Lucy wishes she hadn't done quite such a thorough job of shaving her bikini line for the gynaecologist yesterday - it's now as itchy as hell!!

ok new to site but mine would def be "sick of hearing about everyone elses pregnancy when I can't, but donations to vasectomy reversal are welcomed"

is wondering how everyone is?

paddington is also wondering when dp is going to ask her for her hand in marriage!!! im getting rather impatient!

paddington is sure the couple of drinks she had at lunchtime has not helped her frustrations of no baby and no ring

yes... paddington is having a virtual tantrum

Just bumping thread to the top.

paddington is offering some hand holding for ray.
paddington is taking some time out to have a think about what she wants and prepares herself for the worst when she has her scan next fri.

good luck for 2moro ray- fingers crossed.

paddington also thinks we could all do with some good news!

Ray is very very pleased that Thandekas scan went well will be routing for you to get to 12 weeks.

Ray is so so so fed up why cant she be pregnant FFS she has soooooooooooooo had enough of this ttc shite.

Ray is also shattered as work is doing her head in and she is on the 2ww.

Ray has her appointment for the blood clinic on weds, she is wondering if they will tell her not to have more children and thinks she will tell them to shove it where the sun doesnt shine if they do.

Ray will have a another baby she will!!!! and Ray is happy she realy is. (sobs)

Ray wonders if that was convincing enough. (yeah right)

...has just been diagnosed with PCOS. That explains almost everything.

paddington has read heat and reveal watched crap tv booked her silly scan in and had lunch... oh and googled bad times. why oh why cant i be pregnant

thats great news hun. well my consultant doesnt work tuesdays so am stuck in limbo now. had very sore boobs and still ust bit of silly discharge ( silly being a technical term you know) went home from work just burst into tears- i never cry at work
i dont think i should take the clomid until i see er fresh blood?

paddington is happy for thandeka

Thandeka tiptoes on to this thread- whispers scan went okay- bean 28mm and all good for dates. Thandeka is a relieved bunny and going back to work tommorrow- boo, not sure how I will teach a class of thirty kids when I would quite like to vomit on them!

thanks ladies for your advice i still have sore boobs few cramps and pain on my left side by bottom of my ribs- this is prob irrelevant. Still just bit of discharge but hey early days just annoying cant book scan as its not er a fresh bleed yet. Will call doc but got rest of wk to go. Some much luck thandeka will be thinking of you while meant to concentrating on school parents evening to discuss reports that gives me hope on the hsg front though hoping am ok. How you doing lissie? X x

paddington, my HSG was very uncomfortable, but worth it. i got pg that month. make sure yuo ask to see the screen and they explain the results. i was really quite bolshy about it.

thandeka, thank you. I had heard that it was possible but wasnt sure if it was that possible iykwim. just have to hope now!

lissie is fed up of pollyanna/antichrist mood swings and is pretty sure that dh is losing patience with her. only one more month of clomid left.

Thandeka was thinking about Lissie and how to explain to her about the magic egg travelling to the other tube and came up with a handheld way to do it- bear with me:

Make a fist
Then stick out your little finger and thumb about from the fist (so only three fingers are curled in)
now bend your little finger and thumb towards each other so they kind of look like bull horns.

You with me?

Right you fist bit is your womb, and your little fingers and thumb is your fallopian tubes (this is kind of a 3d representation of how it looks). Imagine your fingernail is your ovary. As you can see the ovaries are kind of closer together than you expect from the diagrams (2d representations are crap). In Lissie's case she is missing a finger but the finger nail is still there- so the egg doesn't have to travel miles and miles to the other side of the womb it just has to pop across into the other fallopian tube (ovaries are kind of suspended outside the fallopian tube its not a sealed system- then the egg gets wafted in by cilia). Hence its not impossible for you to get pregnant from ovulating on your tubeless side.

Did that make any sense? help at all?

Paddington no real ideas on that front but I know as soon as I started TTC my cycles started doing exactly that- normally I would just start my periods but as soon I was on AF watch they started teasing me with spotting the day before etc. EVIL so I think it is bodies playing tricks and being evil- but that isnt a scientific answer! On the HSG front - have they suggested Laparoscopy for you? Prof Robert Winston suggests this as good call in women struggling to concieve and for some reason a lot of women do fall pregnant the cycle after it (more so that HSG I think but don't quote me)- again not to give false hope but it may be worth looking into- anecdotal evidence I know but a friend of mine at work was TTC for over 5 years was in early 40's had a Lap and concieved the next cycle. There was someone on mumsnet waxing lyrical about it too.

Now for my status update
Thandeka has lots of achy draggy feelings in her womb which are confusing her- she didn't have them last pregnancy at all and they are nothing like period type pain but they do feel like something has become "detached" () but then maybe this is normal part of early pregnancy. All will be revealed in the scan tommorrow. If I get past friday (10weeks1day) I have made it further than my last pregnancy so at the minute hoping for that.

on clomid til oct. Yep hsg this month not looking forward to it. Been on clomid 4 months. Its just so draining. Oh well have a more chilled week this week so it kind of cushions the blow. How you doing? X

oh sweet, its tough i know. is your HSG this month? how many more months of clomid have you?

ooh i see right off i go to google. Never had it before am gutted yet another month

lissie would like to thank lovely mn update friends for perking her up. pretty sure good egg has been released!!

paddington, i used to get this for a few days before period. spoke to cons about it and he organised a hysteroscope which sorted it out.

paddington thinks like andy murray she is most probably out of the running this month. Thandeka i need your expert advice tmi warning though muddy brown very little discharge day before due on but no period symptoms i reckon just wicked witch being cruel. Any ideas? Hope all are ok good luck with the scan x x

paddington just loves to torture herself on google and mother and baby websites. why oh why do i do it?

paddington went shopping today and is now drinking rose and feels better.
I have also heard that you can ovulate from the tubeless side.
paddington is still awaiting but thinks more shopping should occur tomorrow or infact right now online!

Thandeka says she read on here that MrsHappy got pregnant with an egg ovulated from her tubeless side- and her repro biological knowledge says it defo is possible- the egg can somehow migrate across no mans lands (outside the womb/tubes or something!)! Anyhow not to offer false hope but trying to cheer dear Lissie up.
xxx

lissies scan showed that she has ovulated... from the tubeless side. so theres a lovely fat unused egg sitting there on good side and an endometrial layer that is 11-12mm going to waste.

lissie is sick of everything.

but lissie is v glad that everyone is ok.

on the upside paddington just saw an ad for a job she would love, love, love!

paddington thinks Thandeka's comment has put a smile on my face this morning! Got blooming parents evening next week- please let me escape somewhere!!! im off to take my very grumpy fed up of healthy eating arse off to do some shopping. paddington is going to burn some serious plastic today and will not be telling mr bear hahahaha (evil laugh emotion)

Thandeka is embarrased to admit this morning she was musing about "dildocam" and wonders if there is scope for a series of Big Beaver!

I'll get me coat

i hope you both arent leaving me!!!
Glad you are ok thandeka even though you feel rough but thats a good sign!

paddington is still fed up but looking forward to her half day at work tomorrow and going shopping to clear the blues away.

hope all is ok

x x

Hey Thandeka, following the success of this thread in "Conception" I am going to start one in "Pregnancy" Hope you can join me...... and the rest of you too soon.

Thandeka lost this thread for a bit while in somerset being looked after by mother in law and sneaking into glasto when she's signed off work- naughty Thandeka!

Thandeka says yippeeee for Tigress!

Thandeka is 9 weeks today and sick as a dog and having had a week of no symptoms and convinced another MMC was imminent this is a good thing although also quite grim. (note to self fresh raspbery milkshake suprisingly tastes simply foul on the way back up)

Thandeka's next scan is Tuesday and she is keeping fingers crossed and no googling!

Thandeka sends lots of love to her fave facebookers.

xxx

paddington has had a really long, hard, hot rubbish day and cant wait until she can start another job/ got pregnant.
paddington is in a foul mood!

tigress, that fab!!! im so pleased for you, gives me hope.

lissie has to endure the dildocam again today then have a "chat" with her toxic mother.... oh the joy!

oh my thats amazing news! am so pleased!

Tigress wants you all to know that there is hope and that after 18 months in total TTC and 3 months of Clomid she got her first ever BFP today.

Baby dust to all

paddington is also worried about thandeka. Am sorry af got you ray its just heartbreaking with every month that passes. Paddington has afternoon off but is too sleepy to enjoy it

Ray is on the 7th day of her first AF post miscarriage and is feeling very numb with it all.
Ray was sooooo hoping she would be pg this month but yet again is not.

Ray doesnt know what to do she is aware that getting pg will be very dangerous for her but she still realy realy wants a baby.

Ray hopes that everyone else is ok and asks Thandeka to check in so ray can stop worrying about her.

tigress i wish i knew. i guess its just another waiting game!

Tigress is due on today, don't feel like going to come on but also don't feel anything else either. What does it mean?

Paddington will not do any more googling at all!

paddington muchly appreciates the hair strokes!
paddington understands the distress of having pregnant fb friends.

lissie if you think the job is right for you then go for it!

thats crap <more hairstrokes>

lissie has been offered a job working with former workmates (headhunted no less) and is scared. i left the restaurant 5y ago to have ds.

Oh good. 2 more pregnant friends on F/B. Hoorah.

<hairstroke for paddington>

Paddington has been googling and now feeling physically sick with despair and frustration could cry but have too much to bloody do!
paddington honestly doesnt know how much more she can take. i think its time to get another job and get this bloody lap test done then my decision is made for me.

paddington apologises for massive rant!

lissie's rage levels have hit an all time high, or at least they would if she could stop crying at the hollyoaks graduation ceremony.

lissie is very happy that thandeka's scan went well, and would like to remind her that at this stage dating/sizes can be out by as much as 2w depending on your cervix etc.

paddington is at work and wishes she was not. I also am now on my two week wait and dreading it.

paddington is at work and wishes she was not. I also am now on my two week wait and dreading it.

Tigress is on day 31 (UCL 35) and is pretty sure she is not preggers as not nearly enough BDing was done at no where near the right time of month but is still holding out hope and holding her breath for the next 4 days anyway.

paddington is wondering if everyone is ok? paddington is not feeling amazing.

maisie thinks all this info about getting pregnant by age 35 should have been available last year when she was 34. Not when she's heading for 36.

Tigress has been speaking to a friend who is worse off than her on the TTC stakes and feels sad for the whole world

Ray is glad that Thanekas scan went weel. and says NO MORE GOOGLING it is very evil.

Rayis hurting so much inside she just wants to cry ALL THE TIME. life is sooooooooo unfair.

paddington is so glad thandeka's scan went well. please dont google its evil but i always do it! im sure emby will grow grow grow- take some babybio!

boodleboot- your ex friend sounds horrible!

paddington is very sad she cant cut her hours, get pregnant, be married.

paddington thinks the clomid brings out the worst in her inc. tantrums before teatime!

paddington is refusing to watch anything on tv about babies this evening.

Gracie thinks google is evil amd that Thankdeka shouldn't do nasty googling if it makes her worry.

Tigress has decided that this TTC malarky is ruling her life and every waking moment way too much and that she would like to just forget about it all. Who wants a screaming kiddy anyway! Grr.

Thandekas scan possibly didnt go fine today as googling reveals emby too small for her dates.

Thandeka's scan went fine today but she is staying in the knitted bubble until she feels it is safe to come out (probably sometime Feb 2010)

oooh paddington i had that happen to me....and i was still in weekly telphone contact with said friend....infact she only told me that she had got married as i joined facebook and she was afraid i would see her name change.....we DO NOT speak anymore

paddington cant believe she just found out her best friend at school got married and didnt even tell her!!

paddington is also very jealous that she isnt married yet or pregnant!

paddington is feeling very sorry for herself!

am so sorry your friend has upset you so much- some people are just so thoughtless and you are well within your rights to be seriously f**ed off! Hope your doing somewhat near ok

x

thandeka sorry for testing you hun! thank you very much. fingers crossed for your scan will be thinking of you. let us know.

paddington agrees that any negative pregnancy test is evil.

paddington is enjoying mr paddington bear looking after her and is enjoying all this bedding!

paddington still does not like her job and wishes really she didnt have to bother at all!

Ray is seriously F*ing P*ed off with her friend who has just has a baby a week ago and thinks its ok to get upset with Ray becoz she didnt phone her before yesterday. Even though Ray has been working 8 til 6 everyday other than sun and yesterday and has had to deal with being told she has a serious medical condition that has caused her miscarriages by letter and had been trying to get her head round it.

Ray is also fed up with biting her tongue everytime this friend makes a stupid comment like ' i would so anything to swop places with you and go on holiday' and' No i dont think having this baby will be worth it after being so uncomfortable' Ray is now going to tell her friend exactly what she thinks about comments like that.

Ray has decided that who needs enemys when you have friends like that.

rainbow yawn i love it! defo had one of those recently. Am fine so long as you dont mention eggs or soggy breadsticks.
barf!

ooops i have to run.......

A joyful parent?

A jobless peabrain?

A jumbo pastry?

Tigress wonders if this mention of food might send some of our ladies to the loo for a rainbow yawn?

a juicy person

a jelly penis

a jewish peanut?

Justice of the Peace or some Mumsnet anacronym that I haven't heard before?

...is now a J.P.

Tigress pats herself on the back for having created a fabulously cathartic thread for not only her but lots of other lovely ladies no matter what their stage.

Tigress has got agreement from Mr Tiger for more sex next month... but saying that won't know for at least another 10-14 days if she will be requiring his services anyway.

Tigress has finally agreed to see friend with small child and pregnant bump, just have to be strong.

Tigress is getting up to 88mph in honour of other ladies on here

Boodleboot hates clearblue tests that say NOT PREGNANT {even tho it is far too early for them to say PREGNANT}

Thandeka's clever husband is off out tonight but will book him for weekend to work on it.

Thandeka says 14mm sounds great for follicles (usually mature follicle is between 12-18 so you may ovulate shortly) this article has more about follicle size and fertility. Cor you're really testing me will have to have a rummage for my uni notes.

Thandeka is bricking it for her scan tommorrow and is hoping her little emby has a heartbeat that is beating but also that intends to continue beating for at least the next 75 years. (last early scan with last pregnancy had heartbeat but still miscarried so even if there is a HB at 7weeks I won't be reassured until past 12 weeks.)

Thandeka is hoping if all is well tommorrow she can get another scan at 9 weeks and then another at 12 weeks for heartbeat checking purposes.

thank you for welcoming me into the safe knitted bubble i hope you enjoy the sofas!

Paddington wonders if Thandeka or anyone for that matter knows anything about follicles? is my 14mm one enough?
Paddington has become very protective of her follicle and it not afraid to admit it!

Paddington also regrets not asking to keep her follicle picture so she could admire it!

Paddington isnt at work today... can you tell?

Gracie is wondering how Thandeka's clever husband is getting on with the time machine invention.

Gracie welcomes Paddington into our safe knitted bubble and thinks knitted sofas sound good.

paddington is loving the time machine idea

paddington was naughty at the weekend and went out with the girls... and had the best time!

paddington also has a nice big follicle for day 12 and the doc was happy with it and her womb lining.

paddington thinks mr paddington bear is being so amazing why cant i give him a baby

paddington is wishing she could join everyone is the safe knitted bubble so she wont keep wondering if her tubes are blocked and if she will ever have a child. i'll knit some comfy sofas and blankets

Thandeka says panic ye not ladies- DH is very very clever engineer what went to Cambridge (and graduated top of his class- [very proud wife emoticon] and now is a Patent attorney- so will get him on the case- he can invent it - then patent it (in all our names of course) and then we can make our millions out of fast forwarding women first to their BFP and then through the first trimester and then past the birth.

Is a genius plan!

Gracie thinks when the men in white coats arrive to take her away they'll be able to buy one get one free and take Ray too!

Gracie is going to watch Back to the Future tonight to look for time machine creating tips.

Gracie thinks the part for her and Thandeka should have clever internet too so she can't look up any pregnancy problems and scare herself to death. But definately needs 24 hour Mumsnet!

Oh Thandeka that sounds like a very safe place and then when i do get pg i can venture out from my padded blackout room and join you and Gracie in the safe sunshine room.
Ray thinks once this has happened we can rent the blackout room out.

Ray is googleing time machine but it doesnt seem there is one available i will get to making one as soon as i can although Ray thinks this may take some time as she has NO idea what she is doing at all. But i will try.

Ray the bubble for you has blackout blinds and an internet connection for mumsnet but not for Facebook or email for family members. Is a very safe place.

xxx

Ray has decided she will stay indoors FOREVER or until she gets pg at least so she doesnt have to see everyone else Pg and having babies.

Or Ray wonders if we can make a room for her in the bubble so she cant see anything and therefore will be safe in there.

Ray is pissed off as she wrote a long post and it got deleted.

Ray will start again.

Ray has so far today, cleaned the kitchen, dusted, cleaned bathrooms, hoovered and washed floors. Washed the bedding on hers and DDs beds, done 4 loads of other washing. Hung some on the line waited for it to dry got it in and hung the rest out, cleaned the windows and is now putting the bedding back on the bed.

Ray is symptoms spotting when she shouldnt be. Is having Vivid weird dreams is hungry ALL the time and wants to cry(could be PMT) HOWEVER rays cat brought her a pressie this morn (small Bird) and the only time Rays cat has ever done that is when Ray has been pg. and therefore ray wonders if she is pg.

Ray knows she is getting herself at it and she is NOT pg.

Right Ray will now finish putting the bedding back on the bed and will have to do some ironing.

Oh and did Ray mention that her sister is Pg again (her baby is 4 months) and therefore that will be over 20 babies in her family since she has started TTC.

Ray wonders how many more people she will have to watch get exactly what she wants without any Problems.

Gracie wants to know if anyone has a time machine she can borrow. To take herself and Thandeka past the scary 12 week mark and deliver Ray to her consultant appointment to get some answers, some treatment and to find her will to live.

Ray is actually losing the will to live

Oooh Thandeka is clearly too nice too her DH. This morning no milk or anything edible for morning sickness in fridge. Wake DH up (who slept in spare room as went out last night) to ask him to go to tescos so Thandeka could eat and try and get rid of extreme hunger/nausea. He refused (is hungover) and said he would go in a few hours so Thandeka had to stumble out to Tescos trying not to vom at all the foods on the shelves- it was painful. What I should have done is played "sometimes it's hard to be a woman" at full volume and jumped on the bed until he woke up and went! To be fair though I have been lying on the sofa since then and so far he has fetched me iced sparkling water, raspberries, made me a chip and cheese butty and just made me a lemon and ginger tea. So maybe he isnt so bad.

Thandeka's status updates are a bit long!

Gracie is helping Thandeka to knit a bubble we can both hide in and is bringing cotton wool to make it comfy.

Gracie thinks next time Thandeka's DH gets a hangover or man-flu he is in for loud music, bouncing on the bed, bright lights and over cheerfullness from Thandeka!

Thandeka is pleased that Ray has a diagnosis and hope this means good things for her asap! Also glad Tigress managed the ladysnot identification skills so I didn't have to mention the cup of water test- something about if it floats or sinks but can't remember what- then there is the letting it dry on a slide and if it.... (ack can't remember either- Thandeka is losing her lady snot identification skills- some zoologist she turned out to be!

Thandeka is holding Gracie's hands as she is in exact same boat (suspected ectopic (day in a&e last week) waiting for next scan and needs around 8days for this one to survive longer than last one). Thandeka is knitting a bubble and could do with some cotton wool as a comfy lining so shall we share a little safe haven?

Thandeka is 6weeks and 3 days today, which was the day in her last pregnancy she had a viable scan and saw the heartbeat and then the emby died about a week later.

Thandeka is also going to murder DH if he mentions one more foodstuff with the intention of triggering her morning sickness so he can laugh at her. The mere mention of "Eggs" were this mornings retchorama.

I know what you mean Tigress.

Tigress is stronmgly considering removing all her "friends" on Facebook who have put 50 identical pictures of their new borns

Tigress has never felt this low and fed up

Hello again everyone.

Gracie spent a fun friday in hospital with a suspected ectopic.

Gracie has worked out this Bean needs to stay alive for another 8 days to have survived longer than the previous one.

Gracie is wondering whether the men in white coats might need to take her away.

Gracie wants to tell people who "just know this one will be ok" to bugger off, I wish I was so confident!!

Gracie really hopes this abdominal pain is just my Bean holding on too tight, and not the start of another miscarriage.

Gracie daren't join an antenatal thread in case its tempting fate.

Gracie has decided being pregnant isn't one of her strong points.

Gracie is wondering whether making herself a cotton wool outfit to wrap herself in might help.

Tigress successfully identified ladysnot the other day without the assistance of any of her new virtual friends. Her and Mr Tiger have done the deed and were planning to again shortly although Mr Tiger has just played 36 holes of golf and has another 18 Sunday morning at 8am. Tigress doubts there will be any cub-making due to Mr Tiger's exhaustion!

Ray got a letter from the consultant yesterday and she has Factor V Leiden and may also have Protein S def. She is wondering why they are making her wait 6 weeks for an appointment when she wants to get sorted NOW.

Ray is unsuire whether to be glad or upset by this diaognosis.

Ray has just found out that her sister who has a 4 month old baby and a shit relationship is pregnant again.

Ray actually feels very numb at the moment and is wondering when the emotions will kick in.

Ray is glad Thandeka is still throwing up and thinks that a whole apple would have been a very good party trick.

Thandeka threw up a whole apple this morning and is sadly very excited by this(Thandeka hastens to add it wasn't whole on way back up). Thandeka also wishes she could put on her real facebook about how sad she is about her friend's death but since not everyone knows yet its not really appropriate. So if its okay with you Thandeka is going to put it here:

Thandeka is going to miss Kiran a lot- she was the life and soul of the party- and gatherings shall be subdued without her spark in it.

paddington is shamelessly avoiding doing work by being on mumsnet.

paddington is jealous of lucky friends who are not enduring the hell she is and still going out, spending lots of money and generally having a good carefree time

paddington is also wondering if dp gets drunk tonight will she get lucky? Oh no wait thats what happens when you have an actual sex life not a making baby sex life*.

Paddington is pondering/worrying she wont get pregnant by drunk sperm if she got lucky anyhow

*paddington realises this is only true for herself not a generalisation of others.

paddington is trying to write her parent's evenings... but unfortuntely she just cant be arsed! Us knitting teachers need to stick together!
The freezing qualities of snot- oh my lord!

Ooooh Thandeka sees Paddington is a teacher too. Oh the joys of parents evening- I have Y9 coming up and am praying I am still signed off for it.

Thandeka is also jealous of 3weeks just in case sex- since she is still banned for time being. She is becoming the ice queen! (Thandeka then ponders the freezing qualities of lady snot and thinks she should probably shhhhhhhh now!)

Paddington's drink nearly came out of her nose! when she read Thandeka's comment on lady snot coming out of her's!! You have to stay here and we can knit together a whole knitted virtual world (oooh)

paddington is very jealous dp is going out while im writing parent's evening thingys and reports i so would love to have to boozy night out!

paddington is also on the verge of giving up hope and is having a tight month and cant quite justify ovulation sticks until next week- it will be too late oh well 3 weeks of sex just incase!!

sounds grim but once you get used to it - checking cervix position is dead easy- should be high soft and open when most fertile.

Lady snot- best phrase ever and ewcm soooo needs to be rebranded as that!

Thandeka is keeping fingers crossed for Tigress and also trying to keep her breakfast down- strangely discussions of ladysnot doesn't make her boak but the smell of mango juice, and the thought of soggy courgette does!

Tigress seems to have made a virtual friend who wants to help her identify lady snot!

Thanks for the offer of advice Thandeka, the next few days are "supposed" to be the right days so will be keeping my wits about me to notice any signs. Intrigued by "firkling"

Thandeka once thought she ovulated out of her nose in a moment of full on TTC insanity- she blew her nose and got all excited about the EWCM and then remembered it was in wrong place!

Thandeka studied reproductive physiology for a while at university (only module got a first for!) and has charted for years so is happy to try and help Tigress work it out if she wants (but draws the line at furkling for anyone elses EWCM )

Thandeka is also aware her obsession with furkling for EWCM (her own not anyone elses!) probably doesn't help her win friends and influence people!

Tigress is late replying but defintely thinks Thandeka should stay on the thread.

This isn't supposed to be a bitter place, just a place to vent what you cannot write elsewhere. I think we scared someone else off a few days ago without meaning to

Anyway, what are we here for? Facebook updates!

Tigress thinks the whole EWCM thing is bollocks and cannot accurately pinpoint when the bloody hell she is ovulating, Clomid or no Clomid.

Ray does not beleive Thandeka is being weird at all and agrees with her completely that that is the meaning to life, or perhaps she is and Ray is also weird and needs sleep so will shuffle off to bed and hope tomorrow is a better day and she will be understond.

Before ray goes she thinks there should a tired face also.

Thandeka is shuffling off to bed and shall mention it no more and tommorrow a new dawn of humans shuffling along trying to be understood shall begin and so the cycle continues.

Thandeka sometimes wonders if she is too weird for her own good but also wonders if above update is the secret to the meaning of life, then remembers she is being weird again and probably needs sleep.

Thandeka says night night.

Ray didnt believe it would be contentious as she is stupidly niave and thought people would understand what she was saying. I am not emotionally strong enough at the moment and therefore will refrain.

Ray LOL at Thandeka shuffling off, as whatever she said went right over my head. Agian ray believes that she is stupidly niave or just plain stupid.

Ray now thinks we should forget about it and start sending positive vibes to Thandeka bean for it to stay just where it is.

man I sooo posted that with the "I HATE Fluffy" written at the bottom before I edited my sentence before so was about to delete that bit but accidently posted it,

So managed to compound my crime.

Thandeka hopes Ray is amused at Thandeka's sorry efforts to win friends and influence people in a cyber world!

Thandeka thinks Ray should definitely still comment on things as variety of comment is what makes mumsnet so interesting to read but perhaps if Ray thinks she is posting something other posters might find contentious then Ray should consider how mentally strong enough she is for any potential fallout. Posting things of contention is enjoyable but I only ever do it when feeling very strong and secure in myself (which is rare) so I think I may have turned into a "fluffy LOL lmao Hun" poster. Oh god Thandeka realises she has just managed to just do what she was advising against so shuffles off sheepishly and apologises to anyone who enjoys fluffing ;).

I HATE Fluffy

Ray hopes Thandeka can knit fast enough as it will get alittle crowded, and ray thinks the 50" plasma with dvds is just what we need for the next few months and if ray gets pg in that time thandeka will have to knit some more so we can stay til i get to 3 months.

Ray thanks Thandeka for her advise and promises she will not comment on things anymore as she hates upsetting anyone, it is better to keep ones mouth shut. Unless she knows the people involved well.

mermaid says she hates facebook but offers ray a big hug.xx

Thandeka offers Ray81 space in her knitted bubble of sanctuary, and starts to knit furiously so she can knit a spare room - ooh and maybe a conservatory so there is room for everybody! (Thandeka also wonders about knitting a 50" plasma screen with endless supply of mindless DVD's to keep our mind of it.

Thandeka did read the post on the other thread and can see how it all got misconstrudled and is patting Ray's head from afar (in a non netmums "hugs" way!) as sometimes posters on threads can be quick to react without thinking about the people or the situation behind the post so in cases where the internet has caused upset sometimes is better to step away from the internet and be with real life friends for a bit who get the body language and intention too behind what you are trying to say. (I speak as someone endlessly flamed when first venturing onto forums- and I just didn't get what I was saying was wrong- I mean anybody who votes tory/drinks nescafe/sends kids to private school is just a complete imbecile right? ;) )

Ray thanks Thandeka for agreeing to be an expert witness at her murder trial and therefore getting her off.

Ray is very upset as she has managed to upset people on another thread and didnt mean too

Ray cant stop crying and also needs a bubble to live in so she can pretend shit doesnt happen to nice people.

Ray sincerly hopes that Thandeka keeps her little bean as that will cheer her up no end

Thandeka agrees to be expert witness at Ray81's murder trial citing immense pressure, temporary insanity and victims complete insensitivity for justifiable homicide. You'll get off no bother.

Thandeka managed not to vomit on masseusse but did get a runny nose during it and was under chinese water snot torture with the drips as she was face down with her head in a hole!

Thandeka's masseusse also taught her how to cast off on her knitting so Thandeka can finally finish the safe little bubble she has been knitting for herself to live in for time being.

Ray is LOL at Thandeka vomiting on the masseuse wish i could be a fly on the wall.
Ray is also very glad that Thaneka is back on the "what will be will be and we'll see road" i do believe that is a very safe place to be. ray too went far to far down the " everything will be fine road" and it realy hurts when it is not fine.

On another note,

Ray is seriously pissed off as her friend who is due to give birth just called her to moan about not being able to sleep and being uncomfortable and just wanting the baby out. When ray told her that it would all be worth it when the baby arrives said friend then proceeded with " no i dont think it will".
Ray wonders if she would be able to kill said friend and be able to use "insanity" as a defense and get off going to prison.

Thandeka is grateful to Ray81 for reminding her of this as otherwise Thandeka was going too far down the "Is going to be fine" road and we all know how much of a bump that can be when you come off it. Now safely back onto the "what will be will be and we'll see road" which is a much safer place to be. But trying to steer clear of the doom and gloom "it'll never work for me" road as that road contains pointless panic at this stage!



Thandeka is about to have a full body massage (antenatal safe) and is going to try not to vomit her carrot and coriander soup all over her masseuse!

Thandeka congrats thats great news, i for one think you should stay here.

i realy dont want to alarm you but i was being sick right up until i had the erpc with my mmc 3 weeks ago and i was sure s i was being sick nothing could be wrong. please please dont read too much into anything just take it as it comes, i know thats so hard as i have had 4 mc and know i will be an emotional wreck if i fall again but have promised myself i will NOT get my hopes up until that baby is in my arms. i realy wish you all the best and so hope this works out for you

Thandeka tiptoes on to say she threw up her breakfast this morning (never vommed in MMC pregnancy) and blood test results show HCG is doubling normally.

Thandeka is off for her bloodtests today to check they have doubled as expected. The fact she nearly vommed last night when DH reeled of a list of foods such as breadsticks and hoummous (which I love normally) is hopefully a good sign? I never felt this bad in the MMC pregnancy.

Thandeka also feels she should maybe disappear from this thread if people want it to stay a TTC one, but she does value its support while still in the MC danger zone and under investigation from the hospital. But promises faithfully not to write silly insensitive posts (on here and in RL FB) if this one works out this time as she knows how evil it is to read such posts. So is it okay if I still hang here for a little while?

Tigress has "booked" her husband for a few days over the coming weekend. Lets make a baby for next March! Eyes on the prize!

Ray doesnt give a shit if you can now feel your baby moving. she should be feeling that now but she isnt so just fuck off and stop telling me about your pg I DONT WANT TO KNOW.

secretly excited for lissielou Ohhhhhhhhhhh so hope it is your month

lissielou- fingers crossed for you and your jam tart eating coffee throwing upness!

Thandeka- how are you doing?

paddington is trying to work out what maternity pay and other money she would get and has given up as she is doubting one it will even happen and two its darn complicated!

paddington is just wondering when it will happen.

Glasto wants to rewind marriage back to before wanting babies, and rekindle sex life.

Glasto wants a fully operational DH.

Glasto is going to continue de-friending her FB friend list everytime some ungrateful cow moans about being fat, suffering from morning sickness, being pregnant with a 14 month old and not knowing how it happened etc.

Glasto wants to eat cake and not worry about expanding waistline.

Glasto isn't pregnant, just fat, you inconsiderate feckers!

lol lissie is very grateful to thandeka for all her kind words, off to eat jam tarts now!

Well you see cafedirect also contains the magic feelgood ingredient too so vomiting with that for anything other than "upthedufferness" is highly unlikely. So fingers firmly firmly crossed. When can you test.......?

Thandeka is secretly very very excited for Lissielou (to the extent she nearly fell off her sofa this morning when she read the post!) but trying not to show it because we all hate false hope.

lol, no nestle products in the lissie house. purged when i became a fully fledged mner twas cafe direct.

Thandeka needs to know whether it was nescafe in which case the vomit could have been a physical manifestation of the disgust at Nestle's babymilk policies. But any other brand and I am very very hopeful for Lisslielou!
xxx

lissie had a bit of cramping yesterday, so got all upset and told dh that her period was on its way, but has just thrown up a cup of coffee... oooh...

Thanks Lissie that means alot (and thanks Paddington21 and MaisieBoo too).

Thandeka would be completely lost without the support of the wonderful mumsnetters.

xxx

that all sounds v good. when i had my scan with ep at 5w they couldn't see a blardy thing. i know how scary it is, but keeping evrything crossed!

continuous pain in left hand side not horrendous pain but enough to stop me sleeping and a tiny bit of spotting (LHS pain is usual for me and previous investigations yielded nothing but this was worse than normal so though better get it checked out especially because of the spotting- which went away but has now possibly come back . Scan revealed sac in right place (phew and oops should have put that in previous post) and inconclusive fetal pole- possibly 4mm (which if it is is better than I got last time) No heartbeat but thats because at 5weeks 3 days is way too early! Bloods were HCG 7000 and being repeated tuesday at 11am. Am signed off work for the time being. (full boring post about the adventure is at the bottom of the 4 weeks and bricking it thread).

thandeka, omg! what were the symtoms? when is your repeat blood test?

Oh hun ((lots of hugs)) fingers crossed for tues. Hopefully all will be ok. let us know xxx

Read earlier that you'd gone to A&E, glad to hear you're home now. Get plenty of rest, be thinking of you on Tuesday

Thandeka spent the day in A&E with a suspected ectopic. Since they let her home again it probably isn't but now the shitting herself until her repeat scan in 10 days and praying her HCG has gone up by Tuesday.

paddington is thinking about writing a list of everything she wants to buy ( i keep seeing things that i think are a good idea but im sure i wont remember them) for when she one day gets herself a bubba.

*does anyone think this is a good idea? or am i tempting fate?*

Aw hun... got my fingers crossed for you! 44 cycles- my oh my thats a lot of bedding! x

actually, nope, this is our 44th cycle.

lissie is starving please let this be a sign. worked out that this is our 42nd ttc cycle.

Paddington is also oddly feeling rather horny inbetween her very annoying af cramps!

paddington wishes dp would take her shopping and glad she didnt go to the zoo today but sat and made herself feel sick eating junk and watching films

trinityhrino has sliced her hand on glass so she wants chocolate, lots of it and someone to take the kids away so she can nap

Thandeka is horny as hell and wants to shag the afternoon away cept she can't incase it induces another MC (Last MC was just after back from honeymoon- so even though unlikely lots of shagging caused it- we won't take the risk). Soooooo frustrating though especially since in all the months TTC it is sooooo hard to get in the mood sometimes and now I am - and I bloody can't!

hahaha paddington is choking on her crisps (i know naughty, naughty) at the babybio comment!

Paddington also booked herself up for her scan( already crapping one's knickers about it) and accupunture

lol thats an excellent point!

Thandeka sends Lissilou some babybio fertiliser to sprinkle on her cornflakes.

(hang on perhaps not isn't that for plants only!? You'd think docs would have come up with a Babybio for women TTC too!)

lissie is officially in the 2ww and hates knowing how many eggs she had, because what if none of them fertalize?

Tigress has realised that she and DH only now BD at the fertile times. Not good, more tiffin PLEASE!

Paddington has convinced herself she has blocked tubes as well. Paddington should stop looking on the internet and drinking disgusting herbal tea!

paddington has decided against ferning her tongue!
Thanks for all your extremely good advice. AF showed her head this morning. I'm disappointed but relieved i dont have to have provera and more hassle. Am now dreading the scanning for follicles... more things to go wrong

Paddington does not want people judging her follicles

Thandeka laughs out loud at Tigress and completely agrees! (Thandeka secretly thinks her own children won't be as annoying as her friends children but in reality also thinks whisper all kids are annoying and exhausting!) But shhhh don't tell anyone- especially not facebook!

Tigress is confused. Everyday I feel I want to have children but then when I have to spend time with friends' children I wonder why.

Odd

Glad it was helpful- is kinda my new career too- am sort of working in sexual health now. The benefit of using a monitor over opks is it reads and interprets the result for you- none of this "am I/aren't I" ovulating. I have used persona for years but it does sometimes miss my ov but now I have started weeing on the test sticks anyhow so now I am such a dork I can tell you whether a persona test stick is positive or not despite there being no written instructions to tell you this since the monitor is supposed to check it for you!

By the way you can also monitor your fertility by looking at the ferning pattern of your saliva too using a special microscope- my advice- don't bother- way way to difficult to see anything! And big hassle as have to wait 5 mins before reading result etc.

Thandeka thank you so, so, much! What a fountain of knowledge you are I will definitely be finding my cervix in the coming days!
Great link to the site I will getting some training on testing i have a thermometer and a blank chart already will photocopy and the coming cycle i will monitor my temps all month.
I will also be using preseed as this and my last cycle clomid did dry me up a bit. I havent felt like i ovulated like i did in the 1st month... hopefully the higher dose should do the trick.. i really hope!

Found a monitor on amazon for £50 so going to getting myself that too. is it better than normal tests do you think?

Paddington is so pleased someone has finally answered the questions she was too shy to ask.

Its not a dumb question AT ALL (and no doc would link knowing where your cervix was to mothering abilities!)- heck the vast majority of women wouldn't know what a cervix looks like if it bit them on the nose! By the way it feels like the tip of your nose! My cervix is in an odd place so you do have to rummage (well not you I mean me obviously!) http://www.beautifulcervix.com/ is a great place to get an idea (graphic pics!) but basically you just have to get used to what is normal for you and correlate it with your other signs so you can compare what is normal for you (no good checking mid month for whether its high or low as hard to tell you need to be able to check it comparitively). I check mine while sat on the loo just after first morning wee- not every morning just every few days and probably everyday when coming up to fertile time- is very quick and easy to do but it did take me about 3 months of doing it before I got to grips with it (as it were!)

Temping yup- first thing in am. - excellent book to help you with this is "taking charge of your fertility" by Toni Weschler and you can get free lessons from an NFP practitioner by following this link (rest of that website is helpful too)

Actually sorry I missed bit about you being on clomid- this may have thrown your cycles out or lengthened your luteal phase so it makes it trickier- but if you do have your dose increased, by charting your cycles you should know more definitively when you ovulate. (although clomid may trigger more than one ovulation in a cycle? fraid I don't know much about clomid)

Oh and disharge- on that front again its a good idea to get an idea of what is normal for you (making sure its not an infection) and keep a record of it - clomid apparently dries you out a bit (on the EWCM front anyhow) so good you have lots (and not to offer false hope but it can be a sign of early pregnancy). Seriously I can't recomend charting enough for getting to grips with your body and how it works and fertilityfriend is a great website to store all your data on and work out your stats.

The test sticks are here unfortunately I can't find the link to the monitor but it was a brand new one on ebay on at buy it now or make and offer. I made an offer for £50ish I think and got it.

Ooops and this has gone a bit off-topic but my status uppdate would now be

Thandeka is enthusiastically waxing lyrical about her cervix with strangers on an annonymous internet forum.

paddington is also hugging thandeka after hearing about her crappy day. Have tomorrow off it sounds like you need it and if you get sick pay take thurs and fri off with 'sickness' maybe. Look after number one hun.

Hope all is ok xx

Thandeka. could you send me the link that would be amazing. im glad you did reproductiveness at uni as if you wouldnt mind at all could you help me???... how on early do i check the positioning of my cervix i dont really get this high and low thing... dumb question i realise but if i ask my doctor, one is slightly concerned she may think if i dont know that, than i obviously cannot be a good mother... stupid i know. Also temping i guess that is 1st thing in the morning when i wake before i move? I still producing a lot of discharge what does that mean in your opinion.

Talked to doc... wait another week then test. if nothing will have period brought on and monitoring with 100mg clomid instead of 50.

Facebook status tonight is... why is my boss so nosy at 7 months pregnant do not tell me i just need to wait! I do realise thank you! No i dont want to talk about when i start ivf i am not bloody planning on it!

Tonights FB status I wish I could write (but can't due to amount of colleagues on there!)

Thandeka fucking hates her job and the ridiculous issue that caused a shedload of stress, trauma and tears today and it can't be good for the tiny emby she is trying to hang onto this time only she can't tell work to fuck off and leave her alone or explain why.

but on a more lighthearted note

Thandeka wonders if vomiting in the bin in front of her class tommorrow will mean she can be sent home

Did you just only use OPK's as they can sometimes give funny reading and you can have 2LH spikes in a month- temping with a sustained thermal shift is the only way to tell if you ovulated. Sorry did reproductive phsyiology at university and am a little bit of a geek about it! I have been charting for 4 years now (mainly to avoid getting pregnant initially!) and now I can only definitively tell I have ovulated by doing the following- temping, mucus checking, cervix positioning, persona (but due to irregular ovulation it sometimes misses it so I have to use other indicators) and putting all the data into my pretty fertility friend chart which then works it out for me! Labour intensive but I'm used to it!

So are you now on day 37 or something of cycle? Perhaps you had an LH surge but not sufficient to actaully ovulate (has to be a certain threshold) and this cycle is an anovulatory one (or one where you ovulated much later). Anovulatory cycles are very common. Sorry for the info bombardment- just trying to help you find reasons for delayed AF/-ve test.

BTW I have a brand new clearblue monitor unused with three boxes of test sticks- I brought it the month I fell that ended in MMC and now I fell again it probably won't get used (if this one works out- so perhaps I shouldn't sell it until end of July!) happy to sell it at cost so think it was a £100 all in (much much cheaper than shops- RRP- £160- £100ish for monitor and £20 per box test sticks) or could try and find the links i got it from if you wanted?

Status update: Thandeka strongly recommends acuupuncture and reflexology for TTC and if North London based knows where you can get it for £15 a session (accu) and Reflexology free!

Aw bless you thandeka well actually... ( here she goes) i ovulated this cycle where on my previous 2 cycles i ovulated later. I ovulated on day 13/14. I did another opk test when i normally ovulate and it was negative.

I doubt i can talk to doc today which is so annoying as i dont start work til late but tomorrow i will have to talk to her at work

Paddington has ordered preseed and cheap poas tests. Next month she shall be ordering a clearblue fertility monitor.

Do you know when you definitely ovulated? Could it be an evil delayed ovulation leading to delayed AF?
(My ovulation day ranges from day 14- day 26 hence my cycle is 26 to 39days long- so I only can predict for definite when AF is due if I know when I ovulated as I have a fairly constant 12 day luteal phase post ov.)

Anyhow how probably teaching grandma to suck eggs so will shh now and hope you get to speak to the docs.
xxx

thank you thandeka. my doctor's secretary doesnt know if she is in today... yep seriously! i nearly blew my top!
Feel utterly rubbish and just do not know what to do with myself.

Thandeka is sending paddington a gazillion great big warm hugs.

xxxx

Paddington has just wondered why she didnt marry a nice male fertility consultant... he would know the answers!

chubbymummy I feel for you. I work with babies its awful!

thankeda well I hope you did sleep well as i am not pregnant! The digital test says. Although it hasnt been a full week since i was late... i dont know if this is a good or bad sign. I cried alot already and its not even 9am
Do you think the fact i had af pains and then they went a good sign?

Paddington is feeling utterly rubbish so its tea and chocolate for breakfast while waiting for the doctor to pick the phone up!

I LOVE THIS THREAD!!!!!!!!!!

Chubbymummy is still NOT pregnant and probably never will be so stop asking her, it really isn't helping!!!!!!!!

Chubbymummy doesn't want to hear how stressfull you find looking after your toddler and your new baby, you want to think yourself lucky you ungratefull cow!!!!!!!!

Chubbymummy is sick of hearing people moan about how fat and pregnant they are when I'm just plain fat and desperate to be pregnant!!!!!!

Chubbymummy has wasted most of her wages on pre-seed, ovulation sticks and pregnancy tests again this month with nothing to show for it!!!!!!!!

Chubbymummy just wants to go to sleep but has to summon up the energy to have sex yet again tonight because if she doesn't she could miss the fertile window!!!!!!!

Chubbymummy has been reduced to tears for the third time this month hearing peoples birth announcements when her much wanted baby would have been born around this time too.

Thandeka is not going to be able to sleep very well tonight because she is anxious to hear about Paddington's adventures with urine...... Thandeka wants to add suitable crappy pants pun into this excretion related status update but is upset she can't think of one.

Fertilityfriend is great (but the early pregnancy signs indicator is EVIL so don't pay for the VIP access- if you do you can get it and although you can turn it off I never have the willpower to keep it off and find myself thinking "oooh was that a headache- lets put it in and see what happens to my score- oh it lowered it. Actually it wasn't a headache- oooh but I need the loo better tick the frequent urination box!" Evil I tell you. sigh)

Thandeka is still trying to acquire morning sickness as that may mean this time it won't end up down the loo. But unfortunately despite heated discussions about foul smelling discharge on another thread - not even a retch to be had

paddington is crapping her pants about the morning test and resolves if this one is negative it means war! I will get pregnant and i will not take no for an answer.
... I will also take job hunting more seriously as babies and pregnant people seriously doing my head in

I totally agree with you both thankeda and tigress twoweekwait scared me! i will try the fertility friend thing though for a laugh- why not!

tigress i spend too much time on here too. I also am not going to a baby shower because i dont want to around happy oh im about to give birth people. Yet another person told me she was pregnant today and another is going to be induced tomorrow. (Sobs to one's self)

I also love this thread!

Paddington is dreading poas in the morning has her digital one all ready how depressing. Feel tired and bit headachy
This is so awfully hard!

Thandeka realises to her horror that Tigress is right - last thing at night before she went to sleep she was on mumsnet and here she is again first thing in the morning! It's an addiction I tell ya!

Yes, "relative" safety and sanity. I feel I already spend too much time on here (no offence to anyone, I am sure you all feel the same) so going over to a bad place like twoweekwait would defo be a step too far into "Crazy pre-preggo woman" land.

sigh

Tigress is spending too much time on MN and needs to get out into the real world where not everyone is as obssessed as her with the length of their cycles and when to book in sex

Thandeka has just looked at a shewee website and thinks its a step too far! (for glasto y'see!)

Thandeka looked at the twoweekwait website because Tigresswoods did and scuttles back to the relative safety and sanity of mumsnet!

Tigress has just looked at the twoweekwait website and thinks it is a step too far!

Tigress has to tell an old friend that she will not be going to her son's first birthday but will probably miss out the bit about it being because she doesn't want to spend the day with other people's babies!

Tigress is glad she started this thread, it is a fabulous cathartic outpouring.

Thandeka says to Hoops if you are come find us on the "4weeks and bricking it" thread lots of tears, fears and support.

Thandeka says to Paddington- knicker watching is acceptable- knicker sniffing isn't. (There is a evil device on fertility friend where you stick in all your early symptoms and it gives you a score out of 100 that tells you how likely it is you are pregnant. Evil! I get scores in the 80's whether am pregnant or not)

Paddington thinks she too is also amazed by her control on the poas situation. however knicker watch is constant.

Paddington is in a right state as she has just visited for the first time www.twoweekwait.co.uk website has been symptom spotting bad times!

hoops is hoping that she actually pg but dreading it if she is!!

Thandeka is incredibly impressed at Paddingtons self control in the POAS department!

belbel- same as! Why did we spend all those yewars worrying that we might get accidently preggers.

Tigress is working out when to drag her DH to bed this month....

paddington got through today and does not know how!

Paddington is also now testing wednesday as she cant quite bear the thought of another negative quite yet. As it is also digital it will be there in plain black and white.

paddington also her needles and fingers crossed for thankeda

Sorry, have also just noticed which topic this thread is in .

< duchesse backs out shame-faced >

Sorry, paddington, have just read your post; if it's any consolation this baby has been 6 years in the making.

Duchesse is very happily 29 weeks pregnant and feeling utterly idle.

(I don't want any of my clients knowing am going to have a baby to contend as well as their documents).

Thandeka is at work trying and failing not to have a stressful one, wishing she could get signed off til the end of term so she is past the MC dangerzone.

Thandeka is also keeping fingers crossed for paddington21 for tommorrow.

Is dreading work tomorrow: pregnant people everywhere who just so easily got pregnant! And having people who had babies just to dump off on her so they can go back to their high flying careers!

Paddington will smile sweetly all day while burning a rage inside

Paddington is also knitting a bubble for Thandeka and has her knitting needles crossed for her.

Paddington is thinking tuesday is a long time to wait to take another test.

Paddington is also thinking is it actually possible that she could be pregnant... oh no wait life couldnt be that easy!

Thandeka's career is teaching young people how NOT to get pregnant and is very tempted to tell them- ack sometimes its so much harder than it looks so don't worry about contraception. Could be a job dealbreaker though!

Thandeka also feels better since the lovely mumsnetters are being so kind. (But Thandeka can't mention mumsnet on her RL FB status page as currently she isn't a mum and therefore people would ask nosey questions).

lissie is terrified that she isn't pg, after all, if she cant get up the stick with 5 mature eggs then she may as well just give her womb to medical research.

lissie is holding thandeka's hand reassuringly

lissie is also wondering why she bothered wasting money on condoms and time on the pill for so many years.

*"BelBel can't believe she spent 14 years trying not to get pregnant."*

Heh. You know, I thought exactly the same thing! Made me giggle.

thinks Thandeka will be just fine, and in 8 months time will be holding a little bundle of joy!!!!

Thandeka wants to hide from the world for the next 8 weeks as she is convinced it won't work again as it is way too soon after MMC.

Thandeka is knitting a bubble to live in for the next 8 weeks and is grateful to Paddington for showing her how to cast if off (hermetically seal it).

hoops is wondering whether it is actually possible to be pg 2 weeks after an ERPC.......

I have just stumbled across this page as have been ttc for 1 year and never wanted to look at a website called 'mumsnet', BUT, hat you would want your facebook seeing what you would want your facebook status's to say made me LAUGH OUT LOUD.

The times I have wanted to write;

Belbel 'had an HSG test today'.
BelBel 'is sick of seeing you change your profile pics to a scan pic'
BelBel is beeding once more.
BelBel can't believe she spent 14 years trying nt to get pregnant.

So thank you for the best laugh I have had in ages.

Paddington will of course teach Thandeka to cast off(there are some videos on you tube i have heard if that helps. (How you feeling?)

Paddington has not bled yet but is on knicker checking patrol all the time! 1 or 2 days late one negative test... either my dates are wrong but get to tues then re test.

Paddington is going clearblue digital on tuesday!

Tigresswoods- i love that, good idea!

Amyboo wonders if af will ever arrive.

Daynee is tired of everyone saying, "Don't think about it so much...It will happen...You will have lots of babies."

Daynee is ecstatic that her teaching job is over next week...Why is it so hard to like my job right now?

Daynee stopped clomid after docs found a cyst. I got preggers on my own 3 times but had 3 mc's so I'm back to the drawing board - sticking to the old-fashioned way that seemed to work before! No more medicine or IUI!

Is it 3:00 yet???

no, lissies vomitting is NOT down to ms, but thank you for the nudge, nudge enquiries

Tigress came on a couple of days ago and is going to put next month's special days into DH's iphone as a reminder...

Thandeka... wants Paddington21 to teach her how to cast off so she can finish the foul multi-colored scarf she knitted as a distraction from TTC/MMC grief.

Why not Thandeka that would be great! But blooming mat benefits grr! I also enjoy knitting... well its more of an addiction- its like drugs!

Paddington... is trying hard not to think about tomorrow. Also worried that if she doesnt bleed tomorrow will it be friday? if its not friday did she even ovulate in the first place or could she be the p word?

Paddington... is going mad but will distract herself with her fine knitting while being made to football in which the result depends on her man's future happines.

lissie has 5 follicles, but 2 of which are on the tubed side. screw the "professional advice"

Thanks Paddington.

Today mine would be:

Thandeka regrets handing her notice in the 6 days before the results were in. Ooops no mat benefits for me if I get that far! Paddington want my old job?

Paddington... is frustrated and praying not to bleed tomorrow.

Paddington... does not know why life is so unfair and why she wasted money on condoms ever as it would not of made any bloody difference.

Paddington... would like to know why clomid makes her feel/ act like a grumpy teenager aka kevin and perry.

Paddington wants to quit her job as she is surrounded by pregnant women but cant as she needs the maternity package... but she isnt bloody pregnant!

I love this thread!

Congrats Thandeka!

at least it's not just me being a grouchy old moobag then

TOMP, with you there!

TOMP doesn't want to know how hard it is to have been TTC for 3 whole months and how devastated you are that it's not happened yet - try being in your 4th year lovey

Amyboo has no interest in photos of people's babies, scans or bumps, and doesn't want to know that you were up all night dealing with a baby with colic.

Amyboo wishes people would stop trying to find reasons for her mmc.

Amyboo doesn't want to hear about your plans to start ttc.

Amyboo thinks that only doctors should dispense medical advice.

Amyboo doesn't want to hear how you're coming off mycrogynon early so that it's "out of your system" before you ttc and you won't have a mc like I did.

Amyboo is really f*cked off with the world. Can you tell?

unfortunately, mine is like the amazon. far too many trees and areas of great danger!

In fact new status update.

Thandeka is off to prune her Bonsai tree.

What you mean yours isn't!?

Mine has carefully pruned bonsai trees and water sprinklers and everything. I thought that was normal?

pmsl, why cant all vagina's be like that?!

Oooh and mini airhostesses in white gloves to direct the doctors where exactly to go and to point out the emergency exits

pmsl and fireworks for the end?

Thandeka says Lissilou should add sparkles and feathers- maybe a glitter ball to add to the medical fanjo disco experience!

thandeka congrats!

tigress <hairstroke>

todays update:

lissie is not looking forward to yet another doctor peering up her fanjo tomorrow, should put a revolving door in. still, at least its an incentive to prune my ladygarden

Tigress has period pains and is popping Feminax like there is no tomorrow

Oooh the one for today would be:

Thandeka just wee-d on a stick and there was a flipping faint but obvious line! Gulp!

instead it actually reads

Thandeka is ambiguous.

Today's facebook's statuses from Thandeka should really read:

Thandeka is addicted to pissing on sticks.

Thandeka is going cross eyed from trying to work out if the faint line is actually a line.

Thandeka is paranoid if the line is a line then it could be residual HCG from recent miscarriage or if it is new HCG she intends to crap herself about having another MMC for the next nine months.

Thandeka is due to get AF tommorrow and will be pissing on sticks until further notice.

Thandeka does not want to bleed tommorrow.

Thandeka is not going to tell anyone except DH and BM if she is pregnant again this time. So she won't announce it on facebook. But then again she didn't FB people last time either so this is a silly status update.

There think that just about covers the facebook status updates I wish I could write!

Currently says something dull like Thandeka has been on the sofa all day watching Shameless and knitting!

Tigeress PMSL i think you are right and that ladies that have ben ttc forever and have been through mcs and know like EVERYTHING about their cycles should give the sex talks. I know damn well that my DD will learn lots more from me then she ever will at school. I just prey she doesnt have my problems.

Face book updates continued.

Ray is ............. avoiding facebook like the plague as EVERYONE is announcing pregnancies and putting scan pics on their profile pics and she cant understand how they got to 12 weks and she didnt AGAIN. Life is a miserable unfair fucking wanker.

Ray is ........... feeling very resentful at the moment. Can you tell????????????

Ray is ................ feeling verymuch like she wants to give up and just accept she wont have anymore babies.

I think we should post these things i would love to see the reaction that could be quite amusing to watch everyone sqiurm.

Back to the Facebook status'!

Tigress ...knows more about the female monthly cycle than a PE teacher doing a talk to a group of 12 year old school girls!

pmsl tigress, bargain

Fabulous, ahll inform my BUPA consultant that I now have 2 ladies standing by for blood tests next time. He will charge me £50 for confirming it of course!

lissielou and Tigress you are both mad! But if you're offering you have have my internals too and I'll have your blood tests!

pmsl

"is having bloods taken on behalf of tigresswoods, and would like to thank her for having the probe"

"Tigresswoods is having an internal on behalf of a lady she met on the internet, she has swapped it for her next blood test."

deal! i dont mind the bloods too much, its the scans i hate.

Lissielou, I can sympothise although give me all the internals you like, its the blood tests I cannot stand. I will swap you one internal for one blood test, wadda you say?

is loving the clomid symptoms (just means it working), but dreading having the billionth vaginal scanner shoved up her fanjo on weds.

ray: x

BlondieMix I agree.

Add

.......is taking a deep breath and posting "congratulations" on friends walls who announce they are pregnant on Facebook but couldn't tell me to my face as I've had a miscarriage.

....... is on the 2WW.

....... is sick of BD'ing unenthusiastically cos she thinks she might be ovulating.

...... wants to know where her exciting (pre TTC) sex life went!

...doesn't care for your 50 new pictures of a new born and is on CD32 of a usually 30-33 day cycle and is nervous

is... taking a deep breath and posting "oh how cute" comments on other people's baby pics. And is pretending not to be desperately wishing for it to be her turn!

is... looking at your profile and the pictures of your new born and is frankly not bovvered. So there.

Aunt Flo is here........... after 4 months of waiting.... HURRAY !!

Oh Ray I am so sorry to hear this news.

oh shit Ray just saw this that is gutting. Life can be so unfair

... wants to be a smug married with an ultrasound photo on her profile.

"...spent a lot of time BDing on holiday and THINKS she got her time right but won't know for a few weeks"

Also am sick of the pictures of newborns (feel very cruel) if/when it ever happens to me will I really want everyone I know to see me half dressed, looking very tired and with a frowning bundle of stretchy skin in my arms. I think not although I suspect I might change my mind.

PLEASE LET THIS BE MY MONTH!!!!

(((Ray))) xx

..........has just found out her baby died at 8 weeks and needs it removed. Dont give me sympathy it doesnt help, i just want my baby back.

....is maternal, desperately wishes she was pregnant and really doesn't care about her career whatever her friends may think!

I just want to put on my facebook status...... "is desperately waiting for Aunt Flo, so I can start TTC again..... 4 months and very impatient....."

Ha ha at squelching with pre-seed. Know that feeling.

...does not want your sympathy, wants a baby

'Breathe in, breathe out' I'm calm.

Well I would like to write:

'First~Name Surname' is a two timing, shitty arsed, lying, sneaky, snake in the grass wanker and ought to be humiliated and drowned. Yes! I'm bitter!

Lol SkaterGrrrl - What about when someone has a baby and then they change their FB page to just a photo of the baby; they're not even in it?

seconded SkaterGrrrl!

Grrr indeed! Part of me feels a bit mean for feeling so but it's good to know I'm not the only one feeling so annoyed about FB posts!!!

(I'm) busy studying for my green roof exam - because wishing for a magical pregnancy just isn't doing the trick...



What I'd really like to say is:

DH, BONK ME NOW!!!

I agree, SkaterGrrrrl

One of my DP's mates even made a whole new FB page for his new baby! The Dads can be just as bad as the Mums.

Man it pisses me off when, the minute someone has a baby, they change their profile picture to one of them with the baby.

As you were.

(((lissie)))

and dh would like to announce the safe arrival of their new baby, it was all worth it in the end

...is eating chocolate for breakfast. There are two people in the world who will know what this means when I post it
...is going to be an auntie (DSis is ftc too )

Yeah thought I was okay post MC then saw friends update "XXX doesn't think her skin can stretch anymore" she is only 16 weeks- she was 5 ahead of me and we were going through this together. Have now hidden her from my news feed as can't cope with reading updates like that for next 5months.

...has just seen her little wriggly bean and is very excited!!

(Should have had my 12 week scan this week )

I too am sick of seeing friends' status updates about being pregnant and about their amazing babies! hmph...

would like an ovary transplant. Anyone got any for sale?

xx

At the minute it would be....
.....has just had a missed miscarriage and is devastated and is so angry at the hospital for phoning her and asking why she missed her first midwife appointment today. GRRRR.

Oooh there are so many more I have wanted to put....

... thinks she just ovulated out of her nose.

...is has enough EWCM to bake a cake.

....is so bored of sex

....is hanging upside down so sperm have maximum chance of reaching destination.

...is squelching with pre-seed

...is 5DPO

....hates the 2WW

and so on....

Beanieb I lov eyours and will also be able to one day write exactly the same thing.

So glad I am not alone in this!

I have a lot of old school friends on mine who although are all grown up noe thier status seems to always be updated with X was fucking wasted last night or something alon thoses lines.

So i would like to put mine as...

Titsalina wonders why all her fb friends havent grown up yet???????

has a bun in the oven

hasnt had a period since having a mmc in sept 08...im fed up of hearing everyone else on here is pregnant just f**k off!

is wishing all you smug people with children would stop posting about them...i dont care!

can you tell im because i really really want a baby!

'is starting on Clomid tomorrow' but no way could I write that as everyone would then know the difficulties I have been having!

What I really want to write one day (And will) is "is having a baby after months of tests and trying, an HSG, clomid and uninspiring sex life and she doesn't care who knows it!'

has EWCM for the first time since m/c and is very excited!

Lisad is sick of being ask, how are you? with that stupid look in your eyes, like im going to fall part!

is thinking how tacky it is to announce you are pregnant on facebook...

is fed up with everyone going on about their "bumps" and wishes that they would realise it really is not that easy for the rest of us...

is pregnant!

has three pregnant friends on here and would rather NOT hear about their progress

seems to ovulate freakishly late into her cycle

is fed up with seeing babies everywhere