TTC first baby #2

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NicolaHazel Fri 08-Jun-12 10:57:50

Due to the luck thread starters have, I thought I'd mark a place for the second thread as we are so chatty!

Here's to BFPs for us all :-)

DulcetMoans Fri 08-Jun-12 12:39:57

Yay! Holding place and ready to chat!

alwyn Fri 08-Jun-12 12:42:55

Ha! Like your style Nicola!!

NicolaHazel Fri 08-Jun-12 12:44:48

Thanks, alwyn!

There had been a run of thread starting luck recently, so I wanted a bit of that action :-)

This will be the end of the luck, ha ha!

alwyn Fri 08-Jun-12 12:46:26

Fx it's not!!

Popinda Fri 08-Jun-12 13:32:11

Hello, I would like to join too! grin let's all get bfp this month! gringrin Nicola if that's happens this would be the most fertile tread! gringrin cheers to that! grin and some biscuit

EchoDragon Fri 08-Jun-12 13:48:29

Oooh count me in. Need some of that luck from old thread.
<settles down with brew and hands out chocolate cake>

Maclairey Fri 08-Jun-12 14:29:04

I am in!!

I need some kind of luck, day 48 and counting sad

FlipperSkipper Fri 08-Jun-12 14:30:38

Hello! I posted on the first time frolickers thread, but there's more than one first baby thread. Is it bad netiquette to post here too? I'm 33, my husband is 38 and we've been trying for 10 months. We've had some basic tests done by the GP (blood tests and ultrasound for me, semen analysis for him) and have been referred to the hospital for further tests now, as I had a burst appendix 10 years ago and have been warned that this could affect fertility, as scarring could block my tubes.

My blood tests and ultrasound were fine, and I'm using a clearblue fertility monitor that says I ovulate on day 20 of a 30 day cycle. My husband's sperm count came back as low (5million/ml) but motility etc. was all fine, so this is being repeated and he's started taking the wellman conception vitamins. I'm pleased we've got the referral, but all of a sudden it all seems so much more serious! I'm so scared that my surgery from years ago is going to affect all this.

LisaC2611 Fri 08-Jun-12 14:31:13

Hi all, can I join too? I'm 36, DH is 38 and we are on the 2nd cycle of TTC our first baby. Thought we had hit the jackpot first time last month as was 6 days overdue, but typically bought a test, which was negative and then AF visited the next morning!

Here's hoping for a BFP this month (or next). Lots of baby dust for everyone grin

Pinkie29 Fri 08-Jun-12 14:34:37

Maclairey - a great help for bad skin in pure bentonite clay, you get a kilo off eBay for about £10 and mix up a face mask, literally feel the dirt being sucked out of your skin!

Maclairey Fri 08-Jun-12 14:37:25

Thanks Pinkie, I may have to look into that. Not sure I can handle loads of zits again, it was bad enough first time round!

Hello to those above. Enjoy joining in the madness smile

Pinkie29 Fri 08-Jun-12 14:38:25

It was the only thing that worked for me and I've tried everything the last 5 years!!

Popinda Fri 08-Jun-12 14:39:42

Tried to post to old tread, not possible any more. sad
Maclairey - same prob here! I look like 15 year old teen! sad
Pinkie will try your tip. Fx it will help! smile

KickTheGuru Fri 08-Jun-12 14:40:00

I am just chucking in an answer to mrsbugsy from the other thread:

The trouble is mrsbugsy is that I had this at the same time last month and got very excited about it. THIS month, I know it's not from pregnancy even thought the things this month are much more severe.

The heart burn thing I had last month, but things taste very strong for me today. The Lucozade I have had to water down and normally I can eat pineapple but it's been given away on account of clawing down my gullet.

I was erring towards progesterone levels but non of my other symptoms indicate progesterone errors. Even thyroid says your menstrual cycles are meant to slow or change and mine hasn't. If it is a thyroid issue, I have half the symptoms over the overactive and half of under active.

I have no idea.

But the antihistamines make my mouth not so dry so I could actually manage to sleep a full (ish) night last night.

Doctors' issue now. They need to fix it. I have no idea.

KickTheGuru Fri 08-Jun-12 14:41:25


Dont' get down on yourself. We've been TTC for the same length of time and I had fibroid surgery 3 years ago. They go on and on about how it could affect my fertility but I know my doctor would have told me if there were any issues.

Chin up. We'll get there smile

Kittenkatzen Fri 08-Jun-12 14:43:53

<sneaks in to mark place, take the BIGGEST bit of echo's chocolate cake..>

Welcome to the newbies, hope some of the luck from this lovely thread rubs off on you!

nicola/red i love love love Muse! They are amazing live, always put on a brilliant show. Really hoping I get allocated tickets as it's always such a nightmare trying to get on Ticketmaster or whatever in the general sale. There are only two London dates though arrrgh!!

redstrawberry Fri 08-Jun-12 14:49:25

Fx you get the tickets kitten
I not feeling too hopeful this cycle, only dtd twice so far. Will try and fit in some humpage over the weekend.

<waves at everyone on the thread>

KickTheGuru Fri 08-Jun-12 14:51:02

Hump hump hump

I hope we've done it enough because I am TIRED today. It feels like a Saturday and I'm working!

alwyn Fri 08-Jun-12 14:53:14

I need to get on it tonight. And Sunday. And Tuesday.

Am feeling exhausted at the thought of it :P

NicolaHazel Fri 08-Jun-12 14:55:14

We have had so many nightmares getting tickets, Kitten so I more than share your pain.

I've seen them about 20 times all over the world!

Maclairey Fri 08-Jun-12 14:55:17

Ok so I am contemplating poas tomorrow morning. Am I wasting my time and wishful thinking or should I do it? I have no idea what's going on with my body and don't want to keep getting my hopes up and wasting tests. Answers on a postcard please smile

KickTheGuru Fri 08-Jun-12 14:57:47

I will pee with you!

Far too early for me but what the hell?

Maclairey Fri 08-Jun-12 14:59:35

Ok kick it's a date. I will be using a sd hpt. Maybe we will get lucky although I am not convinced for myself...

DulcetMoans Fri 08-Jun-12 15:01:34

Aw, I POAS this morning (bfn by the way) but wish I had waited to join the POAS party instead now!

Maclairey Fri 08-Jun-12 15:03:01

Do another one Dulcet.

Clearly I am a bad influence...

KickTheGuru Fri 08-Jun-12 15:06:58

I have internet cheapies

I did PIAC (pee in a cup) the day before last but I knew it was a waste because I am drinking so much water that it won't get picked up anyway...

Operation internet cheapie PIAC commences tomorrow morning

alwyn Fri 08-Jun-12 15:08:34

I think I might join the POAS party as well on Monday. Only got 5 sticks atm so will need to get some from ebay!

DulcetMoans Fri 08-Jun-12 15:08:55

Well it was the only one I had. Just one left over from a two pack from a scare nearly two years ago! I probably should get some more if we are doing this thing properly...

I am the least organised TTC person, I swear!

KickTheGuru Fri 08-Jun-12 15:11:15

We had one left over from last cycle - stupid thirst / heartburn (same as now) made me think I was pregnant.

Then another 5 or so from December when we had a chem pg.

And I just bought 15 off the internet

I am sure I have enough to test grin

Maclairey Fri 08-Jun-12 15:15:18


Anyone else wanna join in. The more people that join the poas party the more likely someone will be successful.

FC for us all. Kick will you be able to hold your pee all night?

DulcetMoans Fri 08-Jun-12 15:23:05

That's it, I am going to the shop after work to get one. I want to play! I fully expect a BFN but at least I will have been involved!

Maclairey Fri 08-Jun-12 15:28:39

Me too Dulcet but I am happy to take one for the team. It has to happen eventually right?

KFFOREVER Fri 08-Jun-12 15:28:47

Im back too. I tried to post on the other thread (a long post too but now I have lost it). Oh well. My boss let me work from home this afternoon but MN is sooooo addictive. I was thinking while I was on the bus that getting pregnant should be like getting a cold. lol

KickTheGuru Fri 08-Jun-12 15:32:20

KF - you ok?

I can hold it for about 4 hours at night, if the thirst thing can be controlled (randomly) by the antihistamines again. At least I can POAS and just have fun. Will be 5 days before AF is due so like a 46% chance of a positive anyway

How the hell do I remember all these stats?

Pinkie29 Fri 08-Jun-12 15:35:13

Christ I turn my back for 5 minutes and you turn into a bunch of pee on stickers grin I always peed in a pot!

Well midwife (finally) rang! My first appointment is June 22nd I asked her about the cramping she said its perfectly normal and especially with the first pregnancy the womb is adjusting that way for the first time and stretching so it can feel a bit uncomfortable, she said if it gets really bad or any sign of bleeding go straight to the gp who will refer me to gynaecology, not had anything worse than mild/moderate period pain as yet and things seem calmer today smile

KickTheGuru Fri 08-Jun-12 15:39:45

YAY for the (slightly lazy) midwife!

At least all concerns have been put to rest now. Thats brilliant! Does she seem nice?

Popinda Fri 08-Jun-12 15:45:44

I'm in too! I want to poas! I got over 30 tests at home! Im addicted to testing! blushgrin Way early for me as I'm only about to ov this cycle! blush] But I want to join the party! gringrin
Just to see how much of an addict I'm, I poaos (peen on an ov stick) twice a day! blush
When is the poas party? I really want some biscuitbiscuitbiscuit

NicolaHazel Fri 08-Jun-12 15:46:57

I'll join in if my cheapie ones have appeared!

It'll be BFN, but sod it!

KickTheGuru Fri 08-Jun-12 15:48:39

BFN for me too

Shame DH was worried because one of the tests they are doing is hormonal so they need to do it on CD2. He was all concerned because what I what if I don't HAVE a CD2 this cycle...

Popinda Fri 08-Jun-12 15:54:33

Kick - have you just tested?

FlipperSkipper Fri 08-Jun-12 15:55:13

Thank you KickTheguru, every Dr I've ever spoken to about it has a different opinion, and until any tests show it's good news or bad there's no way of knowing.

Love the POAS party that seems to be happening! smile

KickTheGuru Fri 08-Jun-12 16:00:31

pop - nope am just predicting grin

Yeh flipper - it's different to each doctor. When I started with my fibroids, I was 27 and the first doctor I saw told me I needed a hysterectomy. I told him where he could shove his head...

What specifically are you doing for the pregnancy thing?

FlipperSkipper Fri 08-Jun-12 16:21:17

I like your style Kick! grin What specifically am I doing? Just shagging lots! My blood tests say I'm ovulating, although husband's sperm count came back as low, so that's being re-tested. We've been referred to the hospital where I'm hoping for a lap and dye or hysterosalpingogram to see if there is a problem with my tubes. I'm using the CBFM (which is good, as I ovulate much later than I thought) but trying not to get too obsessive about it all - the last couple of weeks have been hard though, I'm thinking about it all too much really.

KickTheGuru Fri 08-Jun-12 16:23:51

Make sure you shag EOD with the low sperm count so that his swimmers get a chance to recoup.

Try to just DTD for as long as possible over the entire time.

KFFOREVER Fri 08-Jun-12 16:33:58

kick I felt queasy this morning. I have just finished AF so nope its not pregnancy. Must be something dodgy I ate.

Wow guys I can't keep up. Soon my house work and work will get neglected. blush

FlipperSkipper Fri 08-Jun-12 16:41:36

Cheers kick! Blimey, the stuff you discuss with people you've never met on the net smile

EchoDragon Fri 08-Jun-12 16:47:43

Oh maclairey I can sympathise I'm on cd50 and appear to have EWCM last two days. So who knows what the help is going on with me.

POA's I'd join you but I don't have any at the mo. Hmm will have to rectify that. So fx for you all. Here's to BFP's all around.

<fixes kitten with a stern glare and smacks hand for not sharing nicely>

KickTheGuru Fri 08-Jun-12 16:48:05

Nothing is private anymore...mwaaaahahaha!!

KickTheGuru Fri 08-Jun-12 16:49:58

Bad luck on queasiness sad

I have left work early on account of feeling like a sick hot dog

KickTheGuru Fri 08-Jun-12 16:55:44

Oh and sticks out bottom lip, lets it quiver, sniffs and hands over a cheapie internet stick to echo

Then sobs in a corner

NICE echo!! ;)

Maclairey Fri 08-Jun-12 16:58:02

The poas party is tomorrow morning for those that wanna join in.

Ahh Echo it's a little bit soul destroying isn't it. I just want normal cycles surely that's not too much to ask. This one feels like it may never end which I wouldn't mind if I was pregnant smile

Hey Kick isn't extreme thirst a sign of diabetes? I hope you feel better soon.

Glad you have spoken to a midwife now Pinkie, glad the cramps have eased off too. PMA all the way hun xx

Bloody hell, I disappear for a few hours and come back to find the old thread full and the new one 3 pages in already!

kitten & nicola I'm a fellow muser grin Only seen them about 5 times though but amazing every time!

I will join the poas party too! I posted on the June thread about testing earlier - not sure if I can see a faint line so going to try again in the morning.

pinkie glad midwife finally got in touch! and that you feel more at ease now smile

Popinda Fri 08-Jun-12 17:32:24

Queen when is af due?

Popinda Fri 08-Jun-12 17:32:39

Or not? grin

pop af isn't due until Wednesday so I'm 5 days early today. The line I thought I saw earlier was probably just an evaporation line but will try again tomorrow to check. Trying not to get my hopes up too much though.

KickTheGuru Fri 08-Jun-12 17:39:21

Coupled with all the other symptoms, it could be my thyroid, diabetes, liver or kidney, allergies, hormones...

They will test everything on cd2 of my next cycle. So no buggering about!!!

NicolaHazel Fri 08-Jun-12 17:53:19

Ooh...a mini Muser MN meet! :-)

They are just amazing live. Fingers crossed one of us gets Manchester tickets, as both me and H2B have applied. Do you want our spares, Queen, if we are both lucky? MEN on Nov 1st.

So...POAS party tomorrow then?!

Popinda Fri 08-Jun-12 17:55:42

Wow queen that's exciting! Fx the line will get stronger! This is really the most fertile thread on mn! gringrin

Maclairey Fri 08-Jun-12 18:01:35

Well I have just eaten my roast pork and cleared up so have collapsed on the sofa.

Queen fc for a very strong line in the morning.

It sounds like it could be any number of things then Kick. Hopefully you wil find out soon.

Can't say I am big fan of Muse. I have only ever seen Bon Jovi live (3 times) and they are awesome.

Errrggh I think I have eaten too much. Although I do have a fresh cream Belgian chocolate choux bun in the fridge which has my name on it.

Kittenkatzen Fri 08-Jun-12 18:04:27

Eeeek echo why am I getting glared at?! <scared>

An M(use)N meet up would be fun haha!

I shall be logging in tomorrow morning to view the results of the POAS party - exciting grin

NicolaHazel Fri 08-Jun-12 18:09:32

I hope the party isn't too early!

Though I do tend to get up earlyish for my first wee, then go back to bed.

Is it better to PIAC and dip with cheapie sticks? Don't want to drown it, ha ha :-)

Kittenkatzen Fri 08-Jun-12 18:11:47

maclairey I saw Bon jovi at hard rock calling last year, they were indeed fab and only a teeny bit cheesetastic smile

DulcetMoans Fri 08-Jun-12 18:14:09

Right, sticks have been bought. I shall go to the POAS ball!

Good timing for a test as carpet for babies second bedroom in the morning!

OMG nicola I would love muse tickets! smile Imagine if we were both there with pg bellies grin

Thanks for the wishes ladies, keeping fx that it wasn't just an evap line.

kick did the docs say what would happen if you don't actually make it to CD2 wink Sorry if you've already said, still catching up with the thread.

kitten I just read about you putting ttc on hold a while - I'm sorry sad Re withdrawal method - I may be shot for saying this but I actually think its quite a reliable form of contraception!! blush I haven't used contraception for several years as I hated the injection, pill didn't agree with me, etc, plus a happy accident would have been fine, DH & I have been together for years and already owned a house, had careers etc. We just wanted to wait until after the wedding to officially start trying properly. Needless to say in all the time we used withdrawal I didn't get pregnant! It works I'm telling you!! grin Maybe your DH shouldn't pull out strrrraight awayyyy hmm

NicolaHazel Fri 08-Jun-12 18:21:37

That would be so cool, Queen...teaching our children about decent music, pre-birth (assuming Guiding Shite isn't played, ha ha!).

So hope your line darkened tomorrow.

Yay dulcet! when is af due for you?

nicola yes I always piac then hold the end of the test in up to the max line for 10-15 seconds or so.

lol@ bon jovi = teeny bit cheesetastic grin

I'll be playing muse to my baby whilst still in the womb nicola grin

thanks, I hope so too smile

Maclairey Fri 08-Jun-12 18:26:08

Kitten I went through a stage of loving Bon Jovi and loved seeing them live. I saw them open the O2 and was 3 rows from the front. The atmosphere was amazing.

Sooooo Euro 2012 has started then.....GREAT. Still keeps DH occupied whilst I am on MN talking to you guys and obsessing about babies/ttc

EchoDragon Fri 08-Jun-12 18:37:55

kicktheguru thanks for the cheapie. grin

kitten because you can't share cake nicely!

Hmm rapidly trying to plot how to get a stick to join rest of lemmings POAStickers tomorrow morning. Don't think I can manage it.

<rocks in corner at missing out on POAS party>

Maclairey Fri 08-Jun-12 18:50:09

Echo is this your first cycle after coming off the pill?

I am beginning to think that my body has forgotten what to do after 10 years of putting artificial hormones in it sad

DulcetMoans Fri 08-Jun-12 18:53:32

queen I don't really know when I am due actually. This is my first month TTC and been on pill/injection and not tracked any of it. I think I am about a week away though. I will write it down this time!

Mclairey - Bloody football! At least the TTC is the relief from the football. I see it as my reward! He gets football, I get baby!

alwyn Fri 08-Jun-12 18:53:41

When I say POAS I actually mean PIACTUTHCPII (pee in a container that used to have Christmas pudding in it)!

KickTheGuru Fri 08-Jun-12 19:05:01

Doc didnt say anything about what would happen if i don't get cd2. Its a bridge you cross when you get the line. Anything else is wishful thinking really.

Echo - ys big bully. I gives you a present and you pees on it. ;)

mclairey my DH has just finished watching one match then said "oh great theres another starting in 20min" hmm

dulcet test tomorrow anyway, no harm done!

xmas pudding container haha

KickTheGuru Fri 08-Jun-12 19:07:04

I PIACTUTBAGP (pees in a cup that used to be a gu pudding)

KickTheGuru Fri 08-Jun-12 19:07:44

I am so glad my DH hates football

alwyn Fri 08-Jun-12 19:09:07

Lol smile

The things we do for these beans smile

NicolaHazel Fri 08-Jun-12 19:11:50

Hmmm...I need to find some kind of dessert container then! :-)

My H2B hates football too, thank god.

Kittenkatzen Fri 08-Jun-12 19:12:41

Oh I see! sorry echo but I never share cake...even if it's not real grin

nicola I quite like guiding light <ducks> did you check out the trailer for the new album? And grin at you and queen rocking out whilst holding on to your bumps!

KickTheGuru Fri 08-Jun-12 19:13:37

I am keeping these stories and will totally tell all when bean is old enough smile

Kittenkatzen Fri 08-Jun-12 19:14:03

Oh and meant to say thanks queen.....have to admit I will be secretly hoping for an 'accident' blush

NicolaHazel Fri 08-Jun-12 19:15:12

Oh, and I have cheapie sticks, so I'm in on the party! :-)

alwyn Fri 08-Jun-12 19:15:47

Of course smile

We're off to Leeds festival in August. Have been told in no uncertain terms that I am NOT going in the pit if pg. But I just CAN'T stay at the back to watch the Foos. I just CAN'T!

NicolaHazel Fri 08-Jun-12 19:16:52

Yes, I did, Kitten! It's bloody EPIC!!!

Rather excited :-)

NicolaHazel Fri 08-Jun-12 19:18:34

Back can be a bit better, as you have room to move about. :-)

We quite often place ourselves at at AV desk at Muse's a nice spot for viewing.

Kittenkatzen Fri 08-Jun-12 19:23:43

Alwen I'm with you - as far forward as possible!! grin

EchoDragon Fri 08-Jun-12 19:52:22

maclairey had nexplanon so same ad cerazette mini pill. Periods were so irregular on it that I have no idea what normal is.

I will pee on my imaginary stick tomorrow to support all you ladies peeing for real

nicola are the muse tickets you applied for standing or seated? Or is it just luck of the draw?

Oh yes got to be up front for the foos!! I was at Leeds fest the last time they headlined there- amazing!! Have seen them since in Manchester, just as amazing! grin

Pinkie29 Fri 08-Jun-12 20:07:31

You've all been busy! The midwife seemed lovely but as its quite a large surgery there's 3 midwives so won't always see the same one due to holidays etc but all notes are centralised so they can all see what the others said to me and any questions I've asked, said first app last about an hour to go through medical history etc then it's about 15 or 20 minutes home appointments after that.

Popped out for a few hours and managed to convince them I'm on 4 weeks antibiotics phew grin will worry after that haha! Much calmer in myself today but still doesn't seem real? Me and dp had a walk round the baby section in tesco just browsing at nappies bottles... So much to get! Decided will wait till after the 12 week scan to start buying tho

alwyn Fri 08-Jun-12 20:15:50

Queen I was there too!!!

And then went to Manchester in 2005.

And then Milton Keynes last year wink

NicolaHazel Fri 08-Jun-12 20:18:41

Pre-sale is standing only, Queen.

I get claustrophobic in crowds and can't stand being squashed and battered. Plus I fainted at the Albert Hall gig whilst being!

Was at the front for Kasabian in Sheffield last year though. Mental night!

Kasabian - another fantastic live band! You'll see them at Leeds this year alwyn! I used to love going to Leeds, I used to camp in Yellow Bubble every year! (apart from one year got stuck in Red camp with a load of scary bikers but lets not mention that!)

I always think there's much more of an atmosphere in the standing section. Would have to stand at the back if pg though!

You ladies have fab taste in music grin

alwyn Fri 08-Jun-12 20:33:57

Ah but we're only going for the Friday! I don't camp :-P

Oh you're missing out alwyn! Well I say this but I no longer camp either which is why I stopped going!

The last year I went I found it impossible to fully embrace the rain and mud like I did in previous years. At the end of each long day I found myself wanting to retire to my tent with a nice hot brew than stay out all night with all the other crazy kids. It was during that weekend that I first felt old sad

NicolaHazel Fri 08-Jun-12 20:45:53

I'm not much of a camper either...we only did one day at Leeds last year and got there just in time for Elbow (who we're seeing at Jodrell Bank 2 weeks tomorrow) because of the weather!

We went to Oxegen the year before - again, day tickets - and got so wet and miserable we couldn't face that again!

We have awesome Reading-style wristbands for our Muser wedding guests...I'll try to put a photo in my profile in a bit. :-)

It's rather lovely 'meeting' new people with excellent taste in music!

alwyn Fri 08-Jun-12 20:46:15

Well I live in Leeds so would prefer to retire to my hot shower and nice comfy bed at night! Will deffo want to if I'm upduffed!

alwyn Fri 08-Jun-12 20:47:37

And yes, great to find people with awesome music taste :-)

nicola thats an amazing idea about festival wristbands for your wedding guests! Wish I had thought of that myself envy I had originally wanted a muse song for my first dance but hubby wouldn't agree! Couldn't decide on one anyway though.

alwyn Fri 08-Jun-12 21:05:09

We had aerosmith and then Foos :-)

NicolaHazel Fri 08-Jun-12 21:06:49

We did too...considered Blackout, but changed our minds. So it's now Elbow, One Day Like This.

But as a piss take we're having Neutron Star Collision as our 2nd song!

Photo now up, by the way.

Neutron Star Collision - might be a piss take but I think its quite sweet! Loving the wrist band pic! I want one! grin

what foos song did you have alwyn?

NicolaHazel Fri 08-Jun-12 21:20:15

It does have a good tune to it...a bit of Knights-style galloping type thing!

You can have one if you like...we have far too many :-)

Popinda Fri 08-Jun-12 21:28:13

Ladies, have you seen the program: "I didn't know I'm pregnant?"

Popinda Fri 08-Jun-12 21:34:16

Meant: I didn't know I was pregnant!

No haven't seen it pop what channel is it on?

nic If you end up having to post out some muse tickets to me then stick a wristband in too! Everyone will be asking me what the hell its for grin
Ohh just think, by the time you go to see muse you'll be married and poss pg too! How exciting! grin

NicolaHazel Fri 08-Jun-12 21:43:56

I know :-) All a bit mind-melting to be honest!

And I will do. Fx we 'win' both pairs!

Popinda Fri 08-Jun-12 21:47:47

Home and health. I just can not believe, that someone does not know that they are pg! How is this possible?

Popinda Fri 08-Jun-12 21:50:11

And next is: 19 kids and counting! grin

alwyn Fri 08-Jun-12 21:51:06

Queen we had Don't wanna miss a thing by Aerosmith, then Walking After You by Foos.

Was amazing and i would have chosen another Foos song as first dance if i could do it again!

DulcetMoans Fri 08-Jun-12 21:52:27

I've seen it Pop, it was on demand on our box a while ago. Pretty extreme. I've got 16 and pregnant on now. Oh dear!

alwyn Fri 08-Jun-12 21:55:20

Luckily my DH refuses to have such trash on the telly :-)

We're watching a repeat Have I Got News For You!

Popinda Fri 08-Jun-12 21:59:25

Dulcet - what channel 16 and pregnant?

DulcetMoans Fri 08-Jun-12 22:04:45

Finished at 10 but I think it was Viva. If I am watching trash its usually Viva or Really. And I do watch a lot of trash!!

Popinda Fri 08-Jun-12 22:07:30

Me too! I like it! gringrin it makes me feel normal. gringringringrin

Oh I've seen 16 and pregnant before, feel sorry for some of the girls on there, they look terrified sad

KickTheGuru Fri 08-Jun-12 22:12:45

We only watch viva for south park

no reality shows whatsoever

i must admit we are both complete snobs in that regard. People can't surely be that stupid?

Popinda Fri 08-Jun-12 22:15:56

Kick - oh yea, they can! I usually watch this things with amazement! grin

DulcetMoans Fri 08-Jun-12 22:26:55

Yeah, reality shows take up a fair proportion of my viewing time! You wouldn't like a weekend at my house Kick!

It seems like every second programme on tv at the mo is reality! I do love all the pregnancy/childbirth ones though, one born every minute was my fave- much more realistic than some of the American ones smile

Popinda Fri 08-Jun-12 23:40:09

Queen- I agree! Many of the american reality shows are a bit hmm. But still watch them. I do too like all pg related shows! I loved one born every minute! Watched it religiously every week. grin I love the bit when the baby was born and everyone got so emotional! Especially dads! Always imagined that one day is going to be me and my dh will be crying like a baby when he sees are dc for the first time! smile I know that's a bit silly. blush

alwyn Sat 09-Jun-12 00:29:38

I enjoyed OBEM because they filmed it at my local mat unit. Gave me an inkling of what i might experience (eventually)!

DulcetMoans Sat 09-Jun-12 08:07:30

I'll start the poas party updates then ...... BFN! But it was nice to be a part of the event. Haha.

Alwyn - the first two were at my local too! Then they moved it to Leeds, but I still watched it.

Agree with you that the US ones are rubbish. So over dramatised! Their one born every minute just isn't as honest as ours. It's all about the drama.

Oh thats good alwyn - all the midwives seemed lovely!

pop thats not silly at all!

dulcet sorry about bfn, when are you due af?

My update - took another test, still faint line but possibly slightly darker than yesterday? Still not dark enough for me to accept as a bfp though, going to have to wait a bit longer methinks!

Pinkie29 Sat 09-Jun-12 09:07:19

Queen sounds good!! Try wait till Monday?

KickTheGuru Sat 09-Jun-12 09:41:04

BFN here too

But I swear all my rubbish symptoms are from a severe allergy reaction. The thing is that when i wake up with a blocked nose and its all blood, i turn into a mouth breather. That dries my mouth out and i get thirsty .

If i didn't have the blood blocked nose, i would doubt it...

NicolaHazel Sat 09-Jun-12 09:49:42

BFN here too! Not exactly a surprise though.

Looking promising for Queen though. :-)

redstrawberry Sat 09-Jun-12 10:13:18

Nicola it might still be early days for you if you are testing end of month?

Kicking how many dpo are you? Still early if you sue next week

redstrawberry Sat 09-Jun-12 10:13:39

Due! Not sue

Sorry to hear about the BFNs but agree that its still early yet.

There's now a photo of my 'line' on my profile, see what you all think?! I think I'm 10dpo today btw.

EchoDragon Sat 09-Jun-12 10:24:59

Well Queen the photo isn't uber clear. But I would say it was a faint BFP. Congratulations.

Popinda Sat 09-Jun-12 10:25:34

Bfn here too, but I haven't even ov this cycle yet, so no surprise there! smile just wanted to be in the poas club! grin and I got over 30 Internet cheep test at home. Secretly hoping wont need them after this month! smile
Def looking promising for queen! I read in one of the conception books ( what to expect before you expecting) that faint line is a positive! As only a pg hormone can produce that line! Have you tried clear blue digital? When was/is your af due? Sorry if you already said that earlier! So much going on here, can't remember everything. blush

milocuckoomitten Sat 09-Jun-12 10:27:16

Hi, I've just posted on first time frolickers but then found this thread too.
I was trying for a while but had a bad year last year so stopped, this year have decided to have a fresh start. Not been trying but not been not trying for the last couple of months.
Have long cycles 33-36 days so thinking of using ov sticks to find out when I am oving. Had blood tests and ultrasound last year but all fine and think it was stress stopping me conceiving.
Since I've spent a while distancing myself from ttc I feel a bit out of it, can anyone tell me what I should be doing as far as supplements, diet etc?

Popinda Sat 09-Jun-12 10:27:39

Queen - I can't view your profile?!

pop just click on my name on any post I've made.

thanks echo the photo isn't the best quality, it went a bit blurry in between being uploaded from my phone. But it pretty much looks like that in RL.

Welcome milo the best advice anyone can give you (ie *kicktheguru smile) is to have sex every other day all the way through your cycle to maximise your chances.

KickTheGuru Sat 09-Jun-12 10:33:43

Pop - they lie smile

A faint line can also be an evap line. Not every line is a positive

echo - what did my virtual test say? Did you see the dance?

I have no idea when or if i oved. I just know i should be due on the 14th June

NicolaHazel Sat 09-Jun-12 10:36:34

Hi milo :-)

And I know, red,

NicolaHazel Sat 09-Jun-12 10:37:52

Oops...wrong button!

I just wanted in on the POAS party!

CD 19 now.

Popinda Sat 09-Jun-12 10:46:33

Queen - tried that. Not working. Maybe because I'm on my phone?

DulcetMoans Sat 09-Jun-12 10:47:15

Queen - due in about a week I think. I haven't really got it mapped out. Congrats on your faint though, hope it turns bfp soon!!

So there weren't really any surprises for the rest us all then? Haha. Oh well, more luck to us all later in the month.

alwyn Sat 09-Jun-12 10:51:30

I did an OV test yesterday - you can tell I've never done one before!! Was so nervous that I'd done it wrong and wasted it!

But yeah, neg. Not surprising given I was only CD8. Will try again today. Got some internet cheapies coming soon so will be able to pee away!!

Maclairey Sat 09-Jun-12 10:59:13

Well that's a BFN from me too. I guess I just wait out ERTD.

Let's hopes its a big congrats to Queen.

Off to B&Q now to buy stuff to take my mind off babies. I worry about myself sometimes smile

alwyn Sat 09-Jun-12 11:01:55

Maclairey are you still on the longest cycle known to man??

Ooh I didn't notice the new thread.

Kick, hopefully the docs will figure it out soon.

Queen - that definitely looks promising. Is it pink? Apparently evap lines are grey, if it has colour then it's a real line. I refused to believe mine was really a line till I took the clearblue test.

alwyn I will be going to Reading festival when I am around 20 weeks. Hopefully I will have an obvious bump by then so people will avoid trampling me in the moshpit grin. Am a bit worried about constantly needing to wee.

Sorry the rest of you didn't get your BFPs (yet)

bugsy will you be going to Reading for the whole weekend? My DH has tickets for V festival the week before but not sure whether to go or not if I turn out to be preg, would be around 12wks then? Yes the line is pink but really faint. I don't really believe it either. I keep saying I'm going to wait but might be tempted to go and get a cb later.

alwyn how long is your cycle usually? I'm normally a 30 dayer, if I'm defo pg then I think I would have conceived around cd15-ish. Saying that though it is completely different for everyone!

KickTheGuru Sat 09-Jun-12 11:27:52

Queenie when was af due? Same day as me?

Well Queen I am no expert, and it's very early days, but I think congratulations could well be in order [flowers].

I think you get two clearblues in the box so you could do one tomorrow morning, and save the other?

Yes I'm going for the whole weekend. It's up to you but I'm not planning on putting my life on hold while I'm up the duff. Obviously I have no idea how my pregnancy will go, but for now I will assume that I will be fit and healthy until proven otherwise. I'll just make a few concessions eg. an inflatable mattress to sleep on.

oops, meant thanks

Due on Wednesday kick so still 4 days early yet. If Wednesday comes and goes with no af then I may start to believe it then.

Thanks bugsy I really hope so. I think I'll see how I go but I used to love drinking copious amounts of beer at festivals so would have to skip that! I've never been to V festival, was always more of a Leeds fest kind of girl, so no idea if the crowds get as manic or not, V is a lot more 'poppy' than the rockier crowds who go to Leeds/Reading, so I can imagine much more of a family type atmosphere? No idea though!

NicolaHazel Sat 09-Jun-12 11:46:20

V was as manic as Leeds, IMO! Not sure I'd be heading into the pit if pregnant anyway...but that's just me. :-)

And I know what you mean about festivals and beer going hand in hand!

Pinkie29 Sat 09-Jun-12 12:03:11

Queen boots were doing two cb digitals for £10.99 a few days ago cheapest I found but only done one once I'd had a few positives

I think I may nip to Boots in a bit pinkie - added more pics to my profile as just tested again! Were your lines anything like mine?

How can I have a festival with no beer nicola?!

DulcetMoans Sat 09-Jun-12 12:16:49

Queen - you'll have to pour your water into the cardboard pint glass! We normally go to IOW festival but not this year. I'd probably still go if I was pregnant though. Maybe treat myself to a caravan if I felt special!

NicolaHazel Sat 09-Jun-12 12:18:08

I have no idea, Queen! Challenging indeed!

Ooh...yes, go to Boots. Very exciting for all of us!

Pinkie29 Sat 09-Jun-12 12:49:03

Queen the must recent one looks darker than my test at 12dpo grin I was trying to upload so you can compare but am on my phone so don't think it's possible! Will try later on laptop

haha love the idea of drinking water out of the cardboard pint glass grin

DH is going to pick me up a digital test, he'll be home in a few hours. He said he'll pop to Tesco to buy it, I remember seeing a pack of two Tesco digital tests for about 7 quid, anyone had any experience of these? Or do you think I should stick with the CB?

Thanks pinkie I love looking at pics of lines so can't wait to see yours blush

alwyn Sat 09-Jun-12 13:02:33

queen usually bang on 28 days but then this is my first cycle off the pill, so no idea of what it might settle down to!

Pinkie29 Sat 09-Jun-12 13:12:36

Oh and we dtd this morning for the first time since finding out! I was like a nervous teenager! Dp said we don't have to if I'd rather not and assured me his willy wouldn't get near my little poppy seed (I've been calling her poppy) and clearly decided its a girl already! All went well tho weren't as ahem rigorous as usual!

He's been with a couple of pg girls before (I find that odd!)

NicolaHazel Sat 09-Jun-12 13:15:32

I'm in the same boat, alwyn. First cycle off the pill / injection. Used to have spot on 28 day cycles many moons ago, but no idea what will happen now.

CD19 now, so heading towards knowing, I suppose. I could do without all the lady pain / twinges I've been suffering though!

KickTheGuru Sat 09-Jun-12 13:33:09

My DH was so cute over December when we thought we were pg. He needed a lot of proof before he believed that DTD was safe.

Hence why I know smile

Newbie2 Sat 09-Jun-12 14:02:46

Nicola - I'm pretty close to you in days.. I'm on CD 27 now. FX something happens soon for both us!

alwyn Sat 09-Jun-12 14:27:28

I'm 10 days behind you nicola. CD9 today. No OV yet. Will keep POAS until it drives me insane grin

Newbie2 Sat 09-Jun-12 14:34:24

Good luck alwyn smile

alwyn Sat 09-Jun-12 14:43:45

Thanks newbie!

Newbie2 Sat 09-Jun-12 14:44:15

Has anyone used ov sticks for a full cycle and had nothing show up? So frustrating!

Maclairey Sat 09-Jun-12 15:08:44

Afternoon all, must say my garden looks quite pretty now.

Sadly Alwyn I am still on the longest cycle known to man. 49 days and counting. Clearly my body has forgotten what to do. I hope the rest of you on your first cycle after the pill have more luck than me.

Newbie2 Sat 09-Jun-12 15:17:51

Maclairey - aww that sounds like a really long wait. sad Have you managed to work out your OV days yet? I'll keep my fx crossed for you!

EchoDragon Sat 09-Jun-12 15:26:20

kick my virtual test was of course positive!

Actually I think I hold the record for the longest cycle ever. 51 days and counting. Sorry to steal your thunder Alwyn.

Maclairey Sat 09-Jun-12 15:31:07

Hi Newbie

No I haven't. I thought I would just take the relaxed approach for the first cycle. I guess I didnt really expect it to be this long. I dont remember my cycles before the pill either do that doesn't help. I have had the occasional twinge but not much of anything else. I don't know whether I have ovulated or not sad It's the not knowing what's going on that's bothering me. If EDTD just turned up then at least I could start with the CBFM and try and pinpoint ovulation (if any).

I am beginning to think that maybe I have "missed" my first period because my body is still trying to figure what to do. Maybe the build up of hormones caused my body not to remember to ovulate and that's what I am waiting for. Who knows, it's a guessing game really.

Frustrating though.

Maclairey Sat 09-Jun-12 15:32:45

Hey Echo you are 2 days ahead of me. Are you frustrated as well?

NicolaHazel Sat 09-Jun-12 15:51:26

Sounds like there's a few of us first cyclers :-)

I've had loads of twinges / pain since coming off contraception. Not sure if that's good or bad?! :-/

I'm curious as to what my body will do next. Physically feeling quite pre-menstrual today. Hmmm!

Oh I hope that all of your bodies settle down after pill/injection soon so you all get more of an idea of your cycles. Won't be too long hopefully smile

I just got a digital test and tested -BFP!!!! I can't believe it! I'm in shock, DH is walking around with a soppy smile on his face. Today is the best day ever!! grin

NicolaHazel Sat 09-Jun-12 16:13:17

I am SO pleased for you Queen! Did it give you how much, or just a yes? :-)

EchoDragon Sat 09-Jun-12 16:16:55

Alwyn i'm so frustrated. But didn't expect things to just get back to normal. I did miss periods when using contraception and did have the odd long cycle. I know there us no more real point testing as body is getting back to normal.

Nicola like you said have felt twinges and stuff so things seem to be getting back to normal.

I just want AF so I can have a proper first cycle totally contraceptive free. I want a baby of my own! I reserve the right to stripe until I get one!

Would have gone mad without all you lovely ladies tho.

EchoDragon Sat 09-Jun-12 16:18:01

Damn you autocorrect meant strop.

DulcetMoans Sat 09-Jun-12 16:21:55

Congrats Queen! What a productive thread this has been!

nicola it just said 'pregnant', wasn't the type with a conception indicator. I want one of those now though, can't seem to satisfy my poas addiction grin

thank you dulcet!

NicolaHazel Sat 09-Jun-12 16:24:25

I don't want AF, I want a first month baby like my mum managed both times!

Doubt it will happen though as she hadn't had 17.5 years of contraception prior!

Maclairey Sat 09-Jun-12 16:27:00

Many congrats Queen so pleased for you.

I know how you feel Nicola. My mum fell pregnant on the pill....3 times!!

Pinkie29 Sat 09-Jun-12 16:31:26

Queen gringringringrin

Congrats!!! xx

NicolaHazel Sat 09-Jun-12 16:31:26

Bloody hell, Maclairey, that's amazing! Clearly not her type of contraception!

Queen...send DH out for another test! What cycle number was this?

Are these threads the most productive ever?!

EchoDragon Sat 09-Jun-12 16:31:51

gringringringringrin Queen I'm so pleased for you. Have you had any symptoms yet?

Another BFP this thread is the place to stick around.

Oh you never know nicola - either way I bet it won't be long for you.

Thanks maclairey smile

As fate would have it I've got a new and unused box of pregnacare conception tablets that I was going to start on next week along with some cheapo ov tests. First to say they want them can have them smile

NicolaHazel Sat 09-Jun-12 16:33:49

Yes please Queen!

NicolaHazel Sat 09-Jun-12 16:34:54

And I hope so, but reading all your stories makes me far more cautious and pessimistic than I was. :-/

thank you echo grin I guess they must be symptoms now as the test has confirmed it grin so sore boobs, tired, hungry, a bit emotional (cried in work yesterday for no reason whatsoever, think somebody spoke to me in a slightly 'mean' way or something! So unlike me though, I hardly ever cry!), can't really think of anything else at the moment. I guess all of those symptoms could have been pre-af ones as well though, except I'm usually more moody than emotional pre-af haha!

no problem nicola, inbox me your address and I'll send them out to you smile

Maclairey Sat 09-Jun-12 16:38:00

It definitely seems to be a productive thread I am certainly sticking around.

I know Nicola that's what I thought, it does make me wonder that in 10+ years I have never had an "accident". I start stressing that maybe I am infertile.

Queen how many cycles are you? Were you on the pill before?

Popinda Sat 09-Jun-12 16:54:58

Congratulations queen! gringringrin so happy for you!!! You still can use your preconception pregnant care tablets. Its says on the packet that you can keep using them even when you get pg. the vitamins content is very similar as in already pregnant ones, if you want the ones with omega 3, fish oil, just buy it separately as it is much much cheaper. Believe me, I have spent hours in boots comparing all the different pregnancy vitamins and possible combinations. grin obviously got too much time on my hands! grin

maclairey I haven't been on the pill for years so had regular cycles for a long time now. Having said that it still took us over a year to conceive! Got there in the end though as will all of you ladies.

Thanks pop smile Its the conception vitamins I've got not the pregnant ones, I hadn't started taking them yet so won't bother starting, will either just carry on with the folic acid or might buy pregnant vitamins.

Pinkie29 Sat 09-Jun-12 17:47:49

I've added my pics queen, not that you need to compare now grin

alwyn Sat 09-Jun-12 17:59:31

I'm just taking the folic acid at the moment. I have a fairly balanced diet with lots of leafy greens anyway, so guess I'm getting most of what I need from that. Might change my mind it it starts to take ages though grin

pinkie it won't let me click on your name, have you made your profile public?

Popinda Sat 09-Jun-12 18:28:12

Queen - sorry I did mean the conception vitamin, you still can take them even if you pregnant. the are almost the same as the pregnant ones, I have compared them all. smile just buy a omega 3 fish oil separately and it will be the same. In fact it would be exactly the same as if you were going to buy the most expensive pregnant care max pills. they are like £20 for a month supply. combination of your conception pills and omega 3 pills you will get the same effect, just much cheaper. In fact I just compared them again online and the conception ones have higher dosage of some vitamins. Its up to you, this is just a suggestion, but I would def do it that way otherwise I would bankrupt before I even have a baby. grin

DulcetMoans Sat 09-Jun-12 18:42:34

I like coming in to happy messages, yay! This is a happy place. Hope it continues that way.

Don't give up hope Nicola, it's only the start of the month. Even if it wasnt this cycle, the next one isn't far behind.

KickTheGuru Sat 09-Jun-12 18:42:58

Queenie - am thrilled for you. Have a little happiness tear running down me ugly mug when you posted about the digital test and your DH walking around with a soppy smile.

Am really, really happy for you mate. Can't tell you mate: ) xxx

NicolaHazel Sat 09-Jun-12 18:55:07

Oh, I haven't given up hope, Dulcet, I'm just very impatient and have a hugely fertile family!

I have no right to be upset yet as first cycle is rare for anyone. I'd just rather not have the constant aches and pains I'm getting!

Maclairey Sat 09-Jun-12 19:00:26

Right DH has gone out so I plan to order a pizza, have a glass of wine and have control of the tv. No football yay!!! Think I even have an episode or 2 of one born every minute that I havent watched yet.

Oh dear, the things that make me happy these days smile

Aww thank you so much kick smile I really hope you get your BFP soon, can't tell you how much you deserve it.

maclairey my DH has had to go out too on a pre-arranged night with the lads (so no celebrating for us I'm afraid) - so my night in will be similar to yours, minus the wine! But do you know what, I can't think of anything I'd rather do more! grin

DulcetMoans Sat 09-Jun-12 19:20:53

Aw, I understand Nicola but I think what I am learning here is this TTC malaky is all about patience. It is disappointing but then you can just be hopeful for next month.

Wish I had a football free evening ladies. Instead I have managed to get DP to wash up in between matches but I will have to listen to the cheers and sighs for the next few weeks!

KickTheGuru Sat 09-Jun-12 19:23:51

Queenie - look at baby goodies online grin

redstrawberry Sat 09-Jun-12 19:41:21

Congrats again Queen it must be a fab day for you smile
I'm really really happy for you...glad you are sticking around longer.

nicola my mum was very fertile too - first month both times. Just wish some of her luck rubs off on me soon

Pinkie29 Sat 09-Jun-12 19:45:11

Sorted now queenie!

Big hugs to you ladies having a hard time today <hugs> try and stay positive it WILL happen

Popinda Sat 09-Jun-12 19:59:40

Pinkie - just looked at your profile to checked on your bfp and I must say you did enough tests to make sure it's positive! So exciting! gringrin you could share some of them with us. grin

DulcetMoans Sat 09-Jun-12 20:04:48

Pregnant ladies - asda has some juices that are cocktails without the alcohol at the moment. Im currently drinking a strawberry daiquiri, it's pretty tasty! If you fancy something different that feels naughty over the 9 mnths then it could be a option.

That's the best tip I can offer! Haha.

MissMedusa Sat 09-Jun-12 20:21:27

Congrats Queen!

MissMedusa Sat 09-Jun-12 20:24:10

In other (fascinating tmi) news this this is my first month using Evening Primrose and my preliminary report is lots of goop. No EWCM as of yet but it's too early for that (CD10) but lots of goop nonetheless.

alwyn Sat 09-Jun-12 20:26:58

All information is worth having medusa!!

DulcetMoans Sat 09-Jun-12 20:30:38

I know you aren't supposed to read the test after a certain period of time but just seen it in the bin with a faint line on it. Defo wasn't there this morning. Why would it change? Trying not to think about it but have to ask!

KickTheGuru Sat 09-Jun-12 20:30:57

My DH said he noticed lots more cm

good to help the swimmers get up there if your DTD lots

Popinda Sat 09-Jun-12 20:43:58

Is evening primrose supposed to enhanced your fertility? Sorry if silly question, but have no idea what evening primrose is for and some other things that you ladies mentioned way back. blush

Maclairey Sat 09-Jun-12 21:10:31

Ah Queen it's a shame that you cant celebrate with DH tonight but I would be doing exactly as kick suggested, online "research" for baby goodies.

Just watched the last episode of OBEM from the most recent season and then the what happens next episode. Feeling suitably broody now. Mind you I do love that program and could quite happily watch it all evening. But as I have run out I am now watching Gavin & Stacey re-runs.

Maclairey Sat 09-Jun-12 21:14:19

Popinda I think EPO is supposed to increase EWCM. I haven't tried it but I think you are meant to take it from cd1 until ovulation. I don't think it actually increases fertility though.

I am wondering whether i should take anything next cycle. I am a bit worried about having 50+ day cycles all the time. Was contemplating Agnus Castus but can't seem to find much info about it except that it works really well for some and makes things worse for others.

Popinda Sat 09-Jun-12 21:18:18

Maclairey - thanks. I think Pinkie was taking something to shorten her cycles. Ask her.

KickTheGuru Sat 09-Jun-12 21:20:54

EPO just increases cm. Which helps sperm swim up and acts like ewcm.

It works because we have totally experienced it smile

KickTheGuru Sat 09-Jun-12 21:21:49

Vitex shortens your cycles smile

alwyn Sat 09-Jun-12 21:22:40

As in, it definitely increases cm smile

KickTheGuru Sat 09-Jun-12 21:23:03

Which is the same as that angus stuff

Pinkie29 Sat 09-Jun-12 21:23:43

Pop I've done loads more I still can't believe it smile

Maclairey I took 3000mg epo and 2000mg Vitex up to ovulation this cycle. The vitex works to regulate the cycle somehow? Just google Vitex or Angus Castus and you'll get plenty of info. This was the first time I'd used it and my smiley appeared on cd16 it was cd28 the month before and my cycles have varied from 34 - 56 in the past

Maclairey Sat 09-Jun-12 21:43:07

Thanks Pinkie that's really helpful. I am just a bit worried because I don't know when I ovulate. I was planning on using the CBFM next month to try and pinpoint ovulation but I am not sure that will definitely work. I am also not sure whether to try and let things sort themselves out naturally for a couple of months. So many things to think about but I don't think I can handle another cycle as long as this one has been.

Pinkie did you use vitex and EPO straight away after coming off the pill?

alwayshopeful13 Sat 09-Jun-12 21:49:26

Hello everyone,

Can I join? I'm new to Mumsnet - just joined this evening having realised it's a a pretty good source of sanity, support and advice when ttc. I guess I'm after a bit of friendly advice about whether there's anything we can try to help our ttc chances.....

We had a mmc at 11 weeks in December 2011 (got pregnant on the 2nd month of trying) and here after 6 months trying and no joy. I know 6 months isn't dire straits (I'm 33 DH 30) but it happened quickly first time so we thought (naively so it seems) that it would be the straightforward enough next time. We've been doing all the obvious things - good diet, lots of exercise, no booze, and lots of you-know-what obv, trying to time things against ov signs and sensible eh (TMI) positions etc. But no joy. It is v frustrating as lots of you know. The monthly game of raised and dashed hopes is so hard, especially when we're trying to talk ourselves into the whole "it will happen when it's right, mother nature will have her way, actually no....for g* sake why doesn't it happen NOW!!"

I've heard mention of a test called AMH - maybe that's something we should look into. I know we're not at the stage where the doc is likely to take us seriously about "having problems conceiving" as it's only 6 months, but if there is an underlying problem, I'd rather know now. And if going private rather than NHS means we'd get tests sooner we probably would. Welcome any thoughts on what we could do... Thank you xxx

alwyn Sat 09-Jun-12 21:52:35

Welcome hopeful!

alwayshopeful13 Sat 09-Jun-12 21:53:47

Thank you alwyn! This seems like a v friendly place :-)

alwyn Sat 09-Jun-12 21:55:18

I'm scared of the rest of MN, TBH!

Maclairey Sat 09-Jun-12 22:00:16

Welcome Hopeful

Can't offer you any advice I am afraid as we are only on our first extremely long and tedious cycle of ttc.

I would say though if it will make you feel better and you are in a position to do it then go and have a fertility mot at a private clinic. I am sorry for your loss but at least you know that you can conceive so maybe try opks or look into a CBFM to pinpoint your peak fertility days.

Good luck to you.

alwayshopeful13 Sat 09-Jun-12 22:08:12

Alwyn - agree with MN does seem like a massive deal such a huge network of info and people but so much useful stuff on here (even if lots of it isn't yet - sadly - relevant to me, but hopefully will be soon!)

Maclairey - your words are so wise, thank you x We're sort of concluding we're better off getting on with the fertility mot even if it brings less than great news....better to know and deal with it. Good luck with your own ttc efforts....sure it will all come good before long, all going well ;-)

Popinda Sat 09-Jun-12 22:18:36

Welcome hopeful! It seems that you are doing all the right things and obviously you can conceive so you shouldn't be worried about your fertility too much. It is just taking longer than you thought. I know this is not much helpful in terms what you should do, but just wanted to say that we are all here (well almost all, some of the lucky ones got BFPs this monthsmile) in the same boat. smile waiting for that second line to appear on hpt. smile

Popinda Sat 09-Jun-12 22:20:36

dulcet just do another test to see if the line will appear again. smile good luck and fx! When is your af due?

Popinda Sat 09-Jun-12 22:22:35

hopeful forgot to say that mn and especially this thread is very addictive. gringrin

Welcome always smile

pinkie I'm posting from my phone at the mo so can't check your photos just yet but will do in the morning after I've tested again (when will this lose it's novelty?!)

kick maclairy I do love browsing baby things online grin but I've done loads of this over the last year or so of ttc, it feels weird now that it's happening! I'm sat here in a bit of a daze tbh.

Pinkie29 Sat 09-Jun-12 22:25:30

Welcome alwayshopeful I echo what Maclairey says if it will make you feel better get the mot smile

Maclairey - no I only started it this cycle, because my cycles were averaging 6 weeks it would have only gave us 8 chances a year at ttc, we somehow managed it cycle 4 but that took 6 months (felt like forever!) I took the epo due to lack of ewcm but believe it also helped greatly with pmt, they say you shod stop epo after ov as it can/might cause small contractions in the uterus which obv you don't want whilst ttc! I can't remember what the reason for stopping vitex was as there was conflicting info some said carry on others said stop so I just chose to stop.

You could try ov sticks? I think I've been a bit luckier than some catching my lh surge, this month was extremely lucky I got the smiley, cramps and ewcm all within 10hrs! We used conceive plus and put an instead cup in after then winkled/pinkled for a loooong time (it wasn't as regimented as it sounds honest!!)

alwayshopeful13 Sat 09-Jun-12 22:26:48

Thanks Popinda :-) I have 4 days ish (cycle all awry since mc so never totally sure of dates since) and then I can do a HPT again so totally with you in waiting for the second line. Fingers crossed :-)

Pinkie29 Sat 09-Jun-12 22:27:10

Queen I wish I knew I've tested everyday!! This morning the second line appeared straight away even before the control line! When we run out if sticks?!

alwayshopeful13 Sat 09-Jun-12 22:50:07

Pinkie and Maclairey - I know this is a basic question so apols but is there a technical term the experts use for the old "fertility mot"? Like is there something specific I should be asking for or if I go to my GP and ask them to refer me to a consultant or gynae (is that how it works?!) will they just offer some standard tests? Sorry long question....if the answer isn't straightforward ignore me!

Popinda Sat 09-Jun-12 22:53:36

Just researched epo and def getting one tomorrow! Thanks for the tip! smile

Pinkie29 Sat 09-Jun-12 23:04:54

Always - because I'd never been pregnant and had so many symptoms for pcos I went to my gp (turned on the water works male gp works every-time) and they referred me for a scan and said after that if there were any issues it would be blood tests

You could maybe tell him you want to check everything is in working order after your mmc as you've been ttc since with no luck? Sorry to hear about that btw must have been a very tough time for you both sad

My dp went to his gp and exaggerated that we'd been trying over a year with no luck and he's tried in a previous relationship so he referred him to the hospital to give a sample, just saves you a lot of money if you can get referred by your gp instead of going private, have i made any sense at all there?

alwayshopeful13 Sat 09-Jun-12 23:07:08

Pinkie - you make so much sense....totally get your meaning! Like your thinking :-) Thanks so much. Will let you all know how we get on x

Pinkie29 Sat 09-Jun-12 23:09:38

Lol thank you, I'm convinced I have baby brain already tho! Wish you the best of luck smile

alwayshopeful13 Sat 09-Jun-12 23:11:55

PS Pinkie - thanks for your kind words re mmc. It's a cliche but in some ways it's made us stronger than we were though I don't feel like that every month when I get the bfn and feel like all the world's against us. Hey ho. Onwards and upwards to us all!

EchoDragon Sat 09-Jun-12 23:18:09

I always look at baby stuff online. I even have a short list of prams for when I need one.

Hi hopeful welcome. Just to warn you you will end up with an addiction to peeing on sticks. Be it pg or ov.

alwyn Sat 09-Jun-12 23:20:47

My short list of prams is very short. Like, um, one.

And totally chosen on a style point rather than a safety one. Should I be having children???

KickTheGuru Sat 09-Jun-12 23:23:58

I have the prams shortlist too smile

Welcome hopeful. Head to the no symptoms. No Google. No sticks" thread . Trust me it will keep you sane.

Queen and pink - any symptoms yet? grin

alwayshopeful13 Sat 09-Jun-12 23:46:20

Echo - you're so right about the poas addiction. It's been driving me crazy (the wondering and constant overanalysing "oh but it was probably neg because of X or Y, maybe if I wait another day etc etc") - and this probably why the thread kicktheguru suggests sounds so appealing....see you there guru!

kick symptoms!! Its completely mad that thats what they are now!! Very sore and swollen boobs, very tired, feel quite emotional, hungry a lot, thats about it for now though.

What are all the prams you ladies like? I love talking baby stuff. I've had my eye on an icandy pram for a while now smile

pinkie I still have about 15 tests left! This is going to go on for a while I reckon! But looking forward to getting strong lines on the cheapies!

alwyn Sun 10-Jun-12 00:56:03

I want a silver cross one. Have done since being a little girl!

Newbie2 Sun 10-Jun-12 04:21:48

I'm feeling really down this weekend. Three good friends have announced their pregnancies and I should be over the moon (I am) but I am finding it very difficult. I'm starting to feel really stressed and scared that it won't happen so quickly for me as it did for them as my body is showing no signs of returning back to normal post pill. I'm no longer feeling bloated or craving sugary foods like I did last week and my hay fever is so bad I would happily eat a whole pack of packets without worrying because I know I'm not pregnant regardless of what my doctor suggested and on top of it im feeling really tender down there after all the DTD lately and my TTC journey has only just begun sad Sorry to have a big moan but I'm hoping writing it down helps as I've got to some how snap out of it!!!

Newbie2 Sun 10-Jun-12 04:45:59

Just worked out with the help of due date calculator that one of my friends is not being honest when she said that she fell pregnant straight away from coming off the pill because it actually took her 4 months. A relief to know that I'm not that abnormal after all! I know what you're thinking I'm obsessed and insane to beat myself up in cycle's just so easy to stress!!

EchoDragon Sun 10-Jun-12 05:52:18

Aww sorry to hear your feeling down Newbie. TTC is a hugely emotional rollercoaster. I find myself almost in tears sometimes over such silly things this week. Last week I could have cried at my BFN.

We're all in the same boat and are here to hold your hands, offer virtual tissues, chocolate and wine as appropriate. I have several pg friends at the moment. Seems like everyone is pg esp when we're all so desperate for our BFP. Don't be too hard on yourself. When we have our BFP's we'll wonder what all the fuss was about.

EchoDragon Sun 10-Jun-12 05:58:08

Hmm peak wise I love the Icandy, Silver Cross surfer and the ABC. My friend had the ABC I like it cause her 2 end a half year old is still comfy in it. But I just love the Icandy peach it's lush. Seems a lot of people find it too small for a toddler tho. If I fork out that much I want a pram
useable for several years by dragon jnr.

Mr dragon will probably put his foot down at spending so much tho.

EchoDragon Sun 10-Jun-12 05:59:00

Ugh obvs meant pram not peak.

Pinkie29 Sun 10-Jun-12 08:21:14

Hmm I'd say my only symptoms are sore and bigger boobs, raging hunger feeling lethargic a lot and waking up at 05:30 everyday!! Also finding it difficult to nod off! I felt slightly queasy a couple of times yesterday but it went very quickly, other than that just slight cramps and backache

Pinkie29 Sun 10-Jun-12 08:22:16

Oh and I want a Silvercross! Tho dp isn't impressed and they aren't 'built for the modern world' haha

KickTheGuru Sun 10-Jun-12 08:32:15

"only" symptoms?

My hayfever gets worse in the morning. I have had jelly and now sucking on an ice lolly. Jelly is where its at!!

Munching antihistamines and hating all the blood in my nose. Tired and nauseous if i try eat anything remotely dry. Nearly vomited into our bowl of fruit smoothie juice last night.

And no. I am not pregnant. So says internet cheapie i did this morning

Pinkie29 Sun 10-Jun-12 08:42:31

Are they symptoms?!

KickTheGuru Sun 10-Jun-12 08:46:56

Of severe allergic reaction, yes

My heart rate is scaring me

KickTheGuru Sun 10-Jun-12 08:47:35

I meant to put in a smiley face grin

Popinda Sun 10-Jun-12 09:13:57

Re pram: I want Phill and ted one as it can be a double too, save you buying new one, when you have your second dc! grin also they big enough for toddler, even I wouldn't put older kid than 2 and a bit in buggy. gringrin and they are very comfy for child, easy to push and fit on the bus. Only thing is that they take up all you boot in the car and are a bit bulky, but very safe! gringrin

NicolaHazel Sun 10-Jun-12 09:19:25

I've not considered prams yet...think I'll save that!

Queen, did you get my PM? Wasn't sure it worked!

Popinda Sun 10-Jun-12 09:43:32

newbie I'm sorry to hear that you feeling down! I think we all have these days! Hope you better today! smile have some biscuit to make you feel better. smile
A just been looking through my last month chart and can't understand why I did not get pg!sad We dtd a lot especially around what I thought was my ov! sad I'm really worried now! sad

I'm liking the look of the icandy strawberry pram. It looks nice and seems like it would fold up quite small to fit in the boot of my car. I can't wait to go pram testing with my mum (when I finally tell her - too scared to at the mo! blush)

nicola sorry yes I did get your PM, will reply to it later with my details as posting from my phone at the mo and not sure if you can get onto PMs from the Talk app. I'll drop that stuff at the post office for you if I can get there in time after work this week, if not then will do it Saturday morning if thats ok with you?

oh pinkie forgot to say, I did manage to have a quick look at your testing photos late on last night, love them grin I've tested again this morning and the line is still there but no darker than yesterday yet. If I hadn't done the digital I probably still wouldn't believe it confused

NicolaHazel Sun 10-Jun-12 09:50:02

Awww...*Newbie*, sorry you're so down. :-(

The problem with TTC is that we are all so desperate keen to be mums that we want it to happen NOW. And the odds say it won't.

Then there is the totally natural feeling of jealousy at other people. We ALL feel it and all understand what you mean.

All we can do is keep DTD and supporting each other until we see that second line. (Hugs.)

NicolaHazel Sun 10-Jun-12 09:52:34

Hi Queen :-)

Any time, don't worry about it...only if it's not taking you out of your way.

I love how we all spend time on here on our phones...sneaky!

pop sometimes you can dtd around ov but still just be unlucky, I was unlucky for over a year! but by dtd often right the way through the month you are maximising your chances of there being swimmers there to meet the egg at the right time. What I'm trying to say is don't be worried, it was your first month trying so would have been really lucky to conceive straight away. FX that you get your BFP soon smile

Pinkie29 Sun 10-Jun-12 09:52:37

Crikey guru take it easy! Docs for you maybe??

No not at all nicola there is a post office just around the corner from me, its just catching it in time after work smile

Yep, love a bit of sneaky MNing grin

Newbie2 Sun 10-Jun-12 10:14:00

Thank you Echo, Popinda and Nicola for your kind words. It is comforting to know I'm not alone and my feelings are normal. I'm coming to grips with the realities of TTC today and feel more excepting that I have to give it time.

Oh I started using Conceive Plus lub yesterday. For anyone thinking about buying it I would recommend and DH likes it. It also claims to make the wiggly ones have a nicer environment to swim in due to the calcium'll have to look it up for the correct science behind it!

KickTheGuru Sun 10-Jun-12 10:15:00

Went to the doc on Friday and she ordered all the tests.

Didn't seem too concerned and she picked up the tachycardia and hand tremors...

Newbie2 Sun 10-Jun-12 10:20:17

Kick Sorry your feeling so poorly. Sounds like you're having a t

Newbie2 Sun 10-Jun-12 10:28:26

Oops sorry I pressed send to quickly Kick...sounds like you're having a tough time and hopefully the results of your tests come around quickly to put your mind at ease x

KickTheGuru Sun 10-Jun-12 10:32:54

Thanks newbie. Apparently its hard to pick up thyroid problems when pregnant and since the tests have to be done on cd 2, i guess it means something is telling me its yet another month of bfn

Popinda Sun 10-Jun-12 10:33:40

queen - thanks for your support! The reasonable part of me know all that, but the other me wants me to get pg strait away and no explanation is good enough!! sad

Popinda Sun 10-Jun-12 10:41:13

newbie I'm going to try conceive plus next month if I get bfn this month. Pinkie already recommended so def want to try now everyone saying its good. Also going to buy epo today! With all this additional help for the swimmers to get where they suppose to get, I'll be so fertile I end up having triplets! gringrin like that thought! grin The things we do to conceive. wink hmm

Popinda Sun 10-Jun-12 10:42:27

Forgot to ask, where did you get it from? Mean the conceive plus.

Newbie2 Sun 10-Jun-12 10:45:16

Queen I'm glad to hear you say that point of DTD often and right the way through the cycle but I can't get my head around why 'they' say try every other day during the whole cycle because I didn't think you could ovulate more then once or twice. I am guessing it's a good theory for people who don't know when they ovulate like me? I feel like I missed this part out in biology smile

Newbie2 Sun 10-Jun-12 10:50:23

Popinda I have to admit I got desperate yesterday and paid full price in Boots sad Buy it from Amazon as its a few pounds cheaper. I brought the tube rather then the applicators so that DH could use it too. The applicators you put in 15mins before DTD. I say 'applicator' but it's just a syringe type looking thing that helps you put the lub in internally.

Yes I'm also going to buy some EPO smile

newbie - kick will be able to give you a better answer than I can, but basically OV differs for everyone plus when you get that smiley on your OV stick it can still be several days before you release the egg. Having sex regularly all month means that theres always going to be swimmers there waiting no matter when the egg is released. Also if you usually OV at say day 14, things like stress can push OV back, so if you stop dtd too early you can miss it altogether. The best thing to do is keep shagging all month just in case! I think the every other day thing is so the swimmers get chance to recoup in between. Hope this helps smile

NicolaHazel Sun 10-Jun-12 11:01:51

We DTD regularly, but with the best will in the world it won't be every other day! Too tired from work :-(

Hoping twice at the weekend and once mid week will keep me topped up enough, as that's normal for us. Though we missed yesterday, so went from CD17 to CD20. Hope that hasn't screwed things up :-/

Popinda Sun 10-Jun-12 11:16:27

newbie , pinkie which fertility cream did you get? Conceive plus or pre-seed fertility? Just went on amazon and found thus 2 so a bit confused now. confused

Newbie2 Sun 10-Jun-12 11:16:56

Queen that does help thank you. Newbie don't worry I'm not managing every other day either so I think that's quite normal. We can only do what we can do. No point us stressing about that too smile

Newbie2 Sun 10-Jun-12 11:40:25

Pop Conceive plus ;)

Newbie2 Sun 10-Jun-12 11:42:41

Hah I'm loosing the plot! That message above was meant for Nicola...not myself dah!

NicolaHazel Sun 10-Jun-12 12:05:23

Ha ha Newbie, that is true.

We generally DTD quite regularly, so I suppose we shouldn't really have to up our game too much as I should almost always have a few lurking swimmers if nothing else.

But, I do want to make sure I give us the best chance to conceive too.

No stressing should be our mantra. 'Key ring. Key ring. Key ring!'

Pinkie29 Sun 10-Jun-12 12:24:40

I used conceive plus bought it in boots for about £11 was cheaper than amazon and eBay at the time

Newbie2 Sun 10-Jun-12 13:19:38

Pinkie Did you use the applicator version? I think that was £11 and the tube was £15

Pinkie29 Sun 10-Jun-12 13:51:22

Yeah I wasn't keen in the idea of the syringe so opted for the one use applicators think you get 8 in a pack

Maclairey Sun 10-Jun-12 14:55:18

So i have just bought some EPO and some starflower oil. Not sure how much of each I should take? Also, if I am not sure on when I ovulate should I just take it cd1-10 or something? That is of course if AF EVER TURNS UP!!!

redstrawberry Sun 10-Jun-12 14:59:05

I have bought some EPO too smile
I might get Conceive plus seeing all the posts on here. If it doesn't work out this month I want to give it the best chance next month.

Nicola and Newbie same here - working long hours, DH away from home, busy weekends = no chance of EOD sex. Just hoping the infrequent humpage leaves some surviving swimmers in place.

I am actually doing well this month with the ttc malarkey. Haven't thought about being pregnant for at least 7 hours hmm then I found my link to MN smile

alwyn Sun 10-Jun-12 14:59:06

What does starflower oil do?

Maclairey Sun 10-Jun-12 15:09:20

I think starflower oil is also good for hormone balancing and also for PMS. I am pretty sure that after a 50+ day cycle the PMS is going to be horrific.

Having said that though I can't start taking it yet so who knows. I may even be spouting a load of rubbish.

Feeling very weird today, a bit spaced out and not altogether with it.

Newbie2 Sun 10-Jun-12 15:09:40

Red your post made me laugh... It's a real challenge not to think about pregnancy now! I distracted myself by cleaning and managed 20mins until I found the book 'pregnancy for dummies' that my sister passed onto me many moons ago.

I think I'm going to start using EPO whenever AF turns up too.

alwyn Sun 10-Jun-12 15:11:57

I've just seen that starflower oil and EPO are v similar. Will consider them if this cycle is a no-go.

Newbie2 Sun 10-Jun-12 19:32:15

After saying I have no pms this morning Ive had a weird tightening sensation in my stomach all day confused It feels like have been doing too many sit ups and my stomach is sore when I poke it. I hope this isn't the first signs of a very bad AF on its way sad

NicolaHazel Sun 10-Jun-12 19:37:37

I've had shocking stomach / lady part pain almost all month, Newbie...not sure why, but I'm heartily sick of it now. :-/

Newbie2 Sun 10-Jun-12 19:42:35

Nicola is this the wakening of our ovaries! I did another OV test tonight incase the pain was linked to that...but still nothing hmm

alwyn Sun 10-Jun-12 19:42:57

Does anyone get - ahem - excess wind as a sign of OV?

Newbie2 Sun 10-Jun-12 20:38:13

alwyn not sure. FX someone on here has a better answer for you!

NicolaHazel Sun 10-Jun-12 20:40:47

I have no idea, Newbie, but I hope that's what it is! Will be worth the pain if so.

I suppose suppressing ovulation for 17.5 years will lead to some pain on awakening! :-(

nicola I've had stomach pains and pain ahem, down there most of today too so defo hormone related methinks! smile

Sorry alwyn can't help with that one I'm afraid! grin

NicolaHazel Sun 10-Jun-12 22:35:26

Being a woman seems to come with more than its fair share of aches and pains.

Hormones have A LOT to answer for! :-/

Popinda Sun 10-Jun-12 23:02:30

Nicola - I agree! So not fair! smile
Talking about ov pain, I think I am ov and we dtd tonight so being very hopeful. gringrin fx
I got a bit of question blush how stretchy are male swimmers? blushblushblush is it like ewcm?

Newbie2 Sun 10-Jun-12 23:07:45

I have now taken 1 paracetamol as I'm pretty convinced these are pms pains! Sods law AF will arrive tmz when my CBFM doesn't arrive from Amazon until Thursday...stamping feet!

NicolaHazel Sun 10-Jun-12 23:11:11

Where in your cycle are you, Newbie?

Newbie2 Mon 11-Jun-12 06:24:53

Nicola Cd 29

NicolaHazel Mon 11-Jun-12 06:32:40

Ah, maybe then. CD21 for me, but pain all the way through :-(

Newbie2 Mon 11-Jun-12 06:38:15

Strange. The pains only started for me yesterday.

NicolaHazel Mon 11-Jun-12 06:58:08

Tell me about it! They vary a bit, alternating between specific ovary pain and a generalised dull ache, but they've been ever present since about CD9 (so I got a few days' grace after bad AF cramps!).

Newbie2 Mon 11-Jun-12 07:13:22

I can only think that it's good signs and means you're now wide awake! Which is where you want to be! Hang in there smile

Newbie2 Mon 11-Jun-12 07:14:38

Although saying that if it gets too much maybe book a Gp appt?

NicolaHazel Mon 11-Jun-12 07:21:25

I hope you're right!

And it isn't unbearable, just annoying really. But I will do, definitely.

Newbie2 Mon 11-Jun-12 08:21:54

Cramps have returned but still no sign of AF hmm

redstrawberry Mon 11-Jun-12 09:03:00

Newbie when was AF due?

Alwyn ahem...yes excess wind and bloating are flagged on my app on the last few days of EWCM, which I guess is the end of OV.

TMI alert blush

CM seems to have dried up and turned sticky....which I guess means the end of OV for me. I think this month if I was to go by CM behavior I OV very early in my cycle - between CD10 and CD12. This means the previous month I had wrongly assumed I OV mid to late in my cycle.

DTD on fri and sun....but missed the whole week during OV sad

NicolaHazel Mon 11-Jun-12 09:25:41

Hmmm...right ovary pain and more EWCM today.

What IS my body up to?!

Newbie2 Mon 11-Jun-12 09:44:09

Red I'm not sure because this is my first cycle.
Lots of times people say they were out on OV judgement so fx you've still caught it?! There might be a small glimmer of hope x

Newbie That's sounds like ovo signs!? Have you got a OV stick to test it out?

Newbie2 Mon 11-Jun-12 09:45:41

Oh I've done it again. I meant Nicola

Newbie2 Mon 11-Jun-12 09:46:35

red what phone app are you using?

NicolaHazel Mon 11-Jun-12 09:55:51

Ha ha...never mind Newbie.

Thing is, I already had this on CD9! And you can't ovulate twice in one cycle, so god knows what's going on!

No sticks yet though as I thought it wasn't worth it on month one post-pill.

redstrawberry Mon 11-Jun-12 10:21:47

What CD are you on today nicola? EWCM doesn't necessarily mean OV. It just means you are very fertile during these days. EWCM helps the soldiers swim and survive.

I try to predict OV when my CM dries up - as in you are meant to dry up after OV and thats just what's happened. I had very fertile EWCM for 5 days shock and now nothing - zilch. So I guess I OVed at some point towards the end of those 5 days.

newbie I am using Period Tracker. I think there's Fertility Friend as well. But I have always used Period Tracker - its got friendly graphics.

Newbie2 Mon 11-Jun-12 10:23:52

Nicola very wise decision! I've spent too much on sticks as I didn't know you could get them so cheap on amazon! Also I didn't know that you could ovulate first two weeks of cycle so I only started testing on day 14...dumb dumb me smile

Nicola I've got a load of spare ov sticks which I'll send to you with the pregnacare tabs.

newbie there's a free app called iperiod that I used to track cycles, you can add as much or as little info as you like.

red just because you had the ewcm you may have released the egg 24hrs or more later so you may have still caught it! Hope so smile

Popinda Mon 11-Jun-12 10:48:20

I don't think I ever had a proper ewcm! I only seem to have only dry discharge! Hope this doesn't mean I don't ov! But I do get, what I think are ov pains!
I went to shop and got epo now! Hope that's going to help with ewcm! pinkie if I remember correctly you said you took 1000mg a day? But but on the box it say to take 3000mg a day? confused I am confused now and don't know what to do?!confused any suggestions? smile

NicolaHazel Mon 11-Jun-12 10:49:55

Hi Red, CD21.

Had exactly the same pain / EWCM CD9, left ovary!

DTD yesterday, so if fertile should catch it!

NicolaHazel Mon 11-Jun-12 10:50:33

Oh, and thanks, Queen. :-)

Pinkie29 Mon 11-Jun-12 10:54:03

pop I took 3000mg epo a day plus 2000mg Vitex

No problem nicola but hoping you won't need them wink

redstrawberry Mon 11-Jun-12 11:22:25

Pinkie did you start EPO on CD1 or after AF finishes?

Thanks queen trying to remain hopeful and positive smile
How you feeling today? More early PG symptoms?

Newbie2 Mon 11-Jun-12 11:31:40

Queen thanks for the tip. Oh the IPeriod app needs two AF dates so I'll have to hold off on that one.

I've downloaded Period Diary and it says that AF is due today and I OV on 25th May, 3 days before I started using sticks sad Atleaat I know what the cramps are about now!!

Newbie2 Mon 11-Jun-12 11:38:25

Does anyone know what would happen if I started using the CBFM 3 days late? I don't think it's going to turn up until Thursday sad

Popinda Mon 11-Jun-12 12:30:59

Thanks pinkie for some reason I thought that you were taking 1000 mg. my mistake. smile already had one so let's see what's happen. Should be ov around now. smile

Popinda Mon 11-Jun-12 12:35:23

red I just took my first epo tablet today. Cd15 for me, I'll take some tmr and day after tmr and then will stop untill my cd1 (hopefully that won't happen! smile)
I don't think it's matter when you start taking them as long as you don't take them after ov. That's my understanding. Be free to correct me if I'm mistaken. smile

Maclairey Mon 11-Jun-12 13:09:48

Newbie you can adjust the CBFM up to cd5 I think so you will be fine.

DulcetMoans Mon 11-Jun-12 13:21:20

Ouch, the ache today is like my body protesting at my decision to TTC. Stupid body! AF must be on her way. Got an appetite for destruction too! I don't think I have every been so aware of my ovaries as I am today. It's almost like they are on the outside of my body. Now that's weird!

Thanks for the TMI Red that actually helped me understand my own situation a bit more as I noticed the same this morning.

red I'm just tired and now have on/off nausea too. Boobs still sore also!

dulcet when is af due again?

Newbie2 Mon 11-Jun-12 13:30:16

Mclairey oooo that's good news.

Still no sign of AF!!!! Only 1 day late so not worth stressing but would like it to be over. Perhaps if I buy a preg test it will appear smile

DulcetMoans Mon 11-Jun-12 13:33:51

I wish I could remember my last one to work it out! I think it's this week though, or next week at the latest. I don't track the days though and this is first month of doing this so taking the relaxed approach. Obviously logging in here everyday might not be very relaxed but he doesn't know that bit! grin

NicolaHazel Mon 11-Jun-12 13:45:17

Dulcet, my ovaries have been like that since CD9!

Hopefully a good sign.

Maclairey Mon 11-Jun-12 14:05:00

Newbie hopefully you won't end up like me.

I am thinking I might get some Vitex tomorrow and take it with the EPO and starflower oil cd1 to 10 and see how I get on. I am figuring that it can't do any harm. It cant really get much worse!

DulcetMoans Mon 11-Jun-12 14:06:02

Thanks Nicola, That's good to know. It's like a small fire in my belly. Probably just more aware of it this month than previously. Are you due soon too?

Newbie2 Mon 11-Jun-12 14:29:33

Maclairey - oh no has AF not appeared? What CD are you on now?

NicolaHazel Mon 11-Jun-12 14:34:08

I have no idea, Dulcet. CD21 on first post-pill month. Taking it as it comes!

Maclairey Mon 11-Jun-12 15:16:39


Newbie2 Mon 11-Jun-12 15:23:42

As ridiculous as this sounds I think I may have a very bad case of wind and not Pms. I would really like to know now either way! Has Anyone else experienced really really bad wind problems when AF should have arrived or maybe at the same time as AF?

Newbie2 Mon 11-Jun-12 15:24:33

Mclairey I feel for you sad

Newbie2 Mon 11-Jun-12 17:01:52

Ok I know I'm being totally paranoid so early on but I've decided to take a test when i get home tonight. I've realised i only get cramps when I'm sitting down at the desk and as soon as I stand up they go. Also have really bad lower back pain and leaking watery stuff. Probably nothing but worth a test!

Popinda Mon 11-Jun-12 17:17:40

Good luck newbie you never know! grin

Newbie2 Mon 11-Jun-12 17:28:46

Thanks Pop!

Popinda Mon 11-Jun-12 17:30:46

Let's us know! grin

DulcetMoans Mon 11-Jun-12 18:54:44

How'd it go newbie? Did you get a chance to do it?

Newbie2 Mon 11-Jun-12 19:30:47

Just did cheapie wilkos test and nothing sad

So my symptoms are just AF being really cruel. I'm sure the cow will put an appearance in tomorrow angry

EchoDragon Mon 11-Jun-12 19:49:26

I am so over long cycles! maclairey maybe we could be cycle buddies. Cd53 and counting.

Although AF could well be due. As I seem to have a v bad case of PMT. Poor DH doesn't know what to do. I am going from super birch to crying over nothing to fine all in ten minutes. Not helped by having to cook dinner as England are playing. Grrr bloomin football.

AF better show up or my marriage may not last long enough for us to be TTC next month. Might try some of that EPO too.

Popinda Mon 11-Jun-12 19:58:48

is it possible for ov stick not to catch my ov?

DulcetMoans Mon 11-Jun-12 20:00:44

Aw, sorry about that newbie. At least you won't be wondering for now. The sooner she comes the sooner you can try again!

redstrawberry Mon 11-Jun-12 21:12:13

Sorry to hear that newbie Hope she arrives soon sad
Hope you ok x treat yourself to some wine

Newbie2 Mon 11-Jun-12 23:02:36

Hello ladies. Thanks for your concern. I went straight to bed after doing the test doubled up in pain. Just woke up and was very ill. I will spare you the details! Anyway, cramps have died down TG and it looks like I had food poisoning! Unusual for my body to take 24hrs to reject whatever it was but it was definite food poisoning so that clears that all up smile I'm just pleased cramps have died down!!

Popinda Tue 12-Jun-12 06:49:15

newbie really sorry to hear that! Glad you feeling better! smile everyone have a lovely day! smile

NicolaHazel Tue 12-Jun-12 07:05:09

Hopefully you're feeling better today, Newbie.

Any sign of ERTD?

LisaC2611 Tue 12-Jun-12 07:32:27

Morning all, I said hello last week, then promptly disappeared. Have been trying to hide my obsession with this site from hubby (and failing miserably!)

Hope you are feeling better newbie smile

I'm on cd20 and have been having lots of strange tummy pains. Af is due next Tuesday but we will be in Spain so hoping she wont turn up and that this is our month, but highly unlikely to be as it is only our 2nd cycle of ttc. Fx that it happens soon.

How's everyone else doing? I saw that this has been quite a fertile thread do fx for the rest of us.


NicolaHazel Tue 12-Jun-12 07:37:54

Hi Lisa :-)

CD 22 here, but first month off the pill and getting loads of aches and pains. No idea when AF will strike though!

And yes, very fertile indeed :-)

EchoDragon Tue 12-Jun-12 07:40:58

Glad your feeling better newbie and that you have an explanation for the cramps.

Hi lisa least your holiday might distract you from symptom spotting. We all seem to be POAS mad round here be warned.

We have had quite a few BFPs so far. Fx for more.

EchoDragon Tue 12-Jun-12 07:46:18

I'm on cd54 of first cycle I think. Stopped contraception mid cycle. Am hoping AF is on her way as currently have PMT from bell alternating between uber bitch and sobbing wreck. DH is very confused and tiptoes round trying to work out which way I'll swing next.

I think all of us are closet MN addicts. Helps us retain a tiny moment of sanity as we TTC.

LisaC2611 Tue 12-Jun-12 07:55:47

Hi echo and nicola

We've been contraception free for about 2 and a half years, although using condoms until we started ttc. Never thought I would become so obsessive about it. Promised dh that we would not try to not get pg if that makes sense but since the 1st time all I've thought about is getting pg. think I'm driving him mad already!!

I saw the poas party over the weekend. I haven't got any sticks so for the time being I am going to just buy them if we think we need it.

Might invest in opk if Af comes next week to see when ov occurs smile

Hope Af comes soon for u echo. My dh always knows when I'm due as I get very tearful. Poor guys they don't know what's hit them half the time grin

Popinda Tue 12-Jun-12 08:39:50

lisa welcome back! I'm exactly like you! I'm off contraception for about 9 months, we were using condoms up until last month! This is our second cycle of ttc. Promised myself I won't get obsess with trying to get pg! But it almost impossible! I spent about 90% of my awake time thinking what else I can do to speed up conception, I pee on the ov stick twice a day as I'm trying to pin point my ov, bit worried now as I'm on cd16 and the ov stick is saying I haven't ov yet! Even I do have my usual ov pains. I hope I get pg soon as I don't think I can keep up all that dtd for much longer! So tiring! smile thanks for this thread and you lovely ladies as you keep my sanity! grin

Popinda Tue 12-Jun-12 08:48:29

dragon I hope af arrives! I don't know anyone with such a long cycle! Have you done hpt?

LisaC2611 Tue 12-Jun-12 09:00:47

Hi pop

I also spend most of the time I'm awake thinking about it and also had a few strange dreams about it! Most of my time seems to be fluctuating between am I pg and is that a symptom or am I infertile and are we going to need ivf! I think my age concerns me more than anything else as I got told a few years ago by a gynae that once you hit 36 your fertility takes a dip and I turned 36 in April sad

Oh well, if we sling enough baby dust around, hopefully someone will catch the bug soon.


Popinda Tue 12-Jun-12 09:23:47

lisa as I said I feel exactly the same!! Especially about the infertility issue! I know im being unreasonable as its only our second cycle of tct, but I wonder why I'm not pg yet? Especially now when my ov sticks try to tell me I'm not ov! I'm trying to be positive and keep telling myself I'm just testing wrong time of the day! smile

Popinda Tue 12-Jun-12 09:51:25

Aarrrr! What's going on? Another friend is pregnant!!!!! I'm happy for her, don't get me wrong, but I'm also sad and envy that its not me! sad

LisaC2611 Tue 12-Jun-12 10:01:06

It will be your turn soon pop. Fx for a bfp this month.

All my friends seem to have had their families I'm the last one ttc. However there are 3 women pregnant in the department I work in, without all the others I keeper ting on the lift sad

I did say to dh at the weekend that I'm being tested as everywhere I look someone is pregnant or pushing a baby and I want it to be me envy

LisaC2611 Tue 12-Jun-12 10:02:04

Oops that should have said keep Merton in the lift blush

LisaC2611 Tue 12-Jun-12 10:02:34

Meeting angry damn predictive text

DulcetMoans Tue 12-Jun-12 11:13:13

We had a pregnancy announcement this morning at work as well. Not someone I know very well but will see them around.

I tried to POAS this morning but it went wrong I think. No line in the control window which the little bit of paper says means it did not work. Such an anticlimax! Not sure what I did wrong either. Oh well, try again tomorrow maybe. Just getting hopes up that ovaries on fire is a sign from my body, but I think I know it probably isn't!

Newbie2 Tue 12-Jun-12 11:37:39

Thanks ladies. I'm still recovering as was up many times in the night but the killer cramps have gone. Just taking it easy today with water and toast. I am seriously relieved that the worst is over and I will not be making homemade sausage rolls again in a hurry!! Made me realise how I need to be extra careful about double checking food is cooked thoroughly in the coming months! Normally very good about it but I guess my mind was elsewhere in TTC land on Sunday!

No sign of AF but I don't blame her smile CD30 for me and suspect I have a few more days to go.

Welcome back Lisa smile

Pop - Do you think maybe you started the OV sticks too late in your cycle? According to my Period Diary App I started using them 3 days too late as I had already Ov'd. I didn't realise that you count a withdrawal bleed as day 1 of your cycle...doh! I so know how you feel about another friend being me you probably feel a mix of feelings...over the moon for her, frustrated that its not you and angry that you feel that way about your friend! Don't be too hard on yourself though as she probably was the same about someone else when she was TTC...unless it was a happy accident.

Maclairey Tue 12-Jun-12 12:09:37

Afternoon all!!!

Echo I would be happy to be your cycle 52 for me and no signs of PMT sad

Hi Lisa welcome to the mad house.

Newbie sorry to hear you have been poorly that's definitely not good. Glad you are feeling better though.

I agree, I feel very envious of pregnant people. I can't help it even though it's ridiculous as I am only on cycle 1 but I keep thinking there must be something wrong with my woman's bits. Especially after this really long never ending cycle sad

Newbie2 Tue 12-Jun-12 12:13:20

Maclairey Uh I know, it's so easy to start thinking something is wrong with our bits isn't it!! Just look at me, I had chronic food poisoning and I was convinced it was my womb stretching lol

Newbie2 Tue 12-Jun-12 12:33:26

Forgot to say ladies that I came across this Fertility map yesterday. Thought it was quite useful. I don't know if these things are accurate though because like we've been saying everyone is so different. I think you have to take this information with a pinch of salt -

DulcetMoans Tue 12-Jun-12 14:33:44

So, i'm at work meaning I am obviously thinking of other things totally non-work based.

Do you think you can ever 'feel' pregnant? I guess it's a bit of a question for those that have their BFPs, if they are still around. At the early stages, before you have symptoms, do you feel pregnant? While we are TTC we are probably prone to thinking any little change or something unusual is pregnancy but I wonder whether, when it happens, we will be able to feel different before the tests are in...?

Anyway, thats my current train of thought...

Pinkie29 Tue 12-Jun-12 14:38:38

Dulcet apparently there are no symptoms, I got my bfp last week at 12dpo and thinking back the only difference I'd noticed was being exceptionally tired which is unusual for me and I had a huge appetite, also normally my boobs are tender right after ov, this month I didn't get any tenderness until around 7dpo

Popinda Tue 12-Jun-12 15:38:53

Ladies what are your view on: does saliva harm or kill sperm?

Popinda Tue 12-Jun-12 15:42:17

newbie I started using ov sticks on my cd6 so I would be surprise if I missed it! I decided to blame my cheep sticks from Internet. :-)

Newbie2 Tue 12-Jun-12 16:43:11

Dulcet I think the symptoms must feel stronger to those who're not thinking about pregnancy. When I speak to friends who have had happy accidents they've said they 'just knew' without even having to take a test. One of my friends never even took a test and just went straight to her GP (I find that odd as I've been waiting years to see that BFP line). I feel because I'm thinking 24hrs about this now that every twinge becomes analysed to whether it's a sign of a BFP!

Newbie2 Tue 12-Jun-12 16:47:27

Pinkie am I right in thinking that you OV late?

Pop oh then I guess you probably would have caught it! I'm so addicted to these damn sticks! I have to stop and save some for when I might need them!

Pinkie29 Tue 12-Jun-12 17:24:03

On my April cycle I didn't ov until cd28 but may cycle was cd16/17 I'm putting it down to Vitex smile

EchoDragon Tue 12-Jun-12 18:08:59 <