TTC first child, anybody else in the same boat? Thread 2

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Bunnygirlie Sat 15-Sep-12 22:34:42

The old thread was getting chocca so lets start again lovely ladies -

Bunnygirlie - 32, married, TTC since June, AF due 5th Oct

ZombiesAreClammyDodgers Sun 16-Sep-12 08:58:47

Reporting to duty! Will add in my details when I log in on the computer.

ella0 Sun 16-Sep-12 09:23:37

Hello, can I join in please (I'm on the Oct thread too)?

Ella0, 32, married, TTC since July (on cycle 3), AF due 1st Oct.

Bunnygirlie Sun 16-Sep-12 09:44:56

All newbies welcome :-)

ella0 Sun 16-Sep-12 10:01:07

Thank you smile

Pipbin Sun 16-Sep-12 13:52:29

Hello chapesses.
Pipbin, 37, TTC since May 2011.

Mixology Sun 16-Sep-12 15:28:45

Hello! I'm new to this - can I join?

I'm 32, married and this is our first month TTC ( although I'm not holding out much hope for this month ).

Pipersouth Sun 16-Sep-12 17:11:28

Hi I'd like to join in too !! Only just TTC for a few months,married,36 nice to know others are going through it :-)

Pipbin Sun 16-Sep-12 17:15:19

Hi Piper Nice to meet someone my own age. I was beginning to feel like a grand old lady here.

I might just change my name to The Dowager Duchess at this rate.

Pipersouth Sun 16-Sep-12 17:34:21

Hi Pipbin the Dowager Duchess definately has a ring to it!! The age thing has a bit of a sting to it even though everyone else is in the same boat I feel a bit daft I left it so long

Mixology Sun 16-Sep-12 19:18:23

Well none of us seem to be 22 so I imagine the " age thing" is on everyone's minds. At least we're all getting around to it now!

Bunnygirlie Sun 16-Sep-12 21:42:21

I think on our previous thread we were all over 30 so none of us are spring chickens ;-)

janey1234 Mon 17-Sep-12 06:58:18

Yes, I'm 37 (nearly 38) so far away from
being a spring chicken...

Second cycle of ttc and reaching ovulation time of this month: wish me luck!smile

Dexidoo Mon 17-Sep-12 07:23:56

Hello everyone! I'm on the monthly threads but have been lurking around here for a while smile

I'm Dexi, 33, married for 4 years and on ? Cycle 7 at the moment.

I had my coil out in Jan and ditched the condoms in March ( we were a bit scared of getting pg straight away, oh the irony!) I did get pg in May but miscarried at 6 weeks. So here we are 6 months down the line and I'd stupidly assumed I would be knocked up by now.

4 DPO today...

janey1234 Mon 17-Sep-12 10:45:25

So here's what I know (and correct me if I'm wrong!) - others add yourselves on

Bunnygirlie - 32, married, TTC since June, AF due 5th Oct
Ella0 - 32, married, TTC since July (on cycle 3), AF due 1st Oct
Pipbin - 37, TTC since May 2011
Janey - 37, TTC since Aug, AF due 2nd Oct
Mixology - 32, married, first month TTC
Pipersouth - 36, TTC for a few months

WhiskeryWoman Mon 17-Sep-12 12:56:49

Hey there, room for another one?!

I'm 31, have been ttc first baby for 10 cycles with no luck. I've been using CBFM but given up with it now
as it got too stressful.  I was pregnant this time last year but lost it at 16 weeks... so at least I know we can do it!! We'd been trying (not very hard tho) for 2 years for that pregnancy.

I'm really fedup of ttc this time as I so desperately want to be pregnant and have a baby in my arms. I was also really naive to think I'd get a bfp immediately because I was using a cbfm and really understand my body now (unlike last time) so I feel so deeply disappointed each time as I know we're doing everything we can.

Ttc is a tad tricky at the mo as my dp is recovering from a big knee op. so the only way (soz if tmi) is me on top (plus he's tired and in pain)... so I think the next few cycles are written off. Although he's as desperate for a baby as me so will grin and bear it, but it's hardly sweet and romantic, it's all a bit functional and mechanical which puts me off even trying.

frantastic1 Mon 17-Sep-12 17:23:28

Hello thread#2!
Im fantastic, 34 been married for 3 years TTC since June.
hazel isn't here yet is she? I just wanted to say how sorry I was but it WILL happen. Everyone here wants it too much for it not to, and will all be wonderful mothers. I love that everyone is in their 30s.
We've just been away for hubby's birthday. No jiggly though. AF arrived last week. So DTD will commence with vigour on 23 sep!
hello to the newbies x x

janey1234 Mon 17-Sep-12 17:35:01

Oh I'm sorry whiskery. I too was of this time last year and had a mc in oct at 12 weeks - cant imagine how tough it would have been four weeks later... Hugs... But welcome and hopefully this time round we'll be luckier.

No sign of hazel yet no, hope she finds us...

And welcome newbies, fingers crossed for us all...

HazleNutt Mon 17-Sep-12 18:11:45

I think I heard my name smile

Sure, put me back on the list - 33 (34 in a few weeks), TTC for a couple of months.

janey1234 Mon 17-Sep-12 20:46:21

Hi hazle - and hoorah, you found us! Hope you're doing ok x

HazleNutt Mon 17-Sep-12 20:52:27

oh sure, I'm fine. Thanks for asking!

And you and everybody else - any pregnancy symptoms this month?

Bunnygirlie Mon 17-Sep-12 21:15:29

Hello ladies, from the old thread and newbies :-)
Hope you are all well. Whiskery thats so bloody rotten! Like you said at least you know you and hubby have working parts, my parenst tried for 5+ years before I came along and she said if she'd at least had a mc she would have know they could make a baby - does that make sense?
According to my app where I input dates etc I am at in my fertile period so DTD every other day at the mo - it does seem a tad forced but needs must I guess ;-p

janey1234 Mon 17-Sep-12 21:23:44

I'm with you bunny - according to the app am ovulating on thursday... So hazle, I've not got round to imagining symptoms yet this month ...!

ella0 Mon 17-Sep-12 22:13:11

I started using clear blue digital ovulation sticks this month. I have a regular cycle so wasn't going to bother until we'd been trying for 6 months (as I can estimate when my fertile period is), but my husband had heard good things about them, and I thought they'd provide some reassurance that I'm working properly (I've been with my husband for 13yrs and never been on the pill, so I'm a bit worried that I've never accidentally become pregnant, when so many people on the pill seem to).

I had my first smile today on CD14, so I'm in my fertile period too.

Fingers crossed for you all.

Lilyjosh Mon 17-Sep-12 22:21:56

Hi everyone, can I join you all please.

On my 2nd cycle of trying this month, af due 21st sept, no symptoms so don't think we've been lucky this month.

I'm 35 and been married 4 months

Fx for everyone

Bunnygirlie Mon 17-Sep-12 22:34:55

What app you using janey?
Not sure whether to try ov sticks or not yet, only 4th month trying.
Fed up already, everywhere I look some woman is PG, including one of my best mates :-s aaaagh

Pipbin Mon 17-Sep-12 22:50:38

Ella0 I too am worried that I have never had an accidental pregnancy, seeing that most of my uni friends did.
How have the OV sticks been working for you?

I really recommend using Fertility Friend Its great to track your periods, sex and ovulation.

I always swore that I wouldn't be one of those women who take her temperature, but I have done since January, as you can see.

I find it really helps.

janey1234 Mon 17-Sep-12 22:51:04

It's a free app called my days. The only thing is that before I went on the pill a few months ago my cycle was never regular - anything from 23-27 days or so, so I'm not sure how accurate the app will be... As such I'm using the clear blue digital sticks (planning for this month only to give me a clue when it happens) still waiting for my smile...
Welcome to more newbies - lots of us in the same boat here! x

cwtching Tue 18-Sep-12 02:05:48

Hello!

I'm Cwtching - I'm 32 and married to the lovely H. We've been TTC since February. AF is due tomorrow (if my cycles are sticking to 25 days) - I did a test on Sunday which came back negative so just waiting for it to appear sad. DH has been diagnosed with varicocele which he's been told may or may not affect his fertility. It's hard not knowing either way - I can't help worrying about it particularly as we've been trying for a while.

October will be cycle 9. I have found the last couple of months a bit hard / upsetting, it can be emotionally draining can't it? I hadn't told anyone in the RW about TTC so I have been bottling it all up a bit. Last week I was chatting to a friend on the phone and it just sort of slipped out into the conversation that we'd been trying with no success. She's such a strong wonderful person (with a baby of her own) and she said with so much feeling how hard a process it is. I had to bite back the tears because it was so great to know that what I was feeling was normal and such a relief to have spoken to someone about it. I feel much more positive now.

I've added myself to the list smile along with a few who needed including ... appologies if I have any of the info wrong. I also had a stab at putting it in date order - not on a power trip! (I'll be at the bottom tomorrow I'm sure!):

Cwtching- 32, Cycle 8, AF due 18th September
LilyJosh - 35, Cycle 2, AF due 21st Sept
Ella0 - 32, married, TTC since July (on cycle 3), AF due 1st Oct
Janey - 37, TTC since Aug, AF due 2nd Oct
Bunnygirlie - 32, married, TTC since June, AF due 5th Oct
Frantastic1 - 34, Cycle?, AF due?
Pipbin - 37, TTC since May 2011, AF due?
HazelNutt - 33, trying for a couple of months, AF due?
Mixology - 32, married, first month TTC, AF due?
Pipersouth - 36, TTC for a few months, AF due?
WhiskeryWoman - 31, Cycle 10, AF due?

It's definitely a 30's thread! I have all my fingers and toes crossed for BFPs for everyone! X

ZombiesAreClammyDodgers Tue 18-Sep-12 04:13:02

Hi could anyone add me to the list please?
Zombies, cycle 1, AF due Oct 3 (according to My Days app- PCOS so dodgy cycle).

ZombiesAreClammyDodgers Tue 18-Sep-12 04:14:37

Erm whoops that's
Zombies, 32, cycle 1 dodgy cycle, AF possibly due Oct 3.

caboodles Tue 18-Sep-12 05:04:11

Hello! I'd like to join the 30s thread!

I'm 30 and only just came off the pill on 1st Sept... not sure when that means AF is due. I think it usually takes a while for things to get going again, last time I took a break from the pill I think it took 6 weeks for AF to show up.

Anybody NOT counting? Me and my DP aren't timing anything, just carrying on as normal but without contraception. We don't want any pressure! We realised we're happy as we are for another year or so, but also ready if a littley comes along. So we're waiting to see what happens.

We're not married, not sure how the folks will take it...

Nice to meet everyone!

Lilyjosh Tue 18-Sep-12 07:51:49

Morning!

Caved this morning and did a test, was so determined to wait but it was calling me from the cupboard! negative, although may be a little early, but as I've no symptoms not hoping much. Roll on the next moth of trying seems like ages away!

HazleNutt Tue 18-Sep-12 08:43:18

Morning all!
Sure you can just have fun and see what happens, caboodles!
If some others here want to get pregnant ASAP though, I would certainly recommend some kind of fertility monitor. Why guess when we have all the technology available to assist us? And really the window is so short, you don't want to miss it just because you were a bit busy or tired for a couple of evenings.

Just ordered a big batch of pregnancy tests although I won't need them for a good few weeks. Better to be prepared though, right?

Nice to see I'm not the only 30+ woman trying for the first. Bought DH this book: www.amazon.co.uk/Pregnancy-Men-whole-nine-months/dp/190541062X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1347953982&sr=8-1
He was reading and commented that according to the book, there are now more first time mothers in UK in the 30-34 age group than in 25-30. Interesting.

ZombiesAreClammyDodgers Tue 18-Sep-12 08:44:57

Can't wait to start using mine! Unfortunately next cycle is AGES away.

Quodlibet Tue 18-Sep-12 09:05:38

Hello all, can I join you please? We have been TTC sice December, though quite a few cycles since then have been write-offs: it's been a busy work year for both of us which has meant time apart from each other and a couple of months of my cycle going wonky! This month my body is behaving itself so am optimistically on 5dpo, due to test next week in the middle of our holiday.
Oh I am 32, turning 33 next month.

Quodlibet, 32, cycle 7ish, due 27 sept.

HazleNutt Tue 18-Sep-12 09:17:45

welcome Quodlibet, my birthday is in October as well
Already booked a nice restaurant to celebrate. smile

janey1234 Tue 18-Sep-12 10:05:43

Welcome newbies!

hazle - you've booked a table for your birthday? Surely that's his job wink. Have you chosen every course already? That's why I usually do - obsess about the menu for weeks in advance only to get there and finds it's changed...

quod - off anywhere nice? I've got to wait until nov/dec for mine - seems like an eternity away!

Think I'm close to ovulating now - aaaagh got the fear about the next two weeks already, symptom spotting here I come!

HazleNutt Tue 18-Sep-12 10:31:15

janey sure, he did in fact. We're going there, http://www.auberge-saintlaurent.fr/ ,the restaurant has an 8-course surprise menu - had it last time I was there, they basically make you small portions of regular dishes on the menu. Was amazing.

My OV is still ages away and cycle probably messed up this month as well. Will see. I have to say that I really knew last time, the symptoms were certainly there, no doubt about it. Fx for you!

Pipbin Tue 18-Sep-12 13:06:22

As a vetran ttcer I can recommend clear blue fertility monitor and charting on fertility friend.
Chart first before buying the monitor. Also, get the monitor on eBay, much cheaper. I got mine for £30.

janey1234 Tue 18-Sep-12 13:10:55

Looks lovely hazel - and with eight courses you don't have the dilemma of choosing!

Thanks for the eBay tip pip will wait a month or two then give it a go I think smile

Quodlibet Tue 18-Sep-12 13:59:26

I can recommend charting too - I've got a persona monitor that another MNer has kindly lent me, but haven't started using it yet.

We are off to France for our hols - really looking forward to it. Janey where are you going?

ZombiesAreClammyDodgers Tue 18-Sep-12 14:43:12

Is Fertility Friend BBT charting?

janey1234 Tue 18-Sep-12 15:33:43

Just did today's clear blue ovulation predictor pee on a stick thing - got my first smile so guess it's fingers crossed something happens in the next couple of days... Can you tell I'm new to this, getting excited it's going to happen just the second month of trying?!

Think we're going to Thailand for a fortnight in December quod, and am off to Dubai for a few days at the end of Nov which should be fun. Where in France are you off to? I went to the Dordogne in June and loved it!x

HazleNutt Tue 18-Sep-12 16:09:41

Oh I love Thailand janey, where are you planning to go? were there for New Years last year, and the year before as well.
Fingers crossed indeed!

happylass Tue 18-Sep-12 17:30:12

Hello. Can I squeeze on this thread too please? I'm 34 , shacked up with long term partner and came off the mini pill on August 12th. Since then no sign of AF, withdrawal bleed or any kind of spotting. Cycle has always been super regular though no periods whilst I was on the pill either so am guessing it will take a while for things to return to normal. Fx for you all!

janey1234 Tue 18-Sep-12 17:35:18

hazle - we're not sure yet! Been lots of debate over the hol given I might might might be pg... We were planning India but I'm just not sure it's worth risking dodgy tummy and completely exhausting ourselves. So I guess it will depend on our situation - but broadly planning a couple of days in bangkok, some trekking up north near chiang mai, and then a week or so on the islands to the west or Krabi. If pg just Bangkok and beaches?! Any tips? I've travelled to the far east a lot before (Cambodia, Vietnam, Borneo, Indonesia, Malaysia) as my bro used to live in Singapore, but have only been to Thailand once for three days before so am very excited about seeing it properly. All tips gratefully received!xx

janey1234 Tue 18-Sep-12 17:36:46

Ps happy - welcome!! Am sure your cycle will settle down quickly enough.. It's weird what the pill does to your body without anyone really telling you though?!

Rache1S Tue 18-Sep-12 17:43:57

Hi Ladies, any room for another? I am so pleased to find this thread full of thirtysomethings all TTC for the first time. I was starting to feel like I was the only one to leave it so late. These days I have to turn the TV up over the sound of my body clock ticking! So far attempt #1 has been a bit of a rollercoaster! I was having mildish cramps, vivid dreams and cold-like symptoms on 1-7dpo and then on days 8-10 I had the most horrendous PMS and broke out in loads of pimples. Then on 10dpo (yesterday) I spotted most of the day. This has now stopped and I don't seem to have any symptoms at all today (11dpo). Usually 4 days before AF I would still be well in the throws of PMS so i'm a bit baffled as to what's going on?! Has anybody else had similar happening while TTC?

Rache1S, Married, 34, Cycle #1 TTC, AF due 21st September

janey1234 Tue 18-Sep-12 17:55:06

Hi rache and welcome... And compared to me you're a spring chicken wink

Afraid I can't help on your symptoms as I'm usually completely oblivious to my whole cycle, but the spotting could maybe be implantation bleeding maybe?? What does everyone else think? Fingers crossed for you - keep us all updated!x

HazleNutt Tue 18-Sep-12 18:19:34

janey go to Koh Lipe. Gorgeous little island, just one road with restaurants, can spend all your time barefoot. Very relaxing. Or it was a couple of years ago, I certainly hope it has not become too crowded like often happens. If that's the case, there are several similar around there (Muk, Ngai for example)

Guess the trekking would depend on how you feel by Christmas with hopefully morning sickness and all wink

rache1 it might indeed be implantation bleeding, fingers crossed!

ella0 Tue 18-Sep-12 18:26:44

Pipbin this is my first month of using OPKs (3rd month trying). I tested from CD6 (as per instructions) and was really worried when I had a negative result every day (up until yesterday). I think they made me more stressed than I was during the previous two months because I was constantly worrying that I wasn't going to get a positive result.

I think I'll be more relaxed in future months now I know they work for me. I think they're great; for the previous two months we dtd way more than we had to because I wasn't sure exactly when I ovulate (though I could estimate). Using OPKs, I feel like we can take it a bit easier and just concentrate on the few days around ovulation (though we did start before the smiley face, just in case I didn't get one).

Flippin heck, that Fertility Friend graph looks complicated!

cwtching can they do more tests to see if the varicocele will affect your DH's fertility or do you just have to keep trying?

I think it does help talking about it irl. We have told quite a few people now. I initially regretted it as it adds extra pressure (people constantly asking, and it's especially upsetting when you've just got af), but it is good being able to talk about it to certain friends sometimes - I think I would drive myself mad if I couldn't.

It is so nice to see so many others in their 30s ttc #1. That's exactly how I felt rache as most people I know irl had their first in their mid 20s.

Yay for your first smiley janey. I was so excited to get mine!

I thought I had an implantation bleed in month 1 as I had lots of twinges and spotted on around 7dpo - I had never spotted before - but it turns out it was probably due to the Pregnacare Conception I ws taking (a search on the net shows this has happened to lots of people who have taken it - I've stopped taking it now). Last month I had sore boobs which I had never had before, and a night sweat which I have only had when ill, but they disappeared and af turned up! So I give up with symptoms!

Pipbin Tue 18-Sep-12 19:01:42

Hello to new people!

I stopped the pill on the last day of April last year, it took until the September for my cycle to get back to normal and to stop feeling odd.

Yes fertility friend is bbt temping, but I used it to record my cycles and DTDing before I started temping.

Rache1S Tue 18-Sep-12 19:24:35

Ahhh ella0 that's interesting what you say about Pregnacare. I started taking it 3 weeks ago so that could very well explain the spotting. I'm going to finish the packet off and then stop it and just take folic acid as I already have a balanced diet. I suppose there's a small glimmer of hope that it could have been implantation but in the absence of any other symptoms I won't get too excited. If AF is late I will test at the weekend confused

ZombiesAreClammyDodgers Tue 18-Sep-12 20:04:57

Am out of town for some days on work and have a feeling missed ovulation time. Frankly janey like you I'm mostly oblivious to my cycle (found out how many days it was just about ten days ago when started to TTC!) It's probably good in a way as had been making TBWTBs a bit obsessively because of not knowing when or even whether had ovulated.
The CBDT is waiting at home so when I get back will start with that.
Oh and I used conceive plus too these past few days and may I just say that I may never go back to non lube days again and this is probably the most non reactive lube I've ever used. Have been using those single applicators and (TMI alert) have to remember to keep tissue handy because it's no fun waking up terribly sticky with the amount that the applicators contain!
(TBWTBs= the beast with two backs) wink

Mixology Tue 18-Sep-12 21:05:23

I'm already getting slightly obsessive... AF isn't due until 28 September but I went ahead and tested today with a BFN. Does this mean it's all over for this month?

I too have been taking Pregnacare Conception daily. quite creepy about the spotting, but good to know. I would have taken spotting as a definite sign!

ZombiesAreClammyDodgers Tue 18-Sep-12 21:09:13

I saw some reviews on amazon which said pregnacare drove their cycles haywire?!

HazleNutt Tue 18-Sep-12 21:16:56

mix, no, it's simply too early to test.

ella0 Tue 18-Sep-12 21:34:30

rache fingers crossed it is implantation for you.

I'm taking Sainsburys mum & bump tablets now as I can't take my usual multivitamins due to the vitamin A they contain. I haven't had spotting with these (they only contain 100% RDA of vitamins, unlike the Pregnacare conception ones). I did really get my hopes up when I had the spotting, especially as it was on exactly the right days you would normally get it.

zombies I've read that too - that it affects ovulation etc. There's a thread on one forum that goes on for pages, with people talking about the side effects they experienced. Wish I'd read that before I bought it on offer!

mixology I agree with hazel, surely it's way too early to test.

cwtching Wed 19-Sep-12 01:30:06

No AF today but I think it's on it's way! I'm definitely definitely going to try using OPKs this month as it sounds like they do reduce the stress of it a bit! ella I've just booked an appointment with the GP for H and I (we have to wait 3 weeks for one on a sat). We wanted to give it a decent try before we saw anyone as I think normally they say to try for a year and I didn't want to seem neurotic! wink!

Blimey that's awful re the pregnacare conception! I've been taking pregnacare so i'm defo going to be doing some googling. ella that's terrible with the spotting I would have taken it as a sign too.

mixology it is a tad early to test ... I think there's still hope this cycle!

X

Lolcbcblemonlime Wed 19-Sep-12 05:28:36

Hello ladies
I've been away for a week and all my threads have disappeared!!
So I'm now rejoining if I may smile
Have I missed any exciting bfps?
I'm 11 dpo here with not much to report.
I also had spotting with pregnacare so decided not to take it anymore. I'm currently taking the wilkinson ones which were on special offer and when I checked content it was pretty similar to pgcare!

Rache1S Wed 19-Sep-12 10:31:33

I cracked and did a test this morning and it was unsurprisingly BFN shock AF due in 2 days so I cheered myself up by ordering an OPK and a BBT thermometer for next month. grin I'm not too disheartened as it was our first ever month TTC and I quite frankly enjoyed the "practicing." wink I am also looking forward to a nice wine at the weekend. Every cloud....

cwtching Wed 19-Sep-12 12:22:13

Hello Zombies, Caboodles, Quadlibet, HappyLass and Rache! I've added you to the list:

Cwtching- 32, Cycle 8, AF due 18th September
LilyJosh - 35, Cycle 2, AF due 21st Sept
Rache1S - 34, Cycle 1, AF due 21st September
Quodlibet - 32, cycle 7ish, due 27 Sept.
Mixology - 32, married, first month TTC, AF due 28 September
Ella0 - 32, married, TTC since July (on cycle 3), AF due 1st Oct
Janey - 37, TTC since Aug, AF due 2nd Oct
Zombies- 32, cycle 1 dodgy cycle, AF possibly due Oct 3.
Bunnygirlie - 32, married, TTC since June, AF due 5th Oct
Caboodles - 30, Cycle 1, AF due?
Frantastic1 - 34, Cycle?, AF due?
Happylass, 34, Cycle 1, AF due?
HazelNutt - 33, trying for a couple of months, AF due?
Pipbin - 37, TTC since May 2011, AF due?
Pipersouth - 36, TTC for a few months, AF due?
WhiskeryWoman - 31, Cycle 10, AF due?

Sorry about the BFN Rache but grin for the wine and the "practicing".

Hazel I just did a google image search for Koh Lipe, it looks absolutely beautiful - do you have any tips for places to stay on the island?

Lolcbcblemonlime Wed 19-Sep-12 12:31:32

Meeee please! Can I go back on the list?
Lolcbcb 38, married, had mc in July. Ttc ever since. Was just "seeing what happened" until then!

Pipbin Wed 19-Sep-12 13:10:19

I'm liking this thread, we are all over 30. Brilliant.
Not sure when AF is due as I seem to have ov'd a week early!

HazleNutt Wed 19-Sep-12 13:23:45

cwtching well we were there a couple of years ago, so maybe they have built something new, but we stayed here: www.idyllicresort.com/
Lovely resort and it was at the end of the Sunrise beach, so it was nice and quiet. If you want more life on your doostep, stay on Sunset beach. But the island is small, so it's just a few minutes walk from one side of the island to the other anyway.

rache1 if the AF is not even due yet, it might be too early to test, go easy on the wine!

My cycle is probably messed up after the chemical so it's time for us get busy, just in case. Persona monitor claims it's already a "red" day, but they say the monitor might not be accurate after a m/c and it will give you red if in doubt.

Is it just me or is time going by reaallllyyy slowly since you started TTC? Especially those days after OV and before AF?

Quodlibet Wed 19-Sep-12 13:30:41

Oh god REEAAAAAALLLLLY SLOOOOWWWWWWLY.
Have just been sitting here wasting time thinking about the possibility of a free-floating little fertilised egg drifting around waiting to implant - or not. DP seems to have even less patience than me and keeps texting to see if I'm up the duff yet.

HazleNutt Wed 19-Sep-12 14:16:03

grin that's why I got DH the book about pregnancy. Last time I mentioned that it's around OV time and he wakes up next morning "So, are we..??"

MaxDaisy Wed 19-Sep-12 14:29:15

Hey ladies, Im back. Didn't log on for a few days then lost you! Arghhh you were my sanity! Anyway glad i found the new thread!

Well to fill you in, got my AF with a vengence! Just finished so i get to try again this cycle, however really really really wanted that BFP for my birthday this saturday but guess i'll have to settle for lots of lovely wine. (on the brightside though, hubby says he feels bad so has spoilt me a bit more this year, yay!!!)

Cwtching- 32, Cycle 8, AF due 18th September
LilyJosh - 35, Cycle 2, AF due 21st Sept
Rache1S - 34, Cycle 1, AF due 21st September
Quodlibet - 32, cycle 7ish, due 27 Sept.
Mixology - 32, married, first month TTC, AF due 28 September
Ella0 - 32, married, TTC since July (on cycle 3), AF due 1st Oct
Janey - 37, TTC since Aug, AF due 2nd Oct
Zombies- 32, cycle 1 dodgy cycle, AF possibly due Oct 3.
Bunnygirlie - 32, married, TTC since June, AF due 5th Oct
Caboodles - 30, Cycle 1, AF due?
Frantastic1 - 34, Cycle?, AF due?
Happylass, 34, Cycle 1, AF due?
HazelNutt - 33, trying for a couple of months, AF due?
Pipbin - 37, TTC since May 2011, AF due?
Pipersouth - 36, TTC for a few months, AF due?
WhiskeryWoman - 31, Cycle 10, AF due?
MaxDaisy- 32, married, TTC since June, AF due 15th Oct

janey1234 Wed 19-Sep-12 14:46:06

I know - sooooooo slowly. RIDICULOUS. Feels like I've been trying for about a year and a half, whereas I only came off the pill six weeks ago. How does that happen?

Sorry to say this everyone, but in my (massively limited) experience, it gets worse: when I was (accidentally, ironically) pg last year the 12 weeks before the miscarriage were the longest of my life. I couldn't really do anything but think about the pregnancy, and time virtually stood still. Surprised I didn't get the sack... Then or now....!

Think I'm ovulating now-ish (due to smiley face yesterday morning, and this morning actually - can that be right?!) and dreading the 2ww already...

Fingers crossed for us all.

x

janey1234 Wed 19-Sep-12 14:47:02

Oh and hi max and lol - glad you found us! x

Rache1S Wed 19-Sep-12 17:08:42

HazleNutt I will make sure AF has arrived before I pop the cork! I tested with a Sainsburys cheapie which reckons it is 87% accurate when used 2 days before AF. I read somewhere that for every attempt to conceive you stand a 20% chance of success so my current chances this month are 13% of 20% = <3% confused I need a wine just thinking about it!

With regard to time going slowly I haven't really noticed this time as I was really busy and have just got back from holiday. I am quite worried about time dragging from now on though while just stuck at work. 28 days seems such an unreasonably long length of time! I'm usually quite organised and plan things and it bothers me that this is something over which I have very little control. It's such a massive thing to do yet it's a bit of a lottery!

ella0 Wed 19-Sep-12 17:53:40

Lolcbcblemonlime It's a relief to know I'm not the only one on here it has affected. I wonder if anyone has let them know.

Rache it's not over until af arrives; some people don't get a BFP until a few days after it's due to arrive.

I find the whole month goes slowly - waiting for ov and then waiting for af. I'm wishing my life away more than ever.

Quodlibet I'm 1DPO now and I'm imagining what could be happening in there!

When we started ttc I bought a fab book that shows what's happening on every day of a pregnancy (from day 1 - 1st day of af). Month 1, I was so excited, reading what was happening every day (especially when I got the spotting). And then af came. So it's now gathering dust until I get my BFP!

Quodlibet Wed 19-Sep-12 22:41:09

Haha. I did explain the process between ovulation and implantation to DP the other day and he was genuinely amazed - though clearly he's forgotten it all as has been asking me if I'm pg at 6DPO. Have tried getting him to read 'Taking Care of Your Fertility' with approximately zero success.

Rache1S that 20% thing is a bugger isn't it? It's like every month, even if you do all the sex at the right time, you're basically just getting to the starting line where you get to roll a dice and hope for a 6.

Lolcbcblemonlime Thu 20-Sep-12 06:39:11

I am with you all on the frustration thing. Up until my mc I wanted a baby but wasn't desperate if you know what I mean. Then fell pg in June and since then it feels like my life has changed. The worst bit is that DH does not want the 'timetable sex' as he calls it so it's even harder! Pretending to be in the mood after a long day at work is well hard sad

HazleNutt Thu 20-Sep-12 08:11:32

Quod try with some "pregnancy for men" books - my DH was highly amused as the one he is reading compared what happens to sperm after orgasm to first 15 minutes of Saving Private Ryan. A carnage!

Lol I feel the same, mindset has definitely changed after my last month's chemical pregnancy.

The failure has such an effect on me personally probably partly due to the fact that I am one of those horrible women you read about in Daily Fail, who postponed having children because they wanted to concentrate on their career (nothing to do with the fact that I only met DH 4 years ago hmm).

But I have indeed been concentrating on the career while I was looking for him and am used to generally getting what I want - just have to work hard enough. So it is really frustrating that I have little to no control over what happens with this egg floating around..Kind of "What do you mean I could not have a baby? Everybody else can! Of course I can!!" grin

janey1234 Thu 20-Sep-12 10:44:53

hazle - you're only 33, you have loads of time smile. And horrible as the 'chemical pregnancy' (hate that phrase) was last month, at least it proves that you both have, urm, working parts...

Anyone know how long after you detect the LH surge that you actually ovulate? Got a hilarious text from my bf yesterday saying (this is honestly a quote) "is it worth shagging tonight?". Who says romance is dead wink

cwtching Thu 20-Sep-12 11:40:52

Still no AF... sorry I am lingering a bit long at the top of the list! Should I test again or is there no point? I hate seing the BFN.

Thanks Hazel it looks lovely. I'm always looking for new holiday destinations and really like slightly 'out of the way' places smile. Love the sound of your OH's book - Saving Private Ryan! V. funny.

I'm totally agreed that waiting is so frustrating and annoying and sad. Particularly when you are used to having so much control over other things in your life.

Lol - you're back on the list!:

Cwtching- 32, Cycle 8, AF due 18th September
LilyJosh - 35, Cycle 2, AF due 21st Sept
Rache1S - 34, Cycle 1, AF due 21st September
Quodlibet - 32, cycle 7ish, due 27 Sept.
Mixology - 32, married, first month TTC, AF due 28 September
Ella0 - 32, married, TTC since July (on cycle 3), AF due 1st Oct
Janey - 37, TTC since Aug, AF due 2nd Oct
Zombies - 32, cycle 1 dodgy cycle, AF possibly due Oct 3.
Bunnygirlie - 32, married, TTC since June, AF due 5th Oct
MaxDaisy - 32, married, TTC since June, AF due 15th Oct
Caboodles - 30, Cycle 1, AF due?
Frantastic1- 34, Cycle?, AF due?
Happylass - 34, Cycle 1, AF due?
HazelNutt - 33, trying for a couple of months, AF due?
Lolcbcb - 38, married, had mc in July. Ttc ever since.
Pipbin - 37, TTC since May 2011, AF due?
Pipersouth - 36, TTC for a few months, AF due?
WhiskeryWoman - 31, Cycle 10, AF due?

janey1234 Thu 20-Sep-12 12:27:58

cwitching - am VERY impressed with your ability to resist POAS! I would definitely have done it seventeen times by now if I were you!

HazleNutt Thu 20-Sep-12 12:37:14

Should probably add my chemical/mc I had in September to the list as well.
AF due - no idea, I'd guess Oct 15?

janey I'll be 34 in 2 weeks. I know, not exactly ancient, but still. When my mum had me, they marked her records as "elderly primigravida". She was 25!

And you should be shagging a few days before OV, as you want to have the sperm present and waiting when you ovulate.

Oh, just googled the spelling of primigravida and you know what a medical dictionary (McGraw-Hill Concise Dictionary of Modern Medicine. © 2002) says?
elderly primigravida
Obstetrics A woman who delivers her first child after age 35; these women are often professionals who delay childbearing to pursue a career

WTAF? In a medical dictionary?

cwtching Thu 20-Sep-12 12:51:32

smile me too normally Janey its just I had a negative on Sunday using FRER - that would be

cwtching Thu 20-Sep-12 12:56:06

oops hit return by accident! I was going to say that was 3 days pre AF due I can't remember exactly but the packet said it was something like 98% accurite 3 days before and have been having lots of AF cramping just no AF yet confused.

Quodlibet Thu 20-Sep-12 13:19:19

Lol at 'is it worth shagging tonight?'! Glad it's not just us who have these unromantic conversations...We have developed a system in our house now where DP is put on Amber Sex Alert which progresses to Red Sex Alert. He then gets informed when Red Sex Alert is over.

Hazle that primigravida thing makes me cross too.

janey1234 Thu 20-Sep-12 14:41:46

Hazle - that's unbelievable. To pursue a career? What on earth?!

elderly primigravida
Obstetrics A woman who delivers her first child after age 35; these women are often professionals who delay childbearing due to previous boyfriends all being totally and utterly useless

HazleNutt Thu 20-Sep-12 14:54:21

grin janey.
I wonder in what way is the reason why we did not have kids in our 20's relevant for a medical dictionary anyway? I doubt the risks are different depending on if the reason was saving for a house/pursuing career/useless boyfriends.

Quodlibet Thu 20-Sep-12 15:11:39

Because, Hazle, it is clearly important to point out that we have brought this on ourselves. It is a self-inflicted medical issue - we should have knuckled down to the childbearing earlier.

janey1234 Thu 20-Sep-12 15:39:59

You are SO right quod. I mean, why are we worrying about careers or saving for houses, or indeed finding a decent man? Surely we should just shut up, get knocked up, and think about fluffy kittens... wink

janey1234 Thu 20-Sep-12 15:47:37

ps slightly depressed about the fact that I actually AM an 'elderly primigravida'

<sobs quietly to self in office about undeniable ancientness>

sad

HazleNutt Thu 20-Sep-12 15:55:59

So what? It's great to be an older not too young mother!

Children of older mothers benefit from improved health and language development. Increasing maternal age was associated with children having fewer hospital admissions and accidents and fewer social and emotional difficulties.

"Basically once the risks around pregnancy and birth of older mothers have been negotiated, older mothers often have greater commitment to parenting, more settled home lives and/or careers, more stable relationships, and more experience generally which all gives them greater confidence" Dr Edward Melhuish, Professor of Human Development at Birkbeck, University of London and one of the authors of the study says.

janey1234 Thu 20-Sep-12 16:23:48

Love that Hazle smile

I think it's just the being referred to as 'elderly' that depresses me - how did your Mum cope with it at 25?!

HazleNutt Thu 20-Sep-12 16:36:07

Well at that time in my original country you were considered an old maid if you were still single at 22..so I guess everybody agreed that 25 was, indeed, ancient. At the same time, in another country my MIL had DH when she was 37. Much more reasonable age, I say.

ZombiesAreClammyDodgers Thu 20-Sep-12 17:44:44

Well I happened to see the entire series of some 16 and Pregnant bloody addictive carcrash telly and watched Teen Mom too and frankly realised how badly I personally would have reacted had I had to have a child too soon I'll react badly if I can never have one too sob

ZombiesAreClammyDodgers Thu 20-Sep-12 18:11:20

prodding my boobs till blue in the face no signs! Wasn't expecting any but hate being proved right!

ZombiesAreClammyDodgers Thu 20-Sep-12 20:14:26

Bloody hell, here we go again
She. Left. It. Till. Too. Late.
Let that be a cautionary tale to the rest of Wimminkind.
FFS.
www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2205875/Its-NOT-fault-I-missed-chance-mother.html

janey1234 Thu 20-Sep-12 21:25:59

Bloody Daily Wail. Worst paper ever.

Ugh.

(have to admit slight bias due to working for a national newspaper myself)

bingeddybongo Thu 20-Sep-12 22:06:38

Hello! I'm very excited to have found the over 30s party smile Please may I join in? I'm 33, been married about two and a half years and we started trying, impromptu, last weekend. And then DH went away for work for a week, haha. So I reckon I'm either going to have conceived on Sunday afternoon or it's going to take 5 years ;)

So: bingeddybongo - 33, Cycle 1, AF due I somewhere around 5th-7th October, depending on when she fancies turning up

ZombiesAreClammyDodgers Thu 20-Sep-12 22:11:25

Welcome bing!

janey1234 Thu 20-Sep-12 23:11:47

Hi Bing <waves>

Loving our over-30's gang smile

ZombiesAreClammyDodgers Thu 20-Sep-12 23:14:16

Yes we antique elderly primagravidas must stick together gringrin loving this thread too!

ZombiesAreClammyDodgers Thu 20-Sep-12 23:14:35

I meant wannabe elderly primagravidas!

Quodlibet Thu 20-Sep-12 23:36:57

For some reason Primigravida sounds like some sort of trifle to me.
Elderberry Primigravida, anyone?

Welcome Bing.
Zombie, leave your poor boobs alone woman!

Rache1S Thu 20-Sep-12 23:57:54

AF just turned up sad Oh well, back to square one and the bottom of the list lol! Best of British to everyone else though, I've got everything crossed for you all. There must be some BFP's for at least a couple of us! grin

Pipbin Fri 21-Sep-12 00:03:01

Well it seems that I have ov'd a week early here.
Therefore AF is due on the 1st October.
Would someone mind adding me on the list as I'm on my phone.

On the subject of being an elderberry pavlova, a friend of mine left school, went to college, then teacher training college, got married and had her first baby at 25 and had elderly first time mother put on her notes. She took great exception and pointed out that she couldn't have done it any quicker if she tried.

bingeddybongo Fri 21-Sep-12 06:21:30

Thanks for the lovely welcome! waves back at everybody

All but one of my friends are elderberry pavlovas so thankfully I don't feel too decrepit. Although I am feeling a bit late to the game! Very glad to have found you all smile

Lolcbcblemonlime Fri 21-Sep-12 07:41:01

Haha loving the old ladies chat!
Well I married the wrong man (as you do) and spent 8 years with him. The thought of kids freaked me out.
I'm now 38, have been with the (right) husband for 5. Have a job that pays close to 50k, a lovely house and healthy savings for the future. I would not have done it differently.
Had a mc in July and was almost made to feel I deserved it as I'm so old!
This Fred is bringing a smile to my face smile

HazleNutt Fri 21-Sep-12 07:51:46

Morning Elderberrys (that's a good title for the next thread when this is full!)

I always wonder what exactly they think I should have done. Have children when I didn't want them, couldn't afford them and with men who didn't want to be parents? Yes sure, that sounds like a smart idea.

HazleNutt Fri 21-Sep-12 07:56:47

new list too, hope I have everybody:

Cwtching- 32, Cycle 8, AF due 18th September
LilyJosh - 35, Cycle 2, AF due 21st Sept
Quodlibet - 32, cycle 7ish, due 27 Sept.
Mixology - 32, married, first month TTC, AF due 28 September
Ella0 - 32, married, TTC since July (on cycle 3), AF due 1st Oct
Pipbin - 37, TTC since May 2011, AF due Oct 1
Janey - 37, TTC since Aug, AF due 2nd Oct
Zombies - 32, cycle 1 dodgy cycle, AF possibly due Oct 3.
Bunnygirlie - 32, married, TTC since June, AF due 5th Oct
bingeddybongo - 33, Cycle 1, AF due I somewhere around 5th-7th October
MaxDaisy - 32, married, TTC since June, AF due 15th Oct
HazelNutt - 33, cycle 3, mc in Sept, AF due Oct 15
Caboodles - 30, Cycle 1, AF due?
Frantastic1- 34, Cycle?, AF due?
Happylass - 34, Cycle 1, AF due?
Lolcbcb - 38, married, had mc in July. Ttc ever since.
Pipersouth - 36, TTC for a few months, AF due?
WhiskeryWoman - 31, Cycle 10, AF due?
Rache1S - 34, Cycle 1, AF due ?

ZombiesAreClammyDodgers Fri 21-Sep-12 08:46:24

hazle yes, so they could have the opportunity to condemn one for being an unfit parent and general floozie grin

HazleNutt Fri 21-Sep-12 09:08:27

Ah sorry rache1 you should be on cycle 2 now I guess?

Very true Zombie - I would certianly be a single mother if I had my kids 10 years ago, considering the men I was dating then. And could read all about how single parent families are so, so bad for children.

Woman's place is in the wrong..

janey1234 Fri 21-Sep-12 11:27:45

Ah quod that's brilliant - although surely an Elderberry Primigravida is some kind of delicious cocktail, a bit like a cucumber martini or something?

Oh lol sorry they made you feel like that - my hospital were amazing when I had mine last year and went to great lengths to stress that having one meant I was no more likely to have another, and didn't mention my age even once.

Rache - sorry to hear that, but fingers crossed for next month for you. I've guessed your AF due date based on a 28 day cycle - correct me if I'm wrong!

Glad to see we're all agreed on this then: we are SELFISH for not having children earlier, and need to understand this is ENTIRELY our fault.

So is this where we are then - slight amend for you Rache.

Cwtching- 32, Cycle 8, AF due 18th September
LilyJosh - 35, Cycle 2, AF due 21st Sept
Quodlibet - 32, cycle 7ish, due 27 Sept.
Mixology - 32, married, first month TTC, AF due 28 September
Ella0 - 32, married, TTC since July (on cycle 3), AF due 1st Oct
Pipbin - 37, TTC since May 2011, AF due Oct 1
Janey - 37, TTC since Aug, AF due 2nd Oct
Zombies - 32, cycle 1 dodgy cycle, AF possibly due Oct 3.
Bunnygirlie - 32, married, TTC since June, AF due 5th Oct
bingeddybongo - 33, Cycle 1, AF due I somewhere around 5th-7th October
MaxDaisy - 32, married, TTC since June, AF due 15th Oct
HazelNutt - 33, cycle 3, mc in Sept, AF due Oct 15
Caboodles - 30, Cycle 1, AF due?
Frantastic1- 34, Cycle?, AF due?
Happylass - 34, Cycle 1, AF due?
Lolcbcb - 38, married, had mc in July. Ttc ever since.
Pipersouth - 36, TTC for a few months, AF due?
WhiskeryWoman - 31, Cycle 10, AF due?
Rache1S - 34, Cycle 2, AF due 19th Oct?

cwtching Fri 21-Sep-12 11:36:19

And here she is, cruel AF. Late enough to give me a sparkle of hope. Had a little cry this morning (--pathetic--). So fed up. I'm now firmly at the bottom of the list - next AF due 19th October (cycle 9).

Hello Bingeddybongo! (I love your name). Sorry about AF Rache

cwtching Fri 21-Sep-12 11:41:13

LilyJosh - 35, Cycle 2, AF due 21st Sept
Quodlibet - 32, cycle 7ish, due 27 Sept.
Mixology - 32, married, first month TTC, AF due 28 September
Ella0 - 32, married, TTC since July (on cycle 3), AF due 1st Oct
Pipbin - 37, TTC since May 2011, AF due Oct 1
Janey - 37, TTC since Aug, AF due 2nd Oct
Zombies - 32, cycle 1 dodgy cycle, AF possibly due Oct 3.
Bunnygirlie - 32, married, TTC since June, AF due 5th Oct
bingeddybongo - 33, Cycle 1, AF due I somewhere around 5th-7th October
MaxDaisy - 32, married, TTC since June, AF due 15th Oct
HazelNutt - 33, cycle 3, mc in Sept, AF due Oct 15
Rache1S - 34, Cycle 2, AF due 19th Oct?
Cwtching - 32, Cycle 9, AF due 19th Oct
Caboodles - 30, Cycle 1, AF due?
Frantastic1- 34, Cycle?, AF due?
Happylass - 34, Cycle 1, AF due?
Lolcbcb - 38, married, had mc in July. Ttc ever since.
Pipersouth - 36, TTC for a few months, AF due?
WhiskeryWoman - 31, Cycle 10, AF due?

janey1234 Fri 21-Sep-12 11:53:19

Oh I'm sorry cwitching sad
It's soooo unnecessarily cruel for AF to be late, it really really is. But have everything crossed for you that cycle number 9 will be your lucky one...

it's certainly lucky in Thailand so maybe it's lucky for you... Fx... x

ps get me posting swanky tinterweb link despite being ancient wink

janey1234 Fri 21-Sep-12 11:54:59

ps not pathetic at all re: crying, I would have been the same.. xx

Pipbin Fri 21-Sep-12 12:18:33

Don't worry about the crying.
I cry every time she shows up. I am inconsolable for the rest of the day.

My random early ov and high temps are giving me some hope this month.

Quodlibet Fri 21-Sep-12 13:14:45

Sorry to hear that cwtching. Don't be hard on yourself for crying - I think the frustration and disappointment is entirely understandable! I managed to ruin a whole romantic day out with my DP last time AF turned up - just could not shake the bad mood. It's shit innit? I am already worrying about strategies to avoid getting in a weepy mess/royal grump in the middle of my holiday.

Can I interest you in a nice Elderberry Primigravida to cheer you up? I'm not sure if it's a trifle or a cocktail but it's got loads of alcohol in it.

I am on 8dpo over here and suddenly realised this morning I still have the best part of a week to go. Blaaaaaardy hell time drags.

HazleNutt Fri 21-Sep-12 13:45:23

sorry cwitch and of course it's only natural to be disappointed.

I think Elderberry Primigravida is something similar to Tiramisu. Just light.. and fresh.. and young..just like we are grin

Rache1S Fri 21-Sep-12 15:39:34

Sorry about your AF Cwtching sad At least we are starting afresh together smile A new cycle is a new chance (I know this is easy for me to say after only 1 attempt - I would imagine the PMA wears a bit thin after several). On the Snakes & Ladders board of TTC we have slid down a snake but at least we can indulge in a nice Elderberry Primigravida on the rocks this weekend smile

Yes thanks janey1234, next AF should be 19th October.

happylass Fri 21-Sep-12 18:14:28

Sorry to everyone who's having a tough time with AF arriving <hugs>
Mine actually turned up today but was delighted to see it as first one since coming off the pill 6 weeks ago. Been feeling a bit in limbo recently and know I probably have a long way to go but now that have had some bleeding at
least feel that something is happening rather than a whole load of nothingness! Am optimistically going to edit my entry on the list based on my pre-pill cycle of 28 days. Have a great weekend all x

LilyJosh - 35, Cycle 2, AF due 21st Sept
Quodlibet - 32, cycle 7ish, due 27 Sept.
Mixology - 32, married, first month TTC, AF due 28 September
Ella0 - 32, married, TTC since July (on cycle 3), AF due 1st Oct
Pipbin - 37, TTC since May 2011, AF due Oct 1
Janey - 37, TTC since Aug, AF due 2nd Oct
Zombies - 32, cycle 1 dodgy cycle, AF possibly due Oct 3.
Bunnygirlie - 32, married, TTC since June, AF due 5th Oct
Happylass - 34, Cycle 1, AF due 5th October
bingeddybongo - 33, Cycle 1, AF due I somewhere around 5th-7th October
MaxDaisy - 32, married, TTC since June, AF due 15th Oct
HazelNutt - 33, cycle 3, mc in Sept, AF due Oct 15
Rache1S - 34, Cycle 2, AF due 19th Oct?
Cwtching - 32, Cycle 9, AF due 19th Oct
Caboodles - 30, Cycle 1, AF due?
Frantastic1- 34, Cycle?, AF due?
Lolcbcb - 38, married, had mc in July. Ttc ever since.
Pipersouth - 36, TTC for a few months, AF due?
WhiskeryWoman - 31, Cycle 10, AF due?

Bunnygirlie Fri 21-Sep-12 18:17:47

Crikey! I leave you all for 2 days and this thread goes mental with 3 more pages and lots of newbies,HELLO (waves like a crazy lady)!
And what's this about elderberry pavlovas lol

We DTD during time my app said to so now I'm on the 2week wait, AF due day travelling back from holiday 2 weeks today so do I drink on holiday or not?!?!?

happylass Fri 21-Sep-12 18:18:50

Sorry completely messed that up! Will try again!

LilyJosh - 35, Cycle 2, AF due 21st Sept
Quodlibet - 32, cycle 7ish, due 27 Sept.
Mixology - 32, married, first month TTC, AF due 28 September
Ella0 - 32, married, TTC since July (on cycle 3), AF due 1st Oct
Pipbin - 37, TTC since May 2011, AF due Oct 1
Janey - 37, TTC since Aug, AF due 2nd Oct
Zombies - 32, cycle 1 dodgy cycle, AF possibly due Oct 3.
Bunnygirlie - 32, married, TTC since June, AF due 5th Oct
bingeddybongo - 33, Cycle 1, AF due I somewhere around 5th-7th October
MaxDaisy - 32, married, TTC since June, AF due 15th Oct
HazelNutt - 33, cycle 3, mc in Sept, AF due Oct 15
Rache1S - 34, Cycle 2, AF due 19th Oct?
Cwtching - 32, Cycle 9, AF due 19th Oct
Happylass - 34, Cycle 1, AF due 19th oct
Caboodles - 30, Cycle 1, AF due?
Frantastic1- 34, Cycle?, AF due?
Lolcbcb - 38, married, had mc in July. Ttc ever since.
Pipersouth - 36, TTC for a few months, AF due?
WhiskeryWoman - 31, Cycle 10, AF due?

ella0 Fri 21-Sep-12 18:30:55

Sorry Rache and Cwtching.

I'm sure we all understand the disappointment when AF arrives. I was really upset last month, and I've not been ttc very long.

Pipbin Fri 21-Sep-12 22:09:00

Seems like I'm spotting a bit already.

Quodlibet Fri 21-Sep-12 23:56:22

Bunny welcome back to the party... Pavlova? My rule is you can TOTALLY drink on 2ww as 1) embryo hasn't technically implanted in this time and 2) otherwise I would go stark staring mad.

Pipbin sorry to hear about spotting, it's a pain - but doesn't mean that this cycle is over. Have a couple of spotter mates who spotted right up to a Bfp.

Bunnygirlie Sat 22-Sep-12 09:37:43

Thanks Quod, I don't think I could get away with not having a few drinks as we're going with friends!
Just had a thought, if we aren't lucky enough to get a September/early oct BFP it's gonna be a right pain coz we won't get scans till after christmas which means no drinks over Christmas, how do you hide that from family and friends!?!?!

HazleNutt Sat 22-Sep-12 12:33:29

Well something is certainly messed up in my cycle after last month, my fertility monitor is acting funny. Not sure I can trust it to show the ov accurately, so guess we'll just have to DTD til AF shows up, just in case.

I've found hiding not drinking quite easy, no need to tell people loudly that you don't want any. Most people won't really notice that your glass is full - just lift and twirl it every now and then. Alcohol free mulled wine is also a good option for Christmas, others can of course get the normal version.

Mixology Sat 22-Sep-12 13:54:08

Hello all - I'm so encouraged by how many of us 30 somethings have joined! While I have not had time to check this board I have somehow managed to obsessively test the last 2 nights - With AF not due until next week I know it's crazy!

The not drinking bit is driving me crazy! Before the TTC I was always up for a drink. I'm not telling anyone about TTC so all of my friends are probably alreading thinking I'm preggers.

ZombiesAreClammyDodgers Sat 22-Sep-12 14:13:48

Stomach achey since yesterday but if I'm honest I think it's just bad digestion and general shitty fitness levels smile
So not holding my breath.
Oh and considering changing my name to Elberberry Pavlova smile

Fay30 Sat 22-Sep-12 14:21:31

Hi all, guessing "the more the merrier" yeah ?
We have been trying for way too long, but never say never.
We are hoping September will be our lucky month !!
We got married on 6th September, two weeks ago.
I got my birthday on 16th September
He got his birthday on 21st September
So here is wishing for a big positive!
Fertile from 22 Sept to 26 Sept, so going to go at it "hammer and tongs"
We should know better by 8th October, here's hoping for clean panties.

Fay

bingeddybongo Sat 22-Sep-12 14:29:20

Thanks, cwtching, and sorry both you and Rach re AF sad Consolatory (virgin) Elderberry Primigravidas all round.

Quodlibet Sat 22-Sep-12 19:19:16

Hazel good advice on the not-drinking front, I will take that on board if/when I get to that stage.

So say you had lots of cheapy tests hanging about in a drawer, what DPO does it become remotely sensible to start testing? Is 11dpo silly?

I have been playing 'twinge bingo' all day. Is that a weird boobache? Is that a twangy womb? I am driving myself slightly loopy.

ZombiesAreClammyDodgers Sat 22-Sep-12 19:55:12

QLB me too!

Bunnygirlie Sun 23-Sep-12 00:18:57

Been out tonight at friends house, had a few drinkies but nothing major. Just as we are all about to leave one of my best mates announces she is pregnant, with her FOURTH!?!?!
As much as I love her, I do think she's nuts and I feel like it's kind of unfair as I want just 1 to start with, absolutely gutted and slightly depressed, big sad face :-(

HazleNutt Sun 23-Sep-12 08:57:45

Hi Fay, of course the more the merrier, add yourself to the list!

I know what you mean Bunny - not so much with my close friends though, who are all Elderberrys and either have 1 child or haven't managed to have any. But whenever I see some families out and about where parents only fight and scream at their kids (or read some horror stories of neglected kids), then I do wonder how it's fair that those people have DC and we don't.

But life's not fair, is it..

Lilyjosh Sun 23-Sep-12 09:11:33

Still stuck at the top of the list, 2 bfn's, wishing af would get here so we can get on with the next cycle.

Been catching up on all your posts - 20% chance of conceiving each month- depressing!! All my friends have conceived in the first few month of trying, one accidentally with one dtd in a 4 month period and then 1st month FTC for her 2nd.

Although I don't feel old at 35 one of one of my friends children is now 10! Been waiting for the right man for years!!

Find it really frustrating you just don't know what's going on inside, do you just need to be patient or could something be wrong etc

bunny find it really hard a) not drinking and b) hiding not drinking - feel like everyone is watching me (known for enjoying a drink). Bridesmaid has just announced she is pregnant - she was thinking of trying this year but hadn't started- got pregnant by accident using the withdrawal method!!!! Had dreams of us being pregnant together, happy for her she's lovely, but when I really want it too feel sad

Quodlibet Sun 23-Sep-12 11:21:07

That can be hard (the other people getting pg thing). Weirdly not that many of my close female friends have kids yet (though most of DP's do). When my younger sister got pg last year accidentally i got a lot of misplaced sympathy which made me a bit cross - actually I was just really pleased for her and excited about being an auntie! I've got one friend who is now also TTC, and I'm sure whoever get pg first, the other will be really pleased and a tiny bit jealous! I don't want to bemoan my lot though - I have two other close friends my age who aren't in relationships and I know have pangs of envy for those of who are and a real fear of getting left on the shelf. I suppose all I am saying is it is hard to keep it all in perspective and not compare, isnt it?

Zombie how's your twinge bingo today?

Lolcbcblemonlime Sun 23-Sep-12 11:30:55

Had bfn this morning. Still no af, now one day late. Very confusing and frustrating?
Is anyone else in limbo land with me?
I might be earlier than I think as I know cycle can become longer after mc. Still a tiny bit of hope ...

Quodlibet Sun 23-Sep-12 13:23:46

Hold out Lol! You're still in the game!

HazleNutt Sun 23-Sep-12 13:23:55

what tests are you using Lol, any of the early ones? Many regular ones are not that sensitive.

Just discovered something funny here - bought some pre-natal vitamins from the states that have 800 mcg folic acid that they claim is 100% of the RDA. And have some local (French) ones that have 400, but claim it to be 200% of RDA. So French women need 4 times less folic acid when TTC? Ok, an average French woman is probably smaller than a US one, but not 4 times smaller. How about the UK ones, what's the folic acid dosage?

Lolcbcblemonlime Sun 23-Sep-12 13:28:51

Hi hazle. Think uk folic is 400.
I bought some nhs type tests from amazon. I've no idea how sensitive they are. Didn't really like the actual test. Still have 4 left and also have cb at home but don't want to waste it.
Do u live in Paris? How glamorous

HazleNutt Sun 23-Sep-12 13:47:20

No, not anywhere near Paris, I live in Alsace. Would not call it glamourous, but I do like it here.

Pipersouth Sun 23-Sep-12 15:08:47

Hi Everyone sorry had to dip back out again after finding you all but dh was worried I would get fixated about it all as if that hadn't happened already! Only on Cycle 3 with AF due around 12th Oct(ish) with fingers crossed for me and everyone else it is nice not be alone with the worries and hopes :-)

Rache1S Sun 23-Sep-12 19:23:33

Pipersouth my DH thinks that these forums are completely cuckoo and frequented only by cuckoo women who are obsessed with getting pregnant (obviously myself included). I have told him I will respectfully take his views on board while at the same time completely ignoring them. grin What would a man know? The Human race would have been extinct ages ago if they had to get pregnant. Of course we're going to get "fixated by it all," it's a massive life-changing event grin

Bunnygirlie Sun 23-Sep-12 19:49:26

I think its better to rant and get cyber support from people in the same situation than just sit and dwell or stress out your other half!

And is it me or is EVERYBODY else around PG !!!!!

ella0 Sun 23-Sep-12 19:59:41

My husband also thinks it would be better for me to stop reading forums! I can see where he's coming from, but I'm not going to.

bunnygirlie around 8 women from my work have given birth in the last 6 months! I feel left out!

Pipbin Sun 23-Sep-12 20:19:06

I think if I didn't have the support from theses forums over that past year and a bit I would have good loopy.

Yes everyone is either pregnant or has just had a baby.

Rache1S Sun 23-Sep-12 20:22:12

bunnygirlie I am tempted to start talking to DH about CM etc. until he begs me to go back to the forums. grin I agree that it relieves the pressure so much to know that others are in the same boat.

And yes everybody else is PG! My Sis has her 12 week scan tomorrow, my Sis-in-Law gave birth a few weeks ago. Even my mate from work who didn't ever want children has managed to get caught by accident and is 20 weeks confused It will soon be our turn smile

Pipersouth Sun 23-Sep-12 21:35:07

I found out today that one of my best childhood friends who is same age as me (36) is going to become a Grandmother as her 20 year daughter is pg! So its everyone and their daughters being pregnant :-(

Bunnygirlie Sun 23-Sep-12 22:45:22

A Granny at 36, oh Crikey! :-o

Pipbin Sun 23-Sep-12 23:41:00

My cousin was a grandmother at 36, which in turn made her mother a great-grandmother at 52!

Fay30 Mon 24-Sep-12 02:17:48

Hang in there every one, our turns must come, just need to keep all them positive thoughts high on the list.

A general question,,,,,
at round about what age, would you think, it's time to stop trying naturally, and see if the hospitals can help mother nature along?
I just turned 31 last week, and I can't help feeling that the time is passing by, faster than I want it to.
I liked being "30" I felt good, but now, another year on, and suddenly, 31 sounds old to me, and I need to start making more plans to get pregnant.
Talking to DH, he said we should wait no longer than the end of this year, as he is also getting older, and he want to run around and play football, should we have a DS, and to also see our DD married, should we have girl.
He is quite a bit older than me, and I understand him very well.

Fay.

ZombiesAreClammyDodgers Mon 24-Sep-12 06:01:29

Everyone and their neighbour (or daughter!) IS up the duff!
To all those whose DHs or DPs think these forums are full of obsessed women, I say there's nothing wrong with a little obsession. I've reached 32 without having a child and I daresay I've done a good job of prioritising work and everything else in life before this so it's my time now. Plus the biological imperative to reproduce is very strong. So many animals in the animal world die after procreating- their only focus in life being to propagate their species. Not saying we are the same or should be, but if you feel the urge, it's because there is a primeval reason for it.
QLB since most of my "symptoms" could be put down to general exhaustion, and I had a good lie on on Saturday, I'm sorry to report there are no twangy uteri (?) smile here anymore.

HazleNutt Mon 24-Sep-12 08:24:13

Fay, I would say it's not so much about the age but how long you have been trying. If it's been a year and nothing happens, I would certainly get checked out.

Zombies, my DH is now obsessed, keeps reading the pregnancy book and telling me what is going to happen and what I am supposed to do and not to do. I can already tell that he will be a total PFB parent..

janey1234 Mon 24-Sep-12 11:20:57

Fay - according to the NHS you should go (ie they will bother to refer you) if you're over 30 and have been trying for more than a year. If you're 35 or over you should apparently go if you've been trying for more than six months. Both my cousin who's a GP and my friend who's just been referred have confirmed this is their policy I think...

Strangely I genuinely feel like I have absolutely no hope of being pg this month for some reason. I've no idea why but I just don't feel it?! No symptom spotting at all, and just feel it wasn't my month, despite doing the deed at the right time this month (I think). I wonder why that is?

And yes, every other bugger is pg. Great. wink

ella0 Mon 24-Sep-12 17:50:10

Fay I'm with the others - I'd wait a year (I'm 32).

I'm feeling positive for this month. We've done everything we could.

Pipbin Mon 24-Sep-12 18:24:36

So I find out a girl at work is pregnant then go on Facebook to find tgat another is a day past her due date and another friend has posted the pictures of the nursery for number two.

Grrrr

Quodlibet Mon 24-Sep-12 18:45:13

So BFN at 11dpo on an Internet cheeeepy for me today - its managed to burst my optimistic bubble somewhat, I've been the opposite of you Janey and feeling uncharacteristically hopeful this month.

Off on hols tmw - weather looking pretty ropey unfortunately. Ah well, it'll be nice to spend some time with DP at least, and drink lots of nice wine /eat oysters if I am not up the duff.

janey1234 Mon 24-Sep-12 20:07:07

Silly question for you quod, but how do you know you're 11 DPO? Am I bring an idiot?!

I really do hope you are wrong with your feeling for this month sad but you're right - many oysters and much wine if you're not pg! Where are you off to on holiday?

Pipbin Mon 24-Sep-12 20:12:11

I'm guessing through temping or using a fertility monitor like the cbfm.

ella0 Mon 24-Sep-12 21:16:40

janey I used the clear blue digital ovulation sticks for the first time this month. I ovulated the day after I got a smiley face (I felt it this month).

Quodlibet Mon 24-Sep-12 21:19:02

Double-pronged attack of charting and cheap OPK sticks Janey! I have a textbook chart this month which is very unlike me - ov is very clearly 11 days ago.

We are off to the south of France tmw for a week - looking forward to a little adventure with DP, even if it is rainy.

Lilyjosh Mon 24-Sep-12 22:33:12

Bottom of the list for me, af now due 24th October, cycle 3, can't seem to copy and paste the list on
iPad!

Bunnygirlie Mon 24-Sep-12 23:08:35

Fay, know how you feel, my hubby is 40 next year, I'm 32 so don't wanna hang about. I saw my doc recently and I might have added a few months to how long we've been trying (bad me) and she wants to see me back in Jan if not PG as understands we don't wanna be too old, also it took my parents 5+ years to get me and I don't feel i have that time :-(

Off to rainy Spain on thurs, nice to have week away but due AF day we fly back if my app is correct, but at least it will be a distraction whilst waiting for that evil pixie AF :-)

Lolcbcblemonlime Tue 25-Sep-12 08:51:15

Morning girls. Been feeling pretty shite after af turned up yesterday.
Think I'm going to use the rest of my cheap opk this month and if no luck will but the cb ov sticks. Will also have to have a serious chat with DH regarding mid week sex when it's ov time.
This whole thing is wearing me down sad

HazleNutt Tue 25-Sep-12 09:13:49

Oh sorry Lol sad

janey1234 Tue 25-Sep-12 09:54:00

I'm sorry too lol sad

I bought my clear blue ones from amazon as they were pretty cheap there vs boots, if you wanted to give them a try x

ZombiesAreClammyDodgers Tue 25-Sep-12 10:30:24

Sorry to hear that lol sad

Pregnancy tests aren't cheap are they? Bloody hell- at least £3.50 apiece. Should buy shares in First Response..

ZombiesAreClammyDodgers Tue 25-Sep-12 11:05:54

Can't stop bloody symptom spotting. Twangy uterus? More like indigestion!

Rache1S Tue 25-Sep-12 11:36:30

What are everyone's thoughts on going back to work post-baby (I realise this is jumping the gun a bit!) versus being a stay-at-home Mum?

I enjoy my job and have worked hard to build a career which I feel reluctant to give up, but I also have issues at the thought of putting our baby in full-time child care when he/she is very young, both for the wellbeing of our baby and for the things which I would miss out on in his/her development.
Part-time would not really work in my job (although I know my employer would have to try to accommodate it if I requested it,) and there is no question of DH staying at home with baby as he earns far more than me.

I'm not even PG yet so this will not rear it's head for a while, but it's in the back of my mind and I wondered what everyone else is planning to do?

ZombiesAreClammyDodgers Tue 25-Sep-12 11:46:28

Due to numerous reasons I will have no option but to continue to work full time after (if?) I have a child. So I would take the full paid maternity leave- four months in my case- and maybe see if I could get a month more but I'm afraid it's a nursery after that...

ZombiesAreClammyDodgers Tue 25-Sep-12 11:50:56

Must Resist Urge to POAS too soon!

HazleNutt Tue 25-Sep-12 12:17:22

Of course it's only reasonable to think about and discuss child care issues before you decide to have one.
I will continue working - worked too hard to get to this position, and am also the main earner. For DH to make the same money, he would have to go contracting abroad working crazy hours, whereas I work 10 minutes from home, so it's reasonable for me to keep working. Part time is not an option either.
Luckily DH has his own company and can work from home, so he would be the WAHD. (We can comfortably live on my salary only, so he could work when the baby is small just to keep his cv and contacts up to date). I would guess we will have to find a part time nanny too, for times when DH has to go see customers or just needs time to actually work.

Rache1S Tue 25-Sep-12 13:10:52

Zombies Wow, you will deserve a medal for juggling a 4 month old baby and a full-time job. I hope DP/H will be giving you a big hand? And there's no 'if' about it - we will all get there. I was unfortunate enough to see some of Jeremy Kyle this morning and if those inbreds can get PG anybody can! grin

HazleNutt You sound like you are in an ideal position to carry on working. smile I would not need to work for financial reasons but I suspect I may need to work for reasons relating to keeping sane. I really don't like the idea of being a kept woman!

janey1234 Tue 25-Sep-12 13:46:26

Rache - like hazle I would have no choice. My bf is quite a lot younger than me, and whilst he has a very good job for his age (haha makes him sound like a teenager - he is 29!), I'm still the main earner. So back to work for me it would be. I'd hope to be able to take up to a full year off though - thankfully I bought a property at 23 so was just about on the ladder before all the massive increases, and as such we can afford the mortgage for our house on just one wage for a short while. Even without the financial issue, I think I would want to go back after a while; my best friend could have stayed at home after her DD but chose to go back (part time admittedly) as she missed it, and I've been much more career focused over the years than her... So can completely understand why you'd want to go back.

Is everyone, like me, totally wanting to get pg, and thinking ahead to working/childcare/maternity leave etc, but handily blanking out the whole childbirth part of the timeline?!

xx

HazleNutt Tue 25-Sep-12 13:46:26

Oh and maternity leave here is 3 months only. 3 months! I'm from a country where we have not just maternity, but parental leave and it's 3 years. Bit of a culture shock, let me tell you.

I'm pretty sure it will be absolutely horrible to go to work leaving a tiny 3-month old home. But rather this than sending DH out so we would not see him for weeks and weeks..(especially considering that we also have a herd of pets that need attention).

HazleNutt Tue 25-Sep-12 13:51:09

janey I indeed prefer not to think about that part in detail grin
I figure though that while it's certainly no walk in the park, most women nowadays manage, I don't see any reason why I shouldn't be able to. Luckily the health care here is fabulous and they don't have any ideas about telling women to "embrace the pain" to save money on epidurals.

Rache1S Tue 25-Sep-12 14:46:59

The birth part does not even begin to register in my baby plans, i'm refusing to acknowledge it. If it did I think I would stop trying! I was present at an (allegedly straightforward) birth 7 years ago and the nightmares have only just stopped. It was like a scene from Alien shock

ZombiesAreClammyDodgers Tue 25-Sep-12 16:11:49

I'm not too worried about the birth bit.. yet!
Child care and financials and how I will manage work alongside are my main worries if I'm honest.
And the "what if something goes wrong with the pregnancy/ foetus" thing.

ZombiesAreClammyDodgers Tue 25-Sep-12 16:13:52

Thanks rache - you see all these feckless people with kids and you do think- surely I could be a good parent!
I am sure it will be perfectly horrendous but I don't think my ideal scenario of 8 months off is going to work..

HazleNutt Tue 25-Sep-12 16:26:01

Can I just complain that it's only 25th of September! How come? it will be ages, ages until I have any reason to even start symptom spottig and POASing..

ella0 Tue 25-Sep-12 17:23:10

Sorry lol and lily.

We always thought that I would have to carry on working, but we've looked into it and I would be worse off if I worked! We don't have any family nearby to help out, and the ridiculous nursery fees here cancel out what I earn. We're not entitled to any help no matter what I do. So it doesn't make sense for me to carry on working (I don't love my job, so I wouldn't miss it).

Lolcbcblemonlime Tue 25-Sep-12 19:07:07

Evening and thanks for all the messages and hugs. I've just had a lovely dinner and beer and not thought about af for the whole day.
I too would go back to work full time after prob a year off. Love job and have good career and am higher earner. I don't think about labour or id give this whole thing up and get a puppy smile

HazleNutt Tue 25-Sep-12 19:17:49

you should get a puppy anyway, it's good for kids to grow up with animals. Less allergies as well.

jksfii Tue 25-Sep-12 19:32:02

Hi, I'm on my first proper month of trying. I'm 41 (yikes!) and not tried for children before. I know my chances are lower than if I was younger, but I've been with my partner for over 4 years and we would love to have a baby. I see some of you mentioned symptoms and was wondering what the very early symptoms are? smile

Lolcbcblemonlime Tue 25-Sep-12 19:55:09

Hi and welcome! We make up all sorts of symptoms to be honest! We are all as bad as each other! What have u got?smile
Hazle a puppy is another battle. DH into cats so I've let that one rest for the moment. The truth is that he is scared of having kids due to health issues so we kind of need to do one at a time!

jksfii Tue 25-Sep-12 20:00:50

Hi, well it's only been a few days since I ovulated and did the deed, so any symptoms are probably in my head! Just feel crampy like a mild period pain.

HazleNutt Tue 25-Sep-12 20:43:00

Lol, I have 2 dogs and 3 cats, no reason you can't have both, if DH is more of a cat person. but sure, one thing at the time if there are other issues.

jksfii, yes probably, but it's totally normal. I think we all here are guilty of imagining boob soreness and morning sickness.

Pipersouth Tue 25-Sep-12 21:03:14

Does anyone else do mental pep talks to encourage the swimmers or the eggs!!! I must be going a little teeny bit nuts without even realising I was on the slippery slope oh dear anyone else on the slope?

Rache1S Tue 25-Sep-12 21:06:22

I have a 9 week old puppy and he's such hard work. I really can't imagine a baby being any harder than he currently is! Soooo cute though smile

Pipbin Tue 25-Sep-12 21:39:10

Saw the scans of the lady at work who announced her pregnancy yesterday.
One of the other women I work with who knows I am trying came to me later to ask if I was ok.
This ended with a long conversation about it all.
Turns out that the woman who is pg has been trying for about 2 years.
Which really just goes to show that we think people get pg by sniffing their DHs boxers but it's not always as easy as that. Actually you don't know how many failed attempts there have been.

Anyway, can you lovely ladies have a look at my chart.
I think that I ovd on CD 14, if I take out the first +ive OPK then FF thinks it's CD 15. Have a look here and see what you think

Bunnygirlie Tue 25-Sep-12 22:46:00

Her girls! Saw my friend today with her 7 week old and everyone was asking how the birth was, I have to say that her description along with horror story of depression was horrid but still hasn't put me off although our other friend due in decembers face was a picture lol

I have one sore boob, does that count? It's a little tender to lie on chest at night :-s

ZombiesAreClammyDodgers Wed 26-Sep-12 02:16:07

Wow pipbin that is an impressive chart! I wouldn't be able to interpret it to save my life though. So the spike happens after OVing then?
have stopped temping myself.

jksfii Wed 26-Sep-12 11:32:39

Pipersouth, that is funny I thought I was the only one picturing pink sperm with smiley faces swimming merrily along to my egg!

ZombiesAreClammyDodgers Wed 26-Sep-12 12:08:17

BFN today but frankly I don't even know if I OVd!

HazleNutt Wed 26-Sep-12 12:49:38

Zombies according to the list your AF is not even due for a week? Too early to test I would think, so don't take the BFN too seriously.

My Persona monitor has been funny this month so I have no idea either what's going on and when to expect AF, very frustrating.

janey1234 Wed 26-Sep-12 15:03:38

Zombies - according to the last list I can find, we're due on at about the same time. I hadn't even thought about testing yet - and happily just went out for lunch with a colleague and had sushi and wine. Is that terrible?! For some reason am utterly convinced it won't be good news for me this month, maybe that's why I've not considered it?

Hazle - yours is bound to be all over the place this month I'd imagine. I was still testing positive on a pregnancy test 4 weeks after my mc (admittedly at 12 weeks) so I really wouldn't worry if this cycle is slightly odd. Hormones do strange things to your body!

jks - welcome! <waves like a loon> In terms of symptom spotting we all LOVE a bit of that, I had every symptom going last month. Hoping yours are actual symptoms though, not some mad figment of your imagination like mine were! Fingers crossed for you. Oh, and don't worry about age. We're mostly elderberry pavlovas here smile

pipbin - thoroughly impressed with your charting. No idea what any of it means though sorry blush

bingeddybongo Wed 26-Sep-12 18:16:43

Evening Elderberries!

I don't know if any of you will be able to help with this but I'll ask anyway smile I've done a bit of wild symptom spotting this week, despite the fact that this is my first cycle and we only started trying on 8th and I've probably only just ovulated. But it sounds like I'm in good company for wild symptom spotting grin Anyway, on top of the really peculiar cramps and stomach pains (neither at all like the ones I get pre-AF) and lower backache I now have this really odd burning sensation across my pelvis for 24 hours. It feels really odd. I've just had a google which was no help at all; I don't think it's a UTI because for me at least they've always started in the peeing zone. Does anybody have any idea what it might be, please?!!

I do hope I'm not allergic to my husband's unsheathed dongle confused

Bing

jksfii Wed 26-Sep-12 18:32:34

Hi Janey1234 thanks for the encouragement. smile

ZombiesAreClammyDodgers Wed 26-Sep-12 19:46:32

I know I failed the Resist POAS challenge! sad
Will check again in 7 days. It's so bloody frustrating because of the stupid cycle length. It's a three week wait at least!

ZombiesAreClammyDodgers Wed 26-Sep-12 19:47:19

bingeddybongo that does sound promising vicarious symptom spotting

bingeddybongo Wed 26-Sep-12 20:07:18

Hahaha thanks Zombies ;) I'm able to write off the cramps and backache as wishful thinking (or lactose intolerance and sitting badly at my desk) and can probably bring on another couple of symptoms if I focus hard enough, but I'm genuinely confused about the burning thing. I'm mainly hoping it's not an infection but the internet doesn't seem to want to tell me much about burning in that zone apart from when it occurs in late pregnancy... and I definitely don't think I'm there!

bingeddybongo Wed 26-Sep-12 20:08:14

p.s. I can't believe I said "unsheathed". Or "dongle", for that matter.

ZombiesAreClammyDodgers Wed 26-Sep-12 20:11:05

janey have been having sushi and wine too! It isn't happening till I know it's happening so I'm a free agent. That's the view I'm taking grin

HazleNutt Wed 26-Sep-12 20:16:55

Japanese women have kids and certainly won't give up sushi.

ZombiesAreClammyDodgers Wed 26-Sep-12 20:23:30

WTAF is happening! Had EWCM yesterday and today.

Lolcbcblemonlime Wed 26-Sep-12 20:24:08

Lol hazle I was thinking exactly that how other day regarding sushi!!!
Today I saw a girl on the street who must have been at least 5/6 months pregnant smoking a big fat cigarette. That made me so angry!
Life is unfair sometimes!

Pipbin Wed 26-Sep-12 20:36:16

I had to sit through a presentation about Foetal Alcohol Spectrum Disorder. How woman can carry on drinking after they know they are pg is beyond me.

ella0 Wed 26-Sep-12 20:39:03

bing I've had burning in the lower abdomen/ pelvis too, yesterday and the day before. I posted about it a few pages back! Not painful but a really strange sensation. I'm normal going to the loo so I don't think it's an infection. I googled it and it can be a symptom of early pregnancy as I found sites where people had it and then got a BFP (but then everything appears to be a symptom of pregnancy!). I haven't had it today though and my cramp feelings have stopped too. I'm 8dpo today.

bingeddybongo Wed 26-Sep-12 21:09:37

Oh thank you so much for your response ella, that's made me feel a ton better hearing it sounds like it's a normal thing, whatever it turns out to be. It's really bloody uncomfortable, almost painful, so I'm even happier to hear it goes away! It seems to be worse when I'm sitting so I suppose I'll have to watch telly standing up this evening ;) In the meantime, I will keep my fingers crossed for you smile

ella0 Wed 26-Sep-12 21:35:49

Thank you smile . Fingers crossed for you too smile . This month is the first time I've experienced it but then I've experienced something new each month since ttc (this is my third month).

Bunnygirlie Wed 26-Sep-12 21:57:35

Right ladies, off on my holibobs tomorrow so see you all on the other side :-)

janey1234 Wed 26-Sep-12 22:27:34

Have an amazing time bunny! smile

ZombiesAreClammyDodgers Thu 27-Sep-12 00:09:01

janey when are you planning to POAS?

bingeddybongo Thu 27-Sep-12 06:11:26

Thanks, ella, and happy holibobs, bunny! smile

Lolcbcblemonlime Thu 27-Sep-12 07:59:46

So.... Any poas action today?
I'm on cd4 so planning a weekend shag just to take the pressure off ttc. Not seen DH since tue so had time to get over my bad mood which is good news!

Bunnygirlie Thu 27-Sep-12 10:09:50

Thanks ladies, AF due day we fly back so who knows my mood on my return ;-)

Good luck, hope to have some good news from some of you soon x

HazleNutt Thu 27-Sep-12 11:33:26

I think it might be OV time. Or not. The time goes sooooo sloooowly. Want to start POASing already..

Am also convinced that we get sore boobs every month because we keep grabbing them and checking for soreness. or is it just me?

ZombiesAreClammyDodgers Thu 27-Sep-12 12:27:44

hazle that's what I've been thinking too re the boobs. Also, think I'm more aware now of tummy twinges than I've ever been clearly could improve my eating habits

ZombiesAreClammyDodgers Thu 27-Sep-12 12:28:32

Ooh wonder how many of us will have BFPs by the time we reach a 1000 posts on this thread!

janey1234 Thu 27-Sep-12 13:08:21

zombies - I'm not planning to POAS until I'm due on - 2nd October. Is that madness? Could it really be detected earlier? I'm abroad this weekend, which hopefully should make it easier to not think about it, fingers crossed that's the case. Then if there's nothing Tuesday morning I will POAS.

or alternatively i will buy some when in Ireland and POAS several times over the weekend

HazleNutt Thu 27-Sep-12 13:24:30

Janey First Response should show a nice BFP already 6 days before the expected period.

janey1234 Thu 27-Sep-12 17:59:41

But the earlier you test, the more likely you are to get a false BFN? I'm honestly going to try to wait until Monday... I say try as I'm not sure I will succeed! blush

ZombiesAreClammyDodgers Thu 27-Sep-12 18:20:56

stupidly hopeful so false BFNs happen??

HazleNutt Thu 27-Sep-12 19:44:45

oh yes, false BFNs are very common - false BFPs on the other hand rarely happen. If it's negative, it can mean there's not enough hormones and it's just too early for the test to pick it up, especially if you test before or around AF time.

JugglingWithPossibilities Thu 27-Sep-12 19:59:24

A word of encouragement - we were trying for a year for DD ( when I got pregnant they told me my uterus was "retroverted") I wish they'd told me whilst TTC as makes conceiving more difficult apparently.
Don't worry if sex is a bit functional for a while ...
My two are now 13 and 10 - it can happen !

Pipbin Thu 27-Sep-12 20:43:51

Well I have decided not to POAS until Sunday but I'm getting pre AF vibes.
However, except for a tiny bit of on 2 DPO, no spotting so far an I'm 8/9 DPO.

JugglingWithPossibilities Thu 27-Sep-12 21:00:44

I felt pregnant lots of months whilst TTC, and had several late periods too.
But maybe I was pregnant more times than I thought ? Could be from what I've read ? If you think that could have been so for you too I hope you'll take that as encouraging ... Best of luck to all x

bingeddybongo Thu 27-Sep-12 21:24:51

I'm going to POAS on Sunday as well, Pipbin. Sticks at dawn?

Pipbin Thu 27-Sep-12 21:39:42

Assuming the evil witch hasn't turned up then I guess so!

janey1234 Fri 28-Sep-12 09:22:02

Thanks juggling for the encouragement! And fingers crossed for those of you POAS on Sunday... I'm going to wait until Tuesday, unless AF has turned up by then!
In the meantime I'm off to Ireland for the weekend, and I shall be eating oysters! wink

Bunnygirlie Fri 28-Sep-12 15:56:12

Totally pissed off! So much that I had to log on to share lol. 2nd day of holiday and that evil bastard AF has arrived a full week earlier that my stooopid app predicted! Puts quite a dent in my holiday mood although I guess I can now have as many cocktails as I bloody well like :-) aaaaaaaaaagh

janey1234 Fri 28-Sep-12 16:29:19

Oh no bunny that totally sucks. How bloody annoying whilst you're on holiday too. The only vaguely positive thing I can say is that whilst it's rotten it hasn't worked this time, in a funny way at least AF coming sooner means you can get on with trying again sooner?
I know it's easy to say but try not to let it ruin your holiday x

HazleNutt Fri 28-Sep-12 16:34:00

oh, so sorry Bunny - but enjoy the cocktails, hopefully next month you won't be able to any more wink

Pipbin Fri 28-Sep-12 19:01:10

Sorry to hear that Bunny. That evil bitch knows how to pick her times doesn't she.

Pipbin Sat 29-Sep-12 11:43:43

Looks like I might be out before I get a chance to POAS.
Spotting has begun.

HazleNutt Sat 29-Sep-12 12:26:08

could be implementation?

ZombiesAreClammyDodgers Sat 29-Sep-12 12:38:37

This is like biological roulette angry

HazleNutt Sat 29-Sep-12 12:52:36

what did I just write? grin Implantation, I mean implantation!

Pipbin Sat 29-Sep-12 12:56:30

Could be Hazle. I'm not sure how many DPO I am, either 10, 11 or 12.
Its the thin brown type spotting that I usually get before AF rears her ugly head.
I suspect its AF on her way to be honest.

Pipbin Sat 29-Sep-12 13:43:01

Proper red spotting now.
Looks like I'm out.

Might test tomorrow just to be sure, I get free tests from Clearblue anyway as I'm doing the CBFM trial.

Lolcbcblemonlime Sat 29-Sep-12 14:24:54

Sorry af got two of you again!
I've nothing to report and am desperately trying not to obsess. Af just finished so shag week upcoming next.

HazleNutt Sat 29-Sep-12 14:58:36

Sorry to hear. Nothing to report here either except that DH has managed to catch a cold and complains about being tired. Oh well, he just has to man up, it's the right time.

Pipbin Sat 29-Sep-12 16:21:41

I was upset today, as you can imagine, and DH and I have come to the agreement that he just has to get the job done as often as possible and not worry about me 'arriving', if you know what I mean.

Lolcbcblemonlime Sat 29-Sep-12 16:26:57

Oh pip I know the pain! DH would never agree to that which makes it more tricky! Faking it is not my thing. He will not have sex for baby making only so I need to convince him I'm extra horny!!!

Rache1S Sat 29-Sep-12 18:56:42

Hi all, I haven't logged on for a while as I am in that totally shit post-AF pre-O wilderness where time moves in slow motion. Commiserations to those for whom AF has paid an unwelcome visit (especially Bunnygirlie - total bummer on holiday) and good luck to those getting ready to POAS - I have everything crossed for you! smile
Three of my girlfriends who have just come back from a group holiday have all announced that they are now officially in the TTC club - OMG I have unwittingly found myself in a TTC race with my friends. Pressure on!! shock

Pipbin Sat 29-Sep-12 20:30:51

I hate post AF pre OV. Time is an illusion, pre ov doubley so.

ZombiesAreClammyDodgers Sat 29-Sep-12 23:15:19

It's all such a lesson in patience. Life seems a darn lesson in patience lately.
Sorry to hear about the AFs guys. But as hazle says, in a funny way, at least it means OVing is that much closer smile

ZombiesAreClammyDodgers Sat 29-Sep-12 23:15:51

Sorry that was janey.

Lolcbcblemonlime Sat 29-Sep-12 23:18:36

I hate this whole thing too. In fact if I could I would pop a toddler! They are so much more fun than babies!
I'm on cd6 and trying to get into the mood for sex. Might have first go tomorrow just to prove to myself that its not all about ttc!

ZombiesAreClammyDodgers Sun 30-Sep-12 02:38:33

I wouldn't skip to the toddler stage - I think by then they're past the "bundle up and take anywhere" stage so I would want to enjoy the joys of the first stage a bit smile

Pipbin Sun 30-Sep-12 08:44:11

Spotting more heavily now, but it's still not AF proper so I POAS.
As I'm doing the ClearBlue trial I get their Easy test free, so I used one of those. Don't buy them ladies. It came up with a cross, a faint one but it was there, before vanishing. Really got my hopes up.

So bfn for me Ella what about you?

HazleNutt Sun 30-Sep-12 09:04:23

Pipbin, how long was it there? They do vanish after a while.

I have not had the OV symbol on my Persona monitor this month - doesn't mean there has not been one, or isn't one, sometimes it just does not show. Annoying though.

ZombiesAreClammyDodgers Sun 30-Sep-12 09:15:59

Dreamt AF was in full force. Don't want to POAS again. I know what the answer will be!

ZombiesAreClammyDodgers Sun 30-Sep-12 09:17:29

Sorry to hear that pipbin. Must have been horrible.

caboodles Sun 30-Sep-12 09:47:19

Hello ladies, warning, long post:

I lurk most days but haven't posted here for a while... need a second opinion! This is my first month off the pill and if my cycle has gone straight back to normal, AF should be due today or tomorrow. But last wk, from Weds morning onwards I was getting period cramps and brown spotting, and I've been waiting and waiting for AF to appear in full force... but the cramps eased off yesterday and still nothing. I don't normally (if I cast my mind back to the olden days, pre-pill) have 5 days of PMS, usually only 1 or 2. And usually I get very bad cramps, they used to keep me awake - it's why I went on the pill originally. These were mild. Do you think this is a strange response to coming off the pill or a sign I might be pregnant? And is it the case you have to wait until 3 days after AF is due before POAS? I've never done this before... eek confused

One more question - do you normally tell your DP before you POAS? Because although this is a baby we both want, I feel a bit funny telling my DP and causing him to poo his pants getting his hopes up unnecessarily. If I do a test, I kind of want to do it on my own, is that wierd?

Pipbin Sun 30-Sep-12 10:49:16

The line was there for less than a minute. Vanished not long after the control line in the second window appeared.
If AF hasn't turned up by the middle of next week then. I'll test again.

Bunnygirlie Sun 30-Sep-12 11:59:26

Thanks for sympathy ladies, it was not what I wanted especially not on holiday! Hubby says it'll happen one day, I just don't wanna wait too long! It feels like we've been trying for ages but counting it up it's only really been 4 times I've been gutted to see AF which I know isn't long at all but during that 4 months I've had one friend have her second baby, 1 announce she's having her first at Christmas and another tell me she'd having her fourth!!! Grrrr

Caboodles - no I don't tell my other half when POAS as don't want two of us to be gutted!

Good luck all those POAS soon!

Quick question, anybody use any special lube? We need to use something but the one we use says may slow down the wrigglers so I was tempted to buy conceive plus I think it's called?

HazleNutt Sun 30-Sep-12 12:13:06

we're not using lube exactly for the reason that it can apparently seriously inhibit conception. If you need something, definitely get the Conceive plus, Pre-Seed or other similar fertility-friendly ones.

I haven't told DH when I'm about to POAS either.

caboodles Sun 30-Sep-12 13:12:03

Thanks bunnygirlie. Sorry AF turned up on holiday, that's crap.

Guess it's a bit naiive to think things could be happening only on our first month... I promised myself I wouldn't start symptom spotting but here I am... Serious respect to those of you who've been doing this for a while, it's going to drive me loopy I think!

Good luck everyone! And Pipbin fingers crossed for next week, your test sounded really frustrating.

janey1234 Sun 30-Sep-12 13:32:32

Bunny - we don't usually use one but bought conceive plus this month as someone told me (ie I read somewhere online in my obsessive research!) that it helps the swimmers get further and stick around longer. AF due tomorrow or tues so yet to POAS so can't tell you if it worked. Absolutely no symptoms thus month though so I don't think so...sad

ella0 Sun 30-Sep-12 17:27:09

Sorry to those who AF got.

Pipbin AF hasn't arrived here yet, and for the past couple of months she had arrived by now. I'll test tomorrow morning if she hasn't arrived by then. I'm not too hopeful though as my weird feelings stopped a good few days ago and I had pre af feelings for a few seconds half hr ago.

I hate this time of the month. I dread going to the loo.

Pipbin Sun 30-Sep-12 19:38:52

Me too. I think if I don't see the spotting then it won't happen.

janey1234 Sun 30-Sep-12 22:55:52

I'm also getting the fear every time I go to the loo now! Tuesday is day 28... My cycles are usually between 24&27.... Absolutely symptom free though so not getting hopes up. Good luck to everyone POAS this week!smile

bingeddybongo Mon 01-Oct-12 06:22:40

Sorry to those of you who've been done over by AF sad

Ella I feel just the same as you, my hopes went right up last week and then DH talked me out of it completely because it is totally ridiculous to think that I might conceive first time round. And I haven't had any symptoms since. I didn't test yesterday because I realised it was far too early and although the test I've got says I can take it 4 days pre AF, I think I'm going to wait as long as possible though because I don't really want to have to do it during the week and have to go straight to work feeling totally disappointed! In any case, DH is off on business during my next OV so although I'm desperate to get on with ttc at least I won't have to go through all this symptom spotting again for a while!!

Am rooting for those of you still waiting smile

ella0 Mon 01-Oct-12 06:35:12

I've just got my BFP!!!!!

Tested on a First Response and then a Clear Blue digital which showed Pregnant 1-2 weeks!

Will post pics later.

I still can't believe it, fingers crossed for a sticky one.

Fingers crossed for everyone else, and good luck bing.

janey1234 Mon 01-Oct-12 07:03:29

Oh Ella that's amazing news, massive congratulations grin

Right maybe I will test later. Trying not to get my hopes up!

Did you have any symptoms Ella?

Congrats again - a out time we got another BFP in our little group x smile

HazleNutt Mon 01-Oct-12 07:44:22

Congratulations! So exciting!

ZombiesAreClammyDodgers Mon 01-Oct-12 07:47:56

Congratulations Ella! A summer baby then hopefully smile

In other news, got my expected but still disappointing BFN this morning.

Lolcbcblemonlime Mon 01-Oct-12 08:17:36

Congrats Ella. Bollocks to other bfn. sad

HazleNutt Mon 01-Oct-12 08:45:57

From my side, didn't get the OV symbol on the monitor this month (and done with testing), so don't know if and when it happened. Monitor has been showing red (risk of getting pregnant) since the AF though. But don't feel pregnant, last month felt funny pretty much immediately. So not getting the hopes up from my side..
Ah well, all the shagging is certainly good for the relationship smile

janey1234 Mon 01-Oct-12 09:05:35

I'm sorry zombies. Finally caved in this morning and decided to POAS, BFN for me too sad

HazleNutt Mon 01-Oct-12 09:31:06

Oh sorry Zombies and Janey - still hope though until AF shows up.

Pipbin Mon 01-Oct-12 13:01:36

Congratulation Ella looks like you won our sticks at dawn battle.
AF is here.
Onwards to cycle 14.
I've decided to make a real effort this month. Eating well, exercise and DTD every other day.

HazleNutt Mon 01-Oct-12 13:07:04

Sorry Pipbin. You know they recommend DTD every day now, apparently improves the quality of the swimmers.
It's symptom spotting time for me, can definitely imagine have sore boobs and some back pain. Which of course does not mean anything, as unless the OV was significantly earlier, I would not have any symptoms yet. The power of wishful thinking..

Bunnygirlie Mon 01-Oct-12 13:23:17

Congrats Ella you lucky bugger ;-)

My doctor said don't DTD too often as the sperm can get tired, all this conflicting info is so confusing!

Off to order some conceive plus then.....

HazleNutt Mon 01-Oct-12 13:35:44

There is a study here http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8125934.stm claiming that while yes, the number of swimmers goes down if DTD every day, it does improve the quality. So unless the man has low sperm count, daily might be a better option. In real life, there's probably little difference, if any, between daily and every other day.

HazleNutt Mon 01-Oct-12 13:35:55
janey1234 Mon 01-Oct-12 15:41:25

I'm really, really hoping that it was a false negative, despite me having absolutely no symptoms of being pg whatsoever.

I'm on day 27 of cycle, usually my cycles are shorter than that, and I bought a cheapie boots one that said it's 99% effective from the day your period is due.

I'm kidding myself, aren't I sad

ella0 Mon 01-Oct-12 17:04:59

I'm so sorry pipbin, and to those who have got BFNs (*janey*, it's not over till af arrives).

Thanks to everyone for the congratulations! smile

janey, I just posted this on another thread about my symptoms:
Symptoms for me this month (because I spent ages scouring the net for them during the 2ww!) were really mild cramps a few days after ovulation, and then mild burning feelings for a couple of days after that. I thought af was on the way yesterday when I had more mild cramps (though I normally get them once af has come). I noticed last night that the cente of my nipples is much paler than the outside (of the nipple, not the areola), so either they've lightened or the ourside has got darker. I also had a slight headache yesterday (I never get headaches) and I felt really tired over the weekend (was travelling though, so thought it was linked to that).

My boobs were sore last month (for the first time ever) but af arrived early. This month, they haven't been sore at all.

This month we used clear blue digital ovulation sticks for the first time. We dtd the day before my smiley (because it was day 14 and I was worried I wouldn't get one and didn't want to miss out), day 15 (smiley day) and the day after (ovulation day), so three days in a row didn't hurt us around ovulation time.

janey1234 Mon 01-Oct-12 17:11:31

We used ovulation sticks too - I got a smile one afternoon and again the next day, so we must have been DTD at about the right time (like you, three days on the trot!), I just have no symptoms at all (except that I was REALLY tired last week, but I could have just been really tired anyway?!). Having said that when I was accidentally pg last year (mc at 12 weeks in the end) I had no symptoms at all, but just noticed I was a couple of days late and did a test feeling CERTAIN that I wasn't pg, but just wanting to rule it out.
Am soooo hoping it was a false negative, it's such a crushing disappointment...

I was ridiculously emotional this weekend -and do remember crying ALL the time in the first few weeks last time - but then again that could just be usual hormones. Who knows. Still got my fingers crossed!

Very happy for you ella, really am x

ella0 Mon 01-Oct-12 17:14:28

Fingers crossed for you Janey, and thank you smile .

I've added a photo of my tests to my profile (I hope - new to this!).

janey1234 Mon 01-Oct-12 17:23:59

ella - it says they're not public. Now, that could just be me being an eejit, or it could be you haven't added them 'properly'. Who knows!

ella0 Mon 01-Oct-12 17:31:48

I've just changed my settings smile

ella0 Mon 01-Oct-12 17:32:27

They're tiny though for some reason!

Rache1S Mon 01-Oct-12 19:42:38

Wow, congratulations Ella that's fantastic news! Well done you! grin grin grin

ella0 Mon 01-Oct-12 20:39:33

Thank you! My husband just made me do a third (superdrug) test to be sure - still BFP!

bingeddybongo Mon 01-Oct-12 20:44:38

Sorry to all of you who have been visited by AF or got BFNs sad

...but ella... CONGRATLUATIONS!! That's fantastic news smile Your list of symptoms is identical to mine bar the headache, so I'm trying really hard not to get my hopes up again. And thank you for describing your nipple symptom because you've described exactly what mine are like and I've been getting them out at every available opportunity just to see whether I think they're normally like that or not!! However, I've got really sharp pains in my tummy this evening which don't feel like they can be good - I've been really stressed lately so went for a back/shoulder massage earlier, had no idea that wasn't a good idea (I said I "might" be pregnant and they just said they'd be gentle with me) and so I totally freaked out when I got back and asked google - but, well, I'll suppose we'll see what happens...

Keep hanging on everybody who's waiting for AF not to turn up smile

ella0 Mon 01-Oct-12 21:28:38

Thank you bing smile

It is sounding really good for you! Fingers crossed - when are you going to test?

Haha, I wasn't sure if my nipples were normally like that or not. Looking back, last month I looked for veiny boobs as I'd read that was a symptom, so I'm thinking that if they are always like that surely I'd have noticed it then.

I'm still getting weird stomach feelings so try no to worry about them. And don't worry about the massage either as if they were gentle it shouldn't be a problem. People who aren't planning a baby do all sorts of stuff before they find out without causing problems.

Scraggyanna Mon 01-Oct-12 21:30:11

Hello all,

I was wondering if I could join in...?

This was my first month TTC in earnest since stopping the pill in January. I'm 30 and married.

AF is due roughly, approximately, any time now....perhaps! Unfortunately, my cycle has been pretty irregular so it's fairly tricky to track. I feel as though AF might be nearing though, and have had some spotting for the last few days, which, much as I would love to be signifying something else, I'm fairly sure is just AF on it's way!

I've been using the cheap ovulation tests for a couple of months, but cannot fathom whether the line ever gets to the same darkness as the control line or whether it's always a bit lighter despite much studying!

So, I have just bought some of the clear blue tests in the hope that I am intelligent enough to decipher a smiley face grin .

bingeddybongo Mon 01-Oct-12 21:43:28

Hi Scraggy, welcome grin

Thanks for the reassurance, ella, you're totally right. The massage was meant to relax me, after all!! I'm not due on till the weekend but having been regular for ages, my cycle's been getting longer and longer over the last few months, so I'm not exactly sure when AF's meant to appear. I suppose since the test I have says I can test 4 days in advance then Weds at the earliest, if I really can't wait any longer. Eek!

janey1234 Tue 02-Oct-12 09:19:00

So... No AF still. Another boots cheapie BFN this morning. Is day 28, I usually (pre pill - which I was on for about four months this year, but before that have been off it for about six years so know my natural cycle pretty well) have about a 25 day cycle, but it varied between 23 and 26 days really. It was NEVER 28 days or longer, never. So do I buy a more expensive test, or am I kidding myself? Do you think my cycle could be slightly screwed due to coming off the pill two months ago?

ella - love the pics, and the fact that you've done so many tests so you can actually believe your good news - think I would be exactly the same! smile

HazleNutt Tue 02-Oct-12 09:23:21

When I came off the pill, my cycles were all over the place indeed. Maybe give it a couple of days before you test again (I know, almost impossible, isn't it)

janey1234 Tue 02-Oct-12 11:44:56

I know you're right hazle, it's just so hard not to get your hopes up! Especially as I used the CB ovulation predictor stick things this month too - got a smiley face on the exact day I'd expected... Hey ho....

HazleNutt Tue 02-Oct-12 15:39:07

Ok I have to stop grabbing my boobs to check for soreness, colleagues starting to look at me funny.

Nelly232 Tue 02-Oct-12 17:03:55

Hello! Can I join too - I'm new to this.
Nelly, Married - just, 28, ttc cycle 2

janey1234 Tue 02-Oct-12 17:07:03

Hazle - really made me laugh. I have one sore boob, which is odd, esp given BFN this morning. Maybe I'm half pregnant?!

Nelly - welcome!

HazleNutt Tue 02-Oct-12 17:09:04

Last month I got sore boobs but was testing negative, took I think 2-3 days before the BFP showed up.

Rache1S Tue 02-Oct-12 18:36:23

Right ladies, smiley face on the Clear Blue this morning and just DTD (glamorously typing this
lying down with a pillow under my arse while DH is in the shower) so i'm back in the game on the 2WW. Hurry up the 19th!!! :-)

ZombiesAreClammyDodgers Tue 02-Oct-12 19:44:31

Ah AF is going to strike! Spotting so in the next day or two I hope? Onwards and upwards to the next cycle!

Quodlibet Tue 02-Oct-12 20:03:27

Alright ladies, I'm back off me hols - congratulations to Ella! And commiserations to all those who've not rolled a six this month.

Bunnie I had the same as you - AF turned up on holiday, arse arse arse.

Anyway, onwards and upwards. Oh, except this month if I want any chance of a crack of the TTC whip, I am going to have to go to Belgium for a couple of days to get anywhere near any sperm, as DP is away during the time I will likely be ovulating. Hard not to feel like this is some sort of cosmic test at times, isn't it?!

On another note does anyone else feel like their AF differs from month to month? I get some months where it seems to be heavier than other months, and some months with sore boobs, some not. Only me?

janey1234 Tue 02-Oct-12 22:01:36

Quod - welcome back? And belgium's supposed to be nice thus time if year, right? wink

Zombies - sorry about AF. Went to gym tonight and the old boot decided to join me there. Still, onwards and upwards! Hoping for third time lucky?

Pipbin Tue 02-Oct-12 22:46:09

Onwards and upwards elderberry pavlovas!

I'm not sure what is going to happen to me this month, my normal cycle is about 33 days, but this last one was 26 days!
Janey sorry to hear about AF.

HazleNutt Wed 03-Oct-12 08:01:07

Oh sorry about the AF.
Nothing here yet and for some reason I don't think anything happened this month. Sigh.
We're renovating the kitchen and I find it incredibly stressful, so will just blame any non-happenings on that. It's dusty, we're cooking in the basement, can't find anything as everything is packed away somewhere. Oh and doing the stairs tomorrow and Friday probably, so wont have access to upstairs for a couple of days. The fun. A few more weeks to go until it's totally ready, can't wait.

ZombiesAreClammyDodgers Wed 03-Oct-12 08:22:32

Anyone taking any prenatal vitamins?

HazleNutt Wed 03-Oct-12 08:52:40

yes, I'm taking those ones at the moment:
www.amazon.com/Natures-Bounty-Multi-Prenatal-Softgels/dp/B003UAA78W/ref=sr_1_33?ie=UTF8&qid=1349250625&sr=8-33&keywords=prenatal+vitamins

And also have a pack of those waiting
www.amazon.fr/GESTARELLE-IPRAD-Gestarelle-g3/dp/B008X7KHOQ/ref=sr_1_10?s=hpc&ie=UTF8&qid=1349250690&sr=1-10

I've heard that a lot of people have had issues with the Pregnacare ones, so read the reviews before you buy those.

ZombiesAreClammyDodgers Wed 03-Oct-12 08:56:16

Thanks hazle. Thinking of getting Sanatogen Pronatal. .

bingeddybongo Wed 03-Oct-12 09:07:10

I'm taking Folio Forte - I took it for a good six months last year when we had talked about starting ttc and then I came off it when we decided to wait... so I hurriedly started again the day after we unplannedly started ttc!

I POAS this morning (at bloody half past six because I woke up desperate for a wee) and got a BFN. I'm still at least 4 days off AF's arrival though so will try to be patient and save my crushing disappointment for the weekend!!

Lolcbcblemonlime Wed 03-Oct-12 12:44:11

I took pregnacare for one month and didn't like it. I just finished a bottle of the wilkinson pg ones and really liked it.
I now have centrum pregnancy to start tomorrow.

HazleNutt Thu 04-Oct-12 07:03:00

So, Elderberries, any POASing today?

janey1234 Thu 04-Oct-12 10:17:21

No, am mid-AF, but hell, I became so obsessed with POASing earlier in the week I might start just doing it on a daily basis wink
Good luck to anyone testing soon!

bingeddybongo Sat 06-Oct-12 07:45:30

I just POA Clear Blue Digital which very smugly informed me I wasn't pregnant. Grrr. I think AF is due tomorrow or possibly later, since my cycles have been getting longer and longer, so I'm not giving up hope, especially since I have had almost all the same symptoms as ella! I've also had lots of twinges over the last 24 hours. For god's sake, my bloody nipples have changed colour! I suppose that just means if AF turns up I'll have to go see the doctor anyway ;)

happylass Sat 06-Oct-12 07:49:53

All gone a bit quiet on here. How's everyone doing? I got a positive on the OPK yesterday so I'll be testing on the 19th too Rache1S or maybe a few days before

HazleNutt Sat 06-Oct-12 08:09:23

nothing to report here, my persona monitor has been all red this month, still red on day 23, but has now showed the OV symbol, so I have no idea if and when I've ovulated and when AF is due.
Ordered some cheapo tests from amazon so will be testing in a week or so. or maybe a bit earlier

Pipbin Sat 06-Oct-12 08:34:33

It's very quiet isn't it.
DH is in a fit of depression right now and so DTD EOD has gone out of the window rather. Still, I'm only on CD6 so I'm not worried.

Lilyjosh Sat 06-Oct-12 09:21:46

Morning all, just catching up on all the posts seems really quiet this last few days.

Does anyone using cbfm know if you forget to test first thing and have to test at your next wee does it effect the tests? 6 high days and no peak and I missed fmu on the day I though would be my peak. All the lines on the sticks seem really faint. Maybe just no ov this month sad

ella0 Sat 06-Oct-12 14:45:49

Fingers crossed for you bing (and everyone else). It's not over until af arrives. I got my BFP on the day af was due.

bingeddybongo Sat 06-Oct-12 16:17:27

Thanks ella smile I just wish I knew when I was due! ;) How are you feeling?

Bunnygirlie Sat 06-Oct-12 18:56:32

hey ladies, back off my holibobs too :-( Missed you all!

Quod - arse arse arse indeed! I had sore chesticles and then AF turned up early! pants! I had dreamed of returning from holiday to POAS not heading out in spain to buy doofers :-(

So I have bitten the bullet and bought some concieve plus - hope that my problem has been the lube and this will solve things (what a dreamer). It also came with some basic ov tests - not sure when to test though as no idea when ovulating :-S

ella0 Sat 06-Oct-12 22:36:46

Sorry af showed up bunny. Cp seems to work for a lot of people, so fingers crossed it makes a difference for you.

bing pregnancy-wise I'm feeling pretty good thanks, just a bit tired (which reminds me of another symptom I had around a week after ov - I woke up after what I thought was a good nights sleep, feeling exhausted). However, I've had a bad cold and sore throat since Thurs so I'm not feeling my best due to that.

HazleNutt Sun 07-Oct-12 13:00:07

Just got a birthday card from SIL congratulating me on my 33rd birthday. I'm 34. But apparently look loads younger then grin
Only have a few months though to get the BFP until I would be over 35 when giving birth and officially an Elderberry. One of those eeeevil women who delayed children to concentrate on their career. Tsk.

bingeddybongo Sun 07-Oct-12 15:12:00

Oh well I'm thrilled to hear I'm still 17 months off being an Elderberry myself! Happy birthday Hazlenutt, and congratulations on your youthful looks grin

Sorry to hear you've got a cold, ella, that's rubbish timing! And sorry about AF, Bunny, that's really crap timing as well.

It's got so quiet around here that I'm not sure who I'm meant to still be crossing my fingers for, but they're still very firmly crossed for everybody who needs them!

Rache1S Sun 07-Oct-12 17:50:53

happylass I'm so pleased to have someone join me in the 2ww! I was randomly sick yesterday afternoon which is obviously a really really mega early pregnancy sign and nothing whatsoever to do with Friday night's excessive booze grin
I think this week will be fine because it's unlikely that a BFP would show up but as soon as the weekend arrives I am going to have to show some massive self restraint not to POAS, especially as my Sis (who is currently 14 weeks pregnant) got her first (very feint) BFP at 8 DPO.

Lolcbcblemonlime Sun 07-Oct-12 17:55:17

So is there any upcoming poas action over next few days???? I'm not even at ov yet. Booooooring!

janey1234 Sun 07-Oct-12 18:40:58

I'm with you Lol - AF only just finishing so aaages until ov and the 2ww seems like an eternity away...
Welcome back and fingers crossed for those waiting to POAS - perhaps we need to bring the list back, I can't remember where we are!

ZombiesAreClammyDodgers Sun 07-Oct-12 18:56:25

I'm with you janey - AF should hopefully be completely done by tomorrow. Started up the cbfm today- cd 6 tomorrow, and starting vitamins from tomorrow- had only been having frolic acid till now.
The phone corrected folic acid to frolic acid but I think that describe it better so won't correct smile

ZombiesAreClammyDodgers Sun 07-Oct-12 18:56:59

describes

yorkiebilb Sun 07-Oct-12 20:20:31

hey, hope you don't mind me joining so far on in this thread but I'm a newbie to all of this! I'm 34, married since July and ttc since October. Still trying to get my head around all the acronyms so please bear with me!

ZombiesAreClammyDodgers Sun 07-Oct-12 20:30:36

Welcome yorkie and all the other new faces to the Elderberry Pavlova thread!

Bunnygirlie Sun 07-Oct-12 22:04:08

It's getting a tad long this thread - shall I start a new one?

How about - Elderberry Pavlovas Unite - the over 30s TTC number 1 ;-)

and we need a refresher on who is who etc

happylass Sun 07-Oct-12 23:38:01

Rachel1S I too will be madly symptom spotting for the next 2 weeks. Going to try to hold out until Saturday 20th as not keen on POAS and heading straight off to work whatever the outcome!! but will probably end up testing as ridiculously early as next Sunday
<holds hand for 2ww>

Rache1S Tue 09-Oct-12 10:00:47

Wow happylass, Sat 20th? I will definitely not last that long! Especially as I already have some tests in the bathroom cabinet left over from last month. If I get my usual PMS this weekend I might be able to hold out because I will be convinced AF is on the way, but if anything out of the ordinary happens I reckon I will be POAS every day from about Monday!
Have you got any symptoms yet? If we were PG implantation would be happening any time now. smile I keep getting small pelvic twinges but I think they are probably caused by me obsessively thinking about it!

happylass Tue 09-Oct-12 15:39:24

How early can I get away with testing though Rache1S? Assuming that I ovulated Saturday just gone, would this coming Sunday not be too soon and a total waste of money? Not really had any symptoms. Convinced I've felt a few twinges too but am probably just imaging it as had these just after I came off the pill. Also don't know what to do about the alcohol situation as am out for a friends birthday this Friday confused

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