Trying to conceive after mc? Pregnant after MC and seeking somewhere safe to hide? Recently graduated from the mosh pit? Come on down to the mosh pit for some serious metalling and cake part 4

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Jollyb Tue 06-Nov-12 18:04:38

I've started the new thread - how exciting!!

I hope this thread will bring lots of BFPs, good scan results and healthy new arrivals.

lotsofcheese Tue 06-Nov-12 19:12:59

Thanks jolly - looking forward to some happy stories too.

JaffaSnaffle Tue 06-Nov-12 19:20:10

Marking place

Marking place.

33+3wks now!

Marking place, too, at 22+4!

marking place - congrats to all who have had happy scans already and good luck for those with the scans coming up this week! I lost track of who was doing what when moving between threads....

lurcherlover Tue 06-Nov-12 23:12:35

Marking place on the shiny new thread grin

Definitely feeling little nudges from my bub now! It's so reassuring. Am metalling tonight though as we're finally having a new kitchen done (replacing the falling-to-bits one that dates from 1978, I kid you not!) and today they installed the new sink - I didn't realise but whatever they used to fix it in is obviously full of solvents and the whole house stinks. That can't be good for baby...or poor DS for that matter sad Will escape out of the house with him tomorrow but nothing we can do about the fumes tonight.

Dorita75 Wed 07-Nov-12 00:05:39

Hello everyone! Marking my place and got everything crossed for lots of BFPs and bouncing babies!

BraveLilBear Wed 07-Nov-12 10:03:43

Hey ladies! <waves enthusiastically>

Thanks for starting new thread Jolly - fx it brings some special luck for you smile

Ready and waiting for the happy news to arrive... I'm waiting not at all patiently to POAS on the 18th.

Who's scanning/POAS next? Good luck!

wilderumpus Wed 07-Nov-12 11:36:00

oooh new thread, thanks jolly smile

I have my scan tomorrow.... was looking forward to it but had a teeny smidge of pink blood the other night and it has put me back in my skeptical box again. boo to that. Am 12 weeks something - am sure they will change the date tomorrow tho (well, that would be the least worst outcome!)

BUT we have lovely 2ww-ers! ah, the excitement!

Jollyb Wed 07-Nov-12 17:40:46

brave I'll be testing around then too.

Good luck for tomorrow wilde Hoping the spotting has settled - remember it's very very common.

BraveLilBear Wed 07-Nov-12 17:46:17

Yay - someone to hold hands with Jolly Are you as impatient as me? Literally don't know how time has forgotten to move hmm

Good luck for tomorrow Wilde fingers crossed everything will be back to boring old normal. And hey, changing due dates is at least a good distraction (if you like maths and geekiness as much as I do, anyway lol)

Thinking of you!

Jollyb Wed 07-Nov-12 18:59:42

I am v impatient Brave but after 2 very early miscarriages am trying to be good and hold out until day AF due. My ideal scenario would be to do a clearblue digi and get 2-3 weeks (instead of the crappy 1-2 weeks I struggled to get past last time).

I have a stock of Internet cheapies plus FRERs so bet I cave in before then! Any symptoms yetwink

Hi everyone. Good luck for tomorrow Wilde. I saw a very pregnant woman at the sandwich shop today and felt a bit sad/upset that it wasn't me yet. I haven't really been too worried about other people being pregnant, even if it does seem that everyone else in the world is getting pregnant all the time. However today I did have that feeling. I wonder if it is partly because it was almost a year ago that I got pregnant, having tried for a year before that, or if it is because DH is away this week (which really should be THE week for dtd) and so I know there isn't really any 2ww this month. I know that I am very lucky in that I already have DD, but if she is going to be the only one I think I can be happy with that, but I'd just like to know so that I can just get on with my life. Much as I keep saying, I'll just get on with it I don't all the time there is a chance if that makes sense...

Sorry for the self-pitying ramble. I'll be fine tomorrow no doubt!

lotsofcheese Wed 07-Nov-12 20:11:14

I've got my 12 week scan tomorrow too. Having a hormonal day & don't even know how I feel about it.

In the last few days I've admitted to myself how scared I am about this pregnancy (had severe, early PE in 1st pregnancy - DS & I almost died & he was in NICU for 3 months). There is a reasonable possibility it could happen again this time.

I suppose reality is hitting & I'm shitting myself.

ImAbbs Wed 07-Nov-12 20:27:45

Marking my place. What a nice place to share experiences.

lurcherlover Wed 07-Nov-12 21:21:53

Good luck to wilde and cheese for tomorrow - looking forward to hearing two positive scan stories. cheese, does having had PE once mean it is more likely to recur? Is there anything they can do to prevent it? It must be very worrying for you.

Hoping time goes quickly for those on the 2ww....I am on a 3ww myself as my 20wk scan is in three weeks. Absolutely dreading it, but at the same time looking forward to it as a key milestone to get through.

Nearly Friday everyone smile

Dorita75 Wed 07-Nov-12 21:34:19

Feels like we're always waiting for something...POAS, scans, good luck to everyone and especially wilde and cheese with your scans tomorrow and lurcher for your 3ww

Mrshp you're allowed to feel down and come on here brew you never know when something's going to hit. I was fine for what would have been my due date, AF came the next day, also fine, then the following day had to leave work early as I couldn't stop crying! You just have to go with the ups and downs don't you really? and try and remember it's okay to feel that way. You're probably affected by this week's lack of action but don't worry, you'll be back in the saddle next month and the musketeers will go on again!

littlebear I'm like jollyb now, trying not to POAS until AF is a day late, just because I can still have hope until then whereas an early negative a few days before ends the hope for that month...I'm due some time next week I think (had 29 and a 19 day cycle last 2 months so who knows!) so will join the hold handing please smile

Jollyb Wed 07-Nov-12 21:39:58

Yes good luck to the 'scannees'!

MrsHP it's totally normal to have days/weeks like that. 10 days ago when I found out a close friend was pregnant I felt awful. I lay in bed and wailed. I think my feelings were intensified because it coincided with an anniversary (12 months TTC).

I'm now feeling much more positive about TTC again. I even managed to have dinner with this pregnant friend yesterday and was genuinely excited for her.

Hope you feel better soon and you aren't missing your DH too much.

As an aside - watching a reality show about an STD clinic. Why on earth would you agree to be on this?!!

oo00PIXIE00oo Wed 07-Nov-12 21:40:21

Big hugs MrsH - I had a crying day on Sunday can down with the flu and found out friend is due a couple of days before my edd for the 2nd MMC x

I'm in the 2ww AF due 13th

Leaves to carry on with the ironing - sharing the delights of the new mint leaf and chocolate ice cream from Haagen Dazs smile

Jollyb Wed 07-Nov-12 21:43:09

dorita - crossed post with you. Hello and hope you're feeling perky.

Jollyb Wed 07-Nov-12 21:47:32

Goodness I keep missing posts and now feel very rude. lurcher We'll be here to get you through the next 3 weeks. won't be long til you'll be having lots of lovely kicks and so don't need to rely on scans for reassurance.

pixie fingers crossed for you too x

lurcherlover Wed 07-Nov-12 22:03:05

Thanks jolly. I have been feeling little kicks intermittently for about a week now, which surprised me - with DS I didn't feel anything until 19 weeks, and I know they say you feel second babies sooner but I was expecting it to be around the 17-week mark, but I definitely felt something at 15+6 and have had lots since. It's fantastic, and it's obviously such a relief to know that bubs is alive in there - but I won't relax until I know the anomaly scan is done and that there are no visible health problems, at this stage anyway.

Really thinking of you and all the others on the 2ww - Dorita, you're so right, we're always waiting for something. And I don't know what's worse really - waiting to POAS, waiting for scans, waiting for kicks, waiting for the get over one hurdle, and think "by the time X has happened I'll be able to relax", and then the next hurdle looms and of course you can't.

Jolly totally agree about that STD show! How desperate do you have to be to go on TV??

BraveLilBear Thu 08-Nov-12 07:37:07

Lol all this waiting. No wonder mothers have the patience of a saint in films, anyway

Good luck wilde and cheese for today, and we're all in for your 3ww lurcher

Feel free to rant MrsHP, so many of us know that feeling even if it's not today.

As for 2ww... Like jolly and dorita I'm a resolute ' wait til after AF due kinda gal, too'... Being a stubborn taurus sometimes has it's upside! I, too, would love a 2-3 week rather than the 1-2 s I got last time.

Hoping I'll get distracted by some other BFPs between now and the 18th grin

cogitosum Thu 08-Nov-12 07:41:57

Hello I hope it's ok to join. I had mmc at 9 weeks in June. I got a bfp today but really scared as I drank at the weekend after getting a bfn (just started a thread about it)

BraveLilBear Thu 08-Nov-12 07:42:04

Oh pixie missed you out, sorry! Only 5 days til the 13th... will you make it or break early do you think?

Hi to everyone else I missed!

pebspop Thu 08-Nov-12 09:17:37

Welcome cogito don;t worry about the drinking. it will be fine. the baby looks after itself for the first few weeks so it won't affect it. tbh i still have a glass of red now and again to cover up my pg.

good luck to wilde and cheese today.

Good luck to all the ttc-ers. can't wait to see another batch of bfps on here!

Got a scan tomorrow. i am 19 weeks - arrrghhhh.... hoping everything is fine but as i don't think i have felt any movement yet i am still really worried. don't think i will ever go to a scan feeling confident.

BraveLilBear Thu 08-Nov-12 10:36:53

Hi cogito sorry you find yourself here but everyone is very lovely and supportive here smile

<what pebspop said re drinking> I even know friends who were told by midwives to have a drink every now and again if it helps you relax (like once or twice a week)

Plus if you had a BFN before drinking, then the hormone levels and ergo the pregnancy would have been so early on that risks would be even tinier.

Good luck for tomorrow pebs is this the furthest you've been? I'm sure I've read before that it takes longer to feel baby first time round because it's unfamiliar or something or other.

pebspop Thu 08-Nov-12 11:01:33

brave this is kind of the furthest i have been. i did have a mmc at 20 week scan last year and had seen the baby on scan at 16 week (but it was only measuring 15 weeks). i had a scan at 17 weeks this time and i feel like that was the furthest i have seen a baby on scan. really nervous at the moment after what happened last year. i am taking blood thining injections everyday as my placenta was full of blood clots and caused the late mc.

i sometimes feel a fulness in low down in my tummy but not sure if that is the baby or not.

lotsofcheese Thu 08-Nov-12 11:37:00

Thanks for good wishes. 1.5 hours till scan. Shitting myself & convinced it's another mmc.

pebspop Thu 08-Nov-12 12:48:35

I think we all feel like that when we are going to a scan cheese i know i have expected a mmc every scan so far in this pg (and i have had a lot!).

my strategy is to just keeping plodding along from appointment to appointment hoping for the best and fearing the worst.

MumTumWanted Thu 08-Nov-12 15:13:30

Marking place wink

Any scans news yet ladies ?

I'm 17 weeks today and finding it unbelievable hmm . Have 20 week scan on 29th nov and am terrified but in a way hoping that provided I get good news I will start to calm down a little fat chance

lurcher I think u and I have similar dates?

Welcome to the newbies sorry your here but trust me the ladies here are wonderful a real strength smile

Fingers crossed to all the 2wws

And pebs I to am feeling a low down fullness and despite having dd(13) I simply don't know if its movement yet or not - and I'm to scared to mention in rl to anyone in case I've had a mmc and end up looking a right pillock with my 'imaginary' kicks sad

Nearly Friday ladies smile

BraveLilBear Thu 08-Nov-12 15:15:36

No wonder you're on tenterhooks pebs I would be exactly the same. Did the mantra originate here? Maybe it's worth a mention.

'Today I am pregnant.'

Everything crossed for tomo for you.

Any news cheese, wilde? Thinking of you...

pebspop Thu 08-Nov-12 15:36:07

i don't mention the movement in real life either mum tum just in case!

Keep checking for news from the scanees - come on ladies!

lotsofcheese Thu 08-Nov-12 15:42:00

Thanks pebs - you are right!

Just had a good scan at 12+6, neuchal fold was small & nasal bone seen so feeling ok in terms of Down's, despite my advanced age.

I still don't think I really believe I'll have a baby at the end of it, though. Just feels weird.

How did you get on wilder? Hoping all was well.

Jollyb Thu 08-Nov-12 15:58:50

Great news cheese. It does sound like you are on the way to having a baby!

LittleSpade Thu 08-Nov-12 16:02:27

Yay that's great news cheese and pleased that the nuchal fold also looked reasuring.

I hope we hear from wilde soon - Hoping all is well there too.

pebspop Thu 08-Nov-12 16:19:05

good stuff cheese i was 12+6 at mine as well!

maybe it's time for you to believe now - very hard though eh?

BraveLilBear Thu 08-Nov-12 17:42:13

Yay for good news cheese smile

cogitosum Thu 08-Nov-12 17:49:49

Glad the scan went well cheese

tasmaniandevilchaser Thu 08-Nov-12 19:00:50

hello everyone, it's been a long time, I have been hiding out on the ectopic pg thread. I recognise some names, lovely to see you all so far along pebs, state and wilde.

wilde I was prodding my womble area yesterday and even called it my "womble", I was thinking of you!! grin

Hi to everyone else, and congrats to cheese on your 12 wk scan.

I'm 14 wks now allegedly. I still can't be happy about the little bean. I've had 4 scans because of my previous disasters (MMC Nov '11 and ectopic Feb'12) so really it should seem real.

I had my 12 wk scan last Monday and thought finally I can start to relax. Then was promptly hospitalised with pneumonia. Great. I'm back home and on the mend but I am very worried about the baby. I'm seeing the GP tomorrow but I'm tempted by a private scan. I called The Fetal Medicine Centre today and they said that it's better to wait for 16 wks, then they can have a better look at any potential anomalies.

My Granny died this morning, so it feels like just non-stop rubbish news. I feel awful I can't go and be with my Mum but I walked to the post box (about 50m) yesterday and fell asleep on the sofa when I got back, I was so exhausted. There's no way I can do 90 mins on public transport, changing and waiting around in the cold.

Ok moan over! Hope everyone has lots of good luck and BFPs and happy scans!

wilderumpus Thu 08-Nov-12 19:15:43

hehe womble tas

all fab on the scan, baby measuring ahead of dates at 13+2 which is lovely, wriggly little thing and as healthy as you can know at this stage. we have come out of the closet to family and friends and it feels wonderful to hear the congrats. Am hoping I will feel kicks soon and then can start to enjoy being pg. After three good scans i have to let myself relax into it soon. I am going to make a baby blanket as soon as I get the materials, start to bond a bit smile

sorry for me, me, me just a quickie to blather on.

pebs good luck tomorrow, <waves at tas' womble> hope you ok chuck, sounds like you've had a lot of bad luck, cheese am so happy your scan was good too smile we are so fortunate. best get child out of bath!

Jollyb Thu 08-Nov-12 19:27:08

Ah great news wilde and good to hear from you too tas. My close friend (the one I freaked out on last week) had her twelve week scan today and all was good with her too.

pebs hope everything goes well tomorrow.

Love to my fellow 2wwers. I'm enjoying the calm before the storm!

Dorita75 Thu 08-Nov-12 19:46:54

Ooo congrats cheese and wilde! Welcome cogito sorry you're here but as you can see, there are many graduates with bumps so it's a good place to be smile Hi to tas too, welcome back grin

Am feeling perky jolly! hopeful though it's annoying not knowing when to expect AF, could be anytime between tomorrow and next Fri due to the odd cycles recently.

Bit of advice please ladies - I've also been looking into the results of my blood tests a bit and would appreciate anyone's experience of this.

My doc said my LH level was fine and I've ovulated. My FSH level was higher than expected but nothing to worry about, she said to get tested again next month so we can check it. Anyway, I didn't ask what my LH level actually was but my FSH was 14.8 and some websites say at 15 they don't advise IVF as your chances are pretty non existent but another site says up to 20 is normal. Doc didn't seem concerned at all....I'm not too concerned but any thoughts??

Thank you in advance lovely mn ladies!

Dorita75 Thu 08-Nov-12 19:50:26

...not that I'm looking at IVF, just mean that they think 15 is too high for a pregnancy....

Jollyb Thu 08-Nov-12 19:57:05

What day were the bloods taken?

wilderumpus Thu 08-Nov-12 20:05:14

thanks peeps, and thank you all for your kind thoughts running up to the scan, I saw some earlier and welled up. you are so lovely.

fingers so crossed for plenty of BFPs soon, can't wait smile smile

tasmaniandevilchaser Thu 08-Nov-12 20:07:52

hi dorita I had my FSH tested a few cycles before I got my BFP and it was 12.8. So not much difference, but it can vary from cycle to cycle. I hear acupuncture is good at lowering FSH.

Congrats on the scans and hello to everyone new and old!

Thanks for your kind comments, I did feel better about it all today.

Dorita, I don't know anything about FSH levels, but it has to be good that your doctor wasn't overly concerned?

Dorita75 Thu 08-Nov-12 22:17:57

Bloods were taken on day 18 and day 2. Fsh was the second jolly Think you're right MrsHP but you know what it's like when you start googling! But nice to hear good things like your's tas thank you x

pebspop Fri 09-Nov-12 10:24:27

very happy today. scan went well and baby was measuring perfectly for 19+0 which is what I am based on lmp and dating scan!

Jollyb Fri 09-Nov-12 10:32:11

pebs you've brightened up a miserable day at work (I am on a bus between hospitals not skiving on mumsnet I promise).

dorita from my extensive research (googling) on the subject - my conclusion is that you can't interpret much from 1 result. How long has it been since you were last pregnant?

tasmaniandevilchaser Fri 09-Nov-12 13:32:22

great news pebs!! smile.

I had a GP appt today and we listened to the baby's heartbeat with a doppler smile. Been signed off for another week and have to have more antibiotics though, which is not so great.

mrshp hope you're feeling better today, it's understandable to feel rubbish sometimes, just roll with it and a better day is just around the corner.

wilderumpus Fri 09-Nov-12 13:49:30

so happy for you pebs

yay tas for HB but sorry about being signed off sad

dorita I don't know anything about these things sorry. I do know that it is usually best to step away from google at these times though grin

BraveLilBear Fri 09-Nov-12 14:17:36

Hi tas - sorry about your granny and all the other uncertainties - sounds like a rotten string of luck. Fx it picks up soo and minitas has been unharmed by all the drama.

Woop woop for the good scan news wilde - get you measuring ahead for dates! Bet it feels good to be 'out' - especially before Xmas so no sneaky non-drinking required.

I like the idea of a baby blanket - embroidered or knitted? Have been seriously considering learning to knit (or relearning, as I used to knit when I was a kid) but think it would be 'way too obvious' to everyone who doesn't know we're trying IFYSWIM.

Glad you're both feeling better dorita and MrsHP, too

Pebs and news from scanland? Hope all is well...

BraveLilBear Fri 09-Nov-12 14:19:43

<shakes head at own stupidity>

I totally didn't scroll to next page... Yay pebs fab news grin

And must be great to hear HB tas tho agree must be rubbish being signed off. Still, if you need the rest, you need the rest. Watch a boxset or something grin

cogitosum Fri 09-Nov-12 14:36:27

Congrats on scan pebs and HB tas

Got very slight period like cramps today but feeling sick with them so hoping it's ok!

Just did another test in the loo at work and it was a fairly strong positive so I'm hoping hcg is rising. Did a CBD this morning and it still says 1-2 weeks which is worrying as lmp was 5 weeks ago so should be 2-3 now

BraveLilBear Fri 09-Nov-12 16:12:41

cogitosum when was last time you tested? There's no point worrying about CBD indicators if it's not been an actual whole week since last time...

cogitosum Fri 09-Nov-12 17:23:44

I took one yesterday morning and one this morning... (I know, I know!!)
It's more the fact that yesterday should've been further along... I ovulated 3 weeks ago - and the last time we dtd was over two weeks ago so it's not possible for me to be less than 4 weeks (so 2 for the CBD indicator)

wilderumpus Fri 09-Nov-12 17:36:22

step away from the sticks cogito! didn't listen to own advice today you are pregnant, congratulations!

is sooooo weird how you just want a bfp... any bfp! and you get one... yay! ... but then you need a better bfp! with lots of different brands! grin

brave is a crochet blanket! been so long since i crocheted tho is quite a mess already blush only started this aft! is my mess tho and so i love it smile

Jollyb Fri 09-Nov-12 17:44:21

cogito when pregnant with my daughter my CB digi results lagged behind by at least a week. Please don't read too much into them. They are inaccurate and there is also huge variation in BHCG levels between women. I know it's far easier said than done and I am very guilty of serial digi testing.

As Wilde said - today you are pregnant!

cogitosum Fri 09-Nov-12 21:04:46

wilder that's exactly how I feel!
jollyb thank you that makes me feel better smile

I love the mantra 'today you are pregnant'!

Dorita75 Fri 09-Nov-12 21:35:56

I agree Wilde Google can be baaaad! Too much information and never the answer you want!!

Jolly I was pregnant in February (mmc at 12wks) first and only time (so far). Only took us 5 months to get pregnant then. Will go and get another blood test next when AF arrives so something to compare with. (See how I'm being certain about AF to try and fool her into staying away?)

Great news pebs

Babys been quiet today so I'm freaking out as usual, 34wks tomorrow, will it ever end?

cogitosum Sat 10-Nov-12 09:41:48

dorita I do the trying to trick my period thing. I had a mmc earlier this year and found out I'm pregnant again this month so I hope it's your month too

I went up to 2-3 weeks on CBD today so hopefully hcg seems to be rising!

Jollyb Sat 10-Nov-12 15:56:32

Great cogito now no more digis for at least another week. They are evil things. That wait with the egg timer arghhh.

Now I think I'm 5 dpo and I may be imagining it but I have super painful boobs. I don't usually get this . . . . .

dorita I like your stylewink

state hope you're feeling a bit brighter and bump is wriggling away. If you really think that your movements are down please do go and get monitored.

Marking my place in order to lurk... <lurks>

<delurks> Actually, just have to blurt this out, because... well, not sure why.

DF had his vasectomy on Thursday, 18th October. Been told it takes around2-3 months for the sperm count to drop low enough for him to be considered infertile and that we should use contraception until that time.

Well, I got my first PP period on Friday, 19th October! I know I usually O around day 21 ish, give or take. Last few days plenty of EWCM, yesterday felt um, romantic ( grin) We had unprotected sex two days ago and this morning...

We don't want any more children (hence the vasectomy!) so what are we doing?! We both had some really low days after the op and he did make a comment along the lines of 'if it happens then it's clearly meant to be' when he got home... but that was at a point when we thought it wasn't even possible because I still hadn't had a period yet (DS3 is approaching six months! shock and he's crawling, too <proud> ).

So, yeah, my LP will probably be shortish as still full on breast feeding, and his count will have been falling over the last three weeks since the op but what if... what if...

I'll be donning my full metal jacket again! grin

Polka2 Sat 10-Nov-12 17:50:13

Marking place for lurking too but humongous YEY for pebs gringrin

(Scuttles off to dark hole leaving a hot pot of tea and buttery crumpets for you lovely ladies!)

tasmaniandevilchaser Sat 10-Nov-12 19:16:05

hi all, hope you're having a good weekend. Thanks for crumpets polka!

hi to manda!!! Can't believe your DS is nearly 6 months smile. Hope that you get some answers to your dilemma soon, that jacket must be heavy!! grin

cogito congrats! and step away from the sticks. Today you are pregnant smile, I've been saying that a lot to myself lately.

wilde and brave thanks for your messages but don't worry about me being signed off, I'm very very happy! I am wiped out and it's a good excuse to do absolutely nothing. I'm not really well enough to be bored yet. Lucky I secretly love Murder She Wrote!!! though have got into CSI Miami and Phil Spencer's secret agent programme as well.

Hope everyone else is ok.

Dorita75 Sat 10-Nov-12 20:40:30

I hope so cogito! Though I've started getting menstrual migraines, since September, very annoying, but they tend to start quite lightly a few days before AF comes, and I've had headache today so not looking hopeful but it ain't over till the fat lady...arrives!

Exciting stuff jolly hope they stay sore!!

Morning all.
Wow, I can't believe so many of my original gang are so far along!! Well done to state, possum, wilde, mumtum and pebs grin
I think I got a BFP this morning, but it's only tentative at this point as I tested 4 days early. But it's a glimmer of hope, the first since my mc in May.
Am so desperate to have a baby I'm praying that this isn't a false alarm. confused

cogitosum Sun 11-Nov-12 12:13:34

Congratulations yikes a line's a line...

yikes, as I have learnt on here, today you are pregnant! Congrats and I hope that glimmer turns into a big ray!

wilderumpus Sun 11-Nov-12 13:08:20

yay for sore boobies jolly smile that was one of my first signs too FWIW smile

congrats yikes! YAY! am so pleased for you chuck thanks

glad you are happily loafing about tas!

hehe manda I hope you get the result you want! Hope your little family is doing well too?

good luck dorita lets hope it is a pg headache...

state hope bubs has righted itself if not do go and get monitored won't you.

Honestly, you go away for a few days and come back to bfps! grin So happy for you yikes and cogito (have I missed any others?)!

Jolly sore boobs, eh? A sign with all three of my pregnancies...

pebs delighted to hear the news about your scan smile

Good luck dorita

<waves to Manda>

23+2 today, <whispers> edging ever closer to the 'magic 24 weeks'.

Polka2 Sun 11-Nov-12 18:28:07

Ok ok I'm still lurking but yikes a BFP that's amazing, a line's a line woooooohhhhhhhhooooooooooogrin

Jollyb Sun 11-Nov-12 20:43:16

Fantastic news yikes. The new thread is clearly working its magic.

Boobs still very sore - I winced when DD leant on me earlier. But I didn't really have any symptoms when pregnant with her so trying not to read too much into this!

possum 24 weeks - a big milestone. Hurray!!

Thank you! Soooo nervous!!! Struggled sleeping last night, which is not like me...
Another faint line today. I have my first appt with the hospital for fertility tests on Thursday. Not going to cancel it for fear of jinxing things!!

ImAbbs Mon 12-Nov-12 08:42:28

Hi ladies am lurcking. Not quite ready to join in just yet.

MumTumWanted Mon 12-Nov-12 08:59:09

Yay yikes grin oh the tempting fate fear how we all know that so well .... So so pleased for your bfp smile

Welcome imabs feel free to lurk and join in when your ready xxxx

17+4 today midwife on Friday I'm amazed ... Just wish I could get rid of this stinking cold and hacking cough. It hurts so much sneezing and coughing sad

Great news yikes <crosses fingers and toes>

Thanks for the replies, baby was wriggling away shortly after I posted that message, buying the carseat and base appears to have thrown the metal jacket back on because it was the only big expense, I kept putting it off and even sat in the carpark outside the shop waiting for 10 movements before I'd go in. But since ds arrived early and the shops over an hour away I couldn't avoid it any longer.

pebspop Mon 12-Nov-12 09:37:50

congrats yikes hope you have started an avalanche of bfps on here.

state glad the baby started moving again. i am waiting to feel movements but haven't felt anything yet. i suppose that will just start a whole new round of worrying.

i have got my 20 week scan on thursday OMG!! just hope everything is ok. i am popping into epu for a quick scan to check heartbeat before i go to antenatal like i did at the dating scan. that will be my last trip to epu as i can't go after 20 weeks. i think i will find out the sex as we are not bonding at all with this pg so it might help us if we can plan for that we are having. dh is getting worried that we will just have a baby sprung on us in april and we won't be ready as we have just been thinking one step at a time!

BraveLilBear Mon 12-Nov-12 10:26:56

Congrats to Yikes and sounds good for you, too Cogito!

Boo to the cold MumTum hope you feel better soon.

Love that you got the carseat State! And love it even more than ministate obliged with the required ten movements to allow the purchase wink

Seriously, though, really good news.

And Tas CSI Miami, huh? Have you nailed the Horatio-sunglasses-flourish-interrogate move yet? That's the true test of too much CSI lol. Hope you're feeling better every day.

Sore boobs Jolly? How exciting! I'm properly flip sided - I get pre-AF sore boobs, but when pg had nowt until after BFP. Freaked out when everyone said 'classic pg symptom' was sore boobs lol. Sounds like the experience with DD was similar to mine - fx this time it's a good sign grin

<waving to everyone else>

tasmaniandevilchaser Mon 12-Nov-12 17:56:53

have forgotten to congratulate yikes, great news! smile

brave don't make me laugh!!! I just had a coughing fit and my pelvic floor is not up to it!!! And no I haven't even thought to practise the sunglasses interrogation flourish, I will have a go grin

I've never had sore boobs in any of my pg, so don't give up hope if you don't have them!

I don't have sore boobs yet. Snuck to the loo at work a few times today to poke them but nothing! Lol.

lurcherlover Mon 12-Nov-12 22:43:53

Congratulations to yikes and the other bfps! This is proving to be a very lucky thread grin

Hi to ImAbbs. I lurked here for a while after my mc before posting. Join in whenever you're ready - everyone is really friendly and if it seems like we've all known each other forever, it's honestly only because we're so chatty and lovely and this thread is very fast-moving!

MumTum we are pregnancy twins - I am 17+5 today!

state glad your naughty baby started wiggling again. They do it on purpose to worry us...not long to go now until you meet that wriggler!

pebs I felt movement with ds at 19.5 weeks I think. I had an anterior placenta which they say muffles movements - I have been surprised at the difference this time around so I think my placenta must be at the back this time. It's normal not to feel movements until about 22 weeks with your first baby though so you might have a bit longer to wait yet. Once you do feel them they tell you not to be worried about not feeling them regularly until about 28 weeks when you should be feeling plenty every day - until that point it's normal (but terrifying) to go for a few days without feeling anything, if the little sod darling has decided to bed in facing your stomach for a while.

Afm I am still muddling along until my anomaly scan, which is in two weeks. I am trying to be really positive about it and focus on everything being OK and looking forward to finding out the sex, and not letting myself metal on any bad thoughts fat chance

Night night everyone smile

Polka2 Tue 13-Nov-12 07:49:28

<runs in, in full body metal suit> I've got a feint line, I've got a feint freaking line aggggghhhhh so so scared and SO SO delighted!

wilderumpus Tue 13-Nov-12 10:34:16

<pokes head round door to shout> ah wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee polka! WOW am so delighted with all these BFPs smile smile congrats lovey smile

state congrats on car seat purchase!

hope you shake the cold soon mumtum thanks

good luck for your 12 week scan pebs!

Eek polka! Yay! grin What a lucky thread grin

LittleSpade Tue 13-Nov-12 11:15:49

Wow 3 BFPs in a week!!! shock grin
I love how we seem to be doing this in groups for added support.

Good luck to those still waiting to test! And Jolly i hope the sore boobs progress to a BFP for you too.

And good luck to pebs at your scan

tas i hope you're feeling a bit better?

BraveLilBear Tue 13-Nov-12 11:38:59

Wow polka another BFP! Congrats! grin

Sooo exciting! I'm P-5 days... twingey boobs but no bloating as I can tell. Still unsure. Last time, I knew I was pg cos boobs twinged on and off but not like the usual building agony pre-AF which seemed to crescendo after ten days before dying back the day after the arrival of the witch.

Was also crazy bloated. But not now. I did though see a pool of sick on the floor on my walk in and felt a mini gag at the thought... but that, I daresay, is probably normal. The fact that I didn't feel even slightly grim when clearing up DSS after an exorcist moment last Saturday can't be a good sign... (tho in hindsight, I think it's cos it smelt like calpol, and not sick....)

What progress Jolly? Remind me - when are you POAS?

cogitosum Tue 13-Nov-12 11:55:16

Congratulations polka that's great.

jolly my boobs are hurting a lot so hope it's a good sign for you!

I'm having progesterone and hcg blood tests today. No particular reason but I hope it'll put my mind at rest a bit!

pebspop Tue 13-Nov-12 12:27:47

congrats polka your post reminded me of when i get bfp! got a little flutter of excitement!

wilde it's my 20 week scan - don't put me back 8 weeks lol!

I have got the scan on thursday. starting with mild panic which will build up to the full metal jacket on thursday am aarrgghhh!!

lets get some more bfps on here!!

wilderumpus Tue 13-Nov-12 12:47:54

lol pebs, my brain is cream crackered. I definitely meant 20 week scan!

sorry, meant to welcome imabbs too. welcome!

MumTumWanted Tue 13-Nov-12 12:48:58

Yay for polka love this lucky thread wink

Good luck with scan pebs smile

Lurches are u feeling movements yet? It's my 2nd preg to get this far so I thought I'd be feeling something definite by now.... I've had pressure and tightening type feelings but nothing I could definitely recognise want to go public announcing movements

Just got back from the gp I knew I was poorly I have an ear throat and chest infection confused needless to say now have anti biotics and am metalling about taking themhmm just wish the cough would bugger off it hurts my lower bump so much when I sneeze and cough sad

BraveLilBear Tue 13-Nov-12 13:44:34

Oh MumTum that sounds rubbish! I always used to think a chest infection was a 'bad cough' til I had one and it floored me! Plus an ear infection? Youch sad

Hope you get well soon thanks

cogitosum Tue 13-Nov-12 17:04:24

Would anyone be able to help me interpret results?

HCG is 938 which seems high... based on new dates because of weird ovulation I had guessed I was 4 weeks but this seems closer to 5 weeks based on the chart i've seen.

Progesterone is 49.1 is this low? Does anyone have a link to ideal progesterone at differnet stages of pregnancy?

thank you!

Great news polka - you can join me in the re-testing-every-day-to-be-sure club!! I did my third test today. 4th tomorrow!!
cogito(ergo)sum - sorry, philosophy grad pedant here! - I'm having bloods done on Thursday so I can tell you the results when I get them so you've got something to compare to. But not sure how long they will take to come through...

cogitosum Tue 13-Nov-12 18:58:16

Thank you yikes that' would be great!

(Descartes originally wrote cogito ergo sum but later changed it to cogito sum as having 'therefore' destroyed his argument.. Also philosophy graduate wink )

Jollyb Tue 13-Nov-12 19:17:34

cogito I've just had a quick google and your progesterone level seems fine as does your bhcg. The table I found said normal range for first trimester was 10-90.

Many congrats to polka. So very exciting.

As for me I am now 8dpo (I think!). Fortunately I'm away on a course so no access to my supplies. I know I proclaimed earlier that I would wait til day AF due. Well I'm not sure I can see that happening so have decided to test on Sat which will be 12 DPO. Seemed a good compromise. Boobs slightly less sore now

dorita and mrs hp how are you both doing?

cogitosum Tue 13-Nov-12 19:26:04

Thank you jolly

The problem is they measure it differently in the us and there I think it's from 10 but I think mine was the English measurement. Aargh why do I do this to myself!

Good luck for sat! Fingers crossed for you.

Nothing doing here - DH away at crucial times so we didn't even dtd this month! Hopefully a month's break will help us next month...

ImAbbs Tue 13-Nov-12 20:20:15

Some good news on here, positive thinking helps! Any news for u yet pixie?

tasmaniandevilchaser Tue 13-Nov-12 20:35:17

Hi all on iPad so just short post

Polka brilliant news! Lots of good luck around

Mumtum well done for sorting yourself out, (unlike stupid me) take the antibiotics the alternative is much worse! Hope you feel much better soon, take it v easy

Hi to imabbs

Dorita75 Tue 13-Nov-12 21:20:11

Congratulations Polka!! How exciting!

I'm okay thanks Jolly I had a few stabbing type feelings on left side of uterus area today and yesterday. They feel different to ovulation pains and are too late for those (I think). I'm on CD16 of a 25 day cycle (when it's behaving itself) so think it could be implantation ...AM TRYING NOT TO THINK ABOUT IT!!!

Such a good thread of lovely bfps, perfect scans and kicking babies - see, we can do it!

Dorita75 Tue 13-Nov-12 21:22:06

Hang on, not CD16, I'm on CD 23....dohwink

lurcherlover Tue 13-Nov-12 21:38:32

Congratulations polka! This is a brill thread grin

cogito, I had my prog levels done when I was 5 weeks and they were 33.1. Googling didn't bring me any joy (as you say, the charts are different in the UK and the US) but my SIL is an obs/gynae registrar and she said that in her hospital they regard anything over 20 as a viable pregnancy. She also said it's not routine to even measure progesterone in most places, and these days prog supplementation isn't particularly fashionable, so I'm not sure why they do it really. It's just one more thing to get worried about! I'm 18 weeks tomorrow and touch wood baby is fine, so given that your progesterone is higher than mine was and well over 20 I don't think you have anything to worry about there.

mumtum I am feeling little movements - I thought I felt something a couple of weeks ago and now I am definitely getting little prods. Of course I worry if there is a day when I don't feel them (even though I know it's completely normal not to feel them regularly at this stage...) I am surprised at feeling them this early, but I've put it down to this being dc2 and my stomach never having toned up after ds

Polka2 Wed 14-Nov-12 08:03:59

Thank you ladies for your great support as always.

yikes yes you're right done another two tests all saying the same thing! Wooohhhhooo I never thought it'd happen again naturally after so many yrs of trying and we'd just contacted the IVF clinic to start the ball rolling, hope for everyone I hope but its a long road of metalling now!

One dead quick question( as I've erased the details From memory) who do I contact about getting an early scan, docs to reg BFP or early unit as I'd like an early scan? We're going on hols in two weeks to Cape Verde and I'm scared if something happens out there as its very much a developing country, mad or genuine concern?

Sorry for me me post, I'm struggling to scroll back but YEY for movements, bfp's and fingers crossed for 2 ww'swink

wilderumpus Wed 14-Nov-12 12:34:41

polka I cannot believe I have seen an ironic BFP with my own eyes (so to speak)! My friend had this happen, she was going for fertility treatment and had a scan of her eggs when she was ov'ing and turns out that egg was actually fertilised and turned into her DS. She then had a second baby by accident. fertility is SOOOO weird.

woo cogito it all looks good so far?

am so happy for all the BFPs this month, and rooting for all you tohers on the 2ww (at the same time, wtf are you all synchronised now?!?!).

I love this thread because we all had disappointing wombs that, in many instances, with a bit of time or a bit of professional twaeking have turned into high functioning baby-growing spaces smile. It really is a positive place to be after mc, I hope you settle in nicely imabbs.

did i say I have had some prods from the wean? early but indeedy so, is lovely... but not BRILLIANT, I can't describe it but think I am still metalling quite a lot and not bonding as well as I would like. every time it pokes me it takes a little bit more of my heart and am very frightened. Anyway, have my appt with the consultant tomorrow about recurrent mc's. I want to listen in, and hope they do... and don't at the same time! confused I know you will understand here smile

pebspop Wed 14-Nov-12 13:04:10

i am totally freaking out about the scan tomorrow.

i have rang my midwife and she is coming round after work to listen in for me. things must be bad as i have avoided the listening in so far.

i have got to get through this afternoon at work first arrrgghhhh

wilderumpus Wed 14-Nov-12 13:10:51

<dashes in to give pebs a secret hug>. you'll be ok! and how lovely that you are being so well looked after. let us know how the listening-in goes smile x

Jollyb Wed 14-Nov-12 13:46:51

Polka - early scan rule completely depends on where you live. Some ePus will do it others won't. Worth giving them a ring and booking into see your GP. How far along do you think you are? It 's really not worth having the scan too early ( ie before 6 1/2 - 7 weeks) as there is a risk you may not see anything if your dates are out by a few days.

I totally understand why you want to have an early scan before you go. But please remember an ok scan doesn't necessarily guarantee that everything will be ok and do if you are really, really worried about care overseas you may need to rethink your plans. Though remember the odds are well and truly in your favour and the chances are your pregnancy will be fine. It's a tough one! Many congrats again

Jollyb Wed 14-Nov-12 13:47:22

Pebs - thinking of you x

BraveLilBear Wed 14-Nov-12 13:55:38

Sending calming thoughts to you pebs - so glad the nice mw is coming round later. Fx it'll help...

tasmaniandevilchaser Wed 14-Nov-12 17:42:36

just dashing in to give pebs some positive vibes and a big squeezy hug. Hope the mw visit is reassuring. Let us know how you get on.

Polka2 Wed 14-Nov-12 18:21:01

pebs fingers and toes crossed for ur scan tomorrow, sounds like you're getting great care but (taking off my full body-suit metal jacket and handing it over) but metal away, we get it!

jolly think I'm 4wks6. I had a scan 6wks6 last time and had two lovely strong twin heart beats but at the 12wk scan my mmc was found, so a total realist but would really like some hand holding/reassurance along the way if I can.

It's a ball ache holiday conundrum, on the one hand if the worse happens there's not a lot they can do medically but if I had to go in and something could have been done but as its so backward and they couldn't do it, I'd never forgive myself.....metal metal metal!

Scuttles off mumbling to oneself but leaving some more ish crisps and dips.....enjoywink

pebspop Wed 14-Nov-12 18:53:25

mw been and heard hb! phew! can't wait to get tomorrow over with.

polka. I dont think I could go on the holiday. I had to turn down a trip to Vegas in this pg. loads of pg women do go on holiday though I have seen them in Maldives and a cruise as well as normal holiday places.

I don't think anything can be done if you are going to mc so don't worry the facilities will not be good enough to prevent mc.

my concerns would be food and medical facilities if you need them.

if you are going check your travel insurance mine says pregnancy complications aren't covered if you have had more than two mcs. don't know your history but make sure you check!

Jollyb Wed 14-Nov-12 18:59:37

polka - I really didn't mean my post to sound do negative and I didn't mean to imply that you were being unrealistic either. I'm so sorry if it came across that way

Jollyb Wed 14-Nov-12 19:02:54

Fantastic news pebs x

wilderumpus Wed 14-Nov-12 19:26:14

polka where and when are you going on holiday (if you say it might be 'backwards'?!)? I went to italy for two weeks from 5-7 weeks and was lovely to be away from worrying tbh. Went to India when in second tri with DS but even tho I was very relaxed during that pg and confident in Indian healthcare (If I could get to a hosp in time!) I wouldn't have risked being so far from home in the early days of the pg. Bizarrely, even in some of the most places of italy (amalfi coast) I would have days where I felt homesick for my bed, some white toast and normal tv! not like me at all!

hmm... I wouldn't have a scan before 7 weeks, but you have been there done that so do what you need to to relax! I did have a scan at 7 weeks and again at 9 weeks but because I had bleeding... but both scans only reassured me for about three days, then I worried again because really, it is just a photo isn't it. not a crystal ball.

yay pebs. good luck for tomorrow chuck thanks

Jollyb Wed 14-Nov-12 19:42:55

pebs I hadn't even considered the travel insurance side of things. I know I'm not pregnant but I've just booked a trip to Australia at end of Feb. Oh well have to hope it works in my favour

polka I'm not sure what I'd do in your position. Pre MC I'd have said go go go. But now I'm undecided. I suppose the most serious risk (though very unlikely ) is having an ectopic so having an early scan should rule that out.

A tough one x

Polka2 Wed 14-Nov-12 20:35:33

Thanks for the advices and jolly I know what u meant and am absolutely not offemdedwinkwink

It's Cape Verde were meant to be going to in three weeks, we've not been away for 2 yrs and 'cos of hubby's job we don't even get weekends together do would so love s break together....dilemma!

pebs so pleased the MW heard the wee one, so lovely smile

lotsofcheese Wed 14-Nov-12 22:07:23

That's a dilemma Polka - not sure what the best advice is. Unfortunately I have experience in the area of m/c & holiday travel.

My 1st m/c started on the last day of our family holiday in Portugal. Being abroad, not speaking the language etc made a sad situation worse. Luckily I was able to fly back the next day & get seen in the UK.

My 2nd m/c was 2 days before I was to fly to New York with DP. Unfortunately I needed surgery so we had to cancel. The EPU nurse told me that if it happened mid-flight the plane would have needed to be diverted & I would have been hospitalised & not covered by insurance.

I would definitely speak to your insurance company, informing them you are pregnant & ensuring you are covered for pregnancy-related complications, including m/c.

I can see why a sunshine holiday is tempting!!!

wilde - great news re the prods!
cogito - lol, that told me! I'll stick to my Wittgenstein from now on wink
polka - I vote for the holiday option. Think positive smile
I'm off to the hospital 2moro for what was meant to be a chat with the fertility nurse but I'll be able to tell them my good news (positive CB digi this morning), get some blood tests done and hopefully get some more info about my wonky uterus (-I've got one of those bicornuate /heart-shaped ones). Fx I get some good info.

Jollyb Thu 15-Nov-12 07:09:23

I caved. Just did a FRER 10 dpo and negative sad.

sad jolly. Will you test again in a couple of days?
The anticlimax of a negative test after a long old month is shit isn't it?

Jollyb Thu 15-Nov-12 08:32:45

Yup feeling pretty crap this am. Even had a little cry. Am sure I will test again.

It's never taken me more than 2 cycles to conceive before and I think this is adding to my frustration. Maybe I should look at this as a good thing as my uterus (womble) is being a little more selective and not accepting any old sperm and egg!!

Polka2 Thu 15-Nov-12 08:57:27

Oh jolly hugs

BraveLilBear Thu 15-Nov-12 10:12:11

Jolly really sorry to hear that thanks

Could still be early? FWIW, I'm pretty much convinced I'm out, too, this month. I'm in la-la denial land now but I know I'll be miserable when AF flies in and starts cackling at me.

Difference is, I'm too stubborn to spend on an early test, so am just delaying the bad news. Really feel for you. If it's still a BFN tho at the weekend, we could be cycle buddies in the pre-Christmas BFP hunt? Crap consolation prize, though, I know sad

polka tough call - totally understand the need for some time away, but get the worrying as well. Can you get advice off a mw at the epu or somehting? Like the ladies said above <sorry, different page, can't check and can't remember who> is definitely worth a call to insurance company, too.

bear - fx for you. You never know til AF arrives.

Just got back from hospital. The nurse was lovely, really put my mind at rest about my wonky uterus and has booked me in for a scan in 3 weeks. Lots of tips too like taking 75mg of aspirin every day (-does anyone else do that?) and eating lots of protein). I feel in quite a positive mood today. Que sera sera and all that. I even rang my dad to tell him my news (super early I know, but it was so miserable having the mc before when my close family didn't even know I was pg. and I ended up telling them all after the mc anyway so it seems daft to keep it secret).

wilderumpus Thu 15-Nov-12 10:50:39

yikes am glad you are in the system and being looked after smile I took the baby aspirin just after i thought I had ov'ed and until I was about 6 weeks (ran out on hols) and am sure it helped the baby stick! I think generally on this thread we quite like our aspirin.

jolly am sorry to hear you don't think you have made it this month. 10dpo is still early though. It really is. But BFNs suck sad. If it helps any I had a blinding BFN at 10 dpo (tested morning and evening blush) and then a strong positive mid morning at 11 dpo. So you never know until you get AF brew

arf polka who knows what you should do! You sound lilke you are excited about it and happiness has only got to help the pg?! But at 7 weeks you might feel like utter shite and only want to be at home! If you cancel will you lose the money and everything? could you go in Jan or owt instead when in the second tri and a bit bouncier?!

off to mc appt soon. Am already in a tizz, haven't felt bubs yet today (completely normal of course am only 14 weeks!) so am paranoid and really, really want to listen in but bet they won't and what if they don't hear anything?! And I don't want to talk about my mc's any more, I want them to be the past. They make me feel so sad and fretful.
Ho hum, just need to grow up and get on with it eh?

can't remember if I posted after pebs but YAY for listening in and good luck for today with the scan x

BraveLilBear Thu 15-Nov-12 12:20:16

Ooh good luck for your appt wilde everything crossed for you - and you pebs!

And thanks Yikes I promise to be more positive. Can't remember if it's this thread or not, but right now, I, like Jolly, have a Schrodinger's baby grin

Great news on the support Yikes that must feel great! Your nurse sounds amazing smile let's hope all this positivity rubs off with more good scan news and BFPs too!

wilderumpus Thu 15-Nov-12 13:22:29

hey all, finally back from appt. Was good, was about the mcs but the consultant said it was just procedure nothing personal and as this pg was going so well is nothing to worry about. I burst into tears and could hardly stop crying and so she got a mobile scanner and did a wee scan and reassured me that all was well, that each pregnancy was different and this baby is strong. She also said that if something was going to happen, it will and that is life, not just pregnancy, or this pregnancy, or me, but we really could get run over tonight so not to fret, and be positive for me, and for the baby.

She booked us in for a growth scan at 34 weeks tho said really that was for our benefit more than theirs as it looked like I could do with the support blush.

anyway. still feel like crying so think am just really hormonal today!

hope all well with you pebs

Oh Wilde, it sounds like they were so lovely to you today, I am so glad!

Jolly sorry to hear about about bfn. We didn't even dtd this month ad DH away for most of it but Will be back musketeering with you all next month though.

lotsofcheese Thu 15-Nov-12 17:16:28

Ah wilder these pesky hormones! Mine are raging away too! Although my pregnancy symptoms have now gone. Wish I could switch my brain off.

It sounds like you saw a lovely consultant. And a wee bonus that you had another scan. Glad it went well.

I'm still waiting on my neuchal screening results. It's only been a week, but I'm likely to come back high risk age-wise. So I'm going to phone the midwife tomorrow & see if I can book one soon.

I'm not going public with this pregnancy until I have the amnio results, which could be well into January & I'll be obviously pregnant before then - aaargh!

Jollyb Thu 15-Nov-12 17:35:15

Wilde and Yikes glad your appointments went well.

Feeling a bit calmer now though am still torn between thinking ' I tested too early there's still hope ' and 'roll on December!'

Oh well I'll know for sure in a few days. brave how are you do sure you're out?

pebs hope today went ok xx

pebspop Thu 15-Nov-12 18:14:28

everything was good at the scan. its a boy!

I am having scans every three weeks now to check growth so that is good.

I treated myself to a couple of pregnancy magazines so I am chilling out with those!

oo00PIXIE00oo Thu 15-Nov-12 18:17:38

Evening ladies ...... AF was due 13th I didn't have any stocks at home so lunchtime today ran to Boots ...... Back in the works loo (which is a cubicle near the office) I am trying to silently open the box so I can poas and ........AF beat me to it bitch crept up on me with none of the usual signs sad so had a little cry and a big hug from DH when we got home - fx for those still on the 2ww xx

DH cooking so I'm in a hot bath with a strong drink wine

Will see the bitch off for another month and try again

Big hugs to you all x

Dorita75 Thu 15-Nov-12 18:25:29

Congrats pebs! And also to Wilde you've both had good news today smile

Sorry jolly but as you say, not over yet. I also caved in today but just used a Home Bargains cheapy test in my lunch hour. BFN. I caved because I had a slight bleed yesterday mid morning that I thought was start of AF but I've had nothing since so had kind of convinced myself it was an implantation bleed (which although only 30% of women get, I managed to have a mc that only 25% have so why not?). It was a pinky red bleed that came away when I was giving myself a little 'sweep with toilet roll in my finger' - TMI but if I can't say it here where can ?! Anyway, I'm still waiting for AF and even though I have absolutely no pg symptoms, my usual AF symptoms aren't really happening either. I'm due tomorrow if 'normal' cycle is back but could be up to 4 days later going by last few months cycles.

MrsHP and Bear we may be the 4 musketeers next month wink

Dorita75 Thu 15-Nov-12 18:26:53

Sorry pixie that's shit. Enjoy your bath and drink xxx

Jollyb Thu 15-Nov-12 18:27:06

pixie sad. Good to hear your DH is being supportive though. Roll on December x

Jollyb Thu 15-Nov-12 18:31:20

Meant to say congrats pebs too. A boy. Must seem very real now. So happy for you.

dorita how frustrating. You just want to know one way or other. confused

Jollyb Thu 15-Nov-12 18:31:58

And Pixie - makes 5 of us all due within a few days!

ImAbbs Thu 15-Nov-12 18:40:54

Oh pixie, good u have supporting, trustworthy OH though.

LadyFlumpalot Thu 15-Nov-12 18:43:15

Hullo, I miscarried literally on Monday, I was at 10 weeks. sad

May I join your thread?

When is it ok to start trying again? Do I need to wait for a natural period then try after that, or can I just ahem dive right in once this bleeding stops?

lotsofcheese Thu 15-Nov-12 18:53:53

Welcome ladyflump - so sorry for your loss, it's such a horrible time. But you've come to the right place - lots of support here from ladies who understand.

pebs how lovely a boy!! There's some beautiful baby boy clothes in M&S just now.....

pixie AF is a bitch! Sorry she got you.

It looks like there could be a few of you TTC over Xmas - a nice time to be trying!! Xx

cogitosum Thu 15-Nov-12 19:56:15

lady sorry to hear this sad

I started trying as soon as the bleeding stopped. They tell you to wait for one period but that's just so they can date it.

lotsofcheese Thu 15-Nov-12 20:12:24

Forgot to say I was told to wait a cycle too, to allow any remaining miscarriage tissues to be passed during AF.

I don't think it's the end of the world if you try, though, to say the least.

My cycles were completely up the creek for a few months after my mmc at 11.5 weeks but were normal straight away after my m/c at 7 weeks.

Good luck! Xx

Hi ladyflump sorry to hear about your miscarriage, it's so unfair. sad So sorry for your loss. My own midwife told us to start trying straight away if it was what we wanted, but the hospital midwives suggested waiting for a period. We did try in the first cycle, but didn't conceive, then second cycle we caught again. All seems to be going well this time. Good luck xx

Dorita75 Thu 15-Nov-12 21:48:55

Hi ladyflump I don't think there's a right answer to this one. I waited a cycle and kind of wish I'd not because I'm still not pg and wonder if I would've been more fertile straight away, however, I passed some tissue 2 months later that was left over. My friend got pg weeks after an ectopic and is ticking along nicely. I wouldn't worry about the dating, they sort that out eventually, my friend was dated okay. It's entirely up to you and how you feel. Good luck and take care xx

oo00PIXIE00oo Thu 15-Nov-12 22:13:45

Hi lady sorry you find yourself here and yes there is no correct answer - we mc at 6 weeks in April and fell again straight after that unfortunately ended in a mmc at 10 weeks but we have our age against us. Ou ate n the right place for great advice and virtual love and hugs though x

jolly we are a band of five over the next two months - the run up to Christmas should be steamy lol x

LadyFlumpalot Thu 15-Nov-12 22:57:30

Hi all, thank you all for making me feel so welcome! I've just got to get through next Wednesday, the date that was booked for my 12 week scan - then I'll be fine.

Tis lovely to (virtually) meet you all.

Jollyb Fri 16-Nov-12 08:42:59

Did another FRER this am and there was the faintest of faint lines. 11DPO. Oh bloody hell. Half wish I had waited until Monday as really not sure I can cope with another chemical pregnancy. I didn't even tell my DP this am as it was so pale and we've had so many false starts.

Ok what to do now. Head telling me to wait til Monday but of course I'm not going to be able to do that. Maybe another FRER on Sunday. I can't face doing a digi yet as am still haunted by my MC. confused

Jollyb Fri 16-Nov-12 08:46:30

I meant to say welcome to Mrs Flumpalot (love your name too). Hope you're feeling ok. Don't underestimate how exhausting miscarrying can be.

As for when to try again I think we started as soon as the bleeding stopped. I did keep testing until I got my BFN though which took around 4 weeks after my MC at 8 weeks.

cogitosum Fri 16-Nov-12 10:19:59

Congrats on bfp jolly crossing fingers for you that it sticks

lotsofcheese Fri 16-Nov-12 10:28:00

jolly that's how my current (succesful, currently 14 weeks)pregnancy started...

I'd still be testing tomorrow even if Sunday or Monday is more sensible!! I used CBD once a week till 5 weeks then saw GP.

Good luck - have everything crossed for you!! Xx

cogitosum Fri 16-Nov-12 10:47:48

cheese I've just bought 2 more double packs of CBD blush

wilderumpus Fri 16-Nov-12 10:48:32

welcome lady and so sorry to hear about your mc. look after yourself won't you.

jolly tentative woo for you! 11dpo is really early so don't be surprised it is faint! Don't do a digi test yet noooooo, i never actually brought myself to do one as seeing 'not pg' would have floored me (even tho clearly am). Hang on in there and try not to test again at lunchtime and later today as I would most certainly would have with my IC cheapies grin fingers crossed for you! oooh!

pebspop Fri 16-Nov-12 14:23:46

whispering congrats to jolly as line is a line!

i have told my collegues today and am quite excited. i feel a bit bad as i know someone in my office is struggling with fertility issues. will try to stop talking about it but people are getting me excited.

i might be back to stressed out soon anyway and not want to talk about it. just feel a bit guilty even though it's not like i haven't had more than my fair share of problems.

wilderumpus Fri 16-Nov-12 15:19:37

you came out to work pebs! am so happy for you, what a milestone smile

ImAbbs Fri 16-Nov-12 15:20:54

Positive thinking ladies. Pixie between you and your OH have already 3 DDs but can see your want to make family complete fx for you

BraveLilBear Fri 16-Nov-12 16:48:45

Pebs first a boy, then coming out in the office! What a couple of days! So pleased for you grin be excited for now, enjoy it. There's bound to be more metalling round the corner at some point, so make the most of the feelgood right now.

And wow - oh my gosh Jolly How exciting! Totally understand your fear though. Keep us in the loop - we're here every which way <big supportive squeeze --but not on sore boobs-->

Hi to LadyFlump sorry you're here but these ladies are amazing - turned a huge corner emotionally with their help as no-one in RL knew what was going on. <big thanks to everyone for being so lovely. Hope you feel better soon.

Dorita75 Fri 16-Nov-12 17:15:04

Ooo jolly I really hope it's your month! Sounds like it, I'd agree with a Sunday test wink

pebs you have earned the right to enjoy the excitement from coming out. Having been thru what you have, you'll know when to be calm about it so as not to upset anyone else but you are allowed to be happy xx

AF, the old cow, rocked up today bang on time so that's one good thing and I'm looking forward to trying out my clearblue digital ovulation kit next time!

Have a good wkend everyone, I'm having a glass or 2 of vino tonightsmile

LadyFlumpalot Fri 16-Nov-12 18:00:03

Hey, I'm being well looked after, and I do already have one beautiful little 2yr old boy so I feel a bit guilty for feeling down, I've already been given one child - I feel it's a tadge greedy to be sad about losing one.

That made sense in my head.

Anyways, I'm definately getting my libido back, and starting to look forward to trying again.

Did anyone else have a sort of premonition before their miscarriage? I really struggled to have any excitement or emotion at all about being pregnant after about 6 weeks. In fact, my other half got very cross at me because I kept saying that I was sure something was wrong, and that I'd get to the 12 week scan and there wouldn't be a heartbeat. Even my mum said today that she had felt something was wrong.

Polka2 Fri 16-Nov-12 20:38:01

jolly (quietly whispering) YEY YIPPEE!!!

cogitosum Fri 16-Nov-12 21:11:04

Yes lady I had exactly that. In fact I can pinpoint the moment I think I lost it. I woke up and told dh something had happened... Everyone including drs told me I was being ridiculous but had scan and unfortunately I was right. I had one scan with heartbeat and it was after that I felt negative for some reason.

lotsofcheese Fri 16-Nov-12 21:25:28

Yes, lady I spent a lot of time googling "missed miscarriage" in my last pregnancy.

The night before I found out, I had the strongest feeling of impending doom, like the world was crashing down. I woke up the next morning & had the tiniest fleck of blood when I wiped. I just knew I wasn't pregnant any more & a scan confirmed a mmc at 9ish weeks, despite a heartbeat at 8+5.

tasmaniandevilchaser Fri 16-Nov-12 22:01:17

jolly, eek how exciting! smile

pebs brilliant news on your little boy and telling work.

hi ladyflump sorry to hear about your MMC. I had one last Nov (a year tomorrow since that horrible 12 wk scan). I did know deep down that something was wrong, I know exactly when the baby died, I felt so so dreadful, kind of ill and exhausted but beyond any pg exhaustion I've ever felt (been pg 5 times). But because I had no pain or bleeding and I didn't know what a MMC was (lucky me!) I assumed that everything had to be ok. Anyway, it gets easier with time.

oo00PIXIE00oo Sat 17-Nov-12 00:16:47

Hi abbs not sure what you meant by your message - yes my oh has 2 dds from a previous relationship who live about 144 miles away (though don't recall ever mentioning them on here before) I have a 9 year old of my own from a previous relationship.

Should that stop me trying again - should that stop us being absolutely devastated when we fail??

Being pg before the first mc made us realise how much we both want a baby and will keep trying

oo00PIXIE00oo Sat 17-Nov-12 00:20:11

Oooooo jolly envy grin will make sure I checkin over the weekend for an up date fingers crossed babe xx

Jollyb Sat 17-Nov-12 08:32:29

Not looking promising here. Of course I couldn't resist and did an Internet cheapy last night- BFN. Did another this am and BFN. They're meant to be the supersensitive ones detecting bhcg levels of 10 so have a bad feeling.

Going to buy a couple of FRERs today and will retest tomorrow am but I think I have to be realistic and accept this month isn't the one.

Jollyb Sat 17-Nov-12 10:28:04

Oh FFS just did another FRER and there's a line. Possibly slightly darker than yesterday's and not with FMU (but still very faint!).

I'm going crazy here. One minute thinking and hoping I'm pregnant and the next despairing.

I need some straight talking. No more Internet cheapies and no more testing at 10pm. Fortunately FRERs are 3 for 2 at the moment and so I've stocked up.

pebs such a big step for you to come out at work. I'm the complete opposite when it comes to pregnancy and my MCs. I tend to overshare. I get an controllable urge to tell people.

Hope everyone else is ok.

JaffaSnaffle Sat 17-Nov-12 14:35:53


Just wanted to pop in and say congrats on all the BFP.

jolly, ICs are always faint, in my experience. Early testing is so hard, but just try and be strong and stick it out for a few more days... FRER are better quality, and a line is a line. We all know on here that that is not a certainty, but every day that goes by makes a difference. I know it is so very hard, but try to distract yourself any old how and get through this weekend. And do your next test with FMU for your own peace of mind. Big hugs love, I think you are pregnant!

pebs I'm so pleased for you! A boy, and confidence to tell the office in one week. I'm sure you were sensitive to the person with fertility problems, but you have more than had your share of hard times, enjoy this as much as you can.

And manda, a sneaky last 2ww. smile Things have a way of working out for the best, and our desires and wishes are not always immediately obvious to ourselves x

I've got a 19 day old asleep accross my lap. Never thought it would happen, so happy it did

tasmaniandevilchaser Sat 17-Nov-12 15:33:09

hi jaffa! You had your baby! So pleased for you smile, it gives me faith it's all worth the wait and the stress

jolly step away from the sticks, you're driving yourself mad! A line is a line!

lotsofcheese Sat 17-Nov-12 17:23:52

Lovely to hear from you Jaffa - Enjoy your beautiful bubba.

Jolly - wow, the rollercoaster continues! My advice: only use FRER on 1st morning urine. And collect urine in a container rather than trying to POAS - good luck!!

Dorita75 Sun 18-Nov-12 07:21:52

Hi lady when I told my family at around 8wks, I couldn't get really excited, it was as is it wasn't real, wasn't going to happen, like it was false to get excited about the news. I have no idea whether that's a normal self preservation feeling but I was just very aware of the fact lots of friends or work friends had had babies and that not everyone is that lucky, someone has to be the 'one that has a mc' Turned out the mmc happened around 6wks. I'll never know if that feeling is normal or not, because if I'm lucky enough to get pg again I'll worry anyway now.

lotsofcheese Sun 18-Nov-12 08:32:04

Hi jolly how's things this morning with your tests? Hope you have a clear answer x

Jollyb Sun 18-Nov-12 08:42:57

Not really cheese am driving myself crazy. I should be 13 DPO today. Did a FRER with FMU and was much paler than yesterday. Repeated with SMU and about the same as yesterday! Think I was hoping for a stonking line today.

I am behaving like a madwoman. I have written the days on the tests with a marker pen and keep going back to have another look. This extreme metalling isn't healthy I know . I'm going to take DD to the park In a minute and bin the tests in the dog poo bin en route!!

I'm convinced this is another chemical pregnancy. I told DP yesterday that I might be pregnant again and he told me to relax, not to get my hopes up and retest in a week!! If only.

Anyhow enough from me. I think I may need to avoid mumsnet and the Internet for a couple of days.

wilderumpus Sun 18-Nov-12 10:29:09

jolly take a deep breath smile You have lines! lines mean that you are pregnant! congratulations!

Maybe step away from the sticks if you can and relax just a weeny bit? every day you don't get your period you are that bit more pg, that is a HPT in itself eh? and FWIW I always, always get a stronger line with mid morning wee, a few hours after i get up; my FMU barely got a line! really weird. I tested the day after my decent BFP (also not FMU) with 6am wee and had barely a line. was crushed, thought another cp was on its way. tested again at 10.30 and had a much better one. Lines didn't get darker steadily each day and after day four I stopped testing and just prayed AF didn't show (still hasn't!) so FMU not always brill tho think this is unusual.

anyway. congratulations my lovely! grin thanks

<whispers> congrats Jolly, a line is a line! X

lotsofcheese Sun 18-Nov-12 15:07:34

*Jolly it's times like this you wish you could switch your brain off!

FWIW, you've had at least 2 positive HPT's - you cannot get a false positive, only a false negative.

So, unless you start bleeding/AF - you ARE pregnant.

Definitely step away from the sticks, for at least 48 hours.

Remember: what will be, will be x

Polka2 Sun 18-Nov-12 17:02:58

jolly I hope the fresh air in the park did the trick!

I saw my reflexologist on Friday who recommended I eat LOADS of sweet potatoes as they have loads of progesterone in them (just I see the skin) so it's sweet pot soup followed by sweet potatoe roasties for weeks wink

Dorita75 Sun 18-Nov-12 20:53:48

We drive ourselves mad don't we jolly?! Sounds like a pg to me too...least you'll know for sure in a few more days. Hang on in there!

lurcherlover Sun 18-Nov-12 21:49:50

Popping in quickly to say a very whispered congratulations to jolly - hope you get through the next few days without going mad.

wilderumpus Mon 19-Nov-12 10:27:10

how you doing today jolly?

hope everyone had a nice weekend and BFPs are embedding nicely smile

I have had a SHIT morning! <TMI alert> Have had more, redder spotting over the past few weeks and days and this morning woke to bright red blood and a clot sad Some cramping but not too bad and could be constipation so trying not to dwell on it. Since clot has come out tho I have stopped bleeding and all my pg symptoms are still in force... Rang MWs said to ring GP and get to EPU but won't as can't face another GP/scan trip, but will wait it out as it seems to be ok now... if mc kicks off will get to A and E. does that sound sensible to you folks? am 15 weeks tomorrow, if I am going to mc I do NOT want to do this at home alone sad

Anyway, part of me desperately hopes that a super busy, active weekend (energy returned, I overdid it as am shattered today, just want to lie down. I climbed boulders yesterday.. . oops!) disloged this clot that, hope byond hope, has been the cause of the spotting and now all the spotting will calm down. I just hope. Does that sound at all likely? I had red blood, the clot, then pink blood straight after and then brown and now nothing. Hope beyond hope.

bah. this pregnancy business is hard work! Oh to be 37 weeks! or even 24 weeks and viable!

got a project deadline for tomorrow aft then a week off so am working my socks off for that to a) take mind off possible mc (which shows it must have calmed down as if I was mc'ing I would NOT be working!) and b) get to my week off without letting anyone down, and then CHILL.

be well ladies, I hope you have all had very uneventful (apart from conceptions and dtd!) weekends smile

Hope you're ok wilde sounds scary x

Dorita75 Mon 19-Nov-12 10:32:46

wilde what a morning-i think it sounds like a clot that's just shifted due to boulder climbing, he no more cramps now then doesn't sound like mc to me. Just keep an eye on how you're feeling and don't be scared of scan, it could reassure you xx

Dorita75 Mon 19-Nov-12 10:34:19

If not he...stupid phone!

pebspop Mon 19-Nov-12 11:13:08

wilde i would go for the scan in your position just to see what is happening. can you not ring the gp and get them to refer you straight to epu without a gp appointment.

it's probably nothing to worry about and like you said that clot might have been causing spotting and now it's gone but if it is a mc you don't want to have a late mc at home.

you sound like you are not too worried so i see that as a good sign.

wilderumpus Mon 19-Nov-12 11:29:03

thanks ladies, I really appreciate your time and thoughts. I don't know what to do. TBH I have to finish my first complete draft of my PhD for tomorrow aft, then I have a week off while it is marked. I think for now I must get that done and then I can see about my baby knowing that if I have got a problem I can deal with it fully.

Might sound crackers but Uni don't know am pg again and am so nearly there I might as well finish while am not in any pain. If the bubs has died then there is shit all i can do about that and the moment I find that out I will be finished for quite a while. Would be good to at least get my work out of the way as I will be free to grieve then.

how very practical confused

pebspop Mon 19-Nov-12 11:45:44

how shit is it to be so practical about these things?

my bump is aching at the top today. i don't like it as i had this pain in my pg which ended in mmc at 20 weeks. hoping it's nothing but it's not nice.

will ring my midwife if it is still achng later.

wilderumpus Mon 19-Nov-12 11:53:13

it is shit, pebs and pretty sad when I realise i am just holding it together until tomorrow aft when I finish work and it will all start to hit me. I will have to start getting the ball rolling with EPU etc i suppose because I don't think I can go to my 16 week appt next tues wondering if I am still pg! listening in will be hellish. shit bugger tits.

i do wish I had a doppler you know. It could all be fine!

sure your bumpy is ok, but understand your worry!

BraveLilBear Mon 19-Nov-12 12:29:48

Hi wilde so sorry you're having drama. Really hope you're ok. Good luck with the first draft. Yes it's practical, but I would agree that's probably best - but if you get any red flag symptoms, please please consider dropping work and getting things sorted first.

Fx for you (on both fronts).

Jolly I don't know what to say. Sending you love and luck and POAS resistability. I think your OH is being very sensible - not that that will make you feel any better, I know.

Stay positive pebs give the mw a call - sounds like they're treating you so well, I'm sure they'll be able to offer some advice or reassurance...

AFM, well, AF still taunting me. Stronger AF pains every day, still no sign. Just want to reset the clock so I can focus on getting a Christmas BFP.

Jollyb Mon 19-Nov-12 12:57:54

wilde and pebs what can I say? You both know that the likelihood is that all is well but it doesn't stop the worrying.

wilde don't stress yourself out too much. If you can't finish the draft am sure you will be able to get an extension in your circumstances. I know it would be nice to be able to draw a line under your Phd before your week off - just don't overdo it in the process.

AFM - haven't tested today but am still slightly freaked by the fact that some of my later tests were so pale. I've had about 7 BFPs in all so am in no doubt about there being a line - just concerned about a lack of progression. I've been in this position before too many times . No more tests in the house so am going to try to hold out for a few days. AF due today.

jaffa a lovely image of you snuggling with a newborn x

Jollyb Mon 19-Nov-12 13:00:12

Ps brave are you going to test soon? I'm an excellent advertisement of why you should not test early!

BraveLilBear Mon 19-Nov-12 13:17:02

Hey Jolly I'm impressed at your resolve!

I refused to test early after last time. Well I say last time, I lost that at 5+2 and hadn't tested til a day late and still, when you google chemical pregnancy, it makes out that you're only upset because you tested early and if you hadn't tested early then you'd never have known and therefore it's all your own fault.

Which I bitterly, bitterly resent. I already feel like a total fraud being on this thread as so many people (no-one here, I might add, just a general google-supplied perception of medical world) don't class chemical pregnancies as 'proper' pregnancies and therefore 'proper' miscarriage.

Sorry for the rant, and I know so many people have have experiences a million times worse than mine, but my experience still had a significant impact on me.

Anyway. I really hope you get some clarity soon.

If still nothing by Wednesday, I'll test then. But honestly, I know I'm not pregnant. Like last time, I woke up one morning, and knew something had gone wrong. Next day, mc started.

Jollyb Mon 19-Nov-12 13:31:10

brave I think I tried to deal with my chemical pregnancy by not classing it as a 'proper pregnancy'. I was then doubly devastated when I had my second MC (blighted ovum) at 8 .

Fingers crossed for the both of us (and Wilde and pebs)

pebspop Mon 19-Nov-12 13:39:16

i am feeling a bit better now. just took the belt off my normal (not maternity) dress. blush is there a dick head icon!

i am going to catch an earlier train home tonight and have a chill out anyway.

Jolly when i use ic's the line doesn't get darker for ages. i was expecting the line to be darker each day and panicked.

Jollyb Mon 19-Nov-12 13:47:03

pebs glad you're feeling better. Belts will soon be a thing of the past. wink

tasmaniandevilchaser Mon 19-Nov-12 13:50:48

Hi pebs sounds v normal to me, had that with dd who is nearly 4yrs old now. Totally understandable that you're worried, can you speak to your midwife?

I'm madly stressing about everything, can't sleep and I feel like shit. I thought I was getting my anxiety under control but after the pneumonia, I'm wobbling. Wondering whether I should call and ask to speak to a bereavement midwife. Though I feel like a bit of a fraud cos I see them as there for people who've had late losses. I've just had a mmc and ectopic, though all in the past year so it has been intense.

Wilde, sounds like it's all getting better. I completely understand the feeling of needing to get things out of the way first. I was exactly the same with my ectopic, I didn't even do a test til the weekend even though I knew I was pg. I needed to get stuff done that week and I knew I'd need energy for what was coming. Though I would really get to the Epau ASAP. You can get looked after there, a&e isn't a nice place to be with a pg problem.

Jolly hope you're doing ok

Hi to everyone else

Jollyb Mon 19-Nov-12 14:25:12

tas don't ever feel like a fraud you've had a shit time. Whether or not you fall strictly under the remit of your bereavement midwife, I think it may be worth getting in touch. They could point you in the direction of a specialist counsellor. Don't underestimate how long it takes to recover from pneumonia either. Xx

wilderumpus Mon 19-Nov-12 16:22:29

hey all

thanks for your advices earlier, I took them and got a referral to EPU. Baby fine grin turns out they can se my placenta on the scan now and it is over the cervix which is making me bleed whenever I do owt smile It should shift tho if it doesn't it means a CS but I don't care!

Dr who I had to speak to to refer me was the total twat who I saw when first pg (who congratulated me on being pg but was referring to my last, mc pg as he hadn't read my notes properly and then was cross with me for the rest of the appt). he was brutal about what kind of mc this would be at 15 weeks but still wouldn't refer me today. sicko. I fought him and got my referral though.


tas go to your counselling, be well. mental health is just as important as sickness thanks

thansk for today. what a horrid day but what a lovely ending.

Jollyb Mon 19-Nov-12 17:02:48

wilde so relieved to hear everything's ok. You must be so glad that you went for a scan instead of going your homework.

Yay yay yay!!

tasmaniandevilchaser Mon 19-Nov-12 17:28:01

Wilde phew! So glad all is ok, but what an absolute arse for a GP! Have you got the energy to complain?

I have called the specialist counsellor and left a MSG. I saw her before and it did help. Thanks, your messages have given me the impetus to do it. I've always fretted about babysitters for dd but I'm just going to beg favours and we'll work it out somehow.

Yay wilde! That doctor sounds like a right cock. I'd complain x

wilderumpus Mon 19-Nov-12 18:26:23

jolly I did do my homework, then did my scan grin

tas and backward I think I will have to complain about the GP. It is like he is a sociopath, he is so cold and shitty and sexist. If I wasn't me, and a PITA I would have waited till weds and be in bits tonight and, from what he said I would be fully expecting to have the most traumatic mc, while still being ignored er, by him. I asked him for help, he basically said, 'oh yes, you will need our help because these awful things will happen to you. But I am am not going to give it to you until weds after these awful things have happened.' bastard. And he never once called my baby a baby, but 'retained products of conception'. wtaf.

Anyway, am so happy tonight. I feel like for the first time since I started spotting at 6 weeks someone listened to me (EPU were just fab), and now I can actually be confident the baby really is ok and the spotting isn't heralding mc. It is huge.

good on you tas for ringing, that's quite a milestone.

cogitosum Mon 19-Nov-12 18:36:28

wilde have I understood that your gp referred to your baby at 15 weeks as retained products of conception? shock and angry

It's a horrible expression anyway.

Would def complain and is there a way you could change gps?

cogitosum Mon 19-Nov-12 18:37:05

Oh and so happy everything is ok.

wilde - so glad today had a happy ending for you smile
pebs - hope you're ok?
I've still not had any symptoms apart from feeling knackered and a poke-y feeling in my uterus, so feel like a bit of a fraud. Am 4+4 today so still v early days. Counting down to my 7 wk scan...
How are the other recent BFP-ers doing?

wilderumpus Mon 19-Nov-12 19:21:42

cog yes, he did. he never acted like I was vulnerable or sad or pg with a baby but with a banal thing that might be dead sad. He said worse than that about the situ, I couldn't repeat it it was too awful but DH was devastated by the state I was in when he got home.

he is not my GP thank god, but he was the on duty dr and even tho I said to the receptionist I did not want to deal with him again I had no choice unless i waited until late afternoon. I will have to say something but am dreading getting caught up in a fight, too hormonal and all that. but really, it's like he has no heart. He's the one that said even if everything is ok at the 12 week scan (at my 'hey I'm pregnant after a nasty mc' chat) it could still all be wrong at the 20 week scan - because I had picked him up on the mc he had just congratulated me on being pg with. he likes to be barry big bollocks. grrrrr.

but thanks smile will stop ranting about him now!

Polka2 Mon 19-Nov-12 20:37:33

wilde so pleased you had the reassuring scan great news and what a complete prick that GP sounds awful!

tas I think chatting with an experienced pro in these things will really help.

yikes glad you're ticking along and not feeling too rough!

AFM had GP appt this morning, he was really reassuring about our hols and that he'll get us an early scan before, been feeling hideously rough (more so than the previous pg) so I'm hoping that's a good sign!

Hello to everyone I've missedwink

lotsofcheese Tue 20-Nov-12 09:48:04

How are you today wilder?

Hoping you've had an ok night.

And I agree fully with a formal complaint regarding your Doctor. The Practice Manager is a good starting point. I'm sure there will have been other complaints about him if he's been that inappropriate with you.

Good luck & hoping things are better today.

wilderumpus Tue 20-Nov-12 09:59:53

hey all.

polka am so glad you are relaxed and happy about going on holiday smile enjoy!

cheese had a good nights sleep thanks and woke this morning feeling very happy and confident in my pregnancy yay. DH is looking after the house etc so am all lazy!

Is the EDD for the baby we mc'ed in april today though. aw. bit sad about that but also insanely grateful for this wee one too.

hows the pneumonia tas?

hope the new BFPs are ticking along wonderfully grin

pebspop Tue 20-Nov-12 10:38:46

it was the edd + 1 year for my baby i lost last year on sunday and i totally forgot. didn't realise until i came into work on monday and noticed the date. felt a bit bad but i do think about him a lot. hope you get through today ok wilde i agree with complaining about that idiot. it's a pain you have to see gp to get a referral to epu. i have never had a gp appointment in any of my pregnancies. the midwifes and epu sort it all out.

Enjoy your holiday polka could be your last one for a while! make sure you check out the travel insurance just in case.

feeling much better today. i have got my maternity jeans on and ordered some new maternity tights. my tights were really digging in yesterday.

quick dilemma for you all. i am going on a girls weekend this week. just staying in a cottage with one of my good friends and some of her friends/family who i know but not 'my friends' iykwim. one of those girls can't have children and has decided to adopt in the future. i haven't told my good friend yet as i wanted to tell her face to face. should i text her and let her know so she can warn the other girl or should i just tell them on friday and hope the other girl is ok with it. don't want to make her feel awkward all weekend if she is uncomfortable around pg people.

the girl in my office seems fine about my pg. i haven't really talked about it since my excitment on friday and see was asking me questions yesterday.

BraveLilBear Tue 20-Nov-12 10:42:28

Blimey wilde what a day. So pleased you finally got the peace of mind you needed. I'm totally on the complain-about-GP-bandwagon here. I know you don't want a fight, but how would you feel if he did that to someone else? Someone you knew?

That, for me, is always the motivation I need to step up and make your thoughts known.

Btw - so impressed that you nailed your homework first! Babywilde is going to have nowhere to run when they would rather be playing on the Xbox etc instead of finishing off their maths!

Sorry for the EDD arrival thanks

Great move tas I really hope it helps. I'm sure people will come through to assist with DD. Fx for you x

Polka awesome news about the early scan! Maybe Wilde should take your GP on loan, he sounds ace!

Hi to everyone else smile

BraveLilBear Tue 20-Nov-12 10:52:42

Hi pebs I love how you're being really sweet and considerate with people about your good news. Is there any chance you could meet your friend face-to-face before Friday? Or at least talk on the phone? That might better than a text - plus, you can explain your concern about upsetting the other girl without it sounding like a really big deal.

While it may be painful to the other girl to see pregnant women, it's not as if (a) you can hide it anymore and (b) you're the only pregnant woman in the world. Your good friend may be better placed to know how she feels about pregnant ladies, so if you give her the option, I'm sure that'll be appreciated - would also give you a clue as to how to play it.

At the end of the day, I know you're being considerate, but you can't pretend like you're not pregnant for the fear of not upsetting someone - the fact that your colleague is being so nice suggests that you're playing it right, and that people have the capacity to feel happy for others, even if they feel sad for themselves.

That's my 2p worth anyway... smile


I was filling in the maternity forms for work and the midwife who filled in my matb1 (not my lovely usual midwife) has filled the date I'm expected to give birth in as the date my miscarried baby would have been due instead of my current due date. Way to go making me feel great...

wilderumpus Tue 20-Nov-12 11:31:49

oh backward. that's shit thanks

brave yeah am a pain. DS can't ask a question without me being like 'Oh! how interesting, let's look that up' grin I am so boring. I was terrible at uni the first time tho, such a drunk grin barely went to lectures...

I will complain aye peeps, thanks for the encouragement. I have a week off from tomorrow aft so will have time to beat that drum. Am all worried about coming across as a hormonal, emotional pg woman with a beef tho, rather than composed and just cross hmm am not good at this kind of thing but I know as a gobby person who doesn't take orders just because someone has a white coat I should stand up for me, and others.

ah pebs . Text your friend and let them know and she can then let her friend know if she thinks it is necessary? Though if the friend is going down the adoption route hopefully she'll have some peace with not having her own now, and with pg in general. Don't feel bad though. and wooo how lovely to have a girls weekend in a cottage! want one!

Polka2 Tue 20-Nov-12 17:32:15

Oh ladies pls help me....... This afternoon everytime I wipe I have bright red blood with quite a bit of mucous, I'm not cramping and its only when I wipe but I'm fecking terrified. I'm 5wks5 today. My plan is if it continues thru the night that ill try and get a scan tomorrow but help, hand hold, help ladies.sad

sad polka thinking of you xx

lotsofcheese Tue 20-Nov-12 17:56:42

Holding your hand tightly polka & hoping you can get a scan tomorrow. My EPAU take self-referrals but only after 48 hours of bleeding (although I've been seen both times within 24 hours)

Crossing everything for you xx

wilderumpus Tue 20-Nov-12 18:03:10

no cramps is a good sign. Hope you are ok polka, thinking of you <holds hand> x

Dorita75 Tue 20-Nov-12 18:29:32

Holding both your hands polka I agree with wilde that no cramping is a very good sign xx

Jollyb Tue 20-Nov-12 18:43:02

polka another hand holder here.

Please phone your EPU first thing but also book at back up GP appointment in case your unit doesn't accept self referrals.

Remember lots of women bleed and go on to have healthy pregnancies.

Hope you manage to get some sleep

Polka2 Tue 20-Nov-12 18:54:05

Thanks ladies you're ace, as no one knows in rl its even more scary as you all know. DH trying to be helpful and supportive in his own way! Still no cramping but i do have a teeny dull ache and its now more browny when wiping, so sorry for TMI but seeing as previously I had a mmc at 12wks with a dot of implantation at 6 wks, the red blood is new. Thanks againsad

I've got all my fingers & toes crossed for you polka, I really hope your baby is safe and sound in there. I hope you manage to get an EPU referral tomorrow to get it checked out. Worrying times, I know. Am so scared myself, just want to get past 10 weeks (where I got to last time) and then I might chill out a bit. Why oh why do some folk sail through pregnancy and others have non-stop worries?! xx

I always think the cruellest thing about previous miscarriage(s) is that it totally takes your innocence and excitement out of future pregnancies. I'm starting to enjoy this one now that I'm past 24 weeks, but up until now, I've been very 'meh' about the whole thing x

lotsofcheese Tue 20-Nov-12 20:25:54

I agree possum - you never get that innocence back. Or confidence in your pregnancy. Mmc are particularly cruel, as you have no idea anything is wrong.

I'm 14+5 & haven't really bought into this pregnancy yet. I'm beginning to feel movement which is a little reassuring. I'm dreading telling people eg work but I'm showing & can't avoid it for much longer....

lurcherlover Tue 20-Nov-12 21:32:19

Evening all. polka, thinking of you tonight. Hope tomorrow brings you good news.

wilde, that GP sounds appalling and I would definitely complain!

cheese, I know exactly how you feel about not "buying into" the pregnancy yet. I am 19 weeks tomorrow, bump is huge, everyone knows and I'm feeling movement daily now - but it still doesn't feel real and I'm still scared to get excited. I won't relax until this baby is here. 20 week scan next week and I'm so scared about that. We're going to find the sex out this time (had a surprise with ds) as I think it might help me get my head round everything a bit if I know the sex - might make it all a bit more real.

oo00PIXIE00oo Tue 20-Nov-12 22:16:33

Another hand holder here polka try and get some rest - we all know that's easier said than done xx

lotsofcheese Wed 21-Nov-12 08:16:07

polka good luck for today, am crossing everything for you.

Jollyb Wed 21-Nov-12 08:23:24

Yes thinking of you Polka

pebspop Wed 21-Nov-12 09:34:36

Hope everything is ok polka i had a bit of bleeding for about a week early on and it was very worrying.

I am finding it difficult to 'buy into' this pregnancy as well. i am nearly 21 weeks but still haven't felt anything i can say was definatly the baby. i have an anterior placenta though which masks movements - thanks body! the people i have told at work are speaking like i am going on mat leave soon but i really can't believe that will happen yet.

i look pregnant - well i have a cute little bump so most people probably wouldn't notice but i think i do! just wish i could feel some movement to relax me a bit.

LittleSpade Wed 21-Nov-12 09:43:31

Hi all,

Totally missed the boat on wilde's stressful day - so glad that everything is ok and that you have an explanation for what's been going on...but bouldering what the hell were you thinking shock wink

Sending positive vibes to polka

I'm ok - still having some really tired and emotional days at 15+3

HJBeans Wed 21-Nov-12 11:01:03

Mind if i join you? Feels polite to say hello as I've been lurking around this thread on and off for months now and will be doing so more regularly now.

I've had two mcs this past year while trying for our first and am now 4w0d with pregnancy number 3. Both mcs were at 5/6 weeks, so this doesn't feel real to me and I suspect it won't at least until I'm past 6 weeks. Very comforting, though sad, to see many of you feel the same way.

HJBeans Wed 21-Nov-12 11:11:49

And having read back a few paged now, sending best thoughts to you polka. Know several people this has happened to and had it turn out fine - hope it will for you, too.

BraveLilBear Wed 21-Nov-12 12:04:40

Hey polka sorry I missed you yesterday afternoon - how are you doing today? Have you managed to get an appointment with EPU? Sending you every positive thought in the world.

Hi there HJ Beans sorry you join us but you're very welcome. And congratulations on your current pregnancy! Fx this one sticks.

I lost my last pg at 5 and a half weeks... And I just found out this morning that I'm pg again. Shocked and a little scared but the line was strong so I'm allowing myself the merest hint of excitement <eek>

Jollyb Wed 21-Nov-12 12:11:24

HJBeans hello and welcome. You'll be very welcome on this thread and am sure you'll find it a great source of support.

I'm in a very similar position to you. I'm 4+2 with pregnancy number 5. First resulted in DD and then had two very early losses and a blighted ovum at 8 weeks . I really don't hold out much hope for this one either but trying to stay positive (and trying to stay away from the sticks).

Good luck and sending you lots of strength. To get you through the next few weeks.

Polka2 Wed 21-Nov-12 12:30:13

Hi ladies thx for your kind thoughts, sadly bleeding got worse thru the night so am not very hopeful for a positive outcome, GP trying to arrange scan on fri when I'll be 6 wkssad life is a complete BIATCH not only does it take me nearly 5 yrs to conceive then i have a mmc and now this in 9 months, bloody body!

Welcome to bear and YEY for beanswink

BraveLilBear Wed 21-Nov-12 12:38:45

Oh Polka I'm so sorry to hear that sad you never know, there may still be hope. But I know it's going to be hard to cling on to that if things are getting worse. thanks

wilderumpus Wed 21-Nov-12 12:48:31

polka do you have any cramping chuck? if not it is a good sign, bleeding could be from a clot or cyst or something around the baby. fingers tightly crossed x

Polka2 Wed 21-Nov-12 12:53:12

Not cramping wilde but just a bit achy.

wilderumpus Wed 21-Nov-12 12:54:59

brave did you sneak in a BFP announcement?! congratulations! fingers crossed for you too smile

spade I wasn't bouldering grin I was clambering up a hill with, ahem, boulders. I know, I know but in my defense I am normally a very active person and had a burst of energy and love for being in the wild outdoors and a funny little 2 year old who needed a climb too! I won't do it again now I know it means trouble smile

welcome beans sorry for your loss, and good luck!

ah guys, I totally know what you mean about buying into your pgs. I am into mine hook, line and sinker now though. Bizarrely, after thinking I was going to lose my urchin the other day and starting that grieving process it made me realise how attached I was, really. I am openly smitten now.

thinking of you polka

BraveLilBear Wed 21-Nov-12 13:36:36

wilde maybe smile

Didn't want to be whatever the opposite of a buzzkill is by glossing over bad news with something that is a bit happier... Thank you for the crossed fingers. Am slightly scared tbh. But will hope and be as positive as possible.

So glad you're finally bought in smile let's hope you can start to enjoy it a bit more now and the little urchin behaves grin

tasmaniandevilchaser Wed 21-Nov-12 13:48:17

Polka don't give up hope completely, hope Friday's scan brings good news.

Brave, ooh! Congrats! This is proving a lucky thread for bfps.

Hi beans, hope this bean is a sticky one for you.

I know what you all mean about not investing in the pg, I'm in a weird place, half way between loving my bean bump and not being able to properly engage with the pg. the bump is getting v noticeable, when I turn up at work after a month off sick, I'm going to raise some eyebrows!

I just got a txt from a friend congratulating me on my pg. a mutual friend told her and I feel a bit weird about it. I didn't specifically tell the mutual friend not to tell anyone, but with the last 2 she knew quite early and I remember her being quite discreet. I suppose I am 16 wks now. I just feel a bit weird. I haven't even told work yet as I've been off for so long. Am I being silly? I just can't quite face telling people. I told this particular friend after the dating scan as she had asked if I was ok, as I had seemed a bit off lately. I had been off as I'd been so stressed and under the weather and I wanted to explain. Anyway, what do you all think?

wilderumpus Wed 21-Nov-12 13:59:35

fingers crossed polka. how are you doing now? are you at home resting x

wilderumpus Wed 21-Nov-12 14:03:30

tas I am starting to wish everyone wasn't being so discreet grin Everyone is being all tight lipped and asking every so often on text if I am 'ok'. I just want them to chill now and be like, yeah whatevs is just Wilde being pg! How BANAL. so am the total opposite smile <no help> !

does seem a bit like you expected your friend to be more discreet but if you didn't SAY keep it a secret then... hmmm. hmm.

Polka2 Wed 21-Nov-12 16:26:14

Yup I've just slept by the fire most of the day and DH has been amazing tho he's still very hopeful even when I'm sure it's curtains. S'pose only time/scan will tellsad

wilderumpus Wed 21-Nov-12 18:15:18

glad you have rested up. keep doing that. Hope the bleeding is easing off and will be thinking of you on friday thanks

Jollyb Wed 21-Nov-12 18:46:35

polka . Fingers crossed for Friday. Don't give up hope. I've several friends who have bled quite heavily in early pregnancy with a good outcome. Worrying times.sad

brave missed your BFP announcement there. Many congrats. A strong line - I want one of those!

What a roller coaster week it's been on this thread.

Thinking of you polka xx

Great news bear and beans!!
Hope the bleeding stops soon polka - we're all rooting for you thanks

Dorita75 Thu 22-Nov-12 08:59:54

Thinking of you today polka and good news later.

Congrats on BFPs ladies!

BraveLilBear Thu 22-Nov-12 09:21:44

Thanks Yikes and Jolly - caved and bought some CBDigital last night, got a 2-3 weeks this morning. Plenty still to worry about, but that was a little reassuring. Fx you're line gets dark soon Jolly

Still thinking of you Polka - keep resting up. Sending positive thoughts...

HJBeans Thu 22-Nov-12 09:28:17

Thanks for the warm welcome, ladies. My longer and more personal thanks was just eaten by an ill-timed computer shutdown - grrrr!

Still thinking of you polka. The days waiting for a scan when worrying symptoms are there are really rotten and I hope you're being as gentle as you can be to yourself during the wait.

Jollyb Thu 22-Nov-12 09:35:14

Great news brave. I'm trying to resist doing another digi until the weekend. I did one a couple of days ago and got a 1-2. I was only 4+1 then so not unexpected but it would have been damn nice to get a 2-3!! The 'pregnant' bit came up very quickly though. Fortunately work's been a bit crazy and so helping to keep me sane.

polka how are you this am? It's lovely that your DH is being positive and supportive. My DP has gone the other way in that he almost refuses to talk about the fact that I might be pregnant. I think he's trying to protect me this way but I could do with him being a little more positive.

BraveLilBear Thu 22-Nov-12 09:47:31

Jollyb everything crossed for you, waiting as long as possible is probably wise. I have resolved to not test again until Sunday at the earliest, maybe even Monday. Glad that work is being useful <shock>

Sorry your DP is playing things down. Like you say, he probably is being protective, but it just seems so harsh. Mine on the other hand is going in the opposite direction - we almost had a row last night bout the fact that I don't want to tell my family until after a scan. He implied that he'd be telling his family before Christmas, which freaks me out a bit. He's saying I should be more positive.

I think some OH's are simply better at handling this pregnancy lark than others. Bless em. Keep us posted Jolly

cogitosum Thu 22-Nov-12 18:52:12

polka I hope it all goes well tomorrow. Will be thinking of you and xf

Jolly I'd say keep away from the CBDs but I'd be an enormous hypocrite! But the other excellent advice you gave was 'today you are pregnant' and I'll repeat that smile
My DH was like that but has suddenly switched and is now very sweet and into it again which is good. He didn't really believe it until I'd been to GP even though i told him that they don't actually do anything (eg test!)

My boobs are not hurting as much which is naturally terrifying me! I'm going for an early scan next week... I've booked it at a time where if it's ok I'll be further along than I got last time (iyswim) but it's so tempting to get an earlier one as I'm officially over 7 weeks now

Slighty belated congrats to jolly and brave and beans! Hope I haven't missed anyone?

polka hope you are ok and tomorrow is ok.

cognito hope you can not worry too much between now and next week.

I am just waiting for AF to arrive due today/tomorrow and then we can back on with trying again!

Dorita75 Thu 22-Nov-12 21:28:59

Hope it comes soon mrshp Is your dp at home during OV next time? I'm excited about using CB digi ov sticks this month (sad I know!) but as it turns out, I'll probably be ov next Mon/Tues and my dp is having his sperm test next Weds and can't ahem, ejaculate, from 4 days before so looks like we'll miss it this month. I'm going to use the sticks anyway to check if they work or not, and we might catch a window over the weekend if I ov early...

jolly if your dp is like mine, he didn't like seeing me so upset, not just at time of mmc but the odd month when I react badly to another AF, and so doesn't talk about the situation much because he's trying to stop me being upset. This all came out in a heart to heart a few weeks ago. It's so important to talk isn't it otherwise you just assume all sorts!! Made us both feel better and agreed he needs to be a bit more chatty about it and I need to be bit less!! All good.

Thanks Dorita, yes DP is home all of December, not sure about January yet. If nothing happens this month, I might make appt at GP and see where we go from here. Did you say you are having some tests repeated at the moment? Hope your ov falls in nicely with the tests for your DH though.

Jollyb Thu 22-Nov-12 22:20:45

Evening ladies.

dorita - is there any chance your DH could move his test back? Could be very frustrating if you got a big smiley on one of his ''off' days.

Mrs HP you must be looking forward to seeing your DH. I hope he's been eating his weetabix.

I think I may need to have a word with DP. I know he's trying to protect me with his 'don't get your hopes up' attitude but it makes me feel like I'm in this alone and it will be my fault for being upset if this pregnancy goes wrong too. Having said this I don't think he ever showed much excitement when I was pregnant with DD.

polka will be thinking of you tomorrow x

Sorry if I have confused you btw - DH is here, he was just away for three out of the four weeks last month although he was at home in between each trip for a day or two if that makes sense. He tends to go away for a week about once a month usually, but sometimes they all seem to happen at once and then none for ages! He just was away right in the window of opportunity this time iyswim!

Dorita75 Fri 23-Nov-12 07:36:12

Yes Mrshp I had my blood test for fsh level redone, don't know result yet tho...polka we considered that but Liverpool women's hospital have been quick off the mark to get me booked in for a scan and appointment with fertility clinic in mid December so if dp waits we won't have his results in time for the appointment. It's frustrating but hopefully good for the longer term.

Never know tho, might just catch it this wkend and be pg by then-wouldn't that be nice!!

HJBeans Fri 23-Nov-12 10:25:03

Thinking of you today polka and hope it's good news.

A quick question on supplements: my new GP has prescribed high dose folic acid on hearing I'd had two m/cs and was on a drug for rheumatoid arthritis which could potentially interfere with folic acid uptake. I've not yet been taking prenatal vitamins, as I've read you should not take too much FA and all prenatals have an additional 400 mg. But then I keep reading about prenatal vitamins being very important. Has anyone here been on high dose FA and did you continue with ordinary prenatal vits as well? Cheers and hope this sort of question isn't misplaced on this thread.

Jollyb Fri 23-Nov-12 10:41:04

HJ - from what I understand high dose
frolic acid is 5mg and standard prenatal vits contain 0.4mg so I doubt the additional dose from the multivitamins is going to cause any harm. My Consultant was very pro multivits and so in your position I'd take both (though obviously seek proper advice if you are very concerned) .

mrshp and there I was imaging your DP was in the secret service!

dorita can see your dilemma. Think I would get on and do the sperm analysis. Let's hope you ov a bit early or late.

polka hope everything's ok today x

Polka2 Fri 23-Nov-12 13:24:01

Afternoon ladies, hope you're doing ok, apologies for not name checking.

Well scan confirmed my worse fears, no sac so it least looks like my body has done a good job in expelling it properly (clutching at silver linings) have to return on Sunday for 2nd bloods to confirm its not ectopicsad shitty Mother Nature needs to sort herself out after all these years of trying, to have lost 3 babies in ten months is a pretty sick joke. At least it's absolutely confirmed we can do it naturally, albeit slowly, so we're not going to have IVF.

cogitosum Fri 23-Nov-12 13:39:16

Really sorry Polka sad

Agree it's like a sick joke. Take care of yourself x

HJBeans Fri 23-Nov-12 14:10:03

Oh polka. sad Mother Nature is one screwed up and sadistic lady when she wants to be. I'm sorry this has happened to you. Take good care of yourself.

Thanks for the info jolly. thanks

BraveLilBear Fri 23-Nov-12 14:40:47

Oh Polka I'm really sorry to hear that sad It's just not fair at all. Please look after yourself and take care. Thinking of you thanks

tasmaniandevilchaser Fri 23-Nov-12 14:54:36

sad polka, so sorry to hear that. 3 in 10 months is a bit much, take good care of yourself.

LadyFlumpalot Fri 23-Nov-12 15:02:46

Very sorry to hear your news Polka sad

So sorry Polka sad

HJBeans I am on high dose of folic acid because I am diabetic, I also take a the pregnacare conception (and DH is taking the male version). jolly is right, the amount in the multi-vit is negligble (sp?) in comparision. The reason they say about not taking a multi-vitamin I think is that if you take one that isn't for conception or pregnancy they can contain vitamin A and you aren't supposed to take a multi-vitamin pill with vit A in when pregnant (and therefore probably ttc).

wilderumpus Fri 23-Nov-12 16:21:08

oh polka I am so so sorry to hear your news thanks take care of yourself and whenever you need to vent or cry, come here and we will do our best to look after you x

lurcherlover Fri 23-Nov-12 16:39:09

I'm so sorry, polka. Thinking of you tonight.

Jollyb Fri 23-Nov-12 16:55:37

So sorry polka

lotsofcheese Fri 23-Nov-12 17:05:39

Oh Polka I'm so, so sorry. 3 miscarriages in 10 months is hellish & unfair. Whenever I think of my miscarriages, the only word which sums it up is "shite".

leedy Fri 23-Nov-12 17:38:07

Hi folks,

I haven't posted here in a long time, but this thread was an absolute lifesaver for me after my m/c, ttc, and the early months of my pregnancy. Anyway, just thought I'd let you know that I am another THREAD GRADUATE: my beautiful little boy is snoozing away beside me on a cushion, born last week. Lots of love and luck to all of you!

Leedy xxxxx

Jollyb Fri 23-Nov-12 19:54:18

leedy many congratulations. As an undergraduate, hearing news like that gives me hope and the will to keep going with this TTC/ pregnancy business.
Enjoy your newborn cuddles.

leedy - fabulous news!! So thrilled for you. grin
Aww, polka, I'm so sorry to hear your news. Look after yourself and don't give up hope. thanks

Dorita75 Fri 23-Nov-12 22:22:34

I'm so so sorry polka does this mean they'll investigate why the mcs happen now? Not that there seems to be any rhyme or season but at least they look into it after 3 I think? Take care of yourselves xx

tasmaniandevilchaser Fri 23-Nov-12 22:41:32

Hi Leeds, i remember you from before, congrats so happy to hear your lovely news, it gives me hope it's all worth it in the end. smile

leedy many many congratulations xx

polka I'm so so sorry you're going through this again sad take care xx

Jollyb Sat 24-Nov-12 10:16:17

2-3 on a digi this am - hurrah! a big thing for me as with my last miscarriage it took ages to get a 2-3 and then it went straight back down to 1-2 the following day.

Hope everyone's ok . I'm starting my Xmas shopping today . I've been in the shopping centre 10 mins and already sat down for a coffee . . .

polka hope you're ok. I think you should stay by the fire today. Pretty horrid out x

oo00PIXIE00oo Sat 24-Nov-12 12:11:50

Well done jolly x

Soo sorry polka big hugs to you xx

I think we have missed our day DTD this month sad

Dorita75 Sat 24-Nov-12 13:13:40

Well done Leedy wonderful and inspiring news! And jolly How exciting! And needing a sit down already, so tiring being pg eh? [Grin] We're in Wales for the wkend and I'm sitting looking out at hills with a cuppa hoping we made a baby this morning, fingers crossed! Enjoy the rest of your shopping day. Hi to everyone else!

Polka2 Sat 24-Nov-12 13:26:15

leedy what great news congratulations, enjoy every minute it gives us all hope to hear of the graduateswink

jolly did venture out but now on the sofa as feeling a little flaky!

No I've only (!) miscarried twice but the first mmc was twins, so no investigations but an contemplating going private.

Enjoy your weekend ladies wink

lotsofcheese Sat 24-Nov-12 18:32:39

Dorita that sounds idyllic - a Welsh conception would be lovely!

Jolly that's great about the CBD - hopefully reassuring for you.

I've had a bit of a crappy 24 hours. Not felt much movement during this time & convinced myself it's a late mmc. Think I've felt a little in the last hour or so - I hope.

Got my amnio next Monday & at least that will mean another scan. I don't think you ever get over a m/c, especially mmc & my mind is doing overtime.

Off to do some more stomach prodding...

cheese if you're not sure, I can't remember how many weeks you are. Can you call the hopsital to get it checked out if you are worried at all?

lurcherlover Sat 24-Nov-12 20:43:55

I have exactly the same thing cheese - am 19+3 and when I don't feel movement for a day I really worry, even though I know that until 28 weeks they're not expected to be regular. There was a thread on the pregnancy forum a couple of weeks ago from someone who was 19 weeks and had been feeling daily movement, but then nothing for an entire week. The mw listened in and all was fine. I'm trying to take comfort from that.

lotsofcheese Sat 24-Nov-12 22:18:09

Thanks for your advice, ladies. On a rational level, I know it's likely the baby has moved position, anterior placenta etc. Plus I'm only 15 weeks. Feeling a bit calmer now.

oo00PIXIE00oo Sat 24-Nov-12 23:38:36

Ladies when I had my dd she was feet first breech so didn't feel much movement - mw told me if I was worried drink a cup of hot chocolate - that did the trick - just don't do it just before bedtime lol x

Jollyb Sun 25-Nov-12 11:03:27

Cheese - glad you're feeling calmer. 15 weeks is too early to expect a regular pattern of movements. . I don't think kick counting is recommended until around 28 weeks. I didn't get regular movements with DD until around 24 weeks (anterior placenta). Fortunately this was pre MCs and I was a chilled pregnant woman then!

dorita where are you staying in Wales? Hope you're not too windswept.

Polka2 Sun 25-Nov-12 21:03:46

Cheese so glad you're feeling re assured wink

pebspop Mon 26-Nov-12 10:07:34

Sorry to hear your news polka are you trying for your first? I would definatley have a look into private testing. I think it's about £1k for Raj Rai to do all the tests. He runs a private clinic on Harley St on wednesday mornings. I went to see him earlier this year and he was lovely. He will give you confidence to carry on. I think £1k is worth paying for avoiding the heartache of another mc.

cheese i can't feel movements at 21 weeks sad i have anterior plancenta though). i am trying to feel confident in the pregnancy by seeing my bump is growing and it seems to change throughout the day so i hope that is due to the baby changing position. My midwife is coming to listen in on wednesday morning so i am crossing my fingers everything is ok.

BraveLilBear Mon 26-Nov-12 10:09:46

Great news jolly a 2-3 feels amazing, doesn't it? Fx for the 3+ in a week or so!

Interestingly, I did some research the other day <yawn> and it said that the ranges were 10-200 =1-2 weeks, 200-20000 (yes, 20k) 2-3 weeks and 20000+ was 3+ weeks. If you get a 2-3 but you only have 200, and if you exactly doubled every day you would only hit 20000 on day 8 (but, as, I think the exact definition is something like 70% increase over two days which is slightly less than doubling) it can take a couple of extra days to hit the magic 20000.

Just thought I'd throw that in there for anyone liable to panic - hence, I'm not waiting til Thurs to check mine again. That is a week since 2-3, but the 2-3 was at 17dpo, so should be realistic.

Glad you're feeling calmer cheese fx you'll get some positive signs again soon to top up the reassurance meter.

Very jealous of all the exotic travelling at the weekend - Wales and shopping centres? I managed a trip to a nearby field at dusk on Saturday for a spot of geocaching. Glamourous, it wasn't.

Congrats to Leedy grin

Hey Polka <waves> how are you feeling today?

HJBeans Mon 26-Nov-12 12:07:24

Afternoon, ladies. Having a bit of a wobbly day here as I'm feeling much less sick and sore than I have been. Know that symptoms come and go and there's nothing for it but to wait it out, but really struck how variable my mood is.

Yesterday I got a 2-3 on the CB test and was thinking how much more pregnant I felt than in the previous two pregnancies even though I'm a week earlier than when I miscarried them. Was feeling really confident and with a hunch this one was going to last.

Today, apropos of nothing, I'm not feeling pregnant at all, really, and am certain this will end like the others did. Trying very hard to ignore the mental back and forth as it does no good at all, but very trick not to think about it.

Anyone else having mad mental see-saw action going on?

pebspop Mon 26-Nov-12 12:23:48

i think we are all on an emotional rollercoaster HJ. you are not alone!

It's a bloody nightmare isn't it. some of the ladies who are near term are still panicking.

BraveLilBear Mon 26-Nov-12 12:45:21

HJ You're definitely not alone! It is a very mentally challenging time.

Me and the OH had a mini-bust-up yesterday because I was looking into getting a private reassurance scan at about 8 weeks. He said it was a waste of money and that I should wait like everybody else. Also said that I should be more positive instead of dwelling on everything that could go wrong.

Eventually he conceded that the reason I am worrying is because 'I don't feel pregnant yet' - he thinks my booking appt will magically cure all my fears!

I don't necessarily agree but I'm trying to be as positive as possible. Felt sick all day Saturday and Sunday, was wretching from the smell of bleach while I cooked dinner last night, but today I don't feel sick at all. This is a bit scary. But for the moment at least I'm choosing to see it in the best possible light.

Ie I don't feel sick today, must be my body's getting used to all the hormones. And 'I'm so lucky I feel energised and not too fatigued right now'

Easier said than done, and I'm still wobbling and secretly googling 'benefits of private scan but I do feel ever so slightly more positive.

Hope you can find some positives soon xxx

textbook Mon 26-Nov-12 13:13:59

Hello all... mind if I join you? I had an mmc discovered at 12wk scan last week, and miscarried at home on Saturday. It was utterly awful, and I am full of sympathy for everyone who has had to go though this sad. MN has been so helpful over the last week - even just reading other people's posts and knowing I wasn't alone...

Had scan today at EPAU and everything is clear, so am hoping to try again soonish. How long did everyone here wait before trying? I didn't expect to feel so strongly about it, but I'm desperate to get going if I'm honest!

pebspop Mon 26-Nov-12 13:47:47

text sorry to hear about your mc. i waited for my first af but i know a lot of ladies get pg without having af. it makes dating a bit more complicated but other than that it should be ok. tbh i have always needed the break.

Dorita75 Mon 26-Nov-12 13:54:47

Welcome textbook I'm so sorry you've gone through this as well and hope you're feeling a little bit better - I felt that once the 'physical' side of the mmc was over, I could just be sad and work on feeling better. As for when to start, I'd go with whenever you feel ready. They say to wait so a quick pregnancy can be dated but to be honest, that can be sorted out within a few weeks anyway.

We had a lovely weekend away, were staying near Portmeirion. jolly I got my smiley face on the CB digi ovulation kit this morning! It's crap timing because DP's sperm test is Wednesday so we definately can't dtd, but I'm made up that the test has worked so I'll know for next month. And, you never know, sperm's meant to hang around for up to 5 days so could be okay, fingers crossed.

I just want to say I'm thinking of all the metallers worrying over symptoms or lack of, as pebs says, metal is a normal state of mind right from the off so I just hope you manage to relax a bit and get reassurance from other ladies on here who have proven that babies do happen for us xx

HJBeans Mon 26-Nov-12 14:33:28

Know one should never wade in on either side of a domestic riff, but ive read of studies which show frequent check-ups and 'tender loving care' by medical professionals does actually seem to improve pregnancy outcomes among women with recurrent miscarriage, so I'd say you're well supported by science when it comes to wanting a reassurance scan, brave.

I read about this study in a book, called Coming to Term, on recurrent m/c by a science journalist whose wife had three or four (before going on to have two healthy kids). It's a fantastic book, I think, because it goes rigorously through the evidence about what we do and don't know about m/c and m/c treatments while still being very human and engaged with the non-scientific aspects.

Made me feel loads better after my second just to have a clear understanding of the facts - and one of them was that, perhaps strangely, lots of reassurance is at least as effective as medical treatments for m/c. Another was that the odds are very much in our favour for having successful pregnancies this time, and if not now then in future pregnancies.

Welcome text and sorry to hear of your loss. I didn't wait specifically after my first m/c and i got pg again on the second cycle. Did take a break after the second so that we could see a consultant. Honestly, I don't think I'd have wanted the anxiety and bodily looniness of being pregnant so soon that time. Best of luck whatever you decide.

HJBeans Mon 26-Nov-12 14:35:08

Meant to say thanks, pebs and dorita for the reassuring words. smile

textbook Mon 26-Nov-12 15:17:31

Thanks pebs dorita and HJ for the welcome smile

I do feel much better knowing that its all over, if you know what I mean. The wait was awful between the 1st scan and the mc, but I feel much less crazy and more pragmatic now.

I'm definitely hoping to have an early scan if/when I'm pg again - asked at EPAU today and they said I couldn't have one on the NHS, so I'm probably going to go private as I know I'll be worrying which surely can't be healthy. As if pregnancy wasn't stressful enough already...

BraveLilBear Mon 26-Nov-12 15:22:58

Thanks HJ that sounds like a really interesting read. Although I may have overblown the tiff somewhat blush is it too soon to blame pg hormones?

Hi textbook sorry you find yourself here, but pull up a pew. I had an early mc/chemical at 5+2 so was encouraged by GP to get back int eh swing of trying straightaway. Amazingly, I've caught again first time <apologies for annoying luck> - word is that you're more fertile after a mc for a couple of months so if you wanted to wait for a real period for dating purposes, you should still be able to benefit from that boost...

LittleSpade Mon 26-Nov-12 16:06:07

Arrrgh have had to put the metal jacket on ladies! I have just had to announce that i'm pregnant in an email to the parish council that i'm a councillor on! They want to change the date of a key meeting that i'm hugely involved in (both the preparation and on the day) from Jan until late Apr and i needed to say why without being too weird and mysterious or just coming across as throwing a tantrum and being unhelpful just cos they were going to change the date. Argh so scary actually writing it down, and to people who I generally only consider myself to sort of work with, especially as we've not even told in person many of our closest friends yet!

Just have to keep reminding myself that i had my 16 wk mw appointment this morning and she listened to the HB and all was well - even said she heard the baby kick the doppler away.

Welcome to the newbies. I waited before ttc again after my first mc which was a mmc at 12 weeks as i had to have the ERPC op and just didn't feel physically or mentally up to again for a few months and it took a while for my cycles to settle but after my second mc at 5-6 weeks we tried again straight away and here i got pregnant again straight away and here i am at 16 wks (argh!). I had two early scans during this pregnancy privately for reassurance and to help get my dates sorted out so that i could be more confident of having the 12 week scan in the necessary window to enable them to do the combined test.

Jollyb Mon 26-Nov-12 17:35:47

Hello all.

A big welcome to textbook. I'm sure you'll find this thread very helpful. Don't feel surprised if you feel completely drained for the next few weeks and please allow yourself to wallow and be upset. MCs are crap.

As for when to get going again. I think DP and I started as soon as the bleeding stopped. Couldn't bring myself to use contraception.

I've had a metalling weekend too. After the delight of getting a 2-3 on sat I had lots of stomach cramps yesterday evening. I then had a bout of nasty diarrhoea which I'm sure was the cause but I couldn't help bracing for the worst.

I'm 5 weeks today and so I plucked up the courage to phone my consultant's secretary so that I can be booked for an early scan. Bit worried as o've just heard that it will be next Monday when I'll only be 6 weeks exactly. I phoned back to question this as I really don't want to go through the stress of having a scan and not seeing much and being left in limbo. Was told that the consultant wanted it then and so be it! Ho hum.

dorita must be encouraging to know that your sticks work but what frustrating timing!

textbook Mon 26-Nov-12 19:04:35

Thanks everyone for making me feel so welcome. It is crap Jollyb, you are totally right, and I've been working from home watching DVD's on the sofa for the last week which seems to be helping. I just couldn't face going into the office, and tbh am dreading going back, even though most people won't know why I've been off.

Also, tis very heartening to hear that so many of you have been able to conceive so quickly after, and are doing so well! Hopefully the good luck will rub off - I also don't think I can face contraception, so I think we will just see what happens when I'm feeling better grin.

tasmaniandevilchaser Mon 26-Nov-12 19:21:07

Hi all, and a big hi and hug for textbook, I had a mmc discovered at the 12 wk scan a year ago, I really sympathise. It's a horrible experience. Hope you can take hope that I'm pg now and it all seems to be ok at 17 wks.

Hi to everyone else

Brave can you ask your Epau for a reassurance scan? I had one at 10 wks. Though I personally think peace of mind is worth paying for, my DH is very understanding that I'm the one with the majority of the stress hanging over me and is happy for us to pay for private scan wheni start metalling. Anyway, hope you're feeling better.

Polka2 Mon 26-Nov-12 19:48:06

Evening ladies, had my first day back at work, some of my colleagues know about my mc last week and have been really kind, feel ok just about wobbly headed blush

Welcome text I too suffered a mmc at 12weeks in jan, its certainly a roller coaster but off you feel up to it I'd jump back on the wagon! I found reflexology and acupuncture really helped me with the hormonal craziness after itwink

Polka2 Mon 26-Nov-12 19:48:46

Not 'about' wobbly headed but a bit!! Bloody phone!blush

Welcome to the thread, textbook. I had a mmc in May at 7 weeks, discovered at 9 weeks, and I felt exactly the same as you. Just wanted to get pregnant again as soon as possible. We started trying straight away - midwives at the hospital said to wait until after I'd had my first period, but my own midwife said that wasn't necessary and that they only say that for dating purposes. As it turned out, my period did arrive, but we conceived that second month and I'm now 25+3 today. It's been a tough road and I can't say I've enjoyed this pregnancy (and I'm really not enjoying it at the moment, whinge, moan etc) but I'm starting to believe that I will have my wee baby in 3 months' time. It's only just over 2 weeks until my due date would have been, and I'm feeling a bit wobbly about it, but I just have to focus on my wriggly tum. I hope things work out for you as well as they have for me. x

lotsofcheese Mon 26-Nov-12 20:01:33

Another welcome to textbook from me! Miscarriages are shite, but a MMC is especially cruel; I had one at 11.5 weeks & would never have known had it not been for a scan. Take care of yourself & take as much time as you need to recover.

Brave my DP & I had a similar argument when I was around 8 weeks - he said I was unnecessarily negative about the pregnancy - I think for me it was just a self-defence mechanism.

Jolly I'm sorry you're not entitled to an early scan - it's such a shame EPAU's vary so much in policy. I was entitled to one at 8 weeks, due to a previous molar pregnancy - but got another (against the rules!) because of the mmc (it was one of their criteria). I would happily have paid for these. Just for the peace of mind - although I was a wreck again within 2-3 days!!

I'm getting more movements today - bubba must have shifted, so that's reassuring. I also had to confess to my boss as I need time off work next week for an amnio & consultant appointment. Still feel weird about telling people - just don't feel ready - maybe I'll feel a bit better after the amnio & 20 week scan....

Someone asked up thread about a scan at 6 weeks - I know that in the clinic where I work, they are given at this stage & called viability scan, so I think it might reassure you, hopefully.

Sorry if I've not name-checked everyone. Hope the metalling/rollercoaster ladies are holding together ok! Xxx

Jollyb Mon 26-Nov-12 20:26:15

cheese - I am allowed an early scan - it was me wondering whether 6+0 was too early. I have emailed my consultant to check but reassuring to hear that they do them at 6 weeks where you work.

lotsofcheese Mon 26-Nov-12 22:18:24

Sorry jolly got confused! Trying to catch up on thread & got muddled up. Yes, these scans are given routinely in the obstetric clinic for certain groups of patients. Hopefully they will offer further ones too, so you can get your confidence.

lurcherlover Mon 26-Nov-12 22:49:23

jolly I had a 6 week scan. Couldn't see much - just a blob - but there was a definite flicker which was the heartbeat.

textbook, welcome to the thread. We're sorry your experience led you to find us, but glad that you did find us, if you see what I mean...this thread has been a real lifeline for me. I had a mmc too and also found out at the dating scan, in May. It is such a shitty thing to go through and so cruel as you have no warning nothing is wrong. I was told to wait for one normal cycle following the erpc just to make sure that any traces of tissue would be passed with my next period, but I have read it's not harmful to get pg straight away. As it happened, we were going on holiday a couple of weeks after the mc and I decided as I wasn't pregnant I was going to enjoy some wine without worrying I might be in the early stages of another pregnancy, so I was OK with waiting that one cycle. The cycle after that was weirdly long, but I conceived in it (ovulated on something ridiculous like day 26!) and I'm now 19+5 in what is, touch wood, a healthy pregnancy. So there is every chance that this was just one, horrible experience in your life and that your next pregnancy will be successful.

Hand-holding for me please ladies - anomaly scan tomorrow and feeling very nervous about it...

HJBeans Tue 27-Nov-12 05:17:13

Best of luck with your scan lurcher. smile

textbook Tue 27-Nov-12 09:03:21

Thanks Lurcher for your kind words and reassurance - and sorry that you've been through this too sad

However... big congrats on your pregnancy, and hand-holding offered for your scan today. Good luck!

pebspop Tue 27-Nov-12 09:39:58

Good luck for today lurcher. That will be a big hurdle to get over.

BraveLilBear Tue 27-Nov-12 10:05:21

Fx for you today lurcher... sending positive thoughts.

lurcherlover Tue 27-Nov-12 16:41:16

Just a quickie for me to say that the scan was fine! Low-lying placenta so I've got to go back for another one at 34 weeks to see if it's moved up or not, and if not it will be an automatic CS - but I am probably going to have a CS anyway after having had a shoulder dystocia with ds' birth (am at increased risk of that happening again) so it's immaterial really.

It's a girl! I am so shocked - I really thought it was going to be ds2! Have been feeling really excited all afternoon - first time in this pregnancy I've let myself get a bit giddy.

BraveLilBear Tue 27-Nov-12 16:59:54

Yay great news Lurcher and a girl too! Full set on its way grin

So pleased it went well - and that you're now letting yourself get excited grin

Jollyb Tue 27-Nov-12 17:04:56

Fantastic news Lurcher. smile

textbook Tue 27-Nov-12 17:39:43

Great news lurcher smile

lotsofcheese Tue 27-Nov-12 17:43:43

That's brilliant news Lurcher! So happy for you!! Xxx

Dorita75 Tue 27-Nov-12 18:30:58

Congrats lurcher! Fab news smile

I had a second blood test to measure FSH levels as the first was quite high at 14.8 and second has come back at 5.6!! This is 'more than normal' in a good way according to my doc but will discuss at women's hospital when we go for fertility appointment next month. I'm so happy it's low even though I don't understand yet why it's so different. It means we have as much chance of conceiving as anyone else, my body's still young hurrah!!!

Congrats on your little girl lurcher! And good news, Dorita x

Dorita75 Tue 27-Nov-12 22:21:08

Thanks backwardpossum I hope you're ok over the next few wks, hopefully it'll pass calmly and you'll get lots of kicks to remind you of the wonderful little one waiting to meet yousmile x

pebspop Wed 28-Nov-12 10:40:00

glad to hear your news lurcher - a girl!!

midwife came this morning and i heard the heartbeat again. it took her a while to find it so it was a bit stressful but luckily we got there in the end.

Jollyb Wed 28-Nov-12 13:43:15

Having a mini metal. Made the mistake or wearing pale knickers and am not sure whether I've been spotting'. Was on the verge of deferring my scan on Monday but think I'll keep it now. One minute feeling so positive and the next - here we go again. . . .

Jollyb Wed 28-Nov-12 13:45:17

dorita really good news on your blood result. Hope your DH didn't have any ahem performance issues today!

pebs must have been very stressful but glad all well in the end.

BraveLilBear Wed 28-Nov-12 15:16:40

grin at lots of good news everyone!

JollyB why you thinking of deferring? If it was me, I'd be up for it no matter when it was (even though it's early) - surely if it's too early to see something, they'd get you back anyway?

And, in a bid to at least make you smile... Pale knickers. If you are spotting, least you'll know?!? lame attempt, sorry If you were here I'd lend you a pantyliner. But altho you may be, very secretly, and we'd never be the wiser I'm guessing you're not.

Could you borrow a liner off someone at work?

Jollyb Wed 28-Nov-12 15:26:45

brave I wanted to defer as I thought 6 +0 was too early to guarantee seeing a HB (even if pregnancy was fine). 7 weeks seemed a better option to me . I didn't want to be in limbo with an inconclusive scan.

Unfortunately my fears have been confirmed. Definitely having brown discharge. Arghhh. I was feeling so much more positive about this pregnancy too. sad

BraveLilBear Wed 28-Nov-12 16:45:58

Hey Jolly hang on in there. Totally understand not wanting to be in limbo, but surely they'd get you back pronto if there was nothing obvious.

Re the spotting - don't panic. Can you call your consultant? Doesn't mean you're out, could be just one of those things - I know we have an auto switch to 'disaster' mode when these things happen but you're not out yet.

We're here for you...

dorita I am so pleased for you with those results, and secretly a bit relieved for you too - can I say that now?!

jollyb big hug, hang in there, you never know with these things. Try to rest and relax if you can.

tasmaniandevilchaser Wed 28-Nov-12 18:12:14

Hi all, dorita wow! That's brilliant news on the fsh, 5.4- you have the eggs of a teenager!

jolly don't lose hope, spotting is very common, have you spoken to your Epau?

Hi to everyone else, hope you're doing ok

tasmaniandevilchaser Wed 28-Nov-12 18:14:37

Sorry forgot to say congrats to lurcher! Great news. Shoulder dystocia sounds horrible, a friend of mine had it.

lotsofcheese Wed 28-Nov-12 18:19:59

Great news Dorita about your FSH!

Jolly I'm sending you big hugs & crossing everything for you. Plus positive vibes too xxx

Jollyb Wed 28-Nov-12 18:26:36

Thanks all. Feeling a bit better now. In a fit of despair I used my last remaining digi and 3+ came up quickly which has reassured me slightly.

I haven't contacted my EPU yet as will be there at 9am on Monday morning. I will if I get any pain or feel unwell.

Hang in there Jolly xx

Sending lots positive vibes your way jolly! These things are sent to test us but be strong! xx

lurcherlover Wed 28-Nov-12 19:45:16

Hang in there jolly. They can at least do your hcg levels to see if they're rising. Everything crossed for you xx

wilderumpus Wed 28-Nov-12 19:54:05

hey all

sorry been quiet, you fell off my thread thingy! textbook welcome and I hope you concieve again very soon! we started trying straight away and got pg on the third cycle.

jolly brown blood is fine at this stage isn't it - probably implantation? Any cramping? has it gone now? hope you are ok thanks

lurcher congrats on your girlie! wow! smile I have a low lying placenta too which is why I spot all the time. Am really lazy now and have to amble everywhere instead of my usual speedwalking! It partially covers my cervix, but as I am 16 weeks I hope it will shift - the 20 week scan will tell... eek.

Had my 16 wk MW appt yesterday and heard the heartbeat. It was lovely! Am starting to relax a bit more all the time. She also booked me in for a 24 week appt even tho as a second timer I would normally wait until 28 weeks. that was very kind.

yay for hearing the HB again pebs. Taking a while to find them is a bit of a bugger isn't it. Mine asked if her student could have a go first and I hesitated for so long that she didn't in the end!

hope everyone is well <waves> to anyone I missed in my hurry!

HJBeans Wed 28-Nov-12 21:09:44

Thinking of you jolly and hope this will turn out to be the oft heard about unexplained but harmless early pregnancy spotting. I'm sure we all know women who've bled during healthy pregnancies. It's always stressful and after previous m/c it's impossible not to think of the worst but there's no reason we can't be those women this time.

I'm finding comfort in CBD as well. Hit 5 weeks past LMP today and while i didnt get a 3+ yet, I quickly registered 2-3 so not going down yet. Will wait till Sunday (3 weeks from first positive) to try again. Doing terribly at not thinking about it till it's more secure. I'm past the gestational day I started spotting with my first m/c, with a week to go until I'm past the day for my 2nd m/c.

Congrats to all with happy scan/listening in news, good prompts for us early days folks to keep trying to think positively.

HJBeans Wed 28-Nov-12 21:14:42

Don't know if any of you are similarly science-minded or soothed by data, but I found this paper quite encouraging.

It looks at specific odds of healthy pregnancy following repeat unexplained miscarriage and it says a lot of encouraging things. My age and m/c history gives me a 3 in 4 chance of being fine this time, and once past 8 weeks odds go up loads. Won't make the next 3 weeks much easier but still nice for me to see proper science saying there's every reason not to assume the worst.

lurcherlover Wed 28-Nov-12 21:35:19

Ladies, as I'm feeling brave post-scan I've decided to relinquish my stash of ttc odds and ends. I have lots of ic ov tests, some ic preg tests and a tesco preg test (test still sealed but have thrown box and instructions away - but I'm sure we all know how to poas by now!) I will offer it all on the TTC board but thought I'd see if a fellow mosher would like it first. If anyone is interested, please PM your details and I will post them out to you (will be as discreet as you need! Let me know if you want me to write your name on the envelope, your username, or just address it to "mumsnet user", and if you want me to write Confidential on the envelope). Hoping it will bring someone some luck! First to PM me can have the lot x

Dorita75 Wed 28-Nov-12 22:15:14

Thanks everyone, I'm so relieved (so you're allowed to say that too mrshp grin and DP was fine today jolly, so funny though and he managed to get the ahem, sample to the hospital within half an hour smile

Doesn't brown blood mean old blood, nothing to worry about? Easier said that done I know but fingers crossed it's nothing.

I'm just watching One Born What happened next, not sure I'm in the mood for this though...might just go to bed and have a read!

Take care beans and great news wilde and pebs on hearing your heartbeats!! Hi to everyone else, so many of us, too many f--or my brain to remember-- mention.

Dorita75 Wed 28-Nov-12 22:16:17

See, I can't even do the strikethrough thing!!!

lotsofcheese Thu 29-Nov-12 08:14:45

Jolly how are things today? Crossing everything for you x

LadyFlumpalot Thu 29-Nov-12 08:27:57

Thinking of you Jolly. Fingers crossed for you. (((Hugs)))

I need some advice please ladies.

The EPU called me yesterday and said that I need to do a pregnancy test, to make sure it comes back negative. The lady said if it positive it might mean there is something left whine and they will need to see me.

Problem is, OH and I have been DTD since the bleeding stopped, and assuming the first day of bleeding was the beginning of a new cycle, I am now in the window for a sensitive test to show positive if I were pregnant.

If I show up positive, I will have to go in, and they will want to do a D and C but they might be getting rid of a new baby, but it will be far to soon to scan and see...

Sorry, that was a bit of a ramble!

LadyFlumpalot Thu 29-Nov-12 08:28:16

Whine? Behind!

Jollyb Thu 29-Nov-12 09:10:13

ladyf how many weeks were you when you MC? When I had a blighted ovum at 8 weeks it took about 4 weeks before I got a BFN.

If there is any chance that you could be newly pregnant they wouldn't rush to do an ERPC. They would be able to distinguish between the new and old Pregnancies by taking serial blood tests for bhcg.

I'm ok this am just thoroughly fed up. I'm still getting traces of brown blood on wiping but no cramps.

If this is another MC I will need to make some serious decisions about whether I can do this again. It would be my 4th within 1 year.

Enough woe from me. How is everyone else? smile

LadyFlumpalot Thu 29-Nov-12 09:26:48

Hi Jolly, I was 10+5 when I miscarried. I haven't done any tests yet as I didn't want to torture myself! I shall get OH to pick one up on the way home from work though and shall do one tonight.

I am hoping I am pregnant again, but I also want this test to show up negative!

Hugs for you Jolly, take it easy.

wilderumpus Thu 29-Nov-12 11:04:38

sounds positive jolly

lady when did you mc? I too had a blighted ovum but at 10 weeks and took weeks to get a negative. Do a test, it might soound weird but I was so happy to finally get my BFN and start trying again. ALSO a BFN means you will ov super soon smile obvs would be smashing if you are pg again smile

cogitosum Thu 29-Nov-12 11:30:39

Hope everything is ok for you jolly

lady if you mention that you've ttc to dr I'm sure they'd be able to check with beta hcg as jolly said.

I'm going for a scam tomorrow and so scared about it. I'm feeling ok generally but after mmc the idea of a scan brings me out in a cold sweat. Also been a bit crampy at points - not painful more twinges (nothing I'd take painkillers for) is that still normal at 7-8 weeks does anyone know?

LadyFlumpalot Thu 29-Nov-12 11:37:25

It was over the 11/12th November so not quite 3 weeks ago. I wish they had mentioned this at the time, we would have put off TTC for a month or two if so.

wilderumpus Thu 29-Nov-12 11:50:24

cog I think I was still a bit crampy around then, but don't forget we are ALL different! sounds good to me. Good luck at your scan, I hate and dread them with this post-mc pg too but so far they have been so nice and told me as soon as they have seen the baby and HB. Hope they look after you too.

lady that isn't very long ago, I wouldn't be suprised if you still got a faint positive. Do a test, see what you are dealing with and then take it from there? good luck, I hope you get the answer you want!

Jollyb Thu 29-Nov-12 12:40:00