That's brilliant news bucky will it be your first ivf? If so feel free to ask questions I've only done one cycle and it was over a year ago but I'm happy to try to answer any questions you might have. I remember asking so many questions!

I got my letter today for my IVF cycle too . October! . I'm a little scared now its actually practically here!!

<waves to seaside and LL>
It's all thanks to you Bucky

I'm really glad to hear that NoMore . I had my fingers crossed for you. xx

This is potentially fantastic news - keeping my fingers crossed for you nomore. Also looks as though my PCT (Southwark) have upped the number of turns on the merry-go-round from one to three.... amazing!

Woo hoo - Good news nomore
(I always try and lurk to check in on you and gilly )

Nice to 'see' you both
I'm still really not going to let myself believe it until - well until we're actually doing the IVF cycle really. Really feel this is too good to be true there's got to be a catch somewhere....

WOO indeed!!!!!

Woo!!!

So I'm talking to myself here but I don't care...my PCT have changed their rules and I'm hopefully going to get another 2 NHS funded IVF cycles! Not counting my chickens just yet as I'm still convinced that someone will pull the rug out from under me but... <fingers crossed>

Hi Rah lovely to see you, I was only wondering the other day how you were getting on Haven't heard back yet about the PCT changing the funding/criteria but hopefully I will soon. Have been trying not to get my hopes up too much but am quite excited that there might be another NHS go for us. Even if it's not NHS funded we're hoping to get a cycle in before the end of the year.

Hi all

Will log on properly asap, just on Iphone at moment and have 5 mins spare which is very unusual these days!
Noremore - hope that clinic gets u in quick and gives u your free cycles. 3!!! Is fab! Only get one go at my clinic.

Gilly - thank you so much it's absolutly beautiful!!! I love it thank you and thank you so much for thinking of Daisy. She is over 9 weeks old now, where does the time go?

Hello to everyone else, will catch up asap.

Congrates a&b, another girl! Amazing

Lots of love and missing u all , rah xxx

Good luck. I thought you may be lucky as mine is either 3 cycles or 6 transfers depending how many eggs they collect. I am in Hertfordshire.

Hi Bucky I have been doing some googling and according to the guardian website my PCT now offer 3 goes, rather than the one I was given. I will try to find out more from my gp, thank you so much

Hi All

I have dropped in here in the past but didn't stick around for long from memory so you may not remember me .

I was just lurking on the last few posts and wondered, NoMore Where in the country are you? The rules for IVF changed in June of this year in some counties and I wondered how/if that would affect you?

FYI - I have been here forever too. Joined the first time in May 2006! How sad is that!! And no, still no dc! Probably the same story as most people, unexplained infertility, L&D, HSG, Clomid and now waiting for IVF.

Bucky xx

Yes it does work She's beautiful, has a fab name (though I might be biased on that issue!) and what an amazing lot of hair too

How confusing! Does it work now?

I can see your profile now, but there's no link to your photos, sorry. What I did was make one photo (of my cats) a public photo then made my other photos mumsnet mates only. Can you try that?

Thanks nomore - I've done what you said so hopefully you should be able to see it now.

hiya A&B I can't see your profile, sorry. I think you have to make it public and then you can choose for your pics to mumsnet mates only, then list us as your mates

Ok - I think I've put the name and a photo on my profile, but it's a private profile so I'm not exactly sure if I've done it right. Can someone let me know? The people on this thread should all be able to see it.

My labour started with my waters breaking, but they had meconium in so we went straight to hospital. It was about 17 hours end to end, but not really painful for about the first 5 or 6 because the contractions were coming fairly slowly. At some point I had syntocinon to get them going and then I started on the gas and air and it's a bit of a blur from there! I actually can't believe how painful it was - it's true that no-one can describe it to you. Anyway I got to the second stage and was pushing for about 45 minutes, but her heart rate was dropping too much with the contractions so suddenly the room was full of people and I had an episiotomy and ventouse delivery to get her out quickly. Then I lost over a litre of blood as the placenta didn't detatch straight away. She had to be resuscitated a little bit but she was fine and looked really unscathed and breastfed for about an hour after they had stitched me up!

The first week has been a bit of a blur too but I'm starting to feel like a person again. Breastfeeding is going well so far and she's just amazing!

Many many congratulations A&B

congratulations A&B another girlie in the gang

Thanks very much girls

Congrats Apple&Black Looking forward to hearing your story.

xx

Hello - just wanted to let you know I had a baby girl on Sunday weighing 9lb. Feeling shattered so I'll post more details at some later point. Congratulations to Ready too. xxx

Yay! Yay! Yay! Great news! Many congratulations Ready and hubby! I had a feeling it would be a little girl

Ready What amazing news, enjoy your precious girl, and well done on the baby's weight, fabulous!

WHOOOOOO HOOOOOOOO
(blimey - that's not samll!!)

Rah - please can you send huge hugs from me.

FANTASTIC!!!!!

Hi all

Sure Ready won't mind. Heard from her hubby

she had a girl at 2.02am this morning 9lb 3

So excited for them.... Many congratulations Ready!!!!

Woooooooooooohooooooooooo

love Rah xxxxx

Nomore - how frustrating - though the consultant clearly thinks the test is needed and could be useful. (quick reminder about a single private consultation is it looks like it'll drag on)

A boy for Herby - how lovely

<lurks for Ready news>

Oh Nomore which ones do they want to run again and why? Did they mention timescales?

Lots of ((((hugs))))

Great news about Herby
Consultant rang, they want to run one fo the tests again. Am seriousy fed up about the whole thing, sorry for the lack of update

Hiya don;t know if anyone had realised that herby had a baby boy on the 8th. She posted on the 13th July in the mc thread.

Ready any news?

Nomore, has the consultant called you yet? What news?

Hi Islegrin, we've sort of had the multiple conception conversation when I over stimmed for IUI in a couple of cycles. Like Choc said it is a very personal thing and we agreed that what will be .

Hi Nomore - have you had your follow up yet?

Hi Islegrin - by reduction I assume you mean discovering you have a multiple pg and decide / or are advised to reduce to one or maybe twins. I really think this is only something you can decide upon if you are in that position. It is also very rare now if you are using UK clinics - though some overseas clinics are more prone. For many long term ttcers it is hard to imagine that dilemma - as a pg often feels a very long way off!

Any news of Ready?

Hi Gilly and everyone else!

I can identify with a few of the recent comments regarding the letdown, and scheduling the next procedure to reinstill hope. My DH is also (luckily for me) very supportive and positive, but he also recently asked if I would be OK if we didn't have kids - I won't kid you, it was a big blow. But he needs to know that I won't be permanently depressed or go into a tailspin if this really doesn't happen. I told him that 85% of me wants a baby, either of our own or adopt, in order for me to get to the point where I would just be happy without any kid would be a stretch, but I could do it.

I was bummed due to my CD10 scan revealing 6 small follies on my blocked tube side, and 8 follies on my good side - but all immature. The largest two were only 8mm. Normally, I'm busting by day 10 at 24mm, but this was a different protocol. Travelled back home yesterday and had another scan - revealed much more hope, some of the smaller ones were shriniking (yay! because I'm not into the thought of octuplets) and we've got 3 maturing (12mm now). So more muscle injections for 3 days then another scan on Friday. This cycle is just moving slower than the others, but we still have a ray of hope, and that is what we all cling to!!!

This result has really made us talk about reduction and the real maximum number of babies we could handle both during the pregnancy and afterward - has anyone else had this talk seriously yet? Are most of you against or for reduction? I'm just curious.

Good luck on the birth Herbaceous!!!

The follow up is next week now, most of the waiting has been and gone now Would have happily paid £160 to move things on, it's not much when compared to the cost of IVF charges. Now it's been more than a year I expect we'll have to pay for another pre-IVF consultation anyway, which is about the same cost.
Thanks for the virtual kick up the bum though, you're right, we have moved forward, if ever so slowly and hopefully the follow up appt will provide some answers or a way forward.

Actually it sounds pretty constructive to me!

Waiting for the follow up apptmt is a bit of a killer though - we had the same problem too. Our NHS doc was also the private consultant so we chose to spend (£160 I think) to review the results and move things on. The private consultation (and this is a champagne socialist here!) was interesting and useful. As we had paid for it I felt we could take as long as we liked and ask anything we liked. It helped. We then went back to NHS for our first IVF. Worth considering?

I can't say I knew what cycle it was until I looked at my calendar, it's a photocopy of the front of my diary with the past year, this year and next year on it, only it's last year's calendar so it covers 2007, 2008 and 2009 period dates, cycle lengths and cycle number. How sad am I??
Am 3 1/2 yrs into ttc, had 6 months of Clomid July-Dec 07, one go at IVF (NHS funded) in May 08 then was saving £££ for a private go (planned for Jan/Feb 09) when I had a EP in Nov 08. After that the doc wanted me to have a L&D and HSG so we've been put on hold for the last 9 months and now I'm waiting for the follow up appt from the L&D/HSG before they decide what to suggest next. I'm on Clomid at the mo simply because I had some laying about and Rah kindly sent me some of her left over supply too and the IVF doc said there was no harm in trying it but he said not to get my hopes up about it!
Sounds depressing written out like that doesn't it?

I'm impressed you're still counting cycles - once it got over 3 years I gave up it was too depressing. Remind me - where are you on tests / drugs / interventions?

oh yes it's day 25 here how did you guess?? (of cycle 44 I've just seen - had to get my cycle calendar out to check CD) I feel even more miserable now. 44 cycles and what exactly made me think this one would be different? Harumph!

Oooh, Ready, ask your GP for a prescription for Lanisoh - by far the best thing to sooth sore nips (once you start b-feeding) and costs c.£8 over the counter.

Hi Ready. We went to a local farm so Minichoc could see how big cows, sheep, goats, pigs, chickens etc are - 'til then she'd only seen pictures and toys. There was lots of giggling from all of us.

SO are you doing long walks, hot curries, pineapple and XXXXX!!?

Nomore - are you, by any chance, in the second half of your cycle? That pesky progesterone is a rascal and can make all PMA fade away. Try to go with the flow, hun. Cxx

haha! knew you'd say that

PMA. PMA. PMA.

xxxxx

Hi Ready How are you? Been thinking about you lots recently
I'm not doing too well tbh, I've lost all my PMA for this cycle and am wondering why I felt so positive in the first place. Maybe it's the Clomid, it does make me feel very up and down.
Gilly You're not letting anyone down ((hugs)) I know exactly what you mean about being an all-or-nothing person though, it's something I find exceptionally hard about FTC. If it was a definite 'you can't have children' I'd throw myself into something else, but the limbo/not knowing is crap.
<waves to choc A&B herby kd Rah and anyone else I've forgotten>

Happy Birthday for Monday MiniChoc What did you do to celebrate?

Gilly - I spent many hours crying over letting DH down, but that was silly. No one is letting anyone down. Big hugs, please stop putting so much pressure on yourself and laying blame on yourself. Be strong and positive. xx

Hope everyone is doing well.

Looking forward to hearing from Herby

xxxx

No didn't see her - but have a wonderful friend who life coaches and tragically is infertile through cancer - she is an incredibly positive life force and helped me enourmously

Because I am so impatient, a perfectionist and an all or nothing person I take his optimism as a sure sign that it will be a BFP so when it isn't the disappointment is doubly hard.

He feels guilty because of the male factor diagnosis and I feel guilty that, even with medical help, I still haven't produced the 'take home baby' we have been trying for 3.5 yrs. Sigh! Don't worry though, I am feeling a bit chirper (sp?) if you had got me 2 weeks ago I was heading for the loony bin. We are seeing the cllr at HH. Did you see her?

Woah Gilly - you are not letting him down in any way. You are in this together and no-one is to blame

Hi Choc, great to hear from you but not great about the redundancy . Yes got a date. Start drugs in Aug and do ICSI in Sept. I've got the baseline scan this Friday and then co-ord appt next week sometime. You are lucky that you live near the HH. We are an hour away by tube and bus and I cannot face having to go in every day for injections. I don't know if my GP would do them for me. I don't like the sound of 'deep' does it mean that the needle is bigger? Where do you inject it? Thigh or bum? DH is really not going to like that, he went green at the last co-ord appt where the needle is quite small and wanted to leave the room, let alone having to handle it himself. This is not going to be good....then again the GP is not open at weekends so it will have to be done by someone who is comfortable with them... heck why did we move from Newcastle? BIL's partner is a paramedic and this would have all been a walk in the park for him! Totally understand the tough time after attempt no.1 not working. It has been hard but getting a date for a second attempt has really helped get me out of the gloom. I have even started thinking it may actually work! DH has already said that it will be a great new start for us (we are due to move house in Aug) and that this time it will work. He says that every time we have some treatment or appt and I hate letting him down every single time.

A&B, wow 36 weeks. So many of you are about to graduate to the next level. Have you done any knitting lately?

Herby everything crossed for you this evening and hope the induction works!

Rah how is cuddly Miss Daisy?

KD how is Aiden?

Ready, not long now for you too.

Nomore? How are you? When is your follow up appt? You haven’t told us about your amazing holiday yet!

Lovely photo's Rah . Hope you're settling in well and enjoying her!

36 weeks here so there could still be another 6 weeks to go for me... She's the right way up but not engaged or anything so I don't think it's imminent.

Looking forward to hearing from Ready and Herby!

Gilly - great to hear that you've finally got a second date for IVF. I really hope this is the one.

xxx

Hi all!

Gilly - redundancy is ok - got my head round it now.

Completely understand how tough you're finding recovery after the 1st IVF attempt. It hit me real hard too - and I had to have a few hedonistic boozin' sessions to cut loose and had a number of heavy chats with dh and a few mates about the baby dream. It was cathartic and helped me and dh agree how many IVFs we were willing to do, I found that helped take the pressure off the 2nd go a bit.

Great you get 2 IVFs from the NHS - to me it is another reminder on how rare succes at the first attempt is. Stick at it babe - there is no reason to give up on the dream as you responded very well to the treatment (better than I did!). The prog injections were ok. I had most done at the hosp - and some by the nurse at my gp, dh learnt how to do them towards the end of the time. I'm not squimish and did the other injections myself but these are a little deeper - but ok, honest. I'll do them again if/when we go for it.
Feel free to ask any qu's. Have you got a timing to start next go?

READY and HERBY:
My ddd was 1 yesterday and I was saying to dh how glad I was last year's July was such rubbish weather (I was one big mum-to-be!) - hope the turn in the weather has helped you.

Hope you enjoy the birth - they can be amazing - (I was one of the lucky ones!)

Rah - your pics took my back - Daisy is soo sweet - CONGRATS again.
Assume you have Lanisoh for your nips? You can as to speak to the lactation specialist at the hospital if you feel it is still not quite right.

Hi and love to everyone else

Choc XX

Oh Rah, she is absolutely beautiful .

Good luck herb, keep us updated!

Thanks Ready, will try it now!

Ditto on the wriggling during the final. Was hopeful of an arrival here, but nothing, nada, zilch
Hope all goes well with your induction tomorrow, very exciting times Herb - hope things go swiftly and pain free - yeah right . Looking forward to hearing all about it.

Hello!

Weekend not fruitful! He got very excitable whenever the crowd cheered in the Wimbledon final, but not excited enough to actually come out and have a look. Now 40+8, so looks like my booked induction for tomorrow night will go ahead. It would appear I'll be having a baby by the end of the week, which I STILL can't believe. Me? A baby you say?

KD, cut and paste the link into your web browser and it will take to the pics

Nomore, yep feeling ok in the weather, have had my moments.

Gilly, still here, still waiting

Herby, hope you had a fruitful weekend

Why can't I see Rah's pictures?

Hiya gilly I was just wondering today if you'd had any more news on your next cycle Glad it's going ahead, and Aug will be here before we know it.
Ready and Herby glad you're keeping cool, it must be really hard being so heavily pg in this weather! Can't believe all these babies are arriving so close together, I hadn't really appreciated how close the dates before now.

ohh exciting news Ready. Hope they materialise into something more!!!!

Any news Herby?

Well, the letter arrived today and our second and last NHS funded cycle will be Aug/Sept. I really hope this works!

Ice lollies are indeed a medical necessity. Concur!!!!

39+2 here... some twinges but nothing doing.

Hope everyone is doing well. Love you all. x

Rah she is utterly edible, huge congratulations (again!) on such a gorgeous little girl!!!! Hope your appts went well.

Herby, hope you don't need the induction. Now that Andy Murray is out maybe he'll decide its time

Hi Seaside!

Just nipping back to see how y'all are doing, and now feel all emotional over the Daisy pics. She's GORGEOUS. <sniff>

I'm actually overdue now - at 40+ 5. Not quite sure what he's waiting for, but he gets all lively whenever the crowd cheer Andy Murray on the telly, so maybe he's just waiting for him to make us all praaad on Saturday. If not, I've got an induction booked next week. Boo.

Off to get my daily ice cream. Medical necessity in this heat...

Oh Rah - pics are gorgeous - she is adorable xxx

Hi all, I think I have set up a profile correctly. Put a link on there with some pictures of Daisy Tallulah
I hope u like!!

I have health visitor at 2pm today and mw any time this afternoon. I reckon she could be up to birth weight now! She seems massive compared to how big she was. Plus having some feeding issues still as she is content staying on my boobs for about 2hrs at a time... They are pigging killing!! I think she is using it as a comfort but has a real paddy if I take her off! How can a 16 day old baby have a temper??? Crazy!!

Right better go as it's nearly 2

Hope everyone is well and is ok with the heat.., thanks seaside for popping in. I need to make it over to the other thread crazy how time just flies!!

Good to hear you are doing well Rah, give her a big cuddle from me! Photos please!!!!

My DH is all into cheesy American country things, so I can't bear to click on that link!

Hello ladies! So glad to hear about Diddy and you too Rah. You sound relaxed even about the monkey in the middle of the night. Good for you!

I've just started a more aggressive round of meds for the next IUI - so (fingers crossed) this will be the ONE!

Waves to all!

Oh my god seaside - am sitting here dripping in tears! Cheesy yes but loved it.

Rah - lovely to hear from you (and Diddy) Sorry to hear about passing out in the shower... small price to pay though, eh?? Can't wait to see some pics of you and the diddy one...... hope you're recovering as quickly as poss from the CS. xx

Good news that you and Diddy (aww so cute ) are home Rah. I too had a lazy feeder - he ended up having 9 heel pricks in 36 hours as they were all flapping about his blood sugar level. Well he was just lazy really and every time he started sucking he fell asleep - being born is a tiring business!

Sorry to gate crash you lovely ladies again but so excited to see an update from Rah

Also I just stumbled across this and I thought you wonderful TTC gals here might like it too - it brought a tear to my eye. It is a bit cheesy american country stuff but heartfelt nevertheless and I have always wondered why more people don't write/sing etc about TTC and FTC.

Sending positive vibes to all of you waiting and trying and special big babydust wafting waves to gilly and nomore

Hi all

sorry for delay in posting. Only got out of hospital last Sunday as diddy lost too much weight and was too lazy for feeds. So came home the Friday night and was readmitted Saturday after a mw visit to our house. Grrrrr so all this week we have had to see a mw every 2 days for monitoring. Which is hard work making apps, on Saturday they made us go to the hospital at 10.30!!!!! Boooooohooooo!
Anyway she is now 6lb 15 so not too far to go. She is feeding loads now and pooing for England, so I think our feeding problems are over... She is just a bit lazy

Don't really have any horrid birthing details as went in for induction nice and soft and they could insert one finger. Presume this must of been slightly dilated And then by 24 hrs later they have fiddled that much I had closed back up but getting contractions that were painful. they said I was in what they class as false labour... Could only bloody happen to me! So by 3pm on the Tuesday they decided enough was enough and sectioned me!! I was quite relieved as some of the noises coming from the delivery suites were quite distressing! I went in all happy and chuffed I was going to give birth but after a few hours of listening to women screaming I started to poo my pants

C section was ok, was a bit scared but the labour was really calm and they played music and everyone was chatting... A lot calmer than naturally! They got the baby out in about 5 mins.... Then spent about 40 mins stitching me up. It's been quite painful to get back on my feet asap, the mophine was great but also made me spaced out. Most painful bit was going to the loo. Passed out twice getting a shower and had to be wheeled through the ward In a towel and a plastic chair back to my bed... Slightly embarrassing! They then moved me to my own room as I was so sleep deprived by all the screaming babies.. Jezus some babies can cry! Mostly the big fat ones
anyway feeling loads better now and Diddy is great. She is really good In the day and a bit of a monkey at night oh well it's all part of the fun. When I have 5 mins I will set up a profile and add some pics. Really want u guys to see her xxxx

Gilly fab news on ur app and securing ur next app!!! Woooohooo

Nomore - u back off holiday yet???? Detail!!! Bet it was amazing!!!

Love to everyone and thanks for kind messages
xxxxx Rah and Diddy xxxxx

Ohhh I can't wait to see pics. Hope baby engages soon Ready!

Hi Choc, sorry to hear things are coming to a head with the redundancy . We are lucky to live in one of the few London PCTs which offer two fresh cycles so, after a good review meeting, we are hoping to do the next one in Sept. The failed cycle is taking its toll though and i have been very low. You'll we interested to know that I'll be on progesterone injections next time, so any tips on administering them will be gratefully received! Take care.

Gilly - Daisy is gorgeous! I have only seen a couple of pics and she is sooo precious. I am sure Rah will be on soon, with pictures.

Choc, wow, does it seem almost a year since you had minichoc? Crazy how time flies. 2 weeks to go here, although I am sure I will go over as the head is not engaged yet.

Hope everyone else is doing well and enjoying this fabulous weather... all that money on the roof at Wimbledon, who knows, they might not use it once

<hijack alert!> Hey Gilly - sorry - I've had my head down sorting out the redundancy and trying to sort out our finances.
I'm impresses you've got the possibility of more than one NHS IVF treatment! Any idea yet of the timing of the next try?

READY!!! - How are you doing - you must be close as dd is one on 6th July - and I think your due date is around then! DOn't believe all the stories about horrible births - it can be amazingly beautiful!

love to all ttcers (and especially the long termers) - hope your dreams come true very soon

Good to hear they are doing well, looking forward to seeing some pics!

Chocolatedays how are you? I have posted a couple of times on 'our' IVF thread but not heard from you for a while.

Big and heartfelt congratulations to Rah, dh and Daisy.

lots of love
Choc XX

Just popping in on behalf of Rah - wanted me to let you all know that she and Daisy are doing really well and as soon as Rah can get proper access to the internet, there will be a big post

xxx

Morning ladies,

Gilly - had another scan on Tuesday and all was well, it's 2 cm now and had a strong hb. I've got a NHS reassurance scan next Friday and a nuchal scan on the 16th. I think I'm 9 weeks ish now - they're going to date me properly at the nuchal scan.

How are you doing? I read about your appointment on the other thread - all sounds very positive. What happens next?

Nomore - how you doing?

x

Many many congratulations to Mr & Mrs Rah, can't wait to see piccys!

A&B, maternity leave you lucky thing! The appt went well, they will increase my drugs for the second cycle and I'll be on more injections as I bled early last time. Hopefully we will do our second IVF cycle in Aug/Sept.

I'm good thanks gilly. Finishing work this week, which is great . I'm very tired at the moment but I think that's pretty normal in the 3rd trimester. Also starting to feel like we might actually be getting a real live baby soon which is very strange.

How did your review go yesterday?

<<waves generally at her adoring public mumsnet friends>>

So good to see the old faces here again!! Hi Fettle, Chooster and Greedy (bet you don't remember me from the old monthly TTC threads )

Big waves to Seaside and Bella

A&B how is it going? Herby is up next, then Ready then you!

Mowmi, do you have a date for your next scan yet?

So Rah, give us the gore then

Rah - Congratulations - Beautiful name!! Take it easy and enjoy this special time xx

Hi fettle I'm fine, still in pretty much the same place with ttc but otherwise good. How are you?

Congratulations Rah!!!! Fantastic news.

Hi Nomore. I remember you!! How you getting on?

<waves to greedy and chooster> just in case you guys remember me?
<waves to Bella>

Rah where are you? I made you a new thread especially so you could tell us all about the gory details!

Brilliant news!!! . Congratulations Rah! - Love her name

well done rah. give her a squidge from me!

Congratulations Rah, remember you from way back

xx

Woooooo! So pleased for you Rah .

Wow!!!!!!! Huge congratulations to you Rah - and what a beautiful name; love it.

Take care of yourself and enjoy every moment.

xxx

Hoorah Congratulations Rah - just so thrilled for you and your DH [teary-eyed emoticon]
Welcome to the world Daisy
love and hugs
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

HUGE CONGRATS TO THE WHOLE RAH FAMILY!!! yay! Well done! Welcome Daisy

p.s. Nomore love the thread name, soooo appropriate!

CONGRATULATIONS and welcome to the world Daisy Tallulah!!!!!!!!!

Sorry to hear about the c-sec, rest up and take it easy - eternal adoration of new baby and hubby and feeding is all you are allowed to do from now on

I'm not on FB so I'll wait for MN profile pics instead.

Take care,
Gill

New thread for Daisy