Deck your halls & dress your trees, the BESH are gifting BFPs

(978 Posts)
WinklyVersusTheZombies Sun 16-Dec-12 16:21:09

Doff your top hats, lean on your canes, 'tis a Victorian Christmas for the BESH. Baste those turkeys in Victoria & Albert style, and maintain a stiff upper lip when you fill in the BESHtionnaire to see if you are cynical stoic enough to win a Baybee.

RockinaroundtheTippletree Sun 16-Dec-12 16:29:19

Just doffed my hat at a wench.....think I'm in there smile head hurts......

Northey Sun 16-Dec-12 16:42:53

<strokes pant moustache thoughtfully>

evilgiraffe Sun 16-Dec-12 16:43:05

Good evening, ladies. <bows> <stands uncomfortably in the corner, looking out of the window>

My Victorian gentleman is rather reminiscent of Mr Darcy, I think...

I am watching Poirot on ITV3, it's wonderful.

SinkyMalinks Sun 16-Dec-12 16:54:42

<strides through new fred door>

Felicitations my dear BESH!

<twirls end of carefully waxed pant moustache>

Roasted chestnuts anyone? these Victorian trousers are a touch tight

Frankelstein Sun 16-Dec-12 17:20:49

<stands upright next to the roaring fireplace>

Good morrow BESH! <doffs hat>

lovesLemonDrizzleCake Sun 16-Dec-12 17:22:19

Well, well <stroking goatie (sp?) and putting watch back in waste coat pocket> nice drawing room we've got here. I shall have a little drink before dinner, please.

Nice fred, quick angry about the bill splitting last night but happy 30th all the same. Oh and hmm about the other stories. I am in shock. Luckily most of my friends a little more reasonable!

Today I had my IUI (and it didn't hurt, like the BFP time, and unlike all the other ones, the key is a full bladder, but not so full you pee all over the poor doctor). It was the same doctor as our BFP IUI as well, but this one proceeded with less eggs and more sperm than that one. No more stabbing but hoping, but not too much... And I baked. I can provide you gentlemen with ginger biscuits (maybe for the newly diffed?) and homemade mincemeat <proud>, and gin of course. But that ain't baked wink

WinklyVersusTheZombies Sun 16-Dec-12 17:25:12

Is my first ever BESH fred ok? <needy>

lovesLemonDrizzleCake Sun 16-Dec-12 17:37:52

Absolutely wink. Everyone is responding in stylee. But <stern look> being needy isn't very Victorian, is it? wink

JethroTull Sun 16-Dec-12 17:40:55

Splendid Fred Winkly I think we all look like this

Lemons everything crossed for you. Hope you manage to stay sane over Christmas.

We went to SSG's work mates housewarming do this afternoon. I have house envy - it was amazing. Every other couple except one had babies with them too. Anyway - just off to stab myself in the vain hope it might finally win me one grin

OComeAllYeFaithBaby Sun 16-Dec-12 17:49:07

<sticks hands in fur muff>

Excellent Fred startage winkster!

I haff just been to church lessons and carols where I did a reading and sang this song acapella! It was very scary but I luffed it! grin

SinkyMalinks Sun 16-Dec-12 17:49:46

Splendid fred opening Winks

<passes port>

<passes gin chaser, because, after all, we are BESH>

My peacock feather has been dusted off and is a rather magnificent addition to my silk waistcoat.

(I should really be writing a job application. Sigh)

And the faithful badgerfur will be lining my frock coat. Toasty.

Good luck Lems. When are you allowed to test?

bluer Sun 16-Dec-12 17:50:21

Good Morrow gentlemen! <strides around manfully sucking on pipe>
Everything crossed drizzand thanks for the ginger...actually bought some ginger nuts this afternoon to go with the caffeine free tea biscuit
Braved the shops today and we are officially done and wrapped. Just got to get to the end of the well with mental hyper teens...on the good side is I'm taking one of my classes to see the Hobbit on so tired may fall asleep in a warm dark place!
Good Fred winks I love all things Victorian...Dickens was my dissertation topic at uni. <waves out window and offers a shinny sixpence to an urchin >

SinkyMalinks Sun 16-Dec-12 18:00:00

Good lord. I'm rewriting an old job application/cv for the current application. Bloody hell. The last one I put in was a bit rushed, but some of the sentences make no sense blush. I haven't heard yet, but I suspect I won't be short listed for that one...

Must concentrate...

Northey Sun 16-Dec-12 18:18:09

I say, sinky, why don't I talk to the pater? I daresay he'll get you in.

Sucking on the pipe is no example to set, sacrebleu. That's not going to get any of us diffed.

bluer Sun 16-Dec-12 18:23:30

True enough norf and I suppose having opium in it is a bad idea also.
Bought a bottle of alcohol free wine today...I will report as to the drinkability on xmas day

Northey Sun 16-Dec-12 18:27:08

It was a sechs joke rather than a diffular abstinence joke, blu. Because I iz dirty minded like that.

bluer Sun 16-Dec-12 18:41:52

Ah! God sometimes I am just too innocent for my own good

WinklyVersusTheZombies Sun 16-Dec-12 19:12:32

<curls upper lip, shines monocle>

Why yes good driz, one should have been modest in one's endeavours and not sought the approval of one's fellow man. smile

Northey Sun 16-Dec-12 19:15:57

What, what! Did I miss that lem had had some distincty unVictorian fanjo action today? My thoughts and prayers go with you, my friend.

SinkyMalinks Sun 16-Dec-12 19:17:16

Sometimes I think that about myself bluer

(not really. Mind in the gutter me. Much like norf it seems..)

You are too kind Norf old chap. Terrible trouble this jobs malarkey. I blame all those bloody women, leaving the home, getting jobs and ideas above their station..

<harruphs into scotch. Clips end off cigar>

SinkyMalinks Sun 16-Dec-12 19:19:05

<discreetly fans self. Ensures ankles are covered>

fanjo action?!

The horrors. Beastly.

WinklyVersusTheZombies Sun 16-Dec-12 19:37:18

drizzle just has a good look at your update. Sorry for apparently completely ignoring you. Fx that all went well. Good luck with not going crazy menkulling, do you have to wait 14 days until testing?

lovesLemonDrizzleCake Sun 16-Dec-12 19:41:45

Me surely not. A fanjo is not a part a real gentleman is acquainted with, I'll have you know. Apologies btw for all the spelling mistakes when I try to alk posh waste waist coat. Tssk.

T-day is on January 1st, which is 16dpo. Pre-mc my droidal appearance was very reliably on 14dpo. So I probably won't test. It becomes interesting well after Christmas. So I should survive (unless my cycles are messed up, which I am a little concerned about, cos I had pant snot since Wed, sorry, unVictorian overshare there, and I have had droidal arrival 14days after pant snot the last two cycles),

Those bloody women indeed, Sinkster someone should make them behave... At this rate the world is coming to an end (next Friday, right - oh that was another feme). But why in the world would you want a job anyway? One would struggle to fit in sport and company and walking the dogs.

lovesLemonDrizzleCake Sun 16-Dec-12 19:43:08

PS wink I didn't remotely feel ignored. You responded well to my admonition (I really can't spell!)

EuroShagmore Sun 16-Dec-12 20:07:03

My felicitations on the new abode, Madam Winks.

I have had a lovely weekend - yesterday: buying tree, getting last presents, doing food shop (including some festive booze); today: clearing fallen leaves, decorating tree, writing Xmas cards. Now I'm uploading my holiday pics to photobox so I can make a lovely photobook to remember it by. Busy but fun.

Frankelstein Sun 16-Dec-12 20:40:08

<Nicks Winkly's monocle>

I had to share this with you all. I heard it on the radio this morning and think its fab grin

<lights pipe>

RockinaroundtheTippletree Sun 16-Dec-12 20:49:31

Frankel on SPOTY!

Northey Sun 16-Dec-12 21:10:30

Why is Frankel not a nominee, ffs?

Maybe they should start an animal SPOTY category! It would be a couple of horses and the winning dog from one Man And His Dog every year and would be unbearably fab.

Frankelstein Sun 16-Dec-12 21:42:45

I'm gutted that Sir Henry Cecil (Frankel's trainer) is not getting the Lifetime Achievement Award sad

RockinaroundtheTippletree Sun 16-Dec-12 22:38:41

I have no idea about the training of a racehorse Frankel but I wish he'd won too. Seb Coe is such a smug smarmy twat, he just has a face perfect for punching. I was kinda hoping the Duchess would projectile vomit over him. How funny would that have been. grin

Northey Mon 17-Dec-12 06:37:47

On the train again for another week. I could really do without today, I must say. I took a ton of work home and failed to do any of it. As a consequence, today will be shit.

Northey Mon 17-Dec-12 06:40:22

Also, I have fractionally tender nipples. I have had sechs twice this cycle, once on CD6 and once on CD22. I am currently on CD24. I have no idea why I am even wondering, to be honest.

WinklyVersusTheZombies Mon 17-Dec-12 07:48:53

Because that is what we do.

I am in work waiting for the world's slowest computer to start up, I could weep I have so much to do.

Frankelstein Mon 17-Dec-12 07:55:43

<eyes up Norfs kidneys, just for the hell of it>

I still haven't ovulated angry CD bloody 40 confused. If I don't ov in the next 3 days it will be my longest cycle since my mammoth 170-something cycle when coming off the Pill hmm We are at least managing the sechs - twice over the weekend and HWHNN has promised we'll aim for every other day over Christmas and New Year - lucky git is now off work until 3rd Jan envy

Tippy I don't just say Sir Henry because of his Frankel connections, the man is truly a genius and so deserving of such an award: Champion Trainer in the 70s and 80s, he faded into almost obscurity by the early 2000s, his marriage broke down, his twin brother died and he had his worst ever season training just 12 winners. Slowly he built himself back up, refusing to retire and give in. He's also been battling stomach cancer for the last few years - the same disease that took his brother. The recent pictures of him on the racecourse have been shocking, but he is apparently making progress again.

This was Sir Henry in October 2011 and this was him in August this year sad

ArielTheBahHumbugMermaid Mon 17-Dec-12 13:55:36

Good afternoon. Heartily, that thread moved Briskly.

Apologies for my protracted absence. I was undertaking a Visit at the home of my husband's dear brother, his Good Wife and their childish charges.

FriendofDorothy Mon 17-Dec-12 15:58:02

Oh. Here you all are!

Frankelstein Mon 17-Dec-12 16:39:36

Did they all survive Rie? wink

ArielTheBahHumbugMermaid Mon 17-Dec-12 16:51:10

Yes. I even took them to school!

EuroShagmore Mon 17-Dec-12 16:54:57

Hi Dor. How are things in the CRESH?

WinklyVersusTheZombies Mon 17-Dec-12 17:42:36

Hi dor, how's it going?

Good effort rie, both with the in-laws and your on-theme post.

Kickboxing has Damaged me. My knee is killing. I think I may have twisted it. I didnt expect to be injured until after my work Christmas do tomorrow.

I found some excellent pant snot this morning, and had some sech this afternoon. Menkul-free Christmas is definitely off.

How was your day in the end norf?

Northey Mon 17-Dec-12 19:38:51

Well, MrWinkle. I didn't achieve what I set out to, but ended the day feeling reasonably comfortable about that.

SinkyMalinks Mon 17-Dec-12 20:51:40

Ho hum. Am waiting for night hell shift to start...

JethroTull Mon 17-Dec-12 21:12:26

Heaven forefend the slander of Seb Coe Tips. In our house he is a legend. His politics annoy me but as an athlete he was the greatest 800 & 1500m runner ever. <steps of soap box, straightens cravat>

School run dearest Rie do they not board? Or have a governess?

Stabbing doth continue in this house. I'm feeling a little mental.

Our dog ate Christmas cake & is now spending the night at the vets.

JethroTull Mon 17-Dec-12 21:13:14

Sinks you might have said before but pray tell what do you do on a night shift?

OComeAllYeFaithBaby Mon 17-Dec-12 21:14:03

MrNorf <pours petroleum on the open fire of menkul> according to my dates I got diffed from sechs on CD6!

Well done Mrwink. I recommend lots of Brie and rum over the Yuletide period. Ouch to the knee. You need medicinal brandy for that. Dr Faith has spoken!

Good luck sinks, hope its not too bad!

I had a luffly day. My Dad had a spare ticket to a Christmas sing-a-long at a proper old fashioned cinema. 'twas so much fun singing to old classics. I was one of only two under 40 but I think she was there as a carer but it was great! grin

ArielTheBahHumbugMermaid Mon 17-Dec-12 21:16:51

Poor silly JethroDog. Is he ok? Was it the raisins?

Sorry to hear about the mentalness sad

There is nowhere left for Seb to go unless they make him into an Actual Duke or something.

Northey Mon 17-Dec-12 21:23:54

Contemptible hound! He will be much chastened by his experience, I pray.

Frankelstein Mon 17-Dec-12 21:26:04

Aww, poor doggy. Hope he's better soon MrJethro.

I have slight menkul here, my lower back has been achey for the last week or so but has been worse over the last couple of days. Ridiculous, I'm not even sure I have ov'd, so how the hell I can menkul I really don't know confused

<throws another log on the fire>

ArielTheBahHumbugMermaid Mon 17-Dec-12 21:29:17

Oh, good Victoriana, Norf <impressed>

FriendofDorothy Mon 17-Dec-12 22:16:16

Things are going fine thanks. Well apart from having a fanjo that looks like someone has been doing embroidery samplers on it. Edward is well worth it tho so I am not complaining.

I hope you don't mind me popping in every now and then to keep up with the gossip.

ArielTheBahHumbugMermaid Mon 17-Dec-12 22:31:42

How is the fanjo Dor? Is it very ouchy? <concerned>

SinkyMalinks Mon 17-Dec-12 22:33:50

For fear my good gentlemen, for i am of the physicianly persuasion. And, as the witching hours draws ever thus, I wrestle with the pox and demonic fevers that afflict my kin so ill.

I'm too fecking old for nights. Grumble

JethroTull Mon 17-Dec-12 22:38:15

Dearest Sinks your response has filled me with much mirth.

ArielTheBahHumbugMermaid Mon 17-Dec-12 22:39:03

I am minded likewise <flounders slightly>

SinkyMalinks Mon 17-Dec-12 22:39:50

Hope the fanjo isn't too hurty dor

FriendofDorothy Mon 17-Dec-12 22:41:04

It is pretty ouchy. They took longer to stitch me up than it did to deliver the boy. Made worse by being too scared to poo. No-one tells you about these nice bits if childbirth!

lovesLemonDrizzleCake Tue 18-Dec-12 06:27:11

Good morrow gentleman.

Mrwink is providing mirth on the early morrow. On the contrariness, mrdot doth cause the raise of my most esteemed right eyebrow surely fanjo ain't Victorian

SinkyMalinks Tue 18-Dec-12 07:13:30

Good morrow. My heart gladdens to see the weak sun. My smelling salts have long since depleted.

<raises pipe to welcome the day>

Northey Tue 18-Dec-12 07:33:18

<drops monocle in shock at the sight of a ^raised pipe^>

Northey Tue 18-Dec-12 07:37:14

Raised pipes aside, fair breaks the dawn this morning. I have feasted well on a delicious leftover samosa made for me by my good manservant whom I brought home on furlough from the foothills of the Himalayas and now proceed at a goodly pace to my place of employment.

I think I'm mixing up my eras here, but phooey to that.

FrankelcenseAndMyhrr Tue 18-Dec-12 07:59:18

<coughs and points to name change>

A blessing on your houses this fine cloudy morning my good fellows. I wish you all a joyous day at your travails. grin

evilgiraffe Tue 18-Dec-12 08:03:53

Raised pipe! Hahahaha! grin


Good morrow, one and all. My esteemed husband and I travelled last evening to observe a set of moving pictures, which we found most agreeable. I urge you to attend a showing regarding the exploits of Bilbo Baggins, and Thorin and Company, as it is really most diverting. The good gentlemen Mr Freeman, Mr Armitage, and Mr Turner I found particularly excellent in the portrayal of their assigned characters.

Also, CD4 today and finally temp has shot through the floor. Back on the sechs wagon over Chistmas...

FrankelcenseAndMyhrr Tue 18-Dec-12 08:15:05

MrEvil my good husband and I intend to attend the house of moving pictures these 4 days hence to observe the very same. Did your eyes happen upon an advertisement for a moving picture about trekking across the stars, in the dark? wink Did thee happen to see the goodly sex god Mr Cumberbatch? <rubs thighs>

evilgiraffe Tue 18-Dec-12 08:30:43

I'm afraid, my dear Frank, that we did not see an advertisement such as that you describe. However, I am given to understand that a new advertisement for said picture was released for public viewing yesterday. I shall endeavour to find a source today!

We did not, alas, see the delightful Mr Cumberbatch. However, we did see glimpses of his character the dragon, which seemed to us a marvellous use of computed imagery. I trust that Mr Cumberbatch will be present in the further instalments of the story.

evilgiraffe Tue 18-Dec-12 08:46:53

Star Trek trailer here - click on "teaser". It looks SO GOOD. I'm beyond excited about it, and the Kirk/Bones running is fabulous, though in my head they hold hands as they fall... Benedict is brilliant, he has such a wonderful voice and impeccable timing. "You are not" is my favourite line from the trailer, I think grin

ArielTheBahHumbugMermaid Tue 18-Dec-12 08:49:09

Droid is on the way. And I have to clean the oven <glum>

Oh sorry. Er.

Alas, I find my monthly inconvenient time is approaching and therefore I am momentarily disinclined to merriment and mirth. However, I shall endeavour to raise my spirits and look forward to attending that same set of moving pictures starring Mr Freeman &tc over the festive time. Presently however I have numerous tasks to undertake, all of which ought to have been successfully achieved by today yet are not such as making fresh the very awful range Downstairs (perhaps I shall find a common tradesman to fulfil the task on my behalf if I find it too onerous). Moreover I even yet need to complete the writing of Christmas Greetings to friends and relations and entrusting them to the good care of our Royal Postal Service (God bless Her Majesty). I know I ought to set about said tasks without beating my breast and wailing and I find I cannot. I am more inclined to lie in my bed with a fit of the vapours about the forthcoming period of Enforced Joy.

ArielTheBahHumbugMermaid Tue 18-Dec-12 08:49:50

(I am quite proud of that, btw grin )

ArielTheBahHumbugMermaid Tue 18-Dec-12 08:51:31

PS I think these very diverting posts are perhaps more of Miss Austen's time, which incidentally makes a splendid idea for a Thread.

evilgiraffe Tue 18-Dec-12 09:35:32

My dear rie, do you not have a scullery maid on whom to set the task of scrubbing the range? If not, I do sympathise, and suggest you employ the services of Mr Muscle, &c. It may also interest you to know I was most surprised to discover on borrowing a steam cleansing device from a friend some time ago that it was most effective at cleaning our - albeit small - range. I believe the device proved quite a bargain to my friend, having purchased it for something in the region of ten pounds.

The writing of Christmas Greetings does prove to be a burden, I find. Thus far this year, I have sent only two, and those within packets containing gifts for my cousins' children. Thankfully, we shall be visiting my closest relatives this week, and so I shall be able to hand over the greetings in person.

I figured Victorian Gentlemen rather meant "olde worlde in general" - I'm not good enough at history to be able to adjust my style quite that precisely!

ArielTheBahHumbugMermaid Tue 18-Dec-12 09:44:52

But your skill in this realm is very impressive, my dear MrGiraffe.

(I read Queen Victoria's letters to her daughter Vicky , wife of Frederick of Prussia. They are full of underlinings for random emphasis )

SinkyMalinks Tue 18-Dec-12 09:55:35

I, in truth, could claim to be neither a scholer of the arts, nor of history. Yet I find it soothing to use ten delicious words when previously but one would suffice.

I also find Mr Ries use of a careful _ _ most joyous. I beseech you to think of me raising an eyebrow and taking a draw on my pipe just so with my liberal use of italics.

2 days to clinic. Papping it

OComeAllYeFaithBaby Tue 18-Dec-12 09:56:58

Greetings fair gentlemen!

MrNorf I happened across your portraits from your Christmas shindig. You looked quite admirable!

Commiserations for impending monthly woes. Never a fun or pleasant task.

MrFrank I am in admiration of your name good sir.

I am suffering from fatigue but have little to do except clean instruct my scullery maid then go wassailing to the sick at the hospital this evening! grin

ArielTheBahHumbugMermaid Tue 18-Dec-12 10:03:10

I too will be a-wassailing tomorrow. Heartily, I need to find some Christmas cheers. Sigh.

I have been perusing the information regarding a Certain Product called Oven Pride. Has anyone ever used to the said product? Were the results are promised on the accompanying advertisement? Or, do any of you good gentlemen employ a scullery maid who has made use of the product?

ArielTheBahHumbugMermaid Tue 18-Dec-12 10:05:01

(This would all be much funnier if I actually proofread my posts. Twat)

OComeAllYeFaithBaby Tue 18-Dec-12 10:11:34

I do believe my scullery maid has used oven pride on several occasions and waxed lyrical about its effectiveness.
I was ruddy amazed at how clean the stuff looked despite having not really thoroughly cleaned the oven previously

evilgiraffe Tue 18-Dec-12 10:12:11

I find myself feeling rather similar, my dear sink. Despite being educated in the natural sciences, I have had a certain fondness for the written word for as long as I can remember. My formative years may have been more influenced by the works of Miss Austen and the Bronte sisters than I had hitherto imagined... Employing such a style is most entertaining to the soul and a challenge to the wit.

I must leave you for a time, I shall be viewing Mr Cumberbatch in his role as Sherlock Holmes whilst undertaking the task of pressing my husband's shirts. Mr Cumberbatch and Mr Freeman perform together quite delightfully, and I cannot be surprised at the depth of love so many people hold for them.

Until we meet again, dear friends, adieu!

ArielTheBahHumbugMermaid Tue 18-Dec-12 10:23:24

It is a truth universally acknowledged that a nominally intelligent person in possession of a good arts and history degree shall when the occasion demands it be left floundering when a Victorian Style is required, and made to look inferior by those of a Scientific turn of mind.

Northey Tue 18-Dec-12 14:32:15

Verily, good sirs, I have enjoyed a fine repast. Although I am barren, I can give the semblance of advanced gravidity with worrisome ease.

ArielTheBahHumbugMermaid Tue 18-Dec-12 14:51:10

You must calm down. If you eat any more, heartily you will turn into a pie shop.

<shameless stealing from Blackadder's Christmas carol>

Northey Tue 18-Dec-12 15:23:04

Verily, for I go tonight to dine at W- with my good friend C-.

I can't be arsed with work today.

EuroShagmore Tue 18-Dec-12 15:27:45

I am also struggling today (to get into the feme as well as to do my work).

Someone has asked me to do something that I think we both thought would take a few hours. It has turned into a much, much bigger task! And now I am stuck with it when it is not even properly my case. And I have a big task to do on what is properly my case. That I cannot get to. Grrrr.

EuroShagmore Tue 18-Dec-12 18:01:34

Oops. I killed freddy.

SinkyMalinks Tue 18-Dec-12 18:31:05

Nah, I think all are v busy with Xmas related fun. Except me. I've woken up with a splitting headache and need to head to work soon. Grim.

What's the plan with work then Euro? Can you pass back some of the work?

ArielTheBahHumbugMermaid Tue 18-Dec-12 20:09:42

I'm not. I have just been to Tesco after fighting with MrA all afternoon.

OComeAllYeFaithBaby Tue 18-Dec-12 20:23:01

After cleaning/tidying most of the day, I just went and carolled round the wards at the hospital to cheer up the patients grin

Sorry you're fighty rie. Is it about the festive season?

ArielTheBahHumbugMermaid Tue 18-Dec-12 20:25:52

What else? <glum>

OComeAllYeFaithBaby Tue 18-Dec-12 20:42:41

Any resolution?

EuroShagmore Tue 18-Dec-12 20:50:43

Phew I have managed to offload one major task, which makes it all a bit more manageable. I feel bad though. But at least I can go home now....

Sorry to hear things are fighty Rie.

Right, I'm leaving the office. And no barstd is going to stop me!

ArielTheBahHumbugMermaid Tue 18-Dec-12 21:20:37

I think you are entitled to get out at this hour Euro.

Pray join us in the Austen talk later.

The discord was equably settled to the satisfaction of both parties, thank you MrFaith.

ArielTheBahHumbugMermaid Tue 18-Dec-12 21:22:48

Lord, I knew there was one think which I had intended to tell you. I purchased the Product named "Oven Pride" which has been recommended as the scourge of all filth in the range. I will be certain to keep you informed as to its efficacy through regular updates through the morrow.

WinklyVersusTheZombies Tue 18-Dec-12 21:27:19

One has been to the annual seasonal festivities frequented by those with whom one toils. Repast and bibements at R- - reasonably diverting but have run out of feem speak pleased to have escaped sober and undisgraced. 2 more working days til I get a proper rest, thank goodness.

EuroShagmore Tue 18-Dec-12 22:29:05

I have some Oven Pride sitting on the kitchen windowsill Rie. It's been there for three days and the oven doesn't look a jot cleaner yet. I might have to complain.

ArielTheBahHumbugMermaid Tue 18-Dec-12 22:35:15

Bastard stuff.

It's like when I bought my self defrosting fridge. No bugger told me it didn't clean itself as well.

Northey Wed 19-Dec-12 07:36:54

Morning all. AMNH arrives today for an early jizz test tomorrow. Hurrah! We're going to see the Hobbit to get his juices flowing in a manner that only works for geeky male Tolkien obsessives.

<smoothes beard>

JethroTull Wed 19-Dec-12 09:47:44

You have to clean your oven?

EuroShagmore Wed 19-Dec-12 11:06:02

You do after KFZK has been in the kitchen, Jeff. Boy cooking. <mutters>

ArielTheBahHumbugMermaid Wed 19-Dec-12 11:55:18

Jethro please don't think badly on me <begs>

The LL replaced the over last summer and it's not actually been cleaned properly yet. The house is starting to smell like a horrid greasy spoon whenever I use it. And in the winter when there is washing hanging all over the house drying then it makes the clothes smell too.

After the rain last night I have a leaking kitchen. I wish I could get out of this bloody shit pit angry

JustplainoldBuggerlugs Wed 19-Dec-12 12:42:58

<decides she'll never be much of a gentleman so decides to be a bar wench instead>

Afternoon Sirs. How is everyone?

<passes round arnica for all stabby bruises>

CD14 here and i've had 3 dildocam sessions since Friday. The double eggs that were ripening have gone and only 1 remains. The nurse thinks it is due to pop hopefully around Friday / Saturday ish however i have another appointment with the chair of Doom on Friday and Xmas eve <sigh>. They have mentioned they may double the clomid dose i'm on fnext cycle <sigh again>

I work with 2 women, 1 is about to undergo private IVF in January so we'll be a right pair of hormonal loons in the new year. Marvellous.

I'll be in that there London on 28th & 29th Dec if anyone fancies an ESH meet up.

ArielTheBahHumbugMermaid Wed 19-Dec-12 13:43:24

Just phoned the clinic for a check on the procedure for the next few weeks as I was starting to feel panicky about it, and that I had forgotten everything. They had cancelled my December cycle anyway because the consultant has gone off on long term sick. They can't do it without a consultant. They're hoping he'll be back in January but she doesn't know. I wonder if they would have told me at all if I hadn't phoned. I was supposed to call on the first day of the next period i.e. in the next few days. Now I have a headache from the meltdown I have just had on the bed.

EuroShagmore Wed 19-Dec-12 13:50:22

Bloody hell Rie that is enormously sh1t. Can the funding be treansferred elsewhere?

Bugs I might be visiting rellies then, but if I'm not smile

ArielTheBahHumbugMermaid Wed 19-Dec-12 13:54:29

We're not remotely near anywhere else. It's 40 miles to the hospital I'm at and over two hours to the next one. There are many many drawbacks to living at the arse end of nowhere despite the nice fucking beaches.

evilgiraffe Wed 19-Dec-12 14:49:56

Such an inconvenient circumstance sounds most distressing, rie. Please accept my sympathies.

Today I was most pleased to discover on standing upon the weighing scale that my vast bulk now measures precisely 30.0 on the Index. This is rather a comfort, suggesting as it does that it may indeed be possible to score Less Than said value in the new year, despite the upcoming festivities and associated large repast.

Bugs, the close monitoring sounds as if it is allowing your situation to be carefully handled - I shall continue to hope for your desired outcome!

evilgiraffe Wed 19-Dec-12 14:54:16

Oh, and FUCK RIGHT OFF to HOTB's childhood friend and his wife. They always send sickening look-at-us-we're-so-bohemian Christmas cards and this year is no exception, except that this year it's signed from "X, Y, and a very large bump!". Signing from a bump makes me ragey enough as it is, do they really have to point out the size? FFS. As if I haven't been teary enough this week. WIBU to rip it into tiny tiny pieces and then chuck it in the recycling already?

ArielTheBahHumbugMermaid Wed 19-Dec-12 14:56:25


OComeAllYeFaithBaby Wed 19-Dec-12 15:00:14

We have received cards to us and 'the bump' but one aside to inform the in their 50s so no chance of upsetting them neighbours we have not signed from it. Especially childless couples or singletons!

rie that is in the realms of pantaloons. I doubt very much they planned to inform you in a timely manner.

bugs here's hoping the follicle is a lucky one!

ArielTheBahHumbugMermaid Wed 19-Dec-12 15:07:04


I put something in Chat about the shitty shitty shitty year I have had and only one person answered. There are too many other threads about Christmas puddings and shopping and stuff. I have a headache from the screaming fit I just had into the duvet. My family is mad. My husband is being a dick. And I am barren. And I got all prepared for a treatment which has JUST BEEN CANCELLED. WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!

JethroTull Wed 19-Dec-12 15:25:40

Rie it's shit shit shit. What have they said will happen next? What is your husband doing or not doing to be a dick? < passes Cod & Sturgeon>.

ArielTheBahHumbugMermaid Wed 19-Dec-12 15:43:34

Oh the still unresolved stuff about insisting on visiting his entire extended family at the the pregnant SIL's house when their parents are all there, even though we were supposed to be having a quiet Christmas. They know about the AC, but they appear to think that we told them for our own amusement rather than telling them because we want some love and understanding from them. He keeps telling me how offended his mother will be if I don't go, even though he has said that he will deal with the offence (so why keep telling me then?) I know what his "dealing with" entails and that's placating and making the mad cow feel as though she is in the right. And he's reluctantly accepted that I am not going to do this, but he will anyway, leaving me either a) on my own at home or b) at my parents' house which is increasingly not an option. So I have decided to go to my sister's when he's up there, but this means going to their house in their car with their toddler, and the cat in her basket, and now he keeps saying how uneasy this makes him, because the cat will be scared if she goes in someone else's car ( even though I will fucking well be there ) and say the nephew cries and damages her ears? Have you honestly ever heard anything so bizarre?I texted him about the cycle cancellation and he didn't even answer, but just phoned me now and went on for ten minutes about some amazing trade discount that he's managed to get. At the end of the conversation he said "So the consultant's ill?" so he DID get the text. Am I just being sensitive? i don't think I am. I am just surrounded by madness at the moment.

EuroShagmore Wed 19-Dec-12 15:45:21

<passes gin>

Alcohol is the answer, whatever the question was. And after a few, who the fvk cares what it was?

Sorry that was very ungentlemanly. How about this: Happy Imbibing.

ArielTheBahHumbugMermaid Wed 19-Dec-12 15:47:02


Fanks BESH

FrankelcenseAndMyhrr Wed 19-Dec-12 15:50:49

Oh Rie sad and angry for you. Men can be useless at times, I think they just like to stick their heads in the sand and pretend the "hard" stuff just isn't happening.

On the subject of signing cards from "bumps", my friend's daughter was sending Christmas cards last year from her, husband and bump, even though she was only 4 months diffed hmm. She then graduated to signing birthday cards using the unborn child's chosen name from 6 months. Double hmm

JethroTull Wed 19-Dec-12 16:01:47

Will your sister look after you Rie? Will she make you cups of tea and let you stay in bed late?

WinklyVersusTheZombies Wed 19-Dec-12 16:23:19

Ah rie, I know we don't do hugs here so I'm not (()) sneaking one in, honest. You have had a spectacularly shitty year sad

ArielTheBahHumbugMermaid Wed 19-Dec-12 16:37:03

My friend just came round with her two badly behaved very cute children and they whirled through the house like a very noisy dervish. Took my mind off things nicely.

He has come home and says in January he will "kick some ass" with the clinic. So that's reassuring smile But yes, they do need to get a locum in if this is a long term thing. They can't just cancel everyone's treatment. And there will be others in the same boat as me, albeit it without the mental family.

Northey Wed 19-Dec-12 18:35:17

Oh my God, rie. What a spectacularly shit set of circumstances. Why is mrA/men in general so utterly crap sometimes? Was it Victorian time when we shipped all our convicts off to Oz? <deports MrA> He needs shaking till his teeth rattle. As does the clinic head, who is allowing stuff to be cancelled. Unbelievable.

JustplainoldBuggerlugs Wed 19-Dec-12 20:38:08

Jeez Rie you are really having a wanky year. <prepares bucket of prawns>

Since your cycle has been cancelled I suggest a shit load of booze, blue cheese, raw eggs and all that shiz. Rebel rebel rebel.

GP is out on the lash tonight and i can't drink. Bastards.

lovesLemonDrizzleCake Wed 19-Dec-12 21:12:51

JEEEZUUSSSSS sorry faif I cannot believe how the shitshower is continuing on you aries. Thinking of you. Not much else to say except to add my whale of a punching bag to the assorted fishies, because somewhere to get rid of the (absolutely not unreasonable) anger might be useful!

lovesLemonDrizzleCake Wed 19-Dec-12 21:15:16

I bid you gentlemen good evening, as my previous scibent missile was beyond the style of this highly polished and educated conversation. I wonder whether we can ship our good gentlemen's marital friends to a place of further development so as to become better equipped to deal with life's trials and tribulations through the fine art of listening and comprehension...

lovesLemonDrizzleCake Wed 19-Dec-12 21:19:50

Besides and beyond my previous epistle I would heartily congratulate Mrdraff for his efforts at the weighing scales. Although I am forced to admit my shock and horror at the thought of loosing mass being desirable. Surely, it is truth universally acknowledged that the best gentlemen are endowed with sizeable physical appearances and one of the advantages of the festive season is the opportune number and quality of the feasts one is expected to partake in.

SinkyMalinks Wed 19-Dec-12 21:54:49

Tough times Rie. GHJ does the same with clinic fuck ups. He gives a cursory nod in acknowledgement. But, to be fair, when needed (perhaps a little later than I'd like) he gets his rage on and sorts everything out (that I've been totally unable to do in the months preceeding). Any likely hood mr rie is going to launch into action?

On nights. Still.

Appointment tomorrow 9am. I'm not excited. I feel sick.

EuroShagmore Wed 19-Dec-12 22:40:39

To add to the fred wankishess today, droid just arrived.

<Struggles through the crowd to cop a feel of the cod of comfort>

On to cycle 27. <Sigh>

EuroShagmore Wed 19-Dec-12 22:55:23

Oh, and my next period is probably going to come on my birthday.

My first period that marked the failure of our first actively ttcing cycle arrived on my birthday two years ago. It would have a nice symmetry if it happened again, dontcha think?

Northey Wed 19-Dec-12 22:58:28

Commiserations, eu. The cycle after this one is natural ivf, no?

rie, how are you feeling now?

JethroTull Wed 19-Dec-12 23:06:00

My dear fellows I had some news today that we should all digest and perchance find some solace in. A dear friend has but one child, he was much longed for and somewhat of a miracle. She has always hoped for another but alas was unable for 6 long years. Until this month!

Victoriana aside, she's been trying since her son was 18 months, he's almost 7 now. She had finally got her husband to agree to get a jizz test & found out when she was having a dildocam done prior to being prescribed Colmid. Brought tears to my eyes when she told me.

Day 6 of stabbing. I feel fine. A bit hot but fine.

evilgiraffe Wed 19-Dec-12 23:18:18

Oh, euro, that is crappy. In the last twelve months I've had droids arrive on Christmas Eve, Mother's Day, and Father's Day - but thankfully not my birthday. Fingers crossed 2013 is better for all.

Jeff, that is lovely news smile

I'm going for an ultrasound tomorrow afternoon to check on my cysts. I wonder if the big one has changed and if all the tiny ones have done anything. I have no clue about these things <shrug>

ArielTheBahHumbugMermaid Wed 19-Dec-12 23:19:48

Hello BESHes. Thank you for your lovely words of solace. I do actually feel much comforted. In addition I spent the evening at a Christmas soiree and then repaired to the public house in order to toast the season and wish each other well.During this time I happened to fall into conversation with a fellow member of our singing group, and conversation happened to proceed to matters pertaining to fertility and the procurement of offspring. And I chanced to find out that she has three children, the first of whom was born when the good lady was 38, the second at 39 and she has recently been safely delivered of a daughter at the age of almost 42. As you can imagine I was much, much cheered by this turn of events. We exchanged telephone numbers - if by the grace of God this newfangled invention of Mr Bell's continues - and resolved to keep in touch forthwith after wishing each other compliments of the festive season.

I thank you greatly for your kindnesses earlier.

ArielTheBahHumbugMermaid Wed 19-Dec-12 23:24:38

Is there a BESH out there who won't have a non-penile implement shoved up her fanny in the forthcoming months? Well?

Northey Thu 20-Dec-12 00:06:44

Probably a million tampons <gloomy>

mrmermaid, my good sir, I am deeply sensible that your language is quite above the common.

OComeAllYeFaithBaby Thu 20-Dec-12 05:44:25

Wishing you all the best for this fine morning a appointment MrSinks.

bluer Thu 20-Dec-12 06:23:48

Morning gentleman...sorry the Droid for you euro and rie I'm so sorry...its so shiite when they mess you about on appointments etc. I remember my mums final op having to be canceled as the only surgeon who could do it broke his wrist skiing....I remember being furious and how dare he ski when he had such important hands!
Well I'm mildly panicked today as my buZwams have been agony for the last two Weeks but yesterday less so and today not at all...I have no other symptoms and now I'm getting really worried.
<stands and strokes moustache thoughtfully>

Northey Thu 20-Dec-12 07:23:10

May fortune go with you this morning, MrSinks, sir. What is this one for?

AMNH is off to repeat his jizz test today for an updated picture of the state of his bollocks.

SinkyMalinks Thu 20-Dec-12 08:10:27

Tis my first appointment peeps.

Did all the clomid jazz at one clinic, but they didn't do any more than that, so it referred in April (!) to our local ivf centre. Got bloods, fanjo cam and GHJ's boys checked in aug. This is the appointment after that. I presume to give us results and tell us what next?

But who's to say. Maybe it'll be another fannycam. That'd be nice.

Northey Thu 20-Dec-12 08:26:09

Keeping the old fanjo presentable is a full time job through all these potential dildo moments.

EuroShagmore Thu 20-Dec-12 11:34:47

Yep norfy. One more cycle of futile fvking to go, and then natural IVF, so I'm probably looking at EC in late Jan.

Not I, Rie. I shall be having a good dildocamming in late Jan, I expect.

blu I think it's normal for preggo symptoms to come and go a bit. My friend had a couple of miscarriages and then her son. During the last pregnancy she had hyperemesis. Every time the symptoms abated enough for her to hold something down she panicked. But I think it's normal.

FrankelcenseAndMyhrr Thu 20-Dec-12 13:53:26

Good luck to all with appointments in the offing. I myself have yet to lay my golden egg, that would be too simple! Mega-cycle here we go again!

evilgiraffe Thu 20-Dec-12 16:34:57

Ultrasound done. Right ovary still polycystic, left ovary still has one large cyst. Sonographer also thought my left fallopian tube may be dilated. She thought I should prob be referred to gynae to investigate all this before ivf, so in the new year I shall be requesting referral for both... She thought laparoscopy would likely be needed to investigate, which will be a new experience anyway.

ArielTheBahHumbugMermaid Thu 20-Dec-12 17:39:54

At least you'll be knocked out for that <hairstrokes> How do you feel about that?

SinkyMalinks Thu 20-Dec-12 19:04:39

Draf, My lap was fine. Apart from downing 3 litres to try and pee so they would discharge me, then vomiting it all on my driveway. But seriously, paracetamol and codeine, a sofa and the tv on day one and was back at work on day 4.

So... Clinic. Apparently ghj's jizz is not as good as our last unit said. Numbers, motility etc all good, but normal morphology is 1%. (normal is 4%- who knew 96% of sperm are deformed?). This means they are offering icsi rather than plain ivf. This sounds big. They're also worried because I'm young (hollow laugh), have loads of follicles and a high amh that I'll overstimulate. And, they remind me, I only get 1 nhs funded cycle.

So. Next cylce I'm going to be on menopur injections with all the scans you can shake a dildocam at. Apparently it might work, but it also will help predict how I'll respond to ivf and tailor the drugs.

This is real now isn't it?

<signs up to be member of "most barren BESHes ever" club>

SinkyMalinks Thu 20-Dec-12 19:59:25

Oh, and how could I forget. Metformin.

Anyone had it? Not looking forward to starting that over Christmas..

Northey Thu 20-Dec-12 20:10:32

Yeah, I was on it for a few years. I stopped at the ectopic, becauseivf concerns about the interaction with methotrexate and haven't bothered starting again because I know I've got ivf coming up. I found it utterly unproblematic. No vomiting, no excessive pooing, no weirdness. Nothing.

SinkyMalinks Thu 20-Dec-12 20:19:47

Good to hear.

Consultant thought it wouldn't make me ov, but might help the injections make me ov. Or some such.

I just see all the side effects at work. And between you, me and the Internet, my bowels really don't need any help in that dept.

<ahem. Slinks under stone after grim overshare>

I doff my hat gentlemen. I must ajourn to my evening repast of ministering smelling salts to the ailing.

FrankelcenseAndMyhrr Thu 20-Dec-12 21:11:14

I am currently watching the jumping of horses from Olympia on a newfangled device called "The Red Button". It is a source of great joy to me grin

Northey Thu 20-Dec-12 21:11:56

Laudanum for everything, DoctorSink, laudanum for everything.

Northey Thu 20-Dec-12 21:13:28

It delights me to hear that your red button is such a source of pleasure to you, my dear man. Ahem.

evilgiraffe Fri 21-Dec-12 00:09:02

Glad to hear lap is not too scary, thanks, sink. I'm not worried (much) about anaesthetics, though the last time I had a general I was twelve, so might be a different feeling these days. Sounds like your next cycle will be full of nosy parkers, but I suppose close monitoring is useful? Knowledge is power and all that.

EuroShagmore Fri 21-Dec-12 08:12:44

Morning all.

I had a lovely evening last night, getting lightly battered with my old junior (who is now a bigshot barrister who probably earns three times as much as I do). And I don't seem to be overhung this morning by some miracle. Huzzah!

<Sticks two fingers up at ttc clean living>

I had a lap when I was 19, draf. I don't remember it being too bad. I had it on a Thursday or Friday morning. On Sunday, I travelled by coach from London to Birmingham (back to university - I had the op at my home hospital as I'd started investigations pre-yooni) and felt a bit fragile but managed it (including carrying my weekend bag). (Unfortunately I then got a rash and passed out, which my GP decided was a reaction to one of the drugs I had been given, but that is just me. I'm not good with drugs. On the upside, this meant I took the rest of the week off classes and I was inundated with requests to repeat the passing out trick in next week's French grammar class as it distracted the lecturer from verbs for a while.)

Northey Fri 21-Dec-12 08:18:23

Huzzah for what sounds a most excellent evening at your club, mreuro!

My hackney carriage this morning is standing room only and extremely delayed. Am sitting on the floor and wondering why I bothered boarding the damn thing at all. I should just have said I wasn't coming in today and sodded the whole thing.

EuroShagmore Fri 21-Dec-12 09:17:27

I am working from home, waiting for a turkey delivery and a man to come and put a camera down my sewer*.

*This is not a euphemism.

SinkyMalinks Fri 21-Dec-12 09:55:24

This is not a euphemismS


SinkyMalinks Fri 21-Dec-12 09:56:20

Damn rogue S there. Sorry chaps.

(I'm going all 1940's there..)

EuroShagmore Fri 21-Dec-12 11:14:16

Well the centre of my festive repast has been delivered. The sewer man has been (Mr Bazalgette, I presume). I have some Xmas cards to send out to my clients, one letter to organise sending via my secretary and then I am about done. Huzzah.

ArielTheBahHumbugMermaid Fri 21-Dec-12 12:09:23

Excellent idea for next fred. 1940s wartime theme.

What ho.

EuroShagmore Fri 21-Dec-12 12:19:07

That is a good idea Rie.

KFZK looks like he dropped straight out of the 1940s. You know how Vic Reeves used to refer to "50s throwback Mark Lamarr"? I do the equivalent for KFZK and shout things like "chocs away, ginger" at him in faux received pronunciation.

How are you feeling today?

JustplainoldBuggerlugs Fri 21-Dec-12 12:37:21

Morning Sirs

What size bird have you opted for Euro?

I am collecting mine on Xmas eve before i venture to the hospital AGAIN for more dildocam fun. They think i will ov this weekend so GP is on a promise for tomorrow. My follicle is 21mm. <sends vibes to self>

I WILL get pregnant this month. I will <Determind>

EuroShagmore Fri 21-Dec-12 13:02:31

I think it's 4.something kg. I haven't paid much attention. That sort of thing of KFZK's domain.

I reckon ov is imminent, Bugs. Happy shagging. I think I used to ov when mine got to 20-22mm.

ArielTheBahHumbugMermaid Fri 21-Dec-12 13:10:53

How often are all you all scanning? I am dreading this bit a little. Each scan will involve a 70 mile round trip.

lovesLemonDrizzleCake Fri 21-Dec-12 13:18:02

I bid you gentlemen good day!

The assessment of our most-esteemed Doctor Shagmore seems very accurate, my dearest bugsy fellow, as to the departure of your most-fertile egg-specimen form its former host, the ovary. Mine pop within 24 hours post 21mm I wish you a pleasant evening tonight.

I have to say I am heartely glad that I found such a company (or should that say club) of likeminded gentlemen who ass a collective have reached formerly unheard of hights in barrenness.

My condolences again about the unexplainable delays to you, mrArie although I am heartely encouraged to see your fine specimens of Victorian writing reappearing. Similar condolences about the poorly results from your most esteemed partner, and the resulting encouragement to leave even more of the unfathomable process of fertilisation in the hands of our most esteemed physicians MrSink. Menopur is wot I got diffed on, though. So...

My most hearfelt shock and sympathies regarding the forthcoming investigative procedures in the stomach area, my dearest mrDraff. As you might be aware, my humble person underwent the very same and although nothing was discovered, the month after the procedure my indisposition very temporary diffage occurred.

MrShagmore it is good to hear you're helping out the kitchen maids with the delivery of the centre of your Chrismas Feast. And that the sink is getting a lap wink. We are doing the bahhumbug no christmas, although I shall discuss with my most esteemed partner what we shall be repasting on, while we entertain ourselves with board games, knitting and some new-fangled invention, the dvd box.

Have you gentlemen experienced the mist to shroud ourselved from the end of time?

lovesLemonDrizzleCake Fri 21-Dec-12 13:20:20

Aries you are like me, right, SO+IUI? This cycle, which was long for me, I had a scan at day 3 (to check you can go ahead) another one at day 8, 11, 12 and IUI on day 14. When my cycle behaves more predictably, it is cd3, 8, 10, IUI on cd12.

EuroShagmore Fri 21-Dec-12 13:45:14

When I had natural IUI (twice), I had one scan each cycle around day 12, just to time the turkey basting.

With Letrozole monitoring, the first cycle I had a scan on day 12 and oved on day 20 (I would have had more, but it fell over Xmas last year), the second cycle I was scanned on day 16 and had already oved. I can't remember what happened on the third cycle. I think it was one scan just before ov.

ArielTheBahHumbugMermaid Fri 21-Dec-12 13:46:41

Drizz. Oh. Holy. Jesus. All those scans. All those miles sad

lovesLemonDrizzleCake Fri 21-Dec-12 13:58:30

When I did natural IUI, aries, I did just the one scan on day 11 usually. But my cycles have become a lot more unpredictable post-mc AND they are shit-scared about overstimming at my clinic. (And it is more or less on my way to work, and these scanning appointments are always between 8 and 9am, so it is doable).

ArielTheBahHumbugMermaid Fri 21-Dec-12 14:02:36

Ah ok. It's just MrA is a supply teacher and we have just the one car. We'll have to think of something...

lovesLemonDrizzleCake Fri 21-Dec-12 14:10:47

I'd call the clinic and ask for their normal protocol (and add a bonus scan in to your calculations, in case your cycles do bonkers stuff as well). But don't get too panicked yet!

ArielTheBahHumbugMermaid Fri 21-Dec-12 14:37:48

I might POAS tomorrow. Just for a laugh, like despite womble cramps and sore boobs and general Rage Wouldn't want the stix to go out of date or owt.

evilgiraffe Fri 21-Dec-12 14:53:11

Come new year I'm throwing out all my sticks, rie - they went out of date a good six months ago, if not more <glum>

lovesLemonDrizzleCake Fri 21-Dec-12 17:16:01

My pee sticks went out of date the month after my diffage. And I did not use them all. Since that is many moons ago now, I shall have to go to the shops if I ever need to test again (and I hate that).

PS Should I join the IVF in the new year fred too? We are considering/discussing with clinic in Feb whether to move up to the big stuff, if the next two cycles of IUI don't produce diffage...

JustplainoldBuggerlugs Fri 21-Dec-12 19:33:19

Don't buy piss sticks from shops <shouty> Amazon is your savior!

I seem to recall Dor being prescribed a rampant weekend, her and MrDor had the sechs about a billion times and viola she's just had a baby.

We're only planning to do it twice, tomorrow morning and Sunday evening. Will that be enough? <Panics> We did it last night if that helps.

Rie I'm afraid to tell you I have been at the hospital for scans every other day since last Friday so 4 times already and I have to return on Monday to check I've ov'd. IUI may be different to Clomid though.

Northey Fri 21-Dec-12 21:56:44

mrRie, honesty compels me to admit that my visits to the infirmary for the purposes of conjuring a daguerreotype of my most innardly parts occurred once every two days for ten days in a row. That was travelling from Gwent to Berkshire and back each time so I share your most natural sentiments of feckitude.

Northey Fri 21-Dec-12 21:58:53

mrLemon, the NY IVF fred would be deeply sensible of the Honour of your Presence. The more BESH the better, so huggy kissy hunners don't secretly infiltrate.

ArielTheBahHumbugMermaid Fri 21-Dec-12 22:01:58

Lord <weak>

Well at least mine's not as far as that.

No we don't want any hunners.

Northey Fri 21-Dec-12 22:05:18

I fear it may be on the edge if we don't get in there and set the tone. I've set the ball rolling by referring to the male member. Because I iz coarse.

ArielTheBahHumbugMermaid Fri 21-Dec-12 22:18:00

RIGHT. I'M THERE! <yells>

lovesLemonDrizzleCake Sat 22-Dec-12 06:54:06

Sorry... I was not. I was drinking too much wine and subtely (I thought) demanding SFF. I shall make my hungover presence known now!

Northey Sat 22-Dec-12 07:08:10

And were you gratified in your demands, mrlem?

lovesLemonDrizzleCake Sat 22-Dec-12 07:12:52

They are a bit too good to be true still - how the hell do they do that when hitting IVF? But I've outed myself as the laziest TCC lifestyle changer, with my simple folic acid, and no more. (Well a bit of weight restriction, but then that would be good without TTC as well).

I wonder whether they'll kick me out as undeserving? If I hit IVF I might not drink during it (because the hormones give me headaches, so I won't combine and I might actually abstain during the WWs). No promises though!

lovesLemonDrizzleCake Sat 22-Dec-12 07:14:30

Als MrNorth the quality of your egglets does not seem to be the issue, its the little hairs in the fallopian tubes, right? (I think fallopian tubes is a naturally victorian word, just from its sound). Also, I need to find my trainers to go and row soon. SB is sleeping in the same room, I suspect he won't be overly pleased!

Northey Sat 22-Dec-12 07:23:24

An excellent point, mrLeamingtonSpa, and one which I had not considered. I shall henceforth abandon egg-related guilt and just get on with the rest, which all sound like reasonable early by lifestyle stuff anyway.

Where do you row? Are you on the Tideway or do you live Elsewhere?

JethroTull Sat 22-Dec-12 10:55:38

Stamp out the Hunners right away. Language like that is just Not Called For.

I'm impressed with the rowing Drizz. It's binning it down here, boardering on torrential so I am not leaving the house. The dog won't even leave the house it's that wet.

I've got the most painful boobs ever. I don't understand how this is possible - the drugs are meant to be getting rid of hormones right? So why do my boobs hurt?? Ouch. Also I am so grumpy. I'm hoping the fecking droid turns up soon. Meh.

ArielTheBahHumbugMermaid Sat 22-Dec-12 11:10:48

Anyone who ROWS is a virtuous person in my book, drink or no drink - that's rows as in boats, not as in "with husband". Though I guess you could row in a boat with your husband. With oars <ties self in knots>

<makes Jeffers a nice cup of tea>

ArielTheBahHumbugMermaid Sat 22-Dec-12 11:11:26

We have more Floods. Tis the Age of Aquarius after all.

Northey Sat 22-Dec-12 11:15:54

I must leave the house or I will sit and eat all day. Fat or drowned. What a quandrary.

ArielTheBahHumbugMermaid Sat 22-Dec-12 11:18:22

Just a small point: I'm not usually militant about this, but I object to a bunch of infertile women being addressed as "girlies". I know I'm only being picky, but....

Northey Sat 22-Dec-12 11:19:08

Yes. That jarred with me as well.

JustplainoldBuggerlugs Sat 22-Dec-12 11:47:14

Which fred is this you speak of? Please provide a link and I shall go and have a nosy.

Managed a good shag at 6am this morning in true wench style. Also managed a dog walk and got thoroughly piss wet through. Am now drying off contemplating what to eat next.

ArielTheBahHumbugMermaid Sat 22-Dec-12 11:50:51

6am? <impressed>

My mother is now ordering us not to come to theirs for Christmas because of the rain after making a massive fuss about us being there.

EuroShagmore Sat 22-Dec-12 12:18:08

drizz I'm with you on your approach. I've tried uber clean living. It makes me miserable. And not diffed, obv.

I would have gone for a run this morning, but my acu lady told me not to. I'm to eat lots, avoid exercise, stop trying to lose weight and try to get my energy levels up. I luffs her.

I have the house to myself this weekend. I loved loved loved living alone and still find sharing a house a bit crowding, although KFZK is lovely. The only problem is last night a GIANT SPIDER ran across the living room. shock My friend who was over is fine with them and volunteered to deal, so with the words "just don't let the fucker get away" I retreated. She let the fucker get away <considers sacking her from her role as bff>. I only managed to sleep last night by staying up super late so I dropped straight off. I know it is going to reappear later. Probably on my head. I am not good with spiders but they seem to treat me like a magnet.

I have a dlliemma later. I've been invited to a friend's for dinner. This is probably the only time to get them their presents before Xmas. But friend has been off work all week with a stinking cold. I would really not like that for Xmas. Hmmmm.

lovesLemonDrizzleCake Sat 22-Dec-12 12:39:36

Elsewhere norfy and it was misty but not raining when we were on the water. Sadly it is raining now and I need to go food shopping as we have lots of dinner-guests this weekend. I have two fresh blisters, as I have recently restarted rowing, and have very victorian gentlemen-like hands nowadays. Also aries I have been known to row with SB in a boat as well as outside one.

I'd say treat yourself to a dvd-box and relaxing evening euro. I still love my evenings home alone smile

lovesLemonDrizzleCake Sat 22-Dec-12 12:41:38

Although there is the spider. I was quite entertained by the near sacking of the bff!

RockinaroundtheTippletree Sat 22-Dec-12 13:30:00

Sorry for the silence gents, I have been busy celebrating the end of the term and my 30th birthday. I am officially official on the BESH front and we didn't die from an Apocalypse either. I was mightily relieved come 11.30 am!

Euro - you need to take action against the spider - it doesn't pay rent. Be a man and remove it! Failure on BFF front is definitely a sackable offense.

Rie is that a good outcome? Bit forward thinking of your mum though - the rain might be gone by Monday, it's only Saturday!

Ummm, I have an AIBU query, well, I sort of feel I should feel a bit guilty but not really sure - here goes:
Mum had a little family party for me last night for my birthday. We invited DH's parents and they were coming along with his brother and sister. We also invited my aunty and uncle and my mums best friend who came with her daughter who I grew up with and her two gorgeous children. So, Thursday evening DH gets a message from his sister saying nothing more than 'not coming tomorrow, i have to be up at 5 am for work'. DH read that as his sister not coming but just before we left for mums last night DH rang to see if all was ok with the floods and his mum said oh we aren't coming, messaged you (on FB). So, because they didn't come and I've organised to see various family of mine at different points between now and Christmas DH wont get to see them until after boxing day. DH is disappointed but also a little bit annoyed with his mum. I sort of feel like i should cancel something with my family so he can see his but really there was no reason for them not to come last night, they just sit on their arse all day mostly. But then I think they can't be that arsed or they would have come over? I don't know. What do you think? We only have one car and they live nearly 30 miles away so it's not a simple nip out and see them then go to other stuff...... pain in the arse!

WinklyVersusTheZombies Sat 22-Dec-12 15:49:17

I wouldn't bother rearranging your plans to.see them if they couldn't be arsed coming to see you.

'lo everyone, how's it going?

ArielTheBahHumbugMermaid Sat 22-Dec-12 16:17:38

I'm going to have Droid Arrival on Christmas Eve by the looks if it. How is that even remotely fair?

Northey Sat 22-Dec-12 16:21:11

A lovely Christmas gift from your womble to you, aries.

I am expecting mine over the festive period too. Probably all over MIL's sheets sad

FrankelcenseAndMyhrr Sat 22-Dec-12 17:14:22

God rest you merry gentlemen, etc.

I am extremely fatigued this damp and drizzly evening.

We visited my BFF and her 7 week old this morning. She's been very lucky - he sleeps from 11pm till 7am, but she's still knackered as all his snuffly little noises keep waking her up. She's barely left the house since he was born & I have told her she needs to call me and we can go out for a coffee or something, just so she can get some fresh air.

My darling parents have arrived for Christmas - 4 nights <faints> This could either go very well, or very badly! So excuse me if I'm not about much over the next few days.

<leaves gin and mince pies>

WinklyVersusTheZombies Sat 22-Dec-12 20:41:28

If I am talking to a friend who got diffed germ first month trying, and saying that in the new year I am dropping all alcohol and caffeine, and cutting right down on my meat intake, because I am trying the Zita West approach to my fertility ishoos, is it (a) helpful and supportive or (b) very fucking unhelpful for her to comment 'oh I was on holiday eating steaks and drinking red wine when I got pregnant?

And then of course change the subject, because it's too fucking hard for her to be sympathetic for one minute, but so god damn easy for me to be happy for her All The Bloody Time.

WinklyVersusTheZombies Sat 22-Dec-12 20:43:48

Oh my droid is due just after I come back from visiting my family for Christmas, so I will be sad about that, dreading going back to pissing work and I get that kick in the womble. Sympathy and gin all round.

ArielTheBahHumbugMermaid Sat 22-Dec-12 21:10:07

Winkly how incredibly insensitive.

FrankelcenseAndMyhrr Sat 22-Dec-12 22:07:13

Nice "friend" Winks, what a cow. Next time, if you choose to see her again, you must say "did you mean to be so rude/insensitive?"

I think my friend knows I'm still struggling (had a small cry this afternoon), she hugged me like she'd never let go when we left her house this morning. I luffs her.

lovesLemonDrizzleCake Sun 23-Dec-12 10:08:42

That friend is a rat, winkly. Fact.

Good lucky with droidal christmases, parental invastions and all the rest of it. SB and I are being antisocial and I am loving it. Although we do have a diffed friend and husband over for tea. But it is diffage after MC a few months before me, so we have chatted and cried about all that shit together. So I think I can actually be happy for her. Let's see how it goes when she is here, belly and all...

I am too menkulling for a victorian gentlemen. My buzzwams are killing me. And it is bloody 7dpiui, SB commented so that lodged all sort of Thoughts in my Head. (Even though when diffed I had NO symptoms, so I don't know why I still spot them.)

SinkyMalinks Sun 23-Dec-12 12:44:13

winks, I think we might have the same friend.

I am also menkulling, for no good reason. The best I can offer if nausea and the hope of an ironi-dif pre injections.

FrankelcenseAndMyhrr Sun 23-Dec-12 16:47:18

Just stopping by to say I think I might have finally ov'd, it's only taken until CD46. Temp bumped by 0.3 of a degree this morning, so we'll see over the next day or two if it stays up. We've done the sechs every other day for the last 10 days, so if that doesn't get me diffed I don't know what more we can do!

Happy Christmas Eve Eve all grin

ArielTheBahHumbugMermaid Sun 23-Dec-12 16:53:19

<awards Frank shiny Good Sechsing badge>

Northey Sun 23-Dec-12 17:02:09

My, aries, how did you get it so shiny?

ArielTheBahHumbugMermaid Sun 23-Dec-12 17:03:20

I buffed it with my egg white <revolting>

Northey Sun 23-Dec-12 17:12:43


I think I might be working up to some sort of moistness myself.

SinkyMalinks Sun 23-Dec-12 17:12:44


SinkyMalinks Sun 23-Dec-12 17:13:50

I am ment to be driving to the parentals (alone- don't ask). But haven't yet packed or wrapped any presents. And am sat on sofa.

Bah. Humbug.

ArielTheBahHumbugMermaid Sun 23-Dec-12 17:21:00

Actually the egg white quip was in no way illustrative of what's going on here. Rivers. Of. Gore. But at least that means it's out of the way for the big day <bright side>

Northey Sun 23-Dec-12 17:44:04

I am imbibing a fine claret, gentlemen. Oh ok, a cheapy old thing.

My follow up letter from the ivf clinic came yesterday, sending me into a bit of a demoralised gloom. I think I still have stupidly high expectations of every contact from a medical professional, so when a letter is basically just a "we met; I took your history, which is this; you're going to come in again for signing stuff; oh, and get your hep b antibody test repeated as the result is missing" sort of thing I end up feeling absurdly deflated.

JustplainoldBuggerlugs Sun 23-Dec-12 18:06:33

Evening Sirs - Just popping on to say I probably won't get chance to post much for the next few days or so whats new though hey so have a very merry Christmas and a super start of 2013.

<leaves sprinkle of baby dust just to cause a commotion>

Northey Sun 23-Dec-12 18:12:45

<drops monocle in horror>

JethroTull Sun 23-Dec-12 18:20:59

<comes over all faint at the mere mention of b**y d**t>

Northey I spent 2 long years being deflated every time we had An Appointment. It sucks <rummages for Christmas Cod>.

In synch with OurRie the droid is here! I've never been so excited. Next step Dildocam to confirm my own pathetic hormones have disappeared & then The Stimming Commences <fanfare>.

Sinky I am Not Asking about the lone journey but are you ok?

SinkyMalinks Sun 23-Dec-12 18:21:13

<tipped over edge into full on retching>

That mrbugs. What a cad.

Norf, I signed all my ivf consents etc on thurs. Seems a bit crazy, given the earliest I will possibly start is may. But hey ho. Nothing every seems to run in a predictable way.

Have been partaking of off work/hotel away (on Friday night)/holiday seching. Which is good. Am cd28. My body has 3 weeks to muster some sort of droidal activity, and then it's back on the progesterone and then the injections.


SinkyMalinks Sun 23-Dec-12 18:28:17

Jeff fear not, I'm fine (Xmas grouch, but that's normal)

My family are local-ish to us. (about 45 min away). Ghj's family are 4 hours away. The past 4 years one of us has worked Xmas day at some point, so we've always gone to my parents, and then to his around new year if possible.

This year we got a bit of grief off his parents so said we would go to theirs. And then they booked a cruise from dec to end of jan!

Ghj's still going up to see friends and his cousin. I've met his cousin a few times, and while is nice, I would really rather be with my family if his mum and dad aren't about. (and cousin has a 6month old. And likes to question me)

So I'm going to mine, he's going to his parents empty house and doing a bt of a tour. This is all a bit controversial.

I have half wrapped the presents. But don't have any gift tags. And I've realised I have nothing for my brother. And the presents are all abit shit.

Feck it. Xmas is all about the food any way.

ArielTheBahHumbugMermaid Sun 23-Dec-12 18:45:02

Christmas, as my dear SIL put it as an excuse for not getting me a present, is all about children hmm

Feck that. Exactly!

Re: gift tags, cut up some old Crimbo cards. Or even some of this year's. I too have nothing for my brother. Well, the bastard never gets me anything....

Stay safe BESHes. If you are driving be v careful <offhand concern>

Northey Sun 23-Dec-12 18:46:24

All my presents are A Bit Shit too, sinks. Apart from the ones I bought for AMNH to give to my parents, into which I put a huge amount of thought. Still, as long as it cements his position as favourite son in law (ha! take that, irritating sister and awful BIL!) it'll be worth it. Because I iz mature like that.

Northey Sun 23-Dec-12 18:47:57

rierie, are you ok in all the floods and stuff? I have been worrying about you whilst reading news reports. And also secretly gulping at stories of firemen rescuing cats.

ArielTheBahHumbugMermaid Sun 23-Dec-12 19:07:20

Ah, I'm touched blush. Yes, we are fine thanks. We live on a hill and the water just rushes past down to the poor buggers at the bottom.

ArielTheBahHumbugMermaid Sun 23-Dec-12 19:31:22

WIBU to say something acidic on this thread such as, "do some research". And "it might take ages". And "but you'll probably get pregnant first month trying" and "drink all you want - it won't make any difference."

SinkyMalinks Sun 23-Dec-12 19:47:01

Urgh. And I know some of you have seen the thread in aibu- I has to stop reading when the usual "children are a gift, not a right" loon appeared.

Must pack.

Northey Sun 23-Dec-12 19:59:25

My lip is curling sardonically. But I mustn't crush her innocent optimism.

bluer Sun 23-Dec-12 20:06:20

Hey up...also popping in to wish everyone a splendid Christmas with peace and goodwill to all besh gentlemen.
We're off travelling as of the Morrow...two and a bit hours to my dads...then on xmas day a six hour drive to Englandshire for a week with in laws. We'll probably arrive around ten at night but will get xmas dinner number two on boxing day! <rubs leg in anticipation of gout>

OComeAllYeFaithBaby Sun 23-Dec-12 20:59:04

Evening fellow gentlefolk!

I am tempted to go on that fred and say FFS don't start TTC at Christmas. As each one rolls round you will become more and more depressed! like this sad But then not everyone experiences the barreness. She will have a nightmare time TTC if she is a control freak and already trying the ov sticks!

Anyhoo, I am off work now for Christmas with the exception of working Christmas night but I'm kind of not counting that!

travel well my friends, may the roads be kind to you grin Happy sechsing to all.

evilgiraffe Mon 24-Dec-12 00:18:32

Hmm, weird. Droid, having tailed almost completely away, has reared it's ugly head once more. Grr. It can sodding well go away, I don't want >10 day droids AGAIN. Today is day nine...

Also, HOTB and I have arrived at my parents' house. It is so much more relaxed than the ILs, even though they are not that stressy really. HOTB told ILs about all the infertility woes this morning, I guess we/I should tell mine before we go home too... Not sure I can do it, I have bottled it every time so far.

Northey Mon 24-Dec-12 05:16:43

<sends draf's droid up a chimney>

I can't tell my parents either. Somehow I find it less personal having the ILs know (they have been lovely about it).

Lying awake listening to the rain.

EuroShagmore Mon 24-Dec-12 08:29:40

Morning BESHes.

I'm up early (well, early for a day off) as we are about to go and tackle Waitrose. I'm hoping the emphasis won't be on the wait today. Once that is done I plan to mostly be sitting on my arris for the day. smile

JustplainoldBuggerlugs Mon 24-Dec-12 09:40:51

Sirs I have returned to say I AM TRULY FUCKED OFF.

God? He can fuck off too. Fucking cunting Mary had a baybee and DIDN'T EVEN HAVE SEX.

I STILL haven't ovulated, and they don't think I will. I will be spending my Xmas 2 weeks off backwards and forwards to the hospital. I am so fed up.

Northey Mon 24-Dec-12 09:51:53

On Clomid you haven't ovulated?? But you ovulated normally before, didn't you? What on earth is going on?!

FrankelcenseAndMyhrr Mon 24-Dec-12 09:59:52

I failed to ovulate properly on Clomid in two cycles, ended up around Day 40-something.

Temperature fell back 0.1 of a degree this morning, so tomorrow will either confirm or deny ov. However, I feel rather pukey this morning <menkul, menkul, menkul> Coz of course you get symptoms within 48 hours hmm

JustplainoldBuggerlugs Mon 24-Dec-12 11:14:58

Yep North apparently I did. Well i got pregnant twice so i must have ovulated at least twice.

I've just read on another fred that a follicle is healthy up to 30mm. Phew.

lovesLemonDrizzleCake Mon 24-Dec-12 11:52:45

Morning gentlefolk!

So sorry about 9 day droids shock and telling the ILs draf, SB told his parents without me (and vice versa). I had a cry on my mum re: the distinct lack of bump (and I should have been over 20weeks, and I feel sorry for myself) as the mc misery came back with a vengeance for Christmas. So I cannot be boffered to write on theme.

Well done for being off work, nearly faif! And good luck with waitrose euro. I just did the bakers and butcher's this morning (on my way back from a run <proud> and the mood was festive but the pace was SLOW.

Fucking clomid bugs. Hope you lay soon (and otherwise there is always the fabulous trigger shot=hcg, which has made me farty all weerk).

Good symptom spotting frank, fingers crossed for confirmed ovulation. I convinced myself I had womble aches. But they disappeared when I produced a rather rocklike turd...

On that rather unvictorian note. We're not going anywhere, so I shall be back in the next few days, perhaps less grumpy!

JustplainoldBuggerlugs Mon 24-Dec-12 12:21:13

They haven't mentioned a 'trigger shot' Driz - just a progesterone tests. I need to chill the chuff out and remind myself that I have several cycles to get this right. They did previously say they may double the dose. I'm just annoyed i'm not drinking and it feels a bit pointless atm.

<eyes up mulled wine>

EuroShagmore Mon 24-Dec-12 14:49:43

Bugs this time last year I was doing my first Letrozole cycle. I usually ovulate on day 14 on the right side, day 16 on the left, without drugs. I was scanned on day 12 (just before Xmas) and there was nothing doing - just a bunch of small follies. I should have been scanned again but the clinic was closed between Xmas and NY so I just kept temping. I spent a very tense Christmas, sure that these stupid drugs had fucked everything up. I eventually oved on day 20. After that they upped the dose and I oved on CD12/13. So it's probably just that they have not got the dose right for you. Try not to panic (like I did, pointlessly!).

I say go for the mulled wine. Think of how many drunken Xmas babies will be made over the next couple of weeks.

Watirose wasn't too bad. No busier than a normal Saturday! However they had run out of mince pies - at 11.30am on Xmas Eve!!! The shelves were bare. I hope there were more in the storeroom and it was just a shelf stacking issue otherwise there are going to be lots of pissed off bankers at Canary Wharf.. I had to swing by a petrol station with a supermarket attached on the way back to get some. BAD watirose.

RockinaroundtheTippletree Mon 24-Dec-12 19:34:47

Just found out my skanky 22 yr old homeless single cousin is pregnant. Fuck.

FaLaLaLaLauraPalmer Mon 24-Dec-12 20:00:04

<sneaks in carrying individually wrapped in brown-paper-and-string bottles of gin>

<brushes snow from velvet collared coat>

<doffs hat>

Ahem, laydees gentlemens. I have arrived bearing many wishes of a Merry Christmas and a fruitful new year.

I luffs you all and have given Santa a very stern talking to regarding some much delayed BFPs. He had better get his shit together. Or else.

<kisses all the stabbing spots and hand-feeds everyone homemade mince pies>

FrankelcenseAndMyhrr Mon 24-Dec-12 20:12:43

<ties LP to a chair>

How are you deary, I mean dear sir?

<scoffs mince pies and refills wine glass>

SinkyMalinks Mon 24-Dec-12 23:43:41

Aw, Tipps. That's just fucking shit.

Just back from pub. Several women noticeably on the softies or non alcoholic beer. And not driving. Nothing said though, so, Shall Ignore. Won't see most of them till next Christmas anyway, at which point I'll be preggers or avec child. Obviously.

A bit melancholy tonight. 4th yrs of "next year I'll..."

<leans on LP's shoulder in a manful, yet going nowhere style, and swigs surreptitiously from bag-o-gin>

Northey Mon 24-Dec-12 23:55:01

FFS tipps, it should not be allowed! As Victorian gentlemen do we not rule the world? How have skanky cousins slipped through our social and economic stranglehold?

At PILS now. MIL took me aside and said in hushed tones that she understood if I wasn't drinking much. She is kind and lovely and I am frankly marrying AMNH partly to tie her down as my mother in law, but for some reason that really jarred with me. I don't want people's understanding! Especially if they then spend half the evening reminiscing about the hour immediately after they'd given birth to BIL and how they couldn't stop laughing.

<fumes> <yearns> <sobs>

SinkyMalinks Tue 25-Dec-12 00:02:45

<manful pats on shoulders all round>

Merry Yuletide dear BESH.

May the coming year bring us fortune untold

<clips passing urchin round ear for good measure>

<sheds vicoriana and sobs quietly about the unfairness of it all>

FrankelcenseAndMyhrr Tue 25-Dec-12 00:07:54

Chin up Sinks, it is sucky but we'll get through it together.

<passes Norf a fortifying gin and ear plugs>

Merry Christmas ya bunch of hags grin

SinkyMalinks Tue 25-Dec-12 00:27:24

Fanks. I blame wine and families.

This does not bode well for the next 48hrs wink

evilgiraffe Tue 25-Dec-12 00:37:52

Merry Christmas and condolences all round.

Droid still here at day ten - my shortest droid in the last six months has been nine days (longest was sixteen) which is, quite frankly, taking the piss. Fortunately HOTB is not squeamish so sechsing still happening smile

Just gone to bed after laughing ourselves silly watching Full
Metal Jousting, now listening to the rain hammering at the window - my parents' spare room faces out into the prevailing wind so it sounds Quite Exciting. Mince pies and mulled wine tomorrow, hurrah!

(disclaimer for disjointed post: I may have overindulged on wine tonight)

Northey Tue 25-Dec-12 06:17:31

Felicitous wishes in this most joyous season of Yule!, my dear friends.

I hope droid fucks off today, festivegiraffe, along with any hangover which might be meanly loitering.

sinky, loving strokes with the Cod of Comfort and big manly swats with the Bream of Bucking Up. I also can't bear that we are at another Christmas in this game. And if anyone else posts a photo of their child dressed as a shepherd or wise man or whatever, I will, well, umm, well nothing much really. But grrr.

JethroTull Tue 25-Dec-12 08:27:45

Happy Christmas Hags! Hope you all have lovely days.

SinkyMalinks Tue 25-Dec-12 08:36:56

Merry Christmas!

<tucks bream of bucking up into sparkly Xmas number>

<adds headband antlers>

OComeAllYeFaithBaby Tue 25-Dec-12 08:42:24

Merry Christmas Hags! Hope it's a good day. I've told Father Christmas to bring you all BFPs in the next couple of months smile

JustplainoldBuggerlugs Tue 25-Dec-12 09:10:54

Merry Christmas one and all.

Last night a woman I know came and patted my tummy and asked if I was pregnant. I had a beer in my hand and said no. She carried on rubbing and asked if I was sure!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh how I resisted the urge to hit her.

lovesLemonDrizzleCake Tue 25-Dec-12 09:16:40

Merry Christmas Hags!

Christmas cods of comfort to tippy. I am sorry and shocked. Combined with alcohol and too much family things might become ugly... Which norf's lovely MIL shows. Generally great, shockingly crap sometimes... Sorry about that too! As about endless droids, draff that is shit!

Impressed at braving waitrose and shock at no more mincepies euro! Fanks for the gin faify I can use it! And tell us how you and the lovely LP are!!

We are having out anti-social christmas and it's lovely. Although I was counting on seeing the nephews on boxing day and that seems to have been delayed til the 27th. Oh well. Maybe I'll go down the parental home to catch enough small people for this christmas.
I am menkulling still. And for us it's the third Christmas of thinking and hoping maybe next year. Although it is a seriously tinged with "I should have been past 20 weeks by now as well..." sad

lovesLemonDrizzleCake Tue 25-Dec-12 09:17:11

OMG that woman bugs. So rude. So unacceptable. GRRR!

EuroShagmore Tue 25-Dec-12 09:22:40

Merry Christmas one and all!

I had a night disturbed by the hammering rain and thunder and lightening (why isn't it called lightening and thunder as you always see it before you hear it? Can you tell I have been awake pondering such things for half the night?). I am now inflicting Now That's What I Call Christmas on everyone. The Fairytale of New York will be played on repeat shortly.

At least there is little chance that our Christmas guests (my parents) will announce a surprise pregnancy....

shock at the 22 yr cousin, tipps and stomach rubbing Bugs.

SinkyMalinks Tue 25-Dec-12 09:52:24

In the midst of Xmas related horrors (belly stroking? <whisper> undeserved diffment?) I snorted at the thought of family Euros surprise announcement. Now, that would require all the cod, bream and sturgeon in the ocean.

So, chaps, the Yule logs are burning low. Allow me to improve our situation by means of an assortment of flammable seasonal bunting and tinsel. <basks in flair of heat before fire collapses and goes out entirely>

WinklyVersusTheZombies Tue 25-Dec-12 10:46:24

Festive greetings good fellows!

Sore boobs heartburn menkul menkul, but on this Yuletide morn I shall the remarkable patience and stoicism displayed by my 7yr old nephew, who barely flinched when 21month old nephew smacked him in the face with Thomas The Tank Engine.

ArielTheBahHumbugMermaid Tue 25-Dec-12 11:26:59

Merry Christmas luffly BESH xxxx

RockinaroundtheTippletree Tue 25-Dec-12 11:29:04

22 yr old cousin apparently isn't the worst of it. Mum said that 27 yr old cousin is also pg with her 4th! Ridiculous. It also pisses me off that her eldest is heavily asthmatic and she smokes all over her, they live in a council house and live off benefits.

Merry Yule tide gents, me & mum are trying to cook with Gordon, it's funny watching him try not to swear.

Shocked at the belly rub - that is incredibly rude, a punch should have been administered I feel.

Sorry for all the long droids and other shitness. I've ovulated this morning but at the parents so no shagginh. Did a quick one yesterday but was nightly disappointed as there tmi didn't seem to be much jizz??!! Think it's the booze MATV has been drinking but he looked really hurt when I mentioned it. Then I cried this morning but am feeling mucho chirpier now!

Northey Tue 25-Dec-12 11:51:37

Hahahahaha! Did a quick one yesterday but was nightly disappointed as there tmi didn't seem to be much jizz??!! Think it's the booze MATV has been drinking but he looked really hurt when I mentioned it. made me actually cry with laughter, tip.

bugs, I have no idea why you didn't just swat her into next week. No jury would have convicted you. Oh my God, this can be euro's new speciality - defending mental BESH who are driven to violence by awful other people!

jeffy, are you having a festive stab today?

RockinaroundtheTippletree Tue 25-Dec-12 12:02:47

smile he does have the 'you've just offended my manhood a treat' puppy dog/sad eyes hurt look down to a tee now grin

SinkyMalinks Tue 25-Dec-12 12:30:08

Arf! Xmas fun in the BESH household!

Am 2 glasses of champagne down. I bought my dad rubarb liquor, my mum blackberry and port and i got apple gin. I plan to stop when I can't see.

Northey Tue 25-Dec-12 12:34:16

Fuck IVF! I am going to drink my way merrily through this.

SinkyMalinks Tue 25-Dec-12 12:46:15



(I've briefly departed to red wine)

RockinaroundtheTippletree Tue 25-Dec-12 12:54:43

Urgh, non drinking friend of my dads has called over for a coffee. Drinking has ceased and dinner is now delayed. God bloody damn it I'm STARVING! I just washed up to take my mind off it and munched some of the starters!

SinkyMalinks Tue 25-Dec-12 12:56:48

Not drinking? At Christmas? shock

I shall, altruistically, have a glass for you.


evilgiraffe Tue 25-Dec-12 14:36:35

Merry Christmas all! I have been given TWO full-size bottles of gin, and one small one grin

Northey Tue 25-Dec-12 19:56:35

My merry Christmas drinking has inevitably led to an evening slump. I have had enough of jollity with ILs and now just want to go off somewhere quiet and mourn the fact that I should either now have with me the baybee from the first ectopic or a five month bump from the second. Meh.

FrankelcenseAndMyhrr Tue 25-Dec-12 20:04:03

I have eaten my body weight in roast potatoes. If anyone looked at my belly right now they'd think I was 5 or 6 months gone hmm

I've also drunk a decent amount and am about to crack open another bottle of wine

In other news Futility Fiend says yes to ov on Saturday. We had some very nice, no pressure (ah those were the days!) Christmas sechs this morning, so here's hoping the 4 times over the last 6 days is enough. Surely more wine can only help, right? wink

Northey Tue 25-Dec-12 20:22:21

Wine is clinically proven to help, frank. I had Christmas Eve sechs yesterday, but am decidedly too full of food to do anything of the same sort today. Well, not unless AMNH has developed a fetish for being vomited on...

EuroShagmore Tue 25-Dec-12 22:29:27

frankel please tell me he didn't wear the jumper in his facebook photo to seduce you into that?

I have eaten far too much, and had a lovely quiet day with my Rents. I have drunken very little though. I must remedy that!

I'd quite like to develop a sideline defending BESH pushed over the edge. I could have my own TV ad: "Have you been pushed over the edge by undeserving instadiffs? Then call 0800 100 EURO now!". I can see it all over daytime TV.

WinklyVersusTheZombies Tue 25-Dec-12 22:44:43

I love the Christmas jumper! I am a little jealous of all the sechsing, I am back in the motherland and have left HWCA back home so none for me.

Only had one pregnant cousin, one newborn cousin and the Nativity homily extolling the virtues of family to contend with.

Oddly, I've only had a small glass of wine. Heartburn killing me and putting me right off.

WinklyVersusTheZombies Wed 26-Dec-12 14:23:19

Wow, completely killed fred

<wanders off eating mince pie>

SinkyMalinks Wed 26-Dec-12 14:33:05

Just popping in. (mainly to reassure winkly that thread is not dead).

Been for hearty morning walk. Just gorged myself again on leftovers and salmon and, again, 2 glasses of wine down.

Hope the BESH are keeping body and soul together.

OComeAllYeFaithBaby Wed 26-Dec-12 14:46:20

I have just woken up after a rubbish night shift! MSB's dad and nan are now visiting so I'll be quiet but be reassured I will be partaking in a gin tonight! Luff you BESHies!

I too liked the Christmas jumper! grin

RockinaroundtheTippletree Wed 26-Dec-12 18:04:25

home this morning from the parents for us. I think next year we will drive there christmas morning then home the same day rather than stay the two nights. nearly 5 hrs of soaps nearly killed MATV and me off. From 5.30pm my mum was hooked and unable to speak. Never known such utter shite on TV in one day! Also had two comments off mum during the day 'once a baby comes along' type things. Second time I just said 'look, I'm not pregnant now and I may never be (she knows about my barreness...) so lets just have these conversations if it happens in the future. To which she responded 'positive thinking love, come on!'. angry

just about to hit the wine again. Anyone care to join me?

SinkyMalinks Wed 26-Dec-12 18:39:01

I'm still in holiday mode so am on the wine and have been since lunch

Just back from seeing my lovely friend and her lovely kids. Even if I did get bitten by a toothing 9 month old.

FrankelcenseAndMyhrr Wed 26-Dec-12 22:12:29

I'm back on the wine too grin

So, what did y'all get for Chrimbo? HWHNN got me a beautiful charm bracelet and a print of Frankel grin. I got him the Season 1-7 box set of Supernatural and some Bose headphones that he'd been talking about.

evilgiraffe Thu 27-Dec-12 00:44:43

Hello all smile I've had a fab day ponyriding and eating and socialising, now in bed at last.

I received many lovely gifts, including the aforesaid two bottles of gin, several books and films, a woolly cardigan with chunky buttons, and a respectable amount of chocolate. My family have been very generous and good at choosing lovely things this year! My ILs are completely bats as well as lovely, and gave me a pair of motorised cat ears...

Christmas sechsing going well - being on holiday is good for HOTB I think. Droid might have finally gone too - hopefully tomorrow will be spotting-free! We set off back to ILs tomorrow, so had better confess the infertility to my parents in the morning, seeing as ILs know now. More ponyriding may help me build up courage? <doubtful>

Northey Thu 27-Dec-12 07:38:53

Sounds good, iwilleatalltheleavesonthetree. Then you can gallop away fast if telling them is too traumatic.

Spent last night in a soggy flood of tears, partly kicked off by an argument with FIL which wasn't in itself particularly bad, but somehow left me randomly wobbly, but made worse by bloody carols, all about newborn babes being wrapped in swaddling bands and placed in mangers.

Had three random days of spotting, so tempted myself with the possibility that it might be implantation bleeding (I know, I know, and I've only had sex twice this cycle anyway (CD6 and CD22, fact fans)). BFN this morning, obviously. Which means droid is prob on its way and will hit with a vengeance halfway through my flight to Dublin just as the fasten seatbelt sign comes on.

RockinaroundtheTippletree Thu 27-Dec-12 09:58:26

Northey that sucks, what was the argument about? Is horrible falling out with family in law but sometimes it needs to be done.

I had a few tears last night too having spent some time on 'be my parent' I asked MATV about adoption. We got half way through the quite positive conversation and he just went 'well, there's no ways they would ever let us adopt' I said why not and he replied 'because social workers are cunts, we'd never be allowed'. I just really don't get that response. I burst into tears and ran out. I don't think MATV even noticed. Will ask him about it tonight. Weird though

lovesLemonDrizzleCake Thu 27-Dec-12 10:17:11

Morning hags!

Thank fuck that is over! I am working. Much to be preferred over Christmas. Right. We decided to boycot Christmas, which was emotionally a lot more challenging than I had realised. I seem to have a day off (read floods of tears and unreasonably grumpy) and a day on (baking, eating, chatting etc). Sadly SB seems to have my good days off. So real bahhumbug in the lemon-household. It was all brought on by the inevitable babies, family centredness etc of Christmas, add into that two diffed friends (on either side of what would have been due date) and you have the recipe for misery.

At least for NYE we have a friend (and droid) visiting... JOY.

shock at MATV's response that is weird! Any follow up conversation possible?

Sorry about the BFN and the wobbling norf. ILs can be so difficult, can't they?

Christmas sechsing is going badly here, so I am mightily impressed with draff. We've had quick shags followed by grumpy days on just two mornings. I have completely lost my horn, is that a) because I am miserable or b) because I am diffed...

For presents we got some dvds, books, chocolate and (vouchers for) a whole load of yarn, which makes me quite happy, after all smile Frank very impressed with HWHNN gift buying.

Grumpy waves to you all!

Northey Thu 27-Dec-12 10:56:09

How weird of MATV! Ask him about it later and find out what he is thinking when he says it?

Argument was a silly academicky one - I think we are both quite similar in that we don't let things go when we think we are right/the other person hasn't understood/whatever. Normally I wouldn't really care - I am good at being detached from arguments, but somehow I felt very shaken about an hour afterwards. I think it's just everything all at once. Including worrying about upcoming consent consultation.

lem, I sympathise so much with the uppy downy thing. For half a day I am fine and sociable and making a nice contribution to things, and then I am off balance and tetchy and needy and bumptious.

lovesLemonDrizzleCake Thu 27-Dec-12 11:00:59

Thanks for the recognition norf. It hopefully means it is normal, and will pass. At some stage. Hopefully. I reckon the shakiness with the argument with FIL might be related to that too. When I have my off-day I don't have my usual ability to ignore those sorts of things...

Are you on your flight yet?

Northey Thu 27-Dec-12 11:05:38

We will both get through it eventually. Hopefully soon, as I am quite bored of being such a head case.

Flight is tomorrow. More brown gunk today so prob droid will hit then. FFS. And clinic wants a new CD2-5 hormone blood test - if droid hits tomorrow and I am spending three days away, getting it sorted will be quite challenging, I suspect.

lovesLemonDrizzleCake Thu 27-Dec-12 11:09:37

Aha, handy of droid to make the last hormone tests a little more of a challenge, NYE away though (if I can count), sounds lovely!

It will pass. It is just unfortunate that I thought it had passed already, and then Christmas bit me in the tail quite badly.

Northey Thu 27-Dec-12 11:22:53

Exactly how I feel too! I had even been quietly proud and self-congratulatory at being successfully normal again. Bah.

lovesLemonDrizzleCake Thu 27-Dec-12 11:40:41

Me too. And then I felt like a failed Victorian gentleman. Quite convincingly. Mental note to self, more biting to be expected near due date Oh well, at least I've done some work. Unlike SB, who much obligingly went to buy hoover bags and batteries, and is now reading one of his Crimbo-books on the couch. It's good he left the house, I guess!

RockinaroundtheTippletree Thu 27-Dec-12 18:12:23

Pfft, I started a thread on chat and got ignored ....... I've made a prawn curry from frozen prawns. If it goes in the fridge overnight can I reheat and finish tomorrow??!!!

EuroShagmore Thu 27-Dec-12 18:12:36

Draf, I am somewhere between hmm and grin at the ears!

norfy sorry for the tears. I was finding it all a bit much today too. We went into the children's dept at John Lewis to pick up something for KFZK's niece and I had a "gulp" moment when I had to walk past the nursery furniture to get there.

Tipp that's an odd reaction. Do you think he had a run in with SS in a past life or something?

JustplainoldBuggerlugs Thu 27-Dec-12 19:01:44

So then, how fat is everyone feeling after a good Christmas stuffing?

I'm so bloated, ironically I look pregnant.

I ovulated xmas day btw according to my scan today. We did the sechs too so fingers crossed and all that.

<passes round Cadbury Chocolate fingers since I got MILLIONS of them from Santa>

OComeAllYeFaithBaby Thu 27-Dec-12 19:04:46

tipps probably ok as long as you blast it!

Fingers crossed bugs.

Sorry Christmas has been rough for so many of you. Bring on 2013!

Northey Thu 27-Dec-12 19:14:07

Massively fat, bugsy. Twin baybees fat. Hideous. And in three days I have to wear a slinky evening dress. Do you think with some really am creative accessorising I could get away with wearing my fleecy pyjamas instead?

WinklyVersusTheZombies Thu 27-Dec-12 19:32:59

bugs am fat as all hell. Had cream and cake last night and stomach swelled up in delightful post-gall bladder-removal fashion. Super painful and I looked six months gone. Back down now so just old fashioned fat. Zita West healthy lifestyle starts new years day.

RockinaroundtheTippletree Thu 27-Dec-12 21:31:33

Massively fat here and also looking pregnant too.

Just had a message from a girl I speak to on another forum who had her ET last week, tested this morning and was positive grin so pleased for her as been trying for over 6 years and been messed around by funding people which meant her IVF ended up about a year later than needed to be.

Hope droid doesn't appear for plane journey Norf, bastard thing always wait until the most inappropriate time doesn't it.

Think I ov'd Xmas day too bugs judging by pant snot but no secshing took place due to parents being in too close proximity so reckon I'm out this month as only one jump on 24th. I'm all geared up for IVF referral now though anyway so I don't care.

wink ill be with you on the diet front. I can usually see my hip bones when I lie down but at the mo they are covered in a little layer of squishyness. Not good. So.....1s Jan it's on!

I'm still no further with MATVs comment but he stands by what he said, that social workers are arseholes who only do what they do to keep themselves in a job. There's something else there and I have an inkling as to what it is. If it is what I think it is I'm most definitely not going to push it.

InTheBleakMidwynter Fri 28-Dec-12 13:21:59

No sechsing for us over Xmas as I've had bastard spotting for the last week (aargh). Not that I feel like it now we're at the in-laws anyway.

My GHDs have just died on me as well so I've spent money replacing those, I feel the size of a house and I'm now unemployed (admittedly my own choice, but still).

Fucking marvellous. 2013 had better not suck as much as the end of 2012, I can tell you.

Hope the rest of you hags are feeling festive.

EuroShagmore Fri 28-Dec-12 13:46:45

I too was feeling fat this morning and as I can't easily get to my gym (it's right by my office and I have no desire to go there on a day off) I decided to try my untouched 30 Day Shred DVD this morning. Bloody hell that is hardcore! I am obviously less fit than I thought....

Northey Fri 28-Dec-12 13:53:23

What's it like, euro? I need to shed a stone (probably two by now, after all this Christmas gluttony) before getting married this year. Although naturally I have no problem with getting married with a bump of the non-fat sort.

lovesLemonDrizzleCake Fri 28-Dec-12 15:19:18

Are we on weight loss already? There is NYE to come still, hags. And I am intending to get entirely shit-faced on champagne (a friend is bringing) as droidal invasion is planned for Sunday... And I am not menkulling, honest

addictedismoving Fri 28-Dec-12 15:27:50

what does BESH mean? I've just been looking at all the ttc threads and I dont really want to join a bus atm, but would quite like to chat to some lovely people, I've seen this thread around, and have always wondered what its all about, so before I start chatting to you and realise its a quiche for people who have been ttc on a type of firtility drug o have been trying for years etc, what does it mean?

lovesLemonDrizzleCake Fri 28-Dec-12 15:31:47

Barren Evil Selfish Hags (correct me if I am wrong!) It's the DM term for over 30s TTC. We're by now a decidedly barren bunch, nearly all of us here are heading to or involved in some form of AC (or outsourcing as it is sometimes called). But we LOVE fresh meat. So hunt down a BESHtionaire and we shall judge your worthiness wink

addictedismoving Fri 28-Dec-12 15:43:12

ahh, well I am 25 (although dh is 32?) and already have 2 dc (although I have had 5mc and a very high chance of mc sad)
I think this isnt the place for me either. I will keep looking, thanks smile, sorry for intrupting you ladies.

RockinaroundtheTippletree Fri 28-Dec-12 16:41:45

Hi addicted, sorry to hear of your miscarriages, it must be heartbreaking. Lemons discription of us barrens is accurate. I'm not sure what you meant by quiche but if you are not hanging around please can we keep the quiche? I luve quiche grin

I have been having a clear out! Very therapeutic but also a bit useless as I still have four massive boxes of stuff that requires a decision from MATV as to whether it should go or what it actually is and he absolutely hates sorting stuff like that. He promised to help out over this Christmas week then buggered off to work for two days!!!

lovesLemonDrizzleCake Fri 28-Dec-12 17:12:17

Well done for clearing out tippy. And MATV owes you some tidying time. So there. That is lemon telling him!

I am having a POAS-dilemma. We have a friend staying for NYE, and droid is due on 30th, as is the friend. If droid stays away, testing would be on 31st. But then the friend has arrived. And our flat is tiny. If we want any privacy I should test before she comes. Hmmm. If no spotting tomorrow, it might be fun to pee on something for a change. I introduced SB to the concept of peeing on a fiver this morning... To waste money or not to waste money? I mean if I don't get droid, I kind of know anyway, and I get a clinic test, if droidless on Jan2nd

WinklyVersusTheZombies Fri 28-Dec-12 17:22:20

How long is the friend staying? You could leave it and POAFiver on New Years Day.

lovesLemonDrizzleCake Fri 28-Dec-12 17:25:49

Til new years day... But we're having a FEAST on NYE, which would involve raw meat and copious amounts of alcohol, if undiffed.

WinklyVersusTheZombies Fri 28-Dec-12 17:33:03

Pfft. My droid is due today and I had lots of blue cheese and wine last night. I'm refusing to POAFiver until I'm at least 4 days late.

Northey Fri 28-Dec-12 18:25:21

But she wouldn't actually be in the bathroom with you, would she? <wonders what kind of strange house rules lemonguests have to abide by> smile Though I guess it's the happy/sad aftermath you would want the privacy for.

You know that for the first week of diffedness the tiny proto-baybee gets all its nutrients from its own cells, so you can quaff and trough anything you like? It's only when the placenta is up and running that being careful starts to matter. So you could have your NYE fest and then test.

Northey Fri 28-Dec-12 18:28:00

addicted, I'm sorry to hear about the miscarriages and that you won't be sticking around, though I do agree with you that we might not be your best fit! The JS-ers (Just Shaggers) used to be a pretty friendly bunch and ideal for someone who is going at it in a natural sort of way. Or there are various TTC post MC support threads you could try?

EuroShagmore Fri 28-Dec-12 20:26:14

Quiche is MN speak for a clique, tipps.

drizz can't you hide a test in the bathroom now and do it while guest is there?

OComeAllYeFaithBaby Fri 28-Dec-12 20:33:32

Evening all!

I do believe the B is meant to stand for 'Bitter' and we are! but Barren applies too. Hi addicted. Sorry for your losses. I did wonder whether a TTC after MC thread night be the best place for you too. I never could bring myself to get on a bus!

I have been working today. The in laws left this morning and its quit naice to have the house to ourselves again! I did a short shift today and its got me wondering if I would be better to do short days while diffed. I certainly don't feel as tired!

EuroShagmore Fri 28-Dec-12 21:18:08

Hags, can I have a quick whinge? I warn you, it's needy.

Currently, we do not have NYE plans. We haven't done anything big on NYE for ages, but we have hosted quite a bit in recent years, including one big party for all our close friends and a number of smaller evenings for one or two couples. Frankly, after the year I have had (plus hosting Xmas) I just don't have the energy and I would love to be hosted for once. I have one half-hearted afterthought invitation from my closest friend who had already invited a load of people and said "oh you can come too if you like" when we were discussing it the weekend before Xmas. I am just feeling a bit unloved frankly. It has been a shit year and I just want someone to give me a nice night out. Meh. Staying in by ourselves would be shit as KFZK doesn't really drink, so I would end up having a glass of wine on my own. Well, I guess it is fitting - a shit end to a shit year.

EuroShagmore Fri 28-Dec-12 21:19:40

Oh yes, and to rub salt in the wound, closest friend has asked me to go round and help look after her three kids during the day on NYE (presumably while she gets ready to host everyone else). hmm

JethroTull Fri 28-Dec-12 21:42:50

Bloody hell Euro that is a bit shitty of your friend. Does she know what you've been through?

FrankelcenseAndMyhrr Fri 28-Dec-12 21:44:57

That is shitty Euro sad. Have you thought about booking the two of you into a hotel for the night? It might be pricey but will get you out of the house and I'm sure a hotel would have a shindig on for NYE.

RockinaroundtheTippletree Fri 28-Dec-12 21:45:54

lemon that is rather a dilemma. I would probably sneak myself away and do a test - perhaps say you are off for a bath or shower, do it as soon as you go in, then you can have a little while to digest the result - whichever way it goes?

So there is no actual quiche? <very sad emoticon> <is very sad>. I luuurrrvvve quiche smile sad

Euro you have every right to a needy moan and you deserve to be looked after one year. It can very often go that way though, you can entertain all the time but people don't think to reciprocate which is just mean

faith I am both bitter and apparently barren too so I'm comfortable with either description. Both are shit but hey ho

EuroShagmore Fri 28-Dec-12 22:07:07

Jeff not only does she know, she is the one with three IVF babies of her own, so she knows how shitty this is.

I can't be arsed with a hotel, or celebrating with strangers Frankel (I've found unsuccessful ttc has made me less sociable than I used to be). I'd just like a few drinks with friends.

Meh. Well 2012 can properly go fuck itself up the arse.

Northey Fri 28-Dec-12 22:54:09

2012 has been a pile of arse, euro, and I am unreasonably cross with your friends for not all falling over themselves to be the one who gets to host you.

If you really don't fancy a hotel sort of celebration, you could always fuck it totally and go to bed at 10pm - just ignore the whole thing.

OComeAllYeFaithBaby Fri 28-Dec-12 22:58:53

That's my plan norf. I will be working 30th/31st/1st long days. I will be knackered on 31st. MSB and I plan to stay in, watch tv, he'll have a drink then go to bed. That's what I'd do in your position euro. Tell your friend where to go!

JethroTull Fri 28-Dec-12 22:59:36

WTAF? Why does she think it's ok for you to look after her children but not go to her party? Delightful. It must be the day for shit friends. I text 2 of my close friends yesterday to ask how their Christmas Days were, said I felt a bit down & asked them if they were free to meet up for a cup of tea (they both know what's going on at the mo). One of them said she 'couldnt be bothered to get out of her pj's!' & the other one said 'bit busy with stuff can I get back to you'. FFS. I didn't want a day out, just an hour out of the house. Meh.

JethroTull Fri 28-Dec-12 23:00:27

Think that sounds like a plan Norf.

EuroShagmore Fri 28-Dec-12 23:32:14

I might well do that Norf if nothing materialises.

I think I am particularly touchy about this because NYE will be our official 2 year anniversary (after a long time of being casual about things, it was the first time we actually targeted my egg laying). My friends know I have been trying for ages but I didn't exactly announce the first ever time we had swi with a great fanfare, so I am kind of being a bit unreasonably annoyed at them for not pandering to me over something they are not aware of. (Terrible grammar there but you get the gist.)

It sounds like your friends are being equally shyte Jeff. Meh.

JethroTull Sat 29-Dec-12 09:11:06

Morning hags. Tis my wedding anniversary today. 3 years. We're having lunch out & seeing some friends later. Who needs crap friends when you've got a great husband?! grin

FrankelcenseAndMyhrr Sat 29-Dec-12 09:34:06

Happy wedding anniversary Jethro grin

I'm a bit miffed this morning, Futility Fiend has moved my ov day from Saturday to Wednesday and I'm concerned that we didn't get the sechs timing right, again. 3 days and 1 day before ov should be ok, shouldn't it? confused

OComeAllYeFaithBaby Sat 29-Dec-12 09:40:28

Ah futility fiend! Yes frank, that'll be fine. It'll probably move it back again tomorrow anyway! hmm

Happy anniversary Jeffers! You have a fan DH and luffly hags to look after you. Sorry your RL friends are a bit rubbish.

EuroShagmore Sat 29-Dec-12 09:42:54

Happy anniversary Jeff!

Frankel that sounds like pretty great timing to me. It might move it back anyway. It does things like that just to mess with your head!

FrankelcenseAndMyhrr Sat 29-Dec-12 10:05:50

Fanks hags, that makes me feel better.

More family duties this weekend - BIL and his girlfriend for lunch then the 4 of us are out to dinner with MIL tonight. Then we've got an 80 mile drive to go and have lunch with FIL tomorrow. <exhausting>

WinklyVersusTheZombies Sat 29-Dec-12 13:22:30

Sorry about the very rubbish "friends" Jeff & euro. NYE is crap, it raises expectations of fun and never delivers. HWCA and i are working until 10pm so will probably have a glass of wine and straight to bed. But euro your friend needs a smack in the chops with a cod fillet. And what sort of friend says they couldn't be bothered when asked for help?!

Happy wedding anniversary Jeff

frank I've never battled with futility fiend but your shagging dates sound good to me.

EuroShagmore Sat 29-Dec-12 20:47:33

I have consoled myself with some more sales shopping - a cashmere top from Gap, a long length hoodie from Kaliko, and this dress from Reiss that I love. I also picked up a black skirt with leather panels from Whistles (non sale, oops). I should probably hide my credit card from myself soon...

WinklyVersusTheZombies Sat 29-Dec-12 20:51:26

That dress is gorgeous. Am also jealous of the cashmere, ooh soft.

JethroTull Sat 29-Dec-12 22:14:05

Good shopping Euro. I've been looking for a skirt with leather panels <goes off to Whistles website>

Northey Sat 29-Dec-12 22:16:53

euro, you fashion fox! <looks sadly at own ancient rags>

There is all sorts of weird shit going on in my womanly areas. I have no idea what any of it means but basd on experience so far it will probably indicate some new massive fertility hurdle to overcome.

In better news, I have just been down to reception to complain that my room is noisy and they have moved me to a quieter one and takes £50 off the bill for the inconvenience. Hurrah!

TWinklyLittleStar Sat 29-Dec-12 22:20:56

What sort of weird shit norf? Tell all distract me from menkulling

Good money saving effort! Anywhere naice?

Northey Sat 29-Dec-12 22:32:41

Dublin. I expected better soundproofing for this price
<purses lips> But £50 off is ok, I guess.

Weird shit is nearly a week of faint brown discharge, with two instances of a single red splot of blood. This is all on paper - nothing actually reaching knickers. Am on CD36. Weird spotting started on CD31. I had sechs on CD6 and CD22 (plz admire our awesome sexuality). Last cycle was 54 days; the one before that was 43 days; cycles before ectopic were 31 days. <gives up on the menkul>

EuroShagmore Sat 29-Dec-12 22:35:18

I've done loads of clothes shopping in the past few months. I had kind of stopped for a while, partly due to ttc chub and partly because in the early days of ttc I thought there was no point buying things because I would soon be in maternity wear. <bitter laugh> But it's time to move on (and embrace my fertility drug chub). So now I have a lovely dress and no where to go. <Sigh>

Jeff, the skirt is called the Nick Insert Panel Skirt, if you are interested.

Norf plz to be describing weird shit.

Northey Sat 29-Dec-12 23:16:59

Oh. Addendum to previous weird shit description - now there is more blood on paper. I think this must be it now, and tomorrow it will cascade as usual. Bah. I'm not sure what I'm disappointed about. It was scarcely likely to be my month...

lovesLemonDrizzleCake Sun 30-Dec-12 08:41:04

Morning hags!

And norf did it descend into full blown droid? Mine did, thus removing the menkul and testing dilemmas, but I might have peed on an ancient fiver that we found behind the book shelves (it was from before TTC, when a negative was the right result, thos were the days). We had a bit of a meh-life-sucks etc chat and cry after the BFN (it still worked).

Sorry about the NYEs. I so know about it. Luckily we had the friend invite herself to stay (single, thirties, lovely) and we're gate crashing my sister's feast of rawness. I hope the hangover from yesterday will have lifted by then...

Happy (belated) anniversary, jethro! And YAY for fab husbands. Shopping is good replacement therapy as well, euro and I love that dress (but sadly don't pull that sort of thing off). Are you going for the norf option?

Why should we distract you winkle? Tell us all.

You were right, as always, about bitter, faif. But as we're also incredibly barren, maybe we should keep both. When I feel better I might post as victorian gentleman again. Now the head hurts!

Northey Sun 30-Dec-12 10:00:13

It did, drizz, at 3am. So I got back into bed and also had a little cry. I don't know why exactly I'm upset. If I had been updiffed there would have been a scarily high chance of another ectopic, and I'd have lost my ivf entitlement to boot. I think the sight of blood just takes me back to thing I don't really enjoy remembering.

Now I need to sort out an urgent CD2-5 blood test when I get back home (which will be on CD5, so not much room for error).

EuroShagmore Sun 30-Dec-12 10:02:26

Norf and drizz sorry for the arrival of Droid.

JethroTull Sun 30-Dec-12 10:42:12

It's strange that sometimes the droid upsets us & sometimes not. It's the hope I think, that keeps us going.

I am having a quiet morning pottering around the house whilst SSG runs 15 miles. Yes, 15 miles. Far too far for me. I've written a list of things I need to do. That's as far as I've got.

lovesLemonDrizzleCake Sun 30-Dec-12 12:41:07

angry at our not so festive droids. Sorry it got you down as well, norf. Hope you get it out of your system pre-NYE. I am hoping there is enough space, that I'll be very merry and pissed tomorrow.

I agree jethro, it is the hope thing. And I had symptoms (but not the one month I was diffed, but hey) and then the disappointment is so much bigger. GRR. Writing a list is good. I wonder round the flat declaring SB needs to tidy up after himself (which he needs, but he rescued me halfway through a challenging DIY project, so I can't whinge!)

Right hags, I have a friend staying from later on today, so won't be able to check in. Therefore: a MASSIVE HAPPY NEW YEAR to the bitterest, barrenest BESHes in mankind. To many wins in the new year wine am I alone in thinking that there clearly should be a festive wine, smiley, it could be a bubbly glass or wear a silly hat

TWinklyLittleStar Sun 30-Dec-12 17:42:48

Check out driz, having friends and everything! I bloody agreed to work the early shift on New Years Day today, fucksake. I was distracted and grumpy by the shitbag teenage burglar having photos of his new baby on his phone angry

I have largely not been menkulling for a change, but I think its safe to say my once regular droids are screwed - a week late last cycle, 2 days late and counting this cycle. I want the droid to hurry up so that I can get over the disappointment already. hugs bucket of prawns, norf & driz, and some festive smoked salmon too.

HWCA got "me" a breadmaker for christmas. I've barely been let near it. He's also hijacked the wireless speakers he got me. Thank goodness his hands are too large for my nice new gloves smile

RockinaroundtheTippletree Sun 30-Dec-12 17:45:03

<moan alert>

We just realised the car tax is out. MATV has shouted at me and I'm going to get a damn fine sad forgot to change the damn address when we moved. Grrr. And I have stomach ache and I feel stroppy. angry so I have a dr appt tomorrow morning first thing for my day21 blood test that I will have to walk to in pissing down rain just as it will be sods law that I'll get stopped, then get car tax then walk home, in the rain. angry.

northey I think it's therapeutic to have a cry when droid arrives, regardless of how much we 'know' it won't happen there is always that slight hope/expectation like Jethro says, every month. I suggest chocolate, hot water bottle and cuddles.

euro I love that dress, is beautiful!

twinkle love the name change smile

Happy New Year to you too lemon

jethro I happen to big fan of to do lists, MATV always says that I write lists of the lists I need but it's the only way to stay organised sometimes. smile

ArielTheBahHumbugMermaid Sun 30-Dec-12 19:50:26

Hello hags, I have been out of the loop for a long time and have just pinched Sister's computer. All I have time to say is hello.

TWinklyLittleStar Sun 30-Dec-12 19:53:55

<tackles rie to the ground with over enthusiastic hello>

TWinklyLittleStar Sun 30-Dec-12 19:54:36

Oh and fanks tipsy, I thought zombies were soooo two freds ago

evilgiraffe Sun 30-Dec-12 20:13:45

Good evening, gentlemen. My esteemed husband and I have once more returned Home, after much travelling and visiting of friends and relations. We are both much relieved to have completed our journeying and are now in the process of compiling a selection of musical entertainment in readiness for a small gathering of close friends here on the morrow. Thus far, the styles of music are extremely varied in both age and genre, but we are confident that as a collective they will prove entertaining (even if not all of our choices show great technical or artistic merit).

Any suggestions for our playlist gratefully received! We are both feeling fairly cheerful at the minute - that will be mid-cycle calm hormones I suppose...

OComeAllYeFaithBaby Sun 30-Dec-12 21:06:53

Evening chaps!

tipps I've done it twice now, been well over and didn't get fined! When was it due?!

Muchos sympathy for seasonal droids angry norf is it not the hope of the ironi diff? Even though the odds are that natural conception would result in another ectopic, it must be hard to let go of the idea of proving all the docs and get not only the BFP and in the right place? Droid still feels like you've missed out on that. smile However, I am brimming with optimism that it will be your win wiv the IVF. Soon.

I am feeling like crap with a stinking cold/sore throat and am done day 1 of 3 in a row. Bleurgh.

RockinaroundtheTippletree Sun 30-Dec-12 21:36:33

Faif it ran out end of November so is exactly one month tomorrow. Consulting with another forum which is full of men seems to indicate that they will either back date it or back date it and fine me £60-£80....

OComeAllYeFaithBaby Sun 30-Dec-12 21:49:32

They just backdated mine. It was over 6 weeks overdue! shock

SinkyMalinks Sun 30-Dec-12 22:31:40

Salutation besh gentlemen.

I am embarking on a final nocturnal stint for my esteemed employers benefit.

Has all been a bit horrific so far to be honest, but 11 hrs I I and I'll be free (til Wednesday)

Sorry for the all the druid-al invasions. I am currently suffering the womble cramps, but suspect its just the metformin rather than anything more intresting (droid = drugs). I've done my usual and got bored with the slow increase of metformin so have wapped it up to full dose. Feel a bit sick. hmm

Is anyone going out tomorrow? A naice houseparty sounds fun, but I felt dreadful tonight prior to come to work, so suspect I'll be watching tv quietly ony own (ghj's on nights from tomorrow). Rock on.

So. Anyone awake to entertain me? I can't guareentee I'll be able to respond, but entertainment always appreciated.

RockinaroundtheTippletree Mon 31-Dec-12 12:42:18

Well, just checking in to say hope everyone has a good or at least bearable NY's eve! Here's to a much better 2013 for us all.

Car tax was thankfully sorted without any tears so to celebrate I bought a load of new make up and had a little make over in boots with a No.7. lady who I think took pity on me when I said I really have no idea with make up. Think she guessed from looking at me so now I am colour coordinated and nicely bronzed just to come home, clean the house and have a bacon butty with MATV! grin

TWinklyLittleStar Mon 31-Dec-12 12:53:52

Glad the tax was sorted!

Had my last BFN of 2012 this morning. Hardcore lifestyle changing starts tomorrow...

Happy New Year in advance, 2012 can Do One smile

Northey Mon 31-Dec-12 16:19:35

May as well finish as you started, twink.

IVF super health for me from tomorrow as well.

I know I've said it before, but it does bear repeating - 2012 was utter arse from start to finish.

ArielTheBahHumbugMermaid Mon 31-Dec-12 16:45:22

Certainly was Norf. Here's hoping for a better one for you xxx

JethroTull Mon 31-Dec-12 16:56:05

<clutches Rie to megre buzwams>

NYE is always such a let down. Back in the day I'd spend a small fortune on an outfit, ticket to a club and a taxi home. I gave in a few years ago & admitted I had more fun sat on the sofa!

Anyway hags, wishing you all a successful and positive 2013.

<opens bottle of IVF friendly Schloer>

OComeAllYeFaithBaby Mon 31-Dec-12 17:18:34

<cradles all BESH in my now oh so ample buzzwams>

Generally a crappy year. I have high hopes for 2013 for you lot though!

Y'know they send end off the end of the year as you intend to spend the next one? I'll be curled up in bed, feeing like crap with a viral infection! Ruddy germs.

evilgiraffe Mon 31-Dec-12 17:30:31

Hear, hear. <raises glass to Norf's toast>

2013 can only be better! And we're ringing it in with several good friends who are coming over in about half an hour - we're doing cocktails and pizza and an as-yet-unspecified film grin

Also, hosting comes with the added benefit of having done SO MUCH HOUSEWORK so we shall start the new year all clean and tidy, hoorah!

EuroShagmore Mon 31-Dec-12 17:38:09

Happy New Year one and all. Save for the few of us who have been blessed in 2012, I hope 2013 is less of a pile of arse than the past year has been.

I spent the morning toddler-wrangling while bf's husband was at work. Three of them combined = pure chaos. They are uber cute though. Then we've been out to buy chocs and champers for tonight.

We got a last minute invite (although it feels a little forced - we invited them and they reciprocated as they have a 2 month old baby, so we guessed that might happen) so we are off out for dinner later. I have bought another new thing to wear this (bad Euro!). Must. Stop. Shopping.

OComeAllYeFaithBaby Mon 31-Dec-12 17:40:28

Have fun euro! I am envy at your clothes!

OComeAllYeFaithBaby Mon 31-Dec-12 20:06:45

Woo a fred I started is in most active!

TWinklyLittleStar Mon 31-Dec-12 23:11:12

Should I poas in the morning and get 2013's first BFN out of the way? grin

Home from working saying goodbye to wine.


RockinaroundtheTippletree Tue 01-Jan-13 09:11:40

Ick....I have just naturally woken up at 830, tomorrow is going to kill me. Must be organised and get everything super ready to go for she I get up!

How was everyone's new year? We got woken up at midnight to fireworks and a loud singing party just over from us. Some mad bastard had a whistle and made the most of it for a full five minutes!!!

Twinkly - I think not for POAS, don't risk a shitty start to the NY I'm I kinda tempted too myself though I'm only 7DPO.

I drank a lot of wine last night and am now really feeling it sad

FrankelcenseAndMyhrr Tue 01-Jan-13 09:39:44

Good morning BESH and a very happy new year to you all.

We went out for dinner with some friends in our village and then on to the local British Legion to watch a band who were, quite frankly, shite! It did nothing for my opinion that NYE is a massive let-down: I could have gone home after dinner and considered it a good night. We didn't get home till 1am and I've only had about 5 hours sleep thanks to HWHNN's snoring hmm

As has already been said, here's hoping 2013 is substantially better than 2012 for all of us.

EuroShagmore Tue 01-Jan-13 11:51:02

Morning BESH. Well, we had a nice evening at the end - just a quiet dinner with friends. The evening seemed to whizz by. Fortunately, I managed not to get too morose about ttc stuff.

I had a terrible night though. I didn't get to sleep until nearly 4am (and I wasn't out that late!). Meh. I feel knackered and groggy today. I'm considering running but I'm not sure I have the energy.

bluer Tue 01-Jan-13 12:41:01

Happy new year. Hope everyone gets what they wish for wine

evilgiraffe Tue 01-Jan-13 13:26:52

Happy new year everyone! I had a fabulous evening last night, good friends and lots of cocktails and good music and a crappy film and much giggling and conversation until 2.30am. Then this morning we all had coffee and bacon and went for a walk, now everyone has gone home, the dishwasher is on, so DH and I are chilling smile

I think we're likely to have an early night tonight, though!

Northey Tue 01-Jan-13 13:47:58

I had a truly excellent night - very alcoholic, bed at 3am, up at 5am, flight at 6.30am, back in Blighty (am getting in practice for the 40s fred) at 8am. Now on the sofa with a bag of minstrels and a cookery programme. NY healthy ivf resolutions start tomorrow.

blonderthanred Tue 01-Jan-13 14:20:57

Happy new year BESH, here's truly wishing 2013 is your year.

JustplainoldBuggerlugs Tue 01-Jan-13 14:27:07

Happy new year to all you luffly BESH.

I've had a busy busy week. Will post properly in a couple of days.

lovesLemonDrizzleCake Tue 01-Jan-13 18:30:58

Happy new year, hags!
We had a lovely, very alcoholic one too, followed by a day of stabbing and home cooking and a walking in the park. Now very knackered so more later.

lovesLemonDrizzleCake Tue 01-Jan-13 18:32:16

Oh and mahoosive AGREE with norf about the last year. Oh and I might join you on superhealth. SB commented on my growing belly angry

Northey Tue 01-Jan-13 19:01:38

Was this your first stab, lem? How was it?