TTC after recent mc - thread 3. Handholding, naff jokes and the infamous Laura Ashley skirt.

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Happy new thread! Here's hoping for lots of Christmas and new year bfp's, and long healthy pregnancies for everyone. smile

Boozeandadietjinglebell Thu 13-Dec-12 10:26:39

Thanks James - marking my place!

blundercatsHOHOHO Thu 13-Dec-12 10:55:27

Me too, thanks james. Shall we do stats?

yorkiebilb Thu 13-Dec-12 11:11:44

Hi all,

I'd like to join the thread if that's okay. I've just had a mmc and had an erpc. Had a bit of a rubbish time as had horrendous ms - at one point I was throwing up 13 times a day. The docs told me when I went for my procedure that that was normally a sign of a healthy pregnancy - obv in my case it wasn't.

Anyway, I'm trying to be positive so I thought I'd come and chat with you lovely people and put myself amongst some good vibes! I haven't even stopped bleeding yet but do want to get on with ttc asap! Good luck to everyone on here!

IBelieveInPink Thu 13-Dec-12 11:23:23

Ta James <mooches in, gets settled and offers mulled wine to those not yet upduffed>

Hi Yorkie. Sorry to hear about your mc, but you are definitely among friends here. Sorry to hear you had such rough morning sickness! Thats just mean! I felt like something was up as I had nothing in the way of sickness, but that is just plain unfair!

How's everyone today? I had worked up the courage to try and be brave later and get 'back on the Wagon' so to speak, and DH has decided to go out drinking tonight! Grrrrr.

literaryone Thu 13-Dec-12 11:24:57

yorkie, so sorry to hear of your loss. I hope you're surrounding yourself with comfort (whether alone or whether with people who are kind) and that the discomfort and bleeding pass off soon. It's such a sad time, good for you for being able to even think ahead. Good vibes from me, for certain.

I had the same problem you did, dreadful morning sickness (officially diagnosed as hyperemesis, so DH and I are convinced I made it fashionable which is why HRH Kate promptly followed suit wink) -- threw up 15-20 times a day for 10 weeks. Sign of a healthy pregnancy, not for me either... sad.

Tight hug to you.

And thanks, all of you for the warm welcome and the sympathy. It has been a lousy three months or so since we lost the baby and I only have managed to start feeling much better again after convincing myself that trying again wasn't an atrocious idea. The extra fear IS because it was so late, no question. I don't want it to make me into a worrywart, but it probably already has... I'm hoping to start TTC again in February or so, have to make sure thyroid levels are balanced before we can start. So I'll keep checking in to get to know all of you, but not yet in exactly the same club. grin

BelissimaLol Thu 13-Dec-12 11:26:30

Marking my place in the middle of a meeting. Naughty! grin

GaryBuseysTeeth Thu 13-Dec-12 12:28:12

Bump, sorry to hear how things are with your mum. x

Welcome yorkie

Bad Blol, get back to work!! grin

Thanks for the new thread James, if I make it through the weekend I'll be more pg than I was when I mc (I never did work out my dates exactly but mc was around 6wks 3).

BlingJingleJanie Thu 13-Dec-12 12:44:58

Hey girls thanks for starting the new thread. Waving hi to everyone and hugs to yorkie

Stats for me: 32, had mc and d&c at beginning of oct(around 6wks) and just got AF yesterday for first time since (10week wait). May the TTC commence again yay!!

Usually I'm usually a miserable cow when AF is here but 2 people in work commented on how happy I looked today haha!! If only they knew!! Won't be so happy when AF comes next time!!

yorkiebilb Thu 13-Dec-12 13:54:15

Thanks everyone for being so lovely and sorry to Bump to hear your sad news.

literaryone you definitely made it fashionable - 10 weeks of throwing up so often sounds awful. I was only really ill for 4 weeks and I thought that was bad enough. I'm certainly making up for all the non eating and weight loss when pg. Chocolate has become my best friend again! I'll probably leave it till Feb as well to start again....

BaublesForSally Thu 13-Dec-12 14:33:23

Ooh a new thread! Checking in...

Stats, quickly: 32, mmc found at 13 week scan in early September. ERPC. Cycle 3 started on Monday at 9dpo goddamnit (NINE. NINE DAYS. WHAT EVEN IS THAT.) so back on the B vits for me - I ignored them last cycle (because they are disgusting and I hate them) and evidently they were making a significant difference.

Sorry for your losses literary and yorkie and welcome.

Bump sorry to hear about your mum. I'm in a similar position with my MIL and it's utterly rotten.

Bakingtins Thu 13-Dec-12 15:17:06

Hurrah for new threads - we managed to do pretty well for new BFPs on the last one. It's our turn now - form an orderly queue, ladies!

My stats - 2nd MC at 8 weeks in September, now onto cycle 4. I have 2 children and TTC no 3, had been trying for a year for the baby we lost.

Welcome yorkieB! literary you need a B name, dem's de rules. How about something suitably literary erm.. bridesheadrevisited, brightonrock. Someone help me out quick.....

IBelieveInPink Thu 13-Dec-12 16:08:45

Ooh, and stats.

TTC number 1, mmc at 8 weeks. Stopped growing at 5 weeks. Erpc end of October, af took 5 weeks to reappear. Now trying to be brave en

IBelieveInPink Thu 13-Dec-12 16:10:29

Enough to try again!

blundercatsHOHOHO Thu 13-Dec-12 16:15:38

Welcome yorkie, hi everyone else.

My stats- ttc #1, mmc at 12 weeks (foetus measured 10), ERPC mid nov, first af 4 weeks later. I am more than ready to ttc again!

Boozeandadietjinglebell Thu 13-Dec-12 16:17:03

And me...

30, TTC number 1, cycle no.1 after natural miscarriage at 6+1.

BrieMonster Thu 13-Dec-12 16:46:28

Hi all the bees and non-bees.

This is me: Just managed to conceive #2. Seven weeks tomorrow I think, dates changed a bit. Had bleeding on Monday reminiscent of mc back in sept but scan confirmed so far so good.
MC was six and a half weeks and complete. Sticking around here to watch all the bfp's roll in and because you are all so very nice!

literaryone Thu 13-Dec-12 16:53:18

Oooh, a B name. Let me think. In the meantime, recap of status: 30, waiting around to TTC #1. Had late miscarriage at 18+6 in September (no specific cause found). Frankly, terrified. Cycle no. 4 after miscarriage but have to wait till cycle no. 6 (minimum).

BumpKitty Thu 13-Dec-12 17:27:28

Hi all, thanks again for your thoughts. And hello to yorkie and literary so sorry about your mcs

My stats - 32, TTC #2, mc in October - started bleeding day before 12 wk scan. Blighted ovum, sac measured 6 + 4, eventual ERPC mid Nov and AF showed up 3 weeks later (if that was an AF - jury's still out).

Think I have decided to press on with ttc, we need something else to focus on - I can't imagine wanting to have sex though so we'll see.

DD has a terrible stomach bug, DH has had to deal with poo all over the carpet and an inconsolable child, she is currently snuggled up on me in just a blanket poor little beggar

BelissimaLol Thu 13-Dec-12 17:49:16

Hi bump just gone back and read about your mum. There is nothing I can say that will make it easier. I'm so sorry this is happening to you and your family. Why don't you tell us something nice about your mum?!

My stats:38, had mc in July at 7 weeks, started bleeding at 6+4. Am exactly 6+4 today (eek) and have scan tomorrow. This will be my first hopefully!

literaryone Thu 13-Dec-12 18:01:36

Bump, I too just went back and read about your mum. I'm very sorry and will be thinking good thoughts of strength for all of you.

BombasticPeanut Thu 13-Dec-12 20:25:04

New thread, yeassss! This is The One Where Us Veterans Get Knocked Up <shoves in just behind bakingtins but then feels bad about treading on toes>

Stats: 30, ttc #1 after mmc at 10wk at beginning Aug. been ttc since but af is still playing silly buggers, am somewhere between cd 3 and cd35 on what might be 2nd or 3rd cycle post mc as not sure if af this week was just having me on.

bump so sorry about your mum. Everyone else has said lovely things, I wholeheartedly second all of them. Thinking of you xxx

Welcome newbies, get your bees on! (Should it be new-bees? chortle chortle snort) Xxx

Bumpkinmunchkin Thu 13-Dec-12 21:18:51

Thanks james for new thread. Hope it's a lucky one for us all.

Sorry bumpkitty to hear about your mum. It's beyond devastating.

Welcome to yorkie and literary and sorry for your losses.

Waves to everyone else.

Sorry I haven't been around but just getting fed up with whole ttc. I will be 41 on sat , ttc # 3, had a mmc in April where baby stopped growing at 7+6 but I was prob supposed to be a few weeks further on. I'm only on cycle 4 as I've had really long cycles.

BumpKitty Thu 13-Dec-12 21:29:43

thanks you lot - i could do with good thoughts of strength smile

erm, something nice - there's so much. We found out mum had secondary cancer in Feb 2010 she has been in pretty good heath till Aug/Sept this year. In June 2011 she was awarded an MBE (she is the Head of a charity) - my dad, my brother and I all went to Buckingham Palace to see her get her award. It was so special and such an amazing memory (DH had to wait outside with DD screaming her head off the whole time!).

BumpKitty Thu 13-Dec-12 21:43:09

Happy Birthday for Sat BMunchkin

blundercatsHOHOHO Thu 13-Dec-12 22:17:02

Hey bumpkin, sorry you're feeling low with it all- totally understandable. Do you use opks?

I'm feeling it this evening too. Facebook is full of scan pics at the moment. I think I am actually haunted by my scan (and the photo they first offered me and then when I declined, stuck it in my file so I was faced with it before and after my erpc). Want to feel pleased for others but it just hurts at the moment.

bump that is an amazing achievement of your mum. Going to Buckingham palace too eh? Bet you all thought carefully about your outfits!

AlmondFrangipani Thu 13-Dec-12 22:29:27

Yeah to a new thread and a new ap that is working!

Stats: 31 yrs TTC #1. Natural Mc in Aug/Sep at 7 weeks (bleeding started at 5.5) due to clot in womb. 5 weeks later AF showed. BFP 6+2. Fx get to 12 wk scan and in tact!

Good luck tomor Lol! Thought I was further behind you?!

<Waves night to everyone>

BumpKitty Thu 13-Dec-12 22:33:27

ha ha blunder actually i looked like a bag of crap, DD was about 6 months - still breastfeeding all the time, cosleeping with me and was coming down with a cold. My outfit was ok but i just scraped all my hair back and shoved it into a bun thinking i'd sort it out at some later point but never did - luckily i'm not in many pics as straight after the ceremony I had to dash into the car and feed DD to stop her screaming her lungs out. Everyone else looked nice though smile

So sorry about your scan, I was expecting the worst at my scan as I had had bleeding and quite a bit of pain during the night so to see an empty sac was actually a relief.

My boobs, they hurt!

My stats: currently pg with number 3 after blighted ovum at 7.5 weeks in October/November. Conceived directly after mc so I don't know how the hospital will date the pregnancy as they never believe a damn word I say re: dates and opk's. mutter mutter...

Did I mention my boobs hurt?

BelissimaLol Fri 14-Dec-12 12:01:53

Just back from hospital. They found a tiny baby with a heartbeat!! grin
Measured 3 days behind where I thought I was so I'm now 6+2 and not 5.

IBelieveInPink Fri 14-Dec-12 12:21:20

Aw lol just had a little tear for you! Must be extra emotional today! Congrats. How lovely and exciting smile

Boozeandadietjinglebell Fri 14-Dec-12 12:22:20

I feel very, very ill. Entirely self induced but still feel sorry for myself. Bleurgh. Need to go and buy DH's Christmas present now as we've sent everyone home (productivity was at a bare minimum!).

BLol yay for your little baby and their tiny heartbeat. So pleased for you!

yorkiebilb Fri 14-Dec-12 12:41:25

Great news BLol!! You must be very pleased.

Fozzie1977 Fri 14-Dec-12 12:52:39

hello there- not sure if i really belong her or in fact where i belong. diagnosed with a PUL just over 4 weeks ago at 6 weeks pregnant after two periods of bleegins. Treated with menthotrexate 4 weeks yesterday and having weekly blood tests to monitor HCG levels. Hit 74 yesterday and EPU want be below 20. feels like this has been going on a lifetime. almost over thank goodness. won't be able to TTC again until middle February :-(

BelissimaLol Fri 14-Dec-12 13:08:56

Hi foz sorry you find yourself here and yeah you do belong with us! I had a PUL back in July and these ladies helped me loads.
Yeah I'm pleased and a bit freaked out. I have not thought what will happen if I actually have a baby!
Not out of the woods as we all know but I huge step forwards!

Bakingtins Fri 14-Dec-12 13:09:25

Great news Blol so pleased for you!

Welcome Fozzie - you can belong here, we're all at different stages of the journey. Hope you get your levels down soon. I had to go back for weeks after MC because levels took a long time to fall to zero, I know what you mean about prolonging it. We'll put you down for a November baby, shall we?

Fozzie1977 Fri 14-Dec-12 13:12:02

thanks ladies- just felt a bit lost lately as this was our first pregnancy and we got pregnant as soon as we started trying so was heartbroken for it all to go wrong. yes November would suit be fine lol

how did they treat your PUL Belissima?

Fozzie1977 Fri 14-Dec-12 13:15:16

oh and congratulations to all those pregnant ladies!!

AlmondFrangipani Fri 14-Dec-12 18:49:50

Lol awwww that is lovely news! I am very pleased all is going well for you. Have you had any more symptoms?

James me too! I am have moved to non-wired bras. If you havent already that might help?

I have had the worst nausea for the past few days. Literally feel like I am going to puke at any moment (but havent yet). The only way to get through it I have found is eating crisps and ginger nuts! So much for trying not to put too much weight on!! I feel like a right hefalump already!

Hi Fozzie, welcome to our lovely group!

P.s to the bee's and non bees watching their intake I have found some lovely fake mulled wine from Sainsburys. Not quite the same but close enough to make me feel I am having a fun festive drink!

BelissimaLol Fri 14-Dec-12 18:54:25

I'm going shopping tomorrow for fake festive drinks so will look out for mulled wine (which I love!)
What else do you suggest? Any fake wine worth drinking?
The only new thing is the pain and size of my boobs. They are literally jumping out of my bra! Might have to buy a new one.
Feel only very slightly queasy but more hungry really. And still knackered all the time!

littlepinkfizz Fri 14-Dec-12 20:14:23

Hi ladies,can I join please?

Cycle 5 since mmc at 13 weeks. I also had horrendous ms where I never vomited once but had dreadful nausea 24/7 and went down to under 6.5 stone. So much for a good sign....

Have 4 dc,youngest 22 mths and had 2 mc's prior to ds conception,but at around 6/7 weeks.

Problem is that we don't manage to Dtd on the correct days as DO feels under pressure to perform. So we are just shagging when we can and real,y hoping for the best. Not bothering with opk's o,temps or examining cm as I feel that makes me obsessed.

Anyway, that's me! Good luck and Christmas wishes to everyone smile

BumpKitty Fri 14-Dec-12 21:28:22

hiya fozzie and littlepinkfizz welcome on board.

Blol so excited and happy for you, lovely news xx

blundercatsHOHOHO Fri 14-Dec-12 21:45:29

Hi fozz, sorry you are here but you definitely belong, if you want to.

pinkfizz, I think we have met on either ttc or maybe the May thread- not sure you'll remember me, but just to say welcome and I'm sorry you're here too.

bump, that's amazing- dashing to b-palace and running about managing a screaming hungry DD- that's got to be a memory to make you smile. That's a real family!

lol, as you know- delighted for you x x

booze you ok? Christmas party wassit?

BumpKitty Fri 14-Dec-12 21:49:38

cheers bump it was pretty special, I have put a pic on my profile if anyone is interested. And one of DD as I couldn't resist!

BumpKitty Fri 14-Dec-12 21:49:51

ha ha i mean blunder

blundercatsHOHOHO Fri 14-Dec-12 22:11:15

bump (or should I call you blunder?!), these are gorgeous pics. But where is the one of you hanging out of the car feeding DD?!

Also, not sure as bottom pic doesn't show brilliantly on my phone but it looks to me that your daughter has something very similar to your mum about her?

BumpKitty Fri 14-Dec-12 22:39:36

Right blunder just for you - note tired face and attractive scraped back hair.
Funny you should say about DD and my mum - I am the spit of my mum and DD is just like her daddy but I took a pic of her yesterday and it reminds me of one of my mum's baby pictures - so maybe smile

blundercatsHOHOHO Fri 14-Dec-12 22:46:23

Thank you bump, I am honoured.

Firstly- I can't believe there really is one of you in the car! Secondly you look great (love DDs frills too) and thirdly I might be wrong but I still reckon there's a resemblance there- between all three of you smile

Bodice Fri 14-Dec-12 22:55:48

Hi can I join? Not quite able to start trying till AF but need some hand holding anyway.

Well my stats: age 31. Had two miscarriages now.
Number one: in august was thought to be an early failing ectopic - no intervention - just lots of blood tests and waiting around for hormones to stop going up.
Number two: a MMC I had an ERPC on tuesday. Should have been 8 weeks ish but heart stopped about 6 and a half.

Still bleeding a bit and then waiting for AF. And then i will be getting blood tests - thrombophilia screen etc and then I will be debating with hubby whether to take the baby aspirin from that point and start trying or wait another 6 weeks for a second lot of tests - why they feel the need to do a repeat and make me wait more beats me. I Just want to get on with it. Is anyone else in this predicament?

BumpKitty Fri 14-Dec-12 23:05:01

blunder i spent a lot of time in that car, DH was taking the pics so I guess he wanted to capture the day as it was! There is also one of me with a beefeater, but I digress...

Bodice welcome to the thread - and well done for already having a 'B' name (if you haven't read back a lot of the posters who are now pg have names beginning with B). So are you having blood tests as you have had 2 mc or is it due to the first one being ectopic? Just wondering as I know most PCTs only investigate after 3 mcs. Have you looked on the miscarriage association site? I suppose it depends on the reason they are asking you to wait, it is very hard to get to the bottom of this for most of us. I hope AF turns up soon for you - did you get pg straight after your first mc?

Bodice Fri 14-Dec-12 23:08:51

Fozzie - I had a PUL early ectopic last time. It was my first too and we had just started trying. Its so tough all that waiting and keep going for bloods checking. I started trying again as soon as I got my period and got pregnant two cycles later. Why on earth are they making you wait till Feb?

chocolateteabag Fri 14-Dec-12 23:59:42

Hello, please can I join too? (sad wave at Bodice)
In middle of first natural mc after scan on Tuesday showed no growth past 6 weeks (should have been 8 weeks)

My mc started about an hour after the scan and I had "the world falling out of me" on Wed (in front of the bloke tiling my kitchen who must of thought I was super rude as I legged it to the bathroom mid sentence) still bleeding now, but it's lighter now and Reminds me of post birth bleeding with DS (2) but thankfully without the feeling of being kicked up the foof

Really want to get right back on the horse so to speak and get upduffed before next AF but maybe I am being ambitious?

BombasticPeanut Sat 15-Dec-12 09:24:45

Morning one and all

Hello newbies, sorry you're with us but welcome to one and all! fizz weren't you on the first of these Freds? Hello again!

All the preggers ladies (all the preggers ladies) <hums Beyonce> glad to hear that things are going well, especially the sighting of tiny beany heartbeats (can't remember who it was and can't scroll up, sorry), am so excited on your behalf!

bump I want to be nosy but how do you look at profiles? <hangs head and admits technical incompetence>

Is it wrong to drink fake mulled wine for breakfast?

I don't know where I am in my cycle today. I think I'm cd36ish, but had a 'maybe' af early this week and today got a pos opk. And have sore boobs which never happens. But BFN. So I have no clue, it's all gone mental! Forced DH into dtd anyway just in case and made him late for work mwahaha. I've made an appointment to see the doc next week about unrelated Achilles tendon issues, but might just ask them about the random AF thing and see if they can suggest anything (something tells me it's unlikely, my GP is as useful as a chocolate teapot).

In other news, the dog has eaten the Christmas tree.

Bodice Sat 15-Dec-12 10:56:24

Hi bump lovely photos by the way , I asked for the tests and they were fine about it -it may be because I work in the epau myself so maybe I was getting special treatment. I know it's early days in the grand scheme of things and they were two different types of miscarriage so hopefully there is nothing wrong but it would be heartbreaking to lose another when it could be easily preventable so I just want to set my mind at rest. I got pregnant after two periods after the first ectopic but I was trying after one - I didn't take methotrexate.

chocolateteabag nice to have a friend join me from the July 2013 club. I hope that things are settling down today xxx

AlmondFrangipani Sat 15-Dec-12 13:29:17


I am taking a break from a stressful day at work to say hello to my fav ladies cheesy I know!

Fozzie & Bodice (any anyone else) can I ask you for your advice? I'm 6+4 after a mc in August. Im obviously very on edge about every twinge and pain but I am have some how convinced myself I am having an eptopic pg...I have been having localised twinge/occasional shooting pain on left hand side. When I was in bed it was there quite a lot but today less so. Went on Dr Google and it said these are a common sign of eptopic eeek. Is this similar to what you experienced?? sorry for the paranoia. My GP dismissed me last time I mentioned stuff like this...

<waves at Fizz> I remember you from some other threads. Sounds like I am having the same nausea as you but I am seem to be trying to eat through it but can only manage salty, unhealhty things which means I am getting fatter by the day...

Peanut oh no to the tree! My lab keeps threatening to cock his leg on ours shock! Mulled wine at breakfast is totally acceptable in my world!

BombasticPeanut Sat 15-Dec-12 14:28:31

Incidentally bfp'ers, groupon is offering 3d scan for £39 at the moment. Don't know if it's too early to be thinking about such things but thought I'd mention it! and had to hold back from getting it myself despite not being pregnant because I'm mental

Boozeandadietjinglebell Sat 15-Dec-12 14:36:41

Peanut my first instinct when reading your post was 'ooh, I wonder when you have to use it by'. I need help and am also clearly mental

BelissimaLol Sat 15-Dec-12 14:37:30

Almond I was having pain on the left side and was also convinced I was having an ectopic. It turned out to be a small cyst in my ovary. However GP should not brush you off and if you are scared you are entitled to a scan in my opinion! When is your app with midwife? Maybe ask her then?

Bodice Sat 15-Dec-12 14:55:28

AlmondFrangipani Why don't you try ringing the EPAU directly. If the pain isn't too bad perhaps wait till monday and give the EPAU a ring. If it gets worse go the the gynaecology ward and they will see you. I don't tend to bother with GP's at all except to get a refferal further down the line. They are pretty useless. Most EPAUs are self refferal. It's worth checking out. My symptoms very severe - doubling over - pain on one side at around the time my period was due that lasted a few hours ( i think it was implantation) followed by intermittent light bleeding and eventually a lot of bleeding. But they are not all the same. Like Belissima said it is probably more likely to be a small cyst/corpus luteum which is normal but it may set your mind at rest to check it out.

Bakingtins Sun 16-Dec-12 09:39:41

Hi to Fozzie and Bodice.

Littlepinkfizz I think we were on the MC boards around the same time - I remember people who were kind to me then (was messtins at the time, N/C to get on the B bandwagon but yet to take effect.....)

Almond hope you are feeling ok today. Get checked out if you are worried.

AlmondFrangipani Sun 16-Dec-12 12:29:39

Hi Girls,

Thanks for the advice Bodice and Lol. The feeling/pain seems to come and go. For example this morning it was there and I thought hmmmm and then it goes completely. My EPAU is not self referall unfortuantly. I will need to get referred by my GP. My first midwife appointment is on 27th Dec so I thought I would see how I feel in the next couple of days and call the GP if it gets worse.

Lol did you have the cyst this time around? I have done a bit more reading and I wondered if that was what the problem is. I am pretty sure I would know if it was eptopic...

Hope everyone else is having a lovely weekend. I am at work and got to get through 6 days on the trot...soooo tired already!

BelissimaLol Sun 16-Dec-12 13:54:16

Hi almond yes it was this time and I was pretty convinced it meant the worse. Luckily my gp took pity on me and said I looked anxious no shit and gave me the referral. Personally if you are worried I would push for it and make it worse if I had to
Well it looks like you are now ahead of me as I have been put back to 6+4. That dreaded milestone again. EDDIE now 7th aug.
Let us know how you get on x

BrieMonster Sun 16-Dec-12 14:35:08

Just checking how everyone's doing and thought I'd say hi instead of just stalking.
Annoying isn't it lol to be put back, even by a few days.. Because at the moment every bit of every week counts for us! I have my booking appt on tues which from memory doesn't mean much. But have had a bit of brown blood, not blood but light.. So will mention that. Had it probably 30% of the time I go to the loo. Anyone else? Helps o have had the scan but still not feeling out of the woods.

james have you done your test? No pressure or anything.

chocolateteabag Sun 16-Dec-12 19:16:46

Can I ask if this normal please for a natural mc?

Lost a lot of tissue on Wed and have been having heavy period type bleed since. Today I have more pronounced cramps and more smaller bits of tissue. Are the cramps my uterus going back? Little bits the womb lining?
Tummy feels more bruised today than the past 2 days and guessing this is just normal, but just having a little worry

Am I also silly for really wanting to get pg straight away and just want this bleeding out of the way so we can get back to ttcing?

BumpKitty Sun 16-Dec-12 19:23:28

Hey all, sorry for those having worries x
chocolate sounds pretty normal yes. The bleeding stopped and started for ages with me - in the end my mc was incomplete so I had to have an ERPC but I think what you have described is normal for complete mc too as the tissue takes a while to all come out for some people.
And lots of us wanted to ttc straight away, in fact some of the pg posters didn't have AF just got straight on with it and if that's what you want to do then do it!

AlmondFrangipani Sun 16-Dec-12 21:05:11

Lol I'm going to call tomor and push for a referral to EPAU. It will put my mind to rest if nothing else. I don't think I'll be ahead of you for long, I'm sure I'm not as far either!

Chocolate I had a natural mc and what you are describing is the same as my experience. Mine took over 2 weeks to complete and just when I thought it was over some more cramps/tissue would appear.

I'm feeling awful at mo. I have ms with full force minus being sick. Brink of wanting to throw up all day is exhausting! I know I shouldn't complain but feeling sorry for myself!

yorkiebilb Sun 16-Dec-12 21:51:48

chocolate I'm feeling exactly the same as you. Been bleeding for 10 days now and thought it had stopped yesterday but it has started again. I feel frustrated as I want to move on and start ttc and I'm not a patient person!

I've been pretty okay emotionally until today and keep on bursting into tears - bad day. Heard some friends of ours have just announced their pg - pleased for them as lovely people but envious at same time. They don't know at our mmc. Been watching sex and the city repeats today and started crying when Charlotte has a mc. I don't normally get that emotional over tv shows!! Sorry to be so depressing....

chocolateteabag Sun 16-Dec-12 22:24:33

Thanks for the replies, am sat snivelling in front of Sports Personality, must still be the hormones as I'm not normally like this

Yorkie - it's so frustrating isn't it and I'm 6 days behind you. Already started to look at when I might ovulate which is so silly as Bump said, may still need an ERPC to get everything out (oh god fx not).

Bakingtins Mon 17-Dec-12 08:05:15

Hi chocolate - think I missed your first post but you are equally as welcome as the other newbies. I'm afraid weeks of bleeding + passing bits of tissue is par for the course with a natural or medically managed miscarriage. It was about 2 weeks bleeding for me both times, then when AF came (cycle about a week longer than normal for me) it was heavier and clotty the first month.
Completely normal to just want to be pregnant again as soon as possible + v frustrating if it doesn't happen as quickly as you'd like. It's very hard emotionally so go easy on yourself. If TTC straight away helps you move forward then go for it, but it's also ok to take a break to recover.

IBelieveInPink Mon 17-Dec-12 08:13:18

Hi chocolate. Hope you are doing okay and feeling a bit better.
Just on the wait/not wait thing (as I think everyone else has covered the rest) I chose to wait 1 cycle and i am very glad I did. Don't get me wrong, drove me nuts having to put it off, but afterwards for me it felt like the right choice as af was so, Erm, not normal that I felt better that had got it out f the way if this makes sense?
However if you really can't wait, there have been lots of people here who get upduffed straight away and all is fine smile

So for me, 2 week wait starts. Must try and be patient. How early is too early to poas?! booze and bump you must be about there too?! I forgot how much I hate this bit!!

Boozeandadietjinglebell Mon 17-Dec-12 09:32:21

Hello to all the new ladies [waves]. I'm sorry for your loss, and sorry you have to be here, but it's a good place to be if you have to be! I'm another advocate for waiting a cycle. I was told by the EPU to wait two months but interpreted that as one cycle. For a few weeks after the mc I didn't want to DtD the deed at all - things only settled down about 3 weeks later for me, and my AF arrived just after 4 weeks after the mc bleeding finished. For me, my first AF post-mc was horrendous. Think I bled as much as the mc and passed all sorts of clots and tissue - I wouldn't like to have kept all that inside me if I'd got pg straight away. But it obviously causes no problem for some people so see how you feel (but be prepared for your first AF!!!).

ibelieveinpink according to my little app I'm due to ov tomorrow. We've been DtD every day since Friday and I've been using the digital clear blue OPKs and no smiley face yet. I think I might be a day of so later than normal. According to the app, next AF is due on 1/1/13, so will test when I come back from the states on the 2/1, if I can resist experimenting with American HPTs (and I actually get an LH surge in the next few days).

Bodice Mon 17-Dec-12 09:38:14

Hubbie back to work this morning so sat in house on own. Feeling a bit more normal today though. Booked myself in for a facial and a pedicure to cheer myself up and keep myself occupied. Will be back in work on Wednesday. Looking forward to things getting back to normal.
Yesterday I went to church, not been for ages but wanted say hello to our vicar that married us 7 months ago ( that seems a lifetime away now). There was a nativity play on which set me off with all those cute kiddies.
Had my biggest cry yet when i got home, just kept coming in waves. I couldn't stop. Poor hubbie just hugged me.

I am going to wait for my AF i think, mostly cos of the tests I want but also because after my last MC my next period wasn't like a normal period, it was much lighter, which makes me think there won't be a proper lining for next baby to settle into if I try now! This is prob a load of rubbish! But makes sense in my head. Want to give it the best chance.

lol good luck in EPAU and don't take a no for an answer off GP.

chocolate hope your feeling better today.

IBelieveInPink Mon 17-Dec-12 09:45:17

booze good work! Haha, I thought we had been doing it every other day, but just thought back and actually it has been every day! Ha! That's a little embarrassing probably should have been paying more attention!

I kinda wish I had done opks now. We didn't, and am now wondering how long to keep going with the apparently every day dtd. Maybe another week?

Boozeandadietjinglebell Mon 17-Dec-12 11:25:48

ibelieveinpink good skills. Conceive plus is really helping with lazy sex with intent!

Have you had any ov symptoms? I feel spotty and horrid and a bit crampy but that might be wind but I may be imagining it. I never noticed ov symptoms until TTC, and now I can't work out how I missed them!!

IBelieveInPink Mon 17-Dec-12 12:28:56

Omg! Is that what it is? I have felt really crampy! But thought I was just being weird!
Haven't noticed any of the usual signs (cm) although a slight bit this morning (sorry, tmi) suggests I am a couple of days late this month. Still trying to work out when to test over Christmas, got to get the right mix between not disappointing myself if I not, and not drinking too much if I am!

Bakingtins Mon 17-Dec-12 13:33:52

((*Bodice*)) it'll do you good to have a weep. I think I've done much better after 2nd miscarriage by just going along with the emotions - be positive and look forward when you are having a good day, have a cry when you feel sad, recognise that the anger of the unfairness of the whole thing and the jealous feelings about others are normal. After first MC I felt like an irrational monster, this time I've recognised the stages and accepted them.
Christmassy things are making me a bit sad too - always have a tear in my eye at a nativity at the best of times, but keep thinking that I should be 6 months pregnant right now and sporting a big bump with a spring baby to look forward to (and spend Christmas being waited on instead of being expected to do everything!)

Can I just add an off-topic moan? I'm worried about my Mum - she has been diagnosed with glandular fever but also has some abnormalities in her blood cells (she either didn't know or wouldn't tell me what) and hepatitis. She's nearly 70 and I've seen plenty of young fit people knocked for six for months with glandular fever without any of the complications. She has more tests tomorrow. sad I've sent her a Christmas wreath with sprouts in (family joke) but I feel a bit helpless as we're 200 miles away.

BumpKitty Mon 17-Dec-12 15:10:47

hi pink welcome to the 2ww! I don't think i'll be in the running this time, with everything that's going on DH and i have only dtd once! (it was yesterday - i wooed him with 'shall we have some entirely functional sex?' grin
Also I did one opk the other day and it only came up with the test line; that means it's faulty doesn't it? Booze I know what you mean re ovulation signs - I thought I didn't have any till I actually started trying to look for them! I'm just not very in touch with my body.

I've come home from work early, my job is appointment based and I had appointments all morning which is good as I can just get on with them but then I had nothing booked in this afternoon. I had a chat with my boss and told him my mum hasn't got long left and he basically said to do what I need to do. He is such a good boss, which is a godsend at the moment (my last boss was an uncaring witch).
Bpeanut to see the photos just click on my name then select the photos link
Bodice I echo the advice of if you need a good cry just go for it. I haven't been taking this advice myself but when I do have a good cry it does make me feel better.
messtins sorry about your mum, does she have family near to her or good friends? Hopefully she will keep you informed and tell you if she needs help xxx

In more unrelated news I just rescued a dog grin when i arrived home there was a dog wandering around in my street, near a busy road. I went to check if he had a collar but he didn't so I went home and asked DH what to do, we thought he might have been abandoned as he looked pretty old and doddery. I decided I'd go and catch him and put him in my garden then ask the neighbours/call the animal shelter. Luckily as I was herding him down the road one of my neighbours came out and said she knew who he belonged to, so she lent me a lead and I returned him home. That's my Christmas good deed!
Also, I got to work this morning to find 2 raffle prizes on my desk. I had won..... an ice scraper and a tub of men's hair molding mud - this is what lottery winners must feel like!

chocolateteabag Mon 17-Dec-12 17:50:57

Wow Bump - an icescraper and hair product grin that would be my christmas pressies for DH sorted!

Our boiler has been off since Friday night, have been at FIL's over the weekend but spent today alternating between overheating in the snug wih woodburner on or frezzing in the rest of the house. Boiler man has just been to look at it and has to come back tomorrow with a different part. Damn DH and his grand ideas that he could service it himself angry

Have been feeling like I'm getting flu today so called my EPU again (worried myself about infection - I need to step away from Google) and she brought my scan forward to tomorrow afternoon to check I've passed everything etc. So feel alot better that will at least know what is going on tomorrow rather than waiting til the 28th

Boozeandadietjinglebell Mon 17-Dec-12 17:55:02

chocolate poor you without a boiler! You must be freezing. I came down with everything going after my mc - cold, flu etc - the EPU told me my defences would be down so I guess it was that. Some of me wondered if I felt so ill because she'd told me I might!

Feel better soon smile

yorkiebilb Mon 17-Dec-12 19:18:13

chocolate really pleased you've managed to get a scan tomorrow and don't have to wait until after Xmas.

BumpKitty Mon 17-Dec-12 21:14:01

ooh ace news on the scan chocolate remember to drink lots (I forgot EVERY time!). But, thinking about it, they actually scanned me with the internal camera for a better view EVERY time! Hope it goes well fx

literaryone Tue 18-Dec-12 05:22:25

All the pregnant ladies, all the pregnant ladies! Gld things are going well.

Hello, newbies -- sorry you have to be here and for whatever you've gone through or are going through. Hugs.

I've had a rubbish couple of days -- highly stressed out because of work, and two things happened to set me off grieving again. One, one of those damn BabyCentre emails about your pregnancy week-by-week (I subscribed at around 15 weeks) turned up suddenly in my inbox (after my setting a filter to delete them because I couldn't find a way to unsubscribe) and reminded me that my pregnancy "is now 33 weeks!" No, it isn't. Two, I met up with a friend who was passing through this city and had lunch with him, during which he talked ad nauseum about his baby daughter, asked me repeatedly about work and never once asked me how we're doing after the miscarriage -- and this is the first time we're meeting after it, and he's the person who talked quite knowledgably about TTC and cervical mucous once, so I didn't think wimmin stuff would be off limits. I guess one has to write some people off at certain times and get back in touch when feeling less fragile.

Boozeandadietjinglebell Tue 18-Dec-12 08:14:37

I. Hate. OPKs. Still no sodding smiley. I may have missed it by testing with FMU every day, or I may be on for a long cycle, but I'm bored and tired from all the sex

In other news, I'm going to try and take the Laura Ashley skirt back today.

Bakingtins Tue 18-Dec-12 08:17:11

Thanks BKitty. Hoping my dad and all the people my mum spends her time caring for will step up and look after her for a change! We're going up to DH's parents for Christmas but will be visiting mine so can see for myself how she is then.
chocolate hope you get the all clear at your scan. Look after yourself, I've felt pretty run down after the MC - bad skin and a cold to add insult to injury. You need a bit of pampering and TLC.
literary I'm sorry your friend is crap.
I think I'm ovulating early this cycle, though I'm only on CD9 had loads of EWCM so DH is on duty earlier than advertised. Will keep up the good work and hope for some good news in the New Year... grin

literaryone Tue 18-Dec-12 08:37:07

bakingtins, that's crap about your mum. It gets to be a major worry with any illness at that age. Hoping her test results from today come back okay, at least.

Bump, nice on the dog and the prizes!

Booze, Not so nice on the lack of smiley faces. sad

I think this miscarriage has taught me that some people are fair-weather friends and will not be arsed to even say a couple of sympathetic things when life is difficult. Sad realization but I feel fortunate that only four people are in this category and there are many who have been so very supportive.

BaublesForSally Tue 18-Dec-12 10:01:34

bakingtins sorry about your mum and the general sadness. I'm finding Christmas stuff incredibly emotional too - went to a carol service on Sunday and had a proper weepy meltdown.

literary I guess it's good to know... still pretty crap though.

chocolate good luck with your scan, hope it's good news.

I am completely shunning all cycle-monitoring this time. I've lost my thermometer (HOW?) and am going to be spending so much time all over the country/up late/getting up at funny times this month I don't think temping would be particularly useful anyway. Just going to have a month of not thinking about it and having a nice restful Christmas. Today is my last day of work until January, WOOHOO.

chocolateteabag Tue 18-Dec-12 14:29:44

Phew - scan was ok - everything has gone!
Was advised to wait for AF before ttc-ing again but when I asked why was told that physically I'm good to go, but "emotionally might need to recover" hmm
so have already decide to "forget" that advice and now waiting for a BFN - which is just the weiredest thing to do!

Re friends - those that knew I was pg have been great, but FIL & MIL who both called me last week to check I was ok, totally ignored the subject when we saw them on Sunday - never once asked me how I was - which was really odd. But I guess it was their ham fisted way of trying not to upset me.

I am now sat in very warm snug (little stove on) waiting for man to arrive to fix our boiler. Feels like I'm on a sneaky duvet day, except then I remember I'm actually signed off til Thursday

yorkiebilb Tue 18-Dec-12 15:30:01

chocolate pleased to here that the scan went okay and you don't have to have an op.

I'm still bleeding after the erpc and it's been 12 days now since the op. Just wondered whether that is normal? I just want it to end now!

Boozeandadietjinglebell Tue 18-Dec-12 15:43:47

Glad the scan went well chocolate.

With friends I'm a victim of my own behaviour. When it happened I wanted to be alone. I didn't want to talk about it at all. I just wanted to deal with it in my own way.

Now, I need to talk. I need someone to ask me how I am. No one has asked in weeks, and it feels like everyone has forgotten, when a lot of the time, it's all I can think about.

chocolateteabag Tue 18-Dec-12 15:45:25

Hi Yorkie - I would call your EPU up and ask them. Maybe they need to scan you again to check everything came out with the ERPC? If there was nothing there then at least would be peace of mind?

My EPU did say that I could bleed for another couple of weeks even after everything has been passed out so it could just be a waiting game sad

literaryone Tue 18-Dec-12 16:00:35

chocolate, so good to know the scan went well!

Booze, with some of your closer friends, can you just say that you would like to talk? I'm sure they would understand. Talking does help especially if you're worrying or grieving periodically.

yorkie, as chocolate says, it is a waiting game sometimes. Hoping it does stop sooner rather than later so that you feel better. Hugs.

BumpKitty Tue 18-Dec-12 18:12:06

chocolate so please you got the all clear. Hope you get a BFN soon.

booze I'm so glad you're taking the skirt back, I can't stand the thought of you wasting £55! - let us know how you get on

Regarding the friends thing. I think some people are just better at judging when we want to talk and when we don't. I seriously doubt the ones who don't ask us aren't thinking about it and feeling bad for us they just have no idea how to bring it up. Equally it's hard for us if we want to talk about it to know what to say... that's why it's good that we all have each other here smile

AlmondFrangipani Tue 18-Dec-12 19:27:26

Hi Girls,

Well I finally managed to convinced the GP to see me and he referred me to the EPAU this morning for a scan...and I got to see the bean! Luckily it was in the right place (phew no eptopic/cyst) and with a heart beat. My dates werent too far off either, they said I am 6w+5 which is 2 days less than I thought. The weird pains could be pelvis or gass blush. Just got to get to the end of Jan and the 12 weeks now...(all I can think is get me over this ms!).

Chocolate glad you got the all clear on your scan. I was like that waiting for a BFN but it didnt take too long once the bleeding stopped. I sort of ummed and arrhed about TTC straight away again and sort of tried but my cycle was so long we missed ov I think. I then had a mini melt down and decided to wait. I guess what I am saying is just take it day by day!

Booze I was using opk's on the cycle I got pg and didnt get a smiley so just keep DTD regularly and you might catch it!!

Baubles soooo jealous of your long break! I work in the most unfriendly industry and I am working Boxing Day and all sorts so Christmas is cancelled (along with the no drinking) in our house baah humbug!

BumpKitty Tue 18-Dec-12 19:59:51

oh almond that's fab news, yey for the sympathetic GP!

IBelieveInPink Tue 18-Dec-12 22:30:29

almond fab news! Really pleased for you, glad they referred you smile

yorkie depends on the sort of bleeding I think. I pretty much bled on and off until my next af. But it was only heavy for the first 10 to 14 days, then eased off to just a bit every day. If it still heavy after 2 weeks, get checked.

booze I know what you mean. I couldn't handle talking to most of my friends as I didnt really feel they got it. 'there there it will happen soon' didn't really cut it! But a couple really did, and actually the unexpected ones. Try and bring it up when you can, you will soon judge who is able to handle the conversation. Or we are always here for a rant (I know not quite the same as RL, but still)

So, I have already started symptom spotting at 2 dpo. Which may not have even been ov. Do I get some kind of award for this?!

shellshock7 Tue 18-Dec-12 22:59:16

Hi everyone, may I join you please smile

I think this is the same thread I started off on when TTC DS so I am hoping it is lucky for me again. Brief history: Luckily pregnant first month of trying, but MMC at 10 weeks, was very painful physically and emotionally and these boards were a great help. Pregnant again after 3 months with DS born in March smile been TTC for two months and just had another miscarriage at 5.5 weeks, am coping much better than last time (and was nowhere near as painful) had scan and all clear so feel very much ready to start TTC again. As a PP stated was advised to wait a month even tho completely clean, so will only have half hearted attempts over Xmas but will go for it properly in the new year.

Good to read of some pregnancies on the thread already, here's to MANY more smile

Bodice Tue 18-Dec-12 23:13:35

Thanks for messages of support bump and baking.. Feeling better today and going to work tomorrow hopefully. Just realised GP wrote sicknote for two weeks off so need to check I am insured to go in the morning. Nightmare. The Receptionists at GP's were useless. Thought they had sorted me a fit to return note. Seriously why do they make it so hard, I really want to go back.

Just ordered a load of different pregnancy tests off amazon. Bit premature maybe but cheered me up.

Glad scan was OK Chocolate.

Yorkie think light bleeding is OK. I am still bleeding a bit after a week but not gonna worry about it yet.

Hi just a quick one as I'm meant to be sleeping. Hope you're all ok, welcome to all the new faces, sorry you're here, hopefully 2013 will bring lots of well deserved, well incubated babies! Good luck to everyone in the tww. Earliest I've ever got a recognisable bfp is 12dpo. And to everyone waiting to ttc, make the most of the Christmas booze! smile

Brie, how are you? No, I haven't used the test you sent me yet, I've been trying to be good and save it til I get a 3+ but knowing me I'll cave tomorrow morning now grinit should at least be 2-3 by now, right?

Chocolateteabag, you sound like me a few weeks ago. I said the exact same thing "the world fell out of me" it's shocking and horrible, I was really shook up by it for a while. I'm glad you've had a scan now, I was about to say that the period style bleeding continued for me until I lost the sac a couple of days after the main loss, and then the bleeding went immediately much lighter and tailed off entirely after a few days. I got a bfn after a week or two, then a bfp a couple of weeks after that. Hmm, I'm confusing myself now but anyway I'm 5+4, no af in between. I do tend to fall pg scarily easily though, it's keeping them I worry about now! hmm

Everything ok here, no news is good news eh? grin

yorkiebilb Wed 19-Dec-12 00:07:47

Welcome Shell and sorry for your loss. I can vouch for how lovely everyone has been on this thread since I joined.

Thanks all for the advice re the bleeding. It's not heavy any more, just carrying on...I didn't really know what to expect tbh.

Had my first eve out tonight and had some very lovely cherry beer which got me quite tipsy as I haven't had any alcohol recently! grin opened up to one of my best mates about what had happened and he was so lovely - didn't make any comments such as you'll get pregnant again or at least you know you can get pregnant, just said how sorry he was for me and what a crap thing to happen. So nice to talk to a friend about it finally - I thoroughly recommend it to those contemplating whether they should talk to their mates or not.

Anyway, sorry for the long post (think its the cherry beer talking!)

Good look to those ttc at the moment!

literaryone Wed 19-Dec-12 04:15:53

Almond, wonderful news! grin

Shell, so sorry to hear of your loss and I hope you feel physically fine again soon. This is a lovely, supportive thread indeed.

Bodice and Yorkie, hope your bleeding comes to an end soon.

Yorkie, I have to say, some of my most supportive friends have been also the ones I wouldn't have expected to find supportive in this specific situation -- single women uninterested in having children, single men, single gay men specifically! They may not have empathized but they were all outstanding at sympathy and have listened to how I've been talking and tailored their responses accordingly. What has been a bit upsetting is very often the people who have babies on the way or have very young children -- there's been a lot of avoidance on one end of the spectrum, some super-insensitive things said ("How lucky, you can drink now!" and "This was not your time" being among the most annoying, from people who went on to talk and talk and talk about their own pregnancies/babies) and too much of "I don't know how you can be so brave, that's my worst nightmare ever" -- which makes me feel like the poor thwarted thing gritting teeth in the corner with the dead baby, the stuff of nightmare indeed. Whereas the friends who just treat it as something sad that's happened but don't either avoid the issue or overplay the drama are wonderful. It's part of the sadness of normal life for them, not something abnormal. On the whole, I am enormously grateful for my friends.

Yay just caved and got 3+ anyway! Hooray! Thanks again Brie x

Bakingtins Wed 19-Dec-12 08:16:22

* Almond* and James - great news from you both, hope you are feeling a little reassured that things are progressing as they should.

Hi shellshock sorry to hear about your loss.

Literary sounds like your friends have been great. I think it's very hard for people to get it right. I seem to have ended up with a few people who ask me every time they see me if I'm alright (which loosely translated means 'are you pregnant again yet?') but don't actually want to hear anything except 'I'm fine thanks'. I'm largely ok months on, but I still have times when it'd be nice to talk about it. I'm finding Christmas hard, I think it was one of the times I'd allowed myself to imagine - I would be six months pregnant and hopefully in the glowing phase by now. Feeling pretty cheated and can't think of anything I want for Christmas - I want to be safely pregnant, a box of chocolates is not going to cut it!
(sorry - turned into a mini-rant sad )

literaryone Wed 19-Dec-12 08:26:20

Bakingtins, have a tight hug and biscuit. It's hard not to think of what we have lost. I should have been 8 months pregnant now! But I'm not.

BrieMonster Wed 19-Dec-12 08:50:38

Woohoo james sooooooo pleased you got that result! I'm fine thanks.. Plodding along with the nausea and bit of concern about the bleeding but we'll get there. When do you see the midwife?

yorkiebilb Wed 19-Dec-12 09:05:15

Bakingtin rant away - this is the place to do it. I guess some people don't know what to say...when they ask how you are sometimes the obligatory answer to not make them feel awkward is to say I'm fine when inside you're screaming I'm not fine! Hugs to you. Hope you manage to chat to one of your friends that gives you the response you need but we're here as well!

yorkiebilb Wed 19-Dec-12 09:17:11

literary I know exactly what you mean about comments like I think you're so brave, I never would have coped. I lost my brother years ago and I remember my best friend saying to me that she didn't know how I was coping so well and she would never be able to carry on if it happened to her. I remember being really annoyed thinking yes I am get getting on because I have to, what other choice do I have. Some people really need to engage their brains a bit before they speak!

The best one was a comment recently which I had to laugh because its so insensitive. We were supposed to go to Germany to visit some friends (and their children one of which is my other halves god son) day after my op and my other half had to ring his mate up to cancel and explained that I'd had a mc. There was no I'm sorry his mate just said that he couldn't be on the phone for long as it was his mobile and it was costing a fortune! That weekend his mate sent a pic of the godson to my other half with the words 'this is what your missing out on' - he obviously meant the fact we weren't in Germany but it also read otherwise! Come on mate Engage your brain!!!!!

Bakingtins Wed 19-Dec-12 10:03:10

Yorkie that is awful! I'm sure he just wanted to send you an update on the godson until you get another chance to visit but what a poor choice of words....

chocolateteabag Wed 19-Dec-12 10:08:38

oh god Yorkie what a stupid thing to have written! shock

Personally I think I have to give some of my friends the benefit of the doubt. One friend has been a little stand offish (just asked how I was in the way that just wanted an "I'm fine" answer) but then I remembered she had to go through 3 rounds of IVF to get her DS (who is same age as mine) and I don't know if she can even try again. So maybe me being pg then not has stirred up stuff for her.
Then there are the people who will annoy you whatever they say - but then just have to bite my tongue and remember that it's not worth getting any more upset.

Hi Shell - sorry that you are on here too but here's wine to un careful christmas frolics.
James - I read some of your posts last week and really helped me to get through thinking that people do get pg straight afterwards. I know that I am setting myself up for potential disappointment straight away, but I like to have a plan to follow

I forgot to say yesterday - after my scan the midwife/sonographer (she is both) mentioned a TABLET research study - has anyone else been asked about it? I think she only mentioned it as I was being "positive and happy CTB". It's a study on thyroxine levels and whether they impact MC's. Would have to have a blood test to see if I'm eligible and then if I was would be a double blind study (ie wouldn't know if I was taking a placebo or the drug)

Think I'm going to at least have the blood test to see if I'm eligible (it checks your thyroid function so would also check that out too). But maybe that is just so I can have more contact with the Hospital - is that weird?

literaryone Wed 19-Dec-12 10:10:58

Oh dear, yorkie, that's dreadful! He was probably just not thinking at all when he wrote that message. It's strange how some of these things are funny in retrospect but also hurtful even long after they've been said.

I've usually made myself feel better about stupid comments by just trying to understand that people actually don't understand what I'm going through, most of the time, but feel the need to say something because they are trying to make sense of things for themselves. Often, what they say is stupid because our losses are hard to rationalize in that way.

Bakingtins Wed 19-Dec-12 10:30:41

Googled the trial - there's some info on the miscarriage association site and a link to the research site if you scroll down.

yorkiebilb Wed 19-Dec-12 11:14:58

I know he just wasn't thinking and it was a poor choice of words - I had to laugh cos it is so bad. i'm more annoyed that he couldn't say I'm sorry to my other half when he told him but I guess people can be weird in there reactions. what you said literary was spot on.

Chocolate If you can get any tests done that have been offered to you, I say go for it! Will have a look at the link later as I'm sneakily typing this whilst at work!

blundercatsHOHOHO Wed 19-Dec-12 15:32:09

Hello all, and hi to new folks. How's everyone doing?

CD 9 here- feels strange to say that again but hopefully am getting back to normal. No opks or anything here either but going to stick to as regular as possible dtd over the next couple of weeks and we'll see.

Very interesting about that trial. I had a blood test a couple of weeks ago due to feeling naff and they found low thyroid function so I've got to go back again to have it checked in a few months. Guess they think there might be a link there- hope that doesn't mean I'm doomed hmm

littlepinkfizz Wed 19-Dec-12 17:32:50

What are my chances???? Dtd on cd 11 and unlikely to have another chance as DP has fearful toothache?hoping against hope but think I ovulate later than that as had lots of ewcm around then and a few days afterwards.confused

BumpKitty Wed 19-Dec-12 20:38:01

Well lpf the sperm can hang around for up to 5 days so all is not lost. Perhaps you could suggest brandy for the toothache then seduce him?!

hello blunders - i had a blood test today to see if my anaemia has improved - I suspected I had thyroid issues but apparently not. You wouldn't be doomed they can medicate you and get you back on track for getting upduffed grin or if you do get pg before having another test they can medicate you whilst pg.

yey for +3 James

sorry you've been feeling down Btins heres to a NY BFP for you x

Hi choc and almond and brie and yorkie and literary and all those not on this page! smile

It was DD's second birthday yesterday - we had a lovely time and shed loads of presents, she went off to bed happy then woke up at 10.30pm puking her guts up sad she is never sick. Hopefully just a random bug as she hasn't been sick today, just quite sleepy poor little beggar.

littlepinkfizz Wed 19-Dec-12 20:41:58

Laughing at brandy kitty ! Unfortunately the antibiotic he's taking means he can't drink and is in so much pain that he is really cross. Seduction out!

Poor dd Hope she is feeling lots better,the little angel x

blundercatsHOHOHO Thu 20-Dec-12 00:23:36

What about cross angry dtd then pinkfizz?!

Thanks bump, you're right- I have decided its not worth worrying about as I can't do anything about it at the mo. levels were only on the low side of normal anyway, so it might even be ok.

Bad news about DD being poorly though poor thing, hope she feels better soon x

literaryone Thu 20-Dec-12 04:48:17

blundercats, I've been hypothyroid for years and years (16 to be exact) and have been taking the thyroid supplement for 15 years, so it's been under control. I had no problem getting pregnant (well, the first time round -- remains to be seen how everything goes now when we try again) so suggest you don't worry too much about it. Important thing is to get the levels to a normal range so that any potential bub develops properly. Which isn't overly difficult if you're just borderline, from whatever I gather.

Boozeandadietjinglebell Thu 20-Dec-12 08:07:41

Flipping heck. This thread moves fast sometimes! I've been away with work for a couple of days, so no DtD, but came back last night with lovely EWCM, sorry, way TMI and early instructions to DH to not get drunk (last day of term). 7 pints and 3 rum and cokes later he was completely not up to the job. I was absolutely furious, and hated myself for it, because I promised myself TTC would never rule us.

However, he's had a reprieve - smiley face on the OPK this morning grin

Bakingtins Thu 20-Dec-12 08:16:16

Get to it, jinglebell ! I don't think men get it, even if it is explained in words of one syllable. This is the fifth time we are trying to get pregnant so you would think DH, a man of some intelligence, would have got the concept by now. If you are pissed, tired, grumpy or otherwise unavailable on the days I'm fertile then yet another month will go by with no BFP. The day after tomorrow is not good enough!
He's been a good boy this month though - Father Christmas might bring him a gift wink

blundercatsHOHOHO Thu 20-Dec-12 09:15:27

Hi literary, thanks for your wisdom- I know if you're being treated then it's not a problem at all. I was worrying because they only started picking this up so if we conceive in the next few months, I'll still be low and untreated. But- you are right I will not worry and if I do get a bfp, I'll get down the docs to talk about it and maybe they'll monitor me more closely or something. Do they monitor your levels more closely in pregnancy?

booze I would be furious too! This is the first time I've explained to OH about having some idea of when fertile o'clock is (just from dates) and I'm really hopeful he is going to have listened to that and get to it!

literaryone Thu 20-Dec-12 09:42:41

blundercats, my doctors monitored the thyroid very closely during the pregnancy. I am guessing this would be routinely done if thyroid levels are too low because the levels can go even lower in a pregnancy -- the baby is using some of your thyroid hormone, from what I gather, so it often needs to be supplemented. I wouldn't worry, just make sure the doctors know about it if you get a BFP.

IBelieveInPink Thu 20-Dec-12 10:07:17

Booze - I had the same issue the other day. Seriously, several pints later we almost missed a day. Now, while I know it doesnt have to be every day, I am so keen to get it right this month, especially as I was having a few cramps, which may or may not have been ovulation related definitely not implantation cramps at 2dpo according to my app

Managed to keep most of the irrational anger in though so the situation was rectified in the morning.

Wish I had done opks. I have no idea where my cycle is. Argh.

Boozeandadietjinglebell Thu 20-Dec-12 13:37:00

Ha Ibelieveinpink that's exactly what happened this morning. I definitely lost the moral high ground when I had to ask nicely this morning after realising I had a smiley face as there would have been no asking for anything otherwise

I so want to be pregnant in January. And I don't want to have any shoulda woulda couldas!

Boozeandadietjinglebell Thu 20-Dec-12 13:37:28

Ha Ibelieveinpink that's exactly what happened this morning. I definitely lost the moral high ground when I had to ask nicely this morning after realising I had a smiley face as there would have been no asking for anything otherwise

I so want to be pregnant in January. And I don't want to have any shoulda woulda couldas!

IBelieveInPink Thu 20-Dec-12 16:20:36

Unfortunately I seem to have convinced myself that it will happen this month. WILL happen. Don't know if this is good due to positive thinking, or am heading for a massive fall.
symptom spotting still, more cramping. Obviously miracle early implantation and am already upduffed

Boozeandadietjinglebell Thu 20-Dec-12 16:37:10

Ohhhh, me too. Which unfortunately is likely to mean I'm heading for a massive fall in about 2 weeks time!

BelissimaLol Thu 20-Dec-12 18:02:39

Hi girls have been busy at work as tomorrow last day before Xmas. Have mw app tomorrow. Nothing else to report which can be a good sign!
Almond great news in scan. Looks like we are back with a few days dufference!

BumpKitty Thu 20-Dec-12 20:02:06

Hi all, booze and pink I'm having loads of cramping too, some of it quite painful. I don't think I have ovulation pains like this before - I must have released 20 eggs if this is all due to ovulation! I've also had achey boobs, may do another opk in a bit, I think I had a barely there line yesterday (improvement on no line at all which the last two were).
Hope you have a lovely mw Blol x

IBelieveInPink Thu 20-Dec-12 20:52:39

bump weird. Is this some kind of after mc symptom? I'm sure I have never been crampy mid cycle before. not mentioning that it may be due to extreme Christmas over eating in my case!

Boozeandadietjinglebell Thu 20-Dec-12 21:26:05

Nope. Mine was awful. Had two or three days of cramps, then they stopped and I thought I'd missed the surge. Then EWCM last night and a smiley this morning. Weird stabbing pains on my left side today (right side when I fell pg so taking this as a good omen!)

blundercatsHOHOHO Thu 20-Dec-12 22:07:09

Hey guys, I've been a bit crampy too- on the left side for me and very localised so not like af pains. Never noticed them before either, v odd.

Hooray for nothing to report, blol! Hope app goes well.

BumpKitty Thu 20-Dec-12 22:15:02

ooh ok, sounds hopeful how long was there between the cramps stopping and the EWCM?

Boozeandadietjinglebell Thu 20-Dec-12 22:18:51

bumpkitty cramps Sunday to Tuesday and then EWCM Wednesday and smiley on OPK today (still EWCM too)

IBelieveInPink Thu 20-Dec-12 22:22:23

Hmm. I had ewcm at the weekend (exactly when my app said I should!!) and had cramps all weekend and all this week?! Wtf?! I give up. What will be, will be. Until then I will drink wine. Humph. Getting annoyed at stupid body.

Boozeandadietjinglebell Thu 20-Dec-12 22:53:15

Cramps can be before, after or during ovulation - don't worry ibip.

I'm also drinking wine. Not loads, but enough to keep me sane. Can't wait to finish work tomorrow and try and get my life together.

BumpKitty Thu 20-Dec-12 23:19:57

ok sounds like we are all pre, during or post ovulation then grin i think i'll have a Baileys.
DH is on a very late train home due to signal problems so I may be too tired for dtd when he eventually gets home! I wonder if DD will have a lie in
<hollow laugh>

Boozeandadietjinglebell Fri 21-Dec-12 09:40:32

After I got back from Tunisia, mid mc, I stomped around the kitchen demanding hard liquor. I ended up having Bailey's. DH found it hilarious.

AlmondFrangipani Fri 21-Dec-12 13:37:36

To all the cramping ladies I noticed the same thing post mc cycles around ovulation then this time I had cramps for whole week post ov so fx it's a gd sign!

Lol good luck with the mw app! Mines 27th grin

blundercatsHOHOHO Fri 21-Dec-12 14:00:54

Oh god I got offered that job...ttc quandary! Or...just ignore it and carry on as usual and only worry about things when they happen!

blundercatsHOHOHO Fri 21-Dec-12 17:27:24

I now have uncomfortable af-y cramps and some colour in cm. I have a feeling my cycles are far from back to normal. How's everyone today?

Boozeandadietjinglebell Fri 21-Dec-12 17:41:22

Hi blunder when could you start the job if you take it?

My cramps have stopped but this morning I had stabbing pains that took my breath away. Lasted a couple of minutes. Wonder if that was ov.

blundercatsHOHOHO Fri 21-Dec-12 17:45:41

Hi booze, youch those cramps sound horrible. Strange eh? No colour in your cm though?

Would start beginning of Feb I think, so that would mean ideally I wouldn't get a bfp til after then. Which probably wouldn't happen of course but.... God nothing's ever simple eh?!

Boozeandadietjinglebell Fri 21-Dec-12 17:54:41


Oh, that's a really tough one. At your current job would you just get statutory after six weeks? What about the new job (although good luck asking that at this point!!).

I guess it's not long to wait, not really, but I don't think I could turn off 'trying'. How does the package compare/job satisfaction and enjoyment?

Boozeandadietjinglebell Fri 21-Dec-12 17:55:23

Oh, and sad news ladies....

The Laura Ashley skirt was returned today. I am now £55 richer! grin

blundercatsHOHOHO Fri 21-Dec-12 18:01:30

The LA!! Farewell to that- bet it was a relief to see it gone eh?

Yeah both jobs would be 90% salary followed by statutory. As I understand it, if I get pregnant before I start the new one then I would miss out on that 6 weeks and just get 'maternity allowance'

In terms of other aspects this new one looks like a much better, happier I accepted it late this afternoon! Like you though, I just don't know if I could bear to actively not be ttc even for just a few weeks. I think we might just keep going and if it happens this month then I'll just deal with it. Chances are it won't anyway eh?!

Has everyone finished work now?

Boozeandadietjinglebell Fri 21-Dec-12 18:21:37

You never know, new job might make you deliriously happy, and alleviate any job related stress, and therefore super fertile?! Congratulations!

I finished work today, and not back until the 3rd as we don't get back from America until the 2nd. Feel like a massive weight's been lifted off my shoulders - work has been really stressful for the last few months.

blundercatsHOHOHO Fri 21-Dec-12 18:40:47

Hooray to finishing work and america sounds really exciting! You there for chrimble?

BlingJingleJanie Fri 21-Dec-12 18:53:57

Blunder Ah congrats on the new job! New start sounds great smile I feel a very positive 2014 smile

And yay for getting your money back booze farewell to the famous skirt! I'll never look at LA in the same way ever again!!!

I also finished work today and came home tonight and totally conked out on the sofa! Can't wait for some lie ins (and extra dtd opportunities!!) got some cheapo ovulation tests on eBay so I'm hoping that my cycles might be a big more normal than before mc. I read somewhere that the d&c can help a bit. Can't be bothered with 50 day cycles again!

X x

Boozeandadietjinglebell Fri 21-Dec-12 18:55:18

At my mum and dad's for Christmas Day and then off to America on Boxing Day. Having a bit of a road trip from Texas through Louisiana and Mississippi to Florida, and then back through Alabama to New Orleans for New Years. Am really hoping this will be the quickest 2ww ever!

yorkiebilb Fri 21-Dec-12 20:02:16

Ooh Booze your holiday sounds fab! We're off to New Orleans in Feb as part of our honeymoon trip so if you have some good tips when you return please let me know!

yorkiebilb Fri 21-Dec-12 20:03:08

Blunder congrats on the new job!

Boozeandadietjinglebell Fri 21-Dec-12 20:05:06

yorkie at the very least I'll have some books I can post you. Where else are you going? We're there for three nights and so far only have NFL tickets and a booking at Commanders Palace planned. I think for NYE we're just going to hang out and then watch the fireworks at midnight because hopefully by then I'll have all manner of pg symptoms and so won't want a big night out

chocolateteabag Fri 21-Dec-12 20:11:28

Oh shitty hell!
Our boiler has been installed illegally and needs to be relocated. Won't be sorted until January and will be £1k to fix.
DH is livid as it's the same plumber who did our shower which he also messed up. He is (was) Corgi registered. DH is muttering about sueing him

Just what we needed, extended stay with inlaws through Christmas and new year! At least we are at my mums til Christmas eve!

Can anything else go wrong? Actually it probably can so won't tempt fate!

yorkiebilb Fri 21-Dec-12 20:30:50

Thanks Booze! Off to Las Vegas, New Orleans, Memphis and Nashville. I can't wait! grin

Boozeandadietjinglebell Fri 21-Dec-12 20:40:22

yorkie we went to Vegas for last NYE. Where are you staying? Have lots of tips for there too as I went for work in October 2011 as well - will write everything down for you at some point.

chocolatetea sounds horrendous. Is there any chance the plumber will reimburse you without going down the suing route? It would probably work out cheaper for him than legal action. It's horrid. We've just had our kitchen done and the underfloor heating was fitted incorrectly and burnt out. He ripped the floor up and relaid it (replacing the underfloor heating) at his own expense, and that was bad enough. For you, with boilers, and people who shouldn't be doing them, I don't know what to suggest. Is there an ombudsman for this kind of thing? Did he show you his corgi certificate?

BumpKitty Fri 21-Dec-12 23:08:29

Evening all

Congratulations on the new job blunders how nice to know before Christmas smile I'd definitely just get on with ttc if I was you as who knows what life will bring.

booze I'm delighted about the skirt ( I must get a life! ) I had an amusing vision of it being snapped up on Christmas Eve for some poor woman by her deluded DH grin and your trip sounds great and yours too yorkie who knows you could have a honeymoon baby smile

chocolate that is crap, still at least he is registered with corgi (gas safe) as surely that's who you go to to complain about him, it must carry some kind of guarantee or why bother having the system. Hopefully you can get it sorted without it costing you anything - but I don't envy you with Christmas at the in laws grin still you can always come and vent to us!

blundercatsHOHOHO Sat 22-Dec-12 01:32:55

booze your trip sounds absolutely fantastic, and what a way to spend a tww for distraction eh?! Love it.

yorkie, yours too- how lovely! Honeymoon tho? When is or was wedding?!

chocolate, what a nightmare. Like the others say, is there some comeback for this? and why choose the same guy again if he was shoddy the last time?! I really hope you manage to sort it out, boilers are expensive and not fun at all.

yorkiebilb Sat 22-Dec-12 11:27:49

apologies for the delay in responding. At my folks and they have no signal where they live.

chocolate sorry to hear about the boiler. Sounds like a nightmare you don't need at the mo. As bump says if he is corgi registered you should be able to pursue some kind of claim or sort something out through them.

Booze we are stopping at the MGM Grand. Have you stopped there? Again tips would be great!

Bump here's hoping on a honeymoon baby!

blunder wedding was back in July but we decided it might be nice to go somewhere Feb when the weather was rubbish in the UK. Problem is we might end up moving house in Feb as well so could end up being a pretty crazy month!

BelissimaLol Sat 22-Dec-12 11:56:45

Congrats on job blunder. Like the idea of playing it by ear. If yuh get pg you deal with it!
Off to the in laws for a week and will tell them today about pg. A bit excited and nervous!

blundercatsHOHOHO Sat 22-Dec-12 12:36:56

Oo good luck blol, lovely to share some good news! Did they know about the last one?

york that sounds like a great idea having honeymoon during dreary winter here. But yep moving house too- that will be a crazy but fun time!

BelissimaLol Sat 22-Dec-12 13:38:56

We told them on the day I mc'd as we were due to go up to see them that weekend. Then MIL and SIL came down to see me instead as my mum is 5000 miles away!

blundercatsHOHOHO Sat 22-Dec-12 13:55:02

Ah that was nice of them. So they'll understand the extra emotion with this one as well then x

Boozeandadietjinglebell Sat 22-Dec-12 17:15:24

Aw Blol that's lovely. I should have been 12 weeks on Christmas Eve and I was planning all manner of creative ways to tell people.

yorkie no, not been to the MGM grand but I know where it is. We stayed at the Mirage last NYE and the Aria for work. When I get chance I'll write some ideas of things to do down.

bump I was glad to see the back of that flipping skirt too. I wouldn't have minded but it didn't actually fit me!

I have abandoned my dry 2ww. Not going crazy, but not abstaining. Is that awful?

blundercatsHOHOHO Sat 22-Dec-12 17:48:17

I don't do dry twws I'm afraid so of its terrible then I am terrible too. I figure that changing my lifestyle in that way would only add to the pressure and I don't need that! I know it's probably a good idea to be as healthy as possible when ttc, but for me mental health is part of that and I live a glass of wine!

blundercatsHOHOHO Sat 22-Dec-12 17:48:33

Love not live...

Boozeandadietjinglebell Sat 22-Dec-12 18:02:58

blunder that's pretty much my philosophy. I figure if symptoms start in earnest before AF is due (ie I'm throwing up) then I'll stop, but until then I'm not going to change anything. Don't want to sit here in January still not pg feeling bitter about 'missing out' on mulled wine and champagne on Christmas Day. God, I sound like an alcoholic.

blundercatsHOHOHO Sat 22-Dec-12 18:07:19

Yeah I'm the same booze (ha! The irony). As well as the missing out aspect, if I start doing things differently like that it will only make me think about ttc more, which can't possibly help!

Boozeandadietjinglebell Sat 22-Dec-12 18:31:04

I know. My name is so changing in January when I lose the Christmas bits! I sound like a bad mother and a prime candidate for a baby with FAS.

Cheers blunder wine

blundercatsHOHOHO Sat 22-Dec-12 18:35:50

Cheers lady wine

I've been a right boozer these last few weeks. Terrible!

littlepinkfizz Sat 22-Dec-12 21:55:18

Feeling really down. Should have been due mud January but had mmc at 13.5 weeks after 7 weeks of horrendous morning sickness and ante natal depressin. Can't help feeling jealous still of heavily pregnant women and I keep thinking, I should be big and beautiful and blooming like you. Instead I'm still try to conceive and probably unlikely to now due to my age.

Sorry for the rant. I just needed to let off steam.

I wish you all a very happy Christamas and fertile 2013 x

BumpKitty Sat 22-Dec-12 22:20:51

Oh lpf don't apologise, it is crap and very unfair and you have every right to feel sad and pissed off. I really hope you get pg again soon xx

It seems I will be cooking Christmas dinner (this is not going to end well). My DB, SIL and kids (5 and 1) will be joining us. DH has been at the supermarket for over 1.5 hours now - I'm beginning to worry!

wine to blunder and booze I have no idea if I have ovulated or not so I haven't started my 2ww and even when I have I will be continuing to drink - but not loads.

yorkie I've been to the MGM we didn't stay there but went in to have a look at the lions, actually I think DH stayed there when he went before he knew me. I think he enjoyed it - I'll ask him if he ever returns from the shops!

blol hope you're having a lovely time with your delighted in laws grin

blundercatsHOHOHO Sat 22-Dec-12 22:36:08

Oh fizz its just shit isn't it. It is totally understandable to feel like this though and to find other pregnancies hard to be near. Have a good rant about it here if you need to and don't feel sorry for doing it- this is the place that you can!

bump, wine - sounds like you'll need it while cooking! How are you doing?

I'm on cd 11 and no idea what my body's up to so am just carrying on and not worrying too much. Obviously with this new job there is an advantage to not getting bfp this month (or next), which gives me a silver lining either way.

blundercatsHOHOHO Sat 22-Dec-12 23:27:08

Now got some bleeding here. No idea what's going on! Presume that it's just my poor messed up body.

Boozeandadietjinglebell Sun 23-Dec-12 08:19:58

Hmmm blunder. When had AF stopped? Is it much blood? Any chance it's your cervix irritated from too much DtD?!?


blundercatsHOHOHO Sun 23-Dec-12 09:26:08

Af stopped last Saturday, and we dtd 3 times since then- mon and tues and then then Thurs, so not loads!

There's quite a lot of it now, had to put a pad on in the night. That can't have been an 11 day cycle could it?! Dunno what's going on.

Boozeandadietjinglebell Sun 23-Dec-12 10:54:59

My friend had really short cycles after her pregnancy, so maybe? What does Dr Google say?

I feel like I've been kicked in the stomach. well aware I sound like a 6 yo my ex best friend (long story, DH and I separated for a little while at the beginning of the year, she said she wouldn't take sides and she would be there for me whatever I decided; and ended up doing neither and being quite vitriolic) is pregnant. DH told me this morning as he saw her DH last night. Her scan is the 2nd Jan so she will be due on or around my EDD. DH said he expected swearing, but not what he got, which was about an hour of wailing and feeling sorry for myself, then feeling like a bitch for reacting so horribly. I wish he hadn't told me and I'd found out in the new year. It's so funny to think that we used to do everything together and we would have had pfbs together too I think I miss her a bit too even though I wouldn't admit it Sorry for ranting. I'm aware it's horribly selfish, it just caught me completely unawares.

blundercatsHOHOHO Sun 23-Dec-12 11:35:16

Oh dear booze, I know this kicked in the stomach feeling entirely. It's horrible and it really hurts and then feeling like you shouldn't feel like it hurts too and altogether it's just shitty. Do you think you'll get back in contact?

Dr google just takes me to a lot of other discussion boards, many of which are women with a few days of mid cycle bleeding, particularly after mc do I hope it's just one of those things. Not sure if I'm back to cd 2 now or 12, I guess I'll just see how long it lasts for.

Bakingtins Sun 23-Dec-12 12:52:00

Hugs for fizz and booze it's really hard to be confronted with what you feel should rightfully be yours.
Two of my colleagues had babies the week I MC, and one brought her lovely daughter along to our Christmas do - cue everyone talking about babies all night sad Totally blameless in it all as none of them know, but had to endure quite a lot of "so would you like another?" "ah, makes me broody" etc

blundercatsHOHOHO Sun 23-Dec-12 14:42:46

hmm tins as well.

Anyone poas in the near future? Could do with some more heartening news on here eh?!

Boozeandadietjinglebell Sun 23-Dec-12 16:54:32


blunder I've tried for the last few months to put it behind us. I don't think we'd ever have gone back to how we were, but for the sake of a lot of mutual friends it would have been easier, but she hasn't reciprocated. I've congratulated her by text and she replied asking me to keep it quiet as they haven't had the scan yet. Yep. Because I want to shout this news from the rooftops!! I replied not sure why but hope she might bear it in mind when she does her big announcement saying I understood, and that that day was supposed to be my scan day too. As I said, not sure what I wanted to achieve, maybe thought it would appeal to the friend in her, but just got a terse 'we didn't know you were pg and so don't know what's gone on' text. Oh well. I do need a new girlfriend maybe I'll find one at an antenatal class

blundercatsHOHOHO Sun 23-Dec-12 17:03:39

Youch. That is defensive and not friendly at all when you offered an olive branch and some sad news of your own. I see what you mean about not reciprocating, but it's more than that, it's just plain unfriendly. Poor you hun hmm

Have a wine? x

Boozeandadietjinglebell Sun 23-Dec-12 17:28:28

Thanks for the wine blunder bloody hell, I'm high maintenance at the moment aren't I? Thanks for being there, and for the moral support - really is very very much appreciated xx

How's the weird AF?

yorkiebilb Sun 23-Dec-12 19:40:51

Booze not high maintenance in the slightest. It's tough to hear other peoples happiness when you've been through a shitty time and you are trying to be as nice as you possibly can.

I had my first night out with my mates last night and it was tough. My mate who was very drunk kept on asking me if I was pg and checking my drinks to see if they had alcohol in it...then just said to me 'well why aren't you pg yet then?'. I said I didn't want to talk about it and then felt guilty because she is going through a rough time as has recently lost her mum. My other mate started questioning me until he gave up and then started showing me all the pics on his phone and video clips of his little boy! I then decided to stop people from asking me by buying sambuccas for everyone including me!!! Needless to say my head hurts today!!

BumpKitty Sun 23-Dec-12 20:17:11

God aren't we all having a shit time sad maybe the universe will balance out by giving us all lovely cuddly babies in 2013 - it better bloody had do!

Since my mum has been really ill she keeps winning on the premium bonds, only £25 a time but roughly twice a week and my dad has had a few too. If the universe wants to mitigate for terminal illness its going to take a lot more than a few wins on ernie. It is funny though as after my granddad died he kept winning on the premium bonds too for ages afterwards.

Booze when I read your first post I was in the mindset of why not just put it all behind you and be friends again but her text was just heartless, I wouldn't waste another moment of your time thinking about her (I realise this is easier said than done) and anyway your baby will be much prettier grin

yorkie what a weird thing to say! (the why aren't you pg yet) people really are odd. I think you did very well to not tell them all to fuck off with their insensitive questions. Sambucas envy not envy!

bakingtins I really know where you're coming from, I get the 'would you like another one?' question too from colleagues who also know nothing of the mc - It's such a normal and innocent question but makes me feel a little sick each time sad hopefully we'll soon be pg again and exchange these questions for all the impertinent ones you get when expecting!

BumpKitty Sun 23-Dec-12 20:19:12

and hi to blunders too, sorry you're still having a WTF time xx

Bakingtins Sun 23-Dec-12 21:03:13

I'm off to MIL's tomorrow so will be off the radar for a bit. Just wanted to wish you all a very merry wine (for those not pg) / happy smile Christmas. Thanks for being there - you've helped me through a couple of crappy months.
Onwards and upwards - here's to lovely healthy babies for us all in 2013! Brooking no arguments (to quote mumsnet) you all have 4 months to get a 2013 bus.... grin

IBelieveInPink Mon 24-Dec-12 00:34:41

Hi all. Am at the inlaws at the moment so hard to check in. But so sorry to see everyone is having a sucky time at the moment.

Booze, please don't even waste another txt on that so called friend. Not worth your time.

Bump, am loving your karma theory! Yay 2013!

Yorkie, I also did my first night out, and unfortunately had a few too many Vinos. To those discussing it I am also of the opinion don't change your life in the 2ww! Hence a bit of a head hurt yesterday! Oops.

Baking, merry Christmas to you too!

And hi to everyone else I have missed. (sorry, on phone!) To whoever asked about poas, af is due for me on 29th. So am now on countdown to poas. Eeek.

blundercatsHOHOHO Mon 24-Dec-12 09:46:33

Hi all, hope everyone's ok today.

Hey booze, yep i agree with the others, sadly it seems like its time to draw a line under that friendship if you can The wtf af continues here. No idea what it's all about.

yorkie that's such a strange comment- why aren't you pg yet?! Good work with the sambucca distraction though!

bump that is so strange about the premium bonds isn't it. Like you say that's a crap if it's supposed to be some sort of karma though. Your cuddly babies comment made me smile, I'll wine to that.

pink eep! Not long then! Any SS?

baking four months?! That's frightened me now, it doesn't seem long enough, otherwise it'll be a 2014 one?! Oh god.

IBelieveInPink Mon 24-Dec-12 11:07:35

Blunder no, not long, and I already have a cb digi at the ready. Just trying to think about when to do it, can anyone remember how sensitive the cb digis are?
Some ss. Not loads, as to be fair the first time round I had NO symptoms at all, which was what made me think it wasn't that month! But have had some cramping, but feels a bit different... Like... Stretching perhaps. Like last time. And need to pee constantly. Had to get up in the night last night for the first time in ages.
In a way I kinda hope it is not though. Have been very bad and not acting like a TTC person at all (hello prosecco, ooh pate, yes please) do would be worried I broke it if I am!!!!

blundercatsHOHOHO Mon 24-Dec-12 12:00:55

Oo pink that does sound promising <rubs hands together with glee>

Basically I'm sure we're all going to worry whatever we've been up to beforehand so I'm still voting on a bfp for you! Not sure about sensitivity of the digis though...

EllaRees Mon 24-Dec-12 13:59:07

Hi there ladies, I hope you don't mind me joining in late in the day. It was just a relief to read the thread as I've been going through a MC too and am feeling very sad as christmas plays out so differently to how I had imagined.

My DS is 2 and a bit, and I was expecting a second so we went along to our 12 week scan pretty reassured by the morning sickness etc only to be told it was an anembryonic pregnancy, and I went back 2 days later for an ERPC (6 Dec). I feel so bad as all DS's little friends now have younger siblings and he has said he would like one too. I was going to wait a cycle but felt physically back to normal so we've started DTD again just over 2 weeks on from the ERPC. Good luck and happy christmas to you all.

yorkiebilb Mon 24-Dec-12 15:08:56

Welcome Ella

Struggling to read previous comments on my phone as travelling from one end of the country to the other. Hope you all have a lovely relaxing Xmas as free as possible from any awkward comments and weird questions about pg! Good luck to all those ttc and to those waiting for their AF. Here's to some 2013 babies/BFP's for us all! Congrats to those already pg. Happy Christmas all! smile

Boozeandadietjinglebell Mon 24-Dec-12 16:08:58

Four months for cuddly 2013 babies?! Bring it on...

Thanks for all being so lovely. Yes, this has been the final straw. I'm actually thankful that DH told me when he did. I'm calmer today, and want to get as much shit into 2012 as I can. New start next week! bump I love you for saying my baby will be prettier than hers. It may be petty but it made me smile yesterday when not many other things did!

ibelieveinpink exciting stuff! I'm trying not to think about it. I'm 4 days post +OPK today, so maybe 3 dpo. We DtD the morning of the +, and that night, so hopefully that's enough - on Friday I was so tired I went to bed at 8! I'm doing my normal SS even though implantation wouldn't even have happened yet. Argh.

Hi Ella [waves]

Happy Christmas to everyone and happy new year if I'm not on much over the next week. Not sure how many of our hotels have wifi. Will be thinking of you all though (and making notes for yorkie)

chocolateteabag Mon 24-Dec-12 23:21:23

Happy Christmas (almost) Everyone!
And hi Ella
Am at the outlaws now - possible indefinitely if we don't get boiler sorted - so although they have wifi, limited MN opportunities unless I develop a dicky tummy grin
So hope you all have a lovely time and will be back soon to catch up properly

Thank you all for being there for me so far- has been a huge help over past couple of weeks xx

Bumpkinmunchkin Tue 25-Dec-12 01:52:08

Just wanted to wish you all a happy Christmas. To all the mum to be a healthy and happy pg. To all ttcers hope that elusive bfp is only around the corner in 2013.

literaryone Tue 25-Dec-12 06:57:56

Popping in to wish everyone much love and peace and comfort this Christmas season. I blubbed last night during the service when the priest talked about the little child being a symbol of hope of renewal. And prayed for all of you and for happiness in the next year.


BelissimaLol Tue 25-Dec-12 09:52:28

Hope u all have a lovely day. Let Xmas wash away the sadness and bring hope of healthy happy pregnancies to all of us!

NotSpartacus Tue 25-Dec-12 23:34:06

Hello, can I join? Bakingtins told me about this thread.
I had an erpc 10 days ago after discovering our baby no longer had a heartbeat at around 8 weeks. I was very upset but it is starting to seem as though it happened ages ago already - perhaps that is the effect of being so busy over christmas.
I'm 37, have 2 dcs. Dh and I wanted one more. I had two ectopics and a cp before my DD2 and I have one fallopian tube so getting pg = a bit lucky really. I was always scared of another ectopic- it never occured to me I would miscarry, especially not once I had seen a heartbeat. But something about the scan I had at 6 weeks made me worried (not sure what) so I booked another. I had been feeling really sick that day and very very bloated so thought it would be ok. Funny how those symptoms went away very soon after I found out about the mc.
It does feel as though the universe it telling me to give up, but I always saw my 39th birthday as the cut off so will try until 9 months before then.
It's nice to meet the rest of you. Good luck to everyone in the 2ww. Let's hope for a last quarter of 2013 filled with stunningly lovely babies smile

Boozeandadietjinglebell Wed 26-Dec-12 03:35:32

Hello notspartacus I'm sorry for your loss, and sorry you find yourself here.

I can't tell you how lovely and supportive a little thread this is. I am very very grateful to everyone here for getting me through the tough days, and listening to the various rants and raves, and just well, getting 'it'. I hope we can do the same for you.

BombasticPeanut Wed 26-Dec-12 20:48:14

Hello all, just popping by to say merry belated Christmas! Out at the family ranch in deepest darkest Yorkshire, not a lot of signal to speak of. Hope you've all had a good festive season, I can't read most of what's gone on recently but will catch up at some point!

Lots of slightly late Christmas cheer - BFP'ers, fret not - I drank all your booze grin


Boozeandadietjinglebell Wed 26-Dec-12 22:16:49

Hello from Texas. I've had a lovely 10.5 hour flight during which I largely entertained myself by poking my nipples to check they were still sore

I hate the 2ww. Bloody everything is a symptom. Considering POAS on NYE so as to contain any more bad news in 2012. AF should have been due the 1st but I ov'ed 2 days later than I should have done, so maybe due about the 3rd. Still, if I can find some American hyper sensitive HPTs then I should be okay for NYE?

So far the symptoms I have from last time are achey legs at night, nausea in the evening, and very little CM. This time though I also have very sore, erect and bumpy (sorry, TMI) nipples. I'm taking this to be a good sign.

IBelieveInPink Thu 27-Dec-12 00:29:02

booze those sound like promising symptoms! How exciting! NYE , definitely poas. I wouldn't be able to hold back. Imagine the happy new year if it is good news! And if it isn't, you don't have to worry about celebrating a bit too much smile

I poas on Xmas day. 4 days before af due. Bfn. I know everyone will say there is still time, but it was a cb digi, so should have shown up if I was. I am moving on to january. And will be celebrating new year drowning my sorrows with lots of prosecco.

chocolateteabag Thu 27-Dec-12 11:17:00

Hello everyone, recovering from another hangover today (celebrating a little too much I think).
IBIP - I don't think CB digi's are that sensitive - I didn't get a BFP until 14DPO last time, and read on here that was common. So will be the first annoying git to say it's not too late grin

Booze very excited for your NYE POAS, I am not sure if I have ovulated since natural MC 15 days ago but have been forcing DH to DTD every other night since I stopped bleeding (he's not known what has hit him lol) not gong to use any OPKs this time and just see what happens. Which means I have no idea when my DPO days will start and therefore no idea when to POaS

We are still at in laws, they have gone out for the day and I can't find anything in the house for DS to eat except toast and chocolate. We've run out of milk too. And we are in the middle of no where, no shops for at least 10 miles. Waiting for DH to come back from errands so we will have some freedom this afternoon. Neeeeeeed a latte and got to the point that Tesco is looking exciting

Bodice Thu 27-Dec-12 15:16:54

Hey everyone, dropped of the radar for a while.

Booze they sound like encouraging signs. I had achng legs last pregnancy which was bizarre.

Rubbish Christmas all round this year. If my 2nd miscarriage wasn't enough to ruin 2012 to top things off my parents are splitting up and my dad has also fallen out with my sister and her stupid husband. So had to deal with my weeping mother on Christmas eve (sounds insensitive but I have had to deal with this for far too long and am fed up with it now). And had just my dad just round on Christmas morning as well as on boxing day, round at inlaws in evening - felt guilty about leaving him in the house on his own but it would all have been a bit awkward if we brought him. Am hoping for a better 2012.

Me and hubby have got the house to ourselves finally this afternoon and after a long wait DTD. But (sorry if TMI) used the withdrawl method - not the safest I know. I am starting to get impatient already waiting for AF. I said I was gonna wait but already weakening. What are peoples opinions on TTC straight after D&C?

blundercatsHOHOHO Thu 27-Dec-12 18:46:29

Hi everyone, and happy Christmas to all.

Sorry to see you here, not... We are a lovely bunch though so you're in a good place for support.

booze, looks promising! Keep us posted.

ibelieve there is still hope but I understand you getting yourself mentally prepared to get pissed for new year and move on to next cycle.

choc hope you managed to get some food and your brew

bodice, that sounds shite miserable, you poor thing. Bloody families. In ref to your other question, we just cracked on straight after erpc - I just thought I'd let nature sort it out. As it turns out that wasn't af for me as I've had bleeding and other wtf things since I had no chance anyway! But yeah I was pretty chilled about it and felt better to be back in the game.

Have just bought cheap opks off amazon. Anyone got experience of using? I understand it can be a bit complicated?

longbath Thu 27-Dec-12 19:41:14

Hi everyone and hope you had good Xmas. Or as good as possible under the circumstances. I'm probably not in the right place as I'm not TTC yet (hopefully soon) but had ERPC on Dec 6th (1st pg, 1st try, 32) after a mmc around 12 weeks.

It all happened so quickly and I though that I've been doing so well since. I've been keeping a straight face in front of everybody; my DH, my family, his family, our friends... but when I'm left alone it all comes back and hits me in the face.

DH is determined to TTC asap but I'm terrified, what if it happens again!?! I don't know if I could go through it, I already feel like a massive failure. And I'm terrified to DTD again, it's been almost a month! I know that I have to get myself sorted but I don't know how.

Does the fear of it happening again ever go away?

Love to all of you and I'm sorry you had to go through it xx

chocolateteabag Thu 27-Dec-12 21:35:32

Hi longbath - you are in the right place! We are all at different stages - I've had a natural (wtf) MC 2 weeks ago and just want to get back on the horse. Others are waiting for AF or to POAS or are up duffed already.

Once you've had one MC I don't think the fear goes away, but shouldn't put you off as you are now part of a very non exclusive club, so many women have had at least one MC. Weird that we don't talk more openly about them.

If you are struggling to come to terms, do ask your GP to refer you to a counsellor, it could really help you to talk through how you are feeling.

And do post on here, ESP if you've had a bad day - here is where you can rant away and everyone understands why

Bodice Thu 27-Dec-12 21:39:10

blundercat I got some of those kits and didn't get a single +ve when I tried. I think you need to do them at least twice a day to catch a +VE which is a right faf. Thought is was pointless as we ignored them and DTD anyway. Next month I left them at home while on holiday and got pregnant. If there isn't much time for sex DTD I can see their benefits. Got some left so might try them again but don't think I will buy anymore.

longbath I am sorry for your loss. To be honest after first MC I wanted to try straight away and I do this time too. But I am an impatient soul and I guess my urgent need to start a family is my strongest feeling. I don't know how the hell I will cope if it happens a third time. But not getting pregnant at all seems a worse fate to me so I think its worth the risk. I don't think the fear does go away but you just have to picture what you will get at the end of it all. If you don't feel ready to try yet give yourself a break. A few months doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things.

chocolateteabag Thu 27-Dec-12 21:39:12

Bodice - I'm cracking on before first AF - was advised to wait to recover "emotionally" and was told that physically would be fine. I just want to get on with things though

Blunder - I found cheay opks really hard to use when ttc for DS1, never got my ov right. But I think you have to follow the instructions on time of day quite closely which I was crap at

Bodice Thu 27-Dec-12 21:41:58

chocolate - lol - we posted at the same time! glad to hear you are getting on with it xxx

blundercatsHOHOHO Thu 27-Dec-12 21:49:18

Hmm maybe I've done the wrong thing then! Thanks for the replies girls. I mostly ordered them to try to figure out what the hell's going on with me, but perhaps these will make the mystery worse. Damnit!

BlingJingleJanie Thu 27-Dec-12 22:06:37

hi girlies, just checking in after being off the radar sorry to hear everyone's crap times, but also delighted that some of you are doing really well. hope you all had a nice as xmas as possible, i got a bit weepy on xmas night when we got back from my parent's house. i was thinking i should have had a nice wee bump. but maybe the many glasses of vino helped me along!

regarding getting back on the DTD horse (for want of a better word!!) it's just recommended to wait until bleeding stops after d&c to avoid infection so if you feel like it then go for it smile

i bought some of the ovulation test kits on ebay here:

they worked last time but no sign of a ovulating yet for my first cycle since d&c on 12/12/12 but before my pg i had 50 day cycles so looks like i could be heading that way again (grrrrr) can't stand the thought of having to wait that long sad

in the meantime i'm going to make the most of the mouldy cheeseboard and red wine wine cos hopefully i will have to avoid them in 2013

thank you all for all your support and advice over the past few months. i would have totally cracked otherwise xxx

longbath Thu 27-Dec-12 22:19:22

THANK YOU chocolate, bodice and bling! It's selfish but it feels good to know that I'm not on my own. I'll start popping on here and hopefully I'll get positive vibes off you, I need some motivation and encouragement. I'm going to read the thread back and try to catch up. Thanks again, I feel better already xx

PS. I've always used to have pretty regular cycles (26-32); actually, it doesn't look too regular when I think about it now. So I'm expecting AF in a week or so? But then again I know that it can all get messed up now; hopefully not.

Bakingtins Thu 27-Dec-12 22:52:10

Hi to ella spartacus and longbath.

I'm back home after family-frenzy for the last few days. mostly managed to enjoy it all, apart from a bit of cross questioning from SIL about if we want another child. She doesn't know about recent MC, should prob just have told her as she was great after MC1, but why spoil Christmas?
DS1 suddenly started talking about us having another baby this evening (maybe he overheard? --big ears--) and said he'd like a sister and worked out which year he'd be in when he started school and all sorts. Had to tell him I'd like that too but it's not always as easy as getting what you want sad He'd be a great big brother...
Trying not to SS but it's difficult. Wish I had a crystal ball to see if there's a tiny baby for us next Christmas. PIL have already announced they are off to the Caribbean for December (not quite as glam as it sounds, FIL is a ship's doctor) so we are free to stay home for once. It would be nice to think there were 3 stockings under the tree in 2013 not counting DH's who still expects one

BlingJingleJanie Thu 27-Dec-12 23:19:41

longbath this will become your favourite webpage. these girls are great smile some people get their AF from 4 weeks after the D&C - i was waiting 10 weeks i was beginning to panic but there's no set time unfortunately. hope yours comes soon. i've had a few friends (not close close friends) who we've met up with over xmas - they're back for the holidays from living away - and they asked were we not thinking of starting a family (we got married in april). i felt like screaming in their faces DONT YOU KNOW HOW DIFFICULT IT IS AAARRRGGHH angry but i just it my lip and smiled. they aren't good enough friends that i would want to tell them.

back to work tomorrow boo hoo. eaten so much this last week i think i might actually pop so might start a new healthy regime and get some new healthy recipes to give me a boost

Boozeandadietjinglebell Thu 27-Dec-12 23:45:22

Hi longbath I was almost exactly the same. First pg, first cycle trying, 31. I waited for AF, which came about 4 weeks after my mc, and I'm glad I did - it was a horrendous experience, with bleeding nearly as heavy as the actual mc and big clots. Lots of people crack on straight away and are absolutely fine.

I don't think we had sex until just before AF. I couldn't bear to. I associated 'down there' with the mc and I couldn't bear to be touched. Something clicked around AF and I've been fine since (and currently in the 2ww and waiting to POAS).

To reiterate what the others have said, I'm sorry for your loss, but this is a wonderful place to find yourself, and I can't tell you how much everyone has helped me. You will get through this, and you will come out the other side. You're not a failure (I felt/feel very much the same). You/we are lucky that we got pg so quickly, and hopefully will do so again equally quickly. And everything will be okay.

IBelieveInPink Fri 28-Dec-12 08:54:18

longbath, I was also the same. Waited for af at 5 weeks, then even after that panicked when we dtd as was scared! Honestly cannot predict how you are going to feel, just take every day as you can and one day will just click an you will be ready again.

So, chocolate and blunder I stand corrected. It was too early. Poas this morning, and BFP! 1-2 weeks on a digi, and cramping like a mofo, so hoping this is just happy stretchy cramps but we shall wait and see smile

booze hurry up and poas! I'm scared now!!! Would be nice to have some company!!

EllaRees Fri 28-Dec-12 09:23:46

hello again, having mentally prepared myself for weeks of waiting for first AF after ERPC I think it has started but exactly 2 weeks after the post-ERPC bleeding stopped (and 3 weeks after the ERPC itself). The ERPC bleeding was pretty light, and felt definitely over, so I am quite confident this is AF (again quite light and nothing scary or painful so far)...but it does seem quite a quick turn around. Has anyone experienced/heard about this rather than a longer wait? Over-analysing...

blundercatsHOHOHO Fri 28-Dec-12 11:42:57

Woweeee pink!! Hooray!! Congratulations. Now where's the smiley envy face...?! Fingers and toes crossed its a good sticky one for you!

bling, 50 day cycles?! My goodness you poor thing. Really hope af comes for you soon. Thanks for the link- those are the same sensitivity as the ones I've ordered so I'll give them a go.

longbath, welcome and sorry you're here. I think the fear doesn't go away but equally you'll know when you're ready to ttc again so why not take the pressure off for a bit and give yourself a bit of time? Much better to heal yourself mentally as well as physically before getting back into it.

Hi ella, looking back at the notes I've made I've had on/off bleeding since the erpc (6 weeks ago now). Had what I thought was af exactly 4 weeks after op. then had another one ?! 11 days later. Now still getting occasional cramps followed by passing a little bit of blood/tissue or having colour in cm. sorry if tmi! I dunno - maybe I need to go to docs as everyone else seems to have had it a bit more simple.

blundercatsHOHOHO Fri 28-Dec-12 12:04:53

Ooo on app the envy face is a green heart. Like it!

Boozeandadietjinglebell Fri 28-Dec-12 12:08:33

ibelieveinpink squeeeeeeee! How very exciting! I'm so so pleased for you. I was lying in bed thinking about you and all your 2ww symptoms and telling myself not to get my hopes up, and i get up to find this!!

It's just before 6am in Biloxi, Mississippi, and I've been lying in bed wondering when it wouldn't be too early to POAS. I went to check out my HPT options in Wal Mart yesterday and was slightly disappointed to discover they were all the same as at home (but $7 for two FRERs, so a bit cheaper). I'm crampy too, but hoping they're good cramps (don't feel like AF and it would be early). Nipples are slightly less sore but still look like a fembot/80s Madonna. For info, a road trip is not the best idea when you need to wee all time to the extent that yesterday I googled bladder infection symptoms masquerading as 2ww ones

So, when to POAS? Smiley on the OPK was last Thursday but I had a really painful 5 min cramp on the Thursday morning which might have been ov, so am probably 7/8dpo. According to chart AF should be due on 1/1 but that had me ov'ing on the 18th, and I was 2-3 days after that. I think NYE still seems sensible, if a little early if anything. We have a table booked at a place for lunch that day that serves 25c martinis, so at least I can drown my sorrows if needs be.

Oh Pink, I'm so excited for you. Yay!!!

blundercatsHOHOHO Fri 28-Dec-12 14:27:24

booze it is looking positive eh? I reckon try to wait it out til nye as you say - that's just two days away and it would be better than getting a really early false negative wouldn't it?

IBelieveInPink Fri 28-Dec-12 16:34:26

Thank you ladies. Is so scary I can hardly believe it. I keep thinking it is going to go wrong again, don't think that feeling is going to go away for a while!

Booze, definitely wait. I upset myself by poas too early. It is much nicer just getting a happy yay. NYE should do it smile.

BlingJingleJanie Fri 28-Dec-12 17:00:44

that's so fab ibelieveinpink congrats!! just think positive thoughts!! sending lots your way smile smile smile

and booze i would try to wait if you can - may as well as it would maybe make you feel down if you got a negative from testing too early... although i know i probably wouldn't be taking my advice at all and would have done it already haha!!

Bakingtins Fri 28-Dec-12 19:54:47

Congratulations Pink! grin

Big congrats pink!! Hope it all goes smoothly. Hope you're all ok and had a nice christmas, I feel a bit out of place posting here now, everything's ok here, 7 weeks today.

Brie how are you doing? Has the bleeding stopped now?

chocolateteabag Sat 29-Dec-12 07:40:04

Oh br illiant news Pink!
So happy for you

IBelieveInPink Sat 29-Dec-12 08:11:32

Thanks all. Im not quite sure how I am going to make it through the next 8 weeks. 4 weeks today. Seems like a long long way until the scan, especially when I am already knicker checking 50 times a day. Hope you don't mind me here still, not quite really to get involved on another Fred yet.

james congrats on the 7 weeks! Only 5 more to go, you are over the halfway mark! Please do post here, it's lovely to hear how you doing

littlepinkfizz Sat 29-Dec-12 09:35:55

Fantastic news pink! Maybe us saving same name will send lovely baby vibes to me! No chance for me this month as only Dtd once at cd11 and then a few times in last few days .AF due on 2/3 Jan so will be keeping all crossed for feb! So happy fr you pink and good luck to everyone else x

BelissimaLol Sat 29-Dec-12 10:03:19

Amazing news pink! Unfortunately knicker checking is a constant habit around here. I'm just over 8 weeks and it still feels like an age until my scan on 22 jan.
Hope everyone else had a good Xmas!

Boozeandadietjinglebell Sat 29-Dec-12 11:55:25

I really do think that whoever came up with knickercam should patent it and go on dragon's den!

I love all the pg ladies (all the pg ladies) so please stay.

Blol - 8 weeks? That's gone quick! Although probably not for you... How are you feeling?

BelissimaLol Sat 29-Dec-12 12:13:20

Booze - no it has not gone quick! Each week feels like three at least!
I'll be 9 weeks on wed and have scan on 22 jan. I also have a week holiday in between as it is my 39th (!!) birthday so hopefully time will pass.
I'm ok. Very tired and hungry. Sore boobs and that's all really. No ms, just a bit of queasiness every now and again.
My SIL had two mmc so you figure the panic in the whole family! I'm trying and failing not to worry too much but all I can do is wait.
How are you?

IBelieveInPink Sat 29-Dec-12 12:24:48

Wow lol 8 weeks? I'm sure it must be agonising for you, but in a way that is reassuring for me, I'm sure it was only last week we saw you get your BFP! makes it seem like time will pass quick! Here's hoping!

booze how are you doing? Any more symptoms to report?

pink yes, fingers crossed. It's not often I hope for my luck to rub off on people at the moment, as it hasn't been great recently., but for now, sprinkling healthy baby dust in your direction!

Boozeandadietjinglebell Sat 29-Dec-12 12:32:57

Blol and ibelieveinpink I'm okay. Getting to that point in the 2ww where I think I've imagined all the symptoms. Last night we stayed in a lovely beach hotel in Florida. I had a margarita with dinner and went red hot and felt sick the rest of the evening so maybe... Otherwise it's just pneumatic nipples and weird not-burps. Can't explain them. It's like just before you're sick and your throat contracts. Get them all the time (had them in the evenings last pg).

Oh well. Driving to New Orleans today and then we're having three nights in the same place which will be a novelty. Still planning to POAS the day after tomorrow unless I crack after buying the HPT twin pack

Bakingtins Sat 29-Dec-12 13:01:43

Blol glad you are ok. Lovely pregnant ladies, please don't leave - we like having some good news around! Maybe we can have a Laura Ashley graduates thread to move on to when you've had a 12 week scan?

IBelieveInPink Sat 29-Dec-12 13:04:07

Omg! booze <whispers> I felt sick every time I had an alcoholic drink over Xmas! Thought I had just had too much at my Christmas do (I know, I am a bad TTC-er, and I do really hope it hasn't affected tiny embryonic pink!) but turns out it wasn't that! <goes off to hunt for pompoms ready for boozes nye poas>

Boozeandadietjinglebell Sat 29-Dec-12 13:22:43

Heehee. It absolutely hasn't. I think you have about six weeks grace. I love margaritas. And we're staying in the margaritaville hotel. So I couldn't not... But also, I don't want to get a bfn and regret not doing anything on this holiday.

tins yy - I need somewhere to aspire to!

BombasticPeanut Sat 29-Dec-12 13:38:49

Massive congrats pink! And fingers crossed for your poas party booze grin

Sorry to bring the mood down a bit girls, I'm going to be taking a break from MN for a while. Sadly it's become apparent that something isn't right with my babymaking machinery as AF is just not turning up, been to docs for tests and they don't seem to know (or care haha) what's wrong but apparently I'm not ovulating. We're still half-heartedly ttc in the hope that an egg will just pop out one day but I'm afraid I don't think I can cope with being the one who has to cheer from the sidelines without ever being allowed to play the game, so I'm going to take a leave of absence while we try and fix me. I found Christmas horribly hard (kept thinking about the 7-month bump I should have been lugging around) and am just not in a very good place right now. Hopefully I'll be back sometime next year on one of the 'due in..' threads!

Lots of love to one and all, hope the new year brings sticky baby dust to you all xxx

IBelieveInPink Sat 29-Dec-12 14:12:34

So sorry to hear that peanut. I hope whatever it is goes back to normal very quickly and we see you back here soon. Xx

Bakingtins Sat 29-Dec-12 18:52:42

Sorry Peanut - that sucks. I hope they find the reason and you are back in working order very soon. Including you in wishes for a fertile new year for us all.

BlingJingleJanie Sat 29-Dec-12 22:00:27

i'm so sorry to hear that peanut . i remember when i was diagnosed with the molar pregnancy, i was told we weren't allowed to ttc for approx a year and i lingered on here for a while but it did upset me as i was unable to join in, so i went off the radar for a while. but thankfully i'm back (they discovered they had misdiagnosed after me panicking every day for 2 months). i hope they refer you to a doctor that cares. and who knows maybe that little egg that's in hiding might appear sooner than you think xx

ninjasquirrel Sun 30-Dec-12 01:43:21

Hello everyone. I thought I'd post here as I'm lying awake thinking about this - what advice were people given about waiting for first period before ttc again? I went for a scan a couple of days ago after medical miscarriage and the doctor said everything looked fine but we should wait until after first period until ttc. I guess we have to do what he says but I just feel so gutted as the info we were given implied we wouldn't have to wait. We are worrying about having a massive gap between siblings (4 years +). Also I just want to feel 'normal' again. It's been so bloody miserable and I want to start having sex with my husband again. I don't want to be reminded each time that we won't have a baby for at least another 10 months (because using a condom is something we'd not usually do). I feel a bit pathetic getting hung up on 6 weeks or whatever wait as there are so many people with worse problems ttc, but thought I'd ask anyway. Thanks.

Boozeandadietjinglebell Sun 30-Dec-12 03:46:01

Oh peanut that sucks. I hope they figure it out soon and we see you back here. Good luck with job season xx

ninja, I'm so sorry for your loss. it seems everyone gets different advice. I was told two months. I was so overwhelmed by everything that I didn't question it at the time. Other ladies have been told one cycle, others told to crack on. I wonder whether it's as much emotional as physical. Maybe I looked like an emotional wreck/slightly unhinged?! Saying that though, I waited one cycle before TTC and I'm glad I did. First AF after mc was horrendous. Heavy bleeding, massive clots, and I'm glad I got whatever it was out of me. However, lots of ladies don't wait, and have healthy pgs so it can't be that important.

IBelieveInPink Sun 30-Dec-12 08:55:37

Hi ninja sorry to see you here. Ditto what booze said really. Most people told wait 1 cycle, which I did. For me it was the right thing to do, I felt a bit, erm, cleared out if that makes sense! I didn't want to, but under the advice of a friend to has been through it several times I waited the one cycle.
But I have seen a few people here who didn't wait and have perfectly happy little bumps growing. So really up to you and how you feel.

BelissimaLol Sun 30-Dec-12 09:27:04

Morning. Apologies for selfish post. Woke up feeling crap with a heavy cold hmm. Does anyone know what cold medicine I can take? I need something to help me get out of bed but am scared! Thanks x

blundercatsHOHOHO Sun 30-Dec-12 09:32:52

peanut, you poor thing, this really sucks. I hope the docs are helping you to suss out what is actually going on? Do come back and have a rant or give us an update if you fancy it.

ninja I totally know what you mean and I felt the same. We didn't wait til after first af even though advised to do so as I just couldn't bring myself to use contraception etc. It didn't work anyway and I have had two wtf bleeds recently, so no idea what's going on with me! I just felt glad to be able to have sex again. So just to provide another angle on it.

blundercatsHOHOHO Sun 30-Dec-12 09:34:30

Oh dear lol. I had hot lemon and honey, paracetamol and snorted olbas oil...they did help!

Boozeandadietjinglebell Sun 30-Dec-12 16:02:46

So. I caved. And tested. Then realised I'm only 10dpo and AF not due until Friday. BUT I got a faint BFP, corroborated by the independent adjudicator (DH).

I'm cramping like anything though. Dr Google has reassured me this is fine, but it hurts. Off to find paracetamol and wait and see what happens. Absolutely terrified.

BelissimaLol Sun 30-Dec-12 16:36:19

Ooooooh booze this is exciting news! Have you got a frer lying around???? How faint is the line?! Are you testing tomorrow again?
I know the terrifying feeling. I was shaking when I saw a line and all I could think of was the mc!
Thanks blunder. Have taken paracetamol and drank lemon and honey. Currently under the duvet. Will go for a curry to cheer myself up!

littlepinkfizz Sun 30-Dec-12 16:44:31

Great news booze ! Many congratulations x

littlepinkfizz Sun 30-Dec-12 16:45:49

My AF due Wednesday but did frer this afternoon and bfn. V disappointed but not surprised. Have v sore boobs so was hopeful. X

IBelieveInPink Sun 30-Dec-12 17:08:54

booze!! That's fab! How exciting! I have been cramping loads too, so I wouldn't worry too much. Oh how exciting, I was explaining to my DH earlier how we were waiting for you to test. Eeeeek!

BlingJingleJanie Sun 30-Dec-12 17:20:54

yay for booze good work smile got everything crossed for you smile

i wasn't really sure when i was going to be ovulating this month as i always have wtf cycles - before my mc i had 50 day cycles then it was a 10 week wait after my d&c until AF made an appearance (arrived on 12/12/12) so i wasn't getting my hopes up for a 'normal' cycle this time round. but today i've had ewcm and so now i'm wondering if it's happening now?? sorry if tmi but if i have ewcm does that mean that i'm a bit late to catch the fertile days this cycle? we DTD yesterday and i might get the romance on tonight in the hope that maybe i'm not to late!!!

and blol sorry to hear you;re feeling under the weather. i find tiger balm really helps - you can rub in on your temples or chest - it's like a herbal / non chemical version of vicks and i would tend to use it if i get blocked sinuses or headaches or stuffy nose.

Bakingtins Sun 30-Dec-12 18:32:45

booze! Great news! Hope this is the start of another little flurry of BFPs for the new year.
pinkfizz it ain't over till the fat lady sings (or AF arrives) hopefully you are just too early.
janie EWCM appears around your most fertile time so go for it, after you ovulate CM turns more creamy.

blundercatsHOHOHO Sun 30-Dec-12 18:55:51

Booze! Congratulations! It all looked good and the line confirms it. Does this mean two bfps on the first month of trying each time? If so that is amazing. Good good vibes for this one being a nice sticky one.

blundercatsHOHOHO Sun 30-Dec-12 18:56:53

Littlepink- you're not out yet are you? It's only Sunday so a lot can change in those three days?

blundercatsHOHOHO Sun 30-Dec-12 18:57:49

Bling- sounds good! Get to it girl!!

Sorry for separate messages, have had wine and can't remember who wrote what.

Boozeandadietjinglebell Sun 30-Dec-12 19:46:24

Blol faint line but visible on a photo of the test I took this morning. Don't know about testing again tomorrow. Should it be darker by then or should I try and wait 48hrs from the last test? I had a two pack of FRERs so have one left. In the states they don't have the CB digital time ones. Last time I didn't get a BFP on an frer until two days after AF was due, so taking such an early positive as a good sign!!

Blunder yes, this will be two BFPs from two cycles. Both times we DtD the morning of getting a smiley on the OPK. I really hope I'm not the person that finds it really easy to get pg but not to stay pg. oh well, DH is feeling smug. Obviously it's all down to

Janey if you have EWCM go for it - mine came around the same time as the smiley.

ibelieveinpink that's so funny. DH has been taking the piss out of me and my 'Internet friends'. I don't think he realises how neurotic I'd be without you lot! Cramps are getting better. Had some paracetamol and there are lots of Internet people reporting really bad AF like cramps. Mine aren't that bad! Still shit scared though. Everything feels better than last time (as in I feel sicker, have stronger symptoms etc) but still...

pinkfizz see earlier comment about not getting a BFP until two days after AF was due last time. ibip tested too early and got a bfn too - fx for you

Right, better go back to pretending to pay attention to the Nfl game I'm at...

yorkiebilb Sun 30-Dec-12 19:46:51

hey all, huge congrats to Booze on your bfp!! What's New Orleans like?

fx to all still waiting to test. I am currently very hungover and hang my head in shame for drinking too much vodka last night. Oops.

I'm currently waiting for my af after the mc and wondered if anyone suffered from bad cramps in the run up to their first af? they are similar to my normal pre- menstrual cramps just more painful.

Boozeandadietjinglebell Sun 30-Dec-12 21:07:40

yorkiebilb New Orleans is great. I think it'll be funny for you having NO and Vegas in the same trip - Bourbon Street is nearly as bad as the Strip (if not worse!!).

Yep - cramps before first post mc AF were awful. The day it started in earnest I felt like I'd been punched in the stomach and was in tears. Drink through it, it's the only way wine

IBelieveInPink Sun 30-Dec-12 21:21:01

yorkie yeah, cramps were definitely worse for first af. Dose up on paracetamol. Hope it's not too bad for you.

littlepink yeah I didn't get a BFP when I was 11 dpo. I had to wait until the day before af before I got a positive. There is definitely still time.

blunder yeah, 2 on first cycle trying!! I think there is something in this 'more fertile after mc' thing... Fingers crossed your cycles sort themselves out quick so you can join us!

booze yeah my cramps aren't as bad as af cramps, but feel similar. I remember this from last time though, but like you say, it is stronger. Not started feeling sick yet though, but then I didn't last time. Have been very sleepy, and can smell the Christmas cheese from the other side of the room (although it is v strong Stilton so maybe that's just the cheese!)
When do you get back? When can you get your hands on a digi? A line is a line, but if you would feel better to see it really strong, wait till new years day. That way, it be a lovely start to 2013 smile

IBelieveInPink Sun 30-Dec-12 21:22:52

Just realised I started every paragraph with yeah. Now banning that word from my vocabulary. Useless.

yorkiebilb Sun 30-Dec-12 21:40:36

thx Booze and Ibelieve cramps were my excuse for drinking so much last night! Not sure I could handle any more today!

Booze sounds great! Keep us updated with your travels. when I got my bfp before the mc it was quite faint until when my af would have been due then got darker. In an ideal world it would be better to wait a couple of days if I were you but I am v impatient so I can understand that being virtually impossible to do!

chocolateteabag Sun 30-Dec-12 22:13:35

Boring update but we have heating!!

We had a second opinion yesterday and it turns out our boiler has a 4.5m flue and could have up to a 7m one per Mftr's guidance. (The gas cowboy before Christmas had said we had an illegal 7m one and it would have to be moved and shortened to 5m. He had not cleaned our boiler properly either so no wonder he couldn't get it started again)
The guy who came yesterday was the MD of a bolier company that DH has done some work for and would only accept cups of tea as payment for his 4 hours of work yesterday so inclined to believe him.

So our heating is back on and we will not be paying the call out charge of the first guy who would have had us pay him £1000 to unnecessarily move a boiler. Either he is a crook or an idiot who cannot use a tape measure.

Lesson learnt to always get a second opinion

However we are now back with the out laws tonight and for NYE so still living out of a bag and unable to properly relax. Should be trying to DTD tonight but feels weird in someone else's house

BelissimaLol Sun 30-Dec-12 22:25:09

Thanks for the tiger balm hint! I have some in my drawer I bought in Singapore and had completely forgotten about it! Now have it all over my forehead and feel better already.
Booze I think the line will get a little darker each day but if you have the strength then wait an extra day! That is pretty impressive considering its nye tomorrow.

yorkiebilb Sun 30-Dec-12 22:30:46

chocolate woo hoo on the boiler getting fixed! Must be such a relief. grin

BlingJingleJanie Sun 30-Dec-12 23:52:40

Excellent blol, hope it does the trick smile

And chocolate I'm glad to hear you've got some warmth to go home to, what a bloody carry on though, some people really are cowboys.

IBelieveInPink Mon 31-Dec-12 08:13:21

booze what did you do? Are you holding out til tomorrow? Or di you have a stronger line already?

chocolate what a bandit! Is there someone you can report him to? Wouldn't want the same happening to someone else who didn't have the sense to get a second opinion!

blundercatsHOHOHO Mon 31-Dec-12 09:00:03

Booze, how is it today? What opks do you use?

Pink - yes please I would love to join you!! Maybe my body's a bit more buggered because I was a bit further along? Hopefully it'll sort itself out soon. <wails>

Chocolate- bloody hell that's so annoying! Good it's getting sorted soon though.

chocolateteabag Mon 31-Dec-12 09:48:42

If anyone is struggling with bad sinuses (ESP if pg when you can't take decongestant) then I would massively recommend getting a sinus rinse kit
It's a bit like a Neti pot but a lot easier to use
I got a Sinus Rinse from NeilMed via Amazon for about £10 and it is amazing.

Bit yuck when all the snot rinses out - but in a good way.

BumpKitty Mon 31-Dec-12 11:16:12

Hi all, I see you've all been busy! Huge congratulations booze so happy for you.
I'm back at work today, it feels very odd. My mum was taken into hospital last Friday but is back at home now. All feels very odd as people keep asking how my Christmas was ( as nobody at work knows about my mum) and I have no idea what to say...
Anyway better get back to work x

yorkiebilb Mon 31-Dec-12 12:58:22

bump sad to read your update - sounds like a rubbish xmas.

blundercatsHOHOHO Mon 31-Dec-12 16:42:13

Oh bump you poor thing, what a difficult time. How is your mum doing? Thinking of you x

BlingJingleJanie Mon 31-Dec-12 16:51:58

thanks for the sinus tip chocolate i often get troubled with sinus headaches so i'll gladly try that!

and bump i'm so sorry you're having to go through such a rough time. just make time for yourself and spend time with your mum if you can. remember that often telling people (in the real world as well as on here) can really take a weight of your shoulders and you might be surprised at the support you get. is there anyone in your work that you're close to so at least they can be aware of your emotions?

i just want to wish you all the very best for 2013, here's hoping for sticky little babies smile and thank you for all you support this year smile so whether you're on the wine tonight or having to stay off it, have a really lovely night wine wine

Bakingtins Mon 31-Dec-12 17:49:10

Joining Janie in wishing you all a happy new year - stickiness for those with BFPs already, fertile cycles for those of us still waiting, and much happiness in 2013 for us all. Feellike saying 2012 - good riddance - but it hasn't all been bad. I am going to complete my photo yearbook tonight and be thankful for the good times photobox half price sale has nothing to do with it

BumpKitty Mon 31-Dec-12 17:54:41

thanks all, she's really not good. Very tired and just completely fed up, she is able to understand you but can't hold on to anything long enough to finish sentences or answer questions. It's heartbreaking.
I was meant to go round on Christmas day but my brother went round first with his kids and she couldn't stay awake and hardly spoke so my Dad said there would be no benefit to her or me if I went over. Then i went on Boxing day and we had a really good chat, it was lovely - I'm trying to remember what we said and write it down so I have it in the future. But I think that might be the last time I'm able to speak with her like that as she has got much worse and is so sedated and tired all the time.
Janie I have told my boss at work and he is great (and he knows all about my mc too), we had more of a chat about my mum today as he is in a similar position as his dad is really not very well. I cope better by compartmentalising and getting on with my work, if I started telling people they would be wonderful but I would be a sobbing wreck.

It is good for me to be able to write it down here. In ttc news, I've completely lost track, I think I should test around the 4th if AF hasn't arrived. I was walking like a penguin for DD yesterday (as you do) and my boobs were very sore - but I haven't noticed/or looked for any other signs. I'm very unsure whether I should be ttc - I have been very calm and unemotional lately - when i was at the hospital with my mum and dad it was liking watching someone else, I was so pragmatic and organised and droid like, I kept feeling like I was acting in a film - I think I am in shock and I'm sure things are going to hit me soon.

Boozeandadietjinglebell Mon 31-Dec-12 21:18:22

Oh Bump I'm sorry to hear your news. Unfortunately it probably will hit at once. Then you deal with it, I guess. But in the meantime, strong and stoic is good, but let yourself feel a little bit too.

I didn't test this morning. I decided it would be better to wait until tomorrow so I can see a difference. Flying home tomorrow so will be able to get a CB with the weeks on when I get home.

blunder I've used the CB digital OPKs both times (the ones with the smiley faces)

Boozeandadietjinglebell Mon 31-Dec-12 21:19:40

Oh, and I'm so rude... HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!

Hope you all have happy, healthy 2013s - four months for 2013 babies!!

I still have a few more hours of 2012 to go - cant wait to go to sleep tonight!!

chocolateteabag Tue 01-Jan-13 02:27:21

Happy New Year Everyone! First post of 2013grin!!
Here is to good things for all of us wine and thanks

Bump - so sorry that you are going this with your mum, as you say, you have to do what you need to get through it but it's crap all the same.

blundercatsHOHOHO Tue 01-Jan-13 10:19:09

bump, this is such a hard time, you poor thing. I can understand about the practical side taking over at the moment, it's one of those human nature resilience things isn't it. It's great that you can talk to someone at work at least and that your boss knows but I am the same about compartmentalising, just to keep your sanity and be able to get on with your work.

booze, sorry for being slow on this- is that the expensive monitor one? It sounds quite straightforward (not to mention successful in your case!) to use....

blundercatsHOHOHO Tue 01-Jan-13 10:19:36

Oh yeah, and HNY to all! x

Boozeandadietjinglebell Tue 01-Jan-13 15:39:12

blunder no no no. It's the sticks. They're about £15 from boots for 7. I bought them when they were on 3 for 2 though. Think you can get them cheaper from the Internet.

We're in the middle of a 6 hour drive from New Orleans to Houston. It's pissing down and is a horrible drive as there's so much standing water. POAS again this morning and the line's about twice as dark. Will test again on Friday as that's when AF is due, and then get a CB digital one.

Thunderthunderthundercats Tue 01-Jan-13 16:43:58

Ohhh thanks booze, I didn't know they did them even! Once I have a clue that my cycles are doing what they should be I may well indulge. At the moment using the cheapies just to try to get a clue whether I'm going to ovulate or not.

Good re the darker line today- one step forward!

Thunderthunderthundercats Tue 01-Jan-13 16:44:56

Ps new year, new name!

Thunderthunderthundercats Tue 01-Jan-13 17:13:15

Oh and another thing...does anyone here know much about cm and it's changes throughout the cycle? Lots suddenly here, but watery rather than anything thicker- any ideas what this might mean?

IBelieveInPink Tue 01-Jan-13 17:23:16

booze wow! Af not even due til Friday and you already have a strong line?! Yaay! That's so cool!

thunder lots of watery cm means fertile. It is watery so it is easy for the swimmers to get through. Bonk bonk bonk! (usually follows thicker cm, but if you see watery I would get on it anyway) smile

Bakingtins Tue 01-Jan-13 18:08:49

The most fertile CM is described as like egg white - you can stretch it between your fingers blush

Thunderthunderthundercats Tue 01-Jan-13 18:24:47

Thanks guys. I've never really noticed patterns with cm before and definitely only rarely get anything near ewcm... Not that I've ever stretched it. May as well get to the bonking though- no harm in that! wink

How's everyone today?

Boozeandadietjinglebell Tue 01-Jan-13 19:07:25

Tis delightful, isn't it?! I had no idea about CM stuff before coming on here. There's also Conceive Plus and Pre Seed that simulate EWCM so that the swimmers can swim better!

AlmondFrangipani Tue 01-Jan-13 20:20:49

Hi Girls,

Sorry I have been MIA but been at MIL and my folks house over Christmas/New Year! MASSIVE congrats to IBIP and Booze!!

Havent had a chance to read back since the departure of the LA skirt but hope you are all doing well. Fx for lots of 2013 BFP's!

9 weeks on Thursday. Still terrified at every pain/twinge. Fx 12 week scan is all ok. Had horrendous ms for 2 weeks which has gone now so was worried HCG was dropping. Paranoia is rife here!

Boozeandadietjinglebell Tue 01-Jan-13 21:31:09

Hi Almond! Thanks for the congrats. It doesn't really seem real yet and think I'm treating it as not real so it hurts less if something happens Hope the next three weeks go quickly for you. I totally get the paranoia. After just a couple of days I'm on full blown knicker/toilet water watch. When I mc'ed there were weird pink floating bits in the toilet bowl before the bleeding started so I guess they're what I'm looking for. 4+1 today so a long way to go yet. First milestone is 6; hopefully the next two weeks will go quickly.

IBelieveInPink Tue 01-Jan-13 21:35:45

I'm the same. Still having quite strong cramping, can't remember from first time if this is normal? Can anyone else remember? Unfortunately my milestone will be getting past the 8 week mark, so quite a long way to go.

Because mine was a mmc the first time, it had stopped growing about 3 weeks before I first had bleeding. Therefore I am going to Constantly be thinking the same Is happening for the next 3 weeks. Argh!!!!!

IBelieveInPink Tue 01-Jan-13 21:37:56

Almond, I think ms can come and go a bit. Lovely to see you have got to 9 weeks though, not long to go until your scan.... I know it will feel like forever though!! smile

Boozeandadietjinglebell Tue 01-Jan-13 21:39:25

ibelieve unmumsnetty hugs! We can't win. My cramps have stopped and now I'm worrying that they've stopped. Dr Google says that as long as they're no stronger than normal AF cramps and there's no bleeding, then not to worry. Easy!! wink

IBelieveInPink Tue 01-Jan-13 21:44:45

Aw thanks booze. Is def not stronger than af cramps. And I have even doing A LOT of running around the last couple of days, finally home from our Xmas break. So pleased to be back to my own bed!!! So I guess it probably that.
Im just panicking because the first time, I distinctly remember the 'weird' cramp I had that was the start of the mc. So now, every twinge is sending me running for the bathroom! It's gonna be a looong 8 weeks (hopefully!)

BelissimaLol Tue 01-Jan-13 22:11:08

Join the panic club. I'm 9 weeks tomorrow and currently having nightmares about mmc.
Think knicker watch does improve but it gets replaced by mmc fears! Joy.

Bakingtins Tue 01-Jan-13 22:42:41

Dammit. I'm out again. I had got my hopes up this month <stupid emoticon>
Guess I won't forget this LMP date though. Dry New Year was totally unnecessary.

IBelieveInPink Tue 01-Jan-13 22:49:38

Aw baking that sucks. Sorry. New year, new start, I hope it goes better here on in for you sad

Thunderthunderthundercats Wed 02-Jan-13 09:47:12

Hi everyone. Anyone else first day back at work today? It wasn't a nice feeling when the alarm went off this morning blrggg

tins, I'm really sorry af got you- how disappointing. Seeing as you abstained on NYE are you going to treat yourself in some way now to lift your spirits?

For those pg ladies with and without cramps, hang in there! There's just no way of avoiding the stress and worry is there, damnit?! Try to allow small moments of excitement with it though, you are one big step closer and this is a good thing despite the scariness.

BaublesForSally Wed 02-Jan-13 10:06:05

Hi everyone, happy new year! Congrats to the BFPs, fx for new year bfps for the rest of us.

Yep thunder first day back. Horrible. And ridiculous queues for train tickets at the station. I'm going to break myself back in gently and not work too hard...

Sorry AF got you tins.

I have absolutely no idea where I am in this cycle other than Day 24. I completely ignored everything, didn't temp, didn't pay any attention to mucus (mmmmmmucus). So I don't know when I ov'd. I do know I dtd a lot. A LOT. Also took B vits this cycle (yeuch HATE) and almost never forgot, so I should have a day or two longer cycle. So... AF by Monday? Maybe? Sounds about right. I am taking a relaxed attitude this cycle so am not planning to test unless she doesn't show. (lies. blatantly.)

Thunderthunderthundercats Wed 02-Jan-13 11:46:48

I'm with you sally on the not working too hard- which is blatantly obvious seeing as I'm back on here again!

CD 24 then eh? Even if you do manage to wait til Monday, that's not very far off at all now, how exciting! Are you symptom spotting or ignoring that too?

littlepinkfizz Wed 02-Jan-13 12:18:39

tins we are still in for the end of the month so all is not lost! Must put myself onto the back of the bus,join me there?! X

littlepinkfizz Wed 02-Jan-13 12:21:28

By the way, I have been working out my cycle dates wrong all these years if the MN ovulation calendar right. I always thought first day of AF was cd 1 then you counted through to 28 then AF due the next day cd 1?

Have I been wrong?

Thunderthunderthundercats Wed 02-Jan-13 12:25:56

littlepink that's what I do- first day of af is CD1 and then count through til it comes again, solo for me that was sometimes up to CD32 (but recently just CD11!).

Haven't looked at the MN ov calculator though- it does it a different way?

BaublesForSally Wed 02-Jan-13 14:55:39

thunder yes, exciting! It kind of crept up on me this month what with Christmas. Symptoms... nothing to speak of. I feel quite dizzy but that seems to happen every month now (only since mc).

littlepink pretty sure that's right, day 1 of AF is CD1.

chocolateteabag Wed 02-Jan-13 17:11:51

Hello - have had a rweally skivy first day back working from home today. Will have a horrid morning tomorrow starting at 6am.Will have to sort out work clothes later this evening as have pretty much slobbed out since my MC!

LPF - I was sure that was the right way - CD1 is first day of proper AF. But I guess Ovulation counter also takes into account how many days till you OV - I could nver tell so always stuck in 14.

Sally - I have not been checking for OV signs - just DTD as much as possible. Am now on CD23 if first day of MC is CD1. But no idea if or when I OV'd so just going to keep on DTD until either I get AF or reach end of the month and then might test but I shall likely cave in sooner and test next week sometime

Bakingtins - sorry about AF getting you. I think you need to have a second NYE this weekend to make up for it? Maybe we should all join you to make it more of a party? grin

chocolateteabag Wed 02-Jan-13 17:13:12

WTF - "rweally" blush - have clearly forgotten how to type in the last 3 weeks.

Bakingtins Wed 02-Jan-13 17:39:03

Nice idea teabag, but I'd sort of agreed with DH to do the "dry January" thing - not that we are total alkies, but have become a bit too quick to break open the vino, especially since the MC. Have been really careful over Christmas and New Year though because I was hopeful we'd have a reason to abstain.
I hate New Year anyway, it's always a massive anticlimax. I worked NYE and had to go in late for the in-patients, so we just had a tellyfest watching a box set of The Killing, which I am now hooked on.
Ah well, hoping for a seat on the October bus!

BlingJingleJanie Wed 02-Jan-13 20:26:01

oh teabag i know the feeling - i seem to have totally ballooned - i think i blamed the mc for it too much but trying to get back on track today. i lost 2 stone last year with weight watchers before my wedding in april and now about a stone is slowly but surely creeping back on and i chucked out all my fat clothes! back on track today and just been to a spin class o kick my ass back into gear.

i wanted to lose weight before getting pregnant if possible so that i could try to avoid the wobbly belly!

diyqueen Wed 02-Jan-13 20:30:26

Hello everyone, I've been lurking here for a couple of days and thought I'd show myself. I'm not ttc yet as still bleeding from miscarriage that started 14th december - it's been a horribly drawn-out affair (with Christmas eve and morning in hospital with suspected ectopic but thank goodness it wasn't) - but keen to get on with it asap. So sad to see so many others going through it too sad but mn has been a real help and comfort.

Anyone else here have problems conceiving and dreading going through the whole waiting and hoping process again? Was so chuffed to conceive after just 6 months this time (dd took 18 months - there are issues we know about that make it take a bit longer) and now so bitterly disappointed. I have a friend who started ttc at the same time, fell pregnant first month, and is due in a few weeks, really hammers it home. I would so love dd to have a sibling and a not too massive age gap, but dreading ages trying and being disappointed.

Oh and thanks to some of you whose names I recognise who replied to my thread in the miscarriage section, really appreciated it.

Thunderthunderthundercats Wed 02-Jan-13 21:08:44

Hey baking, I am the same with the vino, and mmc + Christmas combined has meant a very boozy time here too. <hides new glass of wine behind love handle>

diy so sorry you have been having such a horrible time, what bad timing as well- not that there's ever good timing but you know what I mean.

I didn't have a long wait the first time so can't directly relate but I can empathise with the dread of having to wait to conceive again. Do you have specific things you can do to help the issues? Hopefully there is some solace in the fact that you are more fertile after mc so once you're ready to start again that might increase your chances?

diyqueen Wed 02-Jan-13 21:34:32

Thanks, and sorry about your mmc too. The issues are on dp's side rather than mine, he is eating healthy, going to the gym etc but can't do any more than that, we just have to dtd as much as possible, try and get the timing right, and hope. Maybe we're due some more luck and it will happen faster this time. Bakingtins I know what you mean about the drinking, when ttc dd I went to a wedding (it was one where I really could have used a few drinks to get through it), didn't touch a drop, then af came the next day. I really feel like getting very drunk after the last few weeks but am still bf dd so have to be a bit careful still.

Thunderthunderthundercats Wed 02-Jan-13 21:44:35

Well diy I guess this increased fertility thing means us women are more susceptible to sucking up those sperm (as it were), so still could be good for you? Hope so!

Bakingtins Thu 03-Jan-13 08:00:11

Hi diy good to see you venturing over here. We tried for 12 m for the baby we lost, though I don't think there are issues other than my age (38), I've had 4 prev pregnancies and have 2 children so we've got there in the end, it just takes longer and longer. Pretty disheartening though, I so want to be pregnant by EDD in April and have a baby this year, but not too many chances left. I hope you'll be one of the people who benefit from the alleged postMC boost to fertility.
No idea what is going on with me. I had a day of AF now it has all stopped again. Is that still CD1 or do I count when she arrives in earnest? Since MC I seem to have had spotting a few days before she turns up, but this was a proper bleed, then nothing. Surely am too far post MC for hormones to still be screwed up (4m)?

Thunderthunderthundercats Thu 03-Jan-13 08:07:46

That's really odd baking, was it on time? See what happens over next day or two I guess. I'm guessing it was too much to be anything other than af?

Bakingtins Thu 03-Jan-13 08:14:09

couple of days early but I thought I ov'd early this cycle so about 2w post ov. Too much to be 'implantation' even if I were feeling optimistic but usually a 5 day AF and at least a couple heavy, so where has the witch gone? I blame too many repeats of 'Room on the Broom' on V+. The witch taped her broomstick and whoosh she was gone! V annoying.

Thunderthunderthundercats Thu 03-Jan-13 08:20:30

Ha, I thought 'room on the broom' might have been some kind of metaphore then! Hmmm very odd indeed. If it comes back today I'd be tempted to count yesterday as CD1, otherwise...well see what happens next. V frustrating.

A friend of mine didn't think she was pg because she thought the bleed was a mini period. Turns out it was twins. Just sayin..... (probably unhelpful- sorry if so!)

Bakingtins Thu 03-Jan-13 11:07:21

grin I have a friend who had 2 children then TRIPLETS. Don't even joke about it...

Thunderthunderthundercats Thu 03-Jan-13 11:28:39

Tempted to poas just to be sure?

Bakingtins Thu 03-Jan-13 14:08:05

Not yet. Will see what transpires over the next few days.

"taped her broomstick?" should be "tapped" obviously.

ladyluck12 Thu 03-Jan-13 19:18:59

I'm a bit of a late one but please can I join?
Had a mc in November and just finishing off first AF after that.
Trying to get back into TTC but a bit scared tbh.

Bakingtins Thu 03-Jan-13 19:56:33

Welcome ladyluck (good name)

Speaking of which, are we having new names for the new year, and if so whose good luck are we following?

andadietcoke Thu 03-Jan-13 20:24:30

ladyluck hi [waves]

Sorry you find yourself here, but it's a good place to be, if you have to!

I was scared too. It didn't dissipate until after first post-mc AF was out of the way and my body felt like my own again. See how you feel. One day I just felt ready again.

Hi to diyqueen too!

BlingJingleJanie Thu 03-Jan-13 20:44:19

hi diy and ladyluck , sorry you've had to join us but we're a good bunch. anything goes, i've never felt awkward asking even the silliest of questions as most have gone through the same emotions. sending hugs.

i'm all for a name change, my name is still a little bit christmassy for my liking!

hope anyone that's back to work isn't having a crap a week as mine! luckily i'm off on a girly weekend tomorrow so there's light at the end of the tunnel!

GardenWorm Thu 03-Jan-13 21:21:25

Hi Hi - another newbie here. Ouchee there really are too many of us! TTC numero deux after 2 may be 3 MC's (if my gut instinct on the first one is correct). I'm 37 so the eggs may be slightly scrambled, who knows. I've had a nosey on here for a couple of days and have to say you all seem lovely...hope I don't let the side down ;o)

BumpKitty Fri 04-Jan-13 09:08:41

Hi newbies, sorry you find yourselves here but you are very welcome.
CD1 here - was more upset than I thought I would be. I'll take my place with bakingtins and lpf at the back of the bus

Thunderthunderthundercats Fri 04-Jan-13 09:52:27

Sorry about af bump, that's rubbish but also your reaction might answer your question about whether you want to be ttc again or not? As long as the disappointment isn't too much of a knock when you've so much else to deal with at the mo.

Hello and welcome to the newbies.

What's the update, tins? I've gone back to a variation on the previous name for now, but will be keeping a close eye out for the lucky ones.

IBelieveInPink Fri 04-Jan-13 10:32:06

Hi all, sorry to some of you who will see the same thing posted many places, but I'm mid panic!!
So, i should be 4+6 today. Is my second pregnancy after a mmc at 8 weeks in October. Thought I would reassure myself by doing another cb digi test, so I can see the weeks going up and keep myself sane.
I did another test this morning. With fmu and everything, just to make sure. And it still says 1-2 weeks. Surely by now I should be at least 2-3 if not an early 3+? Okay 3+ would be a bit much, but definitely a 2-3, by at least 4 days?!
I phoned the doctors this morning, and they won't see me til I am 6 weeks. Just told me to wait it out.
Would be interested to hear anyone else's experience of this. Good or bad, I just want to know where I am really. Thank you.

And hello to the newbies. So sorry to see you here. Everyone is so lovely and helpful though, is a good place to be in a sad situation if that makes sense.

BaublesForSally Fri 04-Jan-13 11:15:03

Hello to the new people - sorry you find yourselves here.

Sorry about af bump - I know how you feel, the first couple of cycles I sobbed when AF came which completely surprised me.

pink - I didn't try a CBdigi till 5+6 last time but got a 2-3 then (and there was nothing wrong at that point!) so that sounds similar? Everyone has different hCG levels and they're only an estimate - even the instructions say the conception indicator is only 92% accurate. I know it's really worrying though.

CD26. Not symptom spotting NO NO NO I am not.

LCR77 Fri 04-Jan-13 11:43:49

Posted this in another thread already but seeking advice...Had a very turbulent few months and very nervous newbie. I had a suspected ectopic miscarriage in November with first pregnancy at 7 weeks. Then found out my sister was also pregnant and our due dates would have been only a few days apart. She has now also miscarried so trying to help her through it.

We're now TTC again as doctors told us there was no need to wait. After a very over-indulgent Christmas consuming everything you're not supposed to - excess alcohol, mouldy cheese and pate think I could be pregnant again. We conceived first month of trying last time and think it could have happened again. Preparing to take a test this evening and bricking it - reassurance and support needed.

Lucky13ForBaby Fri 04-Jan-13 15:37:00

Hi all. Happy New year. Some familiar faces on here and lots of newbies it seems. I was on this thread a few months back as BabyJames. Fancied a new name. Here's hoping that the new year and a name change brings with it lots of luck and babies for us all. I've not been around for a while as I turned a little crazy with the TTC following 2 MC in a row in Aug and early October. I have had a totally relaxed month this cycle without OPK's, Charting or coming on the Mumsnet boards. It has been nice enjoying Christmas which is when I think I ovulated around. I am now starting to feel that crazyness return!!! So I'm around 9 days post ovulation and after buying 4 pregnancy tests this morning I POAS and surprise surprise BFN sad I also have a gut feeling that the evil witch is on her way.

Baubles - so hard to try not to symptom spot isn't it! I had loads of symptoms last month then AF arrived 2 days early!

Here for hand holding LCR. I eat and drank everything over Christmas as I have resisted and held back for a good few months now and didn't help get me up duffed!

Sorry your back at Cycle day 1 BumpKitty. Truly sucks sad Treats for you tonight.

Hi everyone else I will have a read back through the thread now.

chocolateteabag Fri 04-Jan-13 16:38:01

Hello all
If we name change - can someone please explain how to do it as I am still in a post Christmas brain freeze (work has been hell today)

LCR77 - do you know when you ovulated (ish)? And which test are you using?
IBiP - I found CB Digi's really crap - only got a BFP on 14DPO last time, but could have been my HCG levels as didn't get an early BFP with DS either. They are just little programmes looking at intensity levels of the coloured line on the strip - so much to go wrong or be misread. I would test again in a couple of days.

Lucky13 hold back on the POAS! that way madness lies, esp before 14 DPO. I have no idea if or when I have ov'd since natural MC on 12 Dec - so will not try a POAS until at least end of the month just watch how soon I cave on that one

In laws have now arranged for SIL's little boy to be christened this weekend. In our village church. And after party at our house. This is becauseDH's parents are divorced and would be awkward at FIL's house.
YAY! I now have everyone staying at my house until Thursday - cue rictus grin - I am being such a grump but have not had DH or DS to myself since 20th of Dec and reeeeaaalllly just want to get the house sorted and have a chill.
Ooh I have such big things to worry about - feel free to biscuit me

chocolateteabag Fri 04-Jan-13 16:42:52

sorry LCR77 meant to write a bit more - don't worry about overindulging - nothing reaches the little one directly until much later on. Guidance on folic acid etc is to make sure it's in you when your body gets the egg ready for ovulation.
Do let us know how you get on

diyqueen Fri 04-Jan-13 19:57:09

Thanks for the welcome, so glad I've found this thread. It's like a weight off my shoulders being able to share all this stuff. Sorry to those who got af, it sucks and I hope nobody here has to wait too long. I am so keen to get 'back to normal' but still flipping bleeding, 3 weeks and counting now, it's mine and dp's anniversary tomorrow and was hoping this rubbish business would all be over by then.

Lucky13ForBaby Fri 04-Jan-13 20:15:27

Chocolate: You name change up top on MyMumsnet. I hear what your saying about needing a chill. That sounds full on!

Diy: Hi there and welcome. 3 weeks bleeding sounds draining both physically and emotionally. Make sure you keep your iron levels up. Sorry to hear of your loss and that it is going to be your anniversary sad Do you have plans? Some quality time together maybe a nice distraction.

I have banished the HPT to the drawer. Got a feeling I wont need them now anyway. I hate all this waiting. Waiting for bleeding to stop, waiting to try again, the 2 week wait, then if by some minor miricle wait and wait and wait to see if will be ok this time around. All so flipping consuming!

diyqueen Fri 04-Jan-13 20:28:30

Hear hear, couldn't have put it better.
We are both so knackered that we've made no plans, all we both want is about a week of sleep (dd is waking a few times a night at the mo and rather highly strung in the day). May get a takeaway... ah the romance!

Chocolateteabag good luck, sounds like hard work.

Bodicea Fri 04-Jan-13 22:08:44

Hey, happy new year.
Been away a few days.Hi to all the newbies. Little name change for a new year - even though I was already a B - added an A at the end to make me queen of the icini people and a kick ass strong woman. Hoping it might bring me some luck!
Formally known as Bodice.
Well 2012 has been tough. Two miscarriages in the space of 6 months plus parents splitting up in the thick of it. But I did get to marry the love of my life earlier in the year so it hasn't been all bad.
Looking forward to a better 2013. The decision whether to try straight after ERCP has been made for us by us both being ill and not in the mood so no more agonising. Sat on couch now with sinusitis. Hoping AF will come soon so we can get going again.

Right will read back thread now and get to know where everyone is up to xxxxx

Bodicea Fri 04-Jan-13 22:19:56

Noticed a theme of putting on weight here. Glad it is not just me. I have put on almost a stone since wedding day. Some I blame on general laziness and gorging but I think the MCs are to blame too. They are!!!!
Gonna get back on the exercise wagon as soon as I can brush off this evil cold. I am actually craving healthy things at the mo as well!

diyqueen Fri 04-Jan-13 22:20:08

Please can someone explain the name change thing to this clueless newbie? (Is there supposed to be a 'b' in it? And why?) ta!

Bodicea wishing you lots if luck for 2013, sounds like you're due some.

Bodicea Fri 04-Jan-13 23:32:32

Thanks diyqueen I just read back on your history and I am sorry for your loss. It must have been horrible being in over Christmas.
I hope you have a BFP super quick this time x here is to 2013 - it's gonna be lucky for us.
As for name changes. A lot of people started there names with a B but I am not sure why as not been here from the start. Perhaps an original can explain. I happened to have a b already but fancied a change xx

andadietcoke Sat 05-Jan-13 00:22:46

The Bs were because we had a BFP spree in November/December and by coincidence (or some higher intervention) everyone's names began with B, hence the mass name change.

BrieMonster Sat 05-Jan-13 06:29:51

Hi from an old B! Just seeing how everyone's going.
I'm ten weeks something today and still finding plenty to agonise over, but that's just me. Scan on the 16th although I did get a peek at a heartbeat after some bleeding a few weeks ago... Maybe I was still here then?
Happy new year everyone (despite obvious non-happy occurrences) I hope 2013 is kind to us all. No doubt you'll find a lucky naming pattern shortly and fingers crossed it sweeps envy one up and away into healthy worry-free (like that will ever happen for us now) pregnancies!

GardenWorm Sat 05-Jan-13 11:21:07

That's good news BrieMonster, and I think all of us would still be agonising if we were in the same situation. Not too long until your scan - honest!!!
Slight tangent; anyone else noticed a lack of folic acid in supermarkets? Just had to by pregnancy vits (which rubs salt in) as the second one I've tried in last few days has none. Grrrrr....

Floweroct Sat 05-Jan-13 14:29:04

Another unfortunate newbie here! Had a mmc before Xmas, had my dating scan at what should have been 11 weeks but only showing 6. Had erpc just over 2 weeks ago, had taken us over a year to get this far and it's our first so it's heartbreaking thinking we have to start all over again! I have pcos which doesn't help! I'm still bleeding and still showing bfp so need those to go away and we can start again!

Good luck to those that have bfps and fingers crossed its good to see some good news and hopefully the rest of us wl be shortly behind you x

diyqueen Sat 05-Jan-13 14:50:48

Floweroct I'm so sorry for your loss, and I feel the same about having to start all over again. I'm very lucky to have dd (21mo), but she took 18mo to conceive. The one I just miscarried took 6 months, couldn't believe our luck as we have some fertility issues too. I hope next time is quicker for you and works out well. Mmc must have been an awful shock, I can't imagine that. Started bleeding on 14 dec here at about 8 weeks, in hospital Xmas eve and Xmas morning with suspected ectopic but thankfully it wasn't. Crappest Christmas ever. Still bleeding too and stiill having blood tests til hcg is 0, not there yet - hope it's all over soon for both of us x

LCR77 Sat 05-Jan-13 17:16:41

thanks for your words of support it does help especially as I can't talk to anyone else aside from my partner just yet.

After a dud Boots test last night (the control line was very faint) I waited till this morning and came up with a BFP straight away(!!!). Very mixed feelings as it has happened so quickly after MC and need to wait until early scan at 7 weeks till I can even let myself be excited. In a state of shock right now!! Will be testing again in a few days to double check!

To all TTCers I'd recommend taking the Pregnacare Conception supplements as it seems to have worked both times!! best wishes to you all

Bakingtins Sat 05-Jan-13 18:53:06

Hi to LCR77 (and congratulations) and flower ((unmumsnetty hugs)) just about allowed on this thread I think
I lost a baby at 8 weeks in September which had taken a year to concieve, it's even more heartbreaking when it has been difficult to get even as far as a BFP. I have taken so many conception supplements over the last 18 months I rattle - I don't think they make a blind bit of difference (though obv the folic acid is a good idea) - sorry LCR77 you just got lucky! Hope it goes well for you this time round.

IBelieveInPink Sun 06-Jan-13 10:41:31

Hello all. I'm back again. Although I never really left did I, didn't have time. Mc last night. Looks like the devils at clearblue were right about me!
So, counting this as cd1? Does anyone know, because I was only 5 weeks this time, does that mean it is more like a normal af for my body, and can I start trying again straight away?
Wow this sucks.

Hello to Flower and any other newbies I have missed (sorry, am on phone so can't see names)

brie great to hear you getting on so well! Not long now, almost time to breath a sigh of relief and enjoy it smile.

Thunderthunderthundercats Sun 06-Jan-13 11:23:10

Oh pink, that sucks. Poor you. Does that mean it was a chemical pregnancy? Sorry I don't know about whether it's CD1 or not but makes sense to count it as such?

How are you doing?

Hi to everyone else.

Thunderthunderthundercats Sun 06-Jan-13 11:25:06

tins, what happened with af?

yorkiebilb Sun 06-Jan-13 11:34:00

Hey all,

Pink so sorry to hear that. I would definitely count that as cd1. Are you still bleeding? As long as you're not still bleeding I can think you can get on again with ttc if that's what you want to do...I'm pretty sure that's right unless someone knows otherwise?

IBelieveInPink Sun 06-Jan-13 11:36:03

Technically yes. I think so. Chem pregnancy ( from doctor google) is the earliest form of mc, where it is too early for anything to have shown up on scans- counted as before 5 weeks. As I was 5 weeks exactly, yes, I think it is still counted as that. Especially as my hormone levels weren't really going up.

Is just a little more worrying now that there has been 2 in a row. 1 I could write off as just one of those things. 2 makes me worry a little more sad