PCOS and hCG Levels
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Hello all,
Apologies if this has been discussed previously.
I have been reading more and more about a link between PCOS and difficult to detect hCG levels during early pregnancy, making HPTs almost useless for many weeks.
Having been diagnosed with PCOS and hypothyroidism, I was once told, by a doctor, that different hormone disorders often go hand in hand. If that is the case, could it be that, even if a PCOS 'sufferer' were to become pregnant, not enough hCG would be produced to keep the pregnancy? Or has my thinking/knowledge gone to pot?
Does anyone have any thoughts on (1) the use of HPTs with PCOS and (2) the production of hCG when affected by PCOS?
That was long and my head's spinning. Hope I didn't just cure your insomnia!
xx
Hope you see this clwc!
Haven't been on here for ages and just looked for this thread.
I didn't ov on Clomid last month - progesterone was 4 on CD42 and AF started on CD52 so I am now CD10 of a new cycle and have taken my last Clomid. Just waiting yet again. I had reflexology last time so am trying to get booked in for some more but that won't be for a couple of weeks.
Not too bothered at the minute, just enjoying the summer hols with DS doing lots of things I wouldn't be able to do easily if I were pg or had a baby (bowling/ice skating/lots of days out) enjoying our freedom.
Hope you are well, keep in touch.
Sorry for the name change, don't like to have same name too long! Bit paranoid!
XXX
Sorry, the thread disappeared off my radar.
So, Josie123 = SockThing?
Did you ovulate this month?
My period started last Saturday. I'm hpoing it'll stop soon. I miss the BDing!

I am sock thing!
Ahh that's a bit of a let down, your appointment being pushed back. I know how you feel on the waiting waiting waiting. I can't imagine what it feels like to have a proper cycle and be able to track ovulation and know when you are due to come on AF, it would be fab!
I am CD27 today but not waiting for AF! Hoping to OV at some point. Wishful thinking! We both need to just keep BDing and waiting! Combined with my low HCG levels I will be 14 weeks before I know it again I bet!!! I want to know nice and early next time!
Keep in touch!
Hello SockThing
Long time no see. I'm OK. I'm approximately CD 40 now. Had some spotting yesterday, nothing today, feel out of sorts, numerous BFNs, still no proper period. Don't think I ov'd last month. My cons appointment has been pushed back from the 3rd to the 31st July. So I guess I'm just waiting for things to get going. x x x x
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Mowmi, I was reading your post and hoping you were going to say things turned out well, I am so pleased you had a positive scan and I hope everything progresses as it should and you have a happy & healthy 9 months! I am so envious of ladies who have a "cycle" and can test on a certain date and get a +ve or -ve and know for sure!
I had my scan today to see what is going on inside me and (bearing in mind I am on CD21 of a 50mg Clomid cycle) there wasn't much activity! The sonographer said by CD21 on a "normal" 28 day cycle she would expect to see the collapsed follicle where the egg had been released last week but she could only see lots of small follicles - immature eggs I guess. She said there is no dominant follicle ripening to ovulate either

Feel quite down now after the elation of having AF on my own and taking Clomid.
I am going to carry on BDing 2-3 times a week and try not to obsess as I know I am not going to ov in the next week or so so there is no pressure. Then wait for next AF I guess. It has happened for me before and I know I ov'd late on then (about day 35 I think) so I have to just hope I am a late ov'er - if there is such a thing!
How are things with you clwc?
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Thank-you for 'stumbling',
mowmi 
It sounds as though you have been through a heck of a lot to get to where you are now. Congratulations on your BFP!
GPs are difficult creatures. I explained to one GP that I would like to be prescribed Met. She said I'd have to get it from the FC, but also that you shouldn't take it when pg. I told her that I didn't agree because Met helps with progesterone levels, or something. I just wish I could speak to someone who knows what they're talking about, and also takes me seriously.
Take care xx
Hello Ladies, Just stumbled on your thread by accident - what you are talking about makes sense to me...
I'll try to be brief....!
diagnosed pcos after ttc for about a year (knew something was wrong because my cycles were so long - sometimes 70 days +)
Was put on Metformin and sent down the IVF route because of DP's slightly low normality sperm count.
Not long after this DH was diagnosed with testicular cancer so IVF was put on hold.
In the meantime I did Metformin and accupunture and within a few months cycles settled down to 36 days and I got EWCM every month which I know isn't conclusive but a fairly good indication of ovulation?
DH's treatment included chemo which gave him 50/50 chance of infertility so we carried on down down the IVF route with frozen sperm.
We had 2 attempts - first didn't work, 2nd did but had a really slow hcg rise which ended up in mc at 8 weeks (never progressed past gestational sac)
Through all this carried on with metformin (cycles kept stable at 36 days bar a little blip after mc)
A couple of weeks ago we were due to make an appointment to see if the chemo had effected DH's fertiltity further when I felt aware of tingling in my boobs... did a test and to my massive surprise I was pregnant!!
I haven't had my hcg measured but I've been using the cb conception indicators tests and It seems to be climbing as it should?
Had a scan at what I thought was dead on 6 weeks only to see another empty sac (throughly devastated at the prospect of exactly the same thing happening again!)
On thursday I begged my GP to get me in to the EPAU unit so they could confirm mc and help me sort it out... to my total shock and delight was a little yolk sac, baby and heartbeat - que tears! My dates were 4 days out and that made all the difference.
I'm still worried that pcos puts me at increased risk of mc but I feel that the odds of that have slipped at least a little.
Going to carry on with the metformin until 3 months and hope it helps keep this bean sticky!!
I wish you lots of luck in your quests x
Ah. I see.
I've read that Met should be introduced gradually, e.g. 250mg each day for the first week, 500 for the second, etc. Then the side effects aren't as severe. I'd like to be on it, in case I do fall pg, so that I have a better chance of producing the required hCG to carry the pg to term, rather than m/c-ing in the first few weeks.
I don't suffer with bad acne, but being overweight from insulin resistance has caused a few skin complaints that I'm none too proud of. My cycles have been regular for the past few years, in that I get PMT every month, I want to 'do the deed' at certain times every month, and I have a couple of extra spots just before AF time... But AF often doesn't come. Everything but the actual period. It's weird. And it has been the same since puberty; before I started to gain weight.
Ah no, the u/s was because I hadn't had AF since starting Met so it was just a look inside IYSWIM. It has coincided with being CD21 thats all. The only monitoring on Clomid I am having is the CD21 blood test.
I've never had the progesterone before and didn't really want to take it so I am so chuffed I didn't need to. Last time I had cycles of 50ish days on Met alone.
I have lost a bit of weight through Met, mainly loss of appetite rather than the dreaded "met" belly. I haven't had bad side effects on it although I am not overweight, thats not one of my PCOS symptoms - its acne and no AF for me!!
I hope they give you Met, its brilliant.