The femmes fatales of the BESH are lying back and thinking of England

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evilgiraffe Wed 24-Oct-12 18:14:36

As witches and pumpkins become old hat, the BESH are scrubbing up well in salute to James Bond in general and Skyfall in particular. Put on your slinky cocktail dresses and stiletto heels, grab a Martini, and start schmoozing with well-dressed secret agents.

Insta-diffs will be shot with a quip but without a qualm. Anyone else wanting to join can dodge a few bullets post the BESHtionnaire.

<climbs into a shiny Aston Martin driven by an unfeasibly gorgeous young man and zooms away into the sunset>

JustBuggerlugs Wed 24-Oct-12 18:17:32

I hereby declare myself, for this fred and this fred only......

Sammy4Sampson (my bond girl name!)

<applies lipgloss>

FrankelSaysRelax Wed 24-Oct-12 18:19:58

<swivels round in large chair>

Well hello BESH. I've been expecting you grin

<strokes cat>

FrankelSaysRelax Wed 24-Oct-12 18:25:50

Ooooo: steps to find out your Bond Girl name:

1) start with the surname of your favourite actress

2) Next add your favourite fruit

3) Finally take the fruit and translate into French


Meet Janney Fraise


eurowitch Wed 24-Oct-12 18:39:04

I like it, FSR. I'm struggling to think of a favourite actress so I'll go with my lez crush from the BESHtionnaire for now, which makes me:

Johansson Framboise

HavingALittleFaithBaby Wed 24-Oct-12 18:39:29

Hello new Fred. Lets hope Bond wins plenty of BFPs!

I can't think of my name choice at the moment.

bugs MSB had 0% rapid swimmers his first SA. He started taking a multivitamin with zinc and cut down his boozing. Obviously there were deeper ishoos but it did show some improvement the next time. His last one was still on the low side but I got diffed the month later! I'm glad you have a plan now smile

evilgiraffe Wed 24-Oct-12 18:42:53

Surname? Really?

Dench Framboise doesn't sound too alluring, really. <wracks brain for alternative actresses>

JustBuggerlugs Wed 24-Oct-12 18:44:13

He moans because he says that the zinc in tablets makes them taste like shit. I'm like hellllooooooooo having a random nurse look up my fanjo a billion times isnt exactly pleasant. Deal with it! He's said he'll take them though.

I'm watching Queer as folk whilst ironing.

ThisWitchSinks Wed 24-Oct-12 19:02:13

Ooh, I rewatched Queer as Folk recently. Excellent viewing Bugs

Diaz Framboise

I'm not sure I'm convinced by this formula for our bond girl name. Or is it just because we all like raspberrys and therefore are all related... (and thats before rasp declaires hers).

Bugs, ghj is horrified by everything he is asked to do, and gets irritated when I'm not "supportive". Although making him walk around with his biohazard bag with an A4 booklet on "your sperm sample" was a little harsh.

FrankelSaysRelax Wed 24-Oct-12 19:30:05

Ok try this site for your Bond name.

I am now Lupe de Beauvoir - tres exotic

HavingALittleFaithBaby Wed 24-Oct-12 19:32:37

I'm Bunny Lovett hmm

ThisWitchSinks Wed 24-Oct-12 20:08:37

I'm Kitty Holiday.

I likes it. grin

ThisWitchSinks Wed 24-Oct-12 20:10:02

My maiden name would have been Paris Menstrua. hmm

ThisWitchSinks Wed 24-Oct-12 20:11:28

And. If it get my capital right, Prisssy (with 3 S's- that's not a mistype) Fillet

I think I'll stick with option one Bob.

FrankelSaysRelax Wed 24-Oct-12 20:12:42

My maiden name makes it Malena* Loinz hmm

eurowitch Wed 24-Oct-12 20:16:42

Heh. I came out with Amber Shagmore. Which I think is more Austin Powers than Bond, but I luffs it.

The name's Shagmore. Amber Shagmore. <Attempts sultry look> <Collapses into a heap giggling>

ThisWitchSinks Wed 24-Oct-12 20:58:08

Fancy a team BESH name change? Might get confusing though..

JustBuggerlugs Wed 24-Oct-12 21:07:16

I worked out my bond name by taking my first pets name and my mums maiden name or is that how you work out your porn star name??

FrankelSaysRelax Wed 24-Oct-12 21:15:45

Maybe we just change part of our names. You can be EuroShagmore and I'll be FrankelDeBeauvoir grin

FrankelDeBeauvoir Wed 24-Oct-12 21:20:23


<ponders if new name is acksherly pronounced "beaver">

ThisWitchSinks Wed 24-Oct-12 21:32:34

Bugs, that's just porn star! (and mine is rubbish so I boycot it)

raspberrytipple Wed 24-Oct-12 21:33:36

Malenia kinkart????

ThisWitchSinks Wed 24-Oct-12 21:33:53

Ah.. By using my Sunday name, I have found myself a good un. A name change will ensue...

raspberrytipple Wed 24-Oct-12 21:34:44

Euro just change first name to ivana.....goes much better grin

eurowitch Wed 24-Oct-12 21:36:57


I quite like EuroShagmore.

FrankelDeBeauvoir Wed 24-Oct-12 21:37:46

It's fitting for a TTC thread, that's for sure!

EuroShagmore Wed 24-Oct-12 21:38:59


SinkyGoodenplenty Wed 24-Oct-12 21:40:07


My new name, a mug of gin, my slinky dress (with peacock trim). Good fred so far.

(can you tell I have a load of work to do and found out today I have an interview for a new job next week? Procrastinating, me? Noooooo)

FriendofDorothy Wed 24-Oct-12 22:03:44

I would like to come in wearing my gold bikini but I think I would scare the shit out of you all!

Evening all smile Still getting my pom poms out in case of a BESH win this fred.

FrankelDeBeauvoir Wed 24-Oct-12 22:36:03

< Whispers conspiratorially In a spy like fashion>

The cod has landed wink

That's code for "I've taken my trigger injection" btw.

FrankelDeBeauvoir Wed 24-Oct-12 22:36:53

<eyes up Dor's impressive buzzwams in her bikini>

FrankelDeBeauvoir Thu 25-Oct-12 07:45:33

Are you all off on a secret mission somewhere and forgot to tell me?! hmm

evilgiraffe Thu 25-Oct-12 08:27:45

Why, no, Frankel, we expect you to die!


'scuse me. Not sure what came over me then. <hides fluffy white cat and collection of gold bullion>

Today my friend is visiting. We are going to swan around town and chatter for HOURS smile HOTB is also coming home today, hooray!

EuroShagmore Thu 25-Oct-12 10:46:00

Dor you can wear the gold bikini. Tie the pompoms to your preggo norks. ;)

JustBuggerlugs Thu 25-Oct-12 12:49:57

So, project win a baybee has begun. I have purchased asprin and preggo tests and blooming expensive sticks for the sh*g disctator kindly lent to me by aplinePony.

Can someone tell me, in a nut shell how it works?!?!

FrankelDeBeauvoir Thu 25-Oct-12 14:28:59

You need to reset the SD Bugs so that it knows it has a new person to analyse (you can download the manual online).

You tell the monitor when it is the first day of your period and at some point, usually around Day 10, it will ask you to insert a peed on stick. It will give you 1 2 or 3 bars depending on the hormone levels it detects.

It is more accurate than the cheapies because it detects LH and Oestrogen, so is more likely to pick up ov than just the initial surge.

WinklyFriedChicken Thu 25-Oct-12 17:49:12

Liking the new fred

<sits on speedboat in bikini tossing hair behind self in glam fashion>

<ignores fact that IRL would vomit on speedboat>

Good luck with the shagdictator bugs and with strategic fashion frankel

Frankel I was thinking of you today reading this Daily Mash article smile

raspberrytipple Thu 25-Oct-12 17:58:02

Urgh, MATV is going to need a talking to. I'm fertile so I've come ready to do deed and he's just declared he has a headache so couldn't possibly be that energetic. He then throws his gym kit on an wanders off to the garage for a work out. I have said that next month he needs to get his act together, I'm not pumping myself full of drugs for the next 6 months only for him to feel a bit sleepy. MEN!!! It wud be so much easier if we could be like those frogs who can impregnate themselves!

Bet James Bond wouldn't have this problem, he'd be permenantly up for it!

FrankelDeBeauvoir Thu 25-Oct-12 18:08:38

grin @ Winkly

Raspberry, can you not just jump on him?! Sometimes they think they're too tired, you just have to, er, show them they're not wink

But you're right, you'd never have this problem with James Bond randy git

Where are the BESH? Norf, Jethro, et all: are you out there?! Rie I'm still thinking of you, hope things have improved with your dad.

WinklyFriedChicken Thu 25-Oct-12 18:08:49

James Bond would be no good - all those women he's shagged, never a condom to be seen, and not one single BabyBond slowing him down? Ishoos.

EuroShagmore Thu 25-Oct-12 18:15:17

Rasp I can't believe that. I'd show him the paracetemol and give him an hour to sort himself out and then tell him his services are required!

Heh@winkly I think most of the Bond girls didn't survive that long post possible conception! But maybe you are right. How disappointing if we've picked an infertile theme!

rasp angry

Husband has a bit of a tendancy towards failing to play at the necessary times. Its shit, I know. Can you swallow your rage, channel your inner Elektra King and do your vair best seducing? Strutting around in nice pants & heels and all that so he feels less pressured and more horny? If not you have my permission to throw a hissy fit.

raspberrytipple Thu 25-Oct-12 18:51:53

He's just come back in and declared he's miserable and doesn't know why so i've made him a cup of fruit tea and plonked him in front of the light box for half an hour, see if that cheers him up.

I'm really randy too.....perhaps I just need to avert my thoughts to Daniel Craig. Now that is one Bond I would NOT kick out of bed grin

evilgiraffe Thu 25-Oct-12 18:59:00

It's all about the seduction, definitely.

I suspect all the Bond girls are on the pill. I can't live with the thought that hot daddy-Bond is never going to be a possibility sad

raspberrytipple Thu 25-Oct-12 19:10:31

God, I just got two mega strong lines on my OPK, MAVT just groaned and got in the shower :/ Hopefully he'll give it a go a bit later fingers crossed. That means I've ovulated quite early for me, I was expecting to ov on Sunday. I'm guessing if I got a positive just now (and I didn't do a test yesterday, I forgot sad ) that means Im either ovulating now or will do in the next 24 hrs? We last DTD on Tuesday.

Sorry for the me me me but I'm having a mini meltdown just now

FrankelDeBeauvoir Thu 25-Oct-12 19:13:09

The OPK detects the surge of LH which causes ovulation (hormone expert, me!) I'd definitely get on the job, you're likely to ov in the next 24-48ish hours.

raspberrytipple Thu 25-Oct-12 19:26:51

I won! A little clinical and a bit quick perhaps but sitting on top of him and threatening to suffocate him with my boobs worked a treat. smile

Blimey, just looked at the time of my last post, really was quick! Ahhh well, never mind as long as the swimmers are up there smile

rasp WOW to your powers of seduction! I was coming back to give you sympathy but clearly your sheer awesomeness has made that unnecessary!

Draf I did some more thinking and reckon the 00's will have had to get the snip as part of the job, not very spy-esque to leave a string of Bondinis across the globe. Totally reversible for when manly Bond spermz are needed.

raspberrytipple Thu 25-Oct-12 19:35:18

I think he knew he wouldn't win so gave up before I got stroppy. He's gone to make me chips now whilst bottom is in the air grin. It does upset me when he says no though, us girls are the ones who have to have operations, get cameras shoved up our privates, get stuffed full of drugs and blood extracted here there and everywhere. I don't think it's to much to ask that he put a brave face on and shag the woman he's married too a few times over peak days really. :/

FrankelDeBeauvoir Thu 25-Oct-12 19:36:00

<round of applause> Well done that hag!

I think I will need all my powers to get HWHNN in the mood, I'm not collecting him from the train station till 10pm! I'm thinking drive there in my trench coat, heels and not a lot else wink Just have to hope I don't breakdown/get pulled over grin

evilgiraffe Thu 25-Oct-12 19:43:00

Excellent work, rasp! HOTB has come home with a tummy bug, there's no way spermz are getting anywhere near me any time soon and I can't be annoyed with him either. Hopefully it'll be gone by tomorrow night...

evilgiraffe Thu 25-Oct-12 19:45:38

And yes I think you're right re 00snippage, winkly.

Well frankypants, driving round in your coat and pants means if you do get pulled over, you're not too likely to get a ticket grin

FYI I have bad PMT so I would just like to share the following:


raspberrytipple Thu 25-Oct-12 20:11:26

nooooooooooo not PMT!!!!!!!!! MATV never understands why calling me a grumpy moo when im PMTing leads to much throwing of cushions at his head......

Husband (who really needs a nickname) told me the other night I needed to snap out of it.


I thought I was being highly reasonable by pointing out he wouldn't tell someone with a broken leg to just snap out of it. I wanted to have a major hissy fit and scream "well if you'd diffed me we wouldn't be having this fucking problem would we?!?!"

raspberrytipple Thu 25-Oct-12 20:24:22

yes but see you went wrong when you failed to throw something at his head. Did you at least get high pitched while yelling? I find that the best approach

Apparently they frown on that in Bluewater rasp. And I had just ordered my dinner. He was wise enough to make that crack in public!

The PMT has been much worse since ditching hormonal contraception. DM had her womble whipped out in her mid 30s cos of super-evil life-ruining PMT. Can't wait to win a couple of baybees then I can do away with mine as well, useless piece of crap that it is.

When I had my SFP (small faint positive) last month, I had had a super cheery last week of cycle with no PMT whatsoever sad

SinkyGoodenplenty Thu 25-Oct-12 20:29:46

And then cry a little. So you really have the upper hand.

<emotional abuser>

raspberrytipple Thu 25-Oct-12 20:41:35

I always like to remind MATV of the story of that woman in America who had her murder charged dropped to manslaughter due to diminished responsibility because she had mega PMT.

sinky I am not a dainty Hollywood crier. I sob, gulp, cough, and I go all red and blotchy so my face looks a bit like this and more suited to the previous fred than this one, so I skip the crying. Unless something really emotional happens - like the first 10 minutes of Up, having to get out of the way of a pregnant woman in Boots, Cafe Nero only having Coke Zero not Diet Coke...

evilgiraffe Thu 25-Oct-12 21:04:35

The first ten minutes of Up are traumatising. There was proper snot sobbing when I watched that.

raspberrytipple Thu 25-Oct-12 21:14:38

I must admit I had a bit of a snot sob to the start of that film sad Tis a lovely film though smile

EuroShagmore Thu 25-Oct-12 21:29:18

Bloody hell rasp, that was efficient! Nice work. wink

Winkly have you tried evening primrose pre ov? It really made a difference to my PMT.

I think I'm about to be hit by the witch too. I've been utterly mizz for the past couple of days. And I'm 12 or 13 dpo so it's about time. I'm usually angsty rather than mizz. I blame the acu for stirring my hormones.

<Feebly brandishes gun and attempts to look alluring>

<allure'd by euro>

Nope haven't tried EPO yet. Will that mess with my cycles? I've been trying to cut down on alcohol & caffeine, eat healthier and take multivits but am still entirely murderous blush

HavingALittleFaithBaby Thu 25-Oct-12 21:40:12

Low carb/high protein and a magnesium supplement helped me with the PMT.

Luffing the sechsy name changes laydees!

Nice work rasp wink

Hi faif

I luffs the carbs sad

Where are norf and rie et al? SHURELY they don't have an ackshual life?? Hi BESHies if you are lurking, come back plz.

Going to bed in a random moody strop with nobody in particular now. Night all.

raspberrytipple Thu 25-Oct-12 21:58:10

Thanks for the praise Hags smile I too am rather impressed at the turn around time. Now just to convince him tomorrow the deed must be done every day til Monday...... Eeek. That might not go down well....or up as the case may be.

You know, I had one of those ursual thingummy bikinis years ag, didn't look as good on me cuz I was basically the same shade of white.....

raspberrytipple Fri 26-Oct-12 07:36:30

Morning all! Managed to get a re-run out of him this morning. [showoffemoticon]. Hoping maybe once more tomorrow morning and that should cover me but I'm off to pee on another stick to see what it says.

Happy Friday secshie ladiezzzz. smile

lovesLemonDrizzleCake Fri 26-Oct-12 09:17:28

I am related to euro: Amish Shagmore smile

Oh and hello, I am catching up on this Fred, did anything spectacular happen on the last one, since Tuesday, as I spend hours catching up from the weekend then, but didn't get anywhere...

lovesLemonDrizzleCake Fri 26-Oct-12 09:29:26

Sorry for the useless men, and very impressed by your powers of persuasion rasberry as well as the speed. When SB is not up for it, it does take a lot more than 20 minutes all inclusive wink. However, refusing all sechsing for a month whilst diffed, followed by about three weeks of more or less bleeding has brought the enthusiasm back in the sour household. I am of course not holding out any hope of us diffing au natural, but it is not for lack of shagging.

Right, what happened at the end of the last Fred? Do I need to go back?

Isn't norf gallivanting about the Welsh countryside? Oh and I read on Wed, yay for sensible docs and IVF-referrals.

Sorry, I forgot most of the rest... I might hunt, or actually do what I am paid for, ie work...

Northey Fri 26-Oct-12 10:19:28

This message will self destruct in 10 seconds.

I iz on a top secret mission to the seaside but will be back soon.

<tucks turkey baster seductively into stocking top>

EuroShagmore Fri 26-Oct-12 10:29:58

rasp now you are just showing off.

My fave bikini (now years old) is a speedo one (no, really, they make great beach bikinis that actually stay put whilst swimming) that is a bit Ursula Andress - it's khaki green with a cream belt and I love it. It's starting to look a bit tatty now, but I've bought about 5 bikinis since and don't like any of them as much.

drizz we must be cousins.

Winkly EPO shouldn't mess with your cycles in a negative way, but if you are trying you should only take it pre-ov as apparently it can cause womble cramps or something. I used to take it all the time but have now cut down to pre-ov.

I've started spotting (odd - I never spot for more than an hour or two before the abattoir scene starts) and my temp has fallen off a cliff, so Droid is on its way. <Sigh> On to cycle 25.

There was one slightly odd thing this month - one of my main PMT symptoms is shivers. I get them up to a week before Droid. I've never heard of anyone else having the same thing. Anyway, on Monday my new acu lady was asking me about PMT symptoms and I mentioned them. She grabbed my hand and said "I don't think you will get them any more" with a knowing look. I didn't. I've had them for years. V odd. I still don't understand how sticking some needles in me can change something like that.

I have something to distract me from Droid's arrival - I went shopping last night and picked up Barry M crackle nail varnish. I know I am late to this particular party, but it is AWESOME stuff. Every time I look down at my crackly nails they make me smile. I am a particularly big fan because I am a bit rubbish at painting my own nails but this stuff hides a multitude of sins. And it was only 4 quid.

HavingALittleFaithBaby Fri 26-Oct-12 11:05:53

I'm sure I read somewhere that epo post ov can affect implantation? Dunno how true that is hmm

FrankelDeBeauvoir Fri 26-Oct-12 11:21:44

Ah, nice to see some of our undercover agents have checked in wink

The sechs was achieved last night, though I bottled the "not a lot under my trench coat" plan. I did stick on a short dress, fishnets & heels though grin He didn't notice till we got home anyway, so my efforts would have been wasted hmm

According to this mornings temps I haven't ov'd yet. Nurse said it would be today, so we'll see if she was right tomorrow morning! I don't know if these drugs affect temps though, so it may be pointless charting temps! I have to go for a blood test on 2 Nov to confirm ov and I'm to test on 11th November if droid hasn't showed up.

<dons sunglasses, trench coat & fake beard>

Northey Fri 26-Oct-12 11:57:47

AMNH has just been called to go for his IVF blood tests! Eek! Ooh! Aah! I wasn't expecting anything to happen for ages. This is cheering. Almost as cheering as being shagged in the back of an Aston Martin.

EuroShagmore Fri 26-Oct-12 14:15:36

Droid is here in its full glory. Meh.

JethroTull Fri 26-Oct-12 16:14:34

Hello Hags. Good going with The Sechsing everyone & loving the name changes!

Euro the needles do some Strange Things. I try not to think about it.

For the first time ever I am willing the droid to arrive so I can phone the clinic to order my drugs. Bring on the IVF.

raspberrytipple Fri 26-Oct-12 21:02:23

no more sex for me so far today but hopefully another quickie tomorrow morning and I reckon I'm covered. Surge is over - I pee'd on an OPK this morning and it wasn't as strong as the two lines I got yesterday. I've had a rather exciting day today though, we had a break in overnight and our safe was raided! They forced a window but had a key for the safe! inside job......we had CSI there and everything. Then I went to the drs and found out that I've never had my 5th tet/dip/polio jabs as a child so ended up having those today and I now have a sore arm sad Got to go back next week for MMR which I also never had.

Hope droid shows up soon for you jethro so you can get going.

northy being shagged in the back of an aston martin could be fun - but not practical......I still would though if it was Daniel Craig bond. God he's fit.

Frankel did you place a bet with the nurse about when you might Ov? I think I would have had to smile

urrghhh I feel rough, I need wine!

EuroShagmore Fri 26-Oct-12 23:36:12

No one my age had MMR. <Old gimmer> I had my rubella jab when I was about 12. And I suffered through mumps and measles as a child.

I think we have acquired a mouse. We have heard rustlings from the kitchen tonight. We had one a couple of years ago (just the one and we got rid of it). I'm surprised we don't get more - the storeroom for our local minimarket backs onto our mews about 20m from our front door and that must be mouse heaven. I wish the humane traps worked, but they never seem to. So we will be picking up the evil kind tomorrow to get the little fvker before it breeds. (We'll buy the humane ones too but I don't hold out great hopes for them preferring them.)

LauraPalmerPlusOne Sat 27-Oct-12 07:37:48

<crawls out of the sea, saunters across beach while unzipping wetsuit to reveal a slinky evening gown, then reaches into cleavage to procure a silver tray of perfect gin martinis>

Laydees. I trust you're all getting it on with your mission. I've come to brief you on a new development...there are mini- agents abound on the PESH fred. wink

[This slinky dress will self destruct in 30 seconds.]

<quickly waddles out>

EuroShagmore Sat 27-Oct-12 09:08:03

Woop woop! Dor you're next on the list. Crikey.

raspberrytipple Sat 27-Oct-12 14:29:14

Spies...... what is your view on exercise in TWW? I just pee'd on a stick and if it's to be believed I've officially ovulated yesterday as there is only a faint second line on OPK today. I reeeeeeaaaallly want to do a weights workout this afternoon as my chest muscle is starting to ease off nicely (pulled it earlier this week). I also do about three hrs pole dancing a week. I can't find anything on t'int that actually says what we should and shouldn't do exercise wise during TWW, only forums with people asking or conflicting stuff. After three years I can't see what difference it will make but y'know, I don't want to be beating myself up all the damn time. What do we reckon or does anyone have any links. I really want to do some sit ups/press ups too.....

Also - had a letter from consultant to say my CA125 test came back raised so Endo is probably back after lap and Diathermy in April. Great. I suppose it explains a pain I've been getting in my right side groin. They don't want to do another lap just yet, they'll reassess in February I suppose.

Sorry to hear you have a visitor Euro. I don't like mice, they are just too little and I worry I will squash them. Im not sure whether like rats though in that they don't have a bladder or anything so just wee/poo constantly?

SinkyGoodenplenty Sat 27-Oct-12 15:56:28

Howdy. Well, i went on a pretty long run this morning. Was about 1degree at the start- my favourite running weather is this brisk cold with autumn sun. I really can't think that it would be a problem. My running club will let you tag along in the first trimester if you want.

Surely any egg thats going to stick, is going to stick, no matter how much pole dancing you do (maybe a bit of upside down hanging might help? Arf). I think the biggest problem would be that, if you did miscarry, you'd always wonder and doubt yourself.

Just back from my needles man. Even nicer in cold weather to get the heat lamp treatment! Can't go for a bit now though. This i'll miss it!

Currently about cd29. Have a heavy womble feeling. Maybe droid? Would be delighted. (for newbys, any cycle in my world is a good cycle, even if means I'm still not diffed)

I want a BESH meet up now, with pole dancing. <stamps foot>

<pouts attractively while perched at bar, dripping in diamonds>

raspberrytipple Sat 27-Oct-12 16:15:05

Well, I would definately be giving up pole if I got diffed as the chance of falling is a bit too high to risk but am more worried about sticky eggs but you are probably right, if it wants to stick it will.

I am happy to bring my pole to any BESH meet..... not sure Bond has ever bonked a pole dancer though has he? I may be damaging my chances in more ways than one....

FriendofDorothy Sat 27-Oct-12 18:13:23

Next? Dear God!

JustBuggerlugs Sat 27-Oct-12 20:27:54

Yep Dor and i will be on cervix watch from December 1st onwards. Anyone care to place a litte wager on date, weight etc?

So this cycle we have managed the sechs twice.......... and now GP has to abstein to JIAP again on Monday. Meh. I'm horny and i keep having horny dreams.

FrankelDeBeauvoir Sat 27-Oct-12 20:33:59

Evening hags. Hurrah on the news of mini BESH arrivals.

Just got back from watching Skyfall. It was amazing, I recommend going to see it ASAP before you hear any spoilers grin

JustBuggerlugs Sat 27-Oct-12 20:35:16

Hoping to go next week with GP but am so knackered all the time, going on a work night is probably not the best idea. Also need to do some baking for a colleagues birthday.

Skyfall is vair good but long and my bladder was ready to pop by the end...

FriendofDorothy Sat 27-Oct-12 22:09:14

My last day at work is 30 November so I really don't want him to make an arrival before then!

Northey Sun 28-Oct-12 06:01:14

Skyfall was brilliant. First half perhaps a bit better than the second, but that's mostly nit-picking, as it's all fab.

Going back to work tomorrow and a strange mixture of glum/in a tizz.

<paints self gold>

FrankelDeBeauvoir Sun 28-Oct-12 12:07:01

How do you feel about work Norf? Maybe have a chat with your boss and see if you can ease yourself back in?

Pretty sure I've ov'd now as temp jumped up again this morning. Assuming ov was on Friday, we did the sechs on Thursday, Friday and Saturday and will do it again later for luck, so we've given it as good a shot as we can! If this cycle fails we'll take a break for the next one (as in no treatment) because HWHNN is away on business for 2 weeks during November.

BF still hasn't dropped her baby. She's had 3 sweeps and midwife reckons she is making slow progress but she will be 2 weeks overdue tomorrow. Keeping fingers crossed they'll let her make some more natural progress, but, as she said, baby arriving safely is the main thing, however it has to happen.

lovesLemonDrizzleCake Sun 28-Oct-12 15:22:07

Well done of the run sinky. As you can see below, rasberry I am off the exercise in TWW. I did loads with my BFP (I tailed off rapidly afterwards but that was due to achy boobs mainly).

Excellent sechsing frankel. And yay for well-timed egg. If this one doesn't work, we can be cycle buddies in September, because that is when we get to start to play again.

Massive good luck at work tomorrow, norf! Is there anything that can be done to make it less daunting?

Just popped over the AN fred, which I think was brave. Yay about BESHbabes though.

I am knackered, we walked over 10 miles in autumny woods yesterday. And today I went for a run, baked banana bread and did all the washing. And we did the sechsing, despite it being cd15 and I am sure I produced an egg when we weren't seching cos SB was away, but it was fun all the same. Unfortunately there is a lot washing-up to be done, another wash to be hung and then... The PiLs. Oh and I was meant to do some work. Details.

EuroShagmore Sun 28-Oct-12 17:07:57

I exercise as normal in the 2ww. When I had IUI I was told to take it easy in the 2ww but my IVF clinic said carry on as normal, so it seems there is no consensus.

I've had a veh nice drunken night staying with friends. It's always a little emotional because they started trying for their youngest a month after we started trying. She's one next month. But we had a great weekend. There was a hearty dinner, cake, a lot of wine, drunken pumpkin carving and a walk in the country this morning to try to blow away the hangovers. Their older child LOVES KFZK. He always makes a beeline for him. It's lovely to see.

raspberrytipple Sun 28-Oct-12 18:38:01

Well, workout is done. Not much point putting even more of my life on hold for a baby that will probably never materialise so I may as well be barren but buff :/

SinkyGoodenplenty Sun 28-Oct-12 18:58:01

This is my thinking. Barren but buff. And a bit pickled.

Northey Sun 28-Oct-12 19:06:14

Wow, there's a thread title for the Weightloss folder.

raspberrytipple Sun 28-Oct-12 19:47:17

grin The BESH - Barren but Buff and bonking for Britain.

Northey Sun 28-Oct-12 20:38:58

Precisely, slipperynipple.

On my way home now after a day at the ILs. I do hope I have clean knickers for work tomorrow, or it's going to be an emergency M&S dash on the way in.

raspberrytipple Sun 28-Oct-12 21:19:20

But northey it's not New Year sales yet? You can only buy pants from m&s in the post Christmas sales, it's like the law or something. And then you have to discuss the purchases with the really old lady in the queue next to you who insists on telling you inappropriate things.....or is that just me that happens to?

I'm off to bed, it's feels like 1030!!

SinkyGoodenplenty Sun 28-Oct-12 21:28:22

That's just you I think slipperynipple

(I intend to make this name run and run until you change to a bond feeme one)

I was wondering why I'm so sleepy. It's bloody 11pm according to my body clock. On that basis, think I'll head to bed.

Northey Sun 28-Oct-12 22:12:34

Do the cheapie packs of five ever even go into the sale, nips?

Am knackered too, sinky. Ugh.

Barely slept wondering if there were clean norf-knicks

Droidal pain didn't help, mind, but mostly it was pants suspense smile

Northey Mon 29-Oct-12 07:41:38

Well you will be happy to know that my arse is safely embraced by a pair of sparkly clean knicks.

Sorry for droidal woe <blows up droid with exploding pen>

FrankelDeBeauvoir Mon 29-Oct-12 07:54:21

Are you on your way to work Norf? Take it easy young lady, don't feel you need to jump straight back in to full-steam-ahead.

Northey Mon 29-Oct-12 08:20:39

Yup. Feeling a little anxious but basically in control. Task 1 on arrival - phone occupational health and discuss how they support re-entry after extended sick leave...

evilgiraffe Mon 29-Oct-12 09:06:12

Morning all. Hope you have a good day back, norf.

It is not too miserable here today, hoorah, it's been so gloomy for days seeing the full moon was the most sunlight we'd had... So, I am trying to motivate myself to go out on my bike. Maybe I should turn it ino a Bond bike, with blades in the hubs to slash the tyres of inconsiderate drivers.

EuroShagmore Mon 29-Oct-12 10:53:25

Morning Bond-schlags.

<Admires Norfy's nicks>

All the bigwigs from our headoffice are over here today. I am A Noid because my lovely new work skirt that I had been saving for today has a belt loop missing. So I need to take it back. It was £80 so you don't really expect bits missing. Grrr.

raspberrytipple Mon 29-Oct-12 12:27:54

Ok, I'm on my phone at the moment but when I get in tonight if I can workout how to name change I shall morph into 'MissSlap'n'tipple'. I shall have massive norks that fire tranquillisers and pants that also function as a parachute smile

JustBuggerlugs Mon 29-Oct-12 13:05:15

Loving the new name tips!

Anyone care to suggest one for me?
My thoughts are:


Anyone wiser than me care to suggest a good nc?

JustBuggerlugs Mon 29-Oct-12 13:06:44

oooooh totally forgot to say I've convinced GP to take some drucks so i have just been to the local heath food shop and bought him so expensive pills specifically for male fertility.

They are £13 for 30 days worth so i'm hoping the do the trick. Think they take 70 ish days to kick in as thats how often new swimmers are made.

EuroShagmore Mon 29-Oct-12 14:27:29

I rather like Bugsygalore.

KFZK is pants at taking anything. He gets through one packet to about 6 of mine. I've given up.

But in happier news I just got my annual medical results. The one result they couldn't give me on the day was my smear. And it has come back clear! Given it was rated as a mild abnormality in my May smear, and mild to moderate when the gynae repeated it in June, I am hugely relieved that this one is clear. It still showed the presence of high risk HPV but I hope this is a sign that my body is fighting it off! I am so, so glad that I refused treatment in August. And I now don't need to lie to the IVF clinic about my last smear! Phew.

<Does happy dance>

FrankelDeBeauvoir Mon 29-Oct-12 15:28:11

Hurrah Euro, that's fantastic news grin You obviously have an impressive immune system!

Bugs, I vote Bugsygalore too.

I am menkulling away over here: my left nip feels funny blush. It keeps tingling hmm Of course, being 3 dpo it's an obvious diffage indicator <slaps self with a salmon>

In other news, my BF is being induced today. She's now 2 weeks overdue and they've had enough of waiting for baybee to put in an appearance! <excited>

Northey Mon 29-Oct-12 16:36:49

Woo hoo for a sparkly cervix, euro! Nicely judged, missshagmore.

I vote bugsygalore as well.

Northey Mon 29-Oct-12 16:38:22

A funny feeling left nipple was my first sign last year, frankel!

BugsyGalore Mon 29-Oct-12 18:35:02

<shimmies in wearing a delicately beaded gold dress>

Hello, my name is Bugsy, Bugsy Galore and I has a license to thrill smile

Well done Euro on the results. <admires cervix>

FrankelDeBeauvoir Mon 29-Oct-12 19:38:37

This evening I have made a chocolate cola cake. That is all grin

Northey Mon 29-Oct-12 19:48:50

The nigella recipe? Is it nice??

FrankelDeBeauvoir Mon 29-Oct-12 20:17:02

No, the James Martin one. I don't know how it differs from Nigella's, but tis scrumptious grin

MissSlapAndTipple Mon 29-Oct-12 21:22:10

So there we first ever mumsnet name change......

bugs I definitely vote Bugsygalore!

HavingALittleFaithBaby Mon 29-Oct-12 21:38:01

bugs me too! smile nice change MissSlap!

norf hope the first day back was ok and you got your return sorted alright.

congrats to euro's fanjo for healing itself grin

EuroShagmore Mon 29-Oct-12 22:54:33

I love it that a bunch of internet strangers are congratulating me for getting rid of the fanny verrucae. The wonders of mumsnet!

Thanks ladies. Group hug?

Northey Tue 30-Oct-12 07:13:11

Stop trying to find excuses to have a grope, euro.

I hope ariel is ok, with her father and everything.

FrankelDeBeauvoir Tue 30-Oct-12 07:53:18

I was wondering about Aries too Norf, I do hope she's ok.

FrankelDeBeauvoir Tue 30-Oct-12 08:30:15

We are a godmother grin

My best mate gave birth to Oliver at 5.30 this morning after a 16 hour labour. I can't stop grin-ing!

HavingALittleFaithBaby Tue 30-Oct-12 08:34:44

Ah wonderful news Frank! grin I luff that name actually perhaps a little too much because of a Top Gear episode when they went to Africa and that's what the hamster named his car!

euro I do believe I congratulated your fanjo directly! smile

EuroShagmore Tue 30-Oct-12 11:11:51

My mistake, faif. wink

Aw, Frankel that's lovely. My friend had her baby at 4.30 yesterday after a quick labour. They both look great. No name yet though!

evilgiraffe Tue 30-Oct-12 17:18:35

Hurrah for babies! Well done all respective friends.

I have a letter from the hospital - I am to report to the ultrasound clinic on Monday evening to see if they can figure out this long-droid nonsense. We shall see... 5pm is going to be hideous, though, isn't it? <prepares for appointment to be 45mins late>

ArielThePiraticalMermaid Tue 30-Oct-12 21:52:15

Hello BESHes. Frank found me on another fred and asked how stuff was.

Stuff is terrible actually, my love. Utterly, utterly shit. I'm not gonna lie to you <Nessa> Father is really very very very poorly.

But thanks for asking <touched>

Northey Tue 30-Oct-12 22:08:27

Crap, ariel, I'm really very very sorry to hear that. Is it dementia? It is an utter bastard of a condition and so cruel to the sufferer and their family sad

FrankelDeBeauvoir Tue 30-Oct-12 22:19:56

Oh I'm really sorry Rie (((un-BESHly hugs))). We're all here whenever you want to rant/cry/scream/get pished.

ArielThePiraticalMermaid Tue 30-Oct-12 22:34:59

It's not dementia. It's extreme depression, anxiety and now psychosis. Fucking nightmare.

SinkyGoodenplenty Tue 30-Oct-12 22:37:49

Sorry rie. Sounds dreadful. I have a not-that-bad depressed mother and that can be hellish at times. I can't even imagine how tough things must be for you at the moment.

Look after yourself.

HavingALittleFaithBaby Tue 30-Oct-12 22:38:30

Sorry to hear things have escalated to psychosis rie sad what a rough time for you and your family. You know where we are if you want us.

EuroShagmore Tue 30-Oct-12 22:39:16

Oh that sounds awful Rie. How are you bearing up?

Draf I think a mere 45 min delay sounds ambitious.

I am flipping shattered. Off to bed. Night Besh.

ArielThePiraticalMermaid Tue 30-Oct-12 22:56:06

Fanks hags.

How am I bearing up? Er...dunno. Up and down, you know. Sometimes ok, sometimes in such grief, guilt and it's like my heart's breaking. Then ok again.

ArielThePiraticalMermaid Tue 30-Oct-12 23:10:47

On another note entirely, anyone else loving series two of Fresh Meat?

Northey Tue 30-Oct-12 23:29:12

I'm so sorry. I don't want to imagine how awful it must be.

Are you taking care of yourself properly - eating and sleeping ok?

HavingALittleFaithBaby Wed 31-Oct-12 06:29:22

We are rie but on catch up 11 is too late on a school night! smile

lovesLemonDrizzleCake Wed 31-Oct-12 06:42:21

Oh Rie so sorry to hear how bad your dad is. Many sympathies. No watching anything at 11pm smile too old for that! But is it worthwhile catching up?

How is work going norf?

And how's the new role faif?

I am tired it is too early, but I am off to work already...

Northey Wed 31-Oct-12 07:29:15

Work is ok-ish, lem. People are being kind, but there is no-one to sort of make me take care of myself, if you see what I mean. I'm meant to be working short hours, but am so panicky about not achieving anything in them that I am actually working my normal hours anyway. On my way in now for an early meeting, for example confused And I just feel lumpen and slow in both body and mind.

How was your own return?

<sneaks in a hug for rie>

<glares sternly at norf, reminding her to look after herself>

evilgiraffe Wed 31-Oct-12 08:58:02

<hugs for all>

Sorry so many people are having a shitty time sad

EuroShagmore Wed 31-Oct-12 10:28:33

Oh Rie. I feel for you. I did the grieving without bereavement when my mum was diagnosed with cancer for the second time. It was enormously tough.

I feel absolutely shattered at the moment. I'm not sure why. Tired in body and mind and just out of sorts. Meh.

Maybe something in the weather euro. I feel so low at the minute. I came into work after a few days off and people were yapping - I wanted to scream. I had family staying with me and it was so noisy and busy and fun, when they left it all felt so quiet and empty. Like all I do is struggle through work then come home. No point to it at all.

BugsyGalore Wed 31-Oct-12 12:47:16

Afternoon hags

Rie sorry things are rubbish, here have some gin.

Can i just say I luff how some BESH have renamed giraffe to Draf!!!

POAS this morning, just for the sheer fun of it. BFN. You know the CD23 madness just sort of took over!

FrankelDeBeauvoir Wed 31-Oct-12 13:20:22

Definitely agree the weather lends itself to low moods. I wonder if its a SAD type thing, what with the nights drawing in.

I confess I had a teary phone call with HWHNN last night, probably brought on in part by the arrival of my BFs little boy. Don't get me wrong, I'm over the moon for her, I know he was a hard fought win and she had to deal with her mother's death in the middle of TTC, but I am more than a small bit jealous and feeling sorry for myself in a "why not me?" sort of way.

As HWHNN keeps saying, I must learn to be more positive. I'm already assuming, without reason, that this cycle has failed and I'm only bloody 5 dpo <silly cow>.

Right, off for lunch. I have some of my chocolate cola caked stashed in my handbag for later grin

ArielThePiraticalMermaid Wed 31-Oct-12 14:45:16

Well I would drink the gin, Bugger, but I am Off The Sauce grin

ArielThePiraticalMermaid Wed 31-Oct-12 14:46:09

PS <pre-emts any hysteria>

I'm not diffed. I have had my IUI appt through to start learning how to do the needles. 29th November.

evilgiraffe Wed 31-Oct-12 15:13:31

Miserable weather here too. I am feeling a bit smug due to cycling twenty miles this morning though smile

Frankel - I always assume I'm not diffed. It's just easier than the endless up and down of hope and misery - if I assume not pregnant, it's much less upsetting.

ArielThePiraticalMermaid Wed 31-Oct-12 15:16:38

Frank, me too. I have only ever done three pregnancy tests, as I never believe I am so there's no point wasting the money. It's funny, even when we first started, despite us both being healthy, "normal", slim non smokers I never thought I would get pregnant. That's why I joined the BESH one month in.

FrankelDeBeauvoir Wed 31-Oct-12 15:51:46

evil, that's what I think, but HWHNN is of the "positive mental attitude" school of thought. He's not suggesting that I should think I'm pregnant every time, but says (and he has a point) that I should concentrate on the positives - I reacted quickly to the drugs, I grew 2 luffly big follicles, we had the sechs at the right time & I ovulated. We've done everything we can.

He balances me (aka moody old cow) out quite well!

I always try to tell myself I'm not diffed but symptom spotting always gets the better of me. I never imagined we would have trouble.

On an aside - AAARRRGGGHHH my team at work are so fucking needy!!!

EuroShagmore Wed 31-Oct-12 16:22:03

Rie I am with you. I haven't used a pregnancy test in months and months. There's no point. I've even given up symptom spotting. I do temp for the last few days of the cycle though, so I get a bit of warning when Droid is about to arrive.

And I was exactly the same - I just knew we would have problems. I went to the GP after 5 cycles. I thought we might as well get the ball rolling.

Northey Wed 31-Oct-12 16:26:12

Me too. I have honestly somehow known since I was at school practically that this would not work normally for me.

FrankelDeBeauvoir Wed 31-Oct-12 17:06:56

I've had an inkling something was wrong in my plumbing since school too. I was almost 15 before I started my periods and they were all over the place for about a year (bleeding every 2 weeks) before they put me on the pill.

My periods have been.fucked for years - super heavy long bleeds including the aforementioned 30 day droid yet I didn't take this as a sign. What a fucking idiot.

EuroShagmore Wed 31-Oct-12 17:33:05

Me too, although I didn't have anything really concrete to make me think that. Slightly wonky cycles (4-6 weeks long), a possible pcos diagnosis but I always just knew.

The only time when I thought I might be wrong was in the 9 months between me having what I am sure was a chem preg and us properly starting trying. In that time I thought if it had almost happened by accident then maybe it would be alright. But no.

Right, I'm off now to visit the newborn. Wish me luck!

FrankelDeBeauvoir Wed 31-Oct-12 17:46:18

Good luck Shaggy, I've not seen Oliver yet. He had to stay in hospital for observation last night as he was very sleepy and generally a bit poorly. Nothing wrong with him, it's likely that the induction was a bit of a shock to his system is all.

ArielThePiraticalMermaid Wed 31-Oct-12 18:16:37

I always just knew, despite my having a droid every month without fail since I was 13 and a half! For ages I wasn't bothered about baybees, then I got to 34 and started minding when other people made announcements and deduced that we perhaps should start trying too. But I never thought it would work and time just lapsed by. Suddenly I am 38 next birthday.

Funny old world, ain't it?

Northey Wed 31-Oct-12 19:06:15

Good luck, europa.

Yup, frankel and winkly. I went through sixth form bleeding on more days than not, and occasionally flooding through super tampax in half an hour. And then in my late twenties somehow went to two or three droids a year. Why in God's name I didn't start getting myself in order two years before starting ttc I can't think.

How're things today, aries?

lovesLemonDrizzleCake Wed 31-Oct-12 19:49:01

<stamps foot and looks crossly for errant post>

I wrote a long and friendly chatty one which got eaten by the internet gormlies. But the bottom line was:

Good luck shagger, you will survive the newborn. I am really impressed, I am due my first baby visit this coming weekend, looking forward to seeing the parents, not having the babe thrust in my arms, but they know so might be restrained

And STERN look at norf for working too hard. Don't do it. It is not worth it. I was back straight away but did a fair bit of sneaky cries, hiding in the loos and not being particularly productive. Now I am back to speed, my manager is a little shocked about my productivity. It was down a lot for the first few months in this job.

And sneaky pets and spidery soup for Arie. I am just sorry.

lovesLemonDrizzleCake Wed 31-Oct-12 19:50:35

Oh and on premonition about this shite ttc journey [boaking smiley, with a witches hat, of course]. I had none. I was early to normal starting periods, fairly regular and utterly paranoid about getting diffed before. My parents had trouble too, so I always knew it was a possibility. But I was honestly quite surprised I didn't get instadiffs like my sister, she had 3

MissSlapAndTipple Wed 31-Oct-12 20:22:05

I always assumed I'd need IVF, in fact I can remember talking to a tutor at school about it and she told me about her twin nieces who were IVF babies. If you said that to an insta-diff they would instantly assume BESHness was due to negative thinking. I'd probably forced to tell them to fuck off.

My boobs really hurt sad AF is on it's way, I'm mega hungry, farty (although that could be the veg from my tea) and now I'm feeling sick because we've had no T&Ters due to pissing down rain so obviously I've had to try and get rid of all the chocolate .my.self.obviously.

Sorry to hear things have got worse with your dad rie. My mum gave us cause for concern a while back, almost borderline bi polar and it was scary not knowing how things were turning out. Thankfully a review of her meds and acknowledgement that menopause mixed with depression needs tighter control than she was willing to admit at the time saw her actually get sorted but she still has moments and it panics me a bit.

north take it easy! Nothing is more important than your health, it really isn't.

EuroShagmore Wed 31-Oct-12 21:20:29

Evening BESH. The newborn was gorgeous - happily snuggled in my arms for most of the visit. KFZK held him too <swoon>. There is something about a tiny baby cradled in manly arms.

I'm wiped out though. I feel completely knackered - I have all day. Maybe I am coming down with something. Meh.

Norf I hope you are not overdoing it, lovely.

Northey Wed 31-Oct-12 21:27:09

Where are you cycle-wise, shagster? <curious>

I know what you mean about men with babies.

I saw Occupational Health today and, after a surprising but brief moment of choking back tearfulness, we had a v sensible and helpful chat. She's going to recommend that I work mornings only for a fortnight and that I access the department counselling service.

ArielThePiraticalMermaid Wed 31-Oct-12 21:31:22

Your work sound nice Norf

lovesLemonDrizzleCake Wed 31-Oct-12 21:36:10

Well done norf. Are you actually going to do counselling? That sounds like a good plan. And ten points to your occie healf!

Northey Wed 31-Oct-12 21:38:30

Public sector fluffiness, rie. Quite gold-plated hand-holding in some ways. Less so in others.

Going to phone the counselling service tomorrow.

HavingALittleFaithBaby Wed 31-Oct-12 21:38:32

Evening all! Re testing etc, initially I wasn't too bad, then discovery of Internet cheapies sent me menkul. I had scaled back the testing. Idle curiosity made me test with the BFP due to the epic vomming envy I assumed we'd win a baybee dead easy. But then I guess it was different cos it wasn't my plumbing in the end?

drizz fanks for asking re work (about 12 hours ago - I've been there all day!).. Tis hard work being on the ward! I am still finding my feet and struggling with find management although today wasn't so bad smile I'll get there. At least I am past the first trimester puking and knackeredness!

HavingALittleFaithBaby Wed 31-Oct-12 21:39:43

Ooh x-posts good on you norf. I luff counselling. I luff to talk about myself you see hmm but seriously I think it'll do you good.

ArielThePiraticalMermaid Wed 31-Oct-12 21:50:45

Did anyone catch what I wrote upthread? I am starting the Drucks in December!!!11! Brill timing or wot? A have a month to desist from the Evils of Drink

HavingALittleFaithBaby Wed 31-Oct-12 21:55:01

Excellent news that they are sending you the drucks and edumacating you rie! That means abstention over the festive period though? Cone join me on the couch of sobriety. I do not really miss the booze (I'd cut down loads anyway) but I will really, really miss Winter Pimms sad

FrankelDeBeauvoir Wed 31-Oct-12 21:56:22

Well done Rie! Are you on pills or stabbing?

FrankelDeBeauvoir Wed 31-Oct-12 21:57:55

Of course, if I read your post properly I would know the answer blush

Stabbing is not so bad. I highly recommend the use of an ice cube to numb the area. The difference when I didn't use one was, well, ouchy.

ArielThePiraticalMermaid Wed 31-Oct-12 22:00:29

I will not miss booze i will not miss booze i will not miss booze i will not miss booze i will not miss booze. And it won't be remotely festive this year anyway. Every cloud.

Stabbing Frank

Northey Wed 31-Oct-12 22:02:40

Oh yes, I did see that, but you said it so calmly I thought it must be something well known ! <passes blame back>

ArielThePiraticalMermaid Wed 31-Oct-12 22:04:49

I am calm i am calm i am calm i am calm i am calm i am calm! I AM CALM!

FrankelDeBeauvoir Wed 31-Oct-12 22:06:27

You'll be fine Rie, the lack of booze isn't that bad <honest>

evilgiraffe Wed 31-Oct-12 23:35:02

Hurrah! Good news, rie smile

Regarding predictive BESHness, I had no clue. Droids were regular from the word go at age twelve, and never had any issues. I was a bit suspicious when droid took a while to come back after stopping the pill, but on the whole assumed diffedness would occur within a year like all the statistics say. How wrong I was.

EuroShagmore Thu 01-Nov-12 10:18:15

Norf I'm just at the tail end of Droid, so the exhaustion is not causing any menkulling, thankfully.

How are you doing? Your work sounds pretty supportive. (My industry is not noted for its fluffiness. Once, when a US partner in my former firm was told that someone in London could not be reached because he was at a funeral, the reply was "He's at a funeral? Does he have a cell phone?")

Rie not that I want to help you to fall off the wagon or anything, but when my friend had her FET she had no expectations that it would work and carried on drinking. That's the one that resulted in identical twins... I didn't drink for my cancelled cycle but if we try again in the New Year, I am actually planning on light drinking, just keeping everything as normal as possible (and light drinking is what I have done for most of the past two years of ttc, save for the months when I gave up completely when I felt miserable). The odd glass stops the awkward questions too. The last thing most IVFers want is people asking awkward questions at work events or whatever.

I can't stop looking at the photo KFZK took of me cuddling the newborn last night. <Mega broody>

FrankelDeBeauvoir Thu 01-Nov-12 10:52:16

Wotcha biatches wink How was everyone's Halloween? I only had 2 visitors (very cute little girls from our estate in princessy style witch outfits), so I have a not insignificant bowl of chocolate eyeballs waiting to be scoffed grin

In menkul update, my boobs seem bigger. I'm probably imagining it (or wishful thinking. I am an A cup after all), but it's all adding fuel to the fire confused

evilgiraffe Thu 01-Nov-12 11:33:21

Halloween party at friends house was great fun until I had to look at scan pictures I carved a giant cock into a pumpkin grin

EuroShagmore Thu 01-Nov-12 12:08:29

I one carved the word wine into a pumpkin, draf. Nice work on the cock.

Interesting, FDR, interesting. My boobs always seem a bit fuller post-ov, but it is supposed to be A Sign.

FrankelDeBeauvoir Thu 01-Nov-12 14:18:43

BF has just sent me pictures of her little boy. I have something in my eye <sniff>

He's been given the all clear but she's struggling with feeding a bit so they're letting her stay in another night.

Northey Thu 01-Nov-12 16:45:04

Oh poor souls, I hope they are ok.

Bah, euro, I was hoping it was a sign for you.

Work is good about this sort of thing. Civil service, innit?

Nice tits, frank.

<eyes up Frank's buzwums>

Northey Fri 02-Nov-12 06:46:40

Last day of first week back. Made it. And off to Wales tonight.

FrankelDeBeauvoir Fri 02-Nov-12 06:54:37

Well done Norf.

Blood test for me this morning.

Northey Fri 02-Nov-12 07:18:20

What is that to check for, frank? Are you up to the potential diffedness point already?

FrankelDeBeauvoir Fri 02-Nov-12 07:35:18

It's a progesterone check to make sure I ov'd. I'm 7 dpo today, according to my temps. I'm interested to know what the progesterone level is as I had 2 follicles ready to go. I'm assuming that if the level is very high I laid both at the same time = higher chance of twins. I won't get the results back till Tuesday though as I'm having the blood taken at my GP's and it takes 2 days to get the results.

Boobs still feel bigger than normal, not by much though. However, I did some reading and it says boob issues are caused by progesterone which is present whether you are diffed or not. If I ov'd twice then progesterone would be higher and I'd notice any changes more.

I'm under instruction that I can't test till 11th.

Northey Fri 02-Nov-12 07:39:40

<watches the frankelboobs carefully>

lovesLemonDrizzleCake Fri 02-Nov-12 08:51:00

Nice pair of boobies frank. And wow at progesteron testing. That sounds useful. Although for me bigger boobs are most a Sign that I am in the second half of my cycle. When diffed they discovered a whole new level of bigness (particularly the nipples shock and they still haven't returned to normal entirely) and soreness. But only after 5 weeks.

Sorry I overlooked the stabbing announcement rie. It will be okay, and maybe, just maybe, you'll win a baybee smile But it seems a bit much with your dad and all that shit, so I hope you'll hold up okay.

Enjoy the weekend in Wales, norf and massive well done for getting through the first week back. I am working from home! Sadly, I actually have a lot to do...

lovesLemonDrizzleCake Fri 02-Nov-12 08:56:25

Draff sorry about the scan pics, I have been tempted to ask for those from my failed pg and use them agains the gloaty ones. But as I have been very upfront about the MC people have been very considerate.

I went for dinner at recently diffed, multiple MC friend last night (it took 5MCs to get her little boy, now 1, and since it took a while, they started trying recently and now the first bean seems sticky). She had asked me what I fancied for dinner, so I said Raw Meat as a joke. So when I arrived, her adorable little boy was having dessert and there was a plate of nice carpaccio and red wine waiting for me.

So sorry about new-born photos really bringing home the broodiness shaggie. And shock at the fluffiness of your business. Thankfully you're not in the American part of your profession.

On Halloween I was out until past trick and treating time, which is just as well, as all the sweets I had in the house were polished off on Tuesday evening.

I wish I was working from home today. I have a very un-glamorous tasking this morning and am very a touch concerned for my personal safety...

lovesLemonDrizzleCake Fri 02-Nov-12 08:58:47

Oh frank we're cycle buddies smile I think I layed mine last Thursday. 11/11 is a good date for testing, and 16dpo. If you haven't got the droid by then, you know you're in with a chance. I won't be here to hand hold, as SB and I are away for two weeks from next Friday, but until then we can menkul together.

lovesLemonDrizzleCake Fri 02-Nov-12 08:59:33

That sounds rubbish winkly. Have you got back up in case you are rightly concerned about safety?

evilgiraffe Fri 02-Nov-12 09:31:25

Ooo, winkly, what are you doing? <intrigued>

Fingers crossed for the test, Frank! It sounds interesting - I always love getting tested for stuff.

Was off to arrest some v violent people, but they weren't there. Pants.

EuroShagmore Fri 02-Nov-12 10:46:33

Winkly that sounds intriguing...

Driz your friend sounds ace, getting you red wine and raw meat!

I actually have to get down to work today, as I am off to The Santuary tonight and want to escape early. Me and a friend do it about once a year - we get a massage and then laze around eating chips, drinking champagne and having a catch up!

My friend's Facebook status today:

" A baby will make love stronger, days shorter, nights longer, bank balance smaller, home happier, clothes dirty, the past forgotten, and the future worth living for"

How quickly she forgets her own painful ttc issues angry

My days often sound intriguing shagsy but they are also incredibly busy, stressful and often scary.

EuroShagmore Fri 02-Nov-12 13:23:10

I'd have to message her for that. Does she know you are having problems? If so, she is a thoughtless cow.

HavingALittleFaithBaby Fri 02-Nov-12 13:51:33

I thought it was more like Having a baybee will test your relationship more than anything else in life?!

I am round me Dad's with DNephew. Now he is 3 he's quite hilarious but also rather cuddly these days which is luffly! smile

evilgiraffe Fri 02-Nov-12 14:04:36

"The future worth living for"? I am gobsmacked. What an appallingly self-righteous statement. Those of us who are not parents must be suicidal drains on society, we are clearly of no use to anyone.

It reminds me of the daft yellow "baby on board" signs. I've always liked the idea of getting one that says "I have not yet been blessed with children; however I'd very much appreciate it if you could refrain from rear-ending me all the same". It's not quite so catchy, though, granted.

Northey Fri 02-Nov-12 14:45:29

What a stupid little moo cow. Even if she hasn't the imagination to see beyond that ridiculous statement, she could surely have the memory of the reasons why she should refrain from posting it. Hide hide hide...

EuroShagmore Fri 02-Nov-12 15:18:57

Draf I think there would be a ready market for those. <Prepares laminator>

FrankelDeBeauvoir Fri 02-Nov-12 15:25:40

I'll buy one grin

A Facebook acquaintance once posted something along the lines of "A life without children is nothing" hmm I resisted the temptation to reply "I'll just pop off and drown myself then shall I?" and blocked her instead. She was one of those types with a weekly "I'm now 22 weeks and the size of a grapefruit" vomit-inducing embryo updates <weirdo>

HavingALittleFaithBaby Fri 02-Nov-12 15:29:37

I point blank refuse to have one of those growy things. I was loathe to do the picture announcement but MSB wanted to. I will not have an immediately post birth white as a sheet photo with baybee put on FB either.

Insensitivity like that is cringeworthy at the best of times but as someone who previously had TTC ishoos she deserves a <fish slap>

DolomitesDonkey Fri 02-Nov-12 15:31:15

I just wanted to say hello everyone, I'm reading back trying to stalk find out more about your new members. I think of you all every single day and I hope your dreams can come true very soon. x n.b., I don't have a yellow "baby on board" sticker in my car because I'm not a cunt.

<realises life has no meaning>

<sashays off in glitzy dress searching for apt Bond Girl stylee death>


FrankelDeBeauvoir Fri 02-Nov-12 15:44:01

Shagged to death by Mr Craig would be apt, eh winkly? wink

evilgiraffe Fri 02-Nov-12 15:45:09

LOL "not a cunt" grin donkey, I think I love you grin grin grin

The growy ticker things are vom-worthy. I don't mind the first scan announcement pics, though - it is at least an easy way to get the news. My friends who know about TTC woes have told me in person beforehand anyway which is nice.

Oooh yeah fdb I could do with some death sechs from Daniel Craig. If he could just pop round and do me in so I don't have to work my weekend on, that would be great!

Lol at "not a cunt". But what about the pink glittery "princess on board" ones? If I had one it would say something like "no kids so I'm not worried about anyone seeing me do violence if you hit the back of my car".

FrankelDeBeauvoir Fri 02-Nov-12 16:29:13

Oo, oo I knew there was something I meant to mention. I was on TK Maxx (aka 7th Circle of Hell) t'other day, and my eye was drawn to a top made by, wait for it, BESH7 grin

BESH fashion would have to include skyscraper heels, lots of white (nice and impractical for kids) and ample cleavage on display dontcha think grin

Northey Fri 02-Nov-12 16:30:29

Carpathiancunt for new username please, donkey.

EuroShagmore Fri 02-Nov-12 16:36:26

Heh@not a cvnt!

I love the idea of BESH fashion. And laminated signs. Perhaps we should go into business? It would be better than this law gig anyway.

BTW, this talk of those baby on board stickers has made me think. Should I get one? I have a two seater sports car. I could get a lifelike doll and shove it head down in the gap behind the driver's seat. Whaddya reckon?

Do it do it! And I'll go to tesco, pick up loads of wine and chocolate and nappies, and when I see the total at the till shake my head and say "Can I put the nappies back please?"

Breaking news - my Next delivery of work clothes has arrived; sechsy suicide has been postponed until I am bored by my wardrobe again.

If someone else is on facebook (I need to stop looking at facebook) asking us to click on a link and vote for their kid in a "cutest child" competition, AIBU to vote for someone else's kid?

I actually quite like getting pregnancy announcements via facebook. I have to find out about it sooner or later, and if its done that way, it gives me time to find my "I'm ohsohappy for you" face.

ArielThePiraticalMermaid Fri 02-Nov-12 20:36:09

Ah. My life has no meaning. The future is pointless. I have not procreated.

She needs a smack round the chops.

ArielThePiraticalMermaid Fri 02-Nov-12 20:38:13

Ah. My life has no meaning. The future is pointless. I have not procreated.

She needs a smack round the chops.

ArielThePiraticalMermaid Fri 02-Nov-12 20:38:59

Bugger. Phone. First time I've ever done that.

FrankelDeBeauvoir Fri 02-Nov-12 21:08:58

You been at the wine Rie? wink

I have smile

Morning all

Droid finished and should ov in about a week. Anyone care to take a punt on how many times Husband will do sechs with me? (hint - 0 is not an unlikely guess) <bitter>

Northey Sat 03-Nov-12 06:58:36

<mounts soapbox> Will he spoff in a cup and let you syringe it in?

Slept appallingly badly last night after too rich a dinner yesterday. And then woke early to hear torrential rain - v distressing as the throws from the sofa are still out on the line. WHY didn't I bring them in? WHY?

Probably not norf. Even though he probably wastes gallons of it when I'm not around. We get on so well and he's great in every other way but utterly shit at that.

Rubbish about your throws. You going to have to wash them again? Hope the dinner was worth the insomnia.

Am about to head to work, since July 2 people from my small team have been taken off to be put on attachments and one has gone sick with stress. Shit.

Northey Sat 03-Nov-12 08:02:31

I'm not sure - I'm hoping a quick spin cycle will get them dry enough to hang out again <yearns for tumble dryer at this precise moment> The ILs are coming for lunch tomorrow and I want clean-looking fresh-smelling sofas! Bastard mud-loving cats.

Why doesn't he want to do the sechs?

lovesLemonDrizzleCake Sat 03-Nov-12 08:03:41

Morning to those who have no life worf living! (And those who are not cvnts!)

One of my cousins had the bloody annoying one with the short night and life worth living. I didn't get too irate, because I didn't read to the end. And they're generally vom-inducing. But now I have read it to the end I am appalled.

Yay for the business in car signs, but I don't have car, shall I tack one to the back of my bike? Oh and please do, euro the doll had down in the back. It would be GOOD.

I'll go with an optimistic twice, winkly. Because I think he should <stern look at the winklyman>

Oh, and we're clearly still in summer time, it is 8am on a Saturday and we're up, post-sechsing. And to answer to my colleague (who wondered how one fills the sprogless weekends, if you recall), I intend to drag SB to a caf for brunch and Saturday papers. I might swim and then cook and bake.

Oh and I am menkulling, and at counselling yesterday we discussed hope and despair (get your crayons out if you want to do more by proxy norf) and that hope can be there, if you face your despair and all that shit. But I faced despair and am now damned with unreasonable hope. I am not diffed, am I?

lovesLemonDrizzleCake Sat 03-Nov-12 08:04:45

sad about the throws norf. Spinning I always find is the answer. It depends on how bad the torrential was, did it involve mud-slinging?

Northey Sat 03-Nov-12 08:10:25

Ooh, what did you have to draw? Was it a picture of you post miscarriage (sad face), a pic of you as you are now (conflicted face) and a picture of you as you hope to be (happy face)?

Maybe you are diffed. No reason why not.

I am in the bath, like a Topp Bond Gurl. Except with hairier legs.

Northey Sat 03-Nov-12 08:12:17

They are cream throws, lem, naturally. And they look ok from the window, though are just trailing on the floor. I think I need to go out and examine them. They needn't be perfect, just free from all the muddy cat gunk with which they had previously been covered.

lovesLemonDrizzleCake Sat 03-Nov-12 08:24:57

Cat gunk replaced by garden gunk. Sounds like an improvement to me.

Actually I am grin face now. I feel way better and am actually happy (and admitted as much). I had to face the despair that I feel thinking about starting treatment again, I called it a monster that I wanted to hide and then I had to draw it. Quite powerful (even though I was as ever sceptic). So there's two monsters on the dining room table, to be looked at occasionally...

lovesLemonDrizzleCake Sat 03-Nov-12 08:25:45

PS envy I want a bath. SB is out the shower, time for breakfast!

Dunno why he doesn't want sechs. It's been a problem for a fairly long time now. Been having couples therapy but haven't got anything more than 'I'm lazy'. I've lost the will to keep getting knocked back over and over again.

Driz glad you're grin - even if it is hard to get over the 'woo'ness, seems like the counselling is doing the job. Good luck with the menkulling!

<strokes norf's hairy legs>

HavingALittleFaithBaby Sat 03-Nov-12 10:43:20

wink you really do have my sympathy with the lack of sechsing on his part. Has he been checked for underlying health problems? Just lazy doesn't sound right. MSB had health problems lowering his libido. Once that was found and treated it became much better although there's much less sechs since I've been diffed

drizz sounds like you're making progress even if some of the exercises make you hmm

norf I assume you are currently in Wales so in some ways you were being a bit optimistic to leave throws out all night and expect it not to rain! I'd rinse and spin them smile

Re the cvnt car signs - I understood they were there for emergency services to know if there might be a baybee in the back if you couldn't tell them. Someone near the rented house we had had a bump on board sign though. There I draw the line!

evilgiraffe Sat 03-Nov-12 10:55:43

I think the emergency services thing is an urban myth, faif. People don't remove the signs when kids aren't in the car, for a start. These days seatbelts and carseats are pretty good at containing passengers, and there's no way the emergency services wouldn't check the interior as a matter of course.

Bump on board is particularly awful, I agree!

"Dad's Taxi" always amuses me though - presumably used in cars where adults are chauffeuring their fathers around?

He went and had his blood pressure checked and talked with the docs, but the let him blame it on stress and shift work. Which, frankly, is bollocks.

lovesLemonDrizzleCake Sat 03-Nov-12 11:11:29

I agree with the urban myth theory, draff. But it's like faif to think of a not-cvntish explanation. I agree with the checking winkly man for medical ishoos, as it is unusual to be too lazy for sechsing (although this morning I was, and then someone complained I was not very active angry)

It is hard to get past the wooness. And I hate the fact that clearly these woo-ish or child-ish ways of facing up to my isshoos are helping, where really I am a competent adult and I should be able to deal in a grown up, eminently reasonable way. Oh well... Apparantly not. My counsellor says I am extremely good at the cognitive part of dealing, but it is not enough to handle the Big Emotions that come with BESHy shit. So I get to do things MILES outside my comfort zone. She was well impressed I didn't point blank refuse to draw monsters yesterday. But I was thinking I might as well give it a try (and the scary thing is how much good the three sessions and homework have done me already).

The question is to swim or to make cheese toasties?

lovesLemonDrizzleCake Sat 03-Nov-12 11:13:06

His doc let him get away with blaming it on shift work hmm Does he have incredibly physical shift work? Or did he not own up to how bad it was? Becauss it is one thing to have a little lowered libido, but quite another to refuse all sechsing to you wife, with whom you TTCing...

HavingALittleFaithBaby Sat 03-Nov-12 11:20:39

'Xactly drizz. wink did they check his swimmers? They should really have at least checked bloods for stuff like his thyroid

My source of info for the emergency services was MN hmm

lovesLemonDrizzleCake Sat 03-Nov-12 11:26:56

You know you can't trust MN except for this fred. But it might mean not all people showing those signs are cvnts, some of them are gullible MNers wink

HavingALittleFaithBaby Sat 03-Nov-12 11:35:23

Hence me saying I understood rather than saying it was fact grin

They just checked his blood pressure at that time, I think he probably underplayed the matter a lot. We've not shagged for a whole month!

BugsyGalore Sat 03-Nov-12 18:17:43

God i am so utterly shite at keeping in touch at the moment.

Hi to everyone, arf at Cunt!!

I am just trying to read the instructions to the shag dictator. We have done the sechs twice this month. Fucking twice. Droid is due next week.

Rie I start on drucks (Clomid) in December too and am also t total. Its killing me fine.

lovesLemonDrizzleCake Sat 03-Nov-12 19:49:36

Just leaving some rasberry cheesecake brownies for the teetotallers. That sounds dreadful. I went on the wagon with the BFP fell off the day after MC, have regained my drinking skills now <proud>

Thinking of you all. Droid due here with Bugsy's. We did the deed plenty, just not when the egg came by, as SB was abroad hmm

ArielThePiraticalMermaid Sat 03-Nov-12 21:13:26

Thank you. It's kind but I'm not really a cake person in the same way I am a wine person <dismal>

Northey Sat 03-Nov-12 21:24:15

I'll eat them for you, aries.

Nice to see you back, bugs. Is the Clomid just next cycle?

MissSlapAndTipple Sat 03-Nov-12 23:26:19

It's late and I'm in bed but I just found a video about ovulation. Looks like I do need these bastard hairs to bloody fucking work or I'm not going to get anywhere. Now fallen to below acceptable levels of doom that I've accepted clomid when it clearly can't work and they've just wasted another 5 or so months of my life. Gutted.

MissSlapAndTipple Sat 03-Nov-12 23:30:39

I don't understand why a Dr would say the hairs aren't that important when clearly they are a key player? Can an egg just float in there by itself? Doesn't look like it. I think I need a damn good cry

Northey Sun 04-Nov-12 06:27:02

Why do you think your hairs don't work, tippler?

MissSlapAndTipple Sun 04-Nov-12 07:44:58

Because I've got kartageners syndrome (worth a google, quite a lot to explain)I know they don't work properly. My lungs and sinuses are buggered as well.

SinkyGoodenplenty Sun 04-Nov-12 08:25:48

Play a part, but not the only thing. Sub fertility maybe, but not infertility. It's rubbish, but try not to despair too much. Are they going to see you at all in the next 5 months while your taking? (I see a lot of cystic fibrosis peeps at work- not the same, but within spitting distance of the ballpark)

Speaking of dispair. All is meh. And working all weekend. Am wearing flight scks because my ankles are so swollen. And, no, I'm not pregnant.

Am reading but too busy (sulking) to post. Shall down my too hot tea now and get back to work.

Cunts. <snigger>

SinkyGoodenplenty Sun 04-Nov-12 08:28:32

Oh, and I blame you hags for making me refer to a rather irritating event at work as "fucking around because everyone but me s a cunt"

It was a weak moment. But probably didn't need saying iin a meeting... blush

Oh dear sinks that's not good. Why the swollen ankles? And who you sulking with?

slaps I did just have a good Google and at casual glance it does appear that its primarily male fertility that is affected by ks, so maybe the clomid will help? Can you give it, say, 3 months and go back and demand something else?

Tried to talk to husband about sechs/baybee sadness last night. He took it badly, very badly. Horrible row. Told me to leave. Didn't really mean it and apologised but feel sick and sad today and don't want to go to work.

MissSlapAndTipple Sun 04-Nov-12 08:40:44

Just had a read of this too *warninggrinnly for the inanely bored (also very complex but quite interesting)

Seems to say sub fertile. Ill be seeing the consultant after three rounds of clomid to review so ill be able to talk to them then. I'm so confused I'm all over the place, this has really upset me and today I shall look like shit because of puffy eyes and shitness.

Love what you said in the meeting sinky. I've been tempted soooo many times. But then I'm not good in meetings anyway, sometimes I want to throw stuff at people! Or head butt them. What do you do for a living sinky?

MissSlapAndTipple Sun 04-Nov-12 08:49:10

X posts winkly, I'm sorry to hear about your row. DH and I had a similar problem going back 18 months or so, he didn't want to do it then when we did he either lost it half way through, couldn't get it up at all or couldn't finish. I made him go to the Drs for thyroid and other tests and they apparently blamed pressure of TTC . I took that as blaming me. We ended up having a very similar sounding row, hit rock bottom and felt like shit but managed to start a fresh after that.

Can you take a day off work? I know it sounds bad but I've called in sick before now when it's all got on top of me, stress of it all is just horrendous.

What about turkey basting? Might that be worth a go? It doesn't solve the lack of secshing but might take pressure off a bit?

Northey Sun 04-Nov-12 08:55:23

winkles how awful! Are you ok? This shit takes such a toll on relationships. LauraP (currently PESH) was actually broken up from her chap when she got diffed (living separately and everything) - it had affected them so badly. I'm sure she won't mind me saying that, as it is all in the BESHly archives.

In other life cuntery news, I have burnt the pie crust for the bastard mango tart I was making for the IL visit for lunch. Waiting for M&S to open so I can grab a ready made one (and pray that the mango mousse filling doesn't then go wrong as well or I will end up serving them MISERY with a teardrop glaze.

Northey Sun 04-Nov-12 08:57:22

Also, why have I been up since 7am, cooking and cleaning, while AMNH is asleep? Why can't I also just not care what state the house is in when they come round? Why?

I really can't call in sick, tempting though a duvet day is - I'm covering the late shift cos they're desperately short and I would screw them over if I didn't go in.

Do people really try the turkey baster trick at home?!

Joining you in the puffy eyed, total shit look today. Crying all night and not sleeping doesn't do my normally stunningly gorgeous hmm looks any favours.

Northey Sun 04-Nov-12 09:02:30

Yup! I did it for a while last year after an operation, wink. It was brilliant and really took the pressure off and it was during that period that I got diffed. In fact my very first BESH post, practically, was championing it.

HavingALittleFaithBaby Sun 04-Nov-12 09:06:05

sinks I get swollen legs when I work long days! Frequently sleep with legs on pillows to get them to come down (an issue prior to getting diffed FYI!).

wink how awful! sad something's not right and he knows it, hence his extreme reaction. Does he genuinely want a baybee? a conversation I had with MSB a lot Is he holding back because he's not sure about baybees? Or (like MSB) or do you think there's something underlying going on?

HavingALittleFaithBaby Sun 04-Nov-12 09:07:16

Yes we tried the turkey baster on more than one occasion! You need to mix the swimmers with lube to give them enough substance to head up where they need to be! smile

The things you learn!

I don't know if he would be up for that. I strongly suspect he would think I was challenging his 'manliness'. Part of his problem yesterday was feeling 'unsupported' by me, which frankly boiled down to him taking my specific issues (no sex, no baby) as me saying 'you're a shit husband' so he dealt with it by acting like a shitty husband so I think he would interpret 'plz jizz in a cup ta' as 'I have no.further use for you just your sperm ta'.

HavingALittleFaithBaby Sun 04-Nov-12 09:12:47

I read about it on here, laughed about it, told MSB about it and he actually surprised me by saying he liked the idea because it took the pressure off. Maybe not today, but it might be worth discussing in a would you find this easier?

faith he maintains he does want a baybee

I don't think I own a turkey baster <ponders sexual trip to lakeland>

MissSlapAndTipple Sun 04-Nov-12 09:15:09

Can't you dress it up as 'i know how much pressure we are both feeling, how about a break where we do this just to get my fertile times, then when you fancy a fun frolick we can without any pressure of finishing or if anything goes wrong during it doesn't matter'. Male ego is a very delicate thing though so I can imagine how turkey basting might be interpreted.

EuroShagmore Sun 04-Nov-12 09:15:12

Morning BESH. It sounds like a few of us are having a pretty hard time at the moment.

I'm doing ok, although need to be getting on with the sechsing.

I went to a spa with my best mate on Friday night, and then spent yesterday shooting and watching fireworks. I love fireworks night - it's better than Xmas. However I came home to find a letter from HMRC (never good). Saying I owe them £1700! It was £3k last year. I just don't understand it. I'm on PAYE with no other source of income bar a few quid a year from my savings account. How can the PAYE be so far out? Grrrr. It's particularly lovely of them to send the demand for payment in the run up to Xmas, just at they did last year. That's half a round of IVF. Cunts.

shock at hmrc! You need to get onto payroll asap and find out what's gone so badly wrong. Which spa was it? I love a spa day. I could do with one now.

The only plus side is that its pissing down with rain here and that generally means an easier day at work.

Dunno slaps. Maybe. I wonder if it might be better just to give up on the whole thing. Live happily ever after without all the strain of trying for sex and trying for a child. Or just crawl under a rock somewhere and not come out again.

Northey Sun 04-Nov-12 09:23:50

Did you hop up a pay level or anything during the year, euro? Not that that excuses it - it's payroll's job to get this stuff right, FFS.

MissSlapAndTipple Sun 04-Nov-12 09:28:04

Don't say that Winkly! It's so difficult to know what to suggest because everyone is so different but you know you both want a baby and you love each other. Judgement and rational thinking seems to get massively clouded with this whole TTC tripe (Hence my bawling myself to sleep last night). I wish when we were born we came out with a sign saying:
'you will get pregnant when you are 18'
'you will get pregnant at 35 on 2nd round of IVF/ICSI'
'You will not have a baby' etc etc
At least then we would know. That's the most frustrating thing, not knowing.

Yeah I agree.

Norf I hope you manage to fix your dessert.

I am going to have a cup of tea and try to make myself look presentable for work, good luck me.

ArielThePiraticalMermaid Sun 04-Nov-12 10:25:17

Morning luffly hags. So sorry what we're all going through at the moment. I don't know what MrA would make of a turkey baster tbh, but maybe if it's made into a bit of a giggle it would lighten things a bit? <out of depth but very sympathetic>

Euro what utter cunts angry. This is my advice as a self employed person, and I've just given the same to my mum, as she has had a similar demand, albeit on a much smaller scale. Phone them up - talk through all the correspondence, explain that it is THEIR error, and that if you do end up owing the money and have to pay it, you will do so, but in instalments that you can afford rather than in a chunk. The people on the end of the phone are generally quite helpful and just doing their job.

SinkyGoodenplenty Sun 04-Nov-12 10:30:43

Im back cunts hags.

winkly swollen ankles, as faife guessed is just due to long weekend shifts with lots of standing.

I love the idea of a sexual trip to lakeland. Or rather, am slightly agast and horrified in a middle aged, middle class manner.

Euro that's utter crap. This happened to me (only once though). I started demanding to pay it back '"within my means" - meaning about £1 a month. But realised that was slightly cutting my nose to spite my face etc. is your tax code totally wrong?

As for my meh. It much like winkly's last post. Live happily ever after without all the strain of trying for sex and trying for a child. It's so hard carrying on with this. It wrecks our marriages/relationships. It makes me crazy. It makes me intolerant of others. It just seems to be making me a worse person.

I went for a job interview this week. It would mean moving 200 mile away, leaving GHJ here. But it would be an amazing opportunity and for 2 yrs work would set me up for the rest of my career (I think). I agonised. My clinic appointment is in dec. I would move in feb. I decided that I couldn't put my life off. I would go for this amazing job and babies, well, what happens happens. (I was worried this would be the moment for and ironic mirical dif).

But I didnt get the job. Got to last 2. Close. But no cigar. And now I'm trying to get my head round the job fuck up, and recommending project baby. Meh.

And I met my mental friend and 10 week baby after the interview. Geeze. Other peoples babies can really be dull.

And this is on my phone, so apologies for the typing.

evilgiraffe Sun 04-Nov-12 10:30:59

Lots of woe last night/this morning! As usual I have nothing helpful to add, but hugs all round.

I have a turkey baster, but it's never really worked properly. I don't think the bulb makes a tight enough seal. Not that I've tested it in lieu of sechs, but it's not much truck for turkey basting.

Sechsing has been off the cards for the last week or so, both of us have been struck down with intermittent tummy trouble, so occasionally feel fine, but not both of us at once. Of course, it would be the same month that I actually have EWCM for once in my life, and we missed it <glum>

On a cheerful note, we went to see Skyfall last night. I am so in love with Bond in general and Daniel Craig and Judi Dench in particular it's a little embarrassing. <starry eyed>

EuroShagmore Sun 04-Nov-12 10:33:47

They really are utter wonkers (I love this word - it is used by the Eastern European wife of a friend and it amuses me). I thought last year's was a one off as they asked me to do a tax return for the first time in years and they they have adjusted my tax code about 3 times this year. We outsource our payroll stuff (small UK office of a US firm, so we are not big enough to have a payroll dept here) so there is not really anyone to talk to. I am thinking it is HMRC's revenge for attempting to breed with a tax lawyer. When I got last year's bill, I instructed KFZK to fuck them over extra hard.

Slap that would be brilliant. It is the not knowing that is so hard.

Rie I was miserable off the booze too. I didn't find it as hard as I expected, but it was just shit.

HavingALittleFaithBaby Sun 04-Nov-12 10:36:52

On a practical note, we used a syringe rather than an actual for too large for the job! turkey baster! If you buy pre-seed it comes with applicators that are fit for purpose.

Sympathies for the swollen legs and lack of other job. Would be tricky to do the sechsing but I know what you mean about going for these jobs. I did (albeit local) and I'm glad I did because it was great experience.

Hope work remains soggy and not too busy wink.

Alwyn are you still lurking? How has the first half term been?

EuroShagmore Sun 04-Nov-12 10:41:44

X-posts. Sorry to hear about the job Sinky. I've been headhunted for something and I'm letting it play out. I've turned down a number of potential opportunities in the last couple of years but like you I think I just need to get on with living my life. I'm not motivated to try that hard for it, but if it happens, it would be good.

Draf we are contemplating Bond later.

HavingALittleFaithBaby Sun 04-Nov-12 11:00:06

Ooh so are we euro but I suspect MSB will remain too hungover to feel motivated to go!

lovesLemonDrizzleCake Sun 04-Nov-12 11:02:18

Morning cunts hags!

Sorry for all the shittyness and the crying nights. Me and SB ended up in a political discussion, which bordered on a row. We have different views and he was spouting nonsense which is close to my area of expertise, so I explained not quite as patiently as I should have. So then I left him to stew and went shopping, which was a genius idea, as I came home with two dresses which he loves. And are handy for work, I lost a bit of weight during diffedness and have been running twice a week since, so I needed new smart clothes.

I want BOND. But we have social stuff loads at the moment. Tonight it is friends with a baby. Yesterday it was stewy SB (to be fair he has wisdom teeth trouble and was awake half the night). Tomorrow it's his gran - again, Tuesday it is running, Wed it is social work stuff and Thurs is the night before our hols.

Okay enough self-absorbedness. Sorry the brownies weren't your cup of tea, aries. What would you like? I wish I could do something to lessen the load...

So sorry about the sechsfails and arguments, winkly. As to turkey basters and men. I would not get SB to jizz in a cup, if there is no medical professional intervening and recommending. We found IUI initially quite good because it took the pressure of sechsing. But I am loving the treatment free months we're having now. It helps that I don't expect to win a baybee.

I very much agree with getting on with life and taking opportunities sinky and shaggy. It is crap when it does not work out though. Sorry! I had to change jobs (contract finished and no more money) this summer. We continued treatment despite, which included a rather fraught IUI the day before my first day in the new job, as it was nearly the first day... Of course, that was the one that got me diffed and I worried a little about that, but ultimately decided it would be fine. I wish it had been...

lovesLemonDrizzleCake Sun 04-Nov-12 11:03:55

Oh, and that is rubbish about the wopper from HMRC euro, can KFZK not beat them into submission again? I would be decidedly unimpressed to hand over half an IVF round.

ArielThePiraticalMermaid Sun 04-Nov-12 11:13:01

Lemony, you lovely thing. I didn't mean brownies aren't my cup of tea - that sounded really ungrateful. Sorry! I love most food, but I love wine more <explains>

However, since last Tuesday, I have drunk just two glasses. Which is good.

lovesLemonDrizzleCake Sun 04-Nov-12 11:19:02

Duh, everyone loves wine more. It is easy enough but not very easy, when it is still a secret to give up when diffed. It is just SHITE to have to give up in the run up for treatment. It would be so much easier if they could guarantee the treatment would work... No need to be sorry, arie, I just felt like your load with treatment and father is a bit much at the mo. And all I can do is offer virtual treats, but virtual wine won't harm wink nor will a few glasses now and again.

I'd love the sign at birth as well that tells you how and when you'd win a baybee. Then you could just drink as a fish and enjoy your life until then, it is the uncertainty that is the bugger.

Right, time for brunch with a bunch of adorable nephews for me and SB. I am wearing one of my smart new dresses (and look way hotter than my hot, but uberfertile sister).

ArielThePiraticalMermaid Sun 04-Nov-12 11:32:44

Yes, it is all a bit much. Sometimes I can feel myself on the verge of drowning in it all. MrA is being great.

FrankelDeBeauvoir Sun 04-Nov-12 11:42:29

Chatty bunch this morning aren't we grin

HWHNN and I have just finished a decadent brunch - Danish pastries, scrambled egg and bacon <yum>. I've was a proper cow yesterday, I kept snapping at HWHNN and couldnt seem to stop myself. I've apologised and explained I'm feeling on a bit or a roller coaster at the moment and he's been luffly about it. It's too early for PMT (8 dpo) so I'm putting it down to the cold and rain.

Sorry for all the job/tax/family worries. What we need is a trip to Monaco on a huuuge fuck-off yacht, like the Bond Girls we really are grin

<reclines on pile of cushions and sips on a Vodka Martini>

EuroShagmore Sun 04-Nov-12 11:51:13

Unfortunately KFZK doesn't deal with income tax. So he is of no practical use at all.

Northey Sun 04-Nov-12 11:51:29

Wine and food for everyone. And a mega box of colouring pencils so we can all do lemons drawing therapy, in a sardonic but necessary way.

I have made a new pudding, but am exhausted. It was a really stupid idea inviting them this weekend, I must say.

Northey Sun 04-Nov-12 11:52:28

God, a BESH Bond yacht would be lovely right now.

ArielThePiraticalMermaid Sun 04-Nov-12 11:55:29

You mean a motor yacht <sniffs disapprovingly>. One which we all lay about on drinking champagne cocktails in bikinis (with miraculous bikini bodies obv)

Actually why am I sniffing disapprovingly.

We could call it the Barren Boat. Because we're all in the same boat.

evilgiraffe Sun 04-Nov-12 11:58:25

Ooo, Monaco would be nice... It is hammering down here today, proper real rain rather than drizzly crap. It's quite nice and rather gloomy all at once.

I wish 8DPO was too early for PMT. I rarely seem to have a luteal phase longer than 10-11 days. Moot point this time anyway, though, what with the poor timing of sechs and all.

evilgiraffe Sun 04-Nov-12 12:01:11

All in the same boat! Haha! That is brilliant grin

I'm up for a yacht that has sails as well as an engine, though. They just look a bit more classy. The big question is, what is the name of our boat?

ArielThePiraticalMermaid Sun 04-Nov-12 12:04:01

I can sail. Oh yes, sails are far classier.

Let's call it "Bunch o' cunts" <nautical>

evilgiraffe Sun 04-Nov-12 12:24:06

Of course, sails also require a bigger crew. We could advertise for Roger the Cabin Boy?

Hurrah for Bunch o' Cunts and all who sail in her!

ArielThePiraticalMermaid Sun 04-Nov-12 12:29:30

Oh that has made me larf for the first time in days! Thank you draffers.

evilgiraffe Sun 04-Nov-12 12:41:33

You're welcome! <takes a bow> grin

ArielThePiraticalMermaid Sun 04-Nov-12 13:00:19

No one else seems to be finding this as funny as I am

FrankelDeBeauvoir Sun 04-Nov-12 13:11:24

Ah, a classic "first world problem" thread grin

ArielThePiraticalMermaid Sun 04-Nov-12 13:15:13

I honestly thought it was a joke at first.

Have you ever strayed into Good Housekeeping? grin

FrankelDeBeauvoir Sun 04-Nov-12 13:20:40

Not sure I'm brave enough <slattern>

MissSlapAndTipple Sun 04-Nov-12 13:25:13

ohhhh I love a good first world problem. Speaking of which- I own this dress but in cream.

I am going to wear it for my big 3.0. birthday meal in 5 weeks but I want some new shoes and a new bag. What colour shall I go for? (I'm genuinely that crap with clothes). Please feel free to post linkies!

I have this morning taken the decision to throw myself into my birthday and christmas preparations like a crazy thing. I'm currently choosing a christmas theme for my HOUSE. yes, not just the living room. I'm going to do the house. I have decided to get the parents together on New Year's eve for a party so I have lots of planning to do for that and shall start stock piling food straight away. I am also going to be making a pudding for Christmas day and my mum is throwing me a family birthday party so I have to choose a christmas theme for my parents house to. This is all very complicated. I'm such a spoilt brat smile mums taking me to the Christmas market in Birmingham at the end of the month. MATV is being a grumpy git and is refusing to participate. I DON'T care.

MissSlapAndTipple Sun 04-Nov-12 13:26:42

ah, I found it in cream. It is beautiful

and I bought it for less than the sale price cos someone got lipstick on it so I got another 15% off and the lipstick came straight off when I wiped it smile

ArielThePiraticalMermaid Sun 04-Nov-12 13:29:11

Are you....<narrows eyes suspiciously>..... under thirty, slapandtickle?

FrankelDeBeauvoir Sun 04-Nov-12 13:34:08

Ooo, that's purdy grin

As it's nice and neutral you could go any direction you want with shoes, accessories, etc. personally I'm a fan of killer heels (and it would fit with the Bond Girl styling) so would probably choose something like this or a slightly different version (and cheaper) here I do like purple stuff!

MissSlapAndTipple Sun 04-Nov-12 13:41:03

I am officially 29 in the world of age but have been barren for such a long time I feel about 50 :/ Dont call the bouncers - I will be legal in 47 days sad

Frankel I LOVE those shoes. I have some red shoes that are a little too brash but I love them for a good night out but those are classy and colourful. I am also eyeing up these as they have some sparkle

ArielThePiraticalMermaid Sun 04-Nov-12 13:42:12

<comes round at plea>

MissSlapAndTipple Sun 04-Nov-12 13:43:48

if I go nude these are better:

MissSlapAndTipple Sun 04-Nov-12 13:44:22

yayee ree.....look at the pretty shoes too!!!!! bouncers cant kick out people who love pretty shoes......

ArielThePiraticalMermaid Sun 04-Nov-12 13:47:15

Very Middleton! grin

These are my current shoes of choice.

MissSlapAndTipple Sun 04-Nov-12 13:48:48

They would look A.MAZ.ING with my dress.

MissSlapAndTipple Sun 04-Nov-12 13:50:06

hey and I have the brunette middleton look friend said I look like her. MATV snorted a laugh into his wine when she said that. She was drunk and has bad eyesight though. I'm MUCH more gorgeous and more curvy lol

evilgiraffe Sun 04-Nov-12 14:10:50

I can't be arsed to add 47 days to today. When's your birthday, rasp? I'm thirty on 5th December, we have nothing planned, but with any luck HOTB will do the usual thing and cook me steak and chips grin

Sadly, HOTB's 30th is a couple of weeks before mine, and I need to crack on with present-buying...

evilgiraffe Sun 04-Nov-12 14:11:47

Oh, and I'd make suggestions, but I have not a fashionable bone in my body, I'm afraid.

ArielThePiraticalMermaid Sun 04-Nov-12 14:12:27

God, you as well draf? <glum>

Is there anyone left here who is as old or older than I am?

Am 31. Don't know how these 20-somethings slipped under the radar hmm

I have had a good lunch and a milkshake and its still raining so I feel a bit better.

evilgiraffe Sun 04-Nov-12 14:20:39

I did confess my age in the last thread! <hands round reading glasses> wink

(please don't hate me, I'm only kidding)

lovesLemonDrizzleCake Sun 04-Nov-12 14:49:44

Sailing the Bunch o'Cunts over the seven seas with a (few) cabin boy(s) for each of the BESHes. Oh no, that was the Pirate Fred. Roughly when I joined - which reminds, I am legal Rie, 33 but not quite as ancient.

I vouch for draff's age admittance. But considering her BESHtionaire we let her slip thru. However, for winkly I was unaware hmm but then I failed to catch up properly a lot recently.

ArielThePiraticalMermaid Sun 04-Nov-12 14:50:50

That's my excuse too.

MissSlapAndTipple Sun 04-Nov-12 14:52:16

3.0. Day is 21st December. I'm looking forward to celebrations, not to turning 30 though. I kind of feel it means I will have to act grown up? I dunno. Do I have to grow up?

lovesLemonDrizzleCake Sun 04-Nov-12 14:52:54

Yay for Arie's sensible footwear. Just got drenched on our way home from brunch and my nice boots are drying by the radiator.

Btw Christmas theme for the house shock. Our theme will be the same as last year - get out of reach of the in-laws, preferably abroad, otherwise the lakes or something. In a cottage with a log fire.

ArielThePiraticalMermaid Sun 04-Nov-12 14:54:03

I was going to hide in a cottage. Can't now sad

lovesLemonDrizzleCake Sun 04-Nov-12 15:01:38

sad sorry about that. Any chance you and MrA can get away and have some relaxing fun together before then?

MissSlapAndTipple Sun 04-Nov-12 15:02:50

Aim big Drizz! House is definately the way to go although the reality is I will probably have lost enthusiasm by tomorrow so will end up with a twig by the TV and some tinsel over the mirror smile

That's shit for you Rie. How is your dad?

evilgiraffe Sun 04-Nov-12 15:04:17

Fuck growing up. I have no intention of being sensible, ever. You share your birthday with my mum and MIL, rasp! It's clearly a popular day smile

I have no idea what we're doing for Christmas. I suspect we're going to end up at the ILs, and maybe my parents up to New Year. The aforementioned birthday clash can make things awkward too...

SinkyGoodenplenty Sun 04-Nov-12 15:10:28

Is that Seaman Staines I see?

SinkyGoodenplenty Sun 04-Nov-12 15:12:21

Oh bloody hell shit Internet connection and posting off mobile have left me totally out of date.

Ignore ignore.

SinkyGoodenplenty Sun 04-Nov-12 15:27:04

Ok. Am up to date. Did enjoy the Bunch o'cunts (or whatever) and Pie wanker (bit like Bus Wanker)

As to Xmas feeme. I may. And I say may splash out on a tree this year. Maybe.

lovesLemonDrizzleCake Sun 04-Nov-12 15:42:57

<proud emoticon>
Have actually started my assignment, 158 words down, only 3800 to go wink and we got an extension, which will fall squarely into my hollibobs, so I need to get it handed in this week...

Driz was your hmm meant for 20-something slaps rather than 30-something me? <too delicate to be told off>

Well done on starting the assignment btw

lovesLemonDrizzleCake Sun 04-Nov-12 15:56:48

hmm one should get used to my overactive eyebrows winkly as I did them for you, thinking that 31, clearly is Very Young (and maybe, just maybe reading it as not being 30 yet, I know, I know).

431 words. No references going is yet. They are upstairs. I am not. Clearly being here (in the centrally heated living room) trumps going to the attic and doing this properly.

lovesLemonDrizzleCake Sun 04-Nov-12 15:57:49

PS What I have gathered from your job, you are clear NOT particularly delibate, winkly. Or am I confusing peeps again. Sorry, it must be my age...
<ancient smiley>

lovesLemonDrizzleCake Sun 04-Nov-12 15:58:17

delibate is delicate. I cannot write. Oh well, at least word tells me when I write words that don't exist.

I am emotionally delicate today after the hideous row last night. However yes professionally I am very robust, except in the face of my huge workfile and messy desk.

lovesLemonDrizzleCake Sun 04-Nov-12 16:19:02

Oh, in that case: sorry! But any eyebrow I raise should pale into insignificance compared to awful rowing with other halfs. I distinctly remember at uni, in small group work, one of our lectures demanding I should keep my eyebrows in check, but honestly, I can't, in RL that is, here I can be good

505 words. Another 20 minutes work to do now!

BugsyGalore Sun 04-Nov-12 17:15:09

I am making Paul Hollywoods 8 plaited loaf <proud>

EuroShagmore Sun 04-Nov-12 18:18:24

Gosh, you have all been chatty today!

I love the sound of the yacht. And particularly Roger the Cabin Boy. Who would of course be terribly virile and impregnate us all.

Slap I adore that dress. Nude shoes would look great, but if you fancy a contrast, I would probably opt for purple shoes and purple wrap or something like that. Or emerald green? I had an emerald green clutch with my cream silk wedding dress and I think they looked fab together. That would work best if you have dark hair though. If you are fair, I would stay, stick to nude.

Rie I'm 36. (<whispers> 37 in January). Not everyone here is of the spring chicken variety!

Drizz I recently got told off by a partner at my place who thinks wrongly that he is the boss of me for raising my eyebrow when he was talking. I had no idea. I cant control my left eyebrow. One of my school friends used to say the time to run was when it started nudging my hairline. I used to have quite a fiery temper back in the day...

ArielThePiraticalMermaid Sun 04-Nov-12 18:20:01

For three short and glorious months Euro we'll be the same age.

HavingALittleFaithBaby Sun 04-Nov-12 18:28:53

If you fancy purple shoes try these for size. I have them, I luff them. In fact one of my friends said after the fire Now I need to know, did the purple shoes survive? Not only are they fun and a bit unusual but they are actually comfy on your feet and not too expensive. Sure you'd find a naice bag to go with them!

I wish I could raise one eyebrow but sadly, along with tongue rolling, this is a skill I shall never possess! hmm

FrankelDeBeauvoir Sun 04-Nov-12 18:42:14

Nice looking loaf Bugsy wink


Northey Sun 04-Nov-12 18:44:48

<slinks sultrily aboard the Bunch o' Cunts in a bikini and a pair of purple heels>

I am 34 and a half, so very legal indeed.

ArielThePiraticalMermaid Sun 04-Nov-12 19:07:51

Don't think I have my Bond name. Am fresh out of ideas though. Very open to suggestions.

Northey Sun 04-Nov-12 19:15:24


Home from work, feeling much more positive after a rainy day let me get my casefile in order. Glass of champagne in hand and we Will Have A Nice Evening (brooking no argument, like others on another fred!)

ArielThePiraticalMermaid Sun 04-Nov-12 20:45:31

I tried that Fred. Still didn't diffed.

ArielThePiraticalMermaid Sun 04-Nov-12 20:46:09

Glad you're feeling better.

SinkyGoodenplenty Sun 04-Nov-12 20:52:21

I've not tried that fred. Maybe that's my problem.

15min to go at work. Thankfully. And GHJ has a cheeky takeaway ready for me at home. And alcohol. Am v jealous that winkly has got there before me.

The flight socks have worked wonders. You'll all be delighted to hear.

Rierie you sound all sad sad There has been too little fish slapping lately, have a kindly tuna steak spank to the buttocks.

sinks am glad the flight socks worked. I did have a short day today, very easy day for everyone cos of the rain and I was owed a lot of favours and a lot of hours from this week so got to slip away a tiny bit early. Hooray.

Northey Sun 04-Nov-12 21:02:55

No acknowledgment of my lovely name change suggestion? Ungrateful wretch.

ArielThePiraticalMermaid Sun 04-Nov-12 21:06:37

God, sorry Norf. I am shit. Thank you x

ArielThePiraticalMermaid Sun 04-Nov-12 21:18:56

Anyone else watching Three Men and a Baby? sad

No. Harry Potter. Not a baybee in sight. Happy days.

HavingALittleFaithBaby Sun 04-Nov-12 21:21:27

That's what we were watching when we decided to try to win a baybee! confused Christmas Eve 2009.

HavingALittleFaithBaby Sun 04-Nov-12 21:21:47

Oh and Downton here.

ArielThePiraticalMermaid Sun 04-Nov-12 21:24:04

It's too late for me to start with Downtown. I missed the first two series.

Just half sicked up my dinner - one of my friends has uploaded her baby scan video to YouTube and posted the link to Facebook for us all to "admire" her 'honeymoon baybee's first movie shoot'

God my friends are sickening

Northey Sun 04-Nov-12 21:37:24

God, I nearly sucked up mine just reading about it.

Northey Sun 04-Nov-12 21:37:39

Sicked up.

Soz norf

HavingALittleFaithBaby Sun 04-Nov-12 21:38:45

My friend posted a picture of her PFB doing his 'poo face' yesterday confused Please don't let me be like that!

ArielThePiraticalMermaid Sun 04-Nov-12 21:39:20


Faif it might happen! Friend who posted the "babies make like worth living for" status was One Of Us not so long ago....

Delete who Rierie ? Pfb-poo or foetus-film?

Northey Sun 04-Nov-12 21:45:07

PFB poo face? Dear God what is the matter with people?

HavingALittleFaithBaby Sun 04-Nov-12 21:45:29

Yeah, right! Once an ESH, always an ESH! smile I was a little hmm last night being at a party last night, explaining about how long it has taken to win our baybee only to have someone say she came off the pill to try for a baybee and never even had a droid. Bully for her! Fortunately another friend there took some time to win her PFB and we rallied together smile

FrankelDeBeauvoir Sun 04-Nov-12 21:45:41

I'm watching the documentary about the Red Bull space jump bloke - Felix Bumgaur or summat. Am paying attention, honest grin

I second the deletion, delete them all!

ArielThePiraticalMermaid Sun 04-Nov-12 21:45:52

Everyone who posses you off. Here. Starting with the foetal film star.

ArielThePiraticalMermaid Sun 04-Nov-12 21:46:53

Dunno where that random Here came from.

FrankelDeBeauvoir Sun 04-Nov-12 21:49:49

I thought you were advocating the ability to block other MNers Rie grin

HavingALittleFaithBaby Sun 04-Nov-12 21:50:45

If I deleted everyone who 'possed' me off I'd have no friends! I might hide her PFB posts for a while. It's just too much!

Can't bloody hide people using the android Facebook app and seems like far too much faff to get the laptop out. Not when poor old Harry is battling for the fate of the wizarding world.

ArielThePiraticalMermaid Sun 04-Nov-12 21:57:42

Isn't "posses off" something everyone says?

FriendofDorothy Sun 04-Nov-12 22:09:29

I worry that I could easily turn in to a baby-bore. I need to be reminded of the fact that it is a shitty thing to be. Please point out my failings to me if I end up posting up pictures of my baby's first turd or something equally vile.

HavingALittleFaithBaby Sun 04-Nov-12 22:13:26

My colleague out a photo of his child's first poo in a potty! hmm I hid him. Tmi. Five children between him and his wife too. Not exactly PFB!

So far you're alright dor, I still read your posts on t'other place!

FriendofDorothy Sun 04-Nov-12 22:17:13

Faith I am relying on you to tell me when I overstep the mark.

It's tricky because I want to be happy about what is going on without being a smug annoying bitch. It's a tricky tightrope to walk.

HavingALittleFaithBaby Sun 04-Nov-12 22:18:46

We'll watch each others backs then dor! I am not mentioning being diffed much at all really. Think it's easier that way!

Northey Sun 04-Nov-12 22:22:35

I only have about 3 friends anyway, as I am so bitter and horrid. I can't afford to unfriend any. But I would live with 2, if one of the three started being so dreadful.

Ok. Here are some hints:
Baby in a skeleton costume - cute. Baby shitting - grim. Baby scan pic - fine. Baby scan video uploaded to YouTube - do fuck off. The occasional anecdote - fine, but we don't care that your baby doesn't realise the clocks have changed and your newborn does NOT have an opinion on this years X Factor lineup.


FriendofDorothy Sun 04-Nov-12 22:27:00

Perfect. Thanks. ;)

Norf! I utterly REFUSE to believe you are bitter friendless or horrid. Someday I will meet you for glamorous Bondesque martinis and discover that you are fabulous.

ArielThePiraticalMermaid Sun 04-Nov-12 22:45:36

She is gert lush.

HavingALittleFaithBaby Sun 04-Nov-12 22:49:12

By my calculations you've got at least 4 ESH as friends norf. You are lush too!

ArielThePiraticalMermaid Sun 04-Nov-12 22:50:38

AND she loves cats.

SinkyGoodenplenty Sun 04-Nov-12 23:29:41

Wait one minute... You're all friends on facebook?

<hides in bond girl secret lair>

Northey Mon 05-Nov-12 06:02:26

Some of us are, in a fairly haphazard way, sink. Are you interested in joining this elite, inner, BESH-extra world? (it's not really a world. Or elite. Or BESHly.)

Excellent list, winkly. I would also propose a cap on the percentage of updates which relate to your baby rather than you. And a ban on using a photo of your baby instead of a photo of yourself.

Northey Mon 05-Nov-12 06:05:13

And thank you for nice words, rierie and faif.

FrankelDeBeauvoir Mon 05-Nov-12 07:20:04

Morning BESHly Bond Girls <puts thick wooly jumper on over bikini>. Bit chilly this morning!

I'm on a course all week, though thankfully it is in my home town. Not a good week to be off caffeine though as its all about tax, employment law, accounting, etc <yawns>

I is friends on the Book of Face with Bugsy and Rie but am happy to friend stalk the rest of ya if y'like grin <needy>

I luffs being on a course. So relaxing. Proper lunch breaks, always finishing on time, and with the better ones I come back to work brimming with enthusiasm. Tax and employment law sounds a bit dull though.

HavingALittleFaithBaby Mon 05-Nov-12 08:53:42

I iz friends with a few - started with bugs because we planned to go Steps together (never happened due to stupid dates), then norf, dor, queenie, blonder and vairy recently lp! I did say to MSB yesterday I know someone who is going to be on tv and he asked if I really knew them or 'knew them' through MN! shock (Tis someone from school).

HavingALittleFaithBaby Mon 05-Nov-12 08:54:16

Oh hope the course goes ok frankers.

I'm not fb friends with anyone here just wankers apparently

Do I Shred or go for a run before work today, that's the question.

HavingALittleFaithBaby Mon 05-Nov-12 09:14:52

How cold/wet is it wink? If I could run, I'd wrap up and go this morning. Tis cold but sunny here.

7 degrees and dry. So a bit cold. I don't mind being cold, but I'm asthmatic and my lungs aren't hugely fond of cold weather.

ArielThePiraticalMermaid Mon 05-Nov-12 12:01:50

I'm going to That London today. On the train.

EuroShagmore Mon 05-Nov-12 12:30:28

Rie I shall notify the relevant parties to lay out the red carpet.

I generally have a rule that I won't friend anyone on facebook who I don't know IRL. But I would make an exception for the BESH. I've met LP anyway.

I had acu this morning. I love needles lady. It's such a relaxing start to the week.

Northey Mon 05-Nov-12 12:31:01

Are you?? To where? Why? When?

<stakes out Paddington>

Am in London too. It's miserable in this part, hope you're not here rie. You still in London norf? Could ply you with booze sometime grin

Northey Mon 05-Nov-12 15:48:33

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

I used to work round there norf - it's like a different planet to where I am now. Such a nice part of the world.

FrankelDeBeauvoir Mon 05-Nov-12 18:01:43

Am back from day 1 of my course! Not too bad acksherly - tea/coffee and (most important) giant squidgy cookies on tap grin

HWHNN works in Embankment. Have you there London-types been to Gordon's bar near there? I luffs it.

Northey Mon 05-Nov-12 18:09:18

Ooh does he? Yes, I used to go to Gordon's loads. Not for ages though.

FrankelDeBeauvoir Mon 05-Nov-12 18:20:15

We really need a BESH/PESH meet-up don't we!

Northey Mon 05-Nov-12 18:29:20

Let me know when you are next near Embankment!

I love Gordons - my first date with Husband was there. Awww romance.

I would be up for an ESH meetup sometime.

SinkyGoodenplenty Mon 05-Nov-12 21:16:04

How is all? Just been to an incredible firework display effort. My toes are icicles now though.

I know me and faife make up a northern contingent of the BESH. Sadly London village is a bit far for me for a cheeky gin. <lounges sadly in spangly bikini while sadly sipping mojito>

EuroShagmore Mon 05-Nov-12 21:16:59

I know Gordons too! The trains to my parents' place go from Charing X so I used to be in that area regularly.

FrankelDeBeauvoir Mon 05-Nov-12 21:27:44

The offer of an ESHly Christmas in a well-stocked with booze cottage in deepest darkest Norfolk still stands.

This looks pretty suitable wink

BugsyGalore Mon 05-Nov-12 21:32:17

I'm starting to feel veh left out re the fb thing. I want to be friends with rIe lp and queen

JethroTull Mon 05-Nov-12 21:38:13

I have met Rie in RL <twirls>. She is lurvley. We drank some wine.

Can't start stabbing this month as egg collection & transfer would fall just before Christmas & they don't do it. Have to wait until next cycle or even January. Meh.

FrankelDeBeauvoir Mon 05-Nov-12 21:40:34

Aw that's bollocks Jethro angry

<soothing gin>

MissSlapAndTipple Mon 05-Nov-12 21:57:10

I just looked up when I joined this place of madness and at some of the old threads I was on. So much has changed, so many people have been and gone. Now I feel sad. I'm having a sad day. Can someone throw a kipper my way? Or maybe even a full on whack with a salmon?

FrankelDeBeauvoir Mon 05-Nov-12 21:58:56

<dumps barrel of prawns over Slaps head>


evilgiraffe Mon 05-Nov-12 22:09:59

<waves a turbot in rasp's direction>

Fingers crossed next cycle falls conveniently for egg collection, Jeth.

I went for a scan today - astonishingly despite an appt at 5pm, they called me in FIFTEEN MINUTES EARLY shock Anyway, it seems that I do once again have a cyst on my left ovary, which may or may not be responsible for the extra-long droids. I'll probably get called in for a rescan in six weeks or so.

Still, that's the last of my weekday commitments for a while (barring tea with friends) so I'm planning on going to spend next week with my parents, which will be nice smile

Oh, and fireworks tonight were epically brilliant, hurrah! And apparently some village in Kent always has a good Guy - it seems this year it's an effigy of Lance Armstrong wearing a Jim'll Fix It medal grin

MissSlapAndTipple Mon 05-Nov-12 22:22:06

I'm not sure my request was a good idea. Bond will not want to secsh me now I smell super fishy probably wouldn't anyway no matter how sparkly my bikini. I wonder if fish slime could makes you super fertile? I might start that as a rumour and see what happens.

Northey Tue 06-Nov-12 05:46:47

Arsebiscuits, jeff. How crap sad There's always bloody something, isn't there?

<festoons rasper with a necklace of shrimp>

EuroShagmore Tue 06-Nov-12 10:13:56

Jeff that's bloody annoying. I missed the trigger shot on my first Letrozole cycle last Xmas because the clinic wasn't open to scan me at the right time. But on the plus side, that might mean that we end up as IVF buddies. I'm having my consulation with Create in December with a view to starting after Xmas.

Slap maybe it's a good thing that the population has changed in here. I think most people who have moved on have done so because they have become PESH. <is unusually optimistic>

Draf annoying about cyst, good about free time!

Bugsy I can't make you friends with any of them, but I can offer you me. PM me with your name if you want to hook up on FB.

'lo hags

Oh Jeff that is super shit and am sorry.
draf tis good they might be able to fix youth droid

<munches on delicious arsebiscuits>

Had some sechs last night smile but no jizz sad and Husband won't JIAP. Meanie.

Am on bus on way to trial weeping profusely (in my heart) about my workload and fucking awful management

Oh and if anyone wants to be my fb friend pm. I won't be offended if you don't well not much anyway

FrankelDeBeauvoir Tue 06-Nov-12 11:54:30

Checking in during Coffee Break. Just had my progesterone results back - 79 which is a definite thumbs up for ov. Nurse said it was hard to tell if I laid 2 eggs but she'd expect to see a result over 150 if I had.

I am willing to be a Facebook shlag if anyone wants. Apparently I am very hard to find (super security settings) but I am friends with Bugs, Rie and Norf so can be traced that way .

Northey Tue 06-Nov-12 12:29:47

So far, all my new BESH friends are depressingly slender and beautiful. I've had to have a chocolate rice cake for comfort.

EuroShagmore Tue 06-Nov-12 12:39:18

Yay to new BESH friends (and chocolate cake).

FriendofDorothy Tue 06-Nov-12 12:41:43

I would like more FB friend too please... I am friends with bugs and faith I think.

Haha norf needs her eyes looking at if she's talking about me!

Pm me frank and dor, am a fb whore smile

FrankelDeBeauvoir Tue 06-Nov-12 13:46:03

Can't PM at the mo as I'm on my phone, but will do tonight.

FrankelDeBeauvoir Tue 06-Nov-12 13:46:44

BTW Norf, you is bootiful <lech>

EuroShagmore Tue 06-Nov-12 13:59:09

Me too, please, Franky!

Northey Tue 06-Nov-12 14:30:09

Don't worry, it was before I friended you, bumfaceparadiso wink

Northey Tue 06-Nov-12 14:34:41

I can do some pimping, euro and frankel, to save you waiting...

FrankelDeBeauvoir Tue 06-Nov-12 14:50:05

Pimp me Norf grin

FrankelDeBeauvoir Tue 06-Nov-12 17:21:19

Oooo, I have new FB friends grin

Pimp frank to me pls

MissSlapAndTipple Tue 06-Nov-12 18:10:11

Hey I wants new FB friends! I'm really annoying though, I use it quite a lot and usually have a status update every few days.....if you can cope with that pm me smile will check in proper a bit later. I have a poopy bum sad

FrankelDeBeauvoir Tue 06-Nov-12 18:17:56

Should we get a speshal FB page. Invite only-like.

lovesLemonDrizzleCake Tue 06-Nov-12 18:18:10

Can't I leave you lot alone for a day and you all become friends? I am the opposite of a fb-whore and fairly paranoid, so I might need a bit more time to pimp myself out...

Hiss boo to poopy bum.

I worked really hard all day and now I am back on the assignment... So I'll be popping in and out!

SinkyGoodenplenty Tue 06-Nov-12 18:59:02

Ooh. I'm a bit scared. I am neither lithe nor bootiful, but I'd you think you can cope with my inane chatter here and there I'm in!

Who should I pm?

MissSlapAndTipple Tue 06-Nov-12 19:04:34

I have stalked and captured Frankel. I am rather in love with her profile outfit smile

yes boo for poopy bum indeed, I am not enjoying. My boss returned today after a bout of dodgy tummy so hope I haven't caught that. Unless the squits is a sign of being updiffed?

Good luck with the assignment Lemon. I was always impressed by my ability to distract myself with anything when one of those damn things was due in. All starts up again in February.

Sinks and slaps - pm me

MissSlapAndTipple Tue 06-Nov-12 19:26:54

Can I do that from a phone? I can't see a message function?

SinkyGoodenplenty Tue 06-Nov-12 19:45:19

Sent. This feels like some sort of Internet dating. Or the first day at school. Or a weird hybrid.

lovesLemonDrizzleCake Tue 06-Nov-12 19:51:29

Bunch o'Slappers Ye'all!

Written 400 words, time for tea and brownie, I guess.

MissSlapAndTipple Tue 06-Nov-12 19:53:20

Oh damn it. Pm me people I can't bloody message from this god damn phone sad

Northey Tue 06-Nov-12 19:53:39

Who am I missing? sinky and slapster, I think. And the elusive lemon... <bides time>

MissSlapAndTipple Tue 06-Nov-12 20:06:38

Pm me Northy. I'm about to dunk my expensive phone in the bath in frustration!

HavingALittleFaithBaby Tue 06-Nov-12 20:06:59

slap have you tried going on the mobile website?

MissSlapAndTipple Tue 06-Nov-12 20:30:26

Well, I've managed to work out how to send a message. I'm so clever!

Northey Tue 06-Nov-12 20:48:30

It's like an orgy!

AMNH's pre IVF blood results came back clear today - woo hoo! No-one has asked me for any...

LauraPalmerPlusOne Tue 06-Nov-12 20:54:34

<Parachutes in brandishing a magnum of champagne and a bucket of fresh kippers>

An ESH meet up, you say? Can I play? Pretty puleeeeze?

(I'm PMable for FB, too if you want me..., but only with a disclaimer that I'm a very lazy FBer.)

I am feeling fat and sassy and ready to rumble...

[this message will explode if Mitt gains the presidency]

<waddles off to eat sausages and watch the election coverage>

FrankelDeBeauvoir Tue 06-Nov-12 21:03:22

Dara O'Brian's Science Club on BBC2 right now looking at reproduction <gets out notepad>

<swipes one of LP's sausages>

alwyn Tue 06-Nov-12 21:09:33

Argh, RL has stolen me away yet again and I'm ridiculously behind.

First half term went so well I handed in my notice at the end of it grin Am applying back to accounting thingies and have a couple of meetings with recruiters in the pipeline so I'm not concerned about finding something else.

Glad to hear things seem to be progressing for some BESH and slap with a fish for those who are a bit miz (including myself for that matter).

My head of department has announced her diffedness as well. I'm fucking SURROUNDED.

[whispers - And I'm also not yet in my 30s - 4th January and I'm in there]

SinkyGoodenplenty Tue 06-Nov-12 21:09:41

It's going to be pretty tough keeping track of everyone's mn/real names!

Frankle - I think I remember your photo from the races and have sent a friend request (k mc)

<steals lps other sausage>

alwyn Tue 06-Nov-12 21:10:12

Oh yeah, and I'm always up for some new FB friends. I dunno whether you can PM me here or not. Will check - feel free to add.

SinkyGoodenplenty Tue 06-Nov-12 21:12:48

And naice to see you back al

Join the miz club. But glad to hear 1st term went so well... Are you glad the move has been made?

<overlooks the 2 months off 30th>

FrankelDeBeauvoir Tue 06-Nov-12 21:16:45

Accepted Sinky

JethroTull Tue 06-Nov-12 21:17:14

I am usually dull on FB but if anyone feels the need to laugh at my photos feel free to PM me grin

alwyn Tue 06-Nov-12 21:17:51

Thanks for the welcome back sinky. I'm so relieved I've finally made a move. Just knowing there's an end to it all makes me a bit happier. I can start afresh somewhere else doing something where I'm not having to watch my back all the time.

Does it help if I tell you my joints ache and I have an ear infection that makes me feel about 45? grin

Feeling vair popular with all my new friends today

Woohoo for clear blood norf smile

SinkyGoodenplenty Tue 06-Nov-12 21:36:52

Oh, missed AMNHs blood. Well done that man. Maybe, just maybe, they think youve had enough bloods fr now Norf? (haven't we all?)

MissSlapAndTipple Tue 06-Nov-12 21:52:46

Well I never, some cheeky mare who I don't know has requested me! I need to fight laptop off MATVand block block block! Then go to bed, I am getting claw hand from amount of phone clutching tonight

EuroShagmore Tue 06-Nov-12 22:07:40

alwyn going back to number crunching sounds like the right move.

norfy excellent about AMNH's bloods. Maybe they tested yours when you were in for tubal botheration?

I have very much enjoyed nosing around the pages of my new FB buddies today. I am happy to add anyone else that would like it. (Drizz I've always been a bit cagey about FB friends too - I had two rules: only people I knw IRL and no work folks. I've broken the first of those today and if any of you turn out to work with me I'll have broken the second! If I survive the week, perhaps you will feel safer? <Muses>)

Sorry to those of you in the miz club.

I'm just at the start of shag week and I have a fanjo injury. I think I got a bit carried away the other night and tore something. Ouchy. And if a willy can tear it, how tf am I expected to get a baby through there??? It's definitely a design flaw.

HavingALittleFaithBaby Tue 06-Nov-12 22:08:18

It's weird isn't it? Strange to put faces and names to the concept of people you feel you 'know'.

Great news norf, you're on your way!
Sorry it's delay central for you jeffers sad how crap!

alwyn I'd been wondering about you! Sorry to hear it was a rubbish half term but glad you've been able to make your decision and I hope you find a new job in the number crunching soon.

I had my 16 week check up today - all good, got to hear the heart beat. Cried a bit <wussy>

SinkyGoodenplenty Tue 06-Nov-12 22:15:01

Aw. Baby faife heart beat. Seems more real now I know you're a real person (iykwim...)

Fanjo injury Euro? Just how vigorous was this schexy fun?!

BugsyGalore Tue 06-Nov-12 22:27:26

No idea how I pm from my phone but happy to add u all on fb.

Will pm as soon as I am at my pc and I have a minute.

Shag dictator users when do u class as cd 1? I have brown gunk but no red yet. Suspect red Will come in the night / tomorrow .

alwyn Tue 06-Nov-12 22:52:37

Aww faif awesome to hear the heartbeat!

MissSlapAndTipple Wed 07-Nov-12 07:30:25

Lovely hearing the heartbeat faith! Amazing smile

Euro how on earth do you damage your fanjo shagging? That's just showing off :p

Bugs I tend to count day 1 as first day of red stuff.

Good work on the pre-IVF bloods Northy!

Sorry work work is shitty. Diffdness should not be tolerated at work, especially if they yak about it all the time, even when you don't ask!

Right, best go to work.

MissSlapAndTipple Wed 07-Nov-12 07:31:20

That last bit was for alwyn. I seem to be subconsciously telling myself I have to go to work sad

Northey Wed 07-Nov-12 08:24:59

<eyes KFZK in awe>

Congratulations on heartbeat, lovely faithicle! And a celebratory gentle buzzwam grope for luck.

Off to GP this morning for madness check. Hopefully she will confirm I am now better. I might follow up the counselling thing with her. I had a free sesh from work, but didn't really take to it. Maybe a medically arranged one would b e better.

Northey Wed 07-Nov-12 08:25:54

Oh, and bugs - looks like I'll be up your way in mid December...

LauraPalmerPlusOne Wed 07-Nov-12 10:11:57

Stealing sausages from an updiffed woman - the cheek!

Am I a complete dork for being excited about having new ESH FB friends?


But it makes me feel all warm and smoochy. grin

Good luck for all the upcoming bizness...

<stealthily retreats back into lurking mode>

HavingALittleFaithBaby Wed 07-Nov-12 10:15:52

Mmm we had sausages for tea last night!

You seem better in yourself norf, how are you finding being back at work?

Fanks for the congrats! 'twas super reassuring smile

Northey Wed 07-Nov-12 10:44:48

Being back at work is positive, despite being anxiety-inducing in its own right. Am taking it slow and trying not to panic at the FAILURE that seems permanently imminent!

Had a lovely chat with lovely doctor. She wants to check up again in a few weeks but agrees the trend is definitely upwards and she hopes to leave me alone after that session. Now I'm going to go for a nice walk in the woods for fresh air and exercise, I think <inspired by her pre IVF healthy living pep talk>

FriendofDorothy Wed 07-Nov-12 10:59:48

I did wonder whether we should create some sort of BESH private group, if only so that we can post out MN names so we don't forget who is who. I have a terrible memory!

EuroShagmore Wed 07-Nov-12 11:00:12

I'm not entirely sure how the fanjo injury happened. I have done it before. I think everything is just a little tight down there... I can't even blame KFZK as I was <ahem> in control of the session when the injury occurred....

Norfy you are sounding so much better. smile I guess you just have to click with the counsellor. I have only ever had one counselling sesh - the one I had in the middle of my IVF drug induced lunacy. I didn't find it that session, save for it forced me to articlulate my fears and the things I didn't like about the process and that consolidated our decision to go for natural/mild next time.

faif how awesome to hear the heartbeat!

HavingALittleFaithBaby Wed 07-Nov-12 11:35:37

I found that with counselling the first two sessions feel like dragging up stuff you don't want to talk about, the next few sessions are constructive and you move forward. I would encourage anyone having counselling to go to at least three. norf your doc sounds ace! Enjoy the walk.

I am trying to clean but doing one of those flitting round the house not really actually achieving anything whirl winds! smile

EuroShagmore Wed 07-Nov-12 13:27:37

session=helpful. I really should proof my posts.

Northey Wed 07-Nov-12 14:50:42

Arghh!! Just phoned up to check that the fax of AMNH's blood results had arrived, and asked casually if they could check they had everything they needed from me. You know what the answer was already... On hold to local surgery now to see if I can get a slot for everything later today. WHY didn't I phone a week ago when they contacted AMNH and not me? <fumes>

Northey Wed 07-Nov-12 15:31:14

Right. Back here for the second time today, this time being waved at by a most enchanting toddler waiting for his injections. I will win one. I will.

HavingALittleFaithBaby Wed 07-Nov-12 16:32:40

<waves pom poms>

This will be how you get your win norf, I am certain of it (brooking no argument for you!) smile

Northey Wed 07-Nov-12 16:42:28

Ouch! Gallons of blood and some cervical swabs later...

EuroShagmore Wed 07-Nov-12 17:25:48

The things we put ourselves through, eh?

HavingALittleFaithBaby Wed 07-Nov-12 17:31:08

Well done norf.

Here you go <passes 'I was brave at the doctors' sticker over>

Northey Wed 07-Nov-12 17:34:50

I had a gorgeous nurse though. She's pregnant but struggled for years and years for her win, and is so lovely.

Shit. I now basically have a crush on every single female healthcare professional at that surgery.

Northey Wed 07-Nov-12 17:35:16

Do I get a lolly as well, faif?

HavingALittleFaithBaby Wed 07-Nov-12 17:46:24

That's ok norf, you're allowed to have girl crushes smile and yes, have a lolly too. Cuppa chup? Strawberries and cream is my favourite.

FrankelDeBeauvoir Wed 07-Nov-12 17:47:01

grin @ Norf and her alarmingly large number of girl crushes wink

I am feeling crampy today, suspect droid is en route sad

sad frank

<goes to register at norf's sexy surgery>

Where the fuck has my sad face for droidy frankel gone?

Oh it came back

<hasn't even started on the cocktails>

alwyn Wed 07-Nov-12 18:08:41

Maybe you should hmm

MissSlapAndTipple Wed 07-Nov-12 18:27:37

ohhh I got Euro and Faith now. So I think I've collected 4 BESH tokens smile

BugsyGalore Wed 07-Nov-12 18:52:45

Right I have PM'd those of you who said you'd be my friend. If i've missed you out accidentally please say so.

Dor re the list, i'll create it if you like via a private BESH page. The CRESH have one so we can too.

I'll do it tomorrow unless someone else wants to do it before then.

SinkyGoodenplenty Wed 07-Nov-12 19:09:56

We need that group. I have no idea who is who now.

Bugs. Are we friends?! I'll pm you now...

BugsyGalore Wed 07-Nov-12 19:21:15

FB secret group created. Anyone who wants adding PM me your RL name.

Should i include other ESH i'm FB friends with? They're mainly all CRESH.

FriendofDorothy Wed 07-Nov-12 20:18:21

A BESH FB secret group! What an excellent idea. Someone very clever must have thought of that! ;)

Northey Wed 07-Nov-12 20:42:05

Although I love and rejoice for PESH I knew as BESH, I am not sure I want to be in a group full of people who have won their baybees already if I wasn't with them for the struggle, if you see what I mean. Otherwise it just feels like more of the same old thing of being confronted with mothers and baybees everywhere you go and less of the safe haven of barrens.

But then that probably isn't fair on those of you who have been here longer and therefore were with those CRESH for the struggle.

Hmmm. How do other people feel?

FrankelDeBeauvoir Wed 07-Nov-12 20:52:18

I know where you are coming from Norf, but I do think it would be sad to throw someone out/lose contact just because they move from PESH to CRESH. I'm sure they will not post anything insensitive within the confines of the BESH group.

Northey Wed 07-Nov-12 20:54:40

Fair point, frank. Their inner ESH will keep them true.

So long as they know they are privileged invitees to the BESH party

A very good friend gave birth today. She stopped using contraceptive in mid January. I ought to be happy for her but nearly bawled my eyes out buying her card on the way home.

LauraPalmerPlusOne Wed 07-Nov-12 21:11:56

I understand Norf - it's the same concern that makes me feel reluctant to post on the BESH freds nowadays although it doesn't stop me from lurking.

I just hope all of you know that the current PESH are some of your biggest fans. (No pun intended).

The reason I ended up as an ESH fred is because I love gin felt at home with the ESHness sense of humour being dished out during a not so humorous stretch of TTCing.

Basically, you iz all a bunch of gorgeous, sassy, raunchy, strong laydees and I will always luffs you for supporting me through some very dark times.

So put that in yer pipe and smoke it.

<pounces a snog on Norf>

FrankelDeBeauvoir Wed 07-Nov-12 21:13:04

I'm visiting my BF on Friday to meet her baby. I thought she wasn't ready for visitors yet, turns out she was waiting for me to tell her I felt up to it! I am taking her some home-made lasagne (frozen), cake and Prosseco. We will both probably sob on each other, she says she is an emotional wreck!

Have I collected you LP+1?

SinkyGoodenplenty Wed 07-Nov-12 21:43:20

I've always thought of myself as a gorgeous, sassy, raunchy, strong laydee.


Am amused by winkly "collecting" the BESH.

I am also leaning towards Norfs way of thinking. But as long as the graduates promise to remain bitter and in no way cuntish, it might work. (I can also see the problem with exiling those with win. Which will be all of us, sooner or later)

BugsyGalore Wed 07-Nov-12 21:49:40

Tell you what, i'll decide. Lets keep it to BESH and recent PESH for now. The PESH who post on here and we all know are all added now anyway.

BTW Me & Norf are meeting up in December so ner ner ner ner ner smile

Northey Wed 07-Nov-12 21:54:55

I think I'm also anxious about being revealed to people I haven't chosen to reveal myself to, if you see what I mean. I know some RL friends of mine are past BESH/PESH, and I also know a couple of CRESH are friends of friends of AMNH (because I have awesome stalking and deducing skills), and I don't necessarily want all of them to make the link.

This isn't an ESH v BESH point though. It's more a group v not group. I think I'm basically just talking myself out of joining it.

FriendofDorothy Wed 07-Nov-12 21:55:52

Oh I am still bitter. I pride myself on it!

Northey Wed 07-Nov-12 21:56:35

Though BESH and recent PESH sounds ok so maybe I will join after all. <gracious>

BugsyGalore Wed 07-Nov-12 22:01:00

Shit, I may have 'outed' you Norf on the group by adding you. I will let you add yourself if you so choose to.

blonderthanred Wed 07-Nov-12 22:03:31

Hello, I haven't posted on here for a while because as Norf says I have won my baybee and that is not necessarily what you want to hear about when you are going through shitty difficult times.

However it's luffly to see who you all are and be able to say hello, so I'm glad to be invited to the top secret clubhouse. I am still very much a lurker and follower of BESHly fortunes.

BugsyGalore Wed 07-Nov-12 22:04:38

We're missing draf and Winks - No pressure ladies but if you wish to stalk join us on FB PM me.

BugsyGalore Wed 07-Nov-12 22:06:08

Did you have a baby boy blonde? I've gone slack and forgotten. Also, do you live on a boat or is that someone else?

<slaps self>

Northey Wed 07-Nov-12 22:09:07

Don't worry bugs, these are very remote ESH so I don't think I'm in any immediate danger. I could just see how it could spiral with friends adding friends till inevitably someone I knew popped up!

bugs am vair confused about who am friends with and not but will join in

Ok fairly sure am friends with Bugs and am on group

BugsyGalore Wed 07-Nov-12 22:13:41

Oh, I may have missed you. Add yourself to the list and we can ensure we know who is who!

This is bloody confusing isn't it smile

HavingALittleFaithBaby Wed 07-Nov-12 22:23:49

Anyone else feeling a bit exposed?!

norf I get how you feel and reckon only those who've been BESH along with you should really be in the group!

Northey Wed 07-Nov-12 22:24:10

<fondles all the lurking PESH in turn> And I hope you all know how pleased we are for you and how much we still enjoy beating you with fish and stuff. There is much luff for you.

Northey Wed 07-Nov-12 22:27:57

Yes faif, because it is All About Me smile

Nah, much as I would like to insist on such things, there's just so much overlap with everyone having been a BESH with someone else at some point.

I think I might just need to go in small steps towards a group and join it a bit later or something.

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

norf I nominate you as Queen BESH and argue that it IS all about you.

Northey Wed 07-Nov-12 22:44:52

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Can I just reiterate that Northey is truly awesome and it is all about her.

Thank you smile

LauraPalmerPlusOne Wed 07-Nov-12 23:58:17

List? What list? (Am I allowed to know the secret handshake?)

<proffers copious amounts of gin and limes to the Secret FB ESH Club Queens>

MissSlapAndTipple Thu 08-Nov-12 07:31:05

I know how you feel about being a bit careful, I was quiet about it all for a fair while but I've gone beyond caring. Most of our friends know, it's just something going on in my life and we get on with it. I also think when I first told people they were a bit 'yeah yeah drama queen, you just need more sex' but now time has gone on and they've seen how long it is still taking they know the issues are real and how shit it is.

Anyway, I'm mega crampy and have thrush on the way so no doubt the droid will arrive as expected on Saturday sad

MissSlapAndTipple Thu 08-Nov-12 07:32:59

Actually, my family and our friends know. The only people who don't know are MATVs family (mum included), and my boss who I really ought to tell given the amount of time I spend wandering off to the hospital! I'm sure she thinks I'm desperatly ill or something! What do you think?

FrankelDeBeauvoir Thu 08-Nov-12 07:58:46

Only my parents and 1 friend (on Facebook) know we are TTC. However, the point of a secret group, as I understand it, is that only members can see comments. As long as we're careful to keep the sechs/baybee talk to within the confines of the group I don't think anyone else will see it.

Slap, I told my boss and colleagues (only have 2) about our problems. They needed to know really as this treatment requires a lot of back and forth to the hospital. It's probably a good idea to at least tell your boss, you don't want to end up on the receiving end of a formal warning due to excessive absence,

evilgiraffe Thu 08-Nov-12 08:30:50

Morning all. I shall keep my distance on FB for the meantime, if that's alright? I'm not sure I can deal with all of you being real people just yet smile

The only people who don't know about our TTC woes are our families, pretty much all of our friends know and I've cried on several of them. I'm off to see my parents for a few days on Sunday though, so maybe I will confess while I'm there. Or bottle it again, we shall see...

blonderthanred Thu 08-Nov-12 09:32:19

Boy = Yes
Boat = No

EuroShagmore Thu 08-Nov-12 17:05:33

What happpened with the deleted posts on the last page?

Sheesh. I leave you lot alone for one day....

It's odd, I have told loads of people IRL about our ttc woes (being careful not to mention it to work folks) but I have been careful to keep it off the Book of Face and another forum I use where a lot of people know my identity. It's probably a control thing. There are some proper tvvats on the other forum who could potentially come out with some hurtful stuff, so it's for the best.

SinkyGoodenplenty Thu 08-Nov-12 18:11:34

Embarrassingly, most of my friends know about my ttc woes (except, I think, like tipps most think I'm just being melodramatic) but the families on both sides have no idea. I keep meaning to tell my mum, but it would worry her. And I think she quite enjoys having a "career driven" daughter (she gave up a successful job when she had kids in the 70's).

Norf, I feel the same about having it all aired. But a secret group will be ok, right? No one else can see my membership? (this is a real question- not trying to convince you. If people can see, I'll be out)

And faife. Was my post on your page ok? It seemed ok at the time (apart from the fact I was outing my love of knitting.. The shame), but was I outing the Besh inadvertantly?

Lordy. This is getting difficult.

Anyway. Off home now. What should I have for dinner? The boy is rudely out having fun without me.

FrankelDeBeauvoir Thu 08-Nov-12 18:43:51

I have been very busy writing a business plan on my course all day so will keep it short:

Droid showed up - 1day early. Bollocks!

That is all sad

evilgiraffe Thu 08-Nov-12 18:47:27

Aww, Frankel sad I'm due the droid imminently too - theoretically due on Sunday but I'm hoping for either Sat or Mon as I'm driving for six hours to get to my parents on Sunday. Sorting out droid in service stations is something I'd rather avoid if I can...

FrankelDeBeauvoir Thu 08-Nov-12 18:53:04

It could be January at the earliest before we can start treatment again. HWHNN goes away for 10 days the week after next which, if I reacted as quickly to the drugs this time, would be bang on ov time. Problem is, if my next cycle goes over 30 days (bear in mind I've never had a natural cycle under 35 hmm), they will not accept me after 10th December because they close over Christmas and New Year.

MissSlapAndTipple Thu 08-Nov-12 19:11:50

Right I have updated the doc of documents smile

Frankel you are right I really ought to tell my boss. We had a right artard HR guy up until a few weeks ago, I would NOT have wanted him to know anything but he is now gone sort of and I have a performance review next week so I will talk to my boss then. She is amazingly understanding about everything though so I know it wont be an issue, just might feel a bit weird saying 'Im trying to get pregnant so, thanks for the promotion but I'll be disappearing as soon as I can'! Sorry to hear Droid arrived. Mine is due on Saturday - this has been THE longest TWW I've ever had, I feel miserable and bloated and just uurrrggghhhh. Horrible.

Sinky - I hope you got something suitably bad for you for dinner seeing as you've been abandoned!

Evil I know what you mean on the bottling it front - I've tried to tell MiL a few times but it's a weird conversation to bring up. 'Oh we're trying to have a baby', queue shrieking excitement from MiL only to then say 'oh but actually we've been trying since like forever and I'm probably barren so don't get too excited'. I also actually don't think she would 'get it'. Having had four herself I think she'd probably just assume that we weren't doing it right or have some weird ridiculous opinion (formed solely from reading the daily wail and daily express) of how no-one should have IVF because it's poisoning society. I dunno, really not sure I'm gonna crack that one right.

MissSlapAndTipple Thu 08-Nov-12 19:14:17

Just saw what you said about HWHNN being away Frankel. That's shit sad It's a shame we can't bottle spunk and save it up if OHs are going to be away. That would be ingenious.

I asked MATV if he reckoned we might be able to train his spunk to swim up to the egg, let one get in while the others tuck in behind the egg and push it down the tube? They must be clever little buggers to find their way to the eggs so surely that's not beyond the realms of possibility?

lovesLemonDrizzleCake Thu 08-Nov-12 20:02:05

You had posts withdrawn shock and made friends double shock.
I on the other hand worked, and am doing the bloody assignment, due in tomorrow, now over 3000 words, but half of it still needing (decent) references. I have become such a slack student...

lovesLemonDrizzleCake Thu 08-Nov-12 20:03:02

Oh and hiss boo to Frank's droid. It came with mine like a thief in the night Sorry about cycle woes, and stupid planning. Meh