The dreaded 2 week wait begins again!

(144 Posts)
babyjamesblackberrycrumble Mon 29-Oct-12 21:28:43

So here I am beginning the 2 week wait after MC the last 2 cycles. Lets hope it's 3rd time lucky for me! Anyone else about to start the count down ?

happylass Mon 29-Oct-12 21:45:53

So sorry to hear about the MCs babyjames. I too am just beginning the dreaded 2ww. OVd yesterday. TTC#1 and on cycle 2. Here's hoping for a fast and fruitful fortnight for us both!

babyjamesblackberrycrumble Tue 30-Oct-12 06:33:18

Thanks happy it's been a really tough time. Really hope it's good news for us both this time round.

Hi Ladies, hope you don't mind me joining in. I think I'm about 4-5dpo. I had a positive OPK last Wednesday and felt pains on my left side on Friday. Only on cycle 3, so still not sure of the signs and can't pinpoint ov exactly yet.

Really want it to happen this month, TTC#1 and if it happens this month it will be due on my 30th. I know its still early days tho. This TTW is killing me already.

Fingers Crossed for us all. xx

babyjamesblackberrycrumble Tue 30-Oct-12 17:10:36

Hi there Baker Bit fed up of living in 2 week blocks! I hate hate hate this waiting bit!

happylass Tue 30-Oct-12 19:10:53

Welcome baker <waves>
Does anyone know if the 2ww is exactly that - just 14 days??
Didn't have any periods whilst I was on the pill but before that my cycle varied from 25-28 days. Only had one proper cycle since stopping the pill and that was 27 days. If I OVd on cd 11 this time does that mean AF is due 14 days later on cd25? Or can I expect it on cd27 like last month? confused

25BeautifulGnomes Tue 30-Oct-12 20:39:59

I'm on it-again! Hate hate hate it! TTC #2, after 3 mc sad Please let this be my month!

whiterose2011 Tue 30-Oct-12 20:51:36

Good luck to you all. This will be me next month (just got AF after first mc) so will keep my fingers crossed for everyone. smile

babyjamesblackberrycrumble Tue 30-Oct-12 21:42:34

Hi Gnomes and Rose so sorry for your losses. MC is so terrible and sad sad I have not had a proper period for ages as got pregnant and MC last 2 cycles. My scan was clear and knowone said wait so we didn't. Not sure I would cope with another loss.
Happy I think most peoples lutual phase is about 12 - 14 days. I never get a positive test before 11 / 12 days past ovulation and I've done a fair few tests these last few months!
Think I need some distracting during the countdown!

25BeautifulGnomes Tue 30-Oct-12 22:17:21

Hi babyjames and white rose-yes it's awful sad so sorry to hear about your losses too. Fingers crossed we will all get there in the end smile I am desperately trying not to symptom spot but it's very hard.

I think my LP is 16 days happy

happylass Wed 31-Oct-12 07:21:34

Thanks all. So is the number of dpo more important than the number of days before AF is due for getting an accurate POAS result? Don't think I'll be able to wait until AF is actually late! When is everyone else POAS?

LauraSmurf Wed 31-Oct-12 07:47:03

Can I join in? My DH and I are TTC %232. This is our first cycle (in earnest anyway). It took us 2 years to conceive our DD. we were beginning preliminary IVF work and everything.

I'd forgotten (or purposefully blocked out) the hideous anxiety of the 2ww.

Fingers crossed, touch wood, god willing for all of us!

RaspberrysAndIcecream Wed 31-Oct-12 08:11:37

Morning ladies, please can I join u!!

I ov later this month so not to sure when af is due, day 27 of cycle, cycle us usually 32 ish days long so who knows. I don't think it's worked this cycle, I've been ill & I'm on antibiotics for a chest infection. If I can hold off then I won't poas until next weekend, but I doubt that's gonna happen!! I'll probably do it this weekend!! Lol!! grin
hope the wait goes quickly for u & there's a BFP at the end of it for u!!! grin

EchoDragon Wed 31-Oct-12 09:31:32

Hi ladies. I'm joining you on the 2ww. I need a bit of a slap am symptom spotting!
I know I shouldn't but 5 dpo am knackered and super hormonal! Crying one minute and fine the next. How early is too early to test? <eyes test hopefully>

Come on in echo the water is lovely.

I try not to symptom spot, I have IBS so gurgle down there all the time. but I have been feeling particularly bloated the past two days.

Damn, I hate the wait!

EchoDragon Wed 31-Oct-12 15:28:32

Ha I know what you mean baker am queen spotter! Only 10 more days for me sigh.

EchoDragon Wed 31-Oct-12 15:30:20

Gah autocorrect meant symptom.

babyjamesblackberrycrumble Wed 31-Oct-12 18:49:35

Hi everyone, waves to all.
Sorry for your loss whiterose
Well I'm not sure the exact date I hopefully ovulated but had a positive OPK last Thursday pm and its usually over the next few days. Trying to work out when to test. I'd like to wait until AF late but I know no chance of that! Should we do a list of testing dates?

happylass Wed 31-Oct-12 20:30:08

Hello all. Team 2ww seems to be growing by the hour! Not told anyone in RL that we are trying so it's really nice to have someone to chat to things about. DP is a typical bloke and completely clueless about all things TTC related!
A list is a great idea baby. Can I start? Feel free to copy, add and paste!

Happylass TTC #1, cycle 2 POAS around 12th November

babyjamesblackberrycrumble Thu 01-Nov-12 07:23:14

Happylass TTC #1, cycle 2 POAS around 12th November
BabyJames TTC #2, Cycle 8 (2 MC) POAS around 12th November

BraveLilBear Thu 01-Nov-12 11:33:52

Hello! I'm in the 2WW too (just about - am in a WTF cycle after early mc last month), may I please join the waiting room?

I'm TTC #1, will be POAS around Nov 15th. Last time was all pensive and excited and patiently waiting to test (waited til one day post AF!). Now I feel totally different and impatient and a bit scared of both results even though I really really want a BFP.

It's a crazy, crazy place TTC.

Let the symptom spotting commence! wink

Happylass TTC #1, cycle 2 POAS around 12th November
BabyJames TTC #2, Cycle 8 (2 MC) POAS around 12th November
BakerBaker TTC #1 Cycle 3 POAS 11th November.

Probably a silly question but can DTD disturb implantation?

babyjamesblackberrycrumble Thu 01-Nov-12 18:09:20

Hi there Bear so sorry for your loss. I knoe just what an emotional roller coaster it is after my BFP last 2 cycles followed my 2 MC. I just trying to think that BFP is one step closer to where I want to be! Very emotional journey!
Baker I have really no idea but would like to think not. Hope someone my be more knowledgeable than me!

littlepinkfizz Thu 01-Nov-12 20:53:02

Can I join? On 4th cycle post mmc in July . Got a smiley on opk on Friday last so think I ovulated on Saturday. AF due 10th.

Have a colony of spots on my chin but know its coincidental as you can't get symptoms til after implntation at 5-7 days ( never get spots normally).

Really hope this is our month x

littlepinkfizz Thu 01-Nov-12 20:55:36

Can I join? On 4th cycle post mmc in July . Got a smiley on opk on Friday last so think I ovulated on Saturday. AF due 10th.

Have a colony of spots on my chin but know its coincidental as you can't get symptoms til after implntation at 5-7 days ( never get spots normally).

Really hope this is our month x

Littlepinkfizz TTC#5 Cycle 4 post mmc POAS 10th November
Happylass TTC #1, cycle 2 POAS around 12th November
BabyJames TTC #2, Cycle 8 (2 MC) POAS around 12th November
BakerBaker TTC #1 Cycle 3 POAS 11th November.

happylass Fri 02-Nov-12 08:50:31

Sorry for your loss Bear fx for this cycle I've added you to the list - hope you don't mind. Hello to all those who've recently joined looks like there are a few of us testing around the same time. Lots of people to hold hands with! Any symptoms yet? Nothing here, not even any imaginary ones sad

Happylass TTC #1, cycle 2 POAS around 12th November
BabyJames TTC #2, Cycle 8 (2 MC) POAS around 12th November
BakerBaker TTC #1 Cycle 3 POAS 11th November.
Bear TTC #1 POAS around 15th Nov

BraveLilBear Fri 02-Nov-12 10:07:41

Thanks for the welcome Happy and BabyJames - so sorry for your losses, and yours Littlepinkfizz and WhiteRose sad

Seems so crazy unfair, doesn't it? Onwards and upwards though, eh? that sounds a bit too graphic

Well I very much like having hands to hold. Funnily enough I don't have the same desire to share my POAS habits with the rest of RL grin

LauraSmurf Fri 02-Nov-12 12:33:36

Hi, well I'm trying really hard not to symptom spot. BUT have been seriously emotional the past 2 days and have been off my favourite yoghurt. (v tenuous I know!)

It couldn't possibly be due to my mum staying for a week and a half and questioning my parenting of my dd.

Or down to the fact that my DD is teething massively, has a chest infection and keeps waking screaming with fear because she can't breathe.

No neither of these very stressful situations are why I am overly emotional and tired. It MUST be because I'm pregnant!!

happylass Fri 02-Nov-12 12:41:24

Sorry littlepinkfizz just noticed I left you off the last list!

Littlepinkfizz TTC#5 Cycle 4 post mmc POAS 10th November
Happylass TTC #1, cycle 2 POAS around 12th November
BabyJames TTC #2, Cycle 8 (2 MC) POAS around 12th November
BakerBaker TTC #1 Cycle 3 POAS 11th November.
Bear TTC #1 POAS around 15th November

LauraSmurf Fri 02-Nov-12 21:10:39

Pretty please can someone add me! I'm on iPad and can't copy and paste!

Thanks grin

babyjamesblackberrycrumble Fri 02-Nov-12 21:14:07

Littlepinkfizz TTC#5 Cycle 4 post mmc POAS 10th November
Happylass TTC #1, cycle 2 POAS around 12th November
BabyJames TTC #2, Cycle 8 (2 MC) POAS around 12th November
BakerBaker TTC #1 Cycle 3 POAS 11th November.
Bear TTC #1 POAS around 15th November
LauraSmurf TTC#2 Cycle 1 POAS ?

LauraSmurf Sat 03-Nov-12 09:13:44

Thanks babyjames I am ttc my 2nd DC. Cycle 1 Poas 11 nov!!

Just had pointless, totally hormonal driven argument about nothing with DH. So fingers crossed!

RaspberrysAndIcecream Sat 03-Nov-12 09:27:37

I caved in and poas. Bfn. Bollocks.

Might be to early or More likely, just not pregnant.

Hope the next week goes quickly for u all, I think you're all poss next weekend ish. Fx!!

was so tempting to poas early yesterday. I was emotional and tired and I could, er, smell people? if that makes sense.

AF Due in one week. good job my car is too poorly to drive to superdrug, lol.

and obviously its all in my head.

LauraSmurf Sat 03-Nov-12 13:05:13

Oh raspberry sorry it was negative. Don't give up hope just yet. Any sign of AF?

I am desperate to POAS but know its stupid. I'm not due til next Sunday, it would only be negative. But next week ill be with you baker racing to buy a test!

LauraSmurf Sat 03-Nov-12 13:07:00

Ps when baker says she can smell people I had a strange flash of sixth sense.

Bruce willis: I smell people....

happylass Sat 03-Nov-12 13:33:30

Sorry about the bfn Rasberry but don't give up hope yet. When is AF due? I'm only 6 dpo but this first week has gone sooooo slowly. Not only am I off work but I'm also 200 miles away from home with nothing much to think about other than TTC! DP is working away so I followed him in the name of DTD but I OVd before we came so a bit of a waste really! Hoping the second week goes a lot faster! Don't think I'll be able to hold off POAS much past next Saturday so I'll join you baker and Laura

babyjamesblackberrycrumble Sat 03-Nov-12 13:33:47

Littlepinkfizz TTC#5 Cycle 4 post mmc POAS 10th November
LauraSmurf TTC#2 Cycle 1 POAS 11th November
BabyJames TTC #2, Cycle 8 (2 MC) POAS around 11th November
Happylass TTC #1, cycle 2 POAS around 12th November
BakerBaker TTC #1 Cycle 3 POAS 11th November.
Bear TTC #1 POAS around 15th November

EchoDragon Sat 03-Nov-12 14:47:55

Sorry to hear about your BFN Raspberry I too caved and tested this morning alas BFN. Still I am six days early. So fx for it being too early.

Still super hormonal and very tired. Add to which I have a touch of heartburn which I don't usually have. AF is due 9th only six more days to wait. Feels like forever.

Please add me to the list
Echodragon TTC #1 Cycle 6 POAS 9th November

babyjamesblackberrycrumble Sat 03-Nov-12 15:53:18

Echodragon TTC #1 Cycle 6 POAS 9th November
Littlepinkfizz TTC#5 Cycle 4 post mmc POAS 10th November
LauraSmurf TTC#2 Cycle 1 POAS 11th November
BabyJames TTC #2, Cycle 8 (2 MC) POAS around 11th November
Happylass TTC #1, cycle 2 POAS around 12th November
BakerBaker TTC #1 Cycle 3 POAS 11th November.
Bear TTC #1 POAS around 15th November

Welcome Echodragon
I think its a little early for any of us to test yet. Must resist, must resist!!!!

EchoDragon Sat 03-Nov-12 17:25:23

Uh but waiting is do dreary! I want to test now!!!! <sulks and eyes tests in drawer>

EchoDragon Sat 03-Nov-12 17:26:14

Obviously so not do blush

llamaface Sun 04-Nov-12 09:34:43

Room for another?!
Llama - TTC #1, cycle 2. Day 9 PO. Trying to wait to POAS til 10th Nov....

happylass Sun 04-Nov-12 11:53:39

Hi llama come on in and take a seat. Have added you to the list.....

Echodragon TTC #1 Cycle 6 POAS 9th November
Littlepinkfizz TTC#5 Cycle 4 post mmc POAS 10th November
LauraSmurf TTC#2 Cycle 1 POAS 11th November
BabyJames TTC #2, Cycle 8 (2 MC) POAS around 11th November
Happylass TTC #1, cycle 2 POAS around 12th November
BakerBaker TTC #1 Cycle 3 POAS 11th November.
Bear TTC #1 POAS around 15th November
Llama - TTC #1, cycle 2. Day 9 PO. Trying to wait to POAS til 10th Nov....

RaspberrysAndIcecream Sun 04-Nov-12 12:01:46

Hi echodragon
it's day 31 so Af due now but I oved 2 days later this cycle so I'm possibly 2 days later with AF? But who knows!!
Fx it was just to early for u.

RaspberrysAndIcecream Sun 04-Nov-12 12:02:51

Hi Llama - good luck with the wait!!

I gave in and tested BFN obv.

But I feel like AF is going to show up a week early cos im crampy.

babyjamesblackberrycrumble Sun 04-Nov-12 13:12:57

Ki Llama

Baker crampy could be good!

I hope so but not getting my hopes up, cramps seem worse today. I got some at 5dpo but it went away and now at 9 and 10 dpo i'm really crampy.

Oh and I cried at some lady who lost her house to Sandy and said it was nothing after loosing her grandson last year, she managed to find hid pictures in the rubble.

I don't cry at strangers misfortune, I have ASD and can't cry at the misfortune of people I care about most of the time. (I cried at a cancer advert with the woman in a wedding dress wanting her mum about 10 years ago - reason never found, lol)

Crossing EVERYTHING right now (expect the legs, thats counter-productive).

llamaface Sun 04-Nov-12 15:45:05

Thanks ladies!

Know exactly whar you mean with confusing symptoms baker. Why oh why do early pregnancy symptoms have to be the same as pms?! My breasts are sooo tender & depending on my (wildly erratic) mood this means either i'm def pregnant or af is definitely on the way.

Fx for us all!

Meh, so cramping got the better of me and I peed on the second stick in the pack, I was going to wait until wednesday at the earliest.

I swear I can see a line when you tilt it to the light correctly, well more like a shadow.

Probably just wishful thinking, evap or something but.... oh please let it be!

Ok, I used found a used stick from last cycle in my draw (rank I know but it was still in its pouch) I remember the bathroom being cold so I legged it back to the bedroom before reading it.

When I compare the two todays definitely has a line.

Stick baby. Stick Stick Stick!

babyjamesblackberrycrumble Sun 04-Nov-12 18:23:31

grin FX for you Baker

EchoDragon Sun 04-Nov-12 19:50:33

baker snap me too! Same result BFN!

Twas only a cheapie tho. Got another 50 as well. Just in case!

happylass Sun 04-Nov-12 20:50:34

Keeping everything crossed for you baker!

I'm going to test again tomorrow with FMU, is frer really the best? i used a tesco own brand today.

llamaface Mon 05-Nov-12 08:20:04

Any news baker? fx

BraveLilBear Mon 05-Nov-12 10:23:59

Baker you never can tell - like BabyJames says, crampy can be our friend!

Think I will just have to lurk and cheer you guys on from afar... My hormones must have been jiggered post early mc. I ovulated last night. Mittelschmerz.

So I won't be testing til the 19th now. Grrr.

Fx for some BFP action soon for everyone else though!

I've only just woken up, couldn't sleep last night.

Off to the shop, god I'm dying for a wee now.

padster75 Mon 05-Nov-12 11:09:22

Very new to all this, nothing like this was around when I had DS (15). Now on 2nd DH, TTC #2, 15DPO, POAS errrrr well AF due today and so far she is a no show.

Had cramping all last week, some really sharp stabby efforts on Wednesday (have no idea how many DPO it was, I think about 10).

We shall see. GL everyone and please bare with me while I get to grips with all of this, not even sure I have posted in the right place confused


Shop all out of frer, so got a clearblue with conception indicator. It took sodding ages to decide. I dont like em.

AF due on sat/sun so I'll just have to wait it out.


BraveLilBear Mon 05-Nov-12 12:31:53

Sorry to hear that Baker but probably still too early - I think it has a low accuracy 4 days before AF due, which gets higher every day until AF due.

My inner jury is still out on CBCI - used them last time but wasn't sure. Liked the black and white results though.

littlepinkfizz Mon 05-Nov-12 12:50:21

Stupidly tested myself at 10 days PO and not e run with fmu...BFN ? Really disappointed though. Know how you are feeling baker

happylass Mon 05-Nov-12 16:56:43

Sorry to hear about the BFNs but like Brave says its probably too early. Fx for lots of BFPs in the next week grin

babyjamesblackberrycrumble Mon 05-Nov-12 17:12:37

I second what Happylass said. Probably just too early and those hormones wouldn't show yet either way. I am sooo tempted to test but after MC last 2 cycles I am also very scared. Hi there Padster welcome and good luck.

frogchops Mon 05-Nov-12 17:59:54

Anyone know what's going on..or a guess...
Having come off the pill and assuming tht I'd have a normal 28 day cycle, I Dtd like crazy around cd14...I'm on cd16 now and cramping reeeeally bad. However the cm has gone (but it was stringy and white on cd14)
Basically I duno know whether ov was cd14 ish due to cm signs, or today due to cramping signs. Can u get cramping after ovulation?? Can't be implantation surely this early??

BraveLilBear Mon 05-Nov-12 18:07:01

Hi frogchops, coming off the pill is 'all bets are off' territory - it can take a while to settle back down to reality, several months in many cases.

Plus, the withdrawal bleed isn't traditionally seen as a proper period (because the body hasn't ovulated so therefore it can't be, I guess).

I get a very sharp, specific cramp when I ovulate, so it could be that I guess, but honestly, it just sounds like your body's working itself out again. My first few cycles after the pill were all over the shop. They sorted out after about 3-4 months for me, but everyone's different.

No clue about cm though, I'll have to refer you to the TTC experts!

LauraSmurf Tue 06-Nov-12 09:14:03

I'm on CD28 of a 32 day cycle, It's driving me mad! I just want to test. It's so hard.

I WANT TO KNOW!! Sorry, I just needed that, can't say it in RL so I hope you don't mind the rant!

RaspberrysAndIcecream Tue 06-Nov-12 09:52:03

Rant away LauraSmurf!!

I'm on cd33, now AF is officially late, & another BFN this morning. sad And I've got a bit of a stomach bug sad

RaspberrysAndIcecream Tue 06-Nov-12 09:53:44

Sorry about all the other bfn's, hopefully it's just to early for a +!!!

RaspberrysAndIcecream Tue 06-Nov-12 09:58:52

frogchops the first cycle off the pill is a bit of a minefield. Some say you're more fertile, but I don't think you can really look at ovulation etc because none of what's happened before has been a real period iyswim.
My first cycle off the pill was a bit odd, bit of a breakthrough bleed that was just like an implantation bleed (according to all discriptions I've read) & then my period came 2 weeks later. So 5 weeks after stopping the pill was my first AF. I started day counting after that.
Good luck. smile

Yes frogchops, I came off the pill, had my breakthrough bleed. My first proper period came 32 days after my breakthrough bleed. My next one 29 days after that.

I am assuming I have a nice 28-29 day cycle and my body is still adjusting.

worriedmum100 Tue 06-Nov-12 13:16:47


Can I join in? TTC DC#2 since August. Had a WTF cycle last month when for no apparent reason my usual 31 day cycle became a 36 day cycle so I went through all the the "no AF but BFN" stuff which was horrible so those of you going through it this cycle I know how you feel!

So, I don't really know where I am now or when I will test. I am on CD21 today. We just decided to DTD EOD from CD10 onwards this cycle and so far we've managed it! I was having a horrible time at work over the summer and was very stressed/lost of lot of weight etc but things are much better now and I hope being less stressed at work will help.

Fingers crossed for everyone!

frogchops Tue 06-Nov-12 14:19:51

Hello there 2 wwrs, anyone else get that excited tingly Xmas eve feeling down below while waiting?? Every time someone mentions babies, pregnancy or children my stomach turns.
Anyway, just wondering.... Although I know we're supposed to Dtd even other day/as much as possible.... Is this still the case during the 2ww? Was thinking of going DP some 'time off' lol.... But if people suggest otherwise, I'll get back on it!!

I know what you mean Frogchops.

A BFP this month means a Christmas or New Year announcement.

That would be just lovely.

happylass Tue 06-Nov-12 20:41:50

Almost cracked and POAS earlier on but managed to restrain myself. Only 9 dpo but don't think can hold off much longer! Gonna try to wait until Saturday. Having half a cider tonight at the pub quiz. What are you ladies doing about alcohol in the 2ww?

frogchops Tue 06-Nov-12 21:03:45

I'm not a huge drinker but in any case I feel so sick so alcohol isn't really bothering me. I think because anything fizzy is giving me heartburn, is why I don't really want it. I just this second thought about Poas but I'm only about 3dpo, so a ridiculous idea!! I'll be a wreck by 9!!

happylass Tue 06-Nov-12 22:33:58

Decided to just have the odd drink if I fancy it. This TTC lark could be a very long process and being teetotal is only going tokay it harder. Pretty sure I've had some mild twinges/cramps over the last few days, or am I just imagining it hmm

happylass Tue 06-Nov-12 22:34:54

tokay wtf?? To make!

babyjamesblackberrycrumble Wed 07-Nov-12 07:59:41

Hi all,
I'm out sad AF has got me. First since July as have had 2 MC. I am trying to focus on the fact that it's good to have a period and will hopefully help sort out my body. Still gutting though. Anyway onwards and upwards. Day 1 again!!!
Good luck to you all x

BraveLilBear Wed 07-Nov-12 09:58:53

Oh BabyJames sorry the witch got you. Maybe she'll tuen out to be a good fairy, and help things, but still. Sucks. x

happylass Wed 07-Nov-12 11:49:59

So sorry baby that's rubbish. Have a glass or two of wine. Fx you get your BFP next cycle.

Sorry to hear that babyjames. Hopefully next time xx

I'm more and more convinced my line was an evap. It was like a shadow for ages and I think I was staring so long it only went pink after 10 mins.

All tests since then have been BFN (one FMU clear blue CI the next day and one tesco one last night).

Still feeling crampy, cervix feels sore to the touch. I have IBS which flares up near AF time.

Can't this be a sign of something wrong? Can being on the pill for 12 years, and all of my reproductive life, mask any problems?

I have very light periods. I think I need to break my internet.

RaspberrysAndIcecream Wed 07-Nov-12 13:21:00

So sorry babyjames

That witch is a bitch!!

Think she's about to get me 2!! I've started spotting, just waiting for it to arrive in full force so I can get on with the next cycle.

llamaface Wed 07-Nov-12 19:08:06

baker - step away from the internet! If you cant resist please please use reputable sites such as, or NHS choices.

What are you worried about being "wrong"? Firstly let me reassure that being on the pill definitely does not affect your fertility in the long term. Yes, it can take a few months for your cycles to settle down when you stop taking it, but it doesn't reduce your fertility. Also IBS is a pain, but doesnt affect your fertility.

Periods are a variable affair - light, heavy, long, short (just like people!). If you are having a regular monthly cycle roughly 21-35 days, then that is absolutely normal. Very irregular bleeding, passing lots of clots during your period, having cycles much shorter than 21 or longer than 35 days, bleeding midcycle, or bleeding/pain after sex can be markers something is "wrong" and is worth going to see your GP about.

Your cervix can be very sensitive - why do you think dilating it during childbirth is so painful! Different women have differently sensitive cervixes, and poeple with IBS tend to be very aware/sensitive of their "insides". If touching your cervix is really very painful (throughout your cycle), and causes you lots of pelvic pain, (or you get deep pelvic pain on sex) that is also worth going to see your GP about as it may be a sign of Pelvic inflammatory disease. It just being a bit sensitive is normal though (it wasnt designed to be poked!)

And remember. The AVERAGE time it takes for a woman to get pregnant if having regular, unprotected SI is 5 months. That means half of normal people take longer than that. Around 1 in 7 couples will not be pregnant at 1 year, but more than half of them are pregnant by 2 years (ie have no "problems" with their fertility).

Hope that helps smile I know its really hard to be rational when in the 2ww and loads of hormones are sloshing around to try and make you a bit paranoid - we've all been there!

llamaface Wed 07-Nov-12 19:13:14

and have a wine babyjames and raspberries. Sorry that it hasn't been your month sad

I'm really confused atm (Day 11 po)- lots of breast tenderness especially when I poke them, feeling a bit sick on and off probably because i've scoffed all the leftover halloween chocolate, increased CM but also some back pain and pelvic heaviness like AF is on its way. Why does time go so sllllooooooooowly.... Must resist urge to POAS....

greenlizard Wed 07-Nov-12 22:05:55

Hi I am also hunkering down for the wait. I am ttc#1 and on 3 cycle and trying to get to grips with it all. Got a positive opk Sunday, Monday and Tuesday and now "imagining" all sorts of twanging going on down below which really can't have much to do with anything! My attempts to be relaxed about it are not fooling anyone smile Btw what does POAS stand for?

Thanks Llama. You speak so much sense. I'm quite sure I'm out for this month now anyway. Normal AF Symptoms starting up.

What I meant with the pill was (bearing in mind I was a late starter, periods at 15, went on the pill at 16), they use the pill to treat some hormonal problems and problem periods and the such. Can being on the pill from the start of your reproductive life hide problems?

I mean what if someone had something, that is normally diagnosed early on after puberty due to the issues it caused and is normally treated with the pill or some such but that person was already on the pill so it was being treated without them knowing and masking symptoms.

I'm not thinking that could have happened to me, I was just pondering earlier.

happylass Thu 08-Nov-12 07:32:57

So I cracked and tested early. BFN of course. Now im telling myself it could just be too early. Why couldnt I just have waited arrrrrgh!!

llamaface Thu 08-Nov-12 10:08:49

How many days po. do you think you are happy ? i'm sorely tempted to test too, but if its negative that doesnt help!!

happylass Thu 08-Nov-12 11:06:04

llama I had my only smile on CB OPK early on Sunday 28th Oct followed by some serious OV pain as I was going to bed that night. smile was gone again the following morning. Based on that I think I'm 11dpo?? So probably too early to test. When will I learn?!?

LauraSmurf Thu 08-Nov-12 18:49:06

Hi all,
I am so sorry for those with evil AF or BFN's. I'm currently confused. My AF not due until Sunday. I am like clockwork, always have been. Well except once when I was 3 days early and it turned out I be implantation bleed with DD! I have just found some blood when I went to loo.

So confused and scared to be hopeful. It took 2 years to concieve dd1 surely I can't get it first time this time?

I think I'm over thinking!


LauraSmurf Thu 08-Nov-12 18:53:30

PS - greenlizard POAS means pee on a stick (preg test)

happylass Thu 08-Nov-12 22:02:29

Sounds promising Laura!! When are you going to POAS?

LauraSmurf Fri 09-Nov-12 07:08:55

Tomorrow morning was the plan, but now have to go to MIL overnight tonight. So not the plan angry

llamaface Fri 09-Nov-12 08:57:32

So i caved and tested this morning at day 13 po. There was the faintest pink line ever after about 6 mins - bfp or not? Going to get another test on way home- which ones are most sensitive?!

happylass Fri 09-Nov-12 10:53:10

A line is a line llama!! FRER is very sensitive. Good luck and keep us posted!

Pink in my CM this morn sad

llamaface Fri 09-Nov-12 19:16:51

you were right happy lass, line much clearer this evening on a clear blue (no FRER in Boots!). Definitely a BFP. grin Thanks for all the hand holding.

FX for everyone else.

Well, AF got me, a bit gutted to be honest.

happylass Fri 09-Nov-12 19:31:45

Woohoo llama. A huge congratulations! About time this thread got a BFP!
So sorry AF got you baker. I'm feeling her coming for me too sad. Fx for next cycle. How lovely would it be to get a BFP just in time for Xmas?

LauraSmurf Fri 09-Nov-12 19:56:11

I have also got bad news AF arrived for me. Still 2 days early, odd as I am usually like clockwork.

Just a bigger bitch then really.

So sorry your gutted baker

Congratulations llama

happylass Fri 09-Nov-12 20:17:35

So sorry AF got you too Laura. I figure if AF has to show her face then it's better early rather than late. At least it doesn't give you false hope and we can crack on with he next attempt sooner rather than later.

LauraSmurf Fri 09-Nov-12 20:56:54

That's a good way to look at it thanks, but the next 2 months look like a no go for us.

DH is out of country during next 'fertile time' and Decembers is on Christmas eve day and boxing day when we are at my parernts! I just don't know if I can do it at my parents house! ( I know I sound about 17) angry

FoxyFlint Fri 09-Nov-12 21:22:10

Hi, I hope you don't mind me joining..... This is my first post on MN so I hope I get it right! DH and I are trying for #1 and I'm on cycle 2 using CBFM. I am currently on what i think is 12 dpo (ov cd 20/21) and until today I had what I thought was some early symptoms - very bloated, cramps and twinges, dizzy spells and the last 2 mornings have woke up feeling very sick and dry heaving badly when trying to brush my teeth! I caved and tested this morning and got a BFN obviously! Also apart from a bit of bloating and a few twinges my 'symptoms' seem to have calmed down. No AF yet (cd 33) and no usual signs she's on the way. Am I going mad and have blown all the 'symptoms' into something there not? :-( I think maybe I had convinced myself I had got really lucky and caught quickly but I have a feeling I'm in for a few more months of this torture yet!

happylass Fri 09-Nov-12 21:58:02

Welcome Foxy. I'm pretty much in the same boat as you. BFN yesterday at 11dpo and lots of similar symptoms. Unfortunately I think many AF symptoms are also the same as pg ones so very confused. Think ill test again in a few days if AF doesn't show up. Good luck!

FoxyFlint Fri 09-Nov-12 22:11:42

Thanks happy. Up until today I was pretty hopeful with my 'symptoms' but as they have dissappered today I have given myself a good stern talking to and told myself to calm down! :-) Just waiting to when AF shows now. Fx for you.

RaspberrysAndIcecream Sat 10-Nov-12 08:37:16

Congratulations llama on the BFP!! grin

RaspberrysAndIcecream Sat 10-Nov-12 08:44:43

So sorry AF arrived baker & Laura, don't feel bad for feeling gutted baker, last cycle I had what can only be described as a strop at dh when he gave me a kiss & said it's ok, we'll try again (with a big grin on his face & a wink - hes enjoying all the sex!!) Hormones got the better of me & I ended up ranting "it's not fair, why hadn't it happened yet" blush
This cycle I just cried, and he didn't wink!! He just gave me a hug and made me a cup of tea!!

I must admit I cried. Silly really, only cycle 3.

That will teach me to test early. Stupid Evap.

happylass Sat 10-Nov-12 22:48:38

Tis not silly to cry baker. I'm only on cycle 2 and I cried at both my BFN. DP has banned me from testing early in future even though he knows I'll do it anyway Am sure I'd cry just as much if it was a BFP! Sending some very un Mum's Net hugs x

Well, AF been and gone. Started at 3pm Friday. Very light. Brown not red and only needed one tampon (Sorry, TMI).

Confused and annoyed.

LauraSmurf Sun 11-Nov-12 15:39:27

are you sure that wasnt implantation Baker?

Sounds like it could be!

POAS to make sure.;

I did - BFN.

AF was sightly early, so I thought it could be.

Probably my hormones still adjusting after 12 years of hormonal contraceptives.

If it was an IB, how long after would it take to show a positive HPT?

happylass Mon 12-Nov-12 17:22:20

AF finally got me today so I'm out for this month boohoo!

Baker how many dpo are you?

Anyone else POAS soon? We need some more BFP to inspire the rest of us!,

setayharas Mon 12-Nov-12 22:00:16

Hey room for one more??

I'm on cycle one. 4dpo and in going slightly mental already lol! I feel like I have every symptom possible, including very slight spotting last night(i know this is far too early and more than likely due to dtd sorry for tmi)

I think I need anistetic to get through my 2ww

happylass Tue 13-Nov-12 09:10:28

Welcome setay. Yes you will drive yourself mad with the symptom spotting during the 2ww I'm afraid! The trouble is most pregnancy symptoms are identical to AF symptoms so its easy to convince yourself. It doesn't seem like it at the time but the 2ww does go fairly quickly. Good luck!

BraveLilBear Tue 13-Nov-12 11:30:56

<waves at everyone>

Have been trying to post here for the last two days but every time I do, Mumsnet dies dramatically - but only when on this thread? Bizarre!

Boo to AF victims. Any news yet Baker I got a BFP 2 days after IB last time out, but I guess it could be up to 5 days if HCG only starts after implantation and doubles every day. Could take up to 5 days to reach 10, IYSWIM?

Welcome setay and foxy

I'm now 9dpo and having boob twinges. But can't tell if it's pre-AF or what.

LatieK Tue 13-Nov-12 13:14:34

Hi ladies, hope you don't mind me joining?

I'm on cycle 6 TTC#1, 9dpo with an 11 day luteal phase, so I'm supposed to test on Friday I may have POAS this morning... BFN sad

I've been having all sorts of weird crampy, pokey feelings in my uterus this 2WW, but every month has been different since I came off the pill in April (after 13 years!) so I'm trying and failing not to read anything into it.

Hope you're all doing ok and thanks for sharing - it's so helpful to read posts from people in the same position as me.

setayharas Tue 13-Nov-12 13:57:05

heyy everyone!! so im not 5dpo and today woke up with back ache kinda near where my kidneys should be. of corse my first thoughts was thats its another symptom! dh is trying hes hardest to keep me ane and explain to me that i probably slept funny.
ohhh well 10 days until af is due.
good luck everyone. what a great xmas pressie a bfp would be for everyone

BraveLilBear Tue 13-Nov-12 15:30:18

Hi LatieK welcome to the strange world where people share things that no right thinking human would ever say to another, all in the name of staring down the 2ww grin

It ain't over til the witch swoops, so you might get more joy at the weekend (if you can last that long!)

setayharas ouch, that doesn't sound like fun. Could it be a kidney problem? Fx it is a crazy early pg symptom but take care just in case...

LatieK Tue 13-Nov-12 18:00:57

Thanks Brave. I'll blatantly be POAS every day until AF comes - I've got a cupboard full of internet cheapies. Don't know if they're a good or a bad thing - they're saving me money on expensive tests but it means I cave in at the slightest inkling!!!

Feeling a bit crampy this eve as if AF is just around the corner... Why oh why do pregnancy symptoms have to be the same as AF symptoms???

setayharas Wed 14-Nov-12 13:01:26

Soooo I gave in and poas. 6dpo so dunno what I was expecting happen. Now Im sat in a shopping centre surrounded by mums and babies sulking that I hit wasted £7 on a test.

Oh I'm off to the doctors tomorrow bear to see if it is my kidneys.

Warning TMI coming up...

..AF lasted 4 days in the end, but never got red, was more brown/black and was a lot less than normal and tacky, used one tampon, realised I didn't need them, then 2 pantyliners in total. Normally I would use about 10-12 tampons during af.

My car broke and I spent all my money trying to fix it so can't test until Friday.

I don't think I'm pregnant, but I am still getting odd cramps, not like af cramps iyswim. Will test Friday just to rule it out.

Congrats to all BFP's grin

BraveLilBear Wed 14-Nov-12 17:11:40

Oh no setay darn those POAS voices in our heads! Probably wise to see docs - sure it's probably nowt but best not to mess with kidneys. Fx!

Baker that sounds intriguing! There's hope yet then wink Sorry about the car though sad

Do keep us posted!

Any joy yet LatieK? Anyone else POAS yet?

If I make it to the weekend without AF showing up, I'll be POAS with great confidence as have had on-off crampy twinges and v sore boobs. But as these are both normal pre-AF fodder for me, right now I'm not so confident! We shall see smile

setayharas Thu 15-Nov-12 14:46:19

back from the doctors! i dont have a kidney infection and i dont have a water infection. so iv either pulled a muscle in my back or iv got bad af pains or and the doctor kinda smirked and i really wanted to scream dont get my hopes up... i might be with child..

of corse im only 6dpo so theres no way of knowing but now im hating this 2ww even more.

hows everyone else holding out??

BraveLilBear Thu 15-Nov-12 16:33:06

Good news setay smile

I'm holding out, but am convinced AF is packing her bags and getting ready to move in. Sore bbs (like normal AF), bloating (like normal AF), and last night was boiling hot all night (like normal AF).

Had promised myself I'd hold out til the weekend before caving and POAS, so if she visits before then I'll have at least saved myself some squidage. Trying to be positive though!

10dpo refuse to test early cos I had a chemical at 5+2 last time and wouldn't want to invite the same tragedy on myself again (doctors claim that women wouldn't know about chemical pregnancies if they didn't test early).

Who else?

As expected BFN.

happylass Fri 16-Nov-12 16:02:44

Sorry to hear that baker sad I'm on cd 5, so another week before the dreaded 2ww begins again. Im kind of enjoying this time of the month because there's no OV or BFP to think about so can just relax! Come join me in hoping for a festive BFP. I'll next be POAS around 8/12.

setayharas Fri 16-Nov-12 16:30:45

ohh baker im sorry!maybe christmas is your time!

7dpo now and back ache is still there aswell as my calfs killing me and generally feel like some coming down with flu or something. iv shouted at atleast 50% of my customers today lol and cried in the staff toilets when i got another well early i know bfn.
think af is going to be early as my usual teary horrible mood swings are here already aswell as the usual sore boobs.

ohhh well the waiting game continues

blondebaby111 Sun 18-Nov-12 12:19:47

Can i join the waiting room?? Horrible nasty 2ww after 1st round of ivf. My neres can't stand it any longer sad

happylass Sun 18-Nov-12 22:43:02

Welcome blonde. Good luck for the 2ww. How long til you can POAS?

BraveLilBear Mon 19-Nov-12 12:32:08

Hi Blonde good luck for your 2ww - it's agony at the best of times, must be torture on IVF. Fx for you!

blondebaby111 Mon 19-Nov-12 19:18:39

we have another long six days before testing!! trying to take my mind off things but everywhere i go its babies!! oh and of course i was very open about having ivf as i'm not ashamed of it but the only prob now is everyone who knows is asking 'any news yet' so i'm slightly regretting telling some people xx

Cherrycherry Mon 19-Nov-12 20:51:43

Hi ladies
Please can I join you???

Sorry to all of you for your losses and sorry some of you had bfn but congrats on any bfp!

I'm probably a bit out of sync because I think I'm 2 dpo but can't be sure.
Am ttc #2 (DD is 3 next month), came off the pill in August, had a wtf cycle that month, then a 28 day cycle then had a bfp very quickly followed by heavy bleeding and bfn on what would have been 5 wks so chemical pregnancy and that was the end of October. Stopped bleeding about 10 days ago and am pretty certain that I ov'd over the weekend. Don't even really know if I'm on 2ww or if af is going to come at any time! I guess I'll test around 30th if nothing happened by then. I'm addicted to POAS though so fx I can wait that long!

Am desperately trying to keep my mind occupied until either af or bfp!


katerinaemalina Tue 20-Nov-12 10:20:13

I'm on the TTC train now too. Am currently in the waiting period. First month of trying so not sure what to expect yet and trying to not get hopes up as so early days. Not really sure I'm feeling any different. I'm really thirsty and a bit crampy but nothing I wouldn't have noticed if we weren't trying. Another week of waiting yet for me.

BraveLilBear Wed 21-Nov-12 12:09:08

Hello to cherry and katerina and everyone else <waves>

Just a quick one to say good luck to everyone in the 2ww... I thought I was out of the game at 10dpo, but actually, I wasn't. Got a BFP this morning at 17dpo!

My totally normal AF symptoms turned out to be a little bean-ette instead. So you're never out til you're out I guess! Fx it sticks <eek>

Good luck fellow 2wwers!

LatieK Wed 21-Nov-12 13:25:27

Massive congrats Brave - so happy for you. Fx it's a sticky one smile

'Fraid AF showed up bang on schedule at 12 dpo sad I s'pose one positive thing is that my cycles are regular??

Thanks for asking after me and sorry I dropped off the thread. I'm new to MN and clearly don't know what I'm doing as I thought the thread had disappeared...

On to cycle 7. Whoop.

BraveLilBear Wed 21-Nov-12 16:09:33

Thanks LatieK really sorry that AF showed up tho. What a witch. But, true, least you can set your clock by her. Fx for next cycle - enjoy some wine in the meantime wink

Cherrycherry Wed 21-Nov-12 19:05:00

Congratulations bravelilbear! That's great news!

happylass Thu 22-Nov-12 20:06:41

Positive on the opk today.......and the dreaded 2 week wait begins again!! Anyone else with me?

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