aww thanks babyboom 1979, x

Feeling like one is on a conveyer belt is certainly no fun. Hope you are cosy at home with your feet up....

Great that you have tests booked. I found it so hard to take the first step (scared of what might come up) but so happy I did. Now i feel like I will have a little more faith for next time......even though I know I will be completely anxiety-ridden.

Sending you loads of hugs....

Had my erpc, it was ok, but felt like I was on a conveyor belt, as soon as it was over, they wanted to discharge me asap. Yes I would like to be in the comfort of my own home, but not when they are basically pushing me out the door!!

Got some tests booked now too!! It sounds so silly, but Im actually looking forward to them, not because I want them, but maybe because there may be a simple curable problem, and I will beable to go forward, and put all of this behind me.

xx

Thanks so much Rachxx....that really means a lot.....you very much deserve a BFP as well -- and soon! So sorry about your ERPC tommorrow. You'll be in my thoughts. Please hang in there and let us know how you are getting on.

Rainbow.....gosh three months -- I hope with the summer it goes by more quickly. I went private and was on the phone with my doctor within a week discussing my blood results. Luckily, my foreign insurance partially covered the investigations so I now realise I was very, very lucky. I really hope you are fourth time lucky and I'm sending you loads of sticky vibes.

Oh and Rachxx....the Portland is in Central London......sort of near regents park if i remember correctly.

Also where is the portland hospital?!

The nhs annoy me barley- some of the docs/nurses seem to know less than me on the subject! Think i have become obsessesed on the subject tho, im constantly searching for info online!

Rainbow-is that 3 month wait on the nhs? I would be the same as you, i wouldnt want to wait until oct for results before ttc again. Fingers crossed that you won't miscarry again

i have started phoning a few private clinics today to arrange tests, but waiting for them all to phone me bak.

Let me know when any of you have any updates

xx

rachxx

I'm so sorry to hear that you're going through all of this at the moment. I hope that the ERPC passes quickly. I've had 2 mmc's since October and 3 ERPC's following a successful pregnancy in 2007. I'm now trying to conceive again. Like other posters I knew that there was a reason for my mc's despite doctors (and 1 NHS specialist) telling me that they were just bad luck and I was fine. I have a family history of secondary infertility and after paying to see a private consultant at the Portland hospital it was confirmed that DH and I have developed an incompatibilty problem and I am in effect rejecting pregnancies as an immune response. Although this was a hard thing to find out at least I knew what was happening and we have gone for treatment that may or may not work and that was worth the expense rather than more false hope from the NHS. I really hope that things become positive for you soon

I have been with my dh to get the blood tests today, but just realised that the wait for the results is three months. So we will not be waiting for the results before ttc again, but risk yet another m/c. That is we will be ttc again, if my body ever gets back into gear, I was hopeful that my body might be getting back to normal when I started spotting at the weekend, but still just spotting, no af here yet.

I have stupied ERPC tomorrow then not sure, I really want to start ttc again!! But wanted to get tested 1st...

I hope you have some good news soon, you really deserve to.

I would imagine he would see you once to do an evaluation and send you for tests, and a second time to discuss results after they come in.

He is my regular gyne so I see him whenever I need to but I really don't think you will need more than two meetings with him. Also, do not hesitate to tell him your worries (he is a good listener) and that you would really like to get tested. He will sit and explain everything about the procedure and you can decide from there what you would like to do.

And don't worry about questions! I'm sure I will have some of my own very soon.

My husband and I will be trying this month....Currently waiting for period and then fingers crossed! What about you?

Ok thanks-so does he do the tests at the first/second appointment? Soz for all the questions, and for going on about myself! Are you ttc atm? X

Any time! We are all in the same boat rooting for eachother......

He will probably want to see you twice. Once for a general checkup/medical history inquiry and then for a follow-up. You may be able to skip the 2nd appointment if you end up with a clean bill of health.

It usually takes about 3 weeks as a first-time patient to get an appnt but once you are on his list I have gotten in within a week.

I suddenly seem to remember that the first appointment may be slightly more expensive (I think 150) as he spends a while getting to know you and then it's 120.

Oh, and how many times did you have to go to him?

Thanks for good advice! Wish i had found mumsnet earlier! I know what you mean with the health-i am NEVER ill, and never have anything wrong, but maybe i have had something wrong with me all these years and never knew! x

I felt exactly like you about not being taken seriously -- i fell pregnant both times at 29. I have also never smoked, rarely drink, never get sick, eat well, exercise, am a good bmi, have regular periods, very good hormone profile (fsh etc.)......I just couldn't understand what could be causing these miscarriages.

Anyway, I felt that Dooley was that much more curious to investigate what could be causing them BECAUSE I am still young and healthy and recurrent miscarriages tend to happen more frequently after age 35. Mind you, he did say that it really could just be down to bad luck but I'm happy that he saw that I wasn't going to be satisfied with that answer and booked me in for further investigations.

From what I can remember he tested for lupus anticoagulant, several clotting factors, the MTHFR gene and chromosomal abnormalities in both my husband and me.

In the end I tested positive for the MTHFR gene and Protein S deficiency (clotting factor). For the former I have to take very high-dose folic acid supplements and for the latter I have to take daily aspirin and then heparin injections when I fall pregnant.

All scary stuff but I am so happy I now know.
I really wouldn't give a second thought to your age. If you do decide to see Dooley, he will be nothing but understanding. You have had two miscarriages and deserve to be asking yourself questions! If you are worried than definitely go seek reassurance. It can do wonders.....

I am worried though, that no-one will take me seriously. They feel that because im young, i've got plenty of time, which i think is quite unfair!

Lol, I thought they were meant to be £ when you said harley street. Thanks for info. Which tests did you actualy have for that price? I feel like i defintley want them, but unfortunatly i will be paying out my own pocket, bt will be worth it, as i won't be relying on the nhs any time soon! Thanks x

Sorry for all the mispelled words and typos....oh and I meant to use the pound sign (which my new computer doesn't have!) instead of the $. It's late!!

Yes...staying pregnant is certainly much harder (and scarier) than I thought.

I went to see Dr. Michael Dooley who is a consultant gynaecologist at both the Lister Hospital and 132 Harley Street. If you google his name, his website and contact info pop up. He is absolutely fantastic at what he does and really listens to everything one has to say. A former colleague recommended him and I have to admit I was initially sceptical as he has many high-flying clients and I was worried I would barely get his attention. I could not have been more wrong......I have never been with a more attentive and compassionate doctor. After each miscarriage he sent a letter saying how sorry he was along with a detailed list of what my next steps should be.

A consulatation costs about $120 and the tests were about $400 (for both my husband and me). Of course this cost would vary depending on what you decide to have done. It was very expensive but well worth my peace of mind. I luckily am partially covered through my foreign insurance but even were I not I think I would have paid out of pocket.

I have to admit I hestitated initially to do the investigations because two miscarriages in a row is apparently quite common and most people who do miscarriage testing come back with normal results. I just had a feeling and my husband was adamant that we both get tested.

Let me know if you have any other questions.

Where did you get your tests done? I am thinking of getting some done, i have already researched what tests I need, bt just dont know how much, or where to go. No i don't have any children as of yet. I hated it when my first due date went passed, but i was pregnant again for the second time, so i had that to keep me going. Its so frustrating-i would have been due in december this time round, and if i concieve again this month, it wont be due to april, does anyone feel like its one thing trying to get pregnant, then staying pregnant is harder than they thought?

Hi Rachxx.....I have had two miscarriages, one at 7 weeks and a second at 5. I decided to go private to do some tests (I had a very strong feeling this was more than just bad luck) and it turns out I tested positive for 2 blood clotting disorders -- one of which also prevents me from absorbing folic acid properly. So it's on to baby aspirin for me and high-dose prescription folic acid. So sorry to hear of your losses.....it's not easy but we will all get there!

rachxx I had a mmc then a natural mc, then went full term and had a lovely baby boy, another mc and then another baby boy.
It is, I think, one of the hardest things to go through.
Hope all works out for you. x

Know what u mean about long miscarriage rainbow
With my last mc I had scan at 8 weeks on 3rd march no hb
Decided to have medical mangement on 13th march ( which was due date of 1st mc )
That didn't work and still had retained product so ended up having d&c on 16th april.
Longest 6 weeks of my life. I decided to wait for first af before ttc again.
Still don't feel 100% back to normal.

Fingers crossed that none of us will have to go through this again !

I will be soon ttc after the 3rd mc in the last 7 months. I am getting fed up waiting for my body to finish this latest one. All my m/c's have been early (less than 6 weeks) and occuring naturally, but this one started a month ago and I am still getting positive pregnancy tests, it is frustrating, my hcg levels are creeping down very slowly.

I am not a wait-er. I resume ttc activities as soon as I have stopped bleeding.

It is hard after one miscarriage to relax with another pregnancy, but let us hope none of us have to go through any more miscarriages.

Hi rach. I am currently ttc after 3mc

2nd month of trying after mmc beginning of march (d&c in april)
Taken a while for my body to get back to normal after this mc so not holding out much hope for the next few months, but I am determined to take it easy and just relax as much as possible.

Do you have any dc?

no prob just the way it goes, took me a year to concieve my son, who was my first, but fell pregnant when he was 4 months old with my DD! we only had sex once i think as well.

this time took a few months the first time, MC, got pregnant right away, MC, got pregnant right away and things are fine (touch wood)

the only downside to it is that its been dragging on and on, and i feel like ive been pregnant for over a year now and just cant wait to hold my baby!

lol, I didnt wait either, i concieved within a month the first time, and 4 months the second time, and I thought that maybe I was gettig worse, lol x

easier i conceived straight away, i dont do the "recommended wait" which is like 3 months isnt it?
so i didnt have a period between MC and this pregnancy.

tell you what tho the first 12 weeks are bloody hard, you will need support there are lots of support threads on here, the knicker checkers are brilliant when u concieve again x

thanks...did you find it quicker or longer to concieve after your mc? I would have been due in may this year, or dec this year, but was not to be. Congrats tho THENATTY hopefully ill be like you, 3rd time lucky

just wanted to add support, i am 38 weeks pregnant after 2 MC.

its can be done

good luck and sticky thoughts to you all x

lol, aww I would join you there, but Im not over 30 I didnt wana go and invade anyones threads either...so which ones are good?

You're welcome to join us in the gin palace if you are a crusty old gimmer like us (i.e. over 30), otherwise there are quite a few threads dealing with ttc after miscarriage where you will find a warm/chilled welcome and all the advice and moral support you need.

(you won't find that in the gin palace cos we all too pissed most of the time and can't string sentences together lol)

Heya, I am a new member to mumsnet, but just thought I'd come on here to speak to others, swap tips, and for some general moral support!! I have had two missed miscarriages, and will be trying again in july, once everything is ok. I would love to hear from others, and have some other people to talk to this time around!! xx