BFP wishes will come true

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RedRobin1 Thu 06-Dec-12 09:12:46

Hopefully this is the last thread we start and all our dreams and wishes come true.

SantaKittenClaws Thu 06-Dec-12 09:16:39

Marking place smile

Right, cycle 9, cd1. It's a New Years Day bfp for me please!

RedRobin1 Thu 06-Dec-12 09:24:39

sorry about AF arriving kitten fx you get your wish on new year's day!

twinklstar2, ttc1, cycle 16, BFP due 19 Dec
Thingymajigs, ttc3, cycle 6, BFP due 20 Dec
RedRobin1, ttc1, cycle 8, BFP due 27 Dec
SantaKittenClaws, ttc1, cycle 9, BFP due 1 Jan
alwaysawake ttc2, cycle 7, bfp due 3 Jan
Weechops, ttc3, cycle 7, BFP due 8 Jan
WhenSheWas, ttc 2, cycle 7 but on a break, BFP due mid / late Jan

lindamagoo Thu 06-Dec-12 09:29:03

Hi ladies can I join you please? I'm 41 and I'm about to try for baby #3. Had my coil removed on Monday and af came Tuesday night so I guess I'm cd3 of my first month of trying. Dreading it as it took me a year to fall the last time but you never know I might have more luck this time xxx

SantaKittenClaws Thu 06-Dec-12 09:36:06

Hi linda welcome smile hope you're not here for very long (in the nicest possible way of course gringrin)

lindamagoo Thu 06-Dec-12 09:41:22

Thanks kitten smile I hope none of us are. Be good to see what everyone's story becomes though grin

weetinselchops Thu 06-Dec-12 11:13:16

Morning. Popped on my Christmas name today, do you like it? smile

Dh left this morning for 2 weeks, but as af has still not arrived (cd34) then he will definitely be home during my next fertile days woo!

twinklestar2 Thu 06-Dec-12 11:34:19

This has gotta be the last frickin thread I join!!

lindamagoo Thu 06-Dec-12 11:39:29

Lol twinkle I'm the same and I only just started on here on Monday grin

BridgetandtheHairyBaubles Thu 06-Dec-12 11:44:17

Hello on this cold and frosty morning. Any room for a slightly pudgy 36 yr old hoping and wishing for a second child?

It's been a long old wait...but I'd love to start 2013 with two pink lines!

(don't know what cycle number I'm on - I've stopped counting)

Love the new name wee!

Argh tearing hair out a bit today for 2 reasons - have some work (& housework!) to do from home today. 2 y/o DS not amused at not having my undivided attention & im getting tortured!! Did my tesco xmas online grocery shop - finny to think if pg all works out hyperemesis might v well hav kicked in and DH will hav to cook xmas dinner

Second thing is MIL. I get on great with her and in fairness the whole situation is partly DH's fault but she's trying to dictate what is happening at xmas even tho she knows me and dh are already carefully trying to orchestrate things so both my mum and dad and her&FIL are getting to see us (and more importantly DS lol) equally over xmas. Anyway MIL has thrown a spanner in the works and I know it would normally frustrate me a bit but with hormones going mad i am irrationally furious about it!! Seething cross or weepy by turns...hormones sending emotions all over the show!! And im supposed to be trying to stay stress free til post 12 week mark and im up to a hundred. Def not like me but i suppose raging hormones is a good sign

ladies, heres hoping this thread is our last ttc one and we will ALL be onto a graduates one soon xx

Thingymajigs Thu 06-Dec-12 13:05:18

Sorry to hear about all the stress little. It never ceases to amaze me how childish grown people can be, especially around Christmas time. Hopefully your hormones settle soon but don't be afraid to have a good cry if needed.

I was just wondering if anyone else has experienced an early ovulation after using EPO. I was happily waiting for today (CD 15, usual O day) and then my temps indicated that it has already happened. Luckily we covered that area of the cycle but its not like me to be early at all. I'm DEFINITELY lowering the dosage next month especially as I had even less CM than usual.

I love the Christmas names! Sorry if I forget who you all are for a bit though.

RedRobin1 Thu 06-Dec-12 13:07:23

Hi bridget and linda - I second that bridget! Need to see two lines in the new year. I don't want to be joining or starting any more threads.

littlemiss take a deep breath and say "woooooosaaaaaaaa" try that 3 times or 5 times and it normally does the trick for me. Hate MILs causing trouble - even while ttc, the only stress I have in my life is my MIL. So I avoid speaking to her much over my fertile period grin

RedRobin1 Thu 06-Dec-12 13:09:38

I love the tinsel in your name wee.

I haven't experienced that thingy my OV is as usual between cd14-16.

Thingymajigs Thu 06-Dec-12 13:17:33

Ok thanks red it's likely that I would've ovulated early anyway with or without the EPO but I just wanted to check. At least I can relax in the 2ww a bit earlier than expected. I hate waiting for the temps to rise.

SantaKittenClaws Thu 06-Dec-12 13:47:25

Hi bridget smile

thingy sorry I can't help with your question just yet, but might be able to help in a few weeks - I've just bought some to start taking today (CD1). Usually OV around CD14 but I think I have quite a short LP so hopefully this will help sort things out a bit. What dosage have you been taking?

ReindeerOutdoors Thu 06-Dec-12 13:51:49

Hi! Found you all....

Sorry about af kitten

BridgetandtheHairyBaubles Thu 06-Dec-12 14:05:07

Thank you for the warm welcome. It feels very odd not 'knowing' anyone, so I'll probably be a bit quiet until the shyness wears off.

lindamagoo Thu 06-Dec-12 14:10:33

Ok I'm going away to think about a more Christmassy name for myself!!! Getting jealous of all you tinsel and baubles, lol grin

Thingymajigs Thu 06-Dec-12 14:44:16

santakittenclaws I took the dosage recommend on the bottle which was 3 x 1000mg capsules a day at breakfast, lunch and dinner. So 3000mg until ovulation. I took it to see if it would help give me EWCM instead of watery CM but so far it hasn't. Just an unusually early ovulation. A quick Google shows lots of others have the same experience but you can also Google the same for late ovulation tbh. Just make sure you cover all areas of your cycle just incase. I'll reduce the dosage to 1000mg a day next month.
Hi to all the new people. smile

twinklestar2 Thu 06-Dec-12 16:30:33

Going to have a couple of Baileys tonight whilst we decorate the house! Getting into the Xmas spirit now!!

Then we'll dtd. Last one for fertile period. Then we'll have dtd on Saturday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday with monitor peaking mon and tues so we'll be covered.

fatasbutter Thu 06-Dec-12 16:58:25

Hello!
Room for an oldie, returning for a bit of banter and support??
Long time no see, and sorry to see some old faces but happy to hear some BFPs recently!

I went a bit chicken oriental a while back so had to hide my face for a bit! Cycles were all over the place and went to dr for some prodding and poking - all apparently ok - so where the jeff is my sticky bean then and now here I am! Last months af was bit more normal, but only managed to dtd on cd6 and can already feel af pains (always start a week early!) so am guessing jan bfp for me at the earliest...

fatasbutter Thu 06-Dec-12 17:04:59

Where is resipsa?

SantaKittenClaws Thu 06-Dec-12 17:09:52

Hey fatas welcome back, glad the doc says you're all in working order smile

Thanks thingy, I've picked up the 1000mg capsules so trying to decide whether to take one or two a day....I think I'll start with two and see what happens (if anything) this cycle.

Good work twinkle, fx this is your month! You've made me fancy baileys now too....

SantaKittenClaws Thu 06-Dec-12 17:18:02

Haven't seen res for a couple of weeks now, her DM was sick and there was talk of IVF soon iirc sad

BelissimaLol Thu 06-Dec-12 17:21:33

Just marking my place here to keep an eye on you girls. Need you to join me ASAP as I'm getting lonely hmm

fatasbutter Thu 06-Dec-12 17:29:59

Ah poor res sad

Congrats lol! Lucky old you! Will have a wine for you! X

fatasbrandybutter Thu 06-Dec-12 18:00:11

Ok this is a lazy name change, but still!
Have you thought of a festive name yet Linda?

twinklestar2 Thu 06-Dec-12 18:14:15

Welcome back fatas and hello newbies!!

lindamagoo Thu 06-Dec-12 18:48:39

I can't think of one yet that goes with my name but I will... Don't even know how to edit my name on here, lol

BridgetandtheHairyBaubles Thu 06-Dec-12 18:50:08

Hello fatas, I think that's a stroke of pure genius! Absolutely love brandy butter.

(Rather off topic, but was your original nickname inspired by "Who sank the boat?" It's the only place I've ever come across that expression)

Oooh, do like the idea of being a newbie...feel like an old hag most of the time.

lindamagoo Thu 06-Dec-12 19:22:52

How do I change my nickname ladies?

weetinselchops Thu 06-Dec-12 19:27:50

linda go into MyMumsnet at the top then into MyRegistration and then change your nickname. Save changes and that's it smile

weetinselchops Thu 06-Dec-12 19:28:39

Oh and big hiya to fatas <waves Baileys in general direction of fatas>

fatasbrandybutter Thu 06-Dec-12 19:52:40

Hi Bridget! No, it is a rude term of description my dad once or twice used in a particularly amusing anecdote and all the other names I wanted were taken by other gits people! wink

Hiya weechops!! <waves like a loon>

I hope nobody will mind me saying I feel oddly comforted by seeing some familiar faces again... My anniversary of mmc due date has passed and the other 5 people updiffed at same time as me have all given birth, and I have gritted my worn down teeth whilst hearing about their wonderful progeny so now I feel it is time to have my own unconnected pregnancy. And we all deserve it by now envy

Thanks weetinselchops, done it grin

fatasbrandybutter Thu 06-Dec-12 19:53:38

Diamond!

Marks place to keep an eye where to throw the Xmas luck dust!
Waves at fatas, it has been a while
And thanks to red for return greeting, things are ok with me, I try not to think about it most of the time, that's worked better as as soon as we told everyone after scan 13wks I started bleeding a week later and scared the shit out of myself, it seems ok but after the last 2 mc could do without bleeding in pregnancy ever again!!

twinklestar2 Thu 06-Dec-12 21:01:21

Fatas - I feel your pain re congratulating people through gritted teeth! Just want it to be me now.

Kittens - glad to hear all is well.

fatasbrandybutter Thu 06-Dec-12 22:01:26

Your time will come winkle for sure, I know it

Congrats kittens x

RedRobin1 Thu 06-Dec-12 22:20:53

kittens the bleeding sure must be scary but just keep on thinking positive thoughts and you'll have a little one in your arm soon smile very envious but in a good way x

fatas good to hear from you - I am having some poking and prodding done myself. It's not a nice experience and they are not very gentle.

Loving the festive name changes smile I am hoping this thread sees a lot of Christmas and early new year bfps! Cheers to that baileys twinkle

BelissimaLol Fri 07-Dec-12 07:26:40

Hey fatas. Long time no see grin
I've also been looking for woody! Gas anyone heard from her?
I totally get the difficulty in having to congratulate bfp. That's one of the reasons why I stopped joining monthly threads. It felt everyone got one but me.
So shag fest over twinkle?! I think you gave it your best shot this month! When is poas day? Any symptoms?
If it helps all I had was constipation (remember my poo in the plane drama?!), tiredness and extreme hunger. Nothing else and no IB. And I didn't feel pg. And I had a few drinks. Fx it's your turn grin

twinkle - i had.no symptoms at all this last cycle, utterly convinced i wasnt.pg. Then i had a couple of.nights of v odd dreams / broken sleep, moticed when.i was getting in.the shower my.boobs looked...kinda weird (!!) and then.on Saturday (the day i got a faint bfp) i found myself eating slices of cooked ham straight out of the packet like it was going out of fashion. So i took a test. But none of the usual 'symptoms' everyone seems to talk about. So what im trying to say is basically dont even think about.it between.now and poas time! Fx for u

ReindeerOutdoors Fri 07-Dec-12 08:10:43

Confused with the kitten changes, sorry! Just to clarify is kittenskittenskittens kittykatsforever and Santakittenclaws kittenkatzen?

twinklestar2 Fri 07-Dec-12 08:44:23

We didn't manage to dtd last night it just got too late. But will go for one last attempt. The monitor has been saying low since yesterday anyway, the three crucial days were mon, tues and weds and we got them covered. But just in case I will dtd tonight.

Littlemiss - I never allow myself to symptom spot nor do I buy tests - learnt from experience that I'm usually wrong!!

BridgetandtheHairyBaubles Fri 07-Dec-12 09:39:01

twinklestar another one here that avoids symptom-spotting if at all possible - been mentally made a fool of too many times.

Although, Lol, I can relate to the constipation thing. In both my pregnancies my bowels were definitely a better barometer than my boobs. I have to quickly stop myself getting excited now if I have a day or two of feeling 'sluggish'.

The congratulating others on their pregnancies/babies is difficult. Although, strangely, I find it very unpredictable which ones will upset me and which won't. For years, I thought I'd never even have the chance to try for another, so, generally, I'm a bit of a pro at just letting it all wash-over me.

But, for some reason, my neighbour (up the road)'s pregnancy/birth has really affected me. I haven't even been able to bring myself to speak to her since she had her baby. We are only very passing acquaintances so it's not too rude of me. But I have even found myself crossing over the road if I see her in the distance or ducking into shops.

Fatas think I understand the unconnected pregnancy feeling. My "would of been due-date" is next week and after that I think I'll feel much freer to have a brand new pregnancy. Most of this year has felt like it "belonged" to my lost baby in a funny sort of way.

RedRobin1 Fri 07-Dec-12 09:52:09

Same here twinkle I avoid poas after the CP. Its too hard to see the blank white space and realise what a fool I have been with the symptom spotting.
I find it safer to not get my hopes up and I deal with the disappointment better. You have dtd on the peak days so should have caught it - fx.

bridget I never thought of it that way - what you say about starting a brand new pregnancy. My baby would have been due in April, and my best friend is accidentally pregnant and also due on the same date in April. And I find myself avoiding her or asking her about her bump and pregnancy because I see her glowing and so crazily wish it was me me me!

I don't like joining the monthly threads either lol as it just seems even more depressing when everyone else is announcing their bfps on there almost instantly and it just seems to take ages for us. I have now set myself a 6 month milestone. If it doesn't happen in another 6 months, then I'll worry a little. But for now I have accepted its not going to be soon, but IT WILL HAPPEN.

BridgetandtheHairyBaubles Fri 07-Dec-12 09:59:49

RedRobin I'll raise a glass of something expensive and sparkly to that - "IT WILL HAPPEN!"

Yes raindeer/ sunshine you got it right, sorry it is abit confusing, jeleous of all your xmax names though!!
On the positive thinking thing you were all saying, a friend I havnt seen in ages was talking about this last week saying how we make our own luck and telling yourself something will happen and it will, she told me to try it with something small like saying I will find a feather today etc, she saw how skeptical I was but reminded me I had said from the beginning of pregnancy with dd I wanted her to come early, at 37 wks was what I always said and she was born bang on 37wks, it was a joke but at the same time I had always convinced myself it would take me ages to get pregnant, my mum had told me she thought I had pcos symptoms and I thought I did so always thought itl take me ages ( it did! Almost 2 yrs) and yet after that knowing I didn't and pregnancy can make you more fertile I didn't feel the same and have always caught quickly since- could be crap but at the same time made me think!
Bridget sorry to hear about your mc too, I had a few friends who have just had their new babies and mine too would have been due this month, it has made it hard with them in particular and I always think of theirs in relation to my loss!
Agree with littlemiss on no symptoms when I got my bfp but ditto on the strange dreams, that was the only difference for me, not even cm!
Fx for you this month, I'm sure Xmas babies flurry as more people get drunk and worry less about it!

SantaKittenClaws Fri 07-Dec-12 11:53:46

oh bridget I completely agree with the unpredictability of which pg announcements you get upset about - for example, oldest friend, brother's wife and suspicion of another friend possibly ttc #2 - all absolutely fine, not a hint of the green eyed monster, just pure happiness for them all. On the other hand, SIL (on DHs side) announcement hit me like a train, I was gutted. It's not even like we see them that often! Weird.

Ok so TMI warning - started taking epo yesterday (CD1) and already noticing changes....AF seems to be much heavier than normal, and much more bright red blood rather than darker/old blood like I usually get (sorry, sorry...). This is a good thing right? Like having a proper uterine spring clean?! Anyone had similar?

RedRobin1 Fri 07-Dec-12 12:25:15

santa I had the same with EPO, I normally got brown, clots in bleed etc. but with taking EPO on CD 1, I had a really clean bright red blood, with almost no clots. And it felt less painful and much more better in terms of flow. so fingers crossed its prepping for a warm welcome for a fertilized eggie.

weetinselchops Fri 07-Dec-12 12:46:54

santa and red are you supposed to take the epo on cd1? Af has finally arrived after 35 days, so I'm willing to give something a shot this month!

RedRobin1 Fri 07-Dec-12 13:01:55

wee I am taking 2000mg epo from CD1 - CD12
I OV around cd14/16 so will stop taking it after CD12.

SantaKittenClaws Fri 07-Dec-12 13:49:56

wee ditto what red said smile I'll probably start opks around CD8 just in case of early ov which apparently can happen with epo.

Thanks red good to know it's normal. Agree about feeling better in terms of flow - it's like previous AFs haven't really ever got going properly in comparison.

BridgetandtheHairyBaubles Fri 07-Dec-12 14:00:12

Gosh, think I'll give the EPO a miss (for the time being) - I bleed for England once a month already and definitely wouldn't welcome even more 'flow'.

So af should be gone today so I guess from tomorrow I will be officially ttc baby #3, just ordered my opk's and pregnancy tests (incase luck is on my side) my oh will probably go nuts coz I promised I wouldn't obsess this time, but he will just have to deal, lol grin

threepiecesuite Fri 07-Dec-12 15:40:53

Hoping for a Christmas bfp here, been ttc #2 since April. Doing everything right, but nowt's happening. Lots of pg announcements atm, gritted teeth all round.

SantaKittenClaws Fri 07-Dec-12 15:56:03

grin at bleeding for england bridget

ooh linda exciting - happy TTC Eve!

three lots of us here know how that feels, fx for your xmas bfp.

Awww thank u kitten grin

fatasbrandybutter Fri 07-Dec-12 16:26:21

I've just ordered some conceive plus from amazon! Might get some epo too actually. So far I've been avoiding doing all these things but why not eh?
Anyone recommend conceive plus? Am worried it may be quite messy and as we are at the in laws for some of the 'critical' period it could be awkward!!! blush
So 2000mg epo is the recommended dose was it?!

Fatas I've never used the conceive plus but did use preseed while trying for my 2nd ds, might try the conceive plus if we have no bfp over the next couple of months though grin

SantaKittenClaws Fri 07-Dec-12 18:06:21

fatas I've got conceive plus for the first time this month too, have heard lots of good things about it around here. Also lots of BFPs after first use too - which could be coincidence of course but I'm choosing to believe not! grin

From the googling research I've done it seems that the recommended EPO dose is between 1500-3000mg a day. I thought I'd plump for the middle and see how it goes!

I've also started DH on wellman conception multivitamins this month too - we're going all out in the kitten household!

BelissimaLol Fri 07-Dec-12 18:48:27

Fatas I used conceive plus without telling DH and it's not that messy. You just need a little bit. Used it for two months and for pg on third. Same as epo. Again not sure it helped but I felt I wanted to be doing something. That made the waiting easier!

RedRobin1 Fri 07-Dec-12 19:18:45

I have been using conceive plus too for the last few months but no bfp yet hmm hoping to see some magic happen this month though!

Hi three!
Out with friends tonight and contemplating getting wasted...I think I'm going to go for it smile

fatasbrandybutter Fri 07-Dec-12 22:05:27

Thanks all! Good to hear it gets good reports - I've ordered the individual tubes so will give them a go when af comes and goes!

Go for it red - have a wineor two for me too! (Too lazy to go out tonight wink)

fatasbrandybutter Fri 07-Dec-12 22:06:20

Lol if u don't use much are the individual applicators too much?!

Monthlyfestivities Fri 07-Dec-12 22:22:20

Hi, thought this looked like a lucky thread. It was started on the 6th is significant for me

Cycle 8 ttc no. 1 BFP due 19th December

Monthlyfestivities Fri 07-Dec-12 22:23:52

Stupid question, what's Epo?

SantaKittenClaws Fri 07-Dec-12 23:19:03

Hi monthly, hope the 6th stays lucky for you! smile EPO = evening primrose oil (er...unless you happen to be a pro cyclist in which case I understand its some kind of dodgy performance enhancing drug! Definitely eve prim oil for us though!)

red it's Friday and you deserve a drink! DH and I had date night tonight so I've had half a bottle of wine, a cocktail, an amaretto and am now sipping a huge baileys on the sofa smile I demand you join me! grin

BelissimaLol Sat 08-Dec-12 08:13:36

Fatas personally I think one whole individual one is too much and it will leave you rather slippery wink. If you have them I would use half or even a third tbh. A little goes a long way.
I was only taking 1000mg epo. I did read about higher doses but found it too much.
Work Xmas do tonight and have a fake kidney infection. Can't remember the last time I was sober at a work do!

Morning ladies, just a wee quick ? Was just wondering what EPO does in the way of helping conception or does it just help keep u a bit healthier? xxx

Monthlyfestivities Sat 08-Dec-12 10:43:20

Same as what linda said, think going to get some before next cycle

Thingymajigs Sat 08-Dec-12 11:30:09

santakittenclaws I also had a very, very heavy period this cycle after starting EPO. It was over much quicker but it was a nightmare for 2 days. I hadn't linked the two because I wasn't sure if it worked that quickly. I'm really interested to see if anyone else gets an earlier ovulation after taking EPO.
The kids are away for two days so we have peace and quiet for a bit. I'd love to have a glass of wine with some films tonight but I'm 4 or 6 dpo so I have to be good. I'll just break open a box of chocolates instead. Hope everyone is having a lovely weekend.

Thingymajigs Sat 08-Dec-12 11:36:01

linda and monthly, I believe EPO is supposed to increase the watery/egg white fertile cervical mucus. I've found it also shortened my period but made it really heavy and I ovulated a few days earlier but all of this could be a coincidence. Dosage seems to be anywhere from 500mg-3000mg a day from CD1 to just before ovulation (you have to stop then because it might cause uterine contractions). I'm lowering my dosage next cycle from 3000mg to 1000mg.

Thanks thingy, think I'll give it a go next cycle so if it helps any xxx

HettySunshine Sat 08-Dec-12 13:07:08

Hi, I've only just started ttc. Cd1 of cycle 2 (first day of my first proper period after coming off the pill - is that right terminology? I'm new to all of this!). Am I okay to join your thread even though I haven't been trying for long? It'd be lovely to be part of a gang as we haven't told anyone in rl.

Good luck everyone fx smile

Hi Hetty and welcome grin I'm just on my 1st month of ttc, had coil removed on Monday and started af on Tuesday so on cd5 now. Good luck and I hope all goes well for you smile

HettySunshine Sat 08-Dec-12 14:20:49

You too Linda!

Here's to babies in September/ October for all of us!

grin

I just hope that was a proper af I had this week and not a reaction bleed to having the coil removed so I can start ttc now, be gutted if it wasn't and I have to wait longer hmm

HettySunshine Sat 08-Dec-12 17:18:40

How do you find out Linda? Do you have to go back to the doc's? Fx for you if so. X

I've bought loads of opk's Hetty so I'll just start testing for ovulation around the time I think it should be and hope it works. Think it was af though so here's hoping. Fx for you too grin x

Monthlyfestivities Sat 08-Dec-12 22:56:58

Thanks thingy i'll add in EPO in next month. My first thought was that it was the performance enhancing drug!!

Every month I add in something new! Just ttc, then next cycle branded vitamins, then opk, then temping, then vita west DHA capsules, next cycle EPO!

Lol @ monthly, I was the same, I looked up EPO and thought I'm not taking that, lol, was relieved to find out it wasn't that grin

Thingymajigs Sun 09-Dec-12 08:12:15

Haha, yeah it's evening primrose oil. I know what you mean, I'm doing so many different things each month in a bid to get pregnant it's getting ridiculous. I had to get rid of the OPK's though, they were annoying. I'd get a positive OPK but not ovulate till 4 days later after we'd already exhausted ourselves. I don't mind temping though or taking EPO, it makes me feel like I'm at least doing something to help the process along.

Thingy I've never done the temping before, gona look it up though and maybe give it a try, heard its a more reliable way of timing things than the opk's, I'll wait til next cycle though as I think this cycle might be a little off with just getting the coil removed

SantaKittenClaws Sun 09-Dec-12 09:25:40

Morning ladies, <waves> to hetty smile

CD4 here, AF has left the building after 1.5 heavyish (for me) days plus 1 day of barely there spotting, and the shagathon started this morning. I think BILs announcement last week has spooked DH a bit as he seems to be on a mission this month - will enjoy making the most of that I think grinwink

I'll be interested to hear about all of your temping adventures, might consider giving that a go myself next month.

Hope everyone's having a lovely weekend.

twinklestar2 Sun 09-Dec-12 10:04:28

Hosted an Xmas party last night so hungover this morning!!!

Bit worried about the comment about getting a positive opk then oving 4 days later. As my positives were mon and tues and I think I had a tiny bit of EWCM yesterday.

Thingymajigs Sun 09-Dec-12 10:53:30

I wouldn't worry twinkle I think I'm quite unusual in that regard. I asked around but no one else had a delay after getting a positive OPK. They just don't seem to work for me. I think I have a long LH surge. Sorry, I didn't mean to worry anyone.
santakittenclaws it's amazing what a bit of competition can do to encourage men isn't it? My boyfriend is exactly the same.
linda temping is great if you want to know if you have definitely ovulated but its no good if you want to know in advance because you'll only know once ovulation has already happened. At the end of the day you don't need anything but some fun and well timed sex so it's best to relax and enjoy it as much as you can.

Ah I see, I don't think I'll need to temp then, I know I ovulate coz I get the pain and ovulation spotting so that with opk's I should be fine. Think I'll wait til after next af to properly start trying though just incase the coil has messed my cycle up and that'll give me some time to get my lo out of my bed and back into his own aswell, he's damn cute but bloody murder for my sex life, lol

twinklestar2 Sun 09-Dec-12 12:54:28

Did a quick dtd!! Swear I had EWCM yest and I just went to have a shower and could swear I saw more so I did a quick dtd before we have a house guest for the next week or so!

Even though the monitor peaked at the beginning of the week I just don't want to miss an opportunity just in case.

twinkle - def! I thought I had def ov around cd13 cos I had ewcm on cd12/13 but cos my proper bfp didn't show up til cd32 it's more likely i ov a few days later and if we'd stopped dtd when I thought the fertile time was over we would have missed it, so go you!!!

Girls I am just feeling like an anxious wreck being pg this time round. I knew it was likely to be like this aftre mmc in the summer but i didn't realise how awful it would feel. I was beside myself yesterday sad Had a birthday party to go out to last night (in costume!) tho which was great cos it took my mind off things completely for a few hours and feeling a bit better today but I think the next couple of months are going to be tough going hmm

twinklestar2 Sun 09-Dec-12 15:20:20

Hugs littlemiss, not sure what to say as I haven't experienced it before but try and stay positive.

Monthlyfestivities Sun 09-Dec-12 18:55:49

I do opk and temping because I have PCOS and completely irregular cycles, can ovulate anywhere from day 21-40 so can't time dtd, charting helps me make sense and try and learn the signals. Also getting more information to see if I ovulate or not when stupid GP decides not to make me wait 18montgs and refers me fertility clinic.

If only is was as easy as knowing which day you ovulate on and when to dtd!

BelissimaLol Sun 09-Dec-12 19:03:23

Little miss why don't hit join us in the ttc after mc thread (losing track of who is where so apologies if you are already there!)
We all feel exactly the same as you. Panicking every second and scared of everything. Plus obsessively knicker checking.
Twinkle I'm also intrigued by this late ov thing. I will let you know if the same happened to me when I find out when I conceived. Think you did good by adding an extra shag just in case! I'm counting the days on your tww and its taking ages!!

BridgetandtheHairyBaubles Sun 09-Dec-12 20:51:17

Evening one and all.

Twinkle please can I pick your brain about your monitor? Is it the clearblue easy one? Is it actually easy to use? And do you think it has been worth investing in?

Rather worryingly, I'm starting to feel seriously under-sexed in relation to everyone else on the conception board.

fatasbrandybutter Sun 09-Dec-12 22:02:21

Ah littlemiss I know exactly how you feel - that is what I have been like too - since April (it has been tiring!!) - I actually did join the ttc thread Lol but tbh so many people did end up having BFPs and still mine didn't arrive so I even stopped reading that thread blush - I am just too impatient!!

Winkle and kitten - I am super impressed at your dtd antics so far and how you have got dh on board - I am working on that but he is of the 'less I know' and lazy fu**er variety so it's reverse psychology and sudden pouncing methinks! lol! wink

Not sure that I could cope with the temping too- stress levels already at permanent def-con1 and haven't even got as far as a BFP yet! x

twinklestar2 Sun 09-Dec-12 22:18:39

Bridget - yes it's the CBFM. I like it, it tells you when to dtd which is good. Been using it since July. I brought it because I got a bonus from work otherwise it's quite dear. Although I do think the opks are good though - especially the digi ones.

twinklestar2 Sun 09-Dec-12 22:20:35

Fatas - oh upped his game when he realised that it wasn't going to be easy for us. Next year we're both giving up our occasional cigarette habit and giving up drinking. Hope it helps!

twinklestar2 Sun 09-Dec-12 22:22:32

We've dtd cd13, 15, 16, 17, and 21 - hope its enough!!

stickybeans Mon 10-Dec-12 07:07:12

grin I'm post #100!!! hee hee grin

RedRobin1 Mon 10-Dec-12 09:11:33

thats good going winkle - we are throwing everything at it this month too. Feel a bit sore from all the shagging. I think I pulled a muscle too so have a slight limp blush

I think the extra shag was def good idea as LH can peak on OPKs and come up as positive, but the egg is released anytime between 24-36 hours after the peak. The thing is it's difficult to tell because you don't know how long you have been 'peaking' for. So always safe to have that extra shag smile

I have been temping too, and using OPKs this month. Waiting for my FF crosshairs to show up so it confirms that I actually do ovulate! My OPKs are still negative. I can feel sharp pains in my left and right ovaries since the last 2 days. I always get OV pain 2-3 days before OV.

Does anyone feel OV pain few days before +ve OPKs or before ovulation? Just wondered if its normal to get the pain before or should it be during OV?

BelissimaLol Mon 10-Dec-12 09:25:58

Red I had pains on left side on day of smiley and was sure I'd ovulated then. But when I had the scan I was told I ovulated from right side so I've no clue what happened!

SantaKittenClaws Mon 10-Dec-12 09:29:46

Morning ladies, happy Monday smile

A sympathetic grin at your shag-induced injury red - there are definitely worse ways to pull a muscle! Can't really help with your ov pain question though as I've never noticed any symptoms myself (could just not be paying close enough attention though!). I'd say it would make sense to feel something a couple of days pre-ov though as that will be when all your follicles are busy growing and doing their follicle-y thang won't it?

Hugs for littlemiss sounds obvious but try not to worry - at the end of the day it's kind of out of your hands now so you need to concentrate on looking after yourself and staying healthy. To be purely practical about it, worrying isn't going to be productive or helpful so you may as well not! smile

SantaKittenClaws Mon 10-Dec-12 09:30:42

Wow lol they can tell which side you ov'd from after you've conceived??! That's pretty amazing...

RedRobin1 Mon 10-Dec-12 10:26:37

kitten I think yes you are right! I googled and apparently the growing follicles can cause OV pain few days before OV. My pelvic scan showed I had 16 follicles on the left and 14 on the right. So maybe thats why so much pain.

Seeing the GP next week to get results of my blood tests and an explanation of the pelvic scan. Praying its not PCOS and my LH levels come back normal.

twinkle how long did your DH wait to get his second SA done?

RedRobin1 Mon 10-Dec-12 10:28:37

Yes I think they can see the ruptured follicle from where you ovulated and sometimes it even has some remnants of blood, so they can clearly tell which side you OV from in your pregnancy scan.

lol and littlemiss time to put your feet up and fx you both will have very happy and healthy pregnancies.

lol - I was on the ttc after mc thread in the summer and now we have a graduates thread but the other ladies are all a good bit further on than me so i might join that thread too. First tri is going to be awful!! I've almost just told myself to expect the worst so if the 11 week scan is good news then i'll be happy but i won't get too attached so if it's not good news i'll (hopefully) be able to cope. Argh!! Hating this!!

red - feel your pain..ouch!! And honestly don't get stressed about pcos, if that's what the results say then at least you'll know so you'll be able to get stuck into the agnus castus!!

winkle - i dtd around same days as you last cycle, hope it works for you too!! grin

alliwantforxmas Mon 10-Dec-12 17:00:32

Hello Ladies,

Do you mind if I join your thread. AF arrived this morning so will be dtd like mad again for the next month. We are ttc our first, and this is our 4th cycle.

Feel a lot more positive this cycle. I am started taking Pregnacare Conception at the end of last cycle, and already feel a lot more perkier in myself. Ordered some of the Wellman Conception for dh to start this month. We also get to try our new Clearblue Fertlity Monitor this month - hoping to see some peak days.

As I have thyroid issues I am also having LH, FSH, etc tests run this month so hopefully they will be ok, but I have made lots of positive changes to my diet. Dh and I are eating lots of Brazil Nuts (read they are good for fertility), and I am drinking whole milk (also read that was good for egg production). If I don't get my BFP in the New Year, will follow you ladies and try EPO as well.

Liz xxx

fatasbrandybutter Mon 10-Dec-12 19:19:52

Welcome all ! And welcome All! He he!
Keeping fx for all of us on this Fred!
Am still waiting for af - have got my pre-af week of spotting but af not due til thurs! Bit annoying really as want to get on with dtd like all the rest of you! grin

twinklestar2 Mon 10-Dec-12 19:49:53

Red - he went back after 3 months as that's his long it takes for new sorts to be made. Good luck for your tests next week.

Welcome Liz, looks like you're doing all the rights things smile

weetinselchops Mon 10-Dec-12 20:37:02

fatas I'm waiting for af to leave, and dh to get home next week before we can get down to business smile Definitely, definitely in with a good shot this month. There will be no last minute rota changes, no leaving early, no extra days. Gotta love Christmas smile

Smile87 Mon 10-Dec-12 21:20:03

Praying for my bfp smile

RedRobin1 Tue 11-Dec-12 08:51:40

fx wee this will be your month. Hope AF finishes soon!

we've dtd on Cd6,7,9,12 and 13. I am due to OV any time now but we didn't manage to dtd last night (cd14) and DH is away till Wed. Don't know if we'll be able to cover OV sad We really wanted to but were so so shattered yesterday but now I am wishing we had made the effort....

temps and OPKs haven't detected OV yet. hope it stays that way till Wed.

twinklestar2 Tue 11-Dec-12 09:08:31

Red - don't worry. You're supposed to dtd every 2-3 days so weds won't be too late plus you'll have swimmers in you from Sunday.

SantaKittenClaws Tue 11-Dec-12 09:54:47

Yeah I second what winkle said, I son't think you need to worry sounds like you've covered your bases pretty well, and you can jump DH on Wednesday just to make doubly sure smile

Welcome alliwant - good luck with all your tests!

resipsa Tue 11-Dec-12 10:07:15

So this is where you are all hiding! Is the festive name change mandatory? Been considering Santaresipsa - has a sort of Italiany but festive sound. What do you think? Not read the rest of the new thread yet but hope everyone is well. Nice to see you were thinking of me in my absence, too!
I'm going a teeny bit mad today, actually. On Sunday, about 8-9DPO, I had one spot of red blood. Just one. Bit odd. Fast forward 3 days' worth of googling and I'm convinced, of course, that it was implantation bleeding...only two days to go to see if I'm right!

BelissimaLol Tue 11-Dec-12 10:17:48

Ooh exciting res! When are you poas then?
Yeah we were missing you grin
Lots of action next week then from res red winkle and pip?
Can't take all the excitement grin

resipsa Tue 11-Dec-12 10:50:33

Hi lol - can you not bear to leave us??? How're you feeling?

BelissimaLol Tue 11-Dec-12 11:58:25

Hi res no I can't leave you grin. I will leave when you all get a bfp and come with me. It's lonely out there.
Unless I'm not welcome confused...
I'm feeling ok. Very tired and as hungry as a lion. Had a scan ten days ago and have another one this Friday. Am terrified but think that's unavoidable.
How u feeling?

Thingymajigs Tue 11-Dec-12 11:59:32

That sounds promising resipsa I'm the same with Googling atm. I'm 9dpo and my breasts are leaking colostrum. blush I'm trying to be sensible about it but its difficult not to get my hopes up. I haven't breastfed in 8 years but I did have some leakage when I came off the pill so it's not that unexpected really. I'll avoid telling my partner because I still feel like an idiot from last months "symptoms."

Thingymajigs Tue 11-Dec-12 12:14:44

Oh god. I've googled it and most of them with this symptom reported a BFP later on. This is not helping. I'm going to forget about it by forcing myself to read the Hobbit before we see it this weekend. I need distractions.

RedRobin1 Tue 11-Dec-12 12:44:42

oooo res and thingy I can hardly contain my excitement. Not long to go till you get that dec bfp. Fingers and toes crossed!

Thanks winkle and kitten feel a bit relieved - never thought about Sunday's deposit coming so handy! We did it twice on Sunday but I didn't count the second time as I was on top blush so not sure how much went the right way!

How's your mission for Dec going kitten ? AF gone?

thingy - i noticed that about 10 days ago before i got my bfp and i hadn't b/f since about May 2011 so I thought it was weird. FX FOR U!!

res - ooh that does sound good! FX FOR U TOO!!

lol - yes it is lonely and weird out there on the bfp / due in August threads. Feels too soon to leave safe space of ttc thread!!

I did a clearblue digi last night (too impatient to wait for FMU!) and I got bfp 3 weeks plus, so I am probably a little over 5 weeks and my hormone levels are increasing as they should be. Had some very light staining in CM (sorry tmi) this morning tho, but it was really just a very thin tinge of pale brown not at all like the bleeding I had the last time at 9 weeks which was, unfortunately, more like heavy spotting and bright red and which did not end well. Keep trying to remind myself that very light staining at 5 weeks is normal, likely to just be implantation bleeding, HCG levels are apparently fine and I have no cramping. But of course after last time even the slightest tinge of anything at all sets alarm bells ringing sad If that's all there is I'm just going to try and wait it out and discuss it with GP when I see him on 20th, hopefully he will refer me over for an early scan cos forking out £90 for a private one right around xmas will be a bit ouch... In the meantime...STAYING POSITIVE (through gritted teeth lol)

Thingymajigs Tue 11-Dec-12 13:57:34

Oh little I hope a scan can reassure you soon. You must be so anxious. I'm far more aware of the risks this time around so I imagine I'll also feel scared for the first trimester.
Thanks red It would be so lovely to have a Christmas BFP but I'm trying not to get my hopes up too much. Good luck with the results next week btw.

resipsa Tue 11-Dec-12 14:16:25

Lol - of course you're welcome! Glad all is going OK. We can't have you feeling virtually lonely at Xmas smile
Hi red, fatas, wee, kitten & winkle.
And littlemiss - how're you feeling?
Have I been fooled by any other name changes? Thingy - are we acquainted?

SantaKittenClaws Tue 11-Dec-12 14:24:34

Oooh thingy and res that's exciting for you both - a couple of christmas bfps would be a lovely way to end the year! grin

Hugs for you little, sounds like it's nothing at all but can understand why you'd be worrying. Hope the 20th comes round quickly for you!

<gentle friendly arm punch> for lol of course you're welcome don't be daft!

red yep af has gone and it's game on for cycle 9! AF only lasted 1.5 days plus a day of spotting, so we're 2 dtd's down and only on CD5....wonder if we can keep it up for a fortnight/3 weeks! confused <knackered emoticon>

Thingymajigs Tue 11-Dec-12 14:27:48

Hi resipsa, no, we aren't acquainted, I just joined this thread a month ago.

RedRobin1 Tue 11-Dec-12 14:42:42

hahaha res sorry, the name changes are confusing indeed.
btw that spot of blood sounds very positive. fx for you.

lol please do stick around.

kitten keep going.... space it out to every two days and every other day during fertile period. You can do it! I used a lot of conceive plus to avoid getting too sore grin

resipsa Tue 11-Dec-12 14:47:44

Well then, hi thingy. Let's hope your leaking nipples and my leaking, um, front bottom are indeed good signs! I'm fluctuating every half hour between convinced it's good news and sure it's no news...
littlemiss sod the cost, get the scan if GP won't refer you.

fatasbrandybutter Tue 11-Dec-12 23:00:01

Hi res!! What about resipsanta ?!! Your possible IB symptom sounds exciting!!

Go kitten! Get your leg over girl!

Leaky boobs sound promising thingy - not sure I've ever said that before!!!

twinklestar2 Tue 11-Dec-12 23:17:15

Sounds promising res, got my fingers crossed for you

Thingy - you too.

Exciting stuff!!

resipsa Wed 12-Dec-12 08:35:46

Hi winkle!
I caved and tested when I got home from work after drinking 600mls of Diet Coke about 3pm. I must have been 11DPO at most. My logical side says it was BFN (but would have been in those circumstances anyway). My illogical side says there was a very, very faint line. Gawd, why do we do this to ourselves??? Gonna wait until Fri then see where I am...
Thingy any news?

RedRobin1 Wed 12-Dec-12 09:44:03

res did you see a line? and yes 11dpo is very early so it should get darker by Friday! Fingers crossed for you.

for those who are temping - my temps have started to rise and I have dotted crosshairs which confirm I ovulated on Monday CD14, but my internet cheapie OPK was -ve. I had 4 pints of water that day so my wee was diluted blush when I did the OPK. Could this be an explanation for the -ve result?
do I take it I have OVed?

Going to go for an extra shag tonight to cover all bases!

Thingymajigs Wed 12-Dec-12 10:25:09

Great news res! Please let us know when you take another test.
I caved and tested today at 10dpo. It was negative and now I'm feeling quite negative. More Googling has revealed that lactation at odd times could be a sign of a hormone imbalance which could indicate a tumour, PCOS or liver disease. Christ, this week has taken a turn for the worst. I'm going to see a doctor tomorrow to get a blood test. Sorry, just needed to get that off my chest this morning as I'm not telling my partner about any of this atm.
red, it's quite common to miss the LH surge so I wouldn't worry about that. The dotted crosshairs indicate a possible ovulation date. The information on the chart might be conflicting so sometimes it uses a dotted line to show that its not 100%. If the temps stay up for 3 days then you can be far more certain that you've ovulated. That's a good idea to get one more try in. I try not to stop until I see 3 high temps.

resipsa Wed 12-Dec-12 10:26:52

Go for it red!
Now, temps, I get but dotted crosshairs...is this ferning?

weetinselchops Wed 12-Dec-12 10:42:03

res ooh that's so exciting!

red go for it!

I'm so looking forward to dh coming home. Decided to be Mrs Claus for his homecoming wink He likes things like that but I always feel quite self conscious of my flabby tummy and thighs. But it's a Christmas treat smile

RedRobin1 Wed 12-Dec-12 10:42:21

thanks thingy I have had high temps for 2 days and the only conflict is the -ve OPK. I will follow your advice and look out for 3 days of raised temps to be sure. I am desperately hoping I did OV on Monday as we had lots of sex on the weekend - so def be a few spermies waiting around. Hoping my body didn't gear for OV and hasn't yet OVed.

res lol crosshairs are dotted lines on a chart - don't know why they are called cross hairs but they cross each other like x and y axis on a graph!

thingy hope you are okay - good to get a blood test done, just so you are on the safe side. dr. google is very scary so don't believe everything you read.

thing - 10dpo is still v early to test. I've never had a bfp at 10 dpo, earliest i've had one is 12 dpo. Hope you're ok and keeping fx for you that you maybe just tested too early?

red - pinpointing OV is a tricky business!! Just shag whenever you can and keep your bases covered? Good luck for this cycle

weetinsel - lol love it mrs claus!! last time my DH got anything like that was a kind of naughty schoolgirl type effort i put together at the last minute for his 30th 6 months ago. You think you'll feel like an idiot...but then... ah it's all good fun!!

kitten - yes, keep calm and carry on shagging!!

res - oooooohhhhh i wish i had a pic of my v faint bfp from cd30 i was about to chuck test in bin as a bfn at 2 minute mark and then i saw...something...so i waited til the full 3 mins had passed and there was a very faint line on my crappy tesco test. did another tesco one that afternoon. same thing. decided not to drink at the party i was going to that night and did a test the next afternoon which was day af was due with a clearblue. more definite line. 2 days later proper bfp. a line is a line is a line etc etc wink keeping everything crossed!!

Thingymajigs Wed 12-Dec-12 11:23:53

You are right little I knew it was early but there were tests in the house so I couldn't stop myself. I'll be patient and stop Googling things.
weetinsel I bet your dh will love that. I wish I could dress up but I just feel so daft and self conscious.

resipsa Wed 12-Dec-12 12:59:35

Google - so good and yet so bad for you hmm
By the way, where's when?

ReindeerOutdoors Wed 12-Dec-12 13:10:08

Hi resipsa (festive name change, it's sunshineoutdoors I remember you from previous threads)

I'm excited at your possible news, any more updates?

resipsa Wed 12-Dec-12 13:17:42

Hi sunshine - how're you?

I feel that I am building myself up for a huge fall now. Everytime I go to the loo, I have to tell myself - "well, you didn't really believe it'd happen did you" as a coping mechanism!

I feel weird - like I did when pregnant in Jan 12 - but I said the same in June, July and August and wasn't so guess it's just the effects of raging hormones!!!

RedRobin1 Wed 12-Dec-12 13:35:44

I am getting copious amounts of EWCM today and had the same yesterday.

So I def don't think I would have ovulated. Argh! Why is the body soooo damn unpredictable. Just want two cycles that are similar. So far none of mine seem to be.

I guess like you say littlemiss just keep shagging.

hi sunshine how are you?

ReindeerOutdoors Wed 12-Dec-12 19:48:27

Hi resipsa how many dpo are you? I managed to hold out until 2 days after af due this time - don't know how I did it.

red I'd keep shagging if I were you! I keep shagging in the 2ww anyway to make it go quicker, if you do it eod that's only 7 shags then the wait is over!

Good luck to you both.

By my estimates I think I'm 5 weeks pg now. Just so paranoid it's not going to work out, getting obsessed with how many cups of tea I'm having etc. It seems like forever until first scan so I'm just trying not to think about it too much, it won't feel real unless I get ms like I did last time, at about 7 weeks. Can't believe I'm wishing for that!

Really really hoping that there are more bfps before Christmas. Really want it to happen for all on here, that would be my Christmas wish. Look after yourselves and shag lots and put your feet up after smile

fatasbrandybutter Wed 12-Dec-12 21:54:08

Oh res I think it sounds hopeful but i know what you mean about not wanting to get your hopes up! It pulls you both ways doesn't it?!

Thingy dr Google is notorious! I'm surprised you haven't got yourself already dead and buried! Stop googling immediately!!

sunshine and lol - glad to hear all going well with you both!

Well I think I'm cd1 here! Bit confused tho! Am due on tomorrow but yesterday and today very heavy bleeding increasingly and now the usual pains - don't normally get 3 or 4 days run up like that which is a bit odd but all seems more normal for a cd1 this evening so I've popped the enormous EPOs! So def no pre-christmas BFP for me - who else is around the same as me??
BFP due 9th January! Any testing buddies??? grin

ReindeerOutdoors Thu 13-Dec-12 07:28:09

Oh no, fatas sorry about af. But does this mean you'll be oving near Christmas Day? Could be a lucky time smile

Sorry about af fatas, but a new year bfp will be just as good as an xmas one and like reindeer said xmas eve will be a v lucky ov time!

reindeer - think im just a couple of days ahead of you and it is so.nervewracking!! Did u do a digi test and get your 3 weeks plus since conception. I did that on Monday and it was reassuring to see that. I wasnt expecting sickness to kick in for another week or so but feeling a bit iffy this morning!
Any more news res? Or thingy?

How are you doing twinkle & red?

fatasbrandybutter Thu 13-Dec-12 08:17:41

Ah yes thanks sunshine a lucky Xmas ov! Didn't think of that!! Shaggin at the in-laws will certainly be ... interesting! (And somewhat furtive!!) grin

RedRobin1 Thu 13-Dec-12 09:01:27

Sorry about AF fatas but as sunshine says a christmas conception will be lovely!

I think I def didn't OV on Monday, got two more shags in! we've dtd cd6,7,9,12,13,16,17. whew! thats it I don't think DH and I can do anymore shagging. We are both exhausted from it.

I think if it doesn't work this month, atleast I'll feel we timed it right and threw all we had at it. I am OVing today, got a +ve OPK and temps have dipped too. Really hope one strong and lucky sperm is making its way to my egg.

SantaKittenClaws Thu 13-Dec-12 09:29:12

Aahh fatas angry sad to your bloody AF no pun intended honest
I'm about a week ahead of you, BFP due New Year's Day.

<high fives red> fab work on the shagging and brilliant to have the confirmation of ov from temps and opks - you know you've covered your bases this month smile

I'm feeling very positive for us all this month you know - littlemiss and sunshine hang in there I reckon we're ALL coming to join you in the new year grin

CD8 for me, will start opks today in case of early ov, think I'll stop epo after Saturday (CD10) either way just to be safe as I've had a couple of 24 day cycles recently and don't want to push my luck with it.

RedRobin1 Thu 13-Dec-12 10:29:30

good thinking kitten I like the positive mental attitude. I am actually feeling very positive within my body too. I hope this is our month.

Oh yes, I stopped taking EPO at CD10 too, just to be on safe side. I have been wet like a fish during my fertile period (cd9-17) and very good quality CM - an increase in quantity too.

Thingymajigs Thu 13-Dec-12 12:33:02

I'm exhausted just reading that red. It always seems like loads when you are actually at it but afterwards when I'm looking at my chart I still think its not enough. I have to remind myself that it only takes the one to make it through.
fatas I know, Dr Google has diagnosed me with terminal cancer many times over so you'd think I would've learned by now. Let us know how you get on with EPO. I'm really interested to see if anyone else gets an early ovulation because mine was nearly 5 days early this month.
How are you feeling little and reindeer and the other bumpers? No morning sickness I hope.
I've got no news, sorry guys. I haven't taken a test and I think I'll leave it now until my period is due.

Thingymajigs Thu 13-Dec-12 12:42:43

santakittenclaws Your positivity is infectious. I think I need a heavy dose of that atm so thank you! Again, I'd love to know how EPO works out for you this month. I'm definitely giving it another go on my next cycle.

Yes kitten, i want you all to join us!!! I'm feeling very positive for all of you too grin

Feeling wretched today! It's funny, I got loads of stuff done in work this week and cos I am part time I don't work Thurs and Fri. Felt this very satisfied feeling leaving work yesterday like, yes, I've got plenty done, now I can just relax, take it easy and enjoy the run up to Christmas. Woke up this morning feeling wretched so I'm guessing I'll be in and out of work a lot like I was the last two pgs! Going to force me and DS out for an hour now cos I want to buy some curtains for living room and if I feel sick now I'm sure it's just a preview of what is ahead. Strangely happy about this! I want a good strong sticky baby in there so high hormone levels, weeping and constant nausea are all good things!!

resipsa Thu 13-Dec-12 15:06:01

Hi guys. Liking the positive vibes here. I'm still being a coward and no tests until tomorrow. I want to hold on to the fantasy just a wee bit longer...
Fatas imagine in September 2013 looking down and thinking "now that was a good present"!

twinklestar2 Thu 13-Dec-12 15:12:56

Yes res I want that feeing!!!! A child would be the best present ever

fatasbrandybutter Thu 13-Dec-12 16:18:41

That's such a lovely thought res! I wish I shared your optimism! I just feel as if it will never happen but am not too depressed about it as Christmas is distracting me! wink

Good luck for tomorrow res - I feel so excited for you! X

RedRobin1 Thu 13-Dec-12 16:20:42

Me too! I want that same present - it will be the bestest pressie ever. The best Christmas ever.

Right so we need to swap the stork for a reindeer and tell santa we'd all like bfps instead of handbags and gin this year!

alliwantforxmas Thu 13-Dec-12 17:12:09

Hello Ladies,

Just been reading through the thread. Big congrats to everyone who has their BFP already.

AF left yesterday so back dtd last night (obv way too early for ov, but you never know). Also had my LH and FSH test done yesterday (CD 3) so hoping for good news when I see the doctor next week.

Looking forward to poas for my Clearblue Digital Monitor this month. Think it says it wants a sample CD 6 so Saturday. Anyone else used the Monitor before?

Like a few of you I will also be ov around Xmas Eve, so so hoping this is our lucky month! :-)

xxx

BelissimaLol Thu 13-Dec-12 17:53:07

So we have res tomorrow and who is poas after? Is it winkle?
Getting good vibes over here. Come on girls I'm lonely grin

resipsa Thu 13-Dec-12 19:22:55

Lol lol - hang on in there. Odds dictate one of us has to join you soon?
And where is when? Is she taking a break from MN too? :-(

twinklestar2 Thu 13-Dec-12 19:51:43

Hey alliwant - I use the monitor so ask me if you have any questions.

Hope when is just taking a break so she'll be able to make a grand entrance announcing her bfp! (but we'd like you to come before that too!!)

WhenSheWasBadSheWasHopeful Thu 13-Dec-12 23:09:26

Hi guys (especially my dear twin resipsa and littlemiss - it is lovely to be missed).

I've just been really busy, definitely no surprise BFP, we haven't dtd since Nov blush. Basically dh got ill with a hideous cold, after a week he gave it to dd. she was really sick we had to take her to a&e but she is find now.
Now I have the hideous cold.

Plus work has been horrible and busy so I haven't been on much. I don't have a hope of catching up. So I just want to say I hope everyone is doing well I have my fingers crossed for resipsa

ReindeerOutdoors Fri 14-Dec-12 07:40:54

Hi when <waves>

Hi when! Poor you with that run of illness sad no wonder you havent been dtd!! Hope ur all better for a nice relaxing xmas smile

res - so did u poas with fmu? Any more sign of that line??

RedRobin1 Fri 14-Dec-12 08:41:58

when hope you get better sooon - take plenty of rest and meds to make you better. Fx for your bfp in the new year.

I am feeling so tired today, this weather is making me so sleepy. Got a brew going. Just want some sunshine so I feel awake....

How's everyone doing today? res you done another test?

<waves> at allIwant

WhenSheWasBadSheWasHopeful Fri 14-Dec-12 10:12:52

Hi raindeer littlemiss & redrobin

Thanks for the get well wishes, still feeling like poo but at least I am getting the bugs out of the way for a decent Xmas.
Hope you wake up red

Waits patiently for resipsa to poas. Still have fx massively crossed.

fatasbrandybutter Fri 14-Dec-12 11:22:56

Oh when - feel better soon x
<Passes large mug of hot chocolate with marshmallows on top to when>

Hurry up res can't bear the suspense!! (Sorry if too much pressure... wink )

fatasbrandybutter Fri 14-Dec-12 11:24:21

Oops! Stupid phone! Was passing when a big mug of hot choc with marshmallows on and phone shortened it to when>!! Lol! wink

WhenSheWasBadSheWasHopeful Fri 14-Dec-12 12:02:22

Gratefully sips hot chocolate.

weetinselchops Fri 14-Dec-12 12:41:14

Hi when hope you start to feel better soon. we've all been struck with the lurgy too here but seems to be leaving now thankfully!

res another one waiting to hear good news from you. Have fingers tightly crossed

Hello alliwant I'm due to ov around xmas eve/xmas day too. Christmas miracle I hope!

alliwantforxmas Fri 14-Dec-12 12:56:55

Thought I would check into the thread. Sorry to hear when you have been ill. There is a lot going round and hope you feel better in time for Xmas.

Red I am so tired today too. Couldn't believe how dark it was this morning when we got up - thought it was still the middle of the night. Wish I lived somewhere hot and sunny....

weetinselchops looks like you'll be my testing buddy. Got my fx....

Just wondered if any of you girls knew the deal with Green Tea whilst ttc? I have a cup everyday (I think it tastes like poo, but try to drink it for its health-boosting properties), but read on another thread it stops absorption of Folic Acid. Spent the morning doing some mad Googling and its looks like opinion is def split. Some swear by it as it increased EWCM, but others not so sure. This ttc malarkey is enough to drive a sane person mad, let alone a slightly crazy individual like me! :-) x

WhenSheWasBadSheWasHopeful Fri 14-Dec-12 13:28:37

Thanks weetinsel and alliwant. Xmas ov sounds very exciting best of luck dtd.

I don't think green tea could have that much of an impact on folic acid levels. If you are taking a supplement you would probably have to drown yourself in the stuff before it impacted your levels.
I always take the view that everything in moderation is fine (obvious exceptions include heroine, crack and nicotine).
Best of luck.

resipsa Fri 14-Dec-12 13:51:59

sad here.
TTC makes fools of us all, doesn't it? So much for implantation bleeding and my "weird" feeling. (But it was really pregnant-like weird and after the early spot, I am now obsessed that the ERPC screwed me up and the egg/sperm met but the implantation failed - unlikely but I need to think something to stop me from crying again).
Sorry to disappoint but BFN here and to top it off, AF announced her arrival as I was doing the test. Might as well have chucked £10 down the loo!
Anyone got good news?
Hey, at least I can drink at Christmas. Whoopy do, she says weakly.
Hi when.

SantaKittenClaws Fri 14-Dec-12 14:02:07

sadsad res gutted for you. I guess the failed implantaton theory is plausible, but unlikely - and there's no way of knowing for sure. Have some thanks and a brew from me and a whole bottle of wine tonight

when sorry you've all been poorly sick, hope you feel better soon!

alliwant shock at the green tea revelation - I've been feeling all virtuous whenever I swap a normal tea for a green one! I think when is probably right though, the odd cup or two can't hurt surely...

resipsa Fri 14-Dec-12 14:03:58

Thanks kitten - wine would be a great idea if I weren't baby-sitting tonight! Badly planned, eh?

WhenSheWasBadSheWasHopeful Fri 14-Dec-12 14:06:52

Really sorry resipsa have some wine and thanks. Ttc does make a complete mug of everybody with the whole symptom spotting nightmare. Hope you have a good Xmas.

santakitten thanks for the message, hoping this cold will be over soon.

weetinselchops Fri 14-Dec-12 14:08:20

Aw res so sorry sad

resipsa Fri 14-Dec-12 14:16:12

Thanks you two. Am trying to feel better by telling myself CD1 is a good day because it might, just might, be the date from which my next pregnancy will be dated. It's not working...
Sorry you've been an ill house, when. It's knackering when a virus gets passed from one to the next and then you get hit by another as soon as it's passed.

Awk res sad sad nothing to say but just ((hugs))

It's not looking too good for me either. I was happy cos I should be 6 weeks tomorrow, I've been feeling really tired and yesterday I was so queasy and I got my 3 + weeks on the digi test a couple of days ago. Then I had some staining on Tuesday, just very light and hardly noticeable unless you're hyper aware of that kind of thing post-mc, so I felt a bit nervous but then there was nothing further for a few days so I was starting to feel tentatively confident again, esp with sickness starting yesterday. Today I had some more spotting. Again, very light, but more red-ish in colour. Really upset. Keep trying to tell myself it's not heavy bleeding and I'm not cramping but that's what I told myself last time with light spotting and then it was mmc. Phoned midwife and she told me that if no more spotting happens and/or it doesn't get heavier to sit tight over the weekend and she'll try and get me in to EPU on Monday for a scan to check on everything. Don't feel very positive though, can't help but feeling I'm just waiting to get some bad news. Right before Christmas sad

RedRobin1 Fri 14-Dec-12 16:29:33

Oh res sad ttc is a real b*tch! Hope Dh is around to give you a big hug and cuddle. Try watching a silly film to take your mind of it. Lots of hugs to you x

littlemiss how much spotting is it? It might just be old blood. It's a horrible feeling not knowing what's happening.

Thingymajigs Fri 14-Dec-12 17:12:50

Oh little I wish I could reassure you somehow, you must be so worried. I really hope it all stops over the weekend and you can relax finally.
Sorry to hear about AF res. I also try to cheer up by claiming CD1 as day 1 of my pregnancy which really seems to help.
I'm not going to test unless I'm late (after Tuesday). Right now I feel like I'm playing a game that's virtually impossible to win. A bit like doing the lottery each week knowing you won't win but at least by taking part you haven't thrown away that one in a million chance. I have to remind myself that it can and will happen for all of us.
Hope you all have a good weekend. I'll be thinking of you little. Please update us to let us know how you are doing.

alliwantforxmas Fri 14-Dec-12 17:25:00

little - will be thinking of you this weekend. Hope everything works out for you. Look after yourself.

res - AF is such a bummer, but at least you can drink and enjoy food like pate over Xmas. Hopefully this is our lucky month & santa will bring us all those BFP. Enjoy some chocolate tonight. xxx

SantaKittenClaws Fri 14-Dec-12 18:02:09

thanksthanksthanks and hugs for you little keeping everything crossed that its just nothing - it really could be you know so don't assume the worst. Hope you can stay copied up indoors and look after yourself this weekend.

SantaKittenClaws Fri 14-Dec-12 18:02:46

cosied not copied!

BelissimaLol Fri 14-Dec-12 18:03:15

Oh no little. I really hope it's just a scare. I totally know how you are feeling and nothing will reassure you but a scan. Let us know how you feeling over the weekend.
And confusedres!!! Boooo. I was so hopeful for you this month.

WhenSheWasBadSheWasHopeful Fri 14-Dec-12 18:16:10

Oh no little I really hope this is nothing.

I got a small amount of bleeding at wk 6 when pregnant with dd. It happened just after me and dh fooled around (didn't have sex but a good time was had by all). I am convinced it was the orgasm that disturbed the old blood and that's what caused the bleeding.

Any chance it could be something similar for you.

fatasbrandybutter Fri 14-Dec-12 22:12:02

Ah res I'm sorry about af. She's a bitch angry

And little I'm sorry too - although it may well be nothing sinister at all, the waiting is agony and not knowing is also painful so I will keep my fx hard for you <hugs>

And here I am about cd4 - I think
- and still waiting for af to bugger off so we can get busy! Forgot to take epo on 2nd day and now have gone away for the weekend! So am abandoning epo this month (am hopeless loser at remembering things at the moment!) - lets hope conceive plus on its own will get the job done!wink

resipsa Fri 14-Dec-12 22:23:56

Oh littlemiss I have everything crossed for you. I remember the feelings so well; you swap between optimism and hopelessness. Let us know how you are going. Life really is a bitch.

fatasbrandybutter Sat 15-Dec-12 08:25:42

Hey little hope you had an uneventful night and got some sleep x

Thanks ladies! My mum came round last night and had some quality time with DS and DH took me out for dinner to a wee place near us, lovely food and just laid back. Kind of wanted to just hide indoors but no matter how anxious and negative i feel about what next week and early scan will show i basically have no control over it so I need to just try and enjoy seeing friends and doing fun Christmassy stuff with DS this weekend and what will be will be. There has been no more bleeding, which is something to be positive about and any light staining i've had has been light brown which prob just means old blood. But y'day was reddish and my mmc started off very like this too so I am finding it hard to believe it will all be ok and I kind of dont want to get my hopes up either in case I'm disappointed. Will have to just wait and see now.

Thanks again for all your well wishes! Really hope all of us have our babies ahead, waiting to meet us in 2013 - at this stage we all deserve to have that happen!!!

Thingymajigs Sat 15-Dec-12 09:10:22

Fertility friend app is teasing me by letting me know I have a possible 'triphasic pattern'. According to their information this could indicate pregnancy but it also indicates the end of a luteal phase. Thanks for that FF, very useful. hmm
Hope all is well little. x

Thingymajigs Sat 15-Dec-12 09:12:07

You appear just as I posted. smile I'm so glad to hear the bleeding has stopped. I really hope you can enjoy Christmas with your family with no more worry.

RedRobin1 Sat 15-Dec-12 09:21:20

Oh fx thingy triphasiac pattern is a very good indication smile when are you testing?
Good to hear the bleeding stopped littlemiss it's horrible to have to go through that and fingers crossed you don't see anymore blood till after the baby is born!

I am 2 dpo today. This is going to be the longest 2ww. I just don't know if we caught it this time. Really want to be pregnant this month...

twinkle how you doing?

Thingymajigs Sat 15-Dec-12 09:40:52

I don't have an overwhelming urge to poas yet. Every cycle I can't stop myself from testing at 10dpo and then don't bother again until AF is due. I'll test on Tuesday I think if it hasn't arrived.
I have my fingers crossed for you red. Some 2ww are so difficult but hopefully the build up to Christmas might help distract you this time.

fatasbrandybutter Sat 15-Dec-12 20:29:48

What on earth is a triphasic pattern?!

Thingymajigs Sat 15-Dec-12 21:02:54

I wasn't aware of it until the app informed me this morning and I've been charting for 3 months. Apparently it shows 3 stages of temperature patterns. One lower level of pre-ovulation temps, slightly higher after ovulation and a third higher stage after implantation has occurred. But it's also completely unreliable. It'll probably go down again tomorrow before AF.

twinklestar2 Sat 15-Dec-12 22:05:07

littlemiss - so glad the bleeding has stopped.

I'm still here girls, just haven't been posting. Been busy with my new job, xmas parties etc.

BFP due on weds.

OH been sad today as he's not looking forward to another Xmas without a baby.

WhenSheWasBadSheWasHopeful Sat 15-Dec-12 22:23:51

Hi twinkle glad you are keeping busy. Hope your dh can enjoy Xmas without focussing on what's missing at the moment.

We'd could be your lucky break. Fx

RedRobin1 Sat 15-Dec-12 22:36:19

winkle fx this is your last Christmas without a baby and the next one has a very special addition to your family!

I am obsessing this month and listening to all the twinges and crazily wishing and willing myself to get pregnant this month. Good god! Setting myself for a big fall, but I don't care.

twinklestar2 Sat 15-Dec-12 23:01:32

Thanks when, I hope so too.

twinklestar2 Sat 15-Dec-12 23:02:24

Thanks red. If we don't have a baby by next Xmas I think I'll go crazy.

Thingymajigs Sun 16-Dec-12 07:48:48

Caved this morning and got a BFN at 14dpo so I'm just waiting for my period to arrive. This is annoying because it means I'm going to have to get checked out at the doctors and I've been dreading that. Partner has already had his SA and it came back borderline but ok because of slightly low motility but I'm very apprehensive about mine.
Good luck twinkle and red. smile

WhenSheWasBadSheWasHopeful Sun 16-Dec-12 09:27:58

Sorry thingymagigs the bfn is horrible. Sorry you need to see the doctors. Fx for you.

Thingymajigs Sun 16-Dec-12 09:48:25

Ah it's ok. Thank you. It hasn't hit me so hard this time apart from the worry about going for tests. I think I'm getting used to it and anything but a negative would shock me now. I just feel a bit silly because now I think about it I'm having some very obvious cramps. I could have saved myself another test if I'd waited a bit longer. Definitely investing in some cheapies for next cycle.

MonthlyFestiveFrolics Sun 16-Dec-12 10:18:29

Morning all, I've just had a catch up read, I haven't posted since page 4. Congrats to those still pregnant and lots of Christmas DTD to those who aren't.

I am going to cave and poas today, cd11, AF/BFP due weds. Will be really gutted this time as actually had a 5 week cycle and after my 5 week one I get 2 8-9 week cycles :-( I had my progesterone done this cycle so will phone for those results if not up duffed and dh has his form for SA ready to go

thingy where abouts on FF did it say about the tri-phasic pattern?

MonthlyFestiveFrolics Sun 16-Dec-12 10:20:22

thingy I know buy my opk in batches of 50 and poas in 30's, all I internet cheapies. I have 2 clear blue digitals waiting for when I get positives on the cheapies unless they go out of date first!

MonthlyFestiveFrolics Sun 16-Dec-12 10:32:06

Shock horror , BFN today. Have no symptoms anyway. Guess my next testing date will be February confused

RedRobin1 Sun 16-Dec-12 10:47:43

Sorry about the bfns thingy and monthly sad

thingy we started the fertility tests early as we wanted to be able to 'fix' the problem early or do something about it before its late. I have got my hycosy (Fallopian tube tests) in Jan and I am dreading it too. The initial investigations - scans / blood tests were not too painful but hycosy is supposed to be. DH is having his second SA in feb so hope that shows an improvement in antisperm antibodies.

twinklestar2 Sun 16-Dec-12 10:59:08

Sorry about BFNSsad

Another one hear in the hands of the docs. Hub has had 2 SA's. I've had bloods, pelvic scan, chlymidia test and smear. Next step is getting my tubes cleaned. Oh what fun!!

Thingymajigs Sun 16-Dec-12 12:31:52

Sorry to hear about the BFN monthly. sad I really thought one of us would get a Christmas surprise. There's still time for a couple more of a though.
The information on the triphasic pattern appeared on the FF iPhone app in the 'pregnancy monitor' part of the chart analysis section where the details of symptoms and when you should test are situated.

Thingymajigs Sun 16-Dec-12 12:38:45

That's really useful to know, thanks red and twinkle. I wasn't sure what to ask for considering the fact that I believe I am ovulating and if I should pretend I've been trying for longer than I actually have. I am 31 and my partner is 33 so I don't know if its acceptable to go in after just 6 months. Also not sure if they might turn me away because I have two children already. I wouldn't blame them of course but my partner doesn't have any children of his own.
Good luck with the tube tests you two, it sounds uncomfortable but I have heard from 2 women that it helped them get pregnant the following cycle.

twinklestar2 Sun 16-Dec-12 12:46:55

They won't see you until it's been a year. thats when they take your bloods and do the SA for OH.

my local pct won't refer you to the next stage (fertility clinic) till you've been trying for 2 years. But my docs said he would as we've been trying for 16 months and he could see that we were doing all the right things.

No more bleeding, feeling very tired and sick today, hoping those are good signs. Still going to phone midwife in the morning though, red bleeding is rarely a good sign no matter how light it is so if they can give me an early scan and do a blood test for me it'd be good.

Sorry about BFNs thingy and monthly sad

Hope Christmas will bring good news twinkle - it's a tough time of the year when you're ttc xx

BelissimaLol Sun 16-Dec-12 13:49:47

Personally I think two years is appalling! Glad they are seeing you sooner twinkle. although you won't need it as you will get your bfp on wed
A few people from work have clocked on. I have a reputation for loving the booze and they know me well enough to know I would ignore antibiotics. Oh well.

Thingymajigs Sun 16-Dec-12 14:19:20

2 years is shocking! All previous information I've read has been from US forums where they wait 6 months to a year (depending on age) at most before going to ask for tests.
My partner asked his GP for a SA two months ago and was never asked how long he had been trying. He has always worried that he was infertile though. It seems men get put through tests without any questioning whereas we have to wait years.

twinklestar2 Sun 16-Dec-12 14:28:07

sad at sex and the city where Charlotte and Harry are trying to have a baby. I've cried twice!!

I do understand why they would make you wait for a year because fertility treatments can be invasive and they aren't always successful anyway so what would the point be in taking drugs you didnt need. Certainly in my area they refer you to the fertility centre after 12 months and sooner if you have an underlying condition like pcos that could impact on your ability to conceive. Cant believe people are being made to wait that long sad

i'm festived out grin - had friends round last night, festive brunch & pressies with diff friends this morning, took DS to see santa this afternoon and dinner at my.mum & dads this evening. We've been invited to another xmas party tonight but i am dead on my feet so DH going solo. Trying not to stress about possibly getting scanned 2moro, they might not be able to fit me in til Tues anyway, but of course kind of dreading bad news confused oh well pjs & tv chill out time now nite all x

twinklestar2 Sun 16-Dec-12 20:20:41

Good luck for tomorrow!

thanks twinkle - good luck for BFP this week!

twinklestar2 Sun 16-Dec-12 21:27:02

Thx although I don't think it's gonna happen and I'm focusing on the new year now.

fatasbrandybutter Sun 16-Dec-12 22:12:39

winkle good luck with the POAS this week - fx for you!

little - good luck with the scan etc - we will be thinking of you and waiting for you to tell us good news x

Am gearing up for starting this month's dtd - shame we are already knackered due to awkward sleeping arrangements all weekend (visiting family)!! Oh well! wink

SantaKittenClaws Mon 17-Dec-12 07:38:23

Morning! On the train so very quick catch up for now...

Sorry for the all the BFNs thanks

little tentative yay for no more bleeding and continued ropiness smile. Good luck for the scan today we'll be thinking of you.

Hope everyone's had a lovely weekend, we had an early Christmas with our group of friends yesterday. It was lovely but we were the only people there with no DCs which sucked quite a lot to be honest. Had some lovely cuddles with a friends newborn though.

<waves> to everyone, I'll be back to catch up properly later

ReindeerOutdoors Mon 17-Dec-12 07:59:47

Thinking of you today littlemiss

Sorry for the bfns, they suck. resipsa I hope it's your turn next month, and everyone else too.

Who's still in for before Christmas? winkle? Anyone else?

ReindeerOutdoors Mon 17-Dec-12 08:02:03

kitten early friends Christmas sounds lovely. Can't believe the real one is so close now.

WhenSheWasBadSheWasHopeful Mon 17-Dec-12 08:26:25

Sorry for the BFNs.

littlemiss really glad you are feeling tired and sick grin got to be a good sign. Fx for today.

twinkle best of luck with the tube cleaning.

I've signed up for the promise trial. Should get more details on it from a consultant this week. [unsure emoticon]

Thingymajigs Mon 17-Dec-12 10:11:00

Thinking of you today little, hope all is well.
What is the Promise trial when? I've had a quick look and it appears to be about progesterone supplements in early pregnancy.
I'm off to the GP's at 12 to have a chat about everything. I'm sure I'll be pushed back out of the door and told to come back in a year but its worth a go.

Thanks everyone! Phoned midwife this morning and she said that since bleeding had eased off over weekend she thought it would be a good idea to wait a couple of days for a scan because if they brought me in this morning and found a heartbeat that would be great but it would be no guarantee bleeding wouldn't just start again. So they are going to bring me in on Wed morning - it's a bit annoying to have to wait a few days but it's not like i'm in pain or bleeding heavily so i'm not an emergency case and there's people who need checked out more urgently than I do so can't really complain too much. I'm just steeling myself for it being bad news though, good news would be an amazing surprise but i don't want to expect anything...

thingy - good luck at the GP, at least if you flag up your concerns now it will be on your file so even if they tell you to keep trying for 6 months or something, whenever you do come back they might be more likely to take your concerns seriously

kitten - my friend had a baby girl last night so also looking forward to some new born cuddles!

RedRobin1 Mon 17-Dec-12 12:15:38

thingy we saw the GP after trying for 6 months and lied and said we had been trying a longer that 12m. We didn't want to wait a year to find out if something was wrong. In hindsight I am so glad we did, otherwise we would have never known about DH's morphology and Antisperm Antibodies. At least now he's taking vitamins and stopped cycling to stop his nuts heating up and improving the quality of the sperm. Shudder to think how much damage it would have caused to his sperm had we waited a year to get referred. I had waited 2 years to start trying, and then when it didn't happen in 6 months I just wanted to get some answers before I have to wait even longer.

I had my GP appointment this morning and my blood test results have come back normal. LH/FSH are all fine. Very relieved. She didn't think I had pcos and thinks the trainee nurse is highly likely to have made an error in diagnosis hmm she said I'll have to have more scans done.

little so glad the bleeding has stopped. Hope the clock ticks fast to Wednesday so you can get the scan done. Its horrible to have to wait with such a delicate thing that you have waited for so long.

winkle are you getting the HyCosy done?

Thingymajigs Mon 17-Dec-12 12:53:55

It all sounds good little. I suppose you won't be able to relax until you see your little one on the screen though. Hope the next two days goes quickly for you.
Good news as well about your results red. smile I've heard that PCOS is often misdiagnosed. I went today and she was lovely. I felt awful when I lied about trying for 8 months instead of the 6 months in reality. I couldn't go higher than that because she had my medical records. She has set me up for some blood work though because of the lactation issue and luckily there was a cancellation on Thursday so I can get my blood taken. I'm very happy with how it went actually. She was very impressed with my weight loss and general health so I feel like I need a gold star. I just hope my period actually starts tomorrow or I'll have to cancel it.

Gold star for you thingy! Two months isn't much of a fib, hope your blood work goes well

red - it's frustrating when they keep telling you that you might have one thing, oh wait a minute, no you don't, what you need is...more tests!! But hopefully they will be able to get to the bottom of things soon for you smile

It's poas day tomorrow, is that right twinkle??

twinklestar2 Mon 17-Dec-12 23:11:22

I don't POAS I wait for AF to arrive! It's weds... Hope she never comes!

Red - getting referred in the new year for all the next stage of tests and tubes cleaned etc.

Littlemiss - fingers crossed for the scan

Hi to everyone else and sorry for sporadic messages. Life is so busy at the moment.

stickybeans Tue 18-Dec-12 06:42:20

Fx Littlemiss I too have an early scan-it's tomorrow and I'm excited and nervous at the same time. Praying that I hear/see a stong heartbeat.

Fx for everyone waiting to test & Congrats to all the BFP.
Also FX for Jan BFP for everyone still trying.

My scan is at 11a. Will be back with update!!

RedRobin1 Tue 18-Dec-12 08:55:49

fx she doesn't come winkle - i just keep thinking how nice it would be to get a bfp at the end of this shit year. But i think i am just getting my hopes up and will be so disappointed.

can't wait till the weekend when christmas festivities will be in full swing to take my mind of it.

fx for healthy scans sticky and little

twinklestar2 Tue 18-Dec-12 14:38:27

Fx for healthy scans

I think like that too red but then I think why would it be any different this month? It's never happened before sad

SantaKittenClaws Tue 18-Dec-12 15:18:53

hey ladies, seems everyone's busy busy with rl stuff atm!

keeping my fx for good scans for little and sticky, and also waving my "bugger off AF" banner for twinkle for tomorrow smile

no real news from me, just had a vv faint +ve opk, hopefully will get a proper +ve later on this evening. Have been dtd eod all month, will try and coax dh into an extra one tonight too wink.

Oh, for the ladies who wanted an epo update - I took my last epo yesterday morning (CD12). If I get a proper +ve opk tonight then that will mean ov bang on schedule, so no early ov for me. Haven't noticed much of an increase in ewcm, but it def seems to be better quality iyswim, especially today.

blush seriously, the things we talk about on here haha!!

I'm not that busy with RL stuff until after scan tomorrow - everything slightly on hold confused I told my boss and another girl in work so I have the morning off tomorrow and if it's not good news tomorrow they will cover for me not turning up to the xmas staff lunch tomorrow afternoon. And then I'm off for Christmas whatever happens, so off to see Santa at the zoo on Thurs with DS and SIL and then out for tea that evening with all the in-laws, DH and DS for SIL's birthday. So no matter how tomorrow turns out at least I have loads of plans on Thurs to keep me busy.

Sticky - I think my scan is 10:50 (tho have to phone tomorrow morning and confirm time) so we should be in at the same time. Fx for you (and for me!)

twinkle - hoping AF stays well away this month. If she's due tomorrow and it's Tues evening now...any sign of the witch?? Really hoping not!!!

kitten - hope that's you getting ready for OV tonight or tomorrow then. Good luck dtd and getting the swimmers into position!

twinklestar2 Tue 18-Dec-12 17:21:34

Love the idea of a bugger off banner!!

weetinselchops Tue 18-Dec-12 18:22:35

Fx for healthy wonderful scans sticky and little

I will join in with the banner waving for twinkle !

kitten I completely forgot to even buy the epo, never mind take it, ah well.

Dh got home last night and we erm clebrated that fact a little too enthusiastically and I think he broke me slightly! Bit of friction burn in the nethers ouch. Abstaining now for a couple of days, and no + opk yet anyway smile

stickybeans Tue 18-Dec-12 18:56:05

Had my scan today. I got to see the tiny bean and see the heartbeat! It was 120 bpm. I'm so thankful but still a little cautious/nervous. Just praying it sticks.

Thank you ladies for your support!!!
Baby Dust to all!!!!

alliwantforxmas Tue 18-Dec-12 19:47:55

stickybeans - that's fab news. Really happy for you. Hope things go well tomorrow with the scan little too.

Had my docs appointment today which went well. Got my LH and FSH results back. All fine (I think), and my thyroid is doing well too, so fx.

All got my first high today (cd9) on my Clearblue Fertility Monitor so dh and I will def be getting jiggy tonight! ;-) x

RedRobin1 Wed 19-Dec-12 08:41:57

My temps have taken a huge nosedive this morning at 6dpo. And I have woken up feeling really sad and miserable, no symptoms at all. I don't think this is going to be our month. Cried on my drive into work and kept thinking how many times do I have to go through this before it will be my turn to be happy sad sad

twinklestar2 Wed 19-Dec-12 09:15:26

So pleased for you sticky.

Red - could it be an implantation dip? I've heard temp goes down at implantation. I totally get how you feel, I've cried many times on the way to work. So stressed with this ttc, when will it be over for us?

RedRobin1 Wed 19-Dec-12 09:46:07

I don't know if it is implantation dip as these tend to happen between 7-10dpo so I don't think its that. I just feel so negative today though. Berating myself for stupidly believing it will happen this month. Just because its Christmas. Like that will work!

Like you said winkle if it hasn't happened before why should this month be any different - sorry for being so negative, just having a bad day today sad
I so want that bfp to happen for you winkle....more than I want it for myself.

resipsa Wed 19-Dec-12 11:11:52

Hi everyone. Just about managed to pull myself out of CD1 gloom (on CD6 - it seems to take longer each month).

littlemiss fx for your seeing a healthy bean today.

red sorry, no words of wisdom but hope you feel better later. I was counting today the number of friends who are expecting in the first half of next year. I gave up when I got to 8...I hope I can add you to the list for the seconf half, though.

when just been reading about the trial. It's got to be worth a shot (but I hope you get the real thing, not the placebo!).

winkle any sign of AF or can we be tentatively excited for you?

SantaKittenClaws Wed 19-Dec-12 11:39:58

Morning (just about!)

res sorry about AF sad well done on picking yourself up though. Is the witch on her way out now then? And does that put you at ov'ing around christmas day-ish? That's a nice thought at least..

red big hugs for you, I wish there was something we could say to make you feel better, but a virtual hug will have to do sad

sticky yay for your healthy bean, so pleased for you!! smile

little and winkle I have my fingers crossed for you both today (am I'm still waving that banner!grin)

So a quick opinion poll if you don't mind ladies: I had a faint +ve opk at about 3pm yesterday, followed by a very slightly darker +ve at about 8pm, and then a proper fully +ve this morning. BUT I failed in my mission to dtd last night or this morning, so the last dtd was Monday night sad (dh too tired angry )

So basically do you think if we dtd tonight it'll be too late? Have we missed our chance for this month?

resipsa Wed 19-Dec-12 11:47:13

Hi red. Bet we've all done a LOT of reading on this subject! I'm sure when god DD out of DTD 5 days before ov so am sure yours on Monday counts; the spermies have got to swim quite a way to be in the best place! Equally, the wisdom seems to be that egg drops up to 48 hours after +ve and stays "alive" for up to another 24 hours so I think you're on for tonight and tomorrow! Lucky OH!

resipsa Wed 19-Dec-12 11:48:13

Hi red? Can I not read or type today? I meant kitten!

RedRobin1 Wed 19-Dec-12 12:26:02

kitten agree with res Jump him tonight to be on the safe side. Your Monday night's dtd would still be fine to cover the egg. But always good to keep the sperm supply going till 3 days after a +ve OPK.

Was your OPK this morning darker than last nights at 8pm?

SantaKittenClaws Wed 19-Dec-12 12:40:46

Thanks girls, that makes me feel better - I was properly narked with DH last night, not helped by the news article link I came in to find on my work email this morning which was a jokey piece by guy bemoaning how ttc had taken the romance out of their sex life. Apparently DH thought it would make me laugh hmmhmm

Yep this morning's opk was much darker than the one last night - propbably the only real positive strictly speaking (the other two were lighter than the control line).

Thingymajigs Wed 19-Dec-12 13:24:50

Hey everyone, I am so ready for Christmas now or rather the holiday part of Christmas. I'm so tired. I feel like we might have a better chance this cycle since my fertile week falls on Christmas and New Year when he is off work. Although the stress of cooking for all of my family on Xmas Day might hinder things a bit. Why did I volunteer??
alliwantforxmas that's great news about your results. I'm having some blood taken tomorrow for the same things and I'm already nervous.
Oh, wonder how little is today. Wasn't it the scan today?

twinklestar2 Wed 19-Dec-12 14:24:19

Thx red that is so nice of you to say and made me feel a bit teary.

No sign of AF as yet but I don't feel pregnant, I don't feel like she's coming, I don't feel anything.

twinkle - no AF and feeling teary??? I really REALLY have my fx for you. You will recall, me, who has been pg three times now, being absolutely 100% certain a few weeks ago that I did not FEEL pg at all and only poas because I had a big birthday bash to go out to that night and I wanted to be on the safe side before hitting the wine and...well...you know how that turned out. FX for you that AF isn't showing today, tomorrow or at all!

Kitten - Grr at DH sending you that!!! Men totally don't get it sometimes, even the most supportive of DHs and DPs

Thingy - good luck with all the cooking and good news about being off work during fertile period, hopefully Santa is bringing some baby dust your way

res - sorry you're feeling a bit down, hope this is cd6 of the cycle you get your bfp

Well girls went for scan this morning, back in EPU where I was in July finding out I'd had mmc, with same midwife, and initially (i'd forgotten about the whole needing a full bladder thing) she had the scanner at the wrong angle and while she could see the sac that was all that was showing up to begin with and I was just completely ready for that to be that. A bit of shifting around and there was little bean and a heartbeat! Great news obviously but they still aren't sure what's causing the on/off bleeding since nothing obvious showed up on the scan. Haven't had any since y'day afternoon and midwife was tentatively optimistic that at 6 weeks it could still be implantation bleeding. She's booked me in again on 2nd Jan though just to keep an eye on things. Off to GP tomorrow to get my official hospital referral sorted out. Feeling hopeful and nervous all at the same time, meeting my mum for a (decaff) coffee this afternoon and then heading off to get my hair done - keep the good mood going! X

weetinselchops Wed 19-Dec-12 14:39:58

Twinkle no sign is a good sign. Fx af stays away!

alliwantforxmas Wed 19-Dec-12 15:36:04

Little that's such good news. Really pleased for you, and wish you and your little bean all the best for a peaceful and smooth Christmas and New Year.

Twinkle glad AF has stayed away so far. Hopefully you will get your bfp just in time for Christmas.

SantaKittenClaws Wed 19-Dec-12 15:43:44

Woohoooooo little that is good news, how lovely smilesmile

WhenSheWasBadSheWasHopeful Wed 19-Dec-12 17:14:36

little so pleased everything is looking good for you. Congrats

resipsa you're right. My dd was conceived by dtd 5days pre ov. Dh clearly has good sperm, they can def stick around for days. Glad you are feeling a bit better after af.

twinkle no news is good news you know. I didn't get any symptoms till at least week 5 with dd, so I say lack of symptoms mean nothing. Fx she stays away.

kitten grr at your dh for his insensitivity.

twinklestar2 Wed 19-Dec-12 17:33:04

Great news littlemiss smile

I've got a work Xmas party on Friday so will take a test on Friday morning. This month I've drunk and smoked loads cause I've been looking towards next year. Maybe I'll be that anecdote!

RedRobin1 Wed 19-Dec-12 17:56:57

Glad the scan went well little

I am flying the no AF banner higher twinkle. Fx she stays away x

I have some tugs and twinges today but not getting too excited by it.

fatasbrandybutter Wed 19-Dec-12 18:40:51

Ooh winkle that sounds promising...! Keeping fx for you...

Congrats little that's great news!

And sorry res - af is a bitch - it's not fair angry - but we are almost cycle buddies (cd 9 here I think!!)! I haven't yet managed to dtd sad so will hve to work my magic - our work patterns are really not helping!! Good luck for everyone x

ReindeerOutdoors Thu 20-Dec-12 07:29:29

Keeping an eye out for winkle. Stay buggered off winkle's af!

ReindeerOutdoors Thu 20-Dec-12 07:30:10

Oh and excellent news littlemiss!

SantaKittenClaws Thu 20-Dec-12 07:31:30

Morning, just checking in for any news from winkle...

Got 2 proper dark +ve opks yesterday so jumped DH last night smile Was also getting some mild low down cramping yesterday eve which I haven't noticed before - poss caused by the EPO? Fx it's a good sign either way. Anyway that's me into the 2ww I think - or 10 day wait as it seems to be the last few months hmm

Hope everyone's ok this lovely rainy morning

weetinselchops Thu 20-Dec-12 07:39:31

Well I finally got a + opk this morning after 2 cycles of nothing! smile. Cd14 today and we dtd last night and planning on it for the next fee nights too. Really hope this is our month.

Little that's great news!

Twinkle still no sign of af? Oh fx for you!

RedRobin1 Thu 20-Dec-12 08:38:00

oh its so dark today. my temps have spiked up very high. Trying not to get my hopes up because they only come crashing down every month. wonder why we do this to ourselves every month? I am getting the same twinges and tugs as previous months but still keep deluding myself that theres a small teeny tiny chance that we may have caught it this month. can't wait till the 2ww ends.

winkle fx for you. really hoping she hasnt shown her ugly mug.

It is so grey and gloomy today!

resipsa Thu 20-Dec-12 08:52:33

kitten and wee - you're definitely cycle buddies Fatas wish we could be but I don't ovulate until CD18 at the earliest so everyone tends to leave me behind. That said, this month it means that the most fertile day would be 31 Dec. Now that would be a good story for a DC's 18th party...
littlemiss so pleased for you. It's horrible when you're lying there and they are looking for something, anything and then they find it! Relax and enjoy Xmas. You'll be in week 13 before you know it.
winkle hope no news is good news
Everyone else - hope we get the Xmas present we all want most this year.

twinklestar2 Thu 20-Dec-12 08:58:59

Thanks girls for all thinking of me. If hopes and wishes brought BFPs I would def have mine by now! Still no sign of AF. Allowing myself to get a teeny bit excited - only a teeny bit mind!

Good luck with the dtd kitten and wee!

twinklestar2 Thu 20-Dec-12 09:00:05

Res - I'm fertile next on nye too so we've planned to stay in.

Red - stay positive smile

ReindeerOutdoors Thu 20-Dec-12 09:23:07

red my fingers are massively crossed for you too. When is af due? Hope she stays away x

fatasbrandybutter Thu 20-Dec-12 10:10:32

Gosh winkle I just can't believe u haven't POAS yet!!blush

twinkle - yay no AF!! Def also starting to get quite excited for you now grin now ur a day late any chance ur going to poas??

red - hmm twinges sound interesting keeping fx for u!!

weetinsel - woo hoo for positive opks!

Wet, cold and nasty here! Seen gp this morning to get my official hospital referral, might giv zoo and the great outdoors a miss this afternoon! Going for an Indian this evening for SIL's bday, swinging between huge appetite and feeling very queasy lol

Keeping fx in the corner for red and winkle, so hope you get your 2012 bfp!
Great news on good scans sticky and little!
Sunshine hope you are feeling ok!
Res, sorry this wasn't your month, I was really hoping for you, fx this month

RedRobin1 Thu 20-Dec-12 14:29:58

thanks everyone. reindeer my AF is due on 30th Dec. So 10 days to go yet. I have a dreadfully long luteal phase.

If I get nausea then I'll poas early, otherwise I am just waiting for AF to show up.

Keeping Positive. It WILL Happen.

BelissimaLol Thu 20-Dec-12 18:05:42

Oooh winkle! I'm excited for you! Will you poas at some point? Go on, you know you want to! No af is great news! Keep us posted!

twinklestar2 Thu 20-Dec-12 18:43:06

No sign as yet. Have brought a frer to do in the morning as its my work Xmas party tomorrow eve. Will keep you posted.

I don't POAS as after 16 months I would be wasting so much money! Now I just wait for AF to arrive.

Don't get too excited ladies, 1 day late is nothing for me. Remember the 43-day cycle I had a few months back?!

ReindeerOutdoors Thu 20-Dec-12 19:09:09

Hi kittens I don't want to moan on this thread as it's obviously a good sign but morning sickness has well and truly kicked in. Poor dd has seen me with my head down the toilet a couple of times. Bless her, she gives me a concerned look and a cuddle when I've finished!

I'm getting very hopeful for winkle and red. Anyone else in the 2ww?

And there were some newbies near the start of the thread. bridget and linda among others... Maybe I have missed a post or a name change but I'm getting confused with who's here!

Sorry for still hanging around, but I've got no desire to join a different thread... I just want to stay on with you guys and watch you all get your bfps! smile

ReindeerOutdoors Thu 20-Dec-12 19:11:06

sticky I missed your post, I'm glad you've had a great scan too.

winkle I don't even know you but I think you're going to be the first person I think about when I wake up tomorrow <not creepy, honest!>

twinklestar2 Thu 20-Dec-12 20:07:38

Aw reindeer that's so sweet!

Oh god someone stop me. I've already thought about how I'm going to tell my family I'm pregnant on Christmas Day and that I want it to be a girl first... SOMEBODY STOP ME!

Thingymajigs Thu 20-Dec-12 20:14:36

Good luck for tomorrow twinkle!
So glad the scan went well little that's great news.
My mum asked me straight out if I was going to have another baby today. It was such a random question since we've kept it to ourselves and we aren't really in a position where ppl naturally ask anymore. She was shocked but not in a bad way. It was quite nice to get it off my chest especially after the blood tests this morning. I hope she doesn't tell the whole family over Christmas dinner now. blush
Do you tend to keep it quiet or does everyone know you're trying for a baby? (To everyone)

ReindeerOutdoors Thu 20-Dec-12 20:23:16

I was really open about it to everyone until I had a big wobble last time af came, quit this thread, said my goodbyes and decided I was going to accept it wasn't happening so when people asked I just said I wasn't trying anymore because it wasn't happening. And then like a big cliche it happened.

With dd I said we weren't trying not to, when people asked, which is a more relaxed way to think about it I guess.

In a way I wish I'd been a bit more honest with my close friends about how much it was actually upsetting me. I had a horrible night out with two pregnancies announced, whereas I think if they'd have known they would have given me the heads up in private beforehand. I'm ashamed to say I didn't cope very well with the news at the time blush

But then I can also see the advantages to keeping it to yourself. When some friends did see how much it meant to me I felt like maybe they knew too much and I felt a bit vulnerable, if that makes sense.

It's dead tricky and just a personal thing I guess. It does help to have someone who understands you though.

Thingymajigs Thu 20-Dec-12 20:43:01

Yeah, I know exactly what you mean about feeling vulnerable. I certainly like to deal with things by myself and am a very private person (I tell myself that anonymous forum postings don't count). I do feel a little vulnerable now but also relieved, I hadn't realised that I was hiding it from my mum until I actually told her. It also feels far more real now, not sure why..

RedRobin1 Thu 20-Dec-12 20:49:46

winkle I am waiting excitedly for you. Not going to stop you getting excited. Whatever will be will be. Really hope this Christmas is a special one for you.

About telling ppl if you are ttc - we have now told most family and friends so we don't get asked any awkward questions and so far it's been helpful except one or two insensitive friends who try to offer you tips. Why can't people just be good listeners and not offer advice?

I have had mild retching today at 7dpo same as what I had with the cp. I am not getting my hopes up but it's hard to stay calm. Wonder if this is it?

Oh winkle and red I'm not going to stop you getting excited, why when that's part of the fun!! Yes it may not happen this month but why the hell wouldn't it either?!?
I too I'm going to excitedly check first thing [ I'm very sad too emotion-com]
I want us to have a graduate bfp bus where we can maybe even lure out wishful the founder!
I personally never kept it a secret when we were trying, that's not to say I brought it up but if the subject came up I've always been quite honest about it, I think it's been the best approach for me although I've kept the pregnancys a secret until later
Glad to hear you are doing well sunshine given that ms is a good thing in these circumstances! Has the panic set in yet?! I think I worried non stop for the fist tri even about what have I done, 2 young babies ahh! I think it must be hormone related!
Anyone like to know what flavour baby kitty is? grin

twinklestar2 Thu 20-Dec-12 23:26:46

I would like to know kitty!

We generally tell people we're not preventing and seek what happens or that we're concentrating on my new job at the moment and will think about it in the new year. But people must know as we've been married 18 months. My sis and my mum have both asked if something's wrong. Both my sisters got married and pregnant within first few months.

Monthlyfestivities Fri 21-Dec-12 00:21:06

I'm a newby here from earlier. Bowed out as have long cycles and had bfn on 10 day post ovulation. But AF due yest/today and not shown up so going t test again tomorrow. Have absolutely no symptoms though!

twinklestar2 Fri 21-Dec-12 06:19:19

Bfn...

Smile87 Fri 21-Dec-12 06:24:43

I don't tell ppl but convinced people know because we've been married nearly 3 years we love children. blush

SantaKittenClaws Fri 21-Dec-12 07:39:56

Awww twinkle that sucks but it could definitely just be too early so please don't give up just yet - I'm staying positive for you at any rate! smile

red have got my fx for you too, retching sounds good (never said that before...)

I think you ladies who have told people you're TTC are a bit mad brave. We've not told anyone at all! We love our friends and family obviously, but if they knew it would just be an endless barrage of "friendly jokes" about me being "barren" or DH "firing blanks". Obviously people must have guessed as we've never made secret of the fact that we want kids, but to outright admit it would be tantamount to offering ourselves up for sacrifice!

Thingymajigs Fri 21-Dec-12 07:47:10

Sorry to hear that twinkle sad
Looks like we are all aiming for 2013 BFP's unless monthly or red gets an early Christmas gift. Not sure where everyone else is on their cycles. AF is just on its way out for me thankfully. I'm beginning to really hate them lately.

fatasbrandybutter Fri 21-Dec-12 07:47:53

Don't worry winkle - stay positive - could easily be too early with your random cycles! I do remember that long one you had before! Am still x-ing my fingers for you!! wink

RedRobin1 Fri 21-Dec-12 08:05:38

confused Sorry winkle don't know what to say. It's just so bloody hard and cruel when it tricks you into thinking this might be the month. Big hug.

Don't let ttc ruin your Christmas. Hope you still have a good one and the new year will bring you more happiness.

Sorry winkle, I'm gutted for you sad
I hope it is too early as I got a bfn the day before my + last time but know in your position I wouldn't believe that, I hope it doesn't spoil Xmas for you x

twinklestar2 Fri 21-Dec-12 08:29:26

Thanks girls smile

twinklestar2 Fri 21-Dec-12 09:03:23

I just had a thought. I think AF is delayed because I thought I ov'd on the mon / tues but then I had EWCM on the Sunday so I reckon she'll be here this weekend.

weetinselchops Fri 21-Dec-12 09:34:16

winkle gutted for you, but fx it may be just too early to test.

I got another smiley face this morning on cd15 so going from 2 cycles with nothing, to a cycle with 2! Hoping it's a good sign.

MonthlyWishesDoComeTrue Fri 21-Dec-12 11:27:46

Hi winkle, sorry about your BFN.
Just to give you some hope, my AF always arrives day 13/14 after ovulation. On 14 days past I got a BFN, but today 16 days past I got a BFP! The digital says 1-2weeks when I know its been 16 days so bit worried about that. Still can't believe it and as getting cramps don't want to get too excited!

WhenSheWasBadSheWasHopeful Fri 21-Dec-12 13:09:40

Sorry about the BFN winkle

twinklestar2 Fri 21-Dec-12 14:21:07

Congrats monthly.

resipsa Fri 21-Dec-12 15:16:13

Ah winkle sorry re BFN but see what happens. Wry smile at your imagining how to tell on Xmas Day as I had same daydreams this month. In my case, it's verging on masochism as I now seem to do it every month!
Hi kitty. Flavour confirmation, please!
Congrats monthly!
Hi lol + sunshine/reindeer - hope everything going OK. So envy!
Tell people? 1st time we didn't but no-one asked as we'd been married 10 years and were in the self-declared "no kids wanted" camp. God, I used to say it so casually, as if it really would be as easy as changing my mind one day and giving birth the next. So naive!
Second time we told no-one either but then had m/c which I had to talk about for my sanity. So, now everyone knows the plan but daren't ever ask how it's going!
Fx red!

fatasbrandybutter Fri 21-Dec-12 16:23:31

Yeah what flavour kitty?? grin

RedRobin1 Fri 21-Dec-12 16:29:20

congratulations monthly and yes please share your flavour kitty excited to find out.

thanks res Today I have had no symptoms whatsoever. Its literally like a rollercoaster. One day I feel pregnant, next day I don't, then again I do, then again I don't! Argh! Just want to get to the 30th Dec so I find out and can start over again doing the same in January.

I have decided to sod it as last year Christmas was grim. This year I will enjoy Christmas and a few glasses of vino wine or maybe even half a bottle. I have just finished counting my prezzies and like a child I am grinning as I have more than DH as every year grin Does anyone else do that?

ReindeerOutdoors Fri 21-Dec-12 17:12:24

Sorry for bfn winkle but it sounds like it's too early to know either way , so you're not out yet!

And monthly CONGRATULATIONS!!! Merry Christmas what a great present. You made 2012 with over a week to spare!

ReindeerOutdoors Fri 21-Dec-12 17:15:58

kitty come back and tell us! Is it a dd you have already?

Sorry to keep you all waiting!
Yes already have a dd and about well in another 4/5 months to have another! gringrin
Congrats monthly, the digi works by hormone level and if it was neg 2 days before it will only be 1-2, just means it was a late implanter
Red I was definatly the same as little with this pregnancy and had no symptoms at all except some weird dreams!

resipsa Fri 21-Dec-12 19:55:49

Yay kitty - gotta say I love girls! Always thought I wanted a boy but now I have a girl and have seen boys in action, well, girls rule (until they get to 11 or so ;-)).

Yes the thought of 2 young boys would have me crying but the thought of 2 teenage girls!!! Ahhh

Thingymajigs Fri 21-Dec-12 21:17:19

I have two boys. One of which is 12 and nearing 6 ft tall. I have to say that boys are a handful but that's possibly because my eldest is autistic too but I've always wondered if girls are easier to parent. Hopefully I may get to find out one day. Congrats kittens smile

fatasbrandybutter Fri 21-Dec-12 21:26:17

Ah congrats kitty! Sounds so exciting! I would love a girl - I have a boy and yes they are hard work!! - although I really don't mind I would just so love to have another to keep ds company- he's a happy cheeky little soul who loves company smile

Hi everyone! Like to say I've been busy today but no, keeping feet up mostly with just a bit of xmas shopping and a visit to speech&language therapist with DS this morn (he's 25 months and dragging feet a bit about speaking so health visitor referred us). Anyway I'm feeling thoroughly queasy, knackered and my skin looks bleurgh and just getting caught up on today's news....

but in the meantime, sorry about the bfn winkle, but if you think you might have ov later this cycle it stands to reason that you wouldn't get a bfp until later too? I was convinced i'd ov a bit earlier last cycle and so when i got a bfn on cd27 i thought i was out for sure and then that became a very wavery faint bfp on cd29 and not a proper, definite bfp until cd32. just sayin'.....

RedRobin1 Fri 21-Dec-12 23:51:11

kitty that's lovely smile girls def rule.

Hope you get to rest over the next few days little

Ahh I think both sexes are wonderful and each have their own challenges, my dd is much more naughty then her nephew, he loves baking and reading is kind and gentle, she's a whirlwind who loves running is extremely independent and thinks the word no is very funny!!
Still wouldn't change her grin thankyou everyone for your kind words

twinklestar2 Sat 22-Dec-12 11:00:04

Could be too early but I used a frer so it should show up 6 days earlier and this was only 2 days.

Congrats on girl number 2 kitty smile

BelissimaLol Sat 22-Dec-12 11:55:34

But no af still twinkle?
I'm still hopeful for you x

MonthlyWishesDoComeTrue Sat 22-Dec-12 12:08:24

Fingers crossed for you twinkle, mine didn't show until I was late so given up

twinklestar2 Sat 22-Dec-12 14:23:16

No sign as yet

WhenSheWasBadSheWasHopeful Sat 22-Dec-12 14:40:08

Congrats to monthly really pleased.

And congrats to kitty on the scan, little girl sounds great.

twinkle I am willing your af to stay away.

I signed up to the promise trial, only problem is that it takes at least a day to get the supplements and as I lose them stupidly early it may not help. It's worth a shot though.
Consultant didn't seem impressed with my alcohol intake (somewhere between 1 to 2 bottles of wine a week). Yesterday was cd 1 for me so I said I am going to enjoy Xmas then have a booze free Jan and Feb.
she made me feel really guilty, I don't smoke, am a normal weight (could do with shifting 1/2 stone) and am generally quite healthy. But the booze was an issue, I guess it does impact your fertility so she is only trying to help

weetinselchops Sat 22-Dec-12 15:08:20

monthly congratualtions, what a lovely early christmas present.

kitty yay on having girly number 2 smile

winkle so so hoping af stays away for you.

when don't feel guilty. You can't spend every day living without all the good things!

My dh is away on his boys christmas day/night out so may not be in any fit state to dtd later. We dtd cd11, 12, 14, 15 and got a smiley face day 14 & 15. So even if we miss today and dtd tomorrow on cd17 it should cover all bases. ( i think!)

resipsa Sat 22-Dec-12 15:18:14

when God, I'm scared now as going to see GP myself next month to "chat" and think I'd have to confess to more than 2 bottles a week!
winkle you got me thinking about tests. When I took mine with DD, I was 6 weeks from LMP so at least 3 + weeks from conception but it said 2-3 weeks. Some people must just produce more "readable" HCg earlier than others...let us know!

twinklestar2 Sat 22-Dec-12 15:28:55

I'm going dry too next year when, we can do it together. Hub is going dry for Jan and then limiting himself to having only 2 drinks when/if he goes out.

twinkle - glad no sign of af, still holding out for a later than expected bfp

kitty - woo hoo! A girl!! Going to visit a friend tomorrow who just had a baby girl a couple of days ago, im sure i'll be pink and frilly mad after getting a cuddle with her smile

I am getting sicker and sicker. Been stuck inside in pjs all day, wretching and nibbling crackers. 6+6 today looks like HG might be on the verge of making an appearance again. Happy Chrustmas to me! Dont even want to crack open the quality street shock

WhenSheWasBadSheWasHopeful Sat 22-Dec-12 21:01:59

littlemiss oh poor you with the sickness, it's a good thing but it still sucks. Hope it doesn't hit you too bad.

resipsa I'm so glad it's not just me able to drink 2 bottles a week and think it is normal. I know 14 units is the max for women and when ttc it should be naff all. As we all know it can take fucking forever a while to get pregnant, that's a long time to be teetotal.

winkle I'llbd dry in Jan too. Lets hope it works for us.

alliwantforxmas Sat 22-Dec-12 23:39:11

So pleased. Got my first peak on my clearblue fertility monitor today! Bit annoyed as away tonight / tomorrow, but managed to dtd today before I left, last night and Thursday. Hoping with all that shagging and one Xmas eve for luck we should have all our bases covered. Fingers crossed grin

Thingymajigs Sun 23-Dec-12 08:06:40

I don't think a bottle of wine a week sounds bad at all. A bottle a day, yes, but not over a week. I'm not sure how much it affects fertility but I guess I'll give being tee-total a try to see if it helps. My boyfriend doesn't drink and I'm not a big drinker anymore so it should be easy. I think my last drink was at the end of November so I might as well just carry on from here.

ReindeerOutdoors Sun 23-Dec-12 08:08:03

Fx winkle

littlemiss I know how you feel. I'm being sick multiple times a day and feel terrible. Hoping by about 16 weeks it will be over, but that seems ages away.

How are you doing red?

Any more chances for 2012 bfps?

ReindeerOutdoors Sun 23-Dec-12 08:09:29

Don't know if it made a difference but I cut my drinking loads the cycle I got pg. from 1 or 2 glasses a night to one or two a week.

MrsBri Sun 23-Dec-12 08:33:09

Hello all :-) I thought I'd lost you, but you have a new thread!

Just de-lurking to say that the cycle I got pregnant was my booziest month for some time. I drank on the day of conception, had my hen do around implantation and had a lot to drink the day before I found out! I don't normally drink much, but circumstances were different that cycle!

Interesting how it differs. Though I wouldn't see a bottle or two over a week as being a heavy drinker either.

RedRobin1 Sun 23-Dec-12 09:53:23

I don't feel pregnant at all. My temps look like crap. Have no hopes of a bfp. Had a very emotional chat with DH last night and I am okay now. Just preparing for AF to arrive.

On the drinking thing - since we started ttc DH and I barely drink 2 units a week. Christmas is a different matter! But I don't think cutting down down on drinking made any difference.

fatasbrandybutter Sun 23-Dec-12 10:40:32

Ah red don't lose hope - I will keep fx for you x

FYI dtd at the in-laws is so hard!! We are in the room with the squeekiest bed EVER!! Just had the quickest, almost immobile shag ever! grin Makes me realise tantric sex would be handy about now... Anyone got any tips for this kind of thing? Not possible to dtd on sofa or anywhere else as people hang around all over the house all day!! (Unless we are out with them!) confused

twinklestar2 Sun 23-Dec-12 11:03:55

Hugs red.

Cd35 and still no sign.

resipsa Sun 23-Dec-12 11:46:47

red keep hoping. Likewise winkle.
Hi Nic, I mean, mrsbri. How're marriage and babies???
fatas after your train incident earlier this year, you don't wanna risk being caught with your pants down grin!

twinklestar2 Sun 23-Dec-12 11:47:56

Hehe I remember the train incident!

Remember my covert winkling at mother in laws?!

fatasbrandybutter Sun 23-Dec-12 11:50:18

Ah yes - have been trying to block the train incident from my memory!! Yes if anyone is going to get caught...

Hey nic how are you?? I hope all is going really well x

MrsBri Sun 23-Dec-12 11:58:32

Ooh...I'd forgotten the train incident. Grinning remembering it now :-)

Married life is great, thank you. Thankfully the pregnancy seems to be going well. We were given an EDD of 20th June after the 12 week scan, but as that moved us 4 days forwards I think they'll go off the next one as the 'definitive' date.

You lot all need to get upduffed. I miss chatting with you all. The other side isn't quite the same :-/

Will keep everything crossed :-)

WhenSheWasBadSheWasHopeful Sun 23-Dec-12 14:08:58

Hi mrsbrie glad to hear it is all going well. We will all be doing our best to get upduffed I promise.

resipsa thanks for reminding me of the train incident (heehee)

I remember the train incident grin it was going into my film I recall!!!
Ohhh fx winkle another day!

RedRobin1 Sun 23-Dec-12 16:51:44

Haha I remember the train incident too fatas

winkle fx for you still - hoping its late but a positive bfp.

fatas - lol at squeaky bed! Up against bedroom wall? The floor? Be careful of carpet burn!! All in the line of duty!!

Im not a big drinker cos of ds and early morning starts days im.working but i usually head out with friends onxe a month for a wee boozy night out and last cycle was no diff! I hate being asked how much I drink.on average - i could go a fortnight on zero units and then drink 14 in one night and then no more for a fortnight lol

winkle - still no af!!!

mrsbri - hello! Glad all well smile

reindeer - ugh sorry ur in pukesville too. Feeling a bit more normal today, but tomorrow could be another epic day like y'day, so hard to make plans to do anything when you just have no idea how you'll be feeling!!

fatasbrandybutter Sun 23-Dec-12 16:57:56

You lot are a bunch of elephants!! wink
Never telling you anything embarrassing again!! Just kidding - I have since heard of it happening to loads of people so feel better!

We promise to try and get upduffed ASAP mrsbri/nic! Hurry and spread the baby dust over us!

twinklestar2 Sun 23-Dec-12 17:32:12

The thing is, the later AF is the mater I ov'd which means I didn't do it at the crucial time! Dtd cd 13, 15, 16, 17 and 21. Currently on cd35.

RedRobin1 Sun 23-Dec-12 17:44:54

Winkle - When did you get the positive on the cbfm?

We last had a proper good dtd on cd13 but I OVed on cd17. We did dtd on cd16&17 but both times I was in top so I stupidly think that the sperm never got up there. So I think we've most likely missed it this month.

Mrsbri we can't wait to join you either....

Having sex at the inlaws orin a house full of people has always made me uncomfortable. Dh had to cover my mouth last time blush and yes squeaky beds are the worst!

twinklestar2 Sun 23-Dec-12 18:11:14

Red - CDS 15 & 16

fatasbrandybutter Sun 23-Dec-12 19:09:35

red the 2 times I have been pregnant I was on top grin so that throws your theory off! Sounds like you've covered your bases to me x

twinklestar2 Sun 23-Dec-12 22:07:50

Red I wouldn't worry about being out cause you went on top smile

red - u only need a tiny drop to have gotten in there at the right time so dont think being on.top rules this month out. Fx!

winkle - maybe you ov on cd 18 or something and cd17 would have covered you for that? You going to poas again or wait it out??

I'm feeling a bit less sick which is obviously nice but after the last time and the bleeding last week is also making me hmm if all is going well surely the hormone levels should be getting higher and i should be feeling steadily worse. Gah!! Next hospitsl appt isnt til 2nd Jan so just going to have to wait patiently(ish). Now time for xmas eve to commence!!

SantaKittenClaws Mon 24-Dec-12 09:36:45

Wow you girls can talk, I've only been off for a couple fo days and I've missed so much! Quick catch up then (sorry if I miss anyone)...

monthly congrats on the bfp! grin

twinkle still got my fx that af is staying away for the right reasons!

littlemiss and raindeer sorry you're both feeling pukey (but only a little bit as it's a good thing really....bit weird to feel envy of someone's nausea!)

red don't lose hope yet, it sounds like you covered your bases dtd so you're definitely in with a chance - it's not over till the witch shows her ugly face

fatas lol at trying to dtd quietly - I think you needed to get down on the floor! grin

mrsbri <waves> glad eberything is going well for you, hopefully we can all come and join you soon!

I don't have anything to update really - am halfway through the 2ww and trying my best to ignore it really and just busy myself with Christmas. Absolutely no signs or symptoms not that i've been looking honest

Anyone else at work today? I'm in the office until 1230, booo sad

RedRobin1 Mon 24-Dec-12 10:28:31

Thanks girls smile just a waiting game I guess. 11dpo today and feel just same as last month.

Hope the morning sickness reduces for both of you so you can enjoy Christmas without being pukeysmile

winkle You have def got it covered as sperm lives upto 5 days inside ou during your fertile period. So even of you OVed late you'd have plenty floating around. Still no sign of AF? smile Hard to not get excited!

RedRobin1 Mon 24-Dec-12 10:30:08

Hi kitten booooo to work! Hope you get to leave early today. In at home in pjs still.

Have forgotten to get something on the list so will brave the supermarket for some food shopping in a little while.

Thingymajigs Mon 24-Dec-12 10:51:03

Hope you all have a lovely Christmas. Good luck to everyone in their tww and those waiting for scans. I'm going to be busy pestering my partner for sex until New Years and getting ready for Christmas. I'm cooking for the entire family tomorrow. Have a good one! smile

Yes happy xmas everyone grin !! Feeling sick again, hoping that's a good sign!

I've been off work since Wednesday - just got last presents wrapped and another load of washing done. Just need to cook ham, make soup, do some ironing and give the living room a good hoover and that for everyone coming round tomorrow. Meantime I've banished DH and DS to the park for half an hour so got feet up and muppets xmas carol on tv!

Christmassy baby dust and good wishes to everyone mid-shagathon or on 2 WW or about to poas. Really hope Santa is good to us all - after visiting my friend and her 6 day old baby girl yesterday I am feeling vvvvvvvvv broody!!!!!!

SantaKittenClaws Mon 24-Dec-12 11:42:43

Oohhhhhhh I LOVE the Muppets Christmas Carol! We watched the Patrick Stewart version on saturday, it was good but it's just not the same without Kermy and Michale Caine grin

Roll on 12.30 so I can sod off home - I want to start my Christmas!! Good luck at the supermarket red, you're bonkers brave!

Merry Christmas lovely ladies!

gringringringringringringringrin

twinklestar2 Mon 24-Dec-12 11:54:45

Hi all

Still no sign but sometimes feel like she's coming.

Not sure if I should bother testing as surely the free would have picked it up?

twinklestar2 Mon 24-Dec-12 12:41:39

Merry bloody Christmas - literally. Cd1 again.

BelissimaLol Mon 24-Dec-12 12:53:48

Oh no winkle. I was so hopeful for you this time. Lots of sad news around today.
Keep your chin up. Your time will come xx

twinklestar2 Mon 24-Dec-12 13:40:08

Thanks lol. I feel ok cause I always expect it I guess. I really believe it won't happen for us naturally. Ringing the docs on Jan 2nd to get our referral and get on the list for the next stage.

Red - I looked over hubs SA last night and he was tested for ASA and the reading said negative.

weetinselchops Mon 24-Dec-12 15:08:47

Oh winkle am truly gutted for you.

I don't think I'll have a chance to post later so I just wanted to say Merry Christmas to you all, and I hope you have a wonderful day whatever you get up to xxx

RedRobin1 Mon 24-Dec-12 15:58:09

confused winkle so sorry. Glad his ASAs were negative. DH has an excellent count and motility but the bastard ASAs are probably stopping the good ones from meeting my egg hmm

Got tempted to do a test but then thought its no point as I know af will come soon. I don't feel anything this month. Getting psyched for my hycosy in the new year hmm

Bad idea to go food shopping on christmas eve! def bonkers! Ended up being surrounded by hundreds of OAPs and their trolleys in m&s! I got out alive though.

Merry Christmas everyone and hope this is our last one ttcing.

twinklestar2 Mon 24-Dec-12 17:23:59

I second that red: merry Christmas to you all and my xmas wish is we aren't TTCing next Xmas.

ReindeerOutdoors Mon 24-Dec-12 18:46:30

I'm sorry winkle. 2013 will be your year, however it happens.

Merry Christmas everyone smile

twinklestar2 Mon 24-Dec-12 18:51:36

Thanks reindeer, it just has to be. I don't know how I'll cope if it isn't.

fatasbrandybutter Mon 24-Dec-12 20:00:11

Oh winkle sad <hugs>
Have a lovely Christmas despite that and I also will wish we aren't ttcing next Christmas

Am tucking into plenty of wine - am buggered if TTC is going to make my Christmas miserable this year! I just know this wont be my month (not enough dtd already!) so no point in being all sober whilst everyone gets tipsy! wink

Happy Christmas all! X

Sorry winkle sad new year and new start coming up tho!

twinklestar2 Mon 24-Dec-12 20:10:57

In the new year we are going booze and fags free, organic food, back in the gym, healthily lifestyle. That better do it!

MonthlyWishesCameTrue Tue 25-Dec-12 19:33:26

twinkle, sorry about AF . The month I conceived I cut down alcohol, fell for advertising and took pregnacare vitamins and vita west DHA, but then other people do completely the opposite so I think I felt better thinking I was actively doing something.
Although I think the thing that swung it was DH having the form and booking his SA that made him work extra hard.

I've Bern lurking, because I feel a bit bad that I only just joined you and got my BFP, but I was the last person left on my old ttc thread as they all buggered off with BFPs. Also because at 4wks +6, so 2wk+6 from conception digital still saying 1-2weeks and I'm doing them every 2 bloody days so I think this is not going to stick and ill be back with you soon

twinklestar2 Tue 25-Dec-12 20:28:24

Hope not monthly (in the nicest possible way smile)

twinklestar2 Wed 26-Dec-12 11:23:43

Hope you all had a lovely Xmas and it wasn't too hard without your own babies. I had a lovely day with my lovely nieces and nephews all around me. My mum said to me and DH hopefully next year that she'd have another grandchild running around - me too mum, me too!!!

fatasbrandybutter Wed 26-Dec-12 13:07:20

Sounds lovely winkle we also had a lovely Christmas with the out-laws though tempers seem to be running a bit high (maybe hangover related?!) today - cue me trying to exit (foiled hmm)!

The MIL made comments about why have all my friends had second babies and how she was pretend cross with me for not supplying the next one (doesn't know about the mc of course) and I literally had to sit on my hands!!! angryangryangry

Grrr families! Cue more winewinewinewinewinewinewinewine
wink

fatasbrandybutter Wed 26-Dec-12 17:59:48

monthly I don't think those tests are really sensitive enough for you to worry unduly (but equally do understand it is v stressful) - the obvious thing to do is to wait at least a week before doing another one! (But as a pops addict I can see that is easier said than done!!!)

fatasbrandybutter Wed 26-Dec-12 19:15:16

Oops! That should be POAS addict!! Lol smile

monthly - Def don't let the digi tests stress you out! Even if you can pinpoint ov exactly, it might have implanted a couple of days later than you estimated so you might not be 4+6, and it's only an estimate really anyway. It's a long wait til booking scan at 10 or 11 weeks but hang in there!

twinkle - glad you had a nice xmas, I was actually thinking about you yesterday and you too red and all ladies on here! Wish everyone could have got xmas bfps but I know 2013 will hold lots of excitement for everyone

fatas - Grr at your MIL! You handled that very maturely! My MIL and FIL both know about my mmc in summer and they know I'm pg now but that I'm a bit worried with bleeding etc. so they spent all afternoon trying to say reassuring and nice things to me, which was really lovely of them but I'm just trying to keep my mind off it...but I could hardly shout SHUT UP!!! (esp cos they'd just cooked me a lovely lunch!)

Hope everyone had a great Christmas! Mine has been lovely, DS really excited about it, first year he's kind of 'got' it. Sickness has been held at bay (which has stressed me out tbh...where has it gone??) but still feeling very tired and just wanting to hang out at home so I'm skipping a catch up night out with friends tonight - first boxing day I haven't been out on the town in about 12 years!!!!!!!

twinklestar2 Wed 26-Dec-12 21:33:53

Thanks for thinking about me littlemiss smile

RedRobin1 Wed 26-Dec-12 23:48:43

littlemiss hope you've gotten a temporary respite from the sickness. Have you got an early scan booked? Thanks for thinking of us.

I had a lovely Christmas. Don't think I have ever laughed so much. Even my pregnant sil didn't bother me too much. I am just waiting patiently for my turn to be sat at the table with a bump.

I have started spotting today hmm not long till she comes in full flow. On time as always <sad sigh>.

fatasbrandybutter Thu 27-Dec-12 00:11:55

I'm sorry red ... fx for you in 2013 if she does appear x

twinklestar2 Thu 27-Dec-12 01:10:31

Argh stupid AF red!

2013 WILL BE OUR YEAR!!!

SantaKittenClaws Thu 27-Dec-12 10:00:48

Bloddy bastarding AF twinkle and red - I am angry on your behalf! Hope she does one soon and you can both start the new year on fresh new cycles - 2013 will be THE year for both of you, I know it!

fatas I'm feeling your pain on the family front - I asked my mum for a new calendar for christmas (kind of a tradition), and she's bought a bloody Family Planner one - the kind with loads of columns for you to write mum/dad/the kids names in!! She got lots of hmmhmm looks from me. Well done you for containing yourself when your MIL started.

littlemiss and monthly glad you're both hanging in there, fx you can both settle into it and worry less soon.

Hope everyone's had a lovely Christmas!

weetinselchops Thu 27-Dec-12 10:08:11

red 2013 is soooo going to be our year.

We had a lovely Christmas, just me dh and the 2 monsters for dinner smile First time I've ever just cooked for us 4! Went to hospital to see my dad, then popped over to dh family (who are lovely so no dramas) and had some games, then back home, monsters in bed and snuggled with dh. Happy day smile

I think I'm around 6dpo but I'm feeling a loit more relaxed this month. Maybe just because dh is here for 4 weeks this time! Anyhoo, not stressing.

RedRobin1 Thu 27-Dec-12 10:19:32

Thanks girls. I am okay. Had prepared myself for it already so handling it better.

2013 has got to be our year! I don't think I can survive this torture longer.

We have decided to try for another two months and then take a break for a month or so.

Sounds like a lovely Christmas wee!

Oh red ... Grr at AF angry That really sucks, so hope this is the last af you'll see for a very long while

kitten - argh at your MIL!!

7+5 now, no more bleeding, feeling sick again (just stopped wretching five mins ago after this mornings session) but stupidly keep reminding myself that everything was ok the last time too until after 8 weeks. Next scan is on Wed tho so hopefully that will go ok and maybe then I can start to relax slightly

Thingymajigs Fri 28-Dec-12 10:21:57

Glad to hear everything is ok with you little
Not so great about the BFN's and AF's showing up over Christmas though. 2013 will be out year though definitely. smile
I am so fat after Christmas. I stopped counting calories and went a bit crazy. Daren't stand on the scales but I imagine I'm now 7-10 lbs heavier. Time to get back to normality and put down the Mince Pies. Didn't manage a completely booze free Xmas as I drank a small glass of Rose but I'm not counting that. My temp has dropped massively so I'm ovulating today but DP is still asleep. Can't blame him though because he slept on the floor so I could stay in bed with ds2 who had badly bumped his head. Still, I feel like waking him up by announcing my imminent ovulation. I'm sure he'll love that.
How's everyone doing? Still in lazy Christmas mode or already taking down the decorations and putting the fitness DVD's on?

thingy Def still in lazy xmas mode! Til I make it to 12 weeks lol Got my pregnancy fitness dvds awaiting but not til I make it out of first tri. House is a state!! Hopefully won't be feeling so ill tomorrow and can make a start into it, but not taking xmas decorations down til new years day smile Now give DP a shake and tell him sorry you had to sleep on the floor darling but it's time to get busy!

SantaKittenClaws Fri 28-Dec-12 10:54:10

Oh god thingy I totally agree, I have GOT to step away from the food!! The problem is our fridge is crammed full of leftovers and yummy Christmassy treats, and the house generally is full of crisps and chocolates and biscuits - I don't think we've had an actual proper cooked meal since Christmas dinner! Blurgh. I've definitely passed my junk limit though - have been at work yesterday and today and have barely eaten a thing kind of. I've also drank (drunk?) way more alcohol than I was intending too but I refuse to feel bad about it because if I get to next week and get a BFN anyway then I'll feel like I wasted Christmas. January is detox month though - xmas decs come down new years day, and as part of that I shall be boxing up all junk food and taping it up until February - eek! grin

twinklestar2 Fri 28-Dec-12 11:06:10

Still in Xmas mode here. Am at MIL's for a couple of days, meeting up with friends today, family again on Saturday then seeing friends again on Sunday so I'm not giving up food or drink till the new year.

Then it's no smoking, drinking and back to organic food and exercise!

Thingymajigs Fri 28-Dec-12 11:16:08

I'm waiting til New Years to take down the decorations too. It takes long enough to put the tree up so I insist we make the most out of it.
I didn't think it was possible to eat so much that you didn't feel like eating the next day but I've actually managed it. It's nearly midday and I still feel full from yesterday.
I'll join you with a detox next month. I'm even going to give up my nightly hot chocolate and a biscuit for a month. Wow, January is going to be depressing but we can do it! Not yet though, there's still a piece of chocolate log left. smile
Right, I'm impatient, time to wake DP.

Had an amazeballs hot chocolate last night! We've more or less managed to eat outselves out of house and home (finaly) so getting Tesco delivery today even though last one was only 6 days ago and we spent a flippin fortune on that!

MonthlyWishesCameTrue Fri 28-Dec-12 11:38:56

I'm keeping my decorations up until the 6th this year, try and drag out the festiveness!

I know what you mean about the junk food, I was actually disappointed that in work yesterday the canteen aren't doing their salad bar until after new year!!

I caved and did another digital test this morning, still 1-2weeks, got gp appointment in a week so guess will get some answers then?

fatasbrandybutter Fri 28-Dec-12 17:48:51

Ah kitten I think you you're very restrained at your mil too!!

Glad to hear everyone else is feeling as piggy as me! We are driving back home (takes all day) tomorrow and I will also be taking down the decorations on New Year's Day... sad

Not sure how the ds will react to getting home and back to 'normal' after all the spoiling and chocolate - he has barely had a square meal all week with all the treats people have been giving him!
I am certainly dreading returning to boring crappy work!!

I have decided a lot of PMA is needed and that 2013 will be the year for us! We only managed to DDT once before ov! So now we are 3 dpo I feel it most unlikely that this will be our month and am trying to prepare for the inevitable and to be a bit more laid back if I can!! blush

MonthlyWishesCameTrue Sat 29-Dec-12 14:16:58

Hi all can I come back and join you properly? Spent last 2 days in hospital, had an ectopic pregnancy but have been really really really lucky that my pregnancy was non viable and was already on its way out. so i dont need the management ir surgery for ectopic. Just have to go back on Monday for bloods again to check hcg is dropping then will start medical management.

I have to wait to have an echo/heart scan before I'm allowed to ttc again, but seeing as you were all so lucky for me the first time I thought I'd hang around with you guys until im allowed to try again in a few months if you don't mind.

Really hoping that this is possible again and that I didn't just get the one magic short cycle with my PCOS. Stupid really but had already planned for next Christmas with a baby, this ttc sucks big time.

Thingymajigs Sat 29-Dec-12 14:20:09

monthlywishes, how are you feeling atm? When is your appointment with the GP? Have you tried using pink dye FRER's to see if the line gets darker?
fatas you only need the once so try not to worry. I'm with you on the PMA this coming year. I refuse to stress anymore.
We've thrown everything at it this cycle. We're making the most of DP's week off work and we've been at it like rabbits. Today I've had actual EWCM! I've never seen it before so I'm saying the EPO is a massive success even if it is just a coincidence. The only danger here is that my hopes might be higher than normal.
What is everyone doing for New Year? I'm planning on my exciting annual tradition of doing nothing on NYE.

Thingymajigs Sat 29-Dec-12 14:22:40

Oh so sorry monthlywishes sad
I was just wondering how you were doing.

Oh monthly - saw this on due in Aug thread earlier and have been thinking about you sad Horrible thing to have happened but glad you won't need surgery at least. Stick around on mumsnet, real life saver for me in August when I'd just had my mmc and wasn't actively ttc again yet but just needed somewhere where I could let all my blehhhhhhh feelings out xx

fatasbrandybutter Sat 29-Dec-12 15:13:19

Oh no monthly I'm so sorry sad
What an awful few days you must have had - lots of thanksthanksthanks and winewinewine and un-MN hugs for you

I hope you are feeling better soon x

Kittenkatzen Sat 29-Dec-12 19:00:41

Oh no monthly I'm so sorry what an awful few days you've had sad

thanks for you

RedRobin1 Sat 29-Dec-12 19:49:30

So sorry to read that monthly must have been awful. Hope you've had lots of cuddles from DH and very big hug for you thanks

My AF hasn't arrived yet and I am feeling so tired and nauseaous for the last 3 days. I slept at 4pm yesterday and again feel the same today. I am not pregnant and a bfn yesterday confirmed it. Just don't know what's going on with AF.

Planning on doing nothin on New Years. Just shattered from Christmas festivities.

twinklestar2 Sat 29-Dec-12 21:46:16

Monthly I am so sorry to hear that X X

MonthlyWishesCameTrue Sat 29-Dec-12 22:43:29

littlemiss thought I'd followed you too!

Guess mc is one of those things that you think will never happen to you, all surreal at the moment, started properly heavily bleeding this afternoon not long after my last post, so hoping everything will be done with soon and when go back for HCG test tomorrow (decided to go tomorrow rather then wait til Monday) won't need to go back to hospital again

fatas I'm going to give the EPO a try when my cycles come back in regularly

Feel a bit better now I just didn't swoop into you thread and then get knocked up and bugger off stealing all the baby dust! My DH was a bit scared about the pregnancy when we found out as he has depression and was worried he wouldn't get better quick enough. But the morning before I started mc he said he was really sorry and had come round to the idea that he would be fine and got excited. I'm really glad he did the u-turn before the mc so there's no bad feelings iykwim, and he's been wonderful the last couple of days.

Feel a bt gutted that I can't start ttc strain away as I know from reading on here that the feeling is you're more fertile then first cycle.

Absolutely knackered, didnt sleep last night, but don't want to but my ipad down because I will start thinking. Looking forward for a drink at new year. Am sending out DH tomorrow for late, Brie and (sp?) for a snow ball and some mulled wine. And eat the Brie and cranberry parcels in the freezer. And use the baked Camembert pot we got for Christmas from DB. Think that'll do for a start tomorrow
smile

RedRobin1 Sat 29-Dec-12 23:52:27

monthly thinking of you sad it's an awful thing to be going through this time of the year. Hope your cycle returns to normal soon and also hoping you can start ttc soon. Fx your dream of a baby at Christmas next year will still come true x

Monthly - good idea, eat and drink your way thru it, anything that helps even a wee bit is worth doing, really do sympathise, terrible thing to go through

Not sure about nye - used to.love it but havent gone out since 08 became 09! In 09/10 i was pg and just starting to really suffer with sickness, in 10/11 ds was just 4 months and last year just had some friends round while he slept upstairs and i made spanish tapas. Normally boxing day wd be my big night out with friends but gave it a miss this year, been.invited to a nye party this year but in two minds at the min about whether to go or not, risk having an impromptu boke fest in front of them blush Scan isnt til Wed either so.not really in best mindset to celebrate until we know if news is good...

resipsa Sun 30-Dec-12 14:51:51

Hi everyone. Belated Merry Xmas from me.
monthly so sorry to read your news. Odd that you clearly felt it wasn't going right. Hope you're back in the actively TTC seat soon. And pleased (not the right word but hope YKWIM) you got it early and don't need surgery.
red and winkle - I'm with you in hoping 2013 will be our year. There's still time to pop one out before next Xmas!
Met a friend in the park today with her 2 year old and 12 day old. Sooo cute. She looked fab, too.
4 friends due before the end of Feb. I won't be able to get away from newborns!
Hope you all have had a fun week. Mine was **! Both DH and DD ill. DM is waiting for chemo to start (but does that excuse the "imagine having 2 of them" comment I got when talking about running round after DD when DH in bed all day - erm, yes, I can imagine it, thanks, as I would have had 2 by now but for m/c!!!).
DS(ister) had a fit on Xmas Day about how "gross" it was that her DS (13) had so few presents compared to our DD (nearly 2). How was that my fault? She is on her own and doesn't earn a fortune so had less to spend but DN has never gone without. Surely at 13 he wouldn't care so long as he got what he wanted (and he did - iPhone).
DS had 2nd fit at DH when he asked if she'd have her spare room sorted out for DM sny time soon (only been waiting 7 years). DM will need to stay with us or her when having chemo so a fair question but DH asked in the context of our considering a weekend away after a tough year and was met with a diatribe about the selfishness of even considering a break when DM in the middle of treatment (ongoing until July at earliest). After a m/c, DH's op with complications, DH's redundancy notice and DM's cancer diagnosis, were we really so selfish to be thinking of a weekend away? Suspect reaction fuelled partly by guilt that DS's spare room not sorted and her frustration that she couldn't have a break herself even if she wanted one.
Phew! Sorry! Stream of self-pity over!

twinklestar2 Sun 30-Dec-12 18:57:25

Friend got married 8th Sep; get the text today that she's 3 months pregnant. Sigh.

twinklestar2 Sun 30-Dec-12 18:58:16

I kept saying to my husband they'll be pregnant before us. And I was right. Whenever anyone gets married these days that's the first thing I think of.

fatasbrandybutter Sun 30-Dec-12 19:06:36

Oh winkle I'm sorry sad it's so frustrating. I'm not sure what's worse: feeling bad yourself, or the guilt of feeling a bit bad towards innocent people! It's horrible confused

And res it's those throwaway comments I've had to put up with all Christmas - about having more than one etc and its really annoying! angry

RedRobin1 Sun 30-Dec-12 19:44:17

Res and twinkle same as you one of my friends has already given birth, another due next week and one more after in feb, and one on the same date as my cp due date in April.

Few more mates trying and I have always told dh they will be pregnant before us, it's easier to be prepared for the 'bad' news beforehand.

BelissimaLol Sun 30-Dec-12 20:48:06

Hi girls marking my spot before guy all forget me!
Still waiting for some of you to join me.
Winkle sorry its so crap for you hun. I'll be married 3 years in may so not everyone gets pg straight away! But I understand your pain. Next year will be your year. I can feel it in my fat gut!
Any poas from you lovely ladies??

BelissimaLol Sun 30-Dec-12 20:48:31

Erm before you all forget me lol!

fatasbrandybutter Sun 30-Dec-12 21:24:50

I'm not due to POAS for another 8 days sorry lol! I'm afraid to use frer early as always get my hopes up! And I normally have quite heavy spotting for few days before so ... (Don't really need to POAS at all in other words, but I always do!)

resipsa Sun 30-Dec-12 21:41:12

No POAS likely here for A-G-E-S. CD 17 and still waiting for +ve OPK. Been, umm, a bit stressful lately (sorry again for over-long earlier post) so expected delayed ov but always on tenterhooks until I know I've DTD at the right time!

RedRobin1 Sun 30-Dec-12 22:10:18

No POAS here for awhile either, besides I never do unless AF is late. Too many disappointments and all.

I have such severe cramping and still mild spotting and no proper AF hmm why doesn't she just come and get it over n done with

BelissimaLol Sun 30-Dec-12 22:27:28

To be fair I'm not an early poaser either. Have always been too scared of bfn. This time I tested when I was late two days and still almost had a heart attack when I saw the line! I texted it to my friend and took the test to work for her to look at!
So I won't egg you on. Will just wait patiently grin

fatasbrandybutter Mon 31-Dec-12 05:16:56

Grrrrr. Ds has been up since 2 o'clock! I have to get up in an hour. Why is he not sleeping?! There's nothing wrong with him at all! DH put him in our bed and he has been kicking the crap out of me ever since. Soooo tired - am sure everyone I speak to at work will appreciate my tired grumpy face hmm Am currently watching some crappy movie on tv - not a peep from DH and DS since I stormed out of bed of course! confused

Sigh...!

res - bit of a stressful xmas! Family drama is the worst! Usually my sis or sil are at the centre of some but this year all was quiet and i really really appreciated
the change!

winkle - oh no, sorry sad in the last 10 days two of my friends have had babies - one has had a v tough time ttc and had a mcthis time last year so i was genuinely delighted for her. The other girl had twins. Our first DSs are 10 weeks apart and our second babies would have been the same except i had mc. Cant help but feel reminded of that and slightly dreading popping in for a visit next week...

red - hmm is that usual for you? Days of cramping and spotting before af actually arrives? Of course i hav my fx that its implantation bleeding & cramping rather than a precursor to AF...

Woke up hurling again this morn. Scan day after tomorrow and no spotting in days. Not exactly feeling confident but a wee bit optimistic anyway - 8+1 now, lost last one around this stage. Bit stressed til this week is over and done!

Kittenkatzen Mon 31-Dec-12 09:53:08

res what a nightmare she sounds! And no of course it's not unreasonable for you to want a weekend away fgs, silly woman - just ignore her and carry on!

thanks for winkle and red, it's horrible isn't it. We were forced to coo over BIL & SIL's 12 wk scan pics with MIL yesterday. MIL is lovely and I so wanted to give her her first gc and now it's just constant reminders that they've beaten us to it despite being younger and married for less time....which I know is selfish and mean spirited of me, but I can't help it sad

fatas grr at your ds for keeping you awake but only a little as I'm sure he's super cute too! Hope you're not to sleepy at work today!

littlemiss very glad you're still pukey grin

Looks like I'll be the next poas-er then...last few cycles have been 24 days but today is CD26 and no signs yet. However, have previously been known to go up to 31 days so not sure when to test really. Was half tempted to poas this morning (just to check if I can drink tonight you understand!) but MIL slept in our room last night and I couldn't get at my ic's.

Kittenkatzen Mon 31-Dec-12 10:13:34

Oh FFS Kim sodding Kardashian is upduffed now too?? angryenvy

RedRobin1 Mon 31-Dec-12 10:49:53

Kitten I had the same with my sil try beat us to it too but had a harder journey than us with assisted conception. However part of me still felt selfishly jealous that they were giving mil her first GC and not us.

Now I just think that no matter what when we have a baby mil will be equally happy for us and excited too. It won't be her first but it doesn't mean she will love it any less. Just have to grin and bear the cooing though and all the pregnancy talks for the next 9 months. To be fair to sil she hasn't been cooing too much knowing we are trying.

AF has arrived a bit late on new years eve and I am finally happy to say bye to this depressing year tonight smile

2013 shall bring happiness, bfps, pregnancies, babies and all the good things we didn't have this year. I think it's high time we deserve some happiness. Happy New Year to all. I can feel the winds of change (literally wink).

kitten - you can make your pee super concentrated by: drinking tea, eating salty food like crisps / bacon and not going for a wee. Then you can poas even though it won't be fmu! That's why I took my cheapo tesco test 4 weeks ago, wanted to go out drinking that night lol FX for you if you are poas! And yes I second that...bloody Kim Kardashian had a secret crush on Kanye, how dare she??!!

red - sorry AF showed up, but new year, new cycle, new start, new chances and new (hopefully) babies etc. [Wine] CHeers to that!

twinklestar2 Mon 31-Dec-12 11:51:39

Really sorry she turned up red.

I think I'm just going to stop going online and never look at my phone! Can't bear all the announcements!

Kittenkatzen Mon 31-Dec-12 12:14:41

red sorry she turned up but loving the PMA and better (I think) that she turn up today than tomorrow - new year/new start smile

hmmm littlemiss I'll think about that this afternoon then, although I'm convinced it would be -ve either way at this point as by my calculations I'm only 11/12 dpo absolute max.

winkle you're not allowed to stop going online as that would mean you stop chatting with us. So there! wink

weechops Mon 31-Dec-12 13:02:25

All the decorations are down, the house is in some sort of order again, and I have shed my Christmassy nickname.

Ok I feel a bit weird saying this, but I think I may have seen a very very faint line on an ic test!

I realised this morning that since I got a +opk on cd14 then maybe my cycle was back to 28 days this month, and that would make me 10dpo today so...... i poas and after nearly 10 mins the faintest of faint lines came up (when I squinted and held it up to the light)

I sent dh to asda to get more tests and hes come back with clearblue so I am not getting any hopes up until I poas tomorrow morning.

I feel a bit funny posting this since some of you are feeling pretty down just now, but I know that I always genuinely get excited when one of us gets a bfp, and I know you understand how I'm feeling. God, I'm wafling, sorry!

Ok am off to stare at the test some more, and will report back tomorrow. Fx!

Kittenkatzen Mon 31-Dec-12 13:37:41

Oooooh weechops how bloody exciting!! Am keeping my fingers firmly crossed for a happy New Year's Day update for you!!! gringrin

fatasbrandybutter Mon 31-Dec-12 14:03:36

Ooh fx wee!!

Thingymajigs Mon 31-Dec-12 14:35:06

My fingers are crossed for you weechops. smile I'll probably be refreshing this thread a bit too much tomorrow while I'm waiting for your news.
I went in to the doctors today as my CD3 results had arrived but the doctor wanted me to see her for the results instead. That in itself is a bit of a worry. I've also got to wait til the 11th now so I can get the CD21 results back too. hmm But I'm assuming everything is ok until I'm told otherwise. Besides, we managed to dtd nearly every day so far this cycle so I'm hoping this will be the one.

RedRobin1 Mon 31-Dec-12 16:44:14

Fx wee we may be off to a good start here. Keep us posted.

Our tree and decorations are down too. All set for new start and a better new year.

Kittenkatzen Mon 31-Dec-12 17:18:48

Gaaaaahhh - inspired by weechops I POAS about 2.30 this afternoon and got a ridiculously faint, practically nonexistent line...but you reeeeeeally had to squint and hold it to the light, and it was after 15 mins when the test says it doesn't count after 10. And AF isn't technically late yet. blush

I'm being stupid aren't I?? It really was the faintest line you ever almost saw. I'm just getting ready to spend NYE at a boozy pub do there no way I can not drink just in case confused

Thingymajigs Mon 31-Dec-12 17:53:20

kittenkatzen is there any way you can get another test at this time? I guess it wouldn't give a good result now anyway because its not morning. But it seems a shame to miss out on New Year fun if you aren't sure of the result. I'm sure you'll have fun tonight anyway though. Please update us when you know. Good luck!
red we've put all our decorations away and it feels good to start over afresh and bring in a new year. Diet starts tomorrow as well because my skinny jeans have to be shoe horned on to me atm.

fatasbrandybutter Mon 31-Dec-12 17:59:08

Ooh kitten! You def need to do another one! Have u got an asda nearby?! Quick quick!

Kittenkatzen Mon 31-Dec-12 18:01:29

Nope no asda...did another IC and def no line. Aaaaaarrrggh! I think it was sooooooo faint I'm going to have to discount it and try again in the morning a few days. confused

fatasbrandybutter Mon 31-Dec-12 21:16:53

Yes you discount it and we will keep our eyes glued to the thread and wait til the morning : fx for first bfp of the thread in 2013 and Happy New Year to everyone too! thanks

WhenSheWasBadSheWasHopeful Mon 31-Dec-12 21:26:35

Hi I've been really busy with Xmas crap and have only skim read the last page.

Is there a whisper of a chance of a BFP for weechops and kitten. V excited.

Hope everyone had a good Xmas.

RedRobin1 Mon 31-Dec-12 22:18:36

Oooo kitten do another in the morning but do enjoy yourself tonight! Fx the lines there in the morning!

resipsa Tue 01-Jan-13 06:53:56

OK, been awake with DD since 4am for no good reason so hoping wee or kitten have some news to keep me awake...

weechops Tue 01-Jan-13 07:55:48

Just done the clear blue digital and it`s .............BFP pregnant 1-2!!!

Ooh I'm excited! Dh is still asleep so he`ll get a good surprise when he wakes up smile

Just came on to wish happy new year and see the lovely news!! Congrats wee so happy for you and fx kitten ( personally I always found the cheepies crap and the first time I used one for a bfp it was so faint it was practically a shadow that only I could see!) frer so good!

resipsa Tue 01-Jan-13 08:33:56

Congrats - what a great start to 2013!!! Hope you've made this a lucky thread!

MrsBri Tue 01-Jan-13 08:48:02

Congrats weechops :-) Fx kitten too.

What a great start to the year.

Thingymajigs Tue 01-Jan-13 09:00:27

Congratulations weechops! grin What an amazing start to 2013. I hope the good vibes continue in this thread now. Happy New Year everyone! smile

fatasbrandybutter Tue 01-Jan-13 09:08:28

Wow! Congratulations wee that's brilliant grin 2013 is looking good so far!!

Kittenkatzen Tue 01-Jan-13 09:32:39

Yay weechops congrats what a lovely start to the year grin

BFN for me on another IC this morning but I was probably pissing pure prosecco tbh might pick up a frer in tesco today to try and tempt the witch out if she is hovering anywhere

MrsBri Tue 01-Jan-13 09:34:08

Pissing on an expensive stick is certainly the best way to draw AF out if she's hiding. Fx it's 2 lines you get instead! :-)

Kittenkatzen Tue 01-Jan-13 10:11:14

My thoughts exactly grin

RedRobin1 Tue 01-Jan-13 11:08:27

Congratulations wee really happy for you grin fx your good luck rubs of on all of us.

kitten waiting for your frer results too. Fingers and toes crossed!

WhenSheWasBadSheWasHopeful Tue 01-Jan-13 11:24:52

weechops that's great news. Congratulations.

kitten I know what you mean re pissing pure prosecco. I did that earlier on an opk. There wasn't even a control line grin. Best of luck with the pricey test later.

WhenSheWasBadSheWasHopeful Tue 01-Jan-13 11:25:22

Oh only on cd 12 not expect

WhenSheWasBadSheWasHopeful Tue 01-Jan-13 11:25:57

Not expecting ov till at least cd 16 (but had better get dtd)

fatasbutter Tue 01-Jan-13 11:38:47

grin lol at when having no control line!!

Yes good luck kitten smile

twinklestar2 Tue 01-Jan-13 11:39:49

Aw wee what fab news to start the new year. Congratulations! And to think you always had issues with you and oh being in the same place around OV!!! Is this your first?

I hope to see similar news from you kitten!

BelissimaLol Tue 01-Jan-13 11:46:57

Happy new year!
Amazing news wee. You must be over the moon!

weechops Tue 01-Jan-13 12:42:34

Thanks girls I haven't stopped smiling smile this is the first month we've dtd before ov, day of ov and after ov. Because dh was home for once! This will be baby number 3 and we already have a girl and z boy so will be expecting plenty of 'why do you want another' type comments. Because we do < blows raspberry at negative family members> smile

fatasbutter Tue 01-Jan-13 14:51:50

Where are you kitten?

Kittenkatzen Tue 01-Jan-13 15:39:33

Sorry grin Have been busy deChristmassing the house - so nice to have the space back.

I did venture to tesco and have purchased an frer....haven't been brave enough to do it yet though!!

So happy for you weechops gringrin

MrsBri Tue 01-Jan-13 15:42:00

Best to save it for FMU now, I think (boo!!!).

Kittenkatzen Tue 01-Jan-13 15:44:19

Yeah I think so....don't want to waste one at £5 a piss pop smile

fatasbutter Tue 01-Jan-13 15:57:40

Argh! The suspense! Just kidding - trying to ignore being 7 or 8 dpo - anyone else POAS next week? I'm feeling a bit crampy (normal for me a week before the witch comes) so not hopeful really but I always get a bit carried away until I see actual af even when I KNOW she's on her way! stupid brain hmm

WhenSheWasBadSheWasHopeful Tue 01-Jan-13 17:19:16

Ooh fx for you tomorrow kitten I'll need something to cheer me up. It's back to work day after almost 3 weeks off.

Kittenkatzen Tue 01-Jan-13 17:32:17

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh fuckfuckfuckfuck....

Just did the frer

Faint +ve

Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck

shockshockshock

I told you!!!! Oh god bless the frer and non fmu too, your preggers kitten!! gringrin

Thingymajigs Tue 01-Jan-13 17:42:39

Another BFP on New Years Day! Congratulations kitten! Seriously, what are the chances of two together on this thread today.

MrsBri Tue 01-Jan-13 17:50:24

You impatient bugger, kitten! Huge.congratulations! :-)

Kittenkatzen Tue 01-Jan-13 17:56:31

Thanks girls grin

Will admit to being slightly terrified confused

DS has tummy bug and im still wretched with nausea so havent been on MN since y'day and was just popping in to wish you all a v happy new year and I see we have some very exciting news for not one but TWO ladies!!!

Huge congrats wee - all it takes is once to get lucky and very delighted that December was your lucky month!!

And kitten...wow!!!! Amazing!!!! I can never be patient enough to wait for fmu either lol really wonderful news

grin to you both!! I'm thinking wr're going to be needing a graduates thread soon where I hope everyone will be able to join us v v soon. Not tempting fate tho...scan tomorrow to check things are still going ok confused

twinklestar2 Tue 01-Jan-13 18:15:32

Yes yes yes! Fab news kitten!

Me, red, when and fatas next!!!!!!

Kittenkatzen Tue 01-Jan-13 18:20:54

Thanks ladies smile

littlemiss hope you and ds are feeling better soon

Yes BFPs for everyone please....we can just decamp to a grads Fred en mass then! grin

weechops Tue 01-Jan-13 18:36:36

Kitten woohoo!!! So so chuffed for you smile smile

I kind of don't want to go to another thread as I love this one so much! But some familiar faces will definitely help. Fingers firmly crossed for the rest of the gang to get upduffed this month.

I just hosted NY dinner for the in laws and had a convenient migraine to explain the no booze. ( I actually have had one for 2 days) bfp taken my mind off it though smile

RedRobin1 Tue 01-Jan-13 19:00:52

Ooooooh yipeeee kitten not one but 2 bfps! Wishes do come true smile

This is going to be our year girls!

Come on fatas and when - I think you two are next to POAS grin

Mines not going to be till end of the month! Really happy for you kitten! Yay!

resipsa Tue 01-Jan-13 19:32:20

F**k me, kitten CONGRATS!!!
Two of you - lucky thread now thanks to you! Yay!
Hey, winkle can I get in after you lot grin?
Feeling v optimistic today. Got +ve OPK this morning and DTD Sun, Mon & today. Will also go for Weds and Thurs. Pls, pls let luck rub off on me, oh, and everyone else, obviously! wink

WhenSheWasBadSheWasHopeful Tue 01-Jan-13 19:55:38

Oh that's such great news, I will admit to feeling a bit nervous for you. Huge congrats.

I think this means there are lots of positive vibes for us all this year as in January on cd 12 today. Dtd starts tomorrow.

twinklestar2 Tue 01-Jan-13 19:59:52

And res and thingy too!!

I don't like it when people leave the thread never to be heard of again! I like to hear how they're getting on, what they called the baby etc. although it can be quite hard... I started the April BFP thread and I saw someone from there the other day on another board and she was about to give birth soon sad

BelissimaLol Tue 01-Jan-13 22:12:05

Wow two in one day! We need to start a grads thread. I'm not on any ante natal ones. Too scared. Prefer to hang around with you girls grin

fatasbutter Tue 01-Jan-13 22:50:11

Wow! Congratulations kitten!!! 2 in one day is absolutely awesome! I hope it's not just a blip!!

I'm fairly certain it won't be me this month - already feel very pre-af - but will keep the positive vibes going for everyone else grin

MonthlyWishesCameTrue Wed 02-Jan-13 00:18:03

Congrats kitten and weechops best news for New Year's Day!

MonthlyWishesCameTrue Wed 02-Jan-13 00:19:10

I've got last appointment for mc next Thursday, then will see what happens to cycle after then. I really need to change my user name as well now!

Kittenkatzen Wed 02-Jan-13 07:12:53

sad and thanks for you monthly

kiwi5 Wed 02-Jan-13 07:18:15

Came back for a quick lurk and hurrah for wee and kitten. So pleased for u both. Hope all goes well. Fx crossed for everyone else too. Happy new year.

WhenSheWasBadSheWasHopeful Wed 02-Jan-13 09:50:29

So sorry monthly hope your cycle gets back on track soon.

Cd13 today, have booked in a shag with dh tonight. No sign of ov yet.

twinklestar2 Wed 02-Jan-13 10:20:05

Hugs to you monthly.

Waves at kiwi!

Cd10 here for me already! Early night tonight booked in. Have hurt my back but have to dtd.

MonthlyWishesCameTrue Wed 02-Jan-13 10:31:25

Fight through that pain twinkle star!

Still can't believe 2 BFP for New Year's Day, that's awesome

Kittenkatzen Wed 02-Jan-13 11:39:41

twinkle I hereby prescribe strict missionary for you - make DH do a bit of work ha! isn't missionary supposed to be best for TTC too

Another faint bfp on frer this morning. Well, I say faint - it's definitely there, no squinting required just not as dark as the control line smile AF officially due today so I'm on knicker patrol!

Thingymajigs Wed 02-Jan-13 12:20:29

I'm 3dpo and my temperature has gone really high this cycle. I need to take the winter duvet off. We managed to dtd CD 7, 8, 11, 12, 13 and 14 (ov) before having a well deserved rest. This is the first time FF has said our intercourse pattern was 'high' instead of 'good' so I've got my fingers crossed.
Seems like a few of you are heading towards O too. Hope your back is ok twinkle. I feel like I have to book in with my DP too when. He has taken to examining my chart and memorising my fertile period though so I don't have to announce it each day which works much better for us.

WhenSheWasBadSheWasHopeful Wed 02-Jan-13 12:50:07

Your dp sounds great thingy with the checking of the chart. Mine gets really put off by mentioning anything fertility related. I have to keep my mouth shut re ov tests etc.

RedRobin1 Wed 02-Jan-13 13:08:45

thingy we do the same! we book in when to dtd excitedly every month like we are approaching the bloody christmas advent calendar - how sad is that! But it works for us grin DH is very inquisitive about all that fertility stuff.

I like temping and its given me more confidence about when I ovulate and shows that my luteal phase is constant every month. It makes me feel a little more in control. I try not to temp all the time just CD10 to 12DPO because by then I know when I OVed or if I am likely to conceive.

twinkle try some deep heat or a hot bath if that helps and yeah go for the missionary.

kitten and wee I am still so excited about your bfps. How long have you guys been ttc? I am on cycle 9 and just want some hope.

Kittenkatzen Wed 02-Jan-13 13:19:57

grin at booking in the month's worth of dtd in advance! I didn't mention ov to DH for the first few months, then he got all interested and wanted to know, but just recently he's been feeling the pressure and we actually came to an agreement the other day that I shouldn't mention it any more!

red this is cycle 9 for me, I really hope it's a lucky number for both of us!! I have shortish cycles though so timewise it's actually been 8 months (started ttc beginning of May)...

Just bought a cb digi and did it in the toilets at work classy. That's 3 POAexpensiveS in 24 hours..must stop now or I'll be bankrupt confused

Kitten tests are addictive especially for first, I've always had to get a cb digi to confirm in writing grin never wasted them when I hadn't tried a cheeper one first mind make sure you take a pic as its sad when the battery runs out!!
< bet you got a twin pack though didn't you?!wink>

weechops Wed 02-Jan-13 14:17:30

red this is cycle 7 for us. I honestly think that it was quantity not quality that worked for us ha! Although dh is sure he just has 'supersperm' Yeah they've not managed to catch my egg til now pal!

kitten i used the other digi that was in the pack today and am resisting the urge to go buy more!

Kittenkatzen Wed 02-Jan-13 14:35:31

That's exactly it kittens I just really wanted to see it in writing rather then have the niggly thought that the line was a bit faint (and yes I bought the twin pack HA!)

wee it's a bloody expensive habit isn't it! <whispers - I just joined the very tentative Sept 2013 fred, come and be paranoid with me keep me company!>

resipsa Wed 02-Jan-13 14:39:23

Yeah kitten definitely take a pic (and another when it moves on to 2-3 weeks). I did one on hols so have a lovely pic of the French one saying "enceinte"!
I bet a lot of testing goes on in the workplace. Sometimes as I'm sitting there I wonder if anyone near me is getting good news (anything to avoid going back to my desk, you see).

Would it make you feel better if I told you I had used 9 this time blush I got 4 of the digi as wanted to make sure it was going up!
I hate to imagine how much I've spent on pregnancys this year but know its in the hundreds! Eek

kitten - yep nothing like seeing the words on a digi instead of looking at a line and wondering if it' dark enough / getting darker etc grin congrats again!!

winkle - sorry about your back, hope a hot water bottle and careful dtd helps!

wee - my DH also convinced of same thing lol Oh my wife has pcos, irregular cycles, a toddler to look after and a part time job which means a lot of early starts. and had a mmc in.last few months? Challenge to get her up duffed accepted etc. Groan

Good news for us at hospital today - scan showed 8+4 baby, good heartbeat, growing at the right rate, limb buds appearing, picked up immediately on scan without nervous seconds ticking by!! As long as no more bleeding, I wont have to go back now til booking appointment in about 3 weeks. Woo hoo!

So yes, I will start us a grads thread for kiwi, mrsbri, belissimalol*, kitten, wee, me, anyone i've left out and of course with LOTS of room for EVERYONE (and i do mean everyone!) on here to come and join us!! Its nice to have a continuation of our support group, esp cos ante natal threads can get so hectic and cos we hav all had a tough enough ttc ride not to take things for granted so, for example, while many ladies would be extremely peeved to be feeling as sick as i am im weirdly pleased cos in my case it means things are going well!! I'll post link here in a mo xx

resipsa Wed 02-Jan-13 15:05:27

grin
Recession-proof products/services : anything to do with babies!

resipsa Wed 02-Jan-13 15:06:32

littlemiss - fab news. Ooh, I love a scan that goes well!!!

res - Agreed...and toddlers!! My DS is beung a bit of a picky eater at the mo and the amount of money I'm having to spend on healthyish food that is also acceprable to the wee monkey is like nothing else!!!

Ladies here it is, our brand spanking new grads thread!!! www.mumsnet.com/Talk/antenatal_clubs/1649179-BFP-wishes-CAME-true-The-Graduates-Club

Think you've seen the last of us over here?? Think again!! There'll be a whole lotta lurkin going on!!

MrsBri Wed 02-Jan-13 15:24:56

I am a seasoned lurker! Don't want to say goodbye to you lot :-/

MrsBri Wed 02-Jan-13 15:35:08

Oh, and lovely scan news too :-)

Kittenkatzen Wed 02-Jan-13 15:41:06

Ooh res I'm envy of your French test....I'm going to Italy in a couple of weeks, must see if I can get one there - we could have a BFPs around the world challenge ha!

NINE kittens?! <doffs hat> you win! so far..... grin

Thingymajigs Wed 02-Jan-13 15:41:39

Great news about the scan little smile It's reminding me that the worry and waiting doesn't stop at conception. Which is actually quite helpful because I realise that I might as well just relax now.
I love the new thread idea too. Can't wait until we are all over there comparing bump measurements and scan results. smile

resipsa Wed 02-Jan-13 16:05:22

kitten - incinta - I like the way it sounds! Bet they have CB digis!

Kittenkatzen Wed 02-Jan-13 16:07:44

res I bet I could find a leopard print gucci digi lol

twinklestar2 Wed 02-Jan-13 16:33:32

Great news about the scan littlemiss!

I can't wait to join the grads thread!

You need to find wishfulthinking and tedmundo and tell them to join!

Lol at leopard print digi - so Italia!!

Oh yes wishful and ted - if ur still lurking please pop over and giv the grads some encouragement...we can make it to EDD with lots of hand holding and cake...right?!

RedRobin1 Wed 02-Jan-13 19:10:32

Great news about the scan littlemiss and I can't wait to join you all on the graduates thread!

DH and I are sincerely desperately madly crazily insanely wishing January is finally our month! It's got to be!

fatasbutter Wed 02-Jan-13 19:34:28

Oh I want to join the new Fred too!! Me me me!! shock

twinklestar2 Wed 02-Jan-13 20:24:41

Us too red! We have given up drinking and smoking, cut back on the teas and coffees and gone organic. Please work please!

From where I'm lying I can see our wedding photo from 18 months ago. Who would have thought we would still be trying for our first baby?

SunshineOutdoors Wed 02-Jan-13 20:28:21

Congrats weechops and kitten!!!!!

WhenSheWasBadSheWasHopeful Wed 02-Jan-13 22:55:06

Hi twinkle & red we have quit the drink for January too. Really hope it works.

Cd 13 and just dtd and had a bit of a winkle too (no tinkling though grin). Don't feel like ov is due anytime soon but at least I've got some swimmers in me just in case.

RedRobin1 Wed 02-Jan-13 23:19:34

I haven't cut out drinking as we probably have 1 unit a month these days. But not had any caffeine for 6 months ( decaf teas only) and trying the organic thing this month with more raw veggies in meals.

Also been put on vitamin d supplements by GP as my levels are low.

twinklestar2 Wed 02-Jan-13 23:26:13

Snap when - have also dtd and winkled for nearly half an hour. On cd10 here. Will go for eod for the next couple of weeks.

MonthlyWishesCameTrue Wed 02-Jan-13 23:28:23

littlemiss glad the scan was ok, ive been still lurking on the August bop thread -- to torture myself-- and saw it there. Time to step away me thinks!

fatasbutter Thu 03-Jan-13 08:42:02

Well done winkle and when - you are very organised and have obliging DHs don't you!!
As someone else was saying earlier I also can't mention anything about TTC as DH gets all moody and says it ruins dtd etc - men are such divas aren't they sometimes!!!

Well, I'm about 9dpo here and struggling to avoid POAS. Still fairly certain we haven't done enough this month, plus the fact that I've been drinking like a sponge all month!! wink
Well, I couldn't let TTC affect Christmas when I've been so long without a bfp could I?! If I can make it to the weekend without any of my pre-af spotting then I may POAS then...

Thingymajigs Thu 03-Jan-13 08:58:45

What is tinkling and winkling? I guess one is to lie down to help the swimmers.
I'm joining in with the alcohol free January although I only have 2 units a month anyway but it's worth a try. Also going to try low carb since I eat far too much rice, potatoes and pasta. It'll be incredibly hard for me to eat enough calories without those but I'll give it a go for a bit. Probably one day until I binge on rice I'd imagine.

twinklestar2 Thu 03-Jan-13 09:03:45

Thingy why not switch to wholemeal / brown versions of carbs? That's what we're doing.

Winkling means to lay with your legs in the air; tinkling means to erm pleasure yourself afterwards as apparently when you orgasm it causes tiny contractions to help the swimmers along! It worked for tedmundo LOL

Weirdly my monitor peaked today? But I'm only on cd11? Extremely early for me. We only started dtd yesterday and will have to dtd tonight and tomorrow too. Hope that's enough.

Kittenkatzen Thu 03-Jan-13 09:11:32

fatas if it makes you feel any better I spent this 2ww drinking my bodyweight in prosecco, scoffing all manner of mouldy cheeses, pate's, sunny eggs and generally avoiding anything even vaguely healthy grin

Good work with the health kicks though girls, fx it works for you all at once!

Thingymajigs Thu 03-Jan-13 09:33:28

twinkle I had decided to do that but last night I read that 70g of carbs a day was ideal but I couldn't figure out how to get it that low unless I ate only 600 calories a day. Even fruit and veg is high in carbs. I'm not sure if its possible to live on such low amounts tbh. I think I'll do as you are and switch to brown/wholemeal versions. Surely any reduction is better than none.
Thanks for the explanation. I have apparently been doing a lot of tinkling and winkling over the last 7 months.

WhenSheWasBadSheWasHopeful Thu 03-Jan-13 09:42:38

Re the tinkling I think being aroused helps produce more ewcm and generally makes the vagina more sperm friendly (as well as the orgasm contraction benefits to help the swimmers along).

It's a bloody good job we dtd last night. I have pretty much lost my voice today.

Puking here since 4am! Feeling envious of ladies engaged in healthy eating practices - im eating the occasional slice of pizza or belvita breakfast biscuit and hoping for the best cos thats all i can keep down!!! Poor baby in there!!

WhenSheWasBadSheWasHopeful Thu 03-Jan-13 11:00:49

I don't feel sorry for the baby littlemiss he or she will be just fine. It's you I feel sorry for (and a little bit envy of).

twinklestar2 Thu 03-Jan-13 12:33:39

Wish I was puking from being pregnant!

Did I tell you girls I'm seeing the docs on the 15th for the next stage?

WhenSheWasBadSheWasHopeful Thu 03-Jan-13 12:38:56

No I don't think so. Is it a GPs app or consultant? Keep us updated smile.

twinkle - glad to hear that, really hope dr appt is helpful for you.

when - i know, really shouldn't complain, I really really wanted to get up duffed and I knew that having had HG with DS and bad sickness with mc pg in summer there was a very good chance I'd be very ill this time round. And I am. So no surprises! But it's stressful wondering whether to take the tablets GP has given me a prescription for and not being able to look after DS myself confused Really hope to see you guys over on the grad thread soon tho, where we can all be somewhat stressed and confused together!

twinklestar2 Thu 03-Jan-13 14:42:53

The appt is with the gp to get referred to the next stage. So I can get my tubes flushed.

Hope you feel better soon littlemiss x

RedRobin1 Thu 03-Jan-13 14:52:54

Good luck Twinkle fingers crossed for you.

I am chewing my nails as my hycosy is next Monday. A wee bit worried about the pain. But if it works, I don't really care about the pain.

Just realised this time last year I was so excited to start popping my pregnacare conception pills sad Boooo to last year!

twinklestar2 Thu 03-Jan-13 15:18:58

I also felt a tinge of sadness in December as the previous December I was reading up about how to get pregnant and was full of hope for 2012.

I brought 3 packs of pregnacare conception the other day! Flipping expensive but can't switch to a cheaper brand now 'just in case'. Silly hey!?

I don't think the hycosy hurts as such, prob just a little bit uncomfortable. You're lucky you're having it 6 months into trying, that's great.

RedRobin1 Thu 03-Jan-13 18:00:27

Wish it was 6months only, but it's been 8 months and getting it done on cycle 9. Just never thought it would take so long. Buying the cheaper alternative to pregnacare doesn't sound like a bad idea!

fatasbutter Thu 03-Jan-13 18:39:31

This is cycle 9 for me too red - cannot believe how easily I fell pregnant before my mmc (first month!) and now this! So frustrating hmm

twinklestar2 Thu 03-Jan-13 18:50:14

Sorry red, didn't realise it'd been 9 months.

RedRobin1 Thu 03-Jan-13 20:49:33

It's ok winkle it'll be our time soon. Just hoping 2013 keeps getting better.

RedRobin1 Thu 03-Jan-13 20:50:17

fatas when do you POAS? Fx AF stays away this cycle x

twinklestar2 Thu 03-Jan-13 22:24:33

Sooooo tired but have to dtd tonight! Yaaaaaaawn.

WhenSheWasBadSheWasHopeful Thu 03-Jan-13 23:06:59

red twinkle and fatas I've been trying since April (& two month break). It is so our turn this year. Just hope it's this cycle for all of us.

twinkle well done on dtd. I don't feel like ov is anywhere near so am giving it a miss tonight. Dh just told me he is feeling run down as he has been drinking loads, eating crap and forgot to take his vits over Xmas. Damn him I need him to make me healthy sperm.

twinklestar2 Thu 03-Jan-13 23:41:03

Sorry your DH isn't feeling up to it. Mine wasn't very well last jan, the Xmas excesses get to them I think!

Currently winkling grin

fatasbutter Fri 04-Jan-13 00:16:20

Nice one winkle! wink

Red I should really wait til Tuesday but if I don't get any spotting tomorrow then I may POAS on sat if I absolutely can't wait!! I am a very impatient person so probably sat!! grin

What about you? I've lost track of who does what when!! must be preggers already winkwinkwink

Thingymajigs Fri 04-Jan-13 07:22:59

This is the only time in our lives that we can get pats on the back for having sex. Well done twinkle! grin I actually felt proud of myself for dtd 4 days in a row this cycle.
I've gone off the low carb idea btw. I nearly bit DP's head off when he got back from work yesterday so I ate a Curly Wurly and felt much better.
I'm impatient too fatas I can never wait until AF, I don't know how everyone else does it. Good luck with the poas time!. smile
I'm beginning to think that I'm the only person who doesn't ever spot. I can't think of one time that's happened to me. I knew I was weird.

SunshineOutdoors Fri 04-Jan-13 08:38:15

I never spot either, you're not weird! Or I am too...

twinklestar2 Fri 04-Jan-13 09:20:16

I never spot either.

fatasbutter Fri 04-Jan-13 09:43:16

No I think I'm strange because I do spot!! Didn't really happen before the mmc much but since then it has gone crazy so went to the GP who had a ferret around and did a few bits and bobs and said there weren't any things to worry about - of course it's almost a year since the mmc so when it's been a year ill be back to the GP for a referral for proper prodding and poking sad (note 'when' not 'if') - feeling a bit despondent today due to spotting starting - what's so annoying is that it's still 4 days at least until I can get to cd1!! I hate TTC today! angry

Thingymajigs Fri 04-Jan-13 10:20:50

That must be annoying if you know AF is definitely on its way but you've still got to wait. Try not to give up hope yet fatas Hope you feel better soon.

WhenSheWasBadSheWasHopeful Fri 04-Jan-13 11:32:09

Sorry about the spotting fatas I get spotting too and did before I had my dd.

Cd 14 today, negative opk but quite a lot of ewcm. Is there any chance it is left over from dtd on Wed night? (Sorry pretty yucky question but I know you girls can take it).

RedRobin1 Fri 04-Jan-13 12:42:54

thingy I always spot since I came off Microgynon. I was on the pill for a long time, and since I came off it I spot for 1 to 2 days before AF so always know shes coming. Fertility specialist said its nothing to worry about.

fatas fx for you on Sat. Want us all to get BFPs this month.

RedRobin1 Fri 04-Jan-13 12:44:52

when that is quite strange, but no there shouldnt be any leftovers from Wed night. Mine pretty much clears up after 24hrs of dtd.

But its not uncommon to get EWCM after OV. sometimes that happens too!

twinklestar2 Fri 04-Jan-13 13:05:55

I think u should dtd when! I don't think it's leftovers.

Fx for you fatas

tedmundo Fri 04-Jan-13 16:56:13

Hi ladies, yes I still lurk in a stalkerish kinda way! I just spent so long on here with you all and still feel invested in those BFPs.

littlemiss .. I will join the graduates thread, great idea.

And winkle is absolutely right .. tinkling did it for me (but I had to order DH from the room else it would have been far too sordid for my delicate nerves!).

fatasbutter Fri 04-Jan-13 19:51:37

Hi ted!

Well I'm sorry to ruin the good New Years luck but I'm out! Lots of bleeding this evening so the witch must have come early sad but at least it's fairly obvious! Will have to wait a couple of days to see if it stops again so I can tell exactly when cd1 is but nevertheless good luck to the next POAS-ers x wink

twinklestar2 Fri 04-Jan-13 20:22:30

Hello ted!

Sorry she got you fatas sad

Still lurking here too ted!

Sorry she got you fatas sad

Kittenkatzen Fri 04-Jan-13 21:22:03

Boo to the witch getting you fatas sad

WhenSheWasBadSheWasHopeful Fri 04-Jan-13 21:33:09

Oh boo. Sorry about af fatas, at least you didn't have to wait too long (small comfort I know).

Waves at ted

Am going to try and dtd tonight but I feel crap, I have a sore throat and look as sexually alluring as a Sid the Sloth.

WhenSheWasBadSheWasHopeful Fri 04-Jan-13 21:56:25

Oh God oh god oh god. Just massively embarrassed myself.

Dh was playing computer games in the front room. I tried to seduce him (dh doesn't respond well to ov info prefers to imagine I have suddenly found him irresistible (the idiot)).

Just walked in and told him I want him to have sex with me tonight (but waaay more explicit than that). Dh looked shocked and alarmed. He had his Bluetooth ear piece on and was playing online football with his best mate.

His best mate is currently pissing himself laughing. Crap no sex for me then.

twinklestar2 Fri 04-Jan-13 22:16:38

Hilarious!!

fatasbutter Fri 04-Jan-13 22:27:19

gringringrin That definitely trumps my train toilet debacle!!! Nice one!!

WhenSheWasBadSheWasHopeful Fri 04-Jan-13 22:45:11

Glad I could amuse you ladies. What the hell is dh up to though, bloody video games and bluetoothing his friend. It's like I'm living with a 17 year old boy (but without the same sex drive - sigh).

RedRobin1 Sat 05-Jan-13 00:20:28

Lol I am grinning and laughing my arse off when hahaha that's got to be funniest story so far! How explicit? Do share wink

Sorry she got you fatas. I am still waiting for AF to finish.

twinklestar2 Sat 05-Jan-13 01:33:31

Managed another dtd, that's 3 days in a row now.

WhenSheWasBadSheWasHopeful Sat 05-Jan-13 08:01:45

I'm not sure i should say, I might get banned from mn (remembers kick - although that was a different issue).

Opk is v positive today and dh arrived in bed last night smiling and said "so do you still want to do x, y & z to me?). So we dtd grin.

I think his best friend thinks his is some kind of stud to keep me so I ferreted after 13 years.

WhenSheWasBadSheWasHopeful Sat 05-Jan-13 08:03:21

So I ferreted = interested. Bloody bloody iPhone

Oh when that's so funny gringringrin
My dh does exactly the same thing and I hear him talking like a teenager to friends online I have to remind myself he's not 12 sometimes
He probably thinks its the best thing ever as his mates will now think after all this time in a marriage he's the luckiest buggar in the world, win win really!!

Dtd before + ov definatly the best time, it's a good omen and fancy the story to tell grand kids ha ha

WhenSheWasBadSheWasHopeful Sat 05-Jan-13 08:39:32

This is the same friend who back in May / June phoned twice and knocked on the door in the middle of dtd. He really isn't helping matters.

Thingymajigs Sat 05-Jan-13 08:57:32

Haha that's brilliant when. grin I know what it's like to have a man-child for a partner although as I have 2 boys who are 12 and 9 he is the ideal partner for me. Besides, I take myself too seriously so it's nice to have that balance. My partner is under no delusions that I suddenly find him irresistible though, he knows my chart too well.

weechops Sat 05-Jan-13 09:06:48

When that is hilarious! Glad your dh still took you up on your offer though smile

Grannyapple Sat 05-Jan-13 10:02:14

Hi Ladies...delurking. Was on here for a few months, got BFP in nov...now 11+4 & feeling like normal again...nuchal scan next Friday...can't come quick enough!

Huge congrats to weechops & kitten grin

And when your seduction story is hilarious....but at least you got your wicked way grin grin grin

Lots of 2013 baby dust to everyone...this thread keeps me sane & is too too funny with all the stories!

fatasbutter Sat 05-Jan-13 11:07:35

Hi granny! Welcome to the madhouse!

Well girls I am quite envy of all your compliant DH's - feeling quite depressed today at the thought of being still on here while you all have babies sad. My DH has a criminally low sex drive so as well as trying to work and look after a toddler, I have to try and stealth seduce him (doesn't want the pressure of ttc/ov) and most of the time I get shot down - it does wonders for a girls self-esteem!! So I struggle to dtd more than 1-3 times at all in a month - it is very sad sad and I could never tell anyone that in RL as I find it a bit humiliating (even though I know he has always had a lower sex drive than me it has been worse since the mmc) - oh woe is me!! Sorry if I have depressed anyone but I could dare tell anyone else!! blush

Thingymajigs Sat 05-Jan-13 12:14:15

Try not to worry fatas, this is much more common than you'd ever imagine. If we relied on my DP's sex drive then we'd only be dtd 2 or 3 times a month which is why I went for charting, ovulation sticks and temping quite early on. He used to also struggle with the pressure but is much better lately and desperately wants his own child so he puts in the work. Could you discuss this with him or would that put him off more? Sorry to hear AF arrived. sad

twinklestar2 Sat 05-Jan-13 12:17:28

Hey granny, I remember you! <waves>. Yeah we're still here sad

Still chuckling at your story when, glad you managed to dtd.

Fatas - don't be [hgreen] or [hsad], I've been on this thread for ages and always feel like I'll be the last one here to turn the light out. You already have one child so you will def have another, you just need to get the timing right.

Cd13 here. Weird to think that OV is over according to the CBFM. Going to keep going every 2-3 days tho just in case. My New Years resolution is to get a BFP, I'll fuck every day if I have to!!!!!!!!!

MonthlyWishesCameAndWent Sat 05-Jan-13 12:19:35

I'm a bit behind on the thread, catching up from a few days ago I used the pregnancy care conception ones and before mc used the pregnancy re max. I agree that I can't go back to using TESCO own brand as used them before and only gots pregnant on the expensive ones, must be the only products they don't have to advertise!

twinklestar2 Sat 05-Jan-13 12:21:14

The weird things we do hey monthly?! Just in case they might affect us getting pregnant!

twinklestar2 Sat 05-Jan-13 12:21:49

Pressed send too soon but I was going to add I don't believe in karma, fate or god really apart from when it comes to ttc!

WhenSheWasBadSheWasHopeful Sat 05-Jan-13 13:50:14

twinkle I think we are ovulating at the same time. How exciting. I am meant to test early to get the progesterone from my research midwife.

fatasbutter Sat 05-Jan-13 19:59:59

Thanks thingy and winkle - you're right tho I do have one already and even if I can't have another I still feel like the luckiest person in the world to have my gorgeous boy!

When girls live together their cycles get in sync with each other - is that what's happening here?! Synchronised ovulation?!! wink

Kittenkatzen Sat 05-Jan-13 21:02:09

gringringrin laughing here at your story when definitely sounds like something I'd do! Hope you don't bump into that particular mate any time soon!

Hope you're all having a lovely weekend girls

twinklestar2 Sat 05-Jan-13 22:47:45

Will be doing my 4th dtd in a row tonight! Looking forward to a rest tomorrow :D

WhenSheWasBadSheWasHopeful Sun 06-Jan-13 15:07:03

Blimy twinkle I think your shagging has killed the thread. Opk sticks have gone negative today. We only dtd on Wed and Friday, there is no hope tonight. I am feeling v v ill and dh is just as bad sad.

fatasbutter Sun 06-Jan-13 15:18:43

Yeah wink (like your new nickname?!) you've driven us away with envyenvy - just kidding! wink

What's up when? Have you caught manflu from your DH?! wink

WhenSheWasBadSheWasHopeful Sun 06-Jan-13 15:37:37

It's just a cold but I'm so full of snot it's disgusting. Bizarrely in this house I'm normally the one who gets man flu dh is quite brave.

fatasbutter Sun 06-Jan-13 16:13:10

Ah bless him! We give men such a hard time don't we?! Go and take some strong drugs and a hot chocolate (or lemsip?!) and put your feet up! X

twinklestar2 Sun 06-Jan-13 17:25:55

Haha my shagfest isn't over just yet! Gonna keep going for a couple of weeks just in case. I told you I'd fuck every day if I had to! I'm gonna get my BFP this year!

RedRobin1 Sun 06-Jan-13 17:32:54

grin Good going winkle I'm planning to join you in that from next week!

Love winkles moto
" I ll fuck evey day of I have too" should be the next thread title!!
You definatly put me to shame, when trying for dd we had just got to the point of doing it about twice around ov blush
This time it was every other day at fertile time so around 5/6 times but once that opk went to negative it was once more for good luck then see you in 2 weeks ha ha

twinklestar2 Sun 06-Jan-13 22:24:03

grin

Def think that's a good title for the next thread, just hope I'm not on it smile

Kitty, in all the months I have been TTC I have tried every combination of DTD! Waiting till I ov, dtd eod around fertile period, every day around fertile period, eod throughout the month... I'm tired, man! We usually stop in the 2 weeks after OV time but it's my new years resolution to make an effort to dtd all month just in case. Its been really nice actually this month smile I could go again tonight even though I dont have to!

Does anyone else (I mean those still TTC) feel a lot more relaxed now its January? Feels like we have the whole year to get pregnant... obvs hope it doesnt take that long, but does anyone feel it too?

RedRobin1 Sun 06-Jan-13 22:36:06

I totally feel it. Haven't thought about becoming pregnant obsessively. The pressure seems to be off - doesn't feel like a race as I have accepted that my friends will all have their little ones in a few weeks and then I can have my moment when I get a bfp.

DH is totally relaxed too. We've also tried every combination of dtd over the last 8 months. Just going take it as it comes. Fx winkle, fatas,when, thingy and all of us don't have to wait too long now.

twinklestar2 Sun 06-Jan-13 22:43:21

I said to OH today I felt positive and I think the fact that we are not drinking or smoking and eating well, etc, makes me feel like we are doing something positive towards getting pregnant.

It better fucking work

Thingymajigs Mon 07-Jan-13 07:12:54

I love the thread title idea! I actually laughed when I read that and had to explain it to DP. I think he realises that we all talk about our sex lives now.
Yeah I feel slightly less pressure too but as we dtd every day my hopes are a bit too high. Also got blood test results this Friday to give me something else to focus on. New Year new start though. We will all get BFP's this year. smile

twinklestar2 Mon 07-Jan-13 08:48:06

Red - I thought a lot about what you said about accepting your friends are having their babies and that when you get your BFP that will be your time. So I msgd my friends who just announced they are pregnant - the ones who got married 3 months ago - and congratulated them.

Our time will come.

RedRobin1 Mon 07-Jan-13 12:51:52

Yes winkle our time will come. I just want to be happy this year baby or no baby. I will enjoy playing with my friends little ones for now. But I know I will one day have my own.

Planning hols with DH for this year. Exciting stuff smile

Thingymajigs Mon 07-Jan-13 14:05:47

Oh where are you going red? We are looking at a short break to Cornwall this summer which my 9 year old is very excited about. My 12 year old is a little less excited about the prospect of no wifi for 7 days though.

RedRobin1 Mon 07-Jan-13 17:17:31

I was looking at Tenerife - somewhere in the sun, by the pool, with a huge long island ice tea. smile

I have always wanted to go to Cornwall too, but never made it.

fatasbutter Mon 07-Jan-13 18:16:00

Oh that sounds wonderful red - you're giving me good ideas for my hols! Keep em coming!wink

Thingymajigs Mon 07-Jan-13 18:19:31

That sounds lovely. smile My friend has just come back from Lanzarote and she loved it which is a lot coming from her as she holidays abroad several times a year.
It's nice planning holidays, looking ahead to something more than the next part of my cycle. Tricky booking when you think it's possible that we could all be heavily pregnant though. Fingers firmly crossed.

Kittenkatzen Mon 07-Jan-13 18:42:49

<Delurks>

I adore Lanzarote! We go most years as DH has family living out there. Very happy to recommend areas etc if anyone wants smile

red I went to Cornwall for the first time in May last year, can recommend a lovely campsite if you're that way inclined!

twinklestar2 Mon 07-Jan-13 19:42:40

Red I just read on the other thread that your tubes got the all clear - excellent news.

<delurks> yay on the clear tubes red!!!

Went to Lanzarote with DH and DS on a teletext type holiday in Feb last year. Weather was pretty nice (tho obvs not roasting hot at that time of year), island was beautiful, people so friendly, beaches gorgeous. Much nicer than Tenerife (i thought anyway). Went to Santorini the year before with easyjet flights straight there - would really recommend there too, slightly less touristy than Canaries, food gorgeous, island so beautiful out of this world.

Extremely jealous of anyone booking holidays!! We'll be sticking close to home this year - DS a bad age to take on the plane (plus we have to pay for him now!), nervous about travelling being pg and also...money...sigh. No sunshine til at least 2014! hate Belfast

RedRobin1 Mon 07-Jan-13 22:04:28

Thanks yes I got the all clear on tubes. Both the doctor and nurse were amazed at how quickly the die passed through both tubes.

They confirmed I had polycystic ovaries as I asked them to check after the previous scan done by a trainee nurse. The specialist said nothing to worry about as its mild and as long as I get regular periods and confirmed OV on the sticks it's all good.

So just going to see how ttc goes now. Oooo you girls are making me sway towards lanzarote! Will check it out with DH!

Kitten - Camping sounds fab but I have a very non-outdoorsy DH! He's such a wimp when it comes to flies and mosquitoes!

twinklestar2 Mon 07-Jan-13 23:12:38

Glad the pcos is mild, red.

Had yesterday off dtd but will be going again tonight. That'll be the 5th time this month and its only the 7th Jan!!

Kittenkatzen Tue 08-Jan-13 07:27:29

Woopwoop to red's clear tubes and mild pcos gringrin

littlemiss I have a friend who honeymooned on santorini, it looks beautiful, would love to go.

<daydreams>

red - don't want to be a pain but as a longterm and also fairly mild pcos-er, i feel obligated to point out that pcos ladies can't really use OPKs reliably: pcos.about.com/od/infertility/qt/OPK.htm
I know the dr said otherwise and it's not to say you can't use OPKs, just that the additional weird hormone surges pcos occasionally creates can give you false positives from time to time and I'd hate to think you'd get a + OPK , dtd loads for a couple of days and then think you're covered for the month when that might have been a false result iykwim? Most important thing is clear tubes tho! But I really recommend checking out Zita West - got me upduffed three times now, pcos or not grin

twinkle - wowsers! I'm avoiding dtd til after 12 weeks, feel a bit too pukey anyway and want to err on side of caution. But i have to say after our months of shagathon i am missing it a bit...

Thingymajigs Tue 08-Jan-13 09:15:06

That's great news red. smile
Interesting little I had to give up on OPK's when I realised I had long LH surges and a few days gap between a positive and a temperature rise. I'm fully expecting a diagnosis of mild PCOS too hence an attempt at low-carbing.
How's the morning sickness little?

MonthlyWishesCameAndWent Tue 08-Jan-13 09:45:06

Red I have quite severe PCOS and for some strange reason the oak work for me, have learned to see the pattern. Sometimes it looks like they are going to be positive, but the band isn't darker than the control, I get a lot of the band showing but it only gets properly darker than the control once a cycle, which co-insides with other stuff too iykwim.

We're going on a holiday with the in-laws to Spain for a week as they're going out for 4 weeks, not sure how relaxing a holiday with the in-laws will be!

RedRobin1 Tue 08-Jan-13 10:02:37

Yes I doubted the OPKs when I first heard pcos but unlike severe pcos my OPKs are positive only once a month for 24hours or 48hrs and they coincide with temperature rises and I have got negative OPKs for the the rest of the month(did opks once from cd7 to cd25) So I guess my lh surges are normal.

Also had blood tests to check lh:fsh ratio and they look normal. So that's why the consultant said to carry on using opk. They will start me on clomid after April. By then we'd be ttcing for a whole year. So will see how it goes till then.

red - Clomid is supposed to be fab, but hopefully you'll get your BFP before April smile Every time I got referred to fertility clinic, I would get letter with me appointment date for a couple of months down the line and I'd start reading up about Clomid and Metformin and then about 2 or 3 weeks later suddenly get a bfp!!

thingy - sickness is still pretty bad, signed off work and can't really look after DS on my own at the minute, but with DS it was gone by about week 13 and I'm 9+3 now so only a few weeks left, and the cyclazine tablets i'm taking have started to kick in a bit so as long as i get plenty of rest i can keep stuff down now, tho it'll be a while before i can face anything like a full meal again! I never tried OPKs cos so many pcos ladies put me off using them, but i really agree with the Zita West/NHS method of dtd every 2-3 days throughout whole cycle, with a couple of extra times thrown in when you see ewcm. Can't hurt! But hard to sustain...

RedRobin1 Tue 08-Jan-13 11:08:09

Hahaha littlemiss that's a good clomid story grin hope that works for us too! Hope the morning sickness reduces soon! Not long to go till your 12w scan!

Saw a couple of fb who look pregnant in their new photo albums. Their bellies are sticking out. God! Have I become one of those people who is now pre-guessing pregnancy announcements by staring at bellies!

Thingymajigs Tue 08-Jan-13 12:06:16

You must be exhausted little. Hopefully the sickness settles down soon and you can enjoy this pregnancy a bit more.
I keep hearing about Zita West so I'll check that out. I'll try anything at this stage.
red, they've probably still got some extra tummy weight from Christmas, that's all. smile

twinklestar2 Tue 08-Jan-13 12:07:35

Red I'm terrible. Whenever I read a news story about someone with kids I obsessively look at how old the kid is and then how old the mum is and compare my age to theirs. TTC has driven me mad.

Dtd last night and all this month have ensured the legs have gone in the air with bum under pillow for at least 20 minutes.

CD16 here...

RedRobin1 Tue 08-Jan-13 13:32:21

Winkle you have done so well this month! Really hope this is the month for you.

Yesterday I saw a newly married couple and the woman declined alcohol as she was on a 'detox' diet. All I could think is "Bloody hell shes pregnant as well!" I just feel so arrrrghhh. My other friends belly looks so round on fb, and shes really petite so I think she is preggers too hmm. Thing is nearly every woman in my class in school is now popping children out. I guess I need to not open fb at all.

Seriously what's becoming of us winkle

twinklestar2 Tue 08-Jan-13 16:16:45

I went to sleep at 1am last night cause we went to bed late (watching OBEM!) and then I had to stick the old legs on the air - knackered! The dtd was functional shall we say!!

Red, ttc has driven us bonkers. That's all I can say!

WhenSheWasBadSheWasHopeful Tue 08-Jan-13 16:44:45

red hope you get that BFP before April (I hope we all do).

I know what you mean about assuming people are pregnant when they don't drink. I keep reminding myself its January lots of people don't drink this month.

twinklestar2 Tue 08-Jan-13 18:47:56

Im not drinking and I'm not pregnant sad

twinklestar2 Tue 08-Jan-13 23:40:55

Day off dtd thank god

Read a stat yesterday: if you dtd once in a month you have a 3% chance if getting pregnant. If you dtd 20 times in a month you have a 40% chance.

5 down, 15 to go....?!

Thingymajigs Wed 09-Jan-13 07:56:51

Now that sounds like dedication twinkle. We managed 4 days in a row this month and that was definitely enough for me. I so hope this pays off for you.
I'm on 10dpo and I'm not feeling it this month. Temps aren't that high, although none of my other higher temp cycles resulted in a pregnancy anyway. We dtd perfectly so there's a chance but I'm preparing for AF on Monday. Where is everyone else at in their cycle?

SunshineOutdoors Wed 09-Jan-13 07:57:53

red I'm glad tests have been looking good. Fwiw one of my friends ttc for 5 years and then got pregnant on first lot of clomid. She had dd same time as me (summer 2011) and is now due her second in June, with no intervention second time around. So I think it's a good drug smile

SunshineOutdoors Wed 09-Jan-13 07:59:15

twinkle you're doing great! And thingy I've got my fingers and toes crossed for you...

RedRobin1 Wed 09-Jan-13 13:17:35

Fx thingy she stays away... Winkle the max DH and I have managed is 8 times a month. And that was at a push! So you are doing really well to keep going. Out of curiosity I just had a look at my prev cycles, and the month we had the CP was when we dtd 6 times in a SMEP pattern (how weird! I didnt even know about SMEP back then)

I don't think we are going manage much dtd as I am on CD10 with mild spotting from Hycosy, so not sure if we can dtd. I am not sore at all, just want the spotting to stop before we start shagging.

Another thing the consultant said to me is that my blood report showed 'subclinical hypothyroid' basically my TSH (thyroid level) is 3.7 which is normal for most women, but not for ones who are TTC. During TTC your levels should be 2.5 to avoid miscarriage. So I have to go on some pills to bring it down.

Sorry for such a long post - but brains a bit of a muddle today and feeling wee bit emotional. Just want to fucking get pregnant! Arrrgh! Why is this so hard for some of us?!

thingy - also got fx for you!

Will be lurking for updates... Not such a good news day over on grads thread so keep your fx for wee xx

weechops Wed 09-Jan-13 15:28:54

Hey just popping in to say I'm sadly having a mc sad started bleeding yesterday and the baby came away today so just a waiting game til it stops. Totally gutted sad

Thanks for thinking of me littlemiss.

Will be lurking for a while then trying again soon.

resipsa Wed 09-Jan-13 15:47:24

wee so sorry sad for you. We're here to help you through.

twinklestar2 Wed 09-Jan-13 16:05:10

I am so so sorry wee sad

fatasbutter Wed 09-Jan-13 16:20:50

Ah wee I'm so sorry sad - thinking of you xxx

Thingymajigs Wed 09-Jan-13 18:21:12

I'm so sorry weechops. sad

WhenSheWasBadSheWasHopeful Wed 09-Jan-13 18:54:03

On no wee I'm so so sorry. sad

SunshineOutdoors Wed 09-Jan-13 19:06:27

weechops as I said on the other thread we're all here for you to talk to. Thinking of you and wishing you support and comfort <hugs>

fatasbutter Wed 09-Jan-13 21:12:57

I second what the others said wee it is so difficult and men deal with it all so differently so feel free to vent on here thanksthanksthanks

How is everyone doing otherwise? I have had a rather odd day! Is anyone about or have you all snuck off to bed?!

weechops Wed 09-Jan-13 21:38:51

Thanks its really nice to know I can let it out here. Dh is totally amazing but poor guy can't possibly understand.

Fatas what's happened today then? Am up for a bit since dh is doing blokey stuff to the sky box just now!

fatasbutter Wed 09-Jan-13 21:45:30

Well, I had bleeding over the weekend so I thought it was my pre-af spotting but as soon as Monday came it stopped so I did a test and got bfn of course and so thought that was that. But today there is still no bleeding and am having odd little twinges that don't really feel like af. And this evening my food tasted really funny too. Dh thought I was going mad when I kept making him eat my lovely dinner!! Anyway, I'm not sure what to think any more. I'm afraid to do a test because I don't want another bfn and yet afraid of a bfp because of having bleeding and funny pains, and of course having had a mmc in march too...
Sorry for the waffle, and sorry to go on about it while you're feeling so horrid, too wee - just tell me to stop being silly!!

weechops Wed 09-Jan-13 21:51:11

Noooo you're not being silly! So when is AF due? Things tasting funny is a good symptom. Do thou have a test in the house you could maybe do in the morning?

weechops Wed 09-Jan-13 21:51:58

You, not thou! Bloody tablet I'm not Shakespearean!

twinklestar2 Wed 09-Jan-13 21:56:08

That sounds promising fatas!

Will be dtd my 6th dtd of the year later, wish me luck lol

Watching OBEM sad

fatasbutter Wed 09-Jan-13 21:56:52

Lol! I actually thought you meant thou! Thought thou werest being humorous (admittedly unexpectedly)

Yes I have a digi one (never done one before! Always used the super drug pink line ones. Will see if I have the nerve by morning time...

fatasbutter Wed 09-Jan-13 21:57:58

Plus the blood at the weekend was bright red. And my back hurts and I keep having little shabby pains - surely that can't all be promising even if there is a bfp

fatasbutter Wed 09-Jan-13 21:58:32

Oops! Stabby not shabby!! Lol!

fatasbutter Wed 09-Jan-13 21:59:01

Good luck winklewink

weechops Wed 09-Jan-13 22:04:36

Good luck winkle!

Fatas you'll only be torturing yourself anyway, so I think you should test in the morning then come here for hand holding, whatever the outcome. Fx for bfp tho!

twinklestar2 Wed 09-Jan-13 22:22:55

I thought I was strong enough to watch OBEM but I've just spent the last 10 minutes crying. OH says I need to stop thinking about it and its all I'm talking about recently. I can't help it, I just want so badly for it to be me. Is that too much to ask? What have I done wrong to deserve this?

Every day I just feel pain and sadness sad

I don't want to dtd later, I'll have to put it off to tomorrow.

I've been doing this for 17 months. I should be planning on having my second not still trying for my first.

fatasbutter Wed 09-Jan-13 22:23:39

Ok. That's the plan then. POAS in the morning unless these funny pains come to something overnight.
Til the morning then...
Sleep well all x

fatasbutter Wed 09-Jan-13 22:26:04

Oh no! X post winkle sorry

You haven't done anything wrong - the world can be so cruel, and often to the loveliest of people. You certainly don't deserve it sad

weechops Wed 09-Jan-13 22:29:51

Oh winkle I feel so sad for you too. You've done nothing wrong! There's nothing I can say that'll make you feel any better but just know that we are all here for you, any time, to talk to. When you want it so badly, of course it's all you'll think and talk about. That's why we're here because we feel the same. And we will never get tired of hearing how you feel, so keep talking. Lots of love xx

RedRobin1 Wed 09-Jan-13 23:01:42

I just checked in to have a read and I am so sorry for what you've had to go through wee men don't really feel it as their body doesn't feel any different. For women it's a physical connection that feels empty. And don't blame yourself. I did the same after my cp as I stretched to close the curtain and jumped from a stool and felt a spasm and I bled two days later thinking that's what caused it confused but its just a horrible thing that we have no control over. Big hug to you thanks

winkle I feel your pain. I have so many thoughts every day about things I'd like to do when I get pregnant that I have started keeping a diary at work. A private word document with a collection of ideas that I have when I finally get a bfp. It helps me to feel excited about the ttc process and just cheers me up slightly. I am a hopeless dreamer and ttc isn't going to stop me from dreaming. So when I'm down I have a read of it and think it will happen one day and I will be able to do all these things one day when I become a mum!

twinklestar2 Wed 09-Jan-13 23:07:02

Thanks girls for always being there and being so kind.

Red - that's such a good idea. Would you mind if I stole it? I've often thought about writing a blog about ttc but its such a taboo to say you're TTC. I have a very good friend I can talk to but there's only so much you can lean on someone.

And I'm ashamed to say that I've broken my new year resolution and I've had a couple of cigarettes. blush

twinklestar2 Wed 09-Jan-13 23:20:37

Good luck for the morning fatas x

RedRobin1 Wed 09-Jan-13 23:35:53

Feel free to steal it wink I find it difficult to talk to many of my friends because one half of my friends are pregnant, the other half are mums, and another bunch are not even thinking abt families. So unless you have someone going through ttc at the same time as you I don't think people understand.

What disappointed me the most was my female friends who have had a long one or two year struggle to ttc - I find these are the ones who don't really understand even though they know we are struggling to ttc! I always tell DH I will never forget this time and how I felt and remember it when someone else is going through this. I think I expect these women to say the right things but a lot of them have bumps right now so they are all understandably ecstatic and occupied with their own dreams hmm

fatasbutter Thu 10-Jan-13 07:40:23

Holy f**k

BFP

<complete shock>

resipsa Thu 10-Jan-13 07:47:50

So fatas any news?

resipsa Thu 10-Jan-13 07:49:09

Yay! You see, you knew! Keep calm and enjoy.
Congrats! How many DPO are you?