Not a moment earlier. Keep me in line!
I'll POAS next Fri too if no ERTD had scuppered my plans! so u have to wait to keep me company
<runs into thread>
Well, we caved and I POASed this morning.
It was a BFP!!!!!
I now have a valid excuse for calling chips sausages the other day
<rushes away again, because promised DP I wouldn't tell anyone>
Congratulations!
yay tuddles HUGE congrats!!!!
Yay congrats tuddles
Kitten did you get a bfp? I am trying to read back but keep getting confused laying on a beach for a week has addled my brain everything crossed for you!
Hello MrsBri how are you?
I am excited about POASing tomorrow
Yaayy tuddles mahoosive congrats to you!
<waves> at hooya, yep got a bfp on New Year's Day still hanging around here though as it's very early days still (4+3 today) and hardly anything in the way of symptoms yet. Not to mention the fact that you lot at fab and I don't want to leave you all!
Joining in the POAS chorus....come onnnnnn hooya POAS!!
Congratulations Tuddles, really pleased for you . My morning sickness usually kicks in at six weeks.
Hello to new ladies and people returning that I haven't met before <waves>
This is all very exciting.
Could someone give me a run down of who has a BFP this month, whose in 2WW and when they're testing? If I had the computer it would be quite easy to go back and check but DH is using it for work all day and it's really not so easy on my phone. I'm sure someone has the technical ability to pop it all in one post, pretty please. I'll bake a cake for you.., it would be lovely to have a sort of summary of where everyone is at.
I'm now in the two week wait. AF due Friday 18th.
M x
Could be as few as 3 or 4dpo MrsBri so I'm not jumping up and down to POAS yet. Before people say though, I know implantation bleeding is supposed to take place 7-9dpo but apparently this is rather like the mythical 'every woman ovulates on CD14' kind of thing and lots of womemn who have gone on to full term have said they got it at 3 or even 2dpo. I know it does seem unlikely, and I'm not kidding myself - it could have been anovulatory bleeding I know - but I'm just trying to hang in there with a tiny bit of hope, even if I am trying to at the same time convince myself that it is just mid-cycle spotting so I'm not so miserable when it actually is.
So, in answer to your question, MrsBri - I'm 13 days away from AF, but I may cave before then. You may want to put them down for a bit or your arms will get tired!
ohhh andie sounds promising, you sound like symptom cenral
Congrats, tuddles!
Congratulations Tuddles
Ironing, dinner and packed lunches done and DCs bathed. Just need to get the DCs to bed then a nice relaxing evening with DH. No more JSing though, not for a while, overdid it slightly in the run up to ov - poor DH looks exhausted
I am sitting firmly in the middle of my 2 week wait, Dh keeps saying to me your pregnant, or you could be pregnant, and i am pretty sure i am not. Not that i have any way of knowing, i due on a week on monday
Yes Tuddles, 2ww = 2 week wait, i had that explained to me 3 days ago
Thanks cookie, at least now I can say that I knew it but forgot it
some people cookie dont get many symptoms. My dog is like my shadow at the moment she has to be sat on me, if I move sofas she moves to follow me etc. The cats also weird, hes a moody loner kitty but I keep waking up to him curled up next to me on the bed. Im only cd4 so cant read anything into it, unless im secretly dr dolittle lol
Yaaay Kitten <does bfp happydance> congrats!
You are all so brilliant with your pompoms! I tested and your efforts are rewarded with... a faint bfp!!!!
Will need to see if it turns into a proper one or not but for now, a line is a line!
So much to catch up on... MrsBri glad you are feeling good and are here, there is no way I am leaving this thread no matter how pregnant I get
Andieand Bearface looks promising for both of you, exciting, I would of course never encourage you to test go on do it
Red how are you?
Thethree hello and here's to hoping for a much better 2013 for you!
Hello to everyone I haven't 'met' yet!
Now I have to go to work and not think about the fact that I am currently a bit pregnant! Hmmm...
whoop whoop hooya chuffed to bits for you!
ho cookie, no, sorry you said your OH said he thought you were pg but you wernt so sure, I just meant you might be but could have no symptoms?
Oh my goodness. So many bfps! I'm putting that down to the fact that I have joined the thread
Congratulations, all!
its great isnt it Toby! Can you please be my lucky charm and get me a BFP on the 1st feb....pretty pretty please. xx
Yay Tuddles and Hooya!! Utterly jealous, lovely way to start the new year
I'm due the witch in 4 days, not really got any symptoms although have had a few random twitches around my lower tummy - but had novo virus a couple of weeks ago so probably just random pains left over from that. Have been remembering to take my folic acid most days every day this cycle so at least I'm building up my reserves of that ready for when it's my month!
Electra my DS is nearly 2, he's amazing and so much fun but I do miss having a newborn to snuggle - toddlers don't make me broody but seeing a beautiful squishy newborn makes my uterus twitchy
Deal, Cleo! Maybe I'll get my own at the same time
Cracker, I felt completely normal too. Although feel slightly nauseous today, but that could be the panic setting in.
I'll try to remember that. Will try and see if he acts weirdly in about 9 months.
Back to work today
Omg hooya that's bloody brilliant!! This one has to be sticky <crosses everything>
tuddles by sticky we just mean a successful pregnancy - basically we hope the sticky vibes will ward off any early mc (which happen way more often than we'd like )
So sticky vibes for you and me too
Oh my look at all the drama I've missed!!
Congrats newly pregnant ladies!!!
Celebratory 
all round!
Am still sick from work and am about 7dpo and getting absolutely no symptoms apart from some ridiculously big spots on my face that I don't usually get prior to af and wanting to drink more (I don't usually drink anywhere near enough). Also im usually really tired all if tge time but i seem to not be tired and still be awake at 12/1am
I'm having the complete opposite if what you'd expect so not hopefull
Yay, yay, yay Hooya!!! That's brilliant news. So chuffed for you.
Rock and Elektra - newborns scare me a little as they're so dependent on you. I'm much happier once they are a few months old and more robust! I guess I haven't had much experience with newborns and a couple of babies I know have recently had to go into hospital with scares, so they make me twitchy in a different way.
Looks like this should be renamed the BFP thread! Me next, me next, me next
congrats hooya
talking of hooya can I have one please? it's CD27 here and 9/10dpo and these symptoms imaginary are doing my head in! I'm bloated (too much Xmas food) bigger boobs (ditto prob food related!) feel a bit sick (but I only if I really think about it) weird crampy/fluttery feelings (wind from Chinese last night!) but the really weird one that I can't have imagined was a bit of "moistness" from my nipples last night! very random I'm trying not to get hopes up! hooya please
Hello everyone!
I have done 2 4 tests now and all faint positive, does that mean I am proper pg then?
Rock and Cracker and Three and aQuark you're all coming up to testing time then? Exciting <crosses everything, gets comfy, gets popcorn in>
<hooyas> to all those symptom spotting! I am pg and have no symptoms at all! Even my boobs are the same as usual except comically white compared to the rest of me due to sunbathing in a bikini
Frog sorry you are poorly
Addicted this ttc lark makes us all a bit lot mental so I wouldn't worry about it!
Hey Elektra don't think we've met yet. Happy shagging to you and everyone else!
<runs off to as Dr Google about faint positives again>
Congrats Tuddles
Massive congrats to hooya, there's a pg after mc board on the pregnancy thread, they're lovely over there, I had no symptoms with this bfp & only poas as it was the day ertd was due (9 wks now & only yesterday did my boobs get the memo that I'm pg).
I also piar every other day for 2 weeks & used 4/5 clearblue digital to make sure it was progessing properly, so you can come sit on the crazy bench with me <pats spot on the bench then pats the orange unicorn>
frog hope you feel better soon.
Fingers crossed for all those close to testing!
I think thread 7 had a record 8 bfp's so get shagging ladies
Hooya yep you officially have a bun in the oven!!!
Loving gary's mention of the unicorn, made me lol.
Cool unicorn Gary - if it has babies can I have one as a pet?
Hi Quilty - nice to meet you.
Cling Frog, cling!
Am trying deperately not to symptom spot, but there's no getting away from fact that I feel a little woosy on and off. Can't remember who said it, but you're right, if I think about it, I feel sick probably norovirus
How many BFPs are we up to now? I'm going to compile a list form this thread because it makes me feel all important and like I am doing something useful Here's the ones I know/remember of late - sorry if I forget you, but do add yourself. Here goes:
Kittenkatzen
DingDongBelle
GaryBuseysTeeth
MrsBri
Tuddles
And our recent addition Hooya
Have I missed anyone?
Hello everyone pretty please can I join? Wasn't supposed to be ttc until march due to getting better maternity benefits but me and dp just couldn't help ourselves with it being so close so we have just decided to go for it anyway !! We can manage on smp so giving it a go this is my first official week of ttc
Name: dolly
Location : midlands
Dc:0
Ttc for : 1 week !!
Hope that's right ,looks like a lucky thread anyway with all the BFP's congrats everyone fingers crossed plenty more where they came from . So I am joining the 2ww ...... Here's to trying not go symptom spot
Dolly x
Hi Dolly. Welcome. <waves> Better get your shag cape on as there's work to be done!
Doh, sorry TenTon - there's just been so many!
Hi PinkLady - good to see you back agin. I just dropped my biscuit in my tea at the sight of your post - must be a sign!!!!
I was a fred 12 BFP too and now a fred 13 lurker...
Ooh I want to be one of thoooose points at hooya, kitten, waves, tenton, mrsbri, ding,.
I'm clinging bear, clinging like only a batshit mental clinger can cling. strokes unicorn
Hello newbies... Hope your prepared for this thread to steal your sanity.
Mrsbri has maybe definitely possibly who am I kidding to test on fri. It will be 11 dpo I think. I'm sure I ov'd on new yrs eve. Really I should wait, but being as ding isn't around as much, I'll supply the 'drama'.
<dons shag cape>
<waves to everyone>
Ready now time to take this seriously there certainly is a lot of work to be done!
AF due jan 24th so I will be testing around then x
I'm testing Friday too definitely not tomorrow
and redshoes said she would poas on Friday too! I sense a mass pee (sounds a bit wrong!) coming on!
Hello Cortana - good to see you made it. I'm sure everyone else will appear soon. They're probably DTD as lots of people here seem to like doing it while dinner cooks!
Mother - sorry i got all confused yes, your right i could be pregnant with no symptoms but i think DH is just saying it cause he has suddenly taken a huge interest in this whole baby thing, when we first got together several hundred years ago he didn't want kids or to get married, and we got married 4 months ago and he keeps telling me now that he wants my babies and that i am pregnant
Although i really don't think i am pregnant
<waves> at cortana wishing you a quick exit from the clutches of the witch and a speedy bfp
GUESS WHAT!!
nothing really, just practising in the drama cloak!!
Hi cortana, I'm loving the suggestion of an actual arse licking emoticon.
Anyhow, am sitting here doing sod all whole DP does the ironing. Ha! Yes that's right, it is for this very reason that I will birth his children. Ebloodyventually.
I really shouldn't sit doing nothing because now I'm pondering over ones boobicles wondering if they hurt
Squeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!! Check out all the BFPS congratulations to everyone
I have nothing to report, was just excited to see all the news!! <wee happy toe tappy dance>
got the arse part but no lick! Welcome cortana, hope ERTD pisses orf soon.
Bear, the unicorn says 'NAY' to you getting a uni-baby, until you've got your bfp & have your JS baby...then you can decide if you're ready for baby & unicorn. You'd have to stick a cork on top of its horn.
Btw I got my BFP 9dpo....so looking forward to everyone peeing on friday (in a non-pervy way, can't say the same for the unicorn, horny bastard).
<relurks>
Melody and Bear Wait for me?? My POAS day is the 19th.
Yesterday's hopeful symptoms have transpired to be a stomach upset which has left me knackered with a very sore core from retching and straining the muscles. Even DP, who has been playing it cool for the sake of my sanity, said he was disappointed it wasn't preggo symptoms.
Spent this evening watching last night's Got to Dance as Ashley Banjo always cheers me up. Then my cousin posted a YouTube link to Tom from McFly's wedding speech....DP has a lot to live up to now I've seen that!
PMT symptoms have hit with a vengeance this morning. Sore, twingy boobs, bloated and very moody. AF isn't due till Thursday so there's still hope I guess, but I'm not to optimistic.
frogchops I've also heard that toothpaste works on spots - but even if it doesn't at least you'll be more minty fresh than you've ever been before - its win/win really...!
I even managed to look stupid aaand don the cape! Now that's multi tasking!!
How wrong is it that I am tempted to test now?!
I was telling a colleague about the nausea/hungry feeling (been nauseous all day, then weak from not eating, when I ate my lunch it was like I was staving and wolfed down my lunch! Now back to feeling nauseous) she reckons it's all pregnancy related...obviously am also a bit paranoid about the heavy/sore boobs etc too.
what's worse is that I know I have the cheaper pg tests from Amazon now too...
Ooh I'm so tempted now too elektra! I wasn't even thinking about it at 3,4,5 dpo but now I am. I'm 8 I think today and itching!! I think it's because in home alone and pretty fed up. I might be ok tomorrow as I'm at work. DP goes out on tue and wed nites so they will be a massive test for me
I absolutely did not POAS today, defiantly didn't waste one of my 2pk that were supposed to wait till Fri, no way I'd pee as soon as I got home from asda (not even fmu! ) nope no way I'd be silly enough for that! just did it because it's cd28 but pretty sure I'm only 10dpo max! bfn unsurprisingly! I promise I'll keep the other one till Fri (defiantly won't go get 2 more on Thursday!)
I need to do a vote.... At 11dpo do you think it's too early to test?? Am due af on 14th...is 11th too early. Be honest, I won't be grumpy if anyone says yes!
I think by continually talking about it...it's actually stopping be from caving and doing it!
I would say frog it depends on if it's just a cheapy test (mine was earlier so not too much of waste!) but then a more sensitive test might show earlier! think my bfn has made me scale down the "strength" of my symptoms, so maybe not a complete waste! yep that's all of no help whatsoever x
congrats lady I tend to take a break from here every now again to "refocus" this ttc lark can be tough going, wishing u a boring and uneventful pregnancy!
Woo hoo congrats LadyFlump!!!
Woop congrats ladyflump
frog actually I did an Internet cheapie at 11dpo (not fmu) and got the ridiculously faint, proper squinty line that I posted about on here. I discounted it as it was so faint and also after the 10min limit...and then went out drinking for NYE
Did frer the next day 12dpo (also not fmu) and got a proper bfp
I have leaking nipples.......................wtf? it's only if I squeeze them but definitely clear/white liquid coming out! can I please come in the cave to hide for a few days? got some leftover Christmas cake I could bring
Where are you in your cycle threeblondies?
Elektra - really hope so for you.
TMI alert - I've got an increase in creamy CM which is also meant to be a sign. Have picked up on the tiredness front after a pint of squash , but still feeling cream crackered.
Haw haw - had to share this. DH just rushed in and announced he was off for a 15 minute run after being on his bike .He then promptly whipped off his cycling shorts (leaving him in the nudder on the lower half) and disappeared round the corner into the hallway. Then I heard the door shut! Hope he put something on!!!!! Yesterday he told me that a police car had beeped him while he was running - we thought it was a friend who's in the police, but now I'm wondering . . .
have fun in the cave ladies, im only on CD7 (or is it 6) so cant even bluff my way in.....ive ordered you some dominoes an arranged delivery though
I certainly hope he wore clothes bear!! Is it bad that actually I wasn't bothered about him, I just thought the swimmers would get nippy!!
I know I've said I'm feeling diddly squat nothing with regards symptoms but actually if I add up everything I've moaned about....there's heavy boobs, ridiculous spots, more toilet visits, being gassy (from both ends ) strange change of energy from my normal knackered self, a funny 'pulling' feeling inside and as I type this I'm cramping in the right ovary area. So errr .....
Hooya please.....am clearly making it all up.
melody i'll bake some cookies and buy some marshmallows we can toast, i'll start preparing for my trip to the cave now, im happy with that little flat spot to the right of the fire
<do we seems slightly crazy?>
Hello ladies am new to this thread, am from due bfp in jan but me & dp going for a new approach this month & that's no opks or any worrying, just shagging I'm on cycle 5, am 33 & have dd who's 5. What about all of you? X
Choco CP is chemical pregnancy.
According to my apps (yes I have 2...) I'm either due ERTD tomorrow or Friday - no idea why there's a difference!! So am going to do an IC first thing tomorrow if I remember, although as I usually wake up and nip for a wee with my eyes practically still closed I can't guarantee I'll remember! No symptoms of pregnancy but no symptoms of AF either... When I had DS I didn't find out until I was 6 weeks though as just felt normal until I realised I was two weeks late
Hiya, gals! Congrats ladyflump and hooya!!!! All is well here across the pond.
Been symptom spotting like a nut staying cool, calm and collected until Friday, P day (like D day, but on a stick). I am waiting for you thethreeblondies so save your other test! But unlike you with your leaky nips I have no symptoms. Maybe some cramps? Or maybe it is just indigestion. I don’t know. I stared at my boobs in the mirror last night until I had myself convinced they were larger and veinier (is that a word?) than usual. Then I charged into the bedroom and woke my husband up to investigate. He was so startled he thought there was an intruder in the house. He said they looked normal and to “go to damn bed.”
I have a baby shower to go to on Saturday. Depending on how P day goes, I could be blissful or bitter. Just kidding. Maybe.
I haven't had eczema since I was about 5, and now I randomly have it on my tummy
I miss it here , but feel like a phoney if I stay
I have 2 apps too ......... although slightly useless now
Oh I'm totally slightly obsessed, Cleo. I think we are all slightly totally crazy. I'm going to be in that cave there for some time! Everyone's welcome. I now have a cold and have woken up still feeling really tired - even after nearly 9 hours' sleep. I need a massive Hooya!
Any news yet Rock?
Ha ha - I've done that Red with the boobs. Didn't ask DH though!
My DH does make me laugh! I know Frog what you mean about keeping the swimmers warm - never mind his dignity! He came in wearing clothes so either he stole from someone or he very quickly put his running tights on in the hallway. (Tights - I know )
Threeblondies - sounds very promising at only 10dpo! When can you POAS?
Hope everyone else is well.
P.S. Tuddles - feel for you with the eczema. E45 is a winner for mild eczema (i.e. where the skin isn't broken) and Sanex shower gel or a shower gel with a ph neutral formula is best for me (sorry if you already know that)
They can be so sensitive men, can't they Elektra? I would be glad for mine to get a bit bigger. I'm not tiny, but there's definitely room for improvement!
I'm staying in the cave Elektra but afraid of being hooyaed to death. It's a chance I'll have to take . . . Thank goodness it's a pretend cave
Hahaha! Men are generally a little bit odd
My mother used to wonder what I would do when pg as my boobs would be massive (I'm a little blessed in that department)...lovely!
I think I should stay in the cave forever for a long time, especially when I noticed the smell!
I definitely need a hooya right now!
BFN
I've been incredibly emotional so far today (don't get that before AF) but as DH pointed out it could just be that I'm disappointed by no BFP and that's why I've ended up in tears twice this morning, rather than crazy pregnancy hormones!
When I woke up today DH says "Oh! Your boobs look bigger" than I sat up and he says "No, was just the angle" GRRRR.
Anyway, feeling a bit bloated today, but that's probably cause I ate crap last night. Af is due tomorrow, but I'm going to try and hold out till Friday to test, as I'll be busy tomorrow running around with work. Fingers crossed.
Sorry to hear that Rockchick
Oh bless Crackerjack! I shall keep my fingers crossed for you! AF is due next week for me and a friend keeps suggesting to take a test now...! I was going to and then had a chat with OH who said to wait until "wibble week" and see where we get to.
God help it if I am pg, I have eaten nothing but rubbish and drinking over xmas (haven't had any alcohol since Saturday though but the bad food has continued!). Diet definitely starts next week!
Oh lots to catch up on!
Congrats ladyflump hope you are ok.
Can I join the cave, I will bring boxes of Malteasers and tubes of pringles. Can we also have a pet unicorn baby for the cave??
I am feeling very naseous and boobs hurt. Constantly yawning my head off and I too Frog am very windy!
Still 5 days away from ERTD but bought some cheapie boots tests today. Wanted a FRER so I could test early but they didn't have any. Might try and test anyway when DH is out tonight even though I know it will be a bfn
I'm going to drown myself in hot chocolate. I've just made a big decision. If I'm not preggers this month I'm hopping of the TTC wagon for a while. DP is a self employed contractor and work's dried up so we need to concentrate on trawling the (sparse) job market for a while. Feel very sad. DP has of course taken it as a personal insult that not only can't he "give" me a baby but he can't "provide" either. Men!!
Forgot to add Andie poor you, tough decision, but I found it good to put a date on it - we were going to stop in May if no luck before then.
Though I must emit a childish giggle at the thought of you both trying to look for jobs but getting all distracted by shagging instead
Rock - I'm so sorry. It's horrible when you're convinced it's your month and then it doesn't happen.
Crackerjack - I think my DH wouldn't know unless my boobs got drastically bigger. They like to think they're the experts on boobs though, don't they? Bless 'em.
I keep doing that with the diet and just ate a whole load of crisps. They're meant to be for friends coming over this evening. I really need to learn more self-restraint. I was doing so well before Christmas too. I actually lost wieght over Christmas from rushing around but am steadily putting it back on again now! Hmph.
Sorry for your decision Andie. It's hard when the decision has to be made for practical reasons rather than emotional ones. Hopefully work will pick up and you can start again soon. OR you might get your BFP this month!!! Crossing all for you.
Glad you have managed to convince DH Notso - two babies?! You must have some sway with your DH. I want three sigh but just getting one seems to be enough of a problem. Blub My DH only wants two but if I can finally manage to get this whole pregnancy thing off the ground then I've decided it'll be three.
hello , bit of a mumsnet virgin but thought I'd try this thread out as ttc is one thing I can't talk to anyone but dh about, friends and family will just keep asking and don't want the pressure! We are going to start trying this weekend and am obsessing a little, doing far too much web research on my day off!
All my friends got pregnant easily (scared i will be the one that doesnt) have babies and have all told me far too much detail about childbirth over the last two years I am petrified and have been put off, but thought I should start trying as I would love to have kids, it's the process to get there that scares me! I hope joining a couple of threads like this will help me stay sane, any tips welcome! !
Ps - Also founds out that my private healthcare doesn't cover anything but "childbirth complications" and local hospital has mixed feedback, does anyone know of a policy that covers you from the start of pregnancy? Hooya you mention you have one?
Blimey Quark - technology - gah! Get peeing! Thank goodness for boredom at work otherwise you might not have found out!
Hi Gecko snap, I can only talk to my OH and he's deffo not obsessive like me. My best mate knows too but I'm sure she doesn't want to listen to me constantly. That leaves me typing on MN
I worked it out the other day and mostly my friends have needed 6/7 months to get a bun in the oven, I am on month 4, but the first 2 months were JSing where as I'm more specific with my timing now does not use the forbidden words TTC
Also don't listen to your friends, most mums kind of forget about childbirth once they have the bubba in their arms, apart form my evil ex friend who was scared to tell people as she said it it was so awful....turns out she had to be cut and had 5 stitches..I was expecting far worse from all her fuss! she is an immense drama queen though Plus she is now upduffed with bubba number 2 and her DS is only 13 months. Us women are made of stern stuff I really want a family and I am currently not at all worried about childbirth, it will be worth it when I have someone please make it a baby girl to call me mummy.
I don't know about healthcare, I don't have private cover so will be NHSing it all the way.
Thanks, feeling much better now! And breathe!!!
Gecko as far as I'm aware none of the UK healthcare providers offer maternity cover apart from for complications, generally it's only if you're covered by an international policy and even those have a clause where you must have the policy in place for a specific time (a year or 2) before fallin pregnant. My own experience with the NHS when I had DS was outstanding, couldn't fault them. Depending on your reasons for preferring private maternity care you may have to either pay (I've not used but have heard figures quoted around £12k excluding things like caesarean) or you could hire an independent midwife which would be closer to £2k.
Thanks all for the sympathy, am going to test again tomorrow if there's still no sign of AF - cant believe I'm the resident JS pensioner
Bear...altogether would be 4 dc for us. Dh in the past suffered with anxiety but as he gets older he is getting more confident in handling bad situations. I used my charm--nagging and being demented-- but from agreeing to have 2 babies to actually js when needed instead of messing with music is a completely different history.....
I know it is silly and I many want their first but I am trying to be positive again and I will grab and hold any bit of good news....including bfps for everyone here!!! So stop reading , get your capes and jsing ladies
Hooya scan tomorrow!!! Wow!!! Come and tell us straight away!!!
Gecko welcome!!!
Andy sorry for the whole thing....
If we have a unicorn can I please get a nice fairy granting wishes????
Oh no - I wasn't taking away from what you were saying about wanting another notso - every baby is special to their parents. It doesn't matter that others are on their first and you're on 3 - it affects us all in the same way, doesn't it?
<hands shimmery Golden Head JSer Cape to rockchick>
Andie i hope you get your BFP this month and everything sorts it self out
Helloo Gecko <waves manically>
I seem to be getting into a twist with how long my cycle is i have always counted from beginning to beginning, and my friend tells me i should be counting end to beginning, who's right?
You are right cookie - day 1 is the first day of proper red bleeding (spotting doesn't count). So that makes the last day of your cycle the day before your next AF (which obviously you won't know till it's happened. So if AF arrives on CD28, then that day becomes CD1 and you have just had a 27 day cycle.
HTH
well i went to the docs today for my blood test results done after I thought i missed a period everything is within normal ranges and my doc was lovely, he said he saw no reason I should conceive easily but said he would be happy to refer me if i ever felt the need feel good to know in some way im normal lol
<changes out of tatty converse into glittery heels and shimmery cape> twirls how does it look???
Bear...I totally got you!!! Don't worry
Rock your cape is looking glam hun!!!
Melody...not a hooya but a cuppa and a coconut cake so you feel better because your ( and mine) day will come...
Motherofcleo...to be told you are normal is a very good thing isn't???
Thanks Notso
Melody - can you order me one too? I totally understand your reaction and yes, it is quite mean, BUT it's a really human reaction too. It's understandable to be jealous. I try really hard not to be, but I can't help it sometimes. Although at the same time it doesn't stop me from being happy for people. I just wish I could join in the happiness too. My friend's dad has just been diagnosed with what looks like terminal cancer and I keep feeling guilty for thinking about myself and TTC. I feel really selfish, but it doesn't stop me from doing it. I guess I just need to separate them in my head. One doesn't affect the other and I suppose it could be the same for you Melody if that helps, then maybe you won't feel so jealous and I won't feel so guilty. Hope this makes sense.
I've got another blood test tomorrow on my burfday really hoping that this one shows that I've ovulated. Glad your blood tests worked out Cleo - what a relief!
Wow just read all todays messages & wayyy too many for me to comment on lol. But hope your all ok & best be seeing some bfp's on here by the weekend ps I think I've been counting my cycle wrong then say last month I thought I had a 28 day cycle. I got my af on 4th of jan which was cd 28. So I thought that meant I had a 28 day cycle that month or was it a 27 day cycle goes & flushes head down toilet for being so dim
Bearface and LotsaTuddles - if you're still scratching try a few handfuls of porridge tied up in the foot of your tights. Whack it in your bath. It's bliss. When my eczema is bad I use it two days in a row and wooooooow it's so much better.
I believe you thethreeblondies, thousands wouldn't
Do it Frog, I would. 10dpo involved me peeing on anything that doesn't move!
CONGRATS LadyFlumpalot! Lovely news
<joins MotherOfCleo waiting to come into symptom spotting cave>
<waves at chocoloulou33 >
My PMS is worse now Rockchick1984, it's the stress of it. Sorry about BFN.
Loving your optimism notsoold, let's hope it's infectious.
I have my fingers crossed that all works out well for you Andie
<waves at Geckomum2 >
OMG Quark and MotherofCleo, I use FF. Will maybe use another to be safe.
<waves to everyone I have missed. off to rest sore fingers from typing my longest ever post>
I am way behind on the thread in just a day! Sorry, rock - I think I'm right behind you on the disappointment train. Spotting and feeling ERTD right around the corner. Double for us. thethreeblondies -- the heat is on you to get a BFP on Friday now!
melody, don't be so hard on yourself. It really is natural to feel jealousy, even for people we love dearly and know that we are also happy for. I have a few friends who seem to get pregnant just by being in the same room as their husbands and I want to scream, "Save some for the rest of us!"
I am a little emotional about going to my good girlfriend's baby shower on Saturday, but I feel mostly very positive. She had a very hard time getting pregnant -- more than two years trying before getting help from a specialist -- so I really am thrilled for her.
Strangely, the day after the baby shower, I have a memorial service to go to. It's going to be very sad (accompanist for our choir took his life). Puts my "problems" in perspective. Another visit from AF is no big deal. Shag cape on for next round.
I caved didnt I
Bfn. It's 10dpo I think but cortana made me do it
Did I do it too early? Should I just stop moaning and look forward to next month back in the shag wagon?
Didn't mean to post then. Stupid thumbs.
Thanks all for the kindness. Looks like we're all in our own special kinda of crazy fog right now!
Frog It could be too early. Implantation sometimes doesn't occur until 14dpo and hormones can take a couple of days to come through so they say 16dpo is optimal testing time. ie: when ERTD doesn't show up! So don't lose hope for this month.
Happy Thursday all.
Hello, i have just had the worse morning ever, a car just crashed into me so i am now stuck at home with no car, the police have just left and i am waiting in for the insurance to call
I'm ok, still a bit shaky i wanted a day off and this really seems a bit extreme
Its my fault as i was turning right, but he was speeding excessively so i really only have my bad judgement to blame, but i am ok and that is the main thing. Also i am lucky that i have my no claims bonus intact, other wise this really would be a nightmare.
Now just waiting for my mum to go empty the car of my stuff, its freezy outside but the walk to my car will do me good.
MotherofCleo i have no idea sorry, but maybe someone with more knowledge may know
Oh cookie that's horrible, are you ok??
cleo I have read that very very short/light periods can cause problems for some women but I think that's only in extreme cases. My periods post-pill have been only 2-3 days max and pretty light (never needed more than a light flow tampon, and the last day generally I would only need a panty liner!). I (obviously) still managed to conceive within the "normal" time frame so if I were you I'd just count my blessings not to be a 7 day-er
frog sorry for the bfn but as andie said, it's early days yet so don't give up completely!
andie hope everything works out for you very soon and to everyone feeling down in the dumps at the moment
I keep thinking i am ok, but then i am still shaking when i sit still so maybe i did get more of a shock then i thought.
Cookie....omg....get a cuppa with a biscuit dear....poor you! Xx
Frog...test again in in few days and fx for a bold bfp for you!
Kitten..hello!
Cleo my periods are shorter and lighter after do many years on the coil....still got pregnant twice... My problems seems to be able to make a sticky baby ....xxx
Andy thinking of you today....
Red you are very right ....decision nition of problems in one's life is reviewed when confronted with those facts...xxx
Today is Thursday so I really need to give our dog a shower!!! Bye to you all and I am going to wash, dry, blow dry, and mess with my doggie' hair because....is much better than ironing frankly...;)
Thanks for the and the cake Notsoold. (Have fun with the dog in the shower!) Nothing like a good cuppa to put things into perspective. Bear and Red as well, you've all been very kind with supportive and understanding words. I still think a slap is in order for me, because even if my day never comes, it doesn't actually matter, I already have three DCs. I just need to keep reminding myself that. But you have helped me to get a grip.
I am happy for my friend and I did something practical earlier to try to put everything in perspective, I went and bought a little baby gift for her and it has actually helped. I'm beginning to feel pleased that my friend is now feeling those amazing emotions of holding her new baby for the first time (and if you've not been there yet, just you wait...it is absolutely the BEST feeling in the world). I might go to see her in the hospital later and I know I can be nice, nice smile, nice hug for her, say yes it would be nice to hold the baby, nice words of congratulations to her DH, I know I can do it… I might have a little cry on the way home though.
I’ve also just found out that ANOTHER friend had her baby today. I haven’t seen any pictures of this one yet so it doesn’t seem to real at the moment. I can cope, I can cope
Happy Birthday Bear… third BFP on order from Amazon...just for you I got a special offer, buy two get third free. You are totally right about other issues in people's lives conflicting with trying for something so happy. Sorry to hear about your friend's dad. Never easy to know what to do or say in these situations.
Red I do hope the baby shower goes well for you. We need to hold hands this week, I think! Sorry to hear about the memorial service for the accompanist too.
Cookie sorry, you've had such a shock this morning. Have you got someone who can come over to be with you? Just take things easy.
Sorry you got a BFN Frog. It might have just been too early. I’m a big believer in not testing too early. I know some people do get their BFP as early as 10DPO but I think it’s the exception rather than the rule. Hang in there until AF is a day or so late then test again.
MoCleo, I wouldn’t worry about your light AFs. How long have you been JS-ing? I’m the other end of the spectrum and literally have a tidal wave of ERTD. Like Kitten says I have also read that very light periods can sometimes mean a thin womb lining but I think that is in extreme cases. If you find that things take longer than ‘normal’ whatever normal is , then you could raise it with your GP at a later date.
Anyway…Have a good day. I’m still only 6 DPO, this is the longest two weeks of my life.
Hi everyone just about managed to catch up with this thread wow it moves fast !
Well it's ovulation day for me ( well according to my I phone app I actually have no idea if I am actually ovulating ) . < dons cape .... Again > .
So 2 week wait officially starts tomorrow for me .... Anyone else had 2 weeks to go I am determined to wait until due date of AF to test it's the 24th jan gosh already feels ages away
Well....thinking about all the ailments I've spotted....today I got a horrendously bad stomach. I usually have a stomach of steel but its just awful
Now I know this isn't a symptom cos is it not constipation that usually occurs instead??
Anyway I'm still reeeeeally bloated. To the point where it hurts really badly, but I guess I know why now
Sorry to hear ur ordeal cookie, glad ur ok!!
Hey ladies; sorry been a bit absent. Am sleeping all (literally) the time. And we got the dreaded OFSTED call this morning. I'm not even really lurking but I miss this Fred so thought I'd say hello.
There's a unicorn? And a cave?
How many bfp's have we had this Fred then?
Ps frog what did u pee on? I only got faint FRER bfp's at 11dpo. Nothing at all on an ic until 2 days after ertd was due. And then so faint they looked like evap lines. not that I've peed on all my ic's or anything just cos I like to watch the lines get darker
Peed on an IC ding.... You know I don't waste the good ones until I'm sure, lol. Still keeping them for best.
I'm soooooo bloated, literally burping all of the time. And strangely the 'poops' are just like painful balloons of nothing (and sometimes a clearish liquid) this really is tmi, I'm sorry!!! It's ding, she's back and brings out the shame in me!! Lol
But still I don't think the poops are considered a symptom. Anyone think I should wait now or maybe try testing tomorrow?
Sorry I keep calling you ding....
Gah just typed out a massive post and lost it
Will try again...
frog in not sure about if its a pg symptom or not but it sounds to me like you should see your gp, doesn't sound good. Hope you feel better soon
belle I am at the mental image of you bathing in a tub of what is basically runny porridge!! That has totally made my morning haha!
bear HAPPY BIRTHDAY <balloons emoticon> hope you have some fun stuff planned in addition to your blood tests
<waves> to everyone else, happy Friday
Hello all <Waves>
Wow - been away a day and so much has happened!
Thank you for the birthday messages Kitten, Gary, Melody and anyone else I've missed. I had a lovely day yesterday. Even the blood test wasn't so bad - the nurse and I had a great chat about Hugh Jackman and how much we like him! And for the first time in ages I didn't get a mahoosive bruise. DH was off work to spend the day with me and we had lots of fun going to the cinema with all the OAPs and having a thai curry in the evening.
Cookie - hope you get yourself sorted out soon and that you've recovered a bit more now.
Frog and threeblondies - hang in there. You might still get a BFP yet. <Crosses fingers and toes (yes, I can do toes)>
Ding / Belle - bummer about the big O. Hope you get through it alright.
Melody - glad you are feeling a bit better about your friend.
Frog - sounds like you're constipated but you might need to go and get it checked out. I'd recommend eating a tin of prunes . . .
Dolly - the wait is rubbish isn't it? Hope it goes more quickly for you than it has for me! Keeping busy seems to be the key for me.
Hope everyone else is getting along okay.
I'm out this month the witch has just arrived.
I just don't understand why 2 years ago I got pregnant without even trying, had unprotected sex once and got upduffed, it's now been 5 months trying and no joy I've ordered some OPK's and conceive plus this morning on amazon but if they don't work I may just give up.
Sorry for your ERTD Rock. Don't give up though. I'm sure it'll happen for you soon.
Hope you're okay Elektra - sorry for the crap news. Hang in there.
Hello! Disappeared again into workiness and now I'm so behind!
Gecko my insurance policy is a global one, with Aetna, not sure if their UK policies cover it though...
Cookie so sorry, hope you are ok and less shaky now!
Bear happy birthday!
Rock sorry about ERTD
Cleo min ERTDs are very light after coming off the pill, and I have now been pg twice in 6 months, so not a prob here anyway, I'm sure it's not!
Well scan was fine, everything normal so far, gestational sac in the right place, and back in the longest 2 weeks of my life to hopefully hear a heartbeat!
Symptomspotters - I still haven't really had any, and I have 6BFPs and a scan to prove I am pg, so don't despair if you don't have any!
It's Friiiiiiiiday
Cheers Bearface, I'm just sad now, with a bit of worry thrown into the mix!
I might lose my job in about 6 months, normally wouldn't be bothered but I actually like my job and where I work!
I am thinking that to add to the crapness ERTD will probably show up next week! You know to prove to me that I am being a crazy woman with the symptom spotting!
bear EPO = evening primrose oil. This is the first month I took it and we also started using conceive+, I'm sure it made a difference. EPO is supposed to improve quality of cm and generally create a more favourable environment. I took 2000mg a day (1000mg morning & same again evening) from CD1 - CD12 (2 days before expected ov). It's really important to stop taking it before ov as it can cause microcontractions in the uterus.
Hi all. So I got my phone app wrong and it was right how I had it the first time! So i am cd30, 11dpo and 3 days until next AF due. I started spotting yest. Always have really heavy afs. This isn't even enough to show up on a pad. It was bright red yest and a brown today. Tmi I'm sorry. Off work sick with a cold yesterday and today to. Bleurgh. Just don't know what to make of it all!
Thanks Kitten - I've been taking EPO this month along with vitamin B6 and of course the old frolic acid, but didn't know I was supposed to stop taking it! Eek! Too late now! Will stop now until next cycle. Thanks for the info. I've read that it can take a couple fo months to get into the system and really kick in, so I'm going to keep going with it next cycle too anything to get that bfp
Really glad everything was okay at the scan Hooya. Must be a relief of sorts. I know you've got the next one in 2 weeks but each step takes you one bit closer and all that.
Elektra - sorry about the job thing. That's really crap. If you want to take a positive from it though, at least 6 months gives you enough time to find another job if you need to. Or at least be on the lookout.
Quark - Hope it isn't ERTD and that you feel better soon. Have some
Anyone got snow yet?
Yep fair enough Elektra - one of my siblings is just about to be made redundant for the third time in as many years. It's really crap.
An bit getting dodgy tummy anymore....was literally only for those couple of hours I didn't even feel unwell
So I duno what goin on...
Belated birthday biscuits and wishes bear
Total sadness my car is a write off <tears>
How is everyone on this lovely Friday
Poor you Cookie - have some and . Will you get anything on the insurance for it? You must have been hit hard for it to be a write off. Thank goodness you're okay.
It was a bad hit, and old car ripped off all my bumper, and damaged the light, i was barely moving but the other driver was speeding.
Evening all, cd11 & the shagging has begun no opks or any worries this month, gonna enjoy it!
way to go choc im on cd9 an were starting this weekend too
So my usual cycle length is 25 but last month it was 27 so if i keep to the usual length period is due today or tomorrow, if the other monday!! Makes me want to POAS but i won't.
haha choc I have those moments all the time, im not feeling it today but we shall dtd none the less. Needs must an all that lol
Yay for shagging! The wedding is tomorrow, so TTC properly in earnest started yesterday because we couldn't wait starts tomorrow
Quick hello to you all jsers....
Been working for 16 hours I need my sleep!!!
Bye all ....
Really like this thread!!!
Bear I think they say 7months - 2 years is about right to conceive anyway so we should all stop stressing [haha, listen to me!] I try not to read Daily Mail articles anymore as the commenters raise my blood pressure.lol
Everyone seems a bit more upbeat now the weekend is here.
Cookie That's a shame about your car. DP has his van written off in the summer so I feel your pain. At least you weren't hurt though.
Been applying for jobs like a mad thing. Decided if I start thinking about something else then I might get a nice surprise. ERTD due in a week so I'm sticking around til then, if it arrives I'll be taking a break from MN to avoid thinking about TTC everyday too much.
Too right Andie - I didn't scroll down as far as the comments as I knew I'd get too Yes, 2 years - flip me that's a long time. Feel sorry now for those people who've been at it that long and longer. Good luck with the job hunting.
What am I still doing on here? I need my bed my head read Night night.
Fmu test at 12dpo. BFN.
Toby is it your wedding? If so, hope you have a brilliant brilliant day!
frog sorry if it's not this month, fx for next
Andie good luck with the job apps! I also like to duck in and out of MN to avoid the obsession!
Elektra sorry about job stuff, just think how wonderfully distracting it will be when you get pg!
I have a symptom! My nipples are so sore, even putting a bra on is painful!
Happy Saturday to everyone!
It is I will join back in with the shagging thread with a vengeance after!
COO EEE, MORNING ALL!
Happy wedding day Toby <dusts hat off>. What? We're not invited?
Sorry about BFN Frog . You may still be testing too early.
Bear the article is interesting surprisingly so, for the Daily Mail. It took 14 months to conceive my DC3. I didn't seek any treatment, despite being over the hill 35 at the time. We just thought maybe it wasn't meant to be and we'd forget about it. I got my head back to being content with the lovely 2 DCs I already had. Then, BAM, pregnant!
Off to tackle Tescos (grrrr!)
have a fab day toby
Melody, I'm with you this month. No more testing here, no more negatives in this house. Love your positive story though, really gives hope.
Happy belated birthday Bear. I still cannot thank you enough for helping me find this thread. I feel like I have somewhere to come hide.
Sorry about BFN Rockchick. DS took one go, literally one shag to conceive. I felt very down around month 5-7 of TTC. For my age I should have been able to conceive within 6 months and I felt like "I should have done this by now!". I know it's cliche but you have to keep telling yourself, everyone is different and most people manage it without any problems albeit sometimes a bit later than they had hoped. I am sending many hugs your way.
Lovely news on your BFP collection Hooya, and your scan. I hope the two weeks flies by in a very uneventful way for you. Remember, time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana.
Good advice on the EPO Kitten, will get DP to holland and barrett.
Sorry about your car Cookie, glad you're okay though.
Congrats on your wedding Toby, will your cape be white to match the dress
ERTD has finally fucked off to the far side of fuck! I am donning my cape for the whole of January, a lovely MNer sent me a book on fertility. A positive start to month 15, DP and I read a bit of the book together last night and felt more positive about going for the tests etc. We're still at the beginning of our TTC journey and there is so much more to come.
Advice please! Have just told DP that I tested this am (he was asleep when I did it!) and showed him the bfn. I did it in the dark as not to wake him and with the light from my phone it was bfn. Now I've showed him, there is a faint (almost invisible to the naked obsessive eye line. Question is....how often do people get evap lines on cheapies?? Don't wana build my hopes up. It's not even dark enough to see if the line is the same colour as the control. But def there.
'twas an evap line . My hopes were up, now they're not will maybe test tomorrow. Happy wedding day Toby!!
<sidles back in to be a bad idea bear>
Frog my lovely, I didn't get a clear bfn on an ic until 10 days after my bfp on a FRER. Break out the special occasion first response go on you know you want to and I want you on the grads Fred
13dpo is still pretty early and I was days and days late before I got lines on ic's, and even then so so faint. Fx for you xx
Ditto Red. Chin up. I may bump into you as I am also getting some EPO today . If I think I've spotted you I'll wear my coat like a cape <secret nod>
ERTD has just left Melody, glad to see the back of it. I would rather see BFN that ERTD, I can gear myself up for the BFN. But, I am sick off pissing away money, even IC add up. I promised this month I would not shart, symptom spot or worry about it, and fertility friend goes and gives me 5 days free trial.
Belle (treating you to your correct name!) - I'd live to be on the Grads fred too
It's 12dpo not 13 but I thought IC were meant to e more sensitive than FRER?? Had most symptoms going although some are disappearing now. And yes u are a bad idea bear!! I will test tomorrow with fmu. And not a minute before.
I already bought motivation boots so I can't even play that game!!
Thanks Hooya funnily enough I said to my friend I bloody better be pregnant now!
Thanks also Bearface and I am sorry to hear about your sibling! I hope they find a job soon
I'm just going to try and put it out of my mind, will focus on stuff in the here and now, mostly ttc, trying to lose weight and looking forward to my holiday in March! There's nothing I can do about my job situation, so will prepare for the worst and hope for the best.
Part of me kind of wants AF to show up this month - just so that I know all is in working order, that I am back on my normal cycle etc. Will have to see next week.
Oh and thanks Red for your message, I'm doing better today
What's that I hear ..... Free trial on fertility friend exits mums net to check App Store
Congrats on your wedding day Toby hope its fab
I am head first into the two week wait symptom spotting cave trying not to but just can't help myself !! 2dpo according to my period tracker ( which I have no idea if correct as only third month using it ) but still js'ing just in case !! Well only symptom so far is lower back ache and twinges in the uterus area( if I may call it that) . Back ache prob caused by fact that I am an NHS worker and twinges probably because I spend more than half my day thinking about my uterus and what could be going on down there!
This is my first month ttc so odds are nothing Is going on down there and it's gearing up for Ertd but who knows can't wait to test ahhhhhh really want to wait til AF due tho song want to get my hopes up ! Anyone else struggling along with the 2 ww ??? X
Just reporting in that the shower was actually really nice! (Thanks all for the kind support - I may need it at the next one in February, ha.) Today, I sat next to a childless friend and we chugged sipped some and snickered to each other every time someone said "nipples." I helped the mom to be and her husband cart all their presents home since I live right around the corner from them, and we had a nice heart to heart chat about how much pressure we put on ourselves with this whole TTC business.
ERTD usually is my BFN - I hate 'em both...
hey ladies the witch got me yesterday too nasty bitch! I was kind of glad of having had the three bfn as it prepared me, I was quite hopeful this month, next month I vow to not poas and/or symptom spot! my cycles seem to be varying quite a bit so shags a plenty for dh this month (although as he works nights he will get fed up of me crawling in to bed with him after school run!)
Sorry about ERTD Cracker and ThreeBlondies. Fx for next month instead.
Am really getting bored of my 2ww now, but I don't think I will get a BFP this time. I just don't feel it at all and I have zero symptoms now. BUT I'm just hanging in there for ovulation. Although if they say I haven't ovulated, then I don't know if they'll keep on testing me or move onto the next step. I have no idea and I feel a bit annoyed that my crap GP hasn't told me what the process might be. From what I can find out by reading other threads, the amount of time they test you for seems to vary from person to person or doctor to cdoctor. Maybe it depends on the results? I don't know.
Red - glad you had a better time than expected at the baby shower.
Hope you had a lovely day Toby?!
After the drama (I'm getting good at this!) of the questionable bfp yesterday, I had a little 'what if' discussion with DP and struggled to get him to understand the desperation to Poas. DP said 'I just don't get it, why don't you just wait for af to show, it's like a free test!!.... And if it doesn't , Poas!' ....boooo DP and your logic. Lol
Anyway it's due tomorrow and I am 99% sure she's on the way. I've got cramps different to those felt earlier in the week and they are just typical of af. I wouldn't be getting this feeling I don't think if I was upduffed. Prepare for the shag wagon!!
Hi all!! I'm one of the newbies who snuck in recently! Not been on a while and jeeeeez have I missed loads! Congrats to all the BFPs and boooo to all the BFNs and visits from the witch
Missed so much, I must visit more to keep up with everyone's news!
Not much to report from me....ertd arrived but (and likely to be the only time I am) I was actually pleased as it was first since stopping the pill. Only stopped 8th dec so pretty happy it arrived after less than 5 weeks, heard some horror stories of it taking months! Tho I know it doesn't necessarily mean it will happen regularly so just need to wait and see! Also good that I got what I think were ov symptoms exactly 2 weeks before it arrived-that's a good sign right?
Sorry about the ERTD Cracker and Threeblondes
Frog look up 'Baby Snark'. I don't want to get your hopes up unnecessarily but in all if my PGs I've had 'this is AF cramping, it's definitely on it's way' and each time I've actually been pregnant. I remember doing some Internet research with DC1and came across the Baby Snark website which has lots of testimonials about AF cramping in early pregnancy.
My theory is that the initial cramps we feel on each non-PG month are not cramps which are expelling the blood (as i previpusly thought) but the actual build up of the uterine lining. So on a PG month we get the same initial cramps, maybe with some extra tugging and burying feelings ( but they are sooooo subjective).
These days, I notice that my cramps change when AF is imminent or has actually started.
Having said all that, I'm on 9DPO, very crampy and trying to convince myself it's not AF!!!
Can I join please?!
DS 19months
Cheshire
Cycle 6 (though only three seen any action ;))
Just got bfn and decided I need to chill out and get with the just shagging programme
meant to be dtd later BUT my OH has been pissing me off all day!!!!! grrrrr at this rate I wont want him anywhere near me!
I had lots of those days cleo, but I wrote them off instead of attempting to salvage a Dtd, because if you're anything like me you spend ages trying to fix the atmosphere and enjoy it but its just not worth the stress. You'll have forgotten about it by tomorrow
Right. Is there still that spot for me in the symptom spotting cave? I reserved that ledge next to the fire. I couldn't legitimately join last week as I'd only just ov'ed but now I am 9DPO and am symptom spotting like crazy remaining cool, calm and collected.
Who else is coming to the SScave with me? I've got plenty of and .
Ok i caved and POAS, BFN
I can't actually get to the shops to buy any more (cause of the whole lack of car) so will have to wait till AF arrives or a car lets see which one comes first
Ok cookie, sorry for the bfn, hopefully you're just testing too early.
After mine on 12dpo I decided I wasn't testing anymore, I'm just waiting for af as not to waste anymore. Obviously if she doesn't appear I will, but I'm convinced she's on the way
I hope so to <fingers crossed>
Usually i test and then AF appears
Hey everyone, so many people to keep up with on here lol. Good luck to those poas 2moro. Am only on cd10 so enjoying the shagging & the fact I'm not gonna use opks this month. All going well so far
I think I'm out. I have no PG symptoms at all. I'm only 10DPO but I only have a 12 day luteal phase.
Having said all that, in my last PGs I think my first concrete symptom was missed AF (oh,I did feel implantation in one of them - never had that with the others though). I think I'm just looking for symptom more this time because if you lot
Melody I had no clue I was pregnant with DS, so don't accept that it's not your month just yet!!
Cleo I hate it if me and DH have a tiff when I know it's a good time to DTD - I tend to just see it as make up sex
Frog any sign of AF/BFP yet? Keeping fingers crossed for you!
I've had the shortest ever AF, usually about 4 days long but has just been 1 normal day, 1 light then nothing. Am now stressing that it's too short and is contributing to lack of BFP, I blame you lot for suggesting that as a possibility
No sign of af but am not testing. Promise! Today is 14dpo and I should've started last night. Cross your fingers girls!!
Frog you hold off. Don't listen to Rock .
I love a challenge and I'm trying to set myself up to wait longer than ten days after AF due date! (either this cycle or another one). Ten days was the longest I've ever waited. But that was 8 years ago and I was at work full time so it was easier not to be tempted.. Now I'm in the house a lot during the day with a HPT in the drawer! Although that test has been there since my last pg so it's probably out of date! I used an out of date one once before and it did work but I didn't trust it so had to go and buy another straight away!
Sorry for the rumblings surely you can't tell I'm bored and obsessing
AF is due today by my dodgy calculations so far she is a no show, i'm turning into a symptom spotter, I have gone off food, my boobs are sore. But i'm sure it would all be to early for that. Someone give me a virtual slap!!
Cookie <slap> <followed by hug and choc chip cookie> I feel your pain
Rock I worked through the anger and we dtd anyway lol. I needed him for his swimmers
Well i accept my virtual slap, well needed but have consoled my self with a wispa gold and a twirl my diet is going well. Oh no i feel all crampy, but still only on my left side and that is always crampy these days.
God news, i got the hire car, bad news they want it back by thursday so i managed to wangle tomorrow off, even though nursery will probably be shut due to the shit load of snow pouring down on us. So i can hopefully get a new car tomorrow <fingers crossed>
Hi Everyone,
Cookie - hope you manage to get your nice new shiny car sorted out.
I'm at the most 11dpo - might even be 10 - if indeed ov happened at all, blood test still not back yet to confirm and I caved In my defence I've got a job interview next week and I don't know how long the contract is for as it's a maternity cover. If I was pregnant, it might change things quite drastically, so thought I'd better POAS. Got a BFN. Could of course be too early, but like I said before, I just don't feel it at all.
One of my very best friends is just about ready to give birth to her second and I'm very happy for her, but I can't help having that 'I wish it was me too' feeling. Need a hooya and a hand squeeze please.
So, as was clearly obviously going to happen, I caved. It's 14dpo and I used ic. I couldn't see anything at first but on the 10 minute mark I could and still can see a faaaaaint line. Unsure if this is evap AGAIN.... But prob is as it would've showed up right away, right? Anyway, I'm getting fed up of these ic evap lines.
I'm sorry frogchops
I'm stuck with my mother all day tomorrow which really is a good thing, new car shopping but it means i can't test, so hopefully if AF doesn't arrive i may test again on weds.
Frog that could be exciting stuff tho - hope you're going to do a test with FMU tomorrow???
Good luck with the car shopping Cookie, what are you thinking of getting? What type did u have written off??
Just found out that my friend with a baby the same age as DS, and a baby 12 months younger, is expecting her third so will have 3 under 3 I think she's mad but am very jealous that we are struggling for baby 2 and she's on her third!!
No one will believe that I actually forgot to test with fmu! still no af though
Aw frog how could you forget??? Fwiw, my first IC BFPs took aaaaaages to come up and were super faint.
I vote you tape an IC to your forehead before you go to bed tonight, so you can't possibly forget to test with fmu tomorrow . Definitely wanting some more people on the grads fred
It's my 12 week scan this morning - I shall drop in after and let you know how it went. keep fx for me please
Choco it's Internet cheapies - cheap pregnancy tests usually from amazon where you can get about 50 tests for under £10!
Good luck waves I'm sure you will be fine
When was AF due Frog? Are you normally very regular? I keep thinking I'm late but my cycle over the last few months has been a bit haywire, anything from 21-33 days so I can't rely on that at present!
I'm 2 days late now on cd31 and have never gone this long before. I'm getting twinges, cramps, and back pain.
Am still not completely convinced.
How long did your IC positives take waves??
Hi frogs I got my BFP the day AF was due, but I assumed I was testing early due to irregular cycles pre-coil. Anyway, just back from my scan and the dates were bang on, so I actually got the first BFP (which was more like a very faint, pathetic attempt at a BFP)the day AF was due. As DH and I were exclusively just shagging I have no idea when I ov'd or anything!
Anyway, back from scan, all is perfect, due end of July. Baby has all it is meant to, and was very active. Can't believe it is actually real, and going to try to allow myself to enjoy this a bit now
Hi Waves - how exciting seeing your baby for the first time! You must be over the moon. Glad to hear all is well and you're progressing nicely.
Frog - I still think you're in with a chance like others said. Think I ahd a bit of an evap line last time I did my POAS. Got very excited and it disappeared within about 5 seconds. It's amazing what BFP goggles can do!
I'm having real work dilemmas - basically was offered a job today even though I only went in to do temp work and it's quite a good deal - would be part-time which I'd like, but isn't permanent, but I've also got the original interview next week for a higher paid job in a better place but would be full time, further away and fixed term as well. Also, with the second one I'd get more holidays and I'd be hankering after a permanent position after the maternity cover was over. What to do????? I don't know what I want! Why can't the one I want be closer to home?
Elektra - hope you get your work stuff sorted out. I basically decided that I couldn't keep hanging on for one or the other (i.e. job or baby) as I could be there a while, so I decided to go for both. I am an employer's worst nightmare I guess!
Haha, I am wearing those very boots right now..... And had plenty of bfns, lol. Have since bribed myself with a coffee machine, a new coat, a new purse and some posh chocolate. Needless to say, I have them all in my crazy obsessed willpowerless possession!!
Arf Frog
<looks at tatty £2 charity shop black trainers>
I think Frog has the right idea, I need to treat myself more. DP and I stocked up on vitamins today, multi and iron for both of us, Folic Acid and EPO for me and Zinc for him, party time in the Cortana house!
I started Aikido yesterday, it is going to be my weekly I'm not pregnant so will spend a few hours throwing grown men around and doing flips on mats time. I learnt how to shift my weight so two grown men couldn't lift me (I am 8 1/2 stone) and how to make a grown man go "EEEEEP" when I twisted his wrist.
The boot were more expensive than the Coffee machine though I don't treat myself tooooo much, but a little bit of what u fancy goes a long way.
Are you testing tomorrow cookie?? I think I am too if af doesn't show up in the next 12 hours. I cannot believe I forgot this am. I stood looking at my wee in the toilet thinking dammit! Lol I would test tonite but I don't know how important fmu is and I need a wee to often to hold it during the day!!
Cortana That's ace. My cousin is a dan in Aikido and coached children on his 'camp America' placement. He says it's a great discipline.
DP and I are starting a fitness program at home to get "new baby fit" as we've been couch potatoes recently and when I was pg with DD I put on 3st and struggled to shift it, I don't want that this time (thinking positive for this being my month!lol)
Cookie Hope you get your new car sorted soon.
Bear I envy your predicament, the job hunt is no fun. I sympathise that you've got a tough decision on your hands though.
Frog If I were in your shoes I'd hold out another couple of days who am I kidding? Test now!
Waves Nothing beats seeing that little grey picture for the first time. Glad everything is as it should be.
We got the 207 yay!!
I got a quote for insurance over £1000 for the year, i actually lol i paid £400 last year. I know it will go up this year when i renew but not that high i hope
So i now have informed DH how late i am and he said not to test in case it comes, and then when i do test to test twice i do not understand his logic.
Yay, frogchops i am soooo happy for you
all round. But not for you Frog
Well i def do have to wait cause i didn't go to badminton so i have no test, but hopefully if Af doesn't come tomorrow i will run out at lunch tomorrow and test eeek. OOOh i really am so happy for every one with their BFPs
Congrats Frog!
Enjoy those boots now, your feet will be wide & uncomfortable soon enough
Cortana, well done on the Aikido training! Hoping to get into a martial art (I say Krav Maga, DH says Karate) with DS when he turns 3!
<goes back to lurking>
whoop whoop, nice one frog yay!!!
lovely news waves you get to have a lovely summer maternity too.
frog I just read back and two days ago you were so sure AF was on the way, that can give us all hope huh
Karate is great for younger children Gary, I started when I was four, ended up teaching . Fancied something new and a friend has started an Aikido club so thought I'd give it a go.
Yay for you frog so so pleased! I'll have a cuppa to celebrate
Hurrah for new year bfps
Thanks girls! Haven't seen DP yet, hes out. Funny about feeling like af was on the way. I still feel like that though. I also had no symptoms whatsoever in the early dpo's. it's only really that last few days that I've thought
Also I've had no sickness or nausea. So yes I'd say even if ur getting bfns at 14dpo like I did yesterday ....it really aint over til af does or doesn't appear!!
Have just told DP it was most likely the time I was ill and trying not to sneeze! He didn't even wana come near me at the time.
FROGCHOPS!! I turn my back for three days and go go and get duffed!! Squeeee!!!
How many bfp's have we had on Fred 13 now? Mass graduation, much?
haha, nice mental image frog lol
Hum, so I just did another OPK and it's positive again, is it usual to have a positive OPK two days running?
Woo hoo Frog!!! HUGE congratulations! Just like Belle I turn away for a second and you have a BFP! Have you told DP yet? What has he said?
Thanks for the advice about the job ladies. I really don't know what to do. I guess I need to go for the interview on Monday and see what happens and how I feel about it after that. We'll see.
Hope everyone else is okay!
Thanks bear, mr frog is pleased, I'm not sure it's sunk in yet, but it hasn't with me either. He keeps laughing nervously bless him. And I've said before, my dates make it the time I was ill and he didnt really wana Dtd! You'll all I'm sure take comfort from knowing I only Dtd 4 times this month and only 2 were at good times. So the old cape wasn't even worn out!!
Glad Mr Frog is happy. Now you can wear your cape just for fun!
I actually yay'ed out loud at the completely imaginary crown fitting lol.
I didn't turn into a pouncing machine, I just initiated a few dtds. Come to think of it, it's been a while and for at least a week I just haven't been in the mood. (Shakes cape to see if it still works)
Yes, the crowds applauded here in my lounge too! Haw haw!
Fingers crossed I can graduate with you, but I don't think it's going to happen this month. I'm pretty sure we did it at the right times, but I don't know if I ov'd. I got two lines on contrband OPK my lottery ticket, so hopefully I'll be a winner! (see what I did there? ) STILL awaiting blood results. Had test a week ago now. Results are probably back but are probably waiting with crap doctor.
Thanks Cortana. I didn't have that from EPO. Maybe you picked up a bug?
Oh no. ERTD looks imminent.
Oh no Bearface are you getting cramps and stuff?
Hi Cookie, I've just been catching up on the posts from the last 24hours. I don't think stress can delay AF, I think stress can only delay ov. As far as I'm aware, a woman's luteal phase is fixed. Do you know when you ov'ed? I'm not suggesting you used contraband OPKs but you might have had EWCM. If you know when you ov'd then ERTD should appear 14 days later. That might help you to pinpoint when the witch would likely make an appearance or if you are actually late - squeal!
Sorry if you knew all that. I just love the science behind it all so read lots but I know some people aren't so bothered by all that.
I hope this turns out to be good news for you.
Well i really am trying to keep to the true nature of this thread and we are just shagging. We may go down the opk route in the future, so i really do have no idea when i ovulated
I guess either my period is gonna come, although i am having no cramps or eventually i will get a bfp
Well i still am very new to this give me time i will be following in your fabulous foot steps
Well that is true, i love this thread though so may just change my name and stay
I didn't think of that, but that is a good plan <rubs hands together with glee>
Thanks Melody and Cookie for the support. Yes, Cookie, I'm starting to feel a bit crampy, but it's much lower down than it normally is. It's probably just getting ready to unleash its force! No bleeding yet though. The mucus has stopped as well.
Melody - I think ERTD will probably start tomorrow so luteal phase will then be normal (for me). My cycle looks like it's a textbook ov on day 14 and 28 day cycle (occasionally 29). And they turn up regularly, so at least that's something.
Told DH about ERTD and he said, 'Well, at least if it is you can have a drink at the weekend.' I like his style. Every cloud and all that.
MORNING ALL <fake cheeriness>
ERTD got me in the night. Oh well, it's not the end of the world, it was only my first cycle of JS after all.
Bear it wasn't you going for tests then? I think I got you muddled with someone else! Oops! Sorry. You are like clockwork aren't you? I seemed to be pretty similar since stopping breast feeding DC3 last September. I had one cycle of 31 days and now I've had three of exactly 27 days. Pretty sure I ov'd on day 15 in those last three months (I can't be 100% sure as I don't bother with the contraband stuff, just an avid CM observer) which then makes my luteal phase 12 days (same as it was pre-last pg).
I think regular and relatively short cycles are a real blessing.
Onwards and upwards. I'm already planning when the cape will get dusted off, ready for use again. My only concern is that DH will say that four children isn't a good idea now. After a few wet weekends cooped up with the three we already have, he was beginning to say he didn't think we could cope with a fourth. I just nodded. (It was potentially too late as we'd already done lots of JS-ing!)
I'm sure, once the cape works it's magic, he could be persuaded otherwise
Melody.
Ok ERTD over. Going to assume that I ovulate early and late and just shag my way till my next AF.
Hope DH has taken his vitamins!
Hello! Unlurking to say yaaaaaay frog <does BFP happydance>
Welcome to grads (though I am still too scared to post there properly despite being 5 weeks pg)!
Sorry to AQuark and Melody, best of luck for next month!
I have reached the terrified of anything to do with being pg stage. It's, erm, terrifying
Good luck to all those still waiting - this thread's got BFPs in it yet...
Hello all
Well, ERTD got me this morning. Sorry for you too Melody and Quark. Hope you're both okay.
Yes, I did go for tests Melody. I had a 21 day progesterone test to see if I ov'd and YAY! I DID! [happy] So despite appearance of ERTD, I am still really happy that I appear to be okay and the first lot of blood tests I had seemed to be an anomaly with the 11 day period and everything. So I guess it was just an anovulatory cycle. I can't tell you all how happy I am. Got another blood test tomorrow now though for testosterone and estrodial. Fingers crossed for that one to come back okay too.
I'm jumping on that onwards and upwards rocket, Melody.
Hello everyone
I tested this morning and it is still BFN.
And still no AF.
I think i shall wait till Sunday which will put me way on my cd's. if i can wait that long
bear i am glad that your tests came back with the right results, and i hope the next lot are just as good
aquark thats the theory i'm going with!!
Thanks Cookie - I'm so relieved. Really hoping all continues to go well for me and TTC now. Soprry you haven't got your BFP yet, but hang in there. It sounds promising!
So where do u ladies graduate too once u get your bfps? Is there a 'due in...' Section as couldn't see it. Not that I need to go there yet but nice to be prepared! X
Oh yay frog that is great news, it must feel amazing
Andie its really hard cause she is thinking of me, and then i start to agree with her saying that we'll stop after this month when really i am thinking that i'll have to stop updating her and just keep it to myself instead.
Still no period and have been strong this morning and not tested, am actually amazed at my will. I really hope i am up duffed though, even though we are so broke at the moment
Oh and i got my new car today, yay!! Mananged to get out of work early and picked it up an hour ago (happy days)
I guess her heart was in the right place Cookie We're all guilty of being accidentally insensitive sometimes I suppose.
Frog Nice to have a professional confirmation.
Has everyone been playing in the snow all day? It's quiet round here.
COOO EEEE only me!
Frog is it feeling more real now?
Cookie I'm sure your work friend is lovely but just ignore her on this one. Maybe telling her you're stopping JS, like you suggest, will help.
I'm sure you'll get your BFP soon. Loving your will power.
New car
Bear that all sounds very ouchy.
I've not been playing in the snow Andie just busy. In fact we haven't had anywhere near as much as was forecast so my baby in pushchair nightmare didn't come true. I think more is on the way tonight but I'm not worried as its the weekend YAY!
Night night.
M xxx
If you mean wretching my guts up, having horrendous backache and spending 20 hours a day asleep, then yes it's totally real! I do get the odd 'what about this/that' thought that scares the hell outa me as its my first, so I'm not sure the impending responsibilty has quite sunk in yet!
Oh no frog not sickness, not good not good, hope it passes soon and you can get onto the other perks of pregnancy
God i really am terrible at this waiting i caved this morning and POAS, still negative. They are tesco ones, i was on another thread and some said tescos are rubbish, but now maybe i am just clutching at straws.
cookie, how many dpo are you? It's not over yet!
Pregnancy perk number one yesterday: when the traffic builds up due to snow and you live quite far from work, the boss lets you go home to avoid needing a wee on the journey home!! Still took me two hours to get home (its only 10 miles!) but I appreciated it!
You're so right Frog and your comment about spots has made me hopeful; I've had a disgusting break out on my back this week which I never get.
Holding out hope for you Cookie fx
DSSs are here, there are toys everywhere, the noise levels have increased three fold, and after reassessment I've decided I do still want another one.
I went to the shops with dh, and told him I wanted a different kind of pregnancy test but he knows I still have a tesco one so wouldn't get me one he very rightly pointed out if I am pregnant I will still be pregnant in feb after pay day, and it doesn't make a difference if I know now or later.
Thanks Bear and thethree i've never been this late before it is such a horrible waiting game
I may go insane, although i did order the IC so hopefully they will arrive sooner rather than later and i can test with some of those instead. Dh doesn't know i bought those.
Thanks Bear and yes please threeblondies cross them for me.
I'm resolved not to get excited, or test, until it's been a week.
Naughty Cookie with your secret tests.lol.
Andie I have everything crossed for you, even my hair is tying itself in knots
Yes, I am a bad cookie
hum quick query, so we dtd cd4,7,9,11,12,13,14,15 i got a positive opk on cd13 i was hoping to continue daily till sunday but weve missed friday an saturday do you think my chances are still ok?
Also I got OV cramps last month, but not this month, instead I got uber painfull tender nips on cd14, i think that means extra progesterone which can be a sign of OV too??
Really hope weve done enough.......wish id fought off my rediculous tiredness on Friday and jumped the OH! I didnt think i could on Friday but now im disapointed in myself! will make sure we dtd today though!
Cleo All the blurb propoganda says as long as you're JSing every other day up to ov then you're in with as much of a chance of anyone (apparently 20% max!) the egg only lives for 24 hours at most so any DTD after that is just for practice. In fact every day JSing can reduce the quality of sperm.
Lmao. Gotta love testosterone. ;)
I've been attacked on the step parenting forum for saying DPs ex was out of order telling DSSs they couldn't bring their wellies...therefore we can't play in the snow (as she also sends them in shoes that are too big!!) I didn't realise the step parent forum was a chance for aggrieved mothers to attack other unsuspecting women in place of their own child's SM.
thanks everyone! we dtd this moning so back on track. Im well and truly in the 2ww so fingers crossed we can just dtd for fun now not l on a schedule. Also I do know too much sex can sometimes not be the best thing for getting the best sperm, but Id rather always have sperm their than rely on them living for 48 plus hours.....im not convinced they live that long.
andie tell them to do one! I hate how horrible people can be when they dont have to look you in the eye.
Hi Everyone,
How very exciting for the sore boobs people! That never happens to me, so if I ever did get a BFP it would be a dead giveaway. My boobs just seem to stay the same all the time. I bought some new bras on Friday though to give me extra vumph in the shagging department when ERTD effs off goes away. Nothing special - just black, but I do look good in black!
I also did some major exercise yesterday - ran 5k and walked for 30 mins, then did some squats and stuff. I REALLY hurt today! Told DH that I never do them because they always make me hurt for about two days after. DH kindly pointed out that if I did them more often then I wouldn't hurt! Trying to lose a bit more weight in order to release some more estrogen, I think it is.
It's been snowing since really early this morning here and hasn't stopped at all. (I ran to the window like a kid well before the alarm went off!) My poor preggers friend had her due date yesterday and she's pretty much snowed in and lives on a big hill. Really hoping she is okay and manages to get to the hospital.
Andie - I'm with you on the weirdness of lots of the rest of MN chat. There are some lovely people and some of the chat is very funny, but I often end up worrying about what I post (not here though) as some bellends people jump on the most ridiculous points and/or end up twisting what you write, or making you feel like your opinion is wrong. I don't get it. IMO people need to chill out more and stop picking fights just for the hell of it. Stay here Andie - it's lovely here. I've only ever heard of one 'scuffle' on the Conception threads, so I think we're all lovely.
Ugh, Andie, it's hard. It's really difficult not to project if you're in the situation where you're the mum and the ex/his partner are constantly slagging you off. Not suggesting for a second that you do that, of course! But the way my XH and his poisonous cow of a gf behave towards me makes me avoid the step parents' board for fear of tarring everyone with the same brush.
Not an excuse for them to be horrid to you, obviously. Not at all
Good work on the exercise front, bearface!
Morning shaggers! Cookie any news? I truly admire your willpower! Any sign of the IC's yet
I think I ovulated yesterday but haven't had a positive on an OPK, when would the positive have happened if it was going to? I tested Friday around 2pm, same Saturday, had light cramping on one side Sunday morning, then tested around 1pm Sunday. Does that mean I missed it, or has it just not happened yet?
I tend to venture further into the big wide world of Mumsnet but avoid controversy and stick to areas I know a bit about to offer advice (used to work in finance so can often be found loitering the money matters board) - the only places I've ever seen proper fighting is AIBU but there does seem to be some bitches on all the sections
Gah! The witch is here. Evil bitch caught me when I least expected her! Had NO symptoms she was coming so I'm
DS is off nursery because of the snow (all schools in our borough closed) so I'll distract myself with snowman construction.
Rock No clue about OPKs
Cookie Fx for you still.
Boo to the witch Andie
I'm another one who steers well clear of certain areas of MN -especially the step parenting bit. I'm a step mum, and sometimes feel like I could really do with a winge/vent and would never do so as I have seen the vitriol hurled at SMs, just because they dare to be in a relationship with a man who had children with another woman! Or that is how it seems anyway. Never mind the fact that I also have children, who are also step children, and that I was the "woman whose DH left" too.
Have fun with the snowman - we had a whole day of snow here (rare enough) but I was stuck away from home on a work trip so missed all the snowman building fun with my DCs
Rock what makes you think you are OVing? Do you use your OPKS the same time each day? You should get a positive 12 - 48 hours before you OV I think. Although they only pick up the hormone surge so OV could still be delayed.....if that makes sense. They say you can miss the surge but mine lasted 2 days so it would have been hard to miss. Have your lines got any darker? Try today and make sure you hold your wee for at least 3 hours before hand, I usually try to do my OPK between 11 and 3 as someone once told me that late morning/early arvo was the best time. If you are getting some cramps which is why you think you are OVing, just be aware that some people cramp before the OV, others when the Ov and others after they OV so it's a bit of a minefield. Hope all that rambling was of some help??? Never my most eloquent on a Monday lol