EI Love the new thread title, let's hope it's new thread, new baby for you

Well girls, not sure how to put this and have tried typing this a few times over the last few days, I feel I have no choice but to step away from MN. The BIL/SIL situation has gone t*ts up and it makes me really uncomfortable to think that she may still be stalking reading my posts . I don't want to write anything personal on here and that's what the whole thing is about. I can't imagine for one minute my name changing worked. It is killing me to say goodbye as the support I have received on here for well over 12months has been amazing and I feel like I'm cutting off my limbs writing this I will still lurk as there is no way I cannot follow you all, I will keep in touch via FB and text for those of you I have numbers for. Thank you all from the bottom of my heart for the invaluable support, mentoring, counselling and fun I've had on this thread.
Love to each and everyone of you
Mollie

ei here's to this cycle being the one hun x

fruity all quiet at the moment, regular, painless bh but nothing else. Fingers crossed I wake tonight in the throws?!

here is the nice new thread

bucky come and join in here too its getting a tad lonely on the bench all alone (jaamy is such a socialite she hardly has a spare sec to join me)

xx ei xx

And Mibbes , aha, this is where you are hiding out! . We'll always find you in the end hee hee...Come and say hello to us [Now I'm poaching people from other threads, how sad is that?!].

Wow you're all still here too . Maybe you remember me? I know Ei does LOL..

I will have a quick read up to see what's going on over here, but hope you are all doing ok. Just sticking my head in!

Sparkly PMSL at the shaving incident

Bella hope you're doing ok? What's going on now?

Mibbes your post to bella put a tear in my eye! I can't wait for my next pregnancy so I can have that excitement all over again! (when I'll be pushing out my little girl )

Hey scully How's that delicious little Connor doing?

ei aaaghh, another cycle but PMA is a wonderful thing if you can manage it

I'm feeling a little better now, thank you for your concerns


only 4 more posts left of this thread...........

hi ladies
well it is CD2 here for me ahh well another cycle down... still PMAPMAPMA!!
bella looks positive it wont be long now
bhudda hope you are well
sparkly sorry to hear you had another scare!! glad all is well though
scully ahh well ikea will still be there next time you get the urge
hope everyone else is ok
has your hangover calmed down yet fruity
xx ei xx

sparkly lol at your shaving incident! I did something similar for my smear at 28 wks, doc must have noticed lol

Have just walked into town because there is a festival on. Could do with a long nap after getting up and silly o'clock this morning to go to hospital. Haven't had anymore bleeding and whilst injection was painful, I'm glad I had it.
Very funny - after I realised I'd had a bit of bleeding last night and spoke to MW she asked if I could have cut myself shaving/have piles/picked a spot etc. No.
This am I thought 'I could end up having an interal so I'd better sort out the old bikini line - I only frigging cut myself and there was fresh blood all over the shower . Thank god for no internal. I didn't fancy discussing that infront of my mother (who very kindly came with me).
Bella Hope things kick off soon.
Fruity How's the hangover?
Mibbes I quite fancy a labour like that. Maybe I'll put it on my birth plan. Gorgeous pics of E on FB. He's divine.
Ei How are things chick?

Well my best friend has been in delivery suite since before 8 (she was 4cm dilated then) and STILL no news. Poor girl. Hope she's ok.

All stopped again!!! I could scream!

No posh shops in Sutton lol! Good thing really as I was so rude to all the shop assistants, kept snapping when they asked if I needed help I had to go in though as it's DH and I's 1st wedding anniversary on Mon! Had to get him something.

Fruity hope your feeling more perky?!

No major progress here, was achey and crampy all the way around town but never got too much to handle.....can't believe I'm wishing for more pain!lol

I've no idea buddha, I can't seem to say no

are there any posh shops in Sutton?

Bella Make sure your waters break in a nice posh shop you might get something nice! (Do they still that I know M&S used too ) You are a mad woman though
Fruity What are you like drunken bum!

Thanks buddha, I've forced myself to waddle in to town!

oooooooooooooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhh, Bella!!!!!!!!!!

I obviously haven't caught up with you all yet.
Was out again last night at the Abbeyfest, drunk waaaaaayyy too much, been throwing up all night and this morning that'll teach me - got a flat tummy now though! I'm sure when I brave food it'll come bouncing back.

keep us updated missus, I'll pop in throughout the day tp see how things are going - am so excited for you !!

Aaw thanks Mibbes I think it's posting on here that's keeping me sane x

Bella How exciting, hope you can keep us updated right to the last second Good luck and really hope things progress for you today, wishing you a short and pain free labour

Oh I meant to say actually, my NCT friend who was due twins went to hospital with back pain and they kept her in overnight to monitor her. She said that all night she had back pain but no contractions. When they checked her in the morning she was 10cm and they told her to start pushing !! Some ladies apparently don't get contractions as such ! Mind you she was 7 weeks early. It may be that you are progressing well without realising - I really hope so. How exciting the next thread baby is on the way !!! This is the start of your birth story Bella, it is so lovely sharing it with you xx

Bella LOL at realisation that you have lost your plug !! It isn't pretty but it is only going to get worse - sorry ! Sounds like things are advancing well albeit a bit start/stop which is frustrating. You may well be one of the lucky ones that dilate quite far without realising you are in proper labour. I bet once you start getting painful contractions you'll deliver in no time atall like scully. You are doing well keeping calm missus, keep doing what you are doing and brace yourself as you may be meeting your baby within hours . On the other hand the wee blighter may still take a day or 2 but PMA my dear

Yuk! Definatly lost mucus plug now! Blood tinged too, however back pain has passed and contractions stopped! OMG this is frustrating...what now?

ei hiya! My sis has an imcompetent GP, makes me so angry!

Scully Wow! 4 hours! Amazing, I've accepted I'm going to have a long drawn out labour that. Way I'll be pleasantly suprised if it's quick! Lol

Help ladies!? I have been waking up all night with very strong back pain, had it since 6pm yesterday and I'm propped on sofa now whinging, I have had lots of irregular and painless contractions and (warning in advance)and have had a blood tinged slimy mucus all night, that started more jelly like yesterday early afternoon...what is happening with me? Am I going in to labour, or what? If I am why has it not got worse just stayed the same, fairly bearable? Any advivice would be very welcome, I've not read up enough on this obviously x xx

Great news Bella, hopefully things are underway for you
I went from 2-3cm to ds being born in 4hrs, with dd2 it took 7hrs, hopefully won't be long and drawn out for you.
Never got to Ikea Ei. By the time I took dd1 to gymnastics, did some grocery shopping, picked dd1 up, and went to an art show at her school (major fundraiser for the year), I'm now rather tired...... the dd's are outside playing and ds is sleeping on dh's lap, so I can't be bothered loading everyone up into the car and going anywhere
Hope you're all well and have a great weekend

bella im here i have been having a weightloss/incompetent GP discussion in AIBUglad things are starting with you xx
xx ei xx

mibbes I'm having achey back/front bh, been here before though and it came to nothing so not going to get too bothered by it until I'm screaming with pain! Lol

Mw just called and asked me to have my bp checked again on mon! They all said it was normal in my apt, then she ran after me in to the car park and asked me to have blood taken, now she calls and says they want to monitor me again!? What is going on! Way to make a girl panic eh!? Been quiet in here today, where are you all? X

Bella yeay ! Excellent news that things have started already I only ever got to 1-2 cm dilated so you have beaten me already . I really hope that things start to happen properly soon. Have you been bouncing on a gym ball and walking loads ?

Just got babck from the consultant and he did the sweep! Said I was more than 2cm dilated and he could feel the baby's head really well; could even break the membranes if needed. I bled lots (yuk) and he said he would be very suprised if I did not go in to labour this weekend!!! Please, please, please be true! I now feel a bit achey and violated but chuffed at his reaction!

Bella, so true, I do feel like I belong in the milking shed most of the time, but it beats sore nips that's for sure
Typical, I start typing and small boy starts whinging. He's feeling unloved today and is in need of a lot of cuddles, apparently.....
I have half an hour until dd2, ds and I need to pick dd1 from school, wonder if we'll be on time? Back later.....

Sorry guys, I've been so crap at keeping up lately but check this out
No more sterilising for me, ever again
I also started a thread about it here

I'll catch up with you lot in a bit.....

Not much to report here. NCT coffee morning this am which is always lovely followed by DD claiming to have a bad tummy and insisting on having an afternoon nap (she never does this). What a peaceful 2.5 hours. I had a lovely nap myself and could get used to it very quickly .
Off to make some dinner now but can't see DD going to bed at normal time.
Bella Good luck with the sweep tomorrow. My best friend is a week overdue now and had a sweep this pm. She's 2-3cm dilated so hopefully that'll be enough to get labour going.
Mibbes L doesn't talk about having a little brother much. I suppose that's better than her asking every few mins when he will be coming . We're trying to involve her as much as poss and I'm sure she'll love her role when he arrives.

Just realised - EDD is 3 months today. That seems too close.

mibbes the bh I was getting lask week have pretty much stopped!! I still get them but like they were early in the pg; painless tightenings at the front only.

I have a small confession though I made DH have a feel around to see if I have dilated at all and from what he explained it does sound like there have been some significant changes!? Would never tell the mw about this, bet she'd slap my wrist!? I'm having the sweep done tomorrow, toyed with putting it off as Sparkly suggested but I'm just dieing to hear if I have dilated at all.

Congrats on reaching your due date in a sane frame of mind Bella - have all the BH stopped or are you just soldiering on regardless ?

Lola I cannot believe you only have 4 weeks to go, it seriously seems like no time since you got BFP - this year has flown by for me so far - be warned first time mums, when people say that it goes quickly and that they are not tiny for long IT IS SO TRUE !!

Sparkly glad you had a good day at the safari park. Is L excited about her little brother ?

Ei what news from you ? Any peeing on sticks yet ?...

ei I shall try and get a shock somehow hmmm how can I do that...
Thank you for all the advice ladies, and Lola I shall be sure to remind you of that sane comment in 4 weeks time. Lol I'm sure you will approach the 40 week mark with more grace than I have

I took the asvice so many of you gave and spent today with DH in kingston, shopping and watched a film; the Hangover..very funny! Well worth a watch! [Grin]

Well the Safari Park was wet but it meant that there weren't many people there (so no traffic jam whilst looking at animals). They didn't seem bothered by the rain and L got to feed lots of them. She'll soon be in bed .
Ei How are things?
Lola Did you make the show? Did you have lots of cuddles with the newborn?
Bella You've made it!! And, you've done 40 weeks already. It'll be another two weeks MAX before you get to meet your little girl.
Scully Did the rest of the day go ok? I think we'll have a fresh pasta and sauce dinner tonight. I can't be bothered cooking and I haven't even got a newborn.

morning ladies
bella hope you are ok and i suggest planning something that you will definitely NOT be able to do with a newborn in tow that you know you will enjoy for within the next few days as it will tempt the fates and voila! baby born either that or watch a VERY SCARY film and have some pineapple, whilst twiddling your nips and then go to bed and have some nookie and if that doesnt help god knows i did try everything myself and nowt worked except the BIG SHOCK we almost had a head on car crash with some idiot who was speeding away in a race with another idiot...my waters broke the next day (wouldnt say do that but i reckon a shock helps)
hope all is well
sparkly have a great time at the safari
xx ei xx

Bella I feel your pain But I still think having reached your due date is something to be celebrated (remind me of that in 4 weeks please...) so I have updated the list for you! I can imagine the scowling though I went to see my friend who had her baby Ella (possibly Ella Kate - GREAT name!! ) yesterday and I still find it bizarre to think that could will be me soon... on one hand she's so tiny and beautiful, but on the other when I think where she came from and how she got out, she's ENORMOUS! (And she's really not, 7lb 6oz)

Scully welcome Connor Luke! Fab. Love the sound of the no cooking thing, my mum cooked 'too much' the other night (she cooked double ) so we had the rest - it was yum, and as DH pointed out it meant we ate before midnight which we probably would have done if I was cooking... I made my own body weight in chilli yday for the freezer (and that's really saying something atm) but now my hands smell of roasted veggies... yuk. No more cooking today though, meant to be going here but as Sparkly said the weather forecase for later is dreadful so we'll see...

Hope the animals don't mind the rain and pose for pics regardless Sparkly! Let us know how it goes.

<<waves>> to everyone else xx

Jaamy TTC#3 (MC Mar 08 and Sept 08)
HappyAndEiKnowIt cycle 22 (CP/MC april, june08 & april 09)

Infanticipating
BellaHarry 40 weeks pg EDD 29th July TODAY!!
Lola 36 weeks pg EDD 26th August
Piper 26 weeks pg TWINS!! EDD 16 - 23 October
Sparkly 26 weeks pg EDD 30th October
Molliemooma 20 weeks pg (BFP 6th Apr) EDD 16 December

Graduates
Emmsy GIRL! Amy Louise born 7th October 08 5lbs 12oz
CriCri GIRL! Elise Vivienne at 0630am 4th November 08, 7lbs 15oz
Mibbes BOY! Evan, born 3rd December 08, 6lbs 5oz
Fruity BOY! Jack, born 18th March 09, 8lbs 5oz
Teeheelaydee BOY! Noah Robert, born 13th April 09, 6lbs 12oz
Scully BOY! Conor Luke, Born 11th July 09, 7lb 13oz
HeyThereGeorgieGirl GIRL! Flora Beatrice, Born 18th July 09, 9.24am, 8lbs 7oz

Hi all! Due date reached still here, fat and uncomfortable and very everytime i see some poor parent with a pram! I think I may even scowl at them

Scully lol do you do the job in the milking shed? I have a hillarous visual

Sparkly enjoy the Safari park; I think I went there a few times when I lived in Oxford area.

We have a 2nd name - Connor Luke
Bella, I'm only finding expressing easier this time as I've hired a Medela double breast pump, which takes about 20min to do both sides at the same time, I do that 4 times a day and I'm keeping up with him so far. I find it a lot easier on my nips, doesn't hurt them at all, whereas feeding for the first 6wks..........
First day with dh back at work going well so far. ds has been sleeping for the last 2hrs, so I've been online sorting through the govt stuff he needs to be added to, now we have a name for him
Have to go out again in 1.5hrs to pick up dd's, so enjoying my peace whilst I can.
How was the safari park Sparkly?
I could probably cook tonight, but am cheating and have one of those fresh tortellini packs with sauce out of the freezer. Last night we had a casserole that a friend made and dropped over, delicious. Have another friend dropping in tomorrow for a visit and she had said she would bring a meal with her, hoping she does, I'm quite enjoying this no cooking malarky for as long as possible

Evening all,
Quick one from me as I'm off out for a meal with the NCT girls. Am really looking forward to seeing everyone and watching them get drunk...I might even treat myself to an extra SMALL glass of vino.
Bella Not long now. Any progress today?
Scully Good luck - it's always scary going solo. Did you decide on a second name?
Lola I used CocaButter (Palmers) when pregnant with DD. I got stretch marks on my sides but not on tummy. Have started using BioOil today but I think if you're meant to get them then there's nothing you can do about it. Lack of itching sounds like a good sign.
Bhudda Think I'll rent film tomorrow eve so will let you know what I think.
Ei Any news?

Bet Georgie is relieved to be in her own place but bloody hell - that must have been tough. Hope you're resting now lady. Look forward to seeing some more pics of Flora.

We're off to West Midlands Safari Park tomorrow. Weather forecast is very poor so we'll be packing waterproofs and prob not spotting any animals whilst they shelter.

Scully how do you find expressing then; i it a lot less painful than bf on the old nips? I remember my sis struggles terribly with that side of things and would express throughout the day and often the next to get enough for a night out! Sounds like you've got it down; any tips?

Lola don't you just love shopping, I think I actually prefer it for baby than me! Not sure how long that will last?? Perhaps only until I stop being soooo enormous. As for your previous question; I do find that the breathing exercises help a lot with the 'bh' when they get more painful, and my relaxation CD too. Can't believe how close it's getting for you now, I really hope you don't go too overdue, I'm soooo fed up
oh and as for the stretch marks I am flumoxed (don't think it's spelt like that) by them as I am covered from hips down from growth spurts as a child/teen last lot I got I was 22, but for some reason (Bella touches wood) i have none on my Belly??? Don't understand it really, maybe all the moisturising worked

Buddha who's in that?

Ei good luck hun, I have all fingers, toes and limbs crossed for you (just thought, I can double that if I have a quiet word with lo too!)

My friend had a little boy last night; 'Arthur', I've been meeting with her every week since we finished work and can't believe she's actually done it, whilst I had all of these hints, engaged head etc she had nothing and then bang; 3 days late she has her little boy! Wow, it really can be that quick when it starts off. I'm really glad she didn't go too overdue as she was told all the way through the pg that baby was BIG and as she used a donor she was a little concerned that she couldn't predict how big it could be! Turns out he was only 8lb 3..not bad at all, I weighed more than that!

Any way, i thought I'd be dead jealous as was having a really depressing day yesterday but it actually lifted my mood! Well done her I say!

Have a lovely day ladies, hope the sun shines on you! xxx

Can't believe Georgie moved house with a 4day old, couldn't think of anything worse At least it's done now, but I know I would have unpacked boxes for years afterwards, if we had done that.
Any day for you Bella, I was uncomfortable with cramping etc for about a week before ds arrived, and had the same with dd2 as well.
Hope you're at home resting and relaxing.
Lola, can't believe you only have a month to go, probably doesn't feel like it but seems to have gone by quickly. I hadn't even realised that I was using ds1, but no, barring a miracle there will be no more children in this house We are done, and very happy with what we have
ds managed to sleep from 8pm to 2am again last night, not sure what we are doing, but it's working well for him and us He was awake a lot of yesterday so possibly that was why. I got him back down by 3am, he woke at 5.30am and has been awake since (it's now 9.30am), having had 150ml of milk. I'm still expressing, tried bf him again yesterday and I just don't have the motivation this time to persevere with it. Strange, as I bf dd2 for 12mths, but I think his jaundice and my bleeding nips has messed me up this time. I can express more than he needs at the moment, and want to do that until he's 8wks if possible, to get him through the worst of winter and flu season here and to when he has his first immunisations. But I think I'm really enjoying the fact that bottle feeding is quicker than sitting on the sofa for hrs feeding him myself, plus I get help from dh and dd1, which I've found invaluable, with 2 other children to look after.
Fingers crossed Ei, I think you're just waiting until everyone else has had their bubbas and then we can all focus on you and your pregnancy, without any other distractions
Suppose I should get out of my pj's now, dh's last day at home before going back to work tomorrow, so I think we're going to a local shopping centre for a look around, and hopefully deciding on a 2nd name today so I can submit all the forms I need to.

Buddha you’re right, I do have a birth plan all typed up now – I’ve just cut and pasted Fruity’s Thank you for that Fruity, I really appreciate it. Am going to print it out and use it as a starting point in talking to my doula when I see her again next Monday. Am definitely leaving that final line in too!

Ei I’d make a pretty funny looking cheer leader atm, but for you my love I cast all dignity aside! Really hope it works xx

Buddha glad you spent some time watching films, am sure it will have done you good to have a rest, not sure about all the crying though! I watched Dream Girls yesterday afternoon. Thought it was crap to be honest, but then I wasn’t really concentrating. Anyone else seen it?

I went to the baby shop and almost managed not to buy anything for myself… will see if I can find you a pic… No. I can’t. It was an Emile et Rose comforter thingie like this. Only nicer. Naffing white company, have just seen they’ve reduced the cot mobile I bought by 50% How rude. If any of you preggy ladies fancy it I’d say it’s a bloomin bargain now! Anyway, I got a couple of lovely bits for my friend, who I heard this afternoon has called her baby Ella Such a lovely name Would have been tempted by it myself, but not that keen on Ellie - too popular and I suspect an inevitable “abbreviation”. Can’t wait to see them both!

Bella & Sparkly am ok ta, ability to sleep severely diminished but surviving ok as not doing much while I’m awake! Have bought ingredients for a mammoth cook off tomorrow though! Itchy bump much better as long as I only wear natural fibres. Am keeping on with the Burt’s Bees baby wash and the olive oil as scared of it coming back if I go back to ‘grown up’ products. Do you reckon stretch marks are more likely with olive oil than bio oil, or that whatever you use if you’re going to get them you’ll get them, and there’s pretty much naff all you can do about it?!?

Bella hope you’re not too uncomfortable, can’t imagine you’re getting much sleep yourself atm?

Night lovely ladies

PS heard from Georgie yday, move went ok I think, she said never again will she move house with a 4 day old baby! Nutcase. They won’t have internet til next week, but she asked me to send you all her love in the mean time

EI Sounds hopeful My pom pom dance is working then?
Bella Thanks for the chocolate muffin
Sparkly I did enjoy my day off thanks, pottered did bits of housework but watched two films, such a lazy mare
Fruity I'm not sure I know half of the stuff on your birth plan, <<sigh>> I have so much to learn
Lola I bet you will have one all typed out by now and ready to go!

Has anyone seen seven pounds? I watched it today and sobbed my heart out, it was so good but oh so sad, looked very attractive afterwards Still cooked DH his favourite tea, so at least I did something productive today

hi ladies
bella not long now!! 2 days til your due date?? either way you look at it you have at the most 2 weeks until you get to meet you little lady
hello to everyone
im CD31 and AF was due today (i think) but no sign yet so well see
xx ei xx

Effing blackberry!!! Deleted my message again! Offered you all a muffin, asked after Lola's health and ability to sleep and updated all on my no show baby! X

Busy few days here with going to Swindon (the girls were all looking fab and I really enjoyed myself) and then a birthday party on Sunday. I'm finding lots of things to do around the house rather than sitting down and relaxing. Might as well enjoy being able to move before I get any bigger.
Teehee I hope you're having a fantastic time if you're lurking and that little N is being as well behaved as he was on Saturday. L is still going on about him .
Ei How are you hun? Any news from you? Hope your body doesn't give you the run around this month.
Mibbes How is the exercising going?
Fruity Have you recovered from the weekend yet? Am glad to see you warming up for Milan!!
Scully Has C kept up his amazing sleeping pattern? What ever you're doing I want to know...I'm dreading being sleep deprived.
Lola How is itchy tummy? Still leaving you alone, I hope. I wrote a birth plan when pregnant with L but it was such a waste of time in the end because I was induced. I'm not going to bother this time. If I want anything then I'll verbally make it known. They didn't even bother to read my hospital notes - numpties!! (Is that even a word?) Did you go to sale and find any bargins? Eat as much cake as you can - I bet you'll still look fantastic.
Bhudda Have you enjoyed your day off today?
Bella Is labour anxiety keeping you awake? It got me for a few weeks for DD arrived.

DD just gone to bed so I'm parking myself on sofa for the night. My best friend was due to have a little girl on Friday but there's still no sign of her. I keep jumping everytime my phone goes. It's so exciting.

That last paragraph isn't in my birth plan but it is optional

ooh Lola I think you asked me ages ago for a birth plan! Copy and paste this....

Birth Plan

I am keeping an open mind about my labour and birth and may change my mind. However, I would prefer it if:
Birth companions: Partner, and Doula. Also I’d like my Mum to be allowed in.

Induction: I do not want to be induced unless absolutely necessary. I want to be informed as to any steps taken to induce or augment labour. This includes artificially rupturing the membranes or sweeps.

Pain relief: I am incredibly keen to be in water for as long as possible so I will stay at home for as long as I can. I’m very happy to have gas and air. No epidural. I might bring a tens machine with me. I am hoping to be able to get through labour/birth with breathing techniques. However, I’m not ruling out Pethidine but would rather not have it. I would much rather have Meptid if anything.
Monitoring: As little as possible as I will be moving around a lot
I’d prefer not to have continuous monitoring unless medically necessary. I will happily be checked with a sonicaid at regular intervals. If continuous monitoring is necessary I would like the option of telemetry monitoring if possible

Interventions: As little as possible.
C-section: To be avoided. However, if I really need a c-section, and it’s not a dire emergency then I would like a “natural” c-section:

Lower the screen/sheet between me and my tummy so I can see baby’s head coming out, then leave the body in for longer than normal so that chest gets squeezed (like in a vaginal birth) to expel fluid from the lungs. Then I’d like the baby to be put on my chest. Also please leave the umbilical cord attached for several minutes.

Delivery positions: Any way but on my back. I want to be free to move around as much as possible.

Touching baby: I’d like to be able to feel my baby’s head as he crowns and would like him to be placed straight onto my chest.
I’d prefer all exams and Apgar scoring to be done whilst baby is on my chest. I’d like skin-to-skin at all times unless medically necessary

If baby needs to be taken away then I would like partner to stay with him and maintain skin-to-skin contact with him as much as possible.

Cutting the cord: Please allow the cord to stop pulsating before cutting and allow partner to cut the cord

Third stage: I’m quite happy to have the injection to expel the placenta and happy for the vitamin K injection to be administered.

Feeding: I will be breast-feeding exclusively. Please could you check the baby for tongue-tie? I would not want baby to be given a dummy or bottle without my permission.

Can I please have a virtual Choccy muffin please? Still got about 3/4 stone to lose so can't have a real one

Choccie muffins choccie muffins choccie muffins! Me me me!! I know I said I was going to cut down on cake, but muffins and biscuits are in their own separate categories... aren't they?!?

Bella here's hoping that either you get some decent rest at some point today, or that if you don't it's because LO stops teasing you and decides to put in an appearance! Are you finding any of the breathing tips helpful during BH/contractions? Maybe worth having a go with a tens machine (if you have one) if they're really bad?

Mibbes sorry for the mammoth post! You're right, I seem to bottle it all up them vomit it all out at once! (Charmingly put don't you think?! ) I'll try for the 'little and often' approach, but I don't hold out much hope! Sorry! Am VERY impressed by the half a stone lighter than pre-preg thing btw, even if you do have a wobbly tummy!

What shall I do now? Am shattered today as had to get up (relatively) early... The weather here is attrocious. I might go and check out the sale in a posh baby shop near us which I've never been to before to see if I can find a little something for my friend who had her baby on friday, and then go on to the supermarket to start the freezer cooking frenzy that I've promised myself I'll do before LO arrives... Do any of you have a decent recipe for broccoli and stilton soup?

While I remember, if any of the mummies or mummies-to-be have a birth plan I could have a look at I'd be really grateful. Want to do one but not sure where to start...

Lots of love to all xx

Mibbes aaw that sounds cute I've got all sorts of hints that baby is on the way but they've been happening for a week now so don't really thinks it means much at all given up really just keep obsesively baking....want some chockie muffins? x

Oh no poor you Bella , if it is any consolation I was up at 6am, woken by the babbling from the nursery da da da da ! Get used to the lack of sleep Any progress ...?

Aaagh! Woke up at 4:30am and can't get back to sleep! Been watching tv since 5:30 now

OOh Bella surely it can't be much longer ?..

You lucky ladies meeting up - am very

scully what a wee star DS is sleeping for so long so soon ! It took DS ages to get to that stage ! Oh and I assume it was DS who woke covered in wee and not you

Buddha good on you taking time to relax, enjoy it while you can xx

and the award for longest post goes to Lola !! flipping blink woman - you certianly made up for your absence ! My exercise goal is to lose/tone up the belly area which still annoys me. I am almost half a stone lighter than pre-PG thanks to BFing and walking so quite happy with weight - I just cannot bear the jelly belly which is definitely worse after having a section - all of my c-section friends have the same dodgy belly problem , oh well that's the payback for a relatively easy birth . Oh and 1/5 means that the MW can only feel 1/5 of the head so 4/5 is engaged - I always found it confusing that they'd say 1/5 engaged but actually meant 4/5 was engaged...

Should prob mention my progress quick; last 3 days have had strong, regular and painful contractions and back pain for a good 4 hours each day, well in the middle of a bout at the moment, clamy palms and all.

Hi girls! Just checking in quickly from time to time, seem to be so distracted by the time I've read everyone's posts I've forgotten it all again; still I am reading, and careing x

Oh and Lola I think it's the laptop coz your emoticons look fine on the post

Fruity Love the drunken posts and spelling Not surprised your head hurt yesterday morning, but glad you are enjoying yourself. Did you sort out anything about the bridesmaids dresses?
Bella I've tried to find you on FB but can't, maybe one of the girls could send you as a friend suggestion to me please?
TeeHee Hope you are having a fab time on holiday, and that the rest of your journey went ok, I have to say I was so impressed at how laid back and relaxed a new mum you are, I only hope I can be like that too
EI I have dusted off my pom poms and I will be doing the honourary "Stay away AF" song and dance just for you this weekend
Mibbes Well done on the exercising, made me feel tired just reading about it
Scully Love the new pics on FB, happy belated wedding anniversary for yesterday, good news that C is sleeping so well, hope it lasts
Lola I'd love to know where you have put on nearly 3 stone!!! You must have been a size 0 before getting pg then you have a gorgeous neat little bump and look so well hun, it was lovely to meet up and put the world to rights.
Sparkly L was the most well behaved little girl I have ever had the pleasure of spending a day with, she was just so content and undemanding all day, you should be so proud of her

DH has gone to the cinema to watch Harry Potter so I'm off to put my feet up on the sofa and ignore the housework

How weird... are my emoticons showing up in odd places on top of words to everyone else, or is that just on my laptop...??

Hello lovely ladies! Sorry I haven't posted for so long, I seem to have had a very busy week last week, despite only working on friday. All good though, just very tired.

It was great to see Mollie, sparkly, L & Teehee & N yesterday We truly pushed the boundaries of how long it is possible to stay in a branch of Pizza Express without getting chucked out! L & N were both beautifully behaved, and I think Sparkly and I both now have car seat envy over Teehee's immaculate maxi cosi - not to mention holiday envy!!! The other ladies were all looking totally gorgeous, and were very kind about my big fat feet Really looking forward to the next meet up, just hope that if it's chez G in september I'm able to make it... Has any date been suggested yet? Today is officially one month til due date!! Am trying not to wish the time away, but am just so bloody uncomfortable Have been suffering really badly with a really itchy bump, only when it touches anything (clothes, towels, sheets etc) so I think it's a sensitivity thing rather than anything else. Kept me fully awake for 2 long nights... Ah well. Good practice I suppose, and was much better last night A friend of mine who lives just along the street had her baby on friday (!) Haven't heard a name yet, and can't wait to see them. It's taking all my self control not to go and stake out their house

I (foolishly?) weighed myself this morning. Had a few blissful moments when I somehow thought I'd "only" put on about 2 stone, then realised I'd lost the ability to count to 2 and it's actually a couple of pounds off 3 stone... Oh well. Not much I can do about it now. Though I will try to cut down on the cake from here on in... Would like to not put on more than another 4lbs as that'll take me to the next stone bracket. Should be doable? I think the average at this stage is 1lb per week? Seeing Teehee looking so trim with a 14 week old and hearing about Mibbes' good habits has given me a bit of extra incentive!

Scully glad to hear DS is behaving himself Love the fact that you're already referring to him as DS1, how many more DS's are you intending to have?!?!

Fruity I feel your pain! Really glad you're managing to get out and have some fun. Won't be long now til that's Italian fun either! () What a wonderful loaction for a hen do! Don't forget your credit card What's DP doing for his stag? I noticed the perfect spelling of marlborough light too - you were obviously concentrating hard!

Bella hope the time isn't dragging for you too much. Nearly there chick! So how does the x/5 engaged thing work then? Is 1/5 better than 3/5? I would have guessed to be the other way round... Just think, by this time next week you could have your LO

Sparkly, Mollie & Teehee it was so lovely to see you all yesterday. I think that's probably the most fun any of us will ever have in Swindon! (what a hole! ) Hope you have a lovely holiday Teehee, am very In fact I told DH and he was very too!

Georgie you all moved in now? Hope it wasn't too stressful for you, and that you haven't massively over done it (but I bet you have! ) Hope you're able to all have a quiet weekend together to start to recover

Ei fingers crossed TEW stays away and doen't mess you about this month as she has been doing You're right though, PMA is definitely the best thing you can do! Did you have a lovely holiday? Am I right in thinking it was you going to the air show? Hope it was fab Don't think it's possible to strike out words in thread titles, any other suggestions for the next one? It seems the crown is passing from Emmsy to you!!

Cricri A month in France!! Nuff said! So sorry to hear what your friend is going through. It must have been incredibly difficult to email her. Have you found any helpul info on mn for her? Glad it sounds like she's getting a good level of care.

Mibbes am seriously impressed by the circuit training! I think it would probably kill me atm!! What are your goals? Is it purely a toning thing or are you hoping to lose weight as well? Hope the soreness has now gone! Am hoping that LO will appear soon enough & the weather will hold out for long enough round here to allow me a reasonable crack at a pram tan in september Well, a girl can dream can't she

Piper 2 girls!! {grin] How lovely!! Definite 'explosion-in-a-barbie-factory' look coming to your house then!! Can we have some more bump pics please?? (she asked cheekily, not having posted any of her own )

Right. It's 12pm. Really think it's time to get dressed... Hope everyone's having a relaxing sunday

Oh lordy, I think I've finally recovered after another late night.

Went to the AbbeyFest round the corner from me with a bottle of wine. Ended up going on to a friend's house and getting completely floorboarded on two bottles of vino (I'm sure you could tell). I'm quite enjoying my thirties at the moment! I think I'm catching up for lost time
I love the way I couldn't spell simple words but managed to get Marlborough light spelt perfectly!

As I'm finally feeling compus mentus, I'm taking the older bridesmaids to Peter Jones to try on some dresses this afternoon

scully What a good boy you have there! Lets hope he keeps it up! Jack has so far. He's still sleeping through 'til 6am

Did everyone enjoy the meet-up? Who hadn't met before?

Teehee Have a great time in the Cotswolds. Where are you going? Anywhere near Friday Island?

What a shame you can't get out for a meal Bella, but as Mibbes said, start walking, that's free
Our small boy slept from 8pm to 3.30am last night, including being moved from dh's lap to his basinette at 10pm, without waking up. 2nd time he's slept for a good length of time in the last week, and we can't even blame jaundice as it's all gone and he's eating like a master
Woke up frantic this morning, had wee'd everywhere and was starving
dh has taken the dd's bike riding, ds and I have peace for 10min, just enjoyed a sneaky piece of cake - have to eat it without the dd's seeing or they will want some as well
Love the new pics on FB Fruity, J is such a gorgeous boy

Fruity LMAO at your drunken posts GO GIRL !!

Bella pound the streets and walk that baby out !!

scully happy anniversary missus.

Where is Lola ? Hope you are ok love xx

Hi all. What was all that about fruity!! made me chuckle (and that takes some doing these days)

Just thought I'd let you know I'm still here. Unfortunatly DH and I are broke so although it would be lovely to enjoy meals out etc before baby, it can't be done.

I'm with you Sparkly, I also can't function in a mess, although I think you have it worse than me
We got chinese, but dh said thai next time, funnily enough I enjoyed mine more than he did. Still nice not to cook and a nice treat as we rarely have takeaway or eat out for that matter.
I can hear your head pounding from here Fruity, hope dp has taken the boys out for the morning to let mummy recover
Enjoy your meet up today, I'm very Although I'm also quite tired and as it's 9pm here I'm off to bed very soon.

ow, my head

Morning all,
Thought I'd pop in before getting the train.
Fruity Bet you're suffering this morning mwhahahahahaha!!
Scully Happy wedding anniversary. Hope you get your own way on the take away front .
Mibbes Is the exercising going to become a regular thing? The cleaning is my Mum's fault. I can't think in a mess - it really stresses me out.

Have a great weekend all...

Hilarious Fruity, you'll be giving your dp a run for his money soon, in the drinking stakes
I know you're over being pregnant Bella & really want to meet your dd, but as Ei said soon you'll be very busy & tired so try to put your feet up now, maybe a nice meal out with dh, somewhere you can't take a baby later
I managed some time outside yest with dd2 & then sat outside with ds1 when both dd's were outside playing. I want to increase our outside entertaining area & then it will be lovely to sit out there & watch them, when ds1 is still small.
Enjoy your meal out Ei, where are you going?
It's dh & my 11th wedding anniversary today, hard to believe that 11yrs ago we got married at Hammersmith Registry office, and 3 children later, we are living in Brisbane
We normally go out for dinner but really don't have the motivation to do that this year, so we're getting takeaway and will have a glass of wine at home. Apart from an occassional pizza, we don't eat much takeaway, so a nice treat. I'm thinking thai, dh will prob want chinese. Big decisions in our house this evening

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and a glass od gallo rossdsa?

I#m verddy verrrdy drunkkkk.....
Does anyone have a marlborough light?

piper congrats on 2 girlies, how exciting !

Buddha you really shouldn't let cricri's friend's story worry you. Your little one will be just fine - PMA my dear xx

Sparkly why do you do all this housework ? You have the perfect excuse to relax !!

Exercise class was a cicruits class. I really enjoyed it as it was a positive reminder of what 'proper' exercise feels like. I am a bit that it has taken me so long but I have been pram walking several miles per week so not been entirely lazy. My muscles ache today though !!

Bella still here ?...

Lola where are you my dear ?

Ei good luck missus, do you feel positive this month ?

evenin ladies
hope all is well
teehee where abouts in the cotswolds are you going?? thats where we went last week camping (chipping norton) and it is a lovely part of england i reckon
bella not long to go my advice would be to put your feet up and dont take these last few days for granted as soon you will be a busy bee with your little lady
was it today or is it tomorrow you lot are meeting up?? i am still rather but DH is treating me to a nice meal out tomorrow night so i cant grumble
i am up to CD28 now and AF is due maybe monday or tuesday but who knows with my cycles i will prob hardly have an AF and be just as confused as last cycle ahh well... PMA all the way
xx ei xx

Hi ladies, I too have been lurking a bit this week as just have time to keep up but not really to post.

N has been very unsettled from about 4am onwards for the last couple of weeks so I'm pretty knackered. Not sure if I'm pleased or disheartened that Sparkly and Fruity have early risers no matter what time they go to bed. Hoping it's just a bit of a phase...

Fruity What a nightmare with the bridesmaid's dresses! I'm sure you will get it sorted - even if it costs a packet! Keep us updated.

Cricri So sorry to hear about your friend. Thank goodness she's getting some good care, it must help her stay positive. I'm sure that e-mail would've been a hard one, words just don't seem sufficient but I'm sure you did brilliantly.

Mibbes How was the class. I'm doing post-natal yoga and I ached like mad the day after this week - I have never ached after yoga fgs! Just goes to show how much your body suffers.

On that note - Take it easy [scully]. I think 5 mins of swing pushing is quite enough. Remember you are a bit (whispers) older this time and you have 2 tearabouts already so it's bound to be a bit hairy to begin with. You'll get there. How is your lovely boy doing? Fantastic about the weight gain.

Piper OMG - girls - I bet DH is dreading the bathroom queue even now - pink central at your house then. So, we have 4 boys and 3 girls already, 4 more girls on the way and a boy so Mollie you need to even things up a bit for the blue corner. I can just imagine you with a little boy! (Noah and I are still chanting our positive song for you!)

Ei Can you cross out on titles - new thread sounds great - in fact perhaps we should get to it now as it might be lucky for you.

So, we are packed for our holiday. Who knew you would need so much for a week in the Cotswolds! Need to eat - what do you think - Fish & Chips or Stir Fry! No internet at our cottage but will probably log in at some point just to see if Bella has introduced Imogen - Good luck ......push and breathe!

Hi ladies,
Another busy day here sorting etc. Menial house tasks are never ending!
Bhudda Two weeks to go - woop! Try and look forward to it. I'm sure everything will be fine.
Bella I'd be willing to wait a bit more than a week for a sweep as I think they are more successful when you are overdue. I had one at 41 weeks but it didn't get labour going.
Scully It must be so bloody hard having the girls as well as a newborn. I don't know how I'll cope and I've only got 1DD to think about.
Cricri Glad to read that your friend is in good hands. Fingers crossed for them.

I've updated the list. Not sure if I've messed up anyone so feel free to correct. They'll soon be another two lovely newborn girls to celebrate.

Jaamy TTC#3 (MC Mar 08 and Sept 08)
HappyAndEiKnowIt cycle 22 (CP/MC april, june08 & april 09)

Infanticipating
BellaHarry 39 weeks pg EDD 29th July
Lola 35 weeks pg EDD 26th August
Piper 26 weeks pg TWINS!! EDD 16 - 23 October
Sparkly 26 weeks pg EDD 30th October
Molliemooma 20 weeks pg (BFP 6th Apr) EDD 16 December

Graduates
Emmsy GIRL! Amy Louise born 7th October 08 5lbs 12oz
CriCri GIRL! Elise Vivienne at 0630am 4th November 08, 7lbs 15oz
Mibbes BOY! Evan, born 3rd December 08, 6lbs 5oz
Fruity BOY! Jack, born 18th March 09, 8lbs 5oz
Teeheelaydee BOY! Noah Robert, born 13th April 09, 6lbs 12oz
Scully BOY! Conor, Born 11th July 09, 7lb 13oz
HeyThereGeorgieGirl GIRL! Flora Beatrice, Born 18th July 09, 9.24am, 8lbs 7oz

Buddha it would be nice to all meet one day. I wish I could find you all on fb but seem to have trouble finding some people, reckon fb has it in for me!

Consutant wants to let nature tke it's course as baby has gone from 3/5 to 1/5 engaged over the last week and my extra mucus and loose bowel (sorry) means I might not need it booked in for next fri if not.

Hope evryone's having a nice day and not getting rained on as we are? X

Bella Good luck with persuading consultant
Piper Congrats on finding out you're having pink ones, how lovely
CriCri Glad to hear your friend is coping so well with her terrible news (well at least putting on a brave front) I really hope it works out for them
Sparkly Slow down missus your putting us all to shame!
Lola You OK?
Fruity Pants about the bridesmaids dresses, when are you off to meet your dress
EI Love the new thread name

Apologies for not posting much but had a few issues at work, so just been switching off completely in the evenings, have been lurking though I'm looking forward to the mini-meet up tommorrow, hopefully will meet everyone at some point
Well next scan is 2 wks today, there was a tiny part of me that was looking forward to it as we'll find out the flavour, but after hearing about CriCri's friend I'm back to just worrying I know I know it doesn't mean it will happen to us, but you know what it's like!

piper giries yay!!! How gorgeous! All those matching pink dresses and bonnets aaw!

Off to consultant in an hour to hve bp checked after last weeks 'high' maybe I can persuade him to do a sweep!? Didn't sleep a wink feel like a baloon ready to burst!

Hi ladies x

Congrats on the scan Piper, 2 girls, how lovely
Hope you find some bridesmaids dresses soon Fruity, don't know where you're finding the time to do all this wedding stuff, with 2 children and working
I am still feeling so tired and drained, much more so than I remember after dd2. Especially after reading all the housework you're doing Sparkly, slow down Can't see much getting done around here when dh goes back to work next Thurs. At least he has filled the freezer with meals, that will be a big help for the first couple of weeks he's back.
How was the class Mibbes? And Evan at the creche?
Need to get up now and push dd2 on the swings, would rather just lie on the sofa and doze, but I'll be a good mother, for 5min anyway

Thanks for all your messages about my friend. I had an email from her today in reply to mine after she told me the news (it took me ages to compose as I didn't quite know what to say). Anyway, she sounds as OK as can be. Reading between the lines she's continuing with the pregnancy and she's in good hands with her doctors from the sound of it. Quite a centre of expertise where she lives. She's having to take drugs to prevent premature labour as obviously the longer baby stays in the womb the stronger she will be. She sounded quite strong and positive in her email but she must be on a massive emotional roller-coaster with all this going on. Pregnancy is stressful at the best of times, without all this. Anyway, I've already mentioned MN to her so perhaps she'll consider posting. Anyway...
Piper Yay for your two girls I agree with Sparkly, girls are wonderful. Lovely news!
Mibbes How was your exercise class? Hope you're not aching too much today I also hope Evan didn't mind being in the creche. I've been leaving Elise at the gym creche for a good few months now and she's been fine. She even managed to fall asleep on Tuesday with lots of children screaming playing around her and an exercise class going on next door so she's obviously comfortable there! The staff are really nice which helps.
Bella Not long now I'm sure!
Scully Little Connor is doing really well - great news about him being back up to his birth weight
Fruity What a nightmare with the bridesmaids' dresses! Hope you find something suitable. Enjoy seeing your dress for the first time - it's a very special moment

Fruity Yey for wedding dress. I can't wait to see pics. PITA about bridesmaid dresses. Fingers crossed you'll find something you like even more than the ones you've not been able to get hold of.

Just finished the ironing and washed all the floors downstairs. Think I'll sit on my botton and watch TV now.

Oi! Piper Sling one of those girls my way please! How wonderful! Are they identical?

cricri That is just awful news, I can't imagine what they are going through right now

Sparkly That's the same as DS, he always wakes at around 6/6:30 no matter what time he goes to bed. Did L enjoy the show?
Leave the ironing for the ironing fairy - that's what I do

mibbes Good luck with the exercise class! You will feel so good after

Bella you could have another 2 weeks over No comment - God I hope I'm wrong, c'mon Immy!!

Ei Loving the thread name idea. Can't wait to see you in Sept! No excuses this time

Scully I love the new pics of little Connor on FB, he's adorable!
Sounds like he's doing well. It took ages for Jack to get back up to his birth weight. But I was starving him poor thing

I got a phone call today to say my Wedding dress is in! I might have to go along to meet it

Having a nightmare with bridesmaid dresses. A lot of the ones I'd seen are now end of line and new stock not in till Sept! Also trying to find dresses to fit two rather large 10/11 year olds - not easy! Going dress trying in Peter Jones on Sunday

Bella Ah well...not long now.
Piper WOOHOO for the girls. How does it feel to know? Girls rock.

Massive pile of ironing to start .

hi ladies, Just a quick post in between appointments,
Firstly a Huge congrats to Georgie Love the name flora
Scully Great that Connor is feeding so well and puting on weight

Had a scan today which revealed that we are having two .............drum roll........... GIRLS! both measuring bang on 25 weeks and both weighing approx 1lb 5oz each. Will come back on later and catch up properly xxx

Grr just posted long message, and now blackberry deleted it! Oh well, I did try to catch up with some of you but I'll have to try again later. I'm still 'with child' though! X

Gg

Morning ladies,
I went to watch my niece in a singing show last night. She's 11 and did a brill solo. DD came too which meant she didn't get to bed until 10:45pm but she was very good and still woke up early. She'd wake up at the same time even if I put her to bed at 5pm - that's not a bad idea .
Mibbes You're very brave. I don't enjoy exercising in the slightest. Good luck. I'm sure all your hard work will pay off.
Bella Still here? It might be a good book to explore those issues and look at 'the greater good' etc but it's very chick-lit-like but would provoke a good discussion.
Ei [waves] Love your idea for thread title. You're always so imaginative!!
Scully Hooray for Connor and his feeding. DD fed lots and never lost any weight but instead put on over a 1lb in her first week. She's always been on 75th centile for her weight - poor girl . She LOVES her food.

Where is everyone else? You're all quiet .

crici so sorry to hear about your friend, how dreadful , good idea about posting on here to find helpful advice as to how you can help her. I wouldn't know where to start.

Bella you still here ?!! I thought you'd be well on the way by now. Get bouncing on a gym ball then walk, walk, walk !

Ei love the cheeky thread name

Fruity I see on FB you are having a nightmare with bridesmaid dresses - booo . Have you tried Debenhams ? Must be a nightmare, how many do you have to get ?

I have decided that enough is enough and tomorrow I'm off to the 'new mums' exercise class and putting DS into the creche. Am a bit nervous about leaving him with a stranger but everyone says it is a really good creche and I am bored of having a flabby belly. Crunches here I come - YIKES !

Hi all

ei cheeky thread name sounds good x

Scully well done with your little 'guzzler' fantastic that he's feeding so well.

Sparkly that book is on my 'to read' list, I reckon I could use it to teach year 12 (Ethics) as we look at genetic engineering and the 'saviour sibling' debate??

cricri your poor friend! that is terrible news, nothing can prepare you for that

No changes here, things have gone a little quiet actually, I woke with cramps at 3am but fell back to sleep within half an hour and have nothing to write home about today. Just have to ride it out I suppose. 1 week 'til due day; maximum of 3 weeks 'til baby as don't want to go too over-due, at that rate Lola could overtake me?

hey ladies
cricri sorry to hear about your friend
bella ooooh sounds positive, there again i had bad BH's for the last 4 weeks with DD and i even went into hospital to be checked twice as they were 4 mins apart!! good luck!!
hello to everyone else
i am of your meet up but i cant come due to short notice and lack of funds ahh well...i will be coming to georgies one in sept
i dont mind if we change the thread name to my mission but maybe it should be something with a bit of a funny twist...like Ei's in on a mission(ary) position or somethin...you know what i mean lol
xx ei xx

Wow Sparkly, how nice to wake up to a quiet house Not sure if I could sit through that movie, looks good, but very sad, don't think my hormones are up to it yet.
Very of your trip to France Cricri, how lovely will that be.
Love all the dresses you've put links to Fruity Shoes are also very glam, don't think I'd wear shoes like that more than once or twice a year now, how sad is that
Had to have a pelvic scan yesterday, blood loss hadn't increased but had changed colour back to red, and I had some discomfort around my scar. Scan shoed some retained product, but hopefully a does of antibiotics should fix it, and help my lingering cold as well. ds still going well with his feeding, I'm still expressing, will try bf again soon, maybe on the weekend. He's up to 100ml a feed now, little piglet
Had him weighed on Mon as well and he has regained the weight he lost at birth and then a little more, so a good effort to do that by day9. The nurse said they usually like them to do that by day14. He's on the 50th percentile too, never had a child budge off the bottom of the graph for growth so a new experience to have a little guzzler

Cricri I am so sorry to hear about your friend. I can't imagine how it must feel to be given that sort of news. It might be worth starting a thread to see if you can find anyone (I'm sure there will be people willing to share their experiences) who has been in the same situation. Maybe you can then fwd info etc. on to your friend? I felt so useless when my friend lost her little girl last year and there were so many MN who shared information and ideas for ways to support her. All the best to them and to you.

Have just been to see 'My Sister's Keeper' with my sister. I silently sobbed through the whole film. I still feel like crying now. The film was so much sadder than the book.

We didn't bake....DD was playing happily in her bedroom so I had a nap and when I woke up the house was silent - DP had taken her to visit his mother and sister....BLISS!

Oooh, Bella sounds very promising! Hope things kick off properly for you soon, you must be starting to get fed up of thinking "Is this it?" and then things stopping again.
Emmsy Lovely to "see" you! I keep meaning to look at your FB profile to see if you have any new photos of Amy. Is she starting to crawl yet? Elise keeps trying to but reverts back to bum-shuffling.
Mibbes Elise just has two bottom teeth at the moment. I thought I could see one of the top ones in the gum yesterday but I'm not sure.
Fruity All those lovely dresses! Shame the Coast one wasn't the right size though.
It's true I was in France in May so I guess it does seem as though I've only just come back!
Sparkly Well, did you bake or watch a DVD??
On a sadder note, I had an email from a friend today who is expecting her first baby in November. Unfortunately her anomaly scan revealed that baby has a congenital diaphragmatic hernia and the prognosis isn't great. She and DP have been given a 30% survival rate so as you can imagine she's devastated I really feel for her, I know how worried DH and I were when our anomaly scan revealed Elise's kidney dilatation but this is in a different league all together. Even if the baby survives long enough after delivery to have the necessary corrective surgery, it's a major procedure I searched on MN to see if I could find anything on CDH, but didn't see much.

Sparkly Did you manage to bake anything? C's just made a pizza for his tea and it's delicious. I had to have one slice

I had to return the dress I bought from Coast cos they gave me the wrong size. While I was in Elys I spotted a gorgeous pair of Karen Millen Shoes in the sale. I kept walking past them until I finally gave in and tried them on - I now have them here at home To be fair, they are a late b'day pressies from DP. We paid half each so I only actually paid £30 for them
No I promise I won't be treating myself anymore! I'm so incredibly skint now I'm not quite sure what I'm going to do [stupid emoticon] I don't know what's wrong with me, I'm actually incredibly overdrawn so digging myself a deeper hole. I just can't say no. I blame my mother - she's the same
Pay day soon, I'll behave, I promise!

When is it going to stop raining??

We've been to the museum this am but am tempted to stay in this afternoon and do some baking with L. I don't want to get soaked AGAIN!!

Bella Any more signs this pm?
Fruity Buy all of the dresses . You can outfit change every couple of mins then.
Emmsy [waves]
Ei How do you feel about taking over the thread title? I think it's a nice idea but obviously want you to give the go ahead before we do.
Mibbes How is little E?
Cricri Poor E. Teething is no fun. Am very of your trip to France. Have a fab time and take lots of pictures for me to coo over.

Hmm am now reconsidering baking in favour of a DVD. [Bad Mum Emoticon!]

Still here.

Fruity I like the second one x

Morning!

Bella oooooooooooooohhhhhhh, I've just texted you xx

Emmsy!!!!!! I've put your number in my phone. I hope all is well. I bet little Amy is HUGE now

I think emmsy's right, shall we change it now, we've only got another 95 posts to go, might just as well? I think Ei's mission is a great idea. Feel a bit sad that we won't have Emmsy in the title though, perhaps we can stick it in there somewhere? Doesn't feel right without it....

cricri ooh, teeth not nice. You're going to France again? I swear you've only just been

Re the dress, I think we'll order the one I showed you and this one which my Mum loves in the older girls sizes and try them on them. I love the big bow at the back of the BHS one.

I went into Coast yesterday and on the spur of the moment bought this in the sale. It was half price (couldn't find you a pic at Coast as it's sold out online. I also really like this

I could take the other one back as I haven't looked in Monsoon yet. Really want to try on their wedding dresses and the Beau one.

Decisions decisions..........

Ladies you are the best!
I ask one request now, please! I don't get time to come on line very often, the kids always get there first!
Please from now on can you post to, me on face book. I would really respect you all now if you changed the name to 'EI'S Mission'!
I wish you all, lot's of happiness and love for the future. XX
If anyone wants to text me my number is :07708 128353
Sparkly probably has my other details! Take care girls, I wish you all so much happiness!! XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

georgie I'm just heading off to fb to see these pics!

Nice idea about the meet, Swindon's not too far from my mum's but I'm just too far gone to risk the journey. Hope you have fun x

Well after my bust of energy things really kicked off over here, 4pm I had bh that increased in intensity and pain wrapped right around my lower back and abdomen, I had an incredible urge to walk and did lap after lap of my road everything getting really intense and painful, got in bounced on ball, still having the cramps and then had a bath at 5 (hour of constant progress) then it all stopped! Had a rest for an hour on bed but that was it, false start! Not too bothered as still early and was good to get an insight in to what will happen, but it would be convenient for it to start up again tonight as I only have until 23rd to have my Cancerian baby! Then we cross in to Leo, so please send some vibes.

Hope you all have a pleasant evening, I'm off to play a board game with DH x

Oh and cricri am very of a month in France.

and sparkly and teehee good luck for the next 6 weeks - I am usually pleased to see DP go back to work after 1 week off !

Buddha well done on buying stuff, a big step but such a fun one ! The bedding is gorgeous and I love the wee knitted bunny

Georgie wee Flora is adorable

Ei well done on the PMA - I agree that it will happen when you least expect and I also predict that will be soon... from my sums this month you may have timed it very well indeed

Fruity I agree that the dress looks lovely for an older girl too - have you asked her if she'd wear it ?

Lola where are you missus ?

cricri how many teeth does Elise have now ?

Bella is a sudden burst of energy not one of the signs of impending labour ?... ooooh exciting ! I reckon you will be early

Well no surprise that I can't make the meetup - sounds great, enjoy !

Evening ladies
Gorgeous photos Georgie Hope all is going well and good luck with the move. It will be nice to get all settled now that Flora is here.
How is our other new mummy Scully? Hope Connor is feeding better.
Am very of you all meeting up on Saturday. Unfortunately Swindon is a bit far for me I'll have to wait until we go to Georgie's in September.
Fruity Sounds as though you've got some good ideas for your "official" dress so hope you find something. The bridesmaid's dresses are lovely too.
Buddha I'm really pleased you've started buying stuff for LO, well done grandad. It does seem surreal, in fact it didn't really hit me until Elise arrived and even then I still look at her now and can't quite believe it!
Ei Lovely to hear from you and fingers crossed for you this month, you've got a great PMA.
Sparkly Hope you have a more restful day tomorrow - don't forget to put your feet up occasionally!
Teehee Hope you were able to advise on the position of the shed so that it's just right How are you feeling this week? Now that DP is home he'll be able to help you with Noah so make sure you get lots of me time!
Bella Bursting with energy sounds very promising... Not long now I'm sure!
All well here, counting down the days until we go to France for a month (16!) In the meantime Elise is as lovely as ever. We took her to the zoo yesterday and she was very intrigued by some of the animals.
She's teething again though poor thing.

Fruity Sorry to see you can't make it . You'll be missed but I'm hoping to get up to London in next few weeks whilst I can still walk so we'll def have to meet up then.

Georgie Gorgeous pics!

Aw, I'm so miffed I can't come on Saturday. C's got a party to go to, then gymnastics until 2pm. DP would never go instead, especially as we wouldn't be leaving him there.
I suppose I'll have to wait for Georgie's extension warming - I'm just too impatient. I'm sure you'll all have fun

Just checked The Trainline and it's £40 return so couldn't have made it anyway

Georgie She is so beautiful. I especially love the pic of the three sisters. They are going to break some hearts!!

After realising that Teehee is going to be not too far away this weekend, we've decided to meet up in Swindon on Saturday. Lola and I had a chat on FB and she is coming too as is Bhudda. I think we'll me meeting around midday and going to Pizza Express. It's short notice but not sure if any of you other ladies want to come along? I'm getting the train and it seems pretty straight forward to get to Swindon this way. Would be great to see you there if you can make it. xxx

Just had a peek at Flora and I know it was a long wait but she just looks so perfectly ready to have been born - clearly Georgie she wasn't coming until she was at her most gorgeous.

Enjoy your 3 lovely girls!

Hey guys. Have uploaded some pics of Flo onto FB. Go check her out! xx

Teehee We haven't p*ssed each other off [yet] today but I'm sure we'll soon getting fed up each other. Nap has left me with a headache. I'm rubbish at short sleeps!

Hiya

Noah is having a nice long nap and really should be doing something useful but am MN'ing instead (What's more useful than that?)

Nice to hear from your Georgie and good luck for the move, mind you probably best to do it while Flo is still doing that sleep all the time thing - I take it she is behaving and sleeping alot! Take it easy though.

So, Bella you are now officially NEXT - excited or nervous? Glad to hear you are enjoying your last few days/weeks.

Buddha LOVE the new purchases - well done Grandad for getting you started. Things are going to speed up now I predict. Hope you can start to 'enjoy' it a bit.

Sparkly Is it nice to have DP around to help. We have managed to get on with our own day's today and have yet to annoy each other but then this is day one and we have another 6 weeks to go! Enjoy your nap - oh I remember them well.

Fruity I agree with Sparkly those dresses are gorgeous and not too young. Maybe you the older ones could have more grown up shoes and/or hair etc. Also I thought Lola's dress was black which could be a bit racey for the official bit but if it's brown I think it would be gorgeous.

Apparently my presence is required in the garden to be consulted on the position of the new shed - ah my glamorous life.

See you later

Hi all,
I'm shattered today. Took DD to a play place and then to the beach. DP has taken her to see his mother now so am planning a sneaky nap before they arrive home.
Fruity I think that dress would be gorgeous for the older girls too. It doesn't look 'young' to me at all. You have to serve up the right orders in that game and make sure the food isn't over/under cooked. It gets so addictive when you get the hang of it.
Ei It's strange when they suddenly stop being toddlers and become little girls isn't it? Hope you had a fab break and that the 'relaxing' pays off. It IS going to happen for you and I can't bloody wait .
Bhudda Go on!! Am so glad you've started buying. You won't be able to stop now .
Georgie Lovely to hear from you. Hope you're having lots of time to rest up and not over doing it. Good luck with the move - do lots of delicating. Can't wait to see pics of Flora.
Scully Any more pics of Connor? Bet he's changing everyday.
Bella We had a few names picked out for DD but none of them suited her. Took us nearly two weeks to name her. I think it's going to be so much harder to name a boy. We're really struggling.

Hello to everyone else.

ei good to hear from you. And great to see you're so positive, my sis got pg after a quiet month on the bd front and a weekend camping with in-laws so hmmm x

fruity today I woke up and hardly felt pg! Been running around all over the place seem to have so much energy even going out for drinks tonight in Wimbledon with friends! No twinges out of the ordinary and the bh are more irregular again, mainly in the evening. Not to worry though as have a v busy week planned and perhaps this is the calm before the storm? As for bridesmaid dresses, my little sis (12 at time of wedding) really wanted to wear the same 'grown up' bridesmaid as my big ones so I had one altered for her, made. Bit more suitable (no cleavage etc) she seemed chuffed.

Morning ladies

Well yesteday was pretty much a write off - major hangover for most of the day.

I well and truly wet little Florence's head on Sat night (and also celebrated a friend's 30th) I didn't make it in until 5am I can honestly say I have never ever had such a bad hangover. Couldn't even lift my head. I was pretty much comatose until around 2pm.
Managed to get round to my friend's house for her family b'day tea though by 3.30, amazingly.

How are we all doing then, let me have a look at yesterday's round up......

Bella Looking promising lady! Keep me updated
btw I love the name Mia. Would that be pronounced Me-a or My-a? I love both but really like Me-a. I can only see her as an Imogen now though as you've called her that for so long (equally a lovely name)

Georgie Absolutely stunning picture of little Flo Po - a delicious little chubba. I'm absolutely desperate for a girly cuddle. Just let me know when you've moved in and and you fancy having 5 minutes rest and I'll pop over for a cuppa

Ei You're absolutely right "It will happen!" I so admire your positivity. I had given up all hope after only 11 months - I'm hopeless!
I still think of S as the cutey chubby little girl at Sparkly's house that time when was that? - ages ago right?
I bet she's grown up so much since then It'd be lovely to get L, S and C together again

Buddha very cute bedding set! I love the cot in the picture, did you look at cots too?
What pushchair do you have your eyes on? (you know I love a pushchair)

Lola I also did the massage. I think I used Wheatgerm oil. Did it every morning but only for about 10 seconds so it probably wouldn't have made much difference and I have no idea if it would have helped or not.

Scully you have your DH well trained! Or has the novelty not worn off yet?
Glad you're managing to get some rest - you need it!

Sparkly I don't get that game? I had a go but I don't think I was doing it right

About the dress for the reg office - I really really like Lola's suggestion (the brown Beau dress) but I also love Teehee's knee length white dress. I think I might be better off with sleeveless as I'm quite broad across the shoulders. I might have to go into Monsoon and try a few on. The one in Kingston is the only one near my with Wedding dresses so will have to make a special trip
I've found these bridesmaid dresses which I adore! Not sure if the 10/11 year old will want to wear them though? What do you think? Maybe just for the 4 year old? But then what do I get for the 10/11 year olds?

hi everyone
just a quickie now to say...
georgie MASSIVE congrats on the birth of little flora beatrice lovely name and cant wait to see photos
scully glad you picked a name and a lovely one at that
hello to everyone else
sparkly loved the pics on FB and L is looking like a lovely grown up girl S is getting that way now...hardly any babyness left now
well im on CD23 andmy ferning thing gave me full ferns on CD19 so hopefully i have oved but eithr way we only BDed tuesday and a few days before then as we were both shattered wed/thur and then we were camping with the in-laws all weekend in gloucestershire so no nookie time for us but hey ho not to worry!! i am still of the mindset that IT WILL HAPPEN!!
speak later
xx ei xx

Georgie Cross posts, so lovely to hear from you, glad to hear the your dd's are loving Flora, I'm sure the novelty will wear off especially once she starts crying Can't believe you're moving this week! Just take it easy hun, don't go over doing it, I bet you can't wait to be home with your big happy family

Oh my you lot are making me cringe with shows' and perineal massages the things we do!!

Well I did make it to Babies r Us and bought all our nursery bedding (well my soft dad did bless him ) It's this one Also bought a gorgeous knitted bunny plus some cot sheets, not that we've got a cot or anything! Still feels very surreal, but it's a step in the right direction. We've also picked our pushchair but not buying it yet, feels like a huge step getting this stuff the rest can wait til after the next scan.

Hope you all have had a good weekend and avoided the rain that we've had, summer my arse!

Hi Ladies. Back home from hospital. Had to stay over night as Flo had meconium in her waters so they needed to monitor her. All OK now. Mollie and Libby already fighting over her!

Am feeling tired and my 'lady garden' <thanks Sparkly, great name!> is battered. But happy that it's all over. Will post grisy details tomorrow.

Thanks for all your lovely messages. Wow, I feel almost sane again!

She looks exactly the same as Libby, but has Mollie's body shape. Will post some pics tomorrow when DH uploaded them.

Busy week for us as we move on Wed/Thurs. But by this time next week we should be back in the new/old house. Then I can start getting this MN lunch organised! Lots of love to everyone. Will post more tomorrow. xxxx

sparkly hope it 'pops' back in then. I think she will be Imogen; other names include Lilly and Mia. Hope she looks like an Imogen .

Any more news from Georgie?

Lola I admit I did do the massage - hated it but got used to it and timed 10mins max. Not very glamorous and obviously you don't have to BUT - I had no tearing or stitches, no idea if a coincidence but hey. Treated myself to this to make it more bearable and used the mothers balm.

Will catch up with the rest later - someone make me some lunch!

Afternoon all,
Am killing some time whilst waiting for lunch to cook. Walked into town this am with DD to buy some clothes for one of her bears from The Bear Factory. Weather here is so miserable so we're going to have an afternoon in.
Bella Any further symptoms? Baby could be dropping down a lot and causing the pressure. It won't be long now. Do you know what you're going to call her? It's not def a hernia but have to keep an eye on it. No need to worry as long as it pops back in by itself.
Scully Sounds like you've got a great routine going. It must be amazing to have that much straight sleep with a newborn.
Lola I didn't do it either. I meant to but I just couldn't bring myself to do it. Is it wheatgerm oil you're supposed to use?
Bhudda Have you made it to Babies R Us? Buy anything?

I'm shattered today and I slept really well last night . We need some sun!

Lola uh huh, once I'm gone it's all on you! [Grin]

Still achey this morning, no real change, quite enjoying the feelingt though

Wow Bella sounds like it could be soon for you then
Big congrats Georgie great news & at least the labour was qiuck once it got started. Flora is a lovely name, prob shouldnt mention it's a brand of margarine here
Lola I never did the massage, never got around to it & the thought put me off, tbh
dh stayed up again last night and did the midnight feed, making such a difference to me being able to go to bed at 9.30pm and not wwake up until around 3am. dh has the choice of the Ashes or the British Open to watch as well, in the middle of the night
One thing I meant to mention yesterday and forgot to, any new mums who get sore nips should try and source these, or something like them over there. Wish I had known about them with the dd's. They are gel pads that you use with normal breast pads and really help the healing and you if you have broken the skin, you won't stick to them.
Hope you're all having a great weekend

Bella the others will know far better than me, but I think there's a difference between a show and a 'bloody show', so still sounds to me like you may well have had the former!! How exciting! Doesn't sound like you'll be top of the list for too long! (Ohmygod just realised what's going to happen once Bella's not top of the list... )

Quick question, perineal massage.... I know I should be doing it but somehow I just can't bring myself to.... How many of you did it? (do I REALLY have to???) Lady I saw today said it was the thought of her bits looking like a dropped kebab afterwards if she didn't do it that finally spurred her on! Feel a bit sick now...

Sorry not to catch up properly with everyone, am shattered. Again. Bedtime now. Night all, sweet dreams xx

Sparkly is it a hernia then? for sure?

Buddha Hope you have a fab time shopping tommorrow, I love it!

As for you questions: I don't think it could be considered a 'show' from what I've established that is grissly? It's just interesting in that it is different, I have had a week of very watery disharge and then today this thicker stuff kinda blob like but no blood or anything. Have had a low down back ache since 12pm today and lots of strong pressure on my pelvic floor; added to the more regular bh (every 5 mins when being monitored at hospital last night) it all just feels very 'different'. Baby's movements are slower too, but then I'm not sure I'd feel them as my belly is like a rock more than it's squishy today. I don't think anything will happen too soon, but I really do feel this is the very early stages? I have high blood pressure for the first time in my life, tests are negative for pre-eclampsia so I was thinking could this also be a sign? I'm due in 11 days.

Georgie Hurray for you! I bet you are so relieved it's all over and done with. Welcome Flora Beatrix, hope you get on well with your little sisters x
Bella Share all, give us some more details on your "interesting" bits
Mibbes Sorry to hear ds was poorly on your hols, I can imagine how stressful it would have been with no way of getting hold of anyone. Glad he's a bit better
Scully I love the name Connor, it's a very strong name, sounds like you've got the feeding sorted now, hope your (.)(.) get better soon
Sparkly I'm confused I can't see the 4d pics on your profile?
TeeHee That dress is gorgeous, I can imagine you with flowers in your hair and lovely curly waves
EI If your lurking sweet hope your OK, come back soon as the end of your 2WW will be over
Fruity did you decide on a colour for the dresses after?

Big waves to Lola & CriCri

Well I hope your all impressed I actually went baby window shopping today, looked at pushchairs and nursery bedding at a local shop, may even go over to Babies R Us tomorrow as they have a big sale on, never know I might actually buy something Still feels unreal, like I'm shopping for someone else, can't imagine a baby actually in the pushchair

PS. Have a go at this. It's so addictive. I've wasted two days on it .

Wooohhhooooo!!! Massive congrats to Georgie. I bet you're so thrilled little Flora is finally here. Hope you're recovering well and that the girls are enjoying their new baby sister.
Bella Sound good! Is it 10 days till your EDD?
Scully Great name for your little boy. Glad he's feeding better.
Fruity L was 8lb 6 so can't see this one being any smaller. My poor lady garden will be taking a battering!! Enjoy yourself tonight.
Bhudda Yey for flutters .

Saw MW and she said not to worry about SPD for the min but to keep an eye on possible hernia. Fundal measurement was 27cm so 2cm bigger for the moment. She said 'we'll keep an eye on it'....

Jaamy TTC#3 (MC Mar 08 and Sept 08)
HappyAndEiKnowIt CD 42 cycle 21 (CP/MC april, june08 & april 09)

Infanticipating
BellaHarry 38 weeks pg EDD 29th July
Lola 34 weeks pg EDD 26th August
Piper 25 weeks pg TWINS!! EDD 16 - 23 October
Sparkly 25 weeks pg EDD 30th October
Molliemooma 19 weeks pg (BFP 6th Apr) EDD 16 December

Graduates
Emmsy GIRL! Amy Louise born 7th October 08 5lbs 12oz
CriCri GIRL! Elise Vivienne at 0630am 4th November 08, 7lbs 15oz
Mibbes BOY! Evan, born 3rd December 08, 6lbs 5oz
Fruity BOY! Jack, born 18th March 09, 8lbs 5oz
Teeheelaydee BOY! Noah Robert, born 13th April 09, 6lbs 12oz
Scully BOY! Conor, Born 11th July 09, 7lb 13oz
HeyThereGeorgieGirl GIRL! Flora Beatrice, Born 18th July 09, 9.24am, 8lbs 7oz

Yes Bella was just about to ask - what do you mean 'interesting'. Could it be your 'plug' do you think? Don't worry about TMI!

waaah Bella do you think that was your show ? How exciting - it is like a labour ward on here at the moment !!

Hi teehee, you booked any 'me-time' yet ? I get my nails done every 2-3 weeks and hair every 5 weeks to ensure that I have an afternoon off at least once a fortnight - MIL takes DS and I am briefly baby-free

Holiday was good except the first night DS came out in spots on his body and sores on his bum, he was quite upset and had a fever. This was stressful enough but with no access to internet, a landline that accepted incoming calls only and very limited mobile reception I felt very anxious that he took a turn for the worse and we were unable to get help. I sensibly didn't have any wine and was a bit that DP happily knocked them back without a care in the world - grrrr. He has been ok for the most part of the week but had some wobbly moments and still has the spots but they are fading - no idea what they are. To be honest am glad to be home - missed contact with the world and feel more relaxed about DS not being 100% now.

BIG FAT CONGRATULATIONS Georgie!!!! what a relief that must be for you!

OMG I am officially next! had some interesting mucus like stuff (sorry )today and still having regular bh and have back ache so things are obviously moving in the right direction!

Scully lovely name
Hello everyone else and thank you for continuing to add to the birth details, really interesting reading. x

Sparkly
DD was born 15 days after EDD
Induced birth - Prostin pessary, waters broken, syntocyn but natural delivery after lots of pushing out back on back baby.
Pain relief - Gas and air. Bullied into having an epidural placed at about 8cms because consultant thought her bum was engaged and I'd need a section. They didn't top it up though or I'd have been pushing for 5 days.

Fruity
DS1 - 12 days late - induced 18 hour labour, ventouse, forceps, emergency c-section
Gas and Air (what a load of old sh*t)
Epidural (fantastic relief fom a terrible back labour but couldn't push properly so wouldn't advise unless you think it is absolutely the last straw)
DS2 - elective c-section so doesn't count.
Spinal tap block.
Probably would have been very late like C (if you remember, I added two weeks to my due date before I knew about c-section)

Teehee
2 days over due date, although waters broke on due date and unassisted delivery. No stitches. Pain relief - TENS (Teehee smiles smugly whilst ironing her SAS soldier uniform! wink)

Cricri
3 days after EDD (although had hindwater leak the day after EDD following a sweep)
8 hour labour, 4 hours pushing (2 at home, 2 in hospital), syntocyn, episiotomy, ventouse delivery

Scully
dd1 - emergency c/s (breech) after going into waters breaking and going into labour 8days early
dd2 - vbac, TENS, gas and air, stitches, 7hr labour, 8 days late
ds1 - vbac, gas and air, no stitches, 4hr labour, 3 days early

mibbes
DS was born 3 days before EDD (missed being 4 days early by 20 mins !)
2 rounds of prostin gel then emergency c-section due to no waters being present, DS heartbeat dropping to 60bpm when contracting and cord round his neck.
TENS machine used but I am no hero - I only had about 2 hours of contractions which were apparently only 'very early labour' OUCH !

Big congratulations to Georgie and Mr Georgie and all the little Georgie's on the arrival of Flora. Can't wait to hear all the details and how things are going. Anyone know if she's home yet?

Love the name Connor Scully and sounds as if things are settling well. Your DS will have to get used to noise with 2 older sisters I think. Sharing the feeding is lovely and I'm with you, find pumping a chore but still do a bottle a day so that DP can share and I can get some decent hours of sleep. Must be so lovely that DD1 is old enough to help, almost makes me feel quite emotional imagining it .

Hi Mibbes nice to see you. Was it lovely to be away from civilisation or did you slowly go crazy. Nice holiday?

Fruity Any success with the dress. Loved the Lola one too, I also noticed a strapless white with pink flowers which I thought was rather weddingy. I also love this, saw it in the shop and almost made me want to get married!

Hi ladies - sorry for absence but we have been on holiday in a cottage which was so remote that there was no TV or radio reception, never mind anything as advanced a tinternet !! I have sooooo much to catch up on

scully congratulations ! MN photos are lovely, he is a wee corker . Am very at speedy delivery, well done you ! Glad the feeding is improving. I also expressed initially - DS finally latched on at 10 days old. Like you say it is good to share the feeds even though expressing is a pain. I LOVE the name Connor - it would've been on my list had a friend not 'nicked' the name while I was PG

Georgie WOOHOOOO congratulations - she has finally arrived , what a lovely name. Bet you are glad it is all over, look forward to seeing pics.

Bella I'd defo steer clear of sticking anything up there... YOU'RE NEXT !!!!

Sparkly PMSL at DS falling out ! Love the scan pics and am so glad you are so upbeat, sounds like you are enjoying being PG

Lola loving 'pelvic floor remaining intact' Hmmm I have to say I think I would've taken a peek.... have you looked yet ?

Buddha it took me a while but am with you now ! That is rubbish about exposure to flu but fab about fluttering - I miss that so much, it is such a special feeling - enjoy

Fruity love the new name and that Beau dress Lola pointed out is stunning.

Hooray for georgie!!! Welcome to the world Miss Flora Beatrice Congratulations to the Georgie household and well done you Georgie xxx
I hope to be popping over soon for a big newborn cuddle xx

Gorgeous name scully, so pleased he finally has a name

I'm off out tonight for a 30th birthday.
So far this morning I've taken C and J to gymnastics in Tooting, brought them home, went back to Tooting to get legs waxed, went to Morden to pick up authorities for wedding, on to Wimbledon to exchange some shoes (then realised I'd left them at home) on way home made a pitt stop in New Look, TK Maxx and the madness of the Next Sale (what a load of crap - big jumble sale). Now at home and deciding what on earth I'm going to wear tonight. We're going to Kensington for a meal then probably on to Covent Garden for drinks and I can't bloody wait. I have no idea who anyone is except the b'day girl so who knows what it'll be like...........

Congratulations Georgie Wonderful news! Love the names too - welcome little Flora Beatrice.
Scully Love the name Connor as well I'm so pleased his feeding has improved and it sounds as though he's quite alert when he's awake watching the circus going on around him!
Hope everybody is having a lovely weekend

Morning all And what a fabulous morning it is .....

Jaamy TTC#3 (MC Mar 08 and Sept 08)
HappyAndEiKnowIt CD 42 cycle 21 (CP/MC april, june08 & april 09)

Infanticipating
BellaHarry 38 weeks pg EDD 29th July
Lola 34 weeks pg EDD 26th August
Piper 24 weeks pg TWINS!! EDD 16 - 23 October
Sparkly 24 weeks pg EDD 30th October
Molliemooma 18 weeks pg (BFP 6th Apr) EDD 16 December

Graduates
Emmsy GIRL! Amy Louise born 7th October 08 5lbs 12oz
CriCri GIRL! Elise Vivienne at 0630am 4th November 08, 7lbs 15oz
Mibbes BOY! Evan, born 3rd December 08, 6lbs 5oz
Fruity BOY! Jack, born 18th March 09, 8lbs 5oz
Teeheelaydee BOY! Noah Robert, born 13th April 09, 6lbs 12oz
Scully BOY! Conor, Born 11th July 09, 7lb 13oz
HeyThereGeorgieGirl GIRL! Flora Beatrice, Born 18th July 09, 9.24am, 8lbs 7oz

BIG RESPECK to Miss GeorgieGirl for the world's longest early labour, followed by 2.5 hours of hell hardcore action hell (think I had it right the first time ) and an 8.5lb baby on gas & air alone What a superstar!

Yippeeeee for both our recent graduates! Bella you're next!!!!

Sparkly
DD was born 15 days after EDD
Induced birth - Prostin pessary, waters broken, syntocyn but natural delivery after lots of pushing out back on back baby.
Pain relief - Gas and air. Bullied into having an epidural placed at about 8cms because consultant thought her bum was engaged and I'd need a section. They didn't top it up though or I'd have been pushing for 5 days.

Fruity
DS1 - 12 days late - induced 18 hour labour, ventouse, forceps, emergency c-section
Gas and Air (what a load of old sh*t)
Epidural (fantastic relief fom a terrible back labour but couldn't push properly so wouldn't advise unless you think it is absolutely the last straw)
DS2 - elective c-section so doesn't count.
Spinal tap block.
Probably would have been very late like C (if you remember, I added two weeks to my due date before I knew about c-section)

Teehee
2 days over due date, although waters broke on due date and unassisted delivery. No stitches. Pain relief - TENS (Teehee smiles smugly whilst ironing her SAS soldier uniform! wink)

Cricri
3 days after EDD (although had hindwater leak the day after EDD following a sweep)
8 hour labour, 4 hours pushing (2 at home, 2 in hospital), syntocyn, episiotomy, ventouse delivery

Scully
dd1 - emergency c/s (breech) after going into waters breaking and going into labour 8days early
dd2 - vbac, TENS, gas and air, stitches, 7hr labour, 8 days late
ds1 - vbac, gas and air, no stitches, 4hr labour, 3 days early

Sparkly
DD was born 15 days after EDD
Induced birth - Prostin pessary, waters broken, syntocyn but natural delivery after lots of pushing out back on back baby.
Pain relief - Gas and air. Bullied into having an epidural placed at about 8cms because consultant thought her bum was engaged and I'd need a section. They didn't top it up though or I'd have been pushing for 5 days.

Fruity
DS1 - 12 days late - induced 18 hour labour, ventouse, forceps, emergency c-section
Gas and Air (what a load of old sh*t)
Epidural (fantastic relief fom a terrible back labour but couldn't push properly so wouldn't advise unless you think it is absolutely the last straw)
DS2 - elective c-section so doesn't count.
Spinal tap block.
Probably would have been very late like C (if you remember, I added two weeks to my due date before I knew about c-section)

Teehee
2 days over due date, although waters broke on due date and unassisted delivery. No stitches. Pain relief - TENS (Teehee smiles smugly whilst ironing her SAS soldier uniform! wink)

Cricri
3 days after EDD (although had hindwater leak the day after EDD following a sweep)
8 hour labour, 4 hours pushing (2 at home, 2 in hospital), syntocyn, episiotomy, ventouse delivery

Scully
dd1 - emergency c/s (breech) after going into waters breaking and going into labour 8days early
dd2 - vbac, TENS, gas and air, stitches, 7hr labour
ds1 - vbac, gas and air, no stitches, 4hr labour

So no baby Georgie, yet? Must have happened by now, with all those symptoms? Haven't been near the computer in 3days, a record for me I think
ds is feeding much better now and has the hang of waking up 3ish hours between feeds, without us having to wake him up. dh is more tired than me today, I got to sleep by 9.30pm and the baby woke me up about 3am, so had a nice amount of consecutive sleep. dh stayed up with ds and gave him his late feed before coming to bed around 12am. So he's now having an afternoon rest & I'm catching up on here I'm still expressing 90% of his feeds, he has 1, maybe 2 formula feeds a day, the rest is my milk. It's a hassle, but I will put him back on the boob next week sometime, when they've had longer to heal. Have to say though I love being able to share the feeding though, with dh and dd1, so it's not just me stuck to the sofa for 20hrs a day. Ok if it's your first baby but with other children to look after, it's been nice to share it.
How's the dress shopping going Fruity? I thought you already had one?
Love the scan pictures Sparkly
Hope you don't catch anything Buddha, how useless are your mgt though, not taking any precautions for any of their pregnant staff, or anyone else who falls into an at risk category.
I still have the cold I had before ds was born, it is sapping any energy I do have left each day. Have ventured out with dh and ds for an hour or 2 the last few days and that has been my limit, have need to come home afterwards. Nice to get out of the house but can't manage much. Don't remember being this drained after dd2, must be old age and the cold
For the first timers, it's definitely true what they say about getting the baby used to noise and they won't know any different. ds sleeps in his bouncer chair in the lounge during the day, with the dd's carrying on around him, the tv on (or the Hannah Montana cd the other day), me yelling at the dd's, all the usual noise, and if he's not hungry, then he sits there and looks around, or sleeps
Oh, and we have a name. Connor No 2nd name yet, still working on that one.....

Evening

haha Sparkly Poor you not likely to be having a teeny weeny 7lber. I think 8lb+ is about average these days anyway. Most of my RL friends have had babies 8lb+ Most have had 9 - 9.5lbers.
One gave birth at home to a 9.5lber with no trouble, although doesn't say much for her bits
BTW, Jack looks nothing like his 3d scan pics and didn't when he was born either (I don't think so anyway) but then again I had the scan at 26 weeks and a lot can change in that time.....
Interested to know what's popping out of you!

teehee that dress idea is fantastic, really like their wedding dresses, very simple and elegant. Probably wouldn't choose for the actual wedding but they look perfect for the official bit
I also love Lola's "Beau" choice!
cricri I'll look in Next but their stuff is so weirdly sized don't you think? Not sure what they model their clothes on

Georgie Don't blame you for turning your phone off. I'm sending you +ve labour vibes and hoping you are pushing right now!!

Buddah I know it's you, I originally thought it was bella cos of the belly bit - similar to the word bella
C's fine now and has been really most of the week, just didn't want to take any chances as he'd been in contact with my friend's "suspected swine flu" little boy. It was the sore throat that worried me and the night sweats, especially after reading about the child that died 48hrs after sore throat
By the sounds of it, I'm not sure there's much getting away from the dreaded Swine right now. All the schools except C's has had lots of cases. I'm sure it's more widespread than we think, it's just that most people get it quite mildly. Maybe C did have it for a couple of days but really mildly - he never gets ill so must have quite a good immune system. It's because he never washes his hands and eats off the floor
Aww, those flutterings are wonderful aren't they? So reassuring

Bella hope everything's ok. You certainly do not want back labour. I had this with C - seriously ouch! Imagine, your spine is about the snap in half, that is what it feels like. I will never ever forget that pain, I don't care what anyone says!
"Baby is healthy size" does not mean "big" just means not too small and not too big. They will never know how big baby is until she comes out so stop stressing woman!!

My diet has gone to pot this week. Had chips on Weds and have just demolished two large slices of chocolate cake and a lump of divine, posh, organic (so must be healthy) white choc with cranberrys (mmmmmmmmmmm)
I need to snap out of this, I was doing so well
exactly 5 weeks to the hen weekend in Milan and exactly 9 weeks to the wedding weekend
Haven't even sorted bridesmaid dresses yet

sparkly about suspected hernia, but at your gorgeous picies of bubba 2! love the thumb sucking! V cute.

Georgie really hope things have progressed for you now...have some belated vibes.......

Buddha please do search for me, I'm K Turner. Back is still twingy but not crippling

I've had an eventful evening so far, went for my routine mw apt (38 wk) at GP surgery and was told BP was up so sent to hospital; they monitored me and baby for 3 hours but wasn't terribly high and baby hb fine so sent home. I have to call at 9:30 to get blood results then may need to stop over if pre-eclampsia but unlikely as other symptoms absent. While I was being monitored however I was having mini contrations every 5 minutes! Very interesting! But as I was told baby is in dodgy position likely to cause 'back labour' (ouch) not so keen on giving birth tonight ...now on all fours just in case!! 3 doctors/mw examined me today and each one said 'baby is a healthy size'....basically telling me she's big right?! Oh dear

Buddha Fluttering, aaah how brilliant. I was only thinking yesterday that I can hardly remember what it felt like to be pregnant (although I do know that mostly it felt rubbish). Sounds like a nightmare at work. It's amazing how management SAY they will be supportive until they have to actually BE supportive.

Sparkly Don't know much about SPD but it sounds horrid. How disabling is it? Have you been googling like mad? Checked out your FB photos of L and she is a proper girly girl, so cute and the littlest of the dancers. I wonder if DS will be a proper little boy?

Georgie Hope all is going OK. Can't wait to hear your news. I can also vouch that long labours are the pits - mind you I have nothing to compare to - must be worst when the others have shot out in 4 hours.

Scully v'impressed with the support you're getting from the hosp. Hope everything is going well. Any name yet or is he still little boy Scully?

Lola Well, did you look? Come on you can confess to us. We love you and won't judge you for snooping

Fruity Love the new name - updates on the dress please.

I am enjoying a baby free half hour as DP is off out (again ) so is here with his friend having drinks and baby watching. I've still not arranged that 'me' time but as DP is off for the next 6 weeks I'm sure I will get plenty.

Hopefully you've all worked out who I am now

Georgie Sending you bucket loads of full on labour vibes, fingers crossed the next post tomorrow morning will be from you and your new little girl
Lola Naughty girl snooping! I would definately have opened it, I'm so crap at surprises, as a child I used to find and look at all my christmas presents!
Scully I hope you and your gorgeous little boy are settling in well? Have I missed the name yet?
Piper Lovely to hear from you, have you posted any bump pics yet?
Bella Will have to find you on FB for some reason I haven't before How's the back?
Fruity How is C doing? Love the new name
TeeHee Very impressed at your swimming outing I think that's something DH will be doing with ours!
Sparkly Get your pics on! Have you booked your appt yet? I have such wierd visions in my head of things popping out all over the place Seriously though hope everything is OK

Well my drama this week has been work, after my worries on Monday re swine flu, I have had several people coming in on a daily basis who have been diagnosed and taking antivirals for it, but still come in before the 5 days quarentine is up, I can understand they think it will affect their money if they don't come in but the stupid people are just spreading it! I wasn't happy having to see them as I'm sure you understand, but management wouldn't do anything without medical advice. So had a mw appt on Weds (heard HB again this time it was so loud I loved it ) she wasn't happy about the exposure and advised me to to talk to GP. Long story short, GP has written note to state I need to avoid public contact as my interviews can last up to 40-60 mins, work have now moved to our screened room. It's like a prison, I don't see anyone apart from the customers, I normally have a "special" desk due to neck and knee problems that I have but all of a sudden its fine for me to be on a narrow straight desk not designed for full time use We've now got our first 2 members of staff that are now off sick with swine flu too, poor girls are feeling really awful bless them.
Other than that not much to report, lots of fluttering today, I love it

Forgot to say - consultant last night wanted me to book in with the MW today. I'm getting pain when I'm walking and she thinks it might be SPD. Also, when I roll over onto my side to get up something pops out of my tummy under my ribs (and it's def not baby) so she thinks it might be a hernia.

Morning all,
Late night last night trying to figure out how to copy the 4D DVD - no luck yet. I'm hopeless at these things.
Georgie I turned my phone off at about 10 days overdue and didn't turn it back on until she was born 5 days later. People started turning up at the house to find out what was going on so I ignored the door . Am really hoping things kicked off during the night for you. Lots of love xxxx
Cricri That's a lovely idea to have a pic to focus on during labour. Did it help?
Fruity How is C today? Will pop over for a peek on that thread now.
Bella The scan was great thanks. Would love to go again but we have a mortgage to pay .
Lola I don't have a watch, never mind an automatic one . Stop snooping. x

Fruity was it you who liked the name Beau? It's a SIGN!!! Look!

Fruity love the new name! I'd look in Monsoon too, they seem to have had gorgeous stuff in their window every time I've walked past lately, have almost been glad (for mr credit card) that there's no point me going in there! What's their website like? Will look tom. What colours do you like yourself in?

FULL ON labour vibes coming your way as requested Miss Georgie, here's hoping for a productive night for you! Lots of love back xxx

Hey guys. I've turned my phone off. No offence, but can't answer anymore 'has the baby arrived texts'.

Had contractions on and off all day yesterday. They stopped when I went to bed last night. Woke up this morn and they started again. Pretty sore. Enough to stop me from walking (was in park with DD2). Got home about midday and had lost rather large mucus plug. Ugh. Contractions have been going on and off since 5pm every 10 mins. Pretty painful. Got DH home as thought this was finally it. Still contracting but have got no worse.

Am going to bed now as rather tired. Mum here to look after the girls. Just hope to god that somethig happens tonight as can't take much more of this. I'll break my own damn waters if I have to. Just can't beleive that this has gone on for soooooooo long.

Next time I brag about having short labours, someone kick me up the arse.

Lots of love to you all. Please send me some FULL ON labour vibes. xxxxxx

Lovely photos Sparkly The 4D scan is amazing and we were stunned to see the ressemblence when Elise arrived. It sounds stupid, but you know what I mean! I used the big scan picture we chose to focus on during labour
Fruity Good luck with the dress hunt - I would look in Monsoon too if Coast don't have anything suitable. Next also do a couple of "occasion" dresses and their sale starts on Saturday. Can't think of anywhere else at this late hour.
Lola I think I would have peeked as well Hope he's come up with the goods!
Must go to bed - disturbed night last night so hoping tonight is better. Night all!

just popping over to FB to see Master Sparkly

Fruityjuice I know I've just come from there but they had some of their wedding dresses half price at Monsoon - I know you won't want a wedding dress but some of them are short and just lovely cream dresses.

What kind of thing did you have in mind?

Only me quickly. Am too excited to catch up. Loved every second of scan. They've given up 15 photos and a 40 min DVD. I've taken a photo of a few of the pics (on FB) but will scan them when I have the chance.
Baby is measuring 26+1 and weighs over 2lb already. Am only 24+5. Consultant said 'There's no way he'll be a 7lber!!".

can anyone help me with this mumsnet.com/Talk/style_and_beauty/791897-Help-me-find-a-dress-for

I meant lickle not lickly

Lola I'm not saying anything, I'll only lead you astray
How's the Lin and Leo? Mine's scuffed already It's because when I put it on the P&T I have to hang it side ways which means it hits everything in my path

Well, I've texted Georgie about 20 minutes ago and no reply. I hope she's busy labouring!

I've changed my name too, any good?
I love Juicyfruit chewing gum but haven't seen it for ages so thought I would play on that a bit.

Teehee have fun at Monsoon!

mwahahahaha I've seen Sparkly's 3D pics, ner ner na ner ner
He's just divine! I beautiful lickly boy

Georgie???

Lola no peeking! I have been practicing my hypnobirthing stuff and reading the book, I do the cd everyday now and was doing it 1 to 3 times a week from 28 weeks so fingers crossed I can put it all in to action when the time comes. As for pelvic floor exercises, I have done none!! I know that's bad but it makes me feel sicky! Always has

sparkly yes, pet semetry is a horror, in which a baby get's run over! And I think is about to be buried ready for a creepy ressurection! Not the best for this time in life but I'm nearly done now. How did the scan go?

Bet you learn brevity after LO arrive - although come to think of it - I haven't!

Lola If you look and it's the wrong one - what will you do? I say don't look - however I KNOW I would

Don't forget to tell us if DH did come up trumps

Off to city now with DP as when I went in to exchange nieces too big t-shirt - noticed a 50% sale at Monsoon and Accesorize.

Teehee !! Am mortally offended( )

Sparkly I DID!!!! Promise! TBH is was my mum's fault () DH had told me it was in a drawer, so I looked in the drawers, nothing, then my mum said had I tried looking "through there in the cupboard" I said no, she said look, and it was on a stool opposite the cupboard. SO not my fault! <<sticks out tongue!>>

Don't know if you have an automatic watch, but take it off before your scan, just got mine back from beinf fixed for a 2nd time in quick succession, apparently it was 'magnatised' which apparently could have been caused by ultrasound scanners Let us know how you get on xx

Quick one as don't know how long I have and Lola's post is a long'un, so before I read it wanted to reply to Sparkly

lol at your niece - as you say if only it were so easy!! Well done to your BIL for having 'the talk' though.

The car seat does have a sunshade - took us 2 days to find it - I thought mine was faulty. It is really tucked in the back of the seat - near where their head goes between the plastic and the fabric - hope you find it.

Right now to Lola's post - I have kendall mint cake at the ready to ensure I get though it.

Lola Or should I say snoop!! You can't have come across it totally by accident . Personally, I'm rubbish with these things and would have peeked straight away. You know I meant disgusted!!! Less than an hour to go. We'll have to head off to avoud traffic. Eek.

Afternoon all

What was your niece disguised as Sparkly? Methinks I'm not the only one with preg mush for brains! I lost my gown at court yday, knew I'd brought it with me and remembered taking it out of my bag then poof! It vanished into thin air! Had to borrow someone else's in the end, but it materialised eventually. Do you think someone was taking advantage of my mush brain condition by pinching it and knowing no-one would believe my "but I had it 2 minutes ago" protestations? REALLY looking forward to your scan pics btw! We've borrowed a maxi cosi cabriofix from friends so it's a few years old, but it def has the hood you mentioned. Have you tried pulling the back bit of plastic behind where the hood should be away from the seat slightly (iwswim) as I think that's where it stores...? Otherwise give them a call. I've phoned them twice and they've been incredibly helpful, and even sent me new chest pad thingies for free!

Teehee glad you're feeling better for getting out, I can imagine being just like that. It's just so hard to get motivated sometimes isn't it? I have weeks like that, can imagine getting quite down if I end up feeling that way after LO is born... ML officially starts on 1st Aug but I'm not working much after tomorrow, in fact atm I think it's only one day a week for the next 2 weeks! May try to do a little more than that though to make sure I earn more than I'll get on Mat Allowance as I can't start that til after I finish work completely. Have lots of nice things lined up to do though, also a trip to the dentist to finish the root canal treatment she started a while ago... not so fun!

Bella how are your "mechanical issues" today? Hope you're feeling better too. Have you been practicing your hypnobirthing techniques like a good girl? From the nonexistant little pelvic floor work I've done I think I was right in my assumption that I wouldn't get around to hypnobirthing practice! Am very stupid though, know how important the pelvic floor work is, DO NOT want to wind up in a tena commercial, and yet still haven't been doing it! LOOOOOOSER!! Am sure you're much more disciplined than me!

Fruity glad C seems a bit better. Have you managed to get the thermometer to work yet? Typical timing! Do you have a fertility one from trying charting you could use on him instead? Though somehow that seems a bit wrong!

Quick shopping/birthday related post for you all, before Georgie comes along with her brand new bundle and such things are relegated to their proper place in the scheme of things! Was looking for my new laptop earlier as DH had borrowed it. He told me he'd left it in a drawer in the office, by which I assumed he meant the office attached to our house where the business is run from so that's where I went to look (turns out he meant our study upstairs in our house... ) ANYWAY... while I was innocently looking I stumbled across a large LK Bennett carrier bag!!! It was still sealed with a sticker from the store, I didn't look see what was in it (subtle difference ) but it seemed like a handbag dust bag rather than a shoe box. Now, it's my 30th in 5 weeks and DH knows there were a couple of bags in there I liked. So has he bought one for me? Thing is there's also a possibility that the bag has nothing to do with me, could be something brought in to do with the business, it was in the office after all... So now I have the age old dilemma - do I spend the next few weeks excited at the prospect of my new bag (a la Emma Thompson in Love Actually) only to find out on my birthday that it wasn't for me, or worse, he's got the wrong one (Not actually sure it's what I want for my 30th but that would appear to be beside the point... ), or do I go and have a sneaky peak thereby ruining the only element of sirprise I have left - ie, assuming it is for me, which one is it?!?!? It's a toughie!!

Sorry just looked at CriCri's 4D pics. OMG - you can see straight away that it's Elise. How mental. Yours were at 27 weeks though and mine will be 25. Hope I get something half as good as that!
Fruity's are amazing too.

Ahh less than two hours to go. I'm still looking forward to it but am slightly nervous too. Am half expecting them to see a fairy and not a willy.
Bella I've been told not to read 'We need to talk about Kevin' when pregnant. Haven't read any reviews on Pet Semetry but isn't it a horror?
Fruity Glad he seems ok. Just seen your FB status. Keep him on calpol. Typical that he's missing his last days at school.
Teehee Am hoping I'll find the guts to tell her the truth by that point. My niece (Y6) was given 'the talk' recently by my BIL. She was disguised and said, "Wow. You and Mum must have really wanted children if you did that TWICE!" (She has a brother too). If only she knew....and if only it was that simple.
Cricri I'd forgotten about your 4D. I'll hopefully put piccies up later.

Random question: I picked up my Maxi Cosi Cabrio Car Seat before from baby shop. Opened the box and it's in there. On my last one there was a hood that pulled forward on to the handle (like a leotard material). This doesn't seem to have one..... Does anyone elses?

Next few hours are going to drag.....

Wow I can't believe how brave you ladies were! ives me hope my natal hynotherapy techniques may stand a chance. One of the girls I did the course with had her baby last week said the hynotherapy worked! had not other pain relief other than water at home and a short (4 hour) labour! Makes me feel confident

Sparkly good luck with the scan! can't wit for piccies. P.S lol at the 'watering a seed' idea, long may the innocence continue.

Lola I think you have every chance of a birth like that; positive thinking girl! Mine will be tonight as I sleep

...right I'm off to read Pet Semetry (not the sort of book to read whilst pg but DH insisted I read it )

Morning,
Well C seems fine but woke with a croaky voice and feels warm - thermometer decided not to work He says he's fine but he wouldn't be getting the night sweats if he wasn't fighting something?
Just waiting for GP to call back. I tried NHS Direct but I was on hold for ages and thought they will just tell me to ring surgery so hung up.

Sparkly
DD was born 15 days after EDD
Induced birth - Prostin pessary, waters broken, syntocyn but natural delivery after lots of pushing out back on back baby.
Pain relief - Gas and air. Bullied into having an epidural placed at about 8cms because consultant thought her bum was engaged and I'd need a section. They didn't top it up though or I'd have been pushing for 5 days.

Fruity
DS1 - 12 days late - induced 18 hour labour, ventouse, forceps, emergency c-section
Gas and Air (what a load of old sh*t)
Epidural (fantastic relief fom a terrible back labour but couldn't push properly so wouldn't advise unless you think it is absolutely the last straw)
DS2 - elective c-section so doesn't count.
Spinal tap block.
Probably would have been very late like C (if you remember, I added two weeks to my due date before I knew about c-section)

Teehee
2 days over due date, although waters broke on due date and unassisted delivery. No stitches. Pain relief - TENS (Teehee smiles smugly whilst ironing her SAS soldier uniform! wink)

Cricri
3 days after EDD (although had hindwater leak the day after EDD following a sweep)
8 hour labour, 4 hours pushing (2 at home, 2 in hospital), syntocyn, episiotomy, ventouse delivery

Hi Cricri just copying and pasting the list again as we x-posts (which I always find spooky)

Sparkly
DD was born 15 days after EDD
Induced birth - Prostin pessary, waters broken, syntocyn but natural delivery after lots of pushing out back on back baby.
Pain relief - Gas and air. Bullied into having an epidural placed at about 8cms because consultant thought her bum was engaged and I'd need a section. They didn't top it up though or I'd have been pushing for 5 days.

Fruity
DS1 - 12 days late - induced 18 hour labour, ventouse, forceps, emergency c-section
DS2 - elective c-section so doesn't count. Probably would have been very late like C (if you remember, I added two weeks to my due date before I knew about c-section)

Teehee
2 days over due date, although waters broke on due date and unassisted delivery. No stitches. Pain relief - TENS (Teehee smiles smugly whilst ironing her SAS soldier uniform! )

Cricri
3 days after EDD (although had hindwater leak the day after EDD following a sweep)
8 hour labour, 4 hours pushing (2 at home, 2 in hospital), syntocyn, episiotomy, ventouse delivery.
Pain relief: Not allowed to use birthing pool at home in the end due to hindwater leak so I used my TENS machine and homeopathic remedies. I was so relieved to have gas and air in hospital they couldn't prise the mask away from me! Too late for anything else.

Hurrah Sparkly is looking forward to a scan - we have progress!

Love your explanation to DD - that is so sweet. Wouldn't it be lovely if she trotted that story out when she does sex ed in Yr 6.

Fruity Poor C, hopefully it isn't serious but definitely phone NHS direct. Such a shame that he's missing his trip.

Cricri 4 hours of pushing - you tropper, I hated hated the pushing stage and I only had to do a couple of hours of it. Poor you! Lovely photos of your trip.

Lola Nice to see you, I was wondering where you were. How many days of work do you have lined up? When does the big snooze (mat leave) officially start?

I am feeling cheerier as got off my arse and did stuff yesterday. Took DS swimming for the first time and he was very brave. I was amazed at how unfazed he was. We are meeting friends for a walk today so hoping weather holds.

Sparkly
DD was born 15 days after EDD
Induced birth - Prostin pessary, waters broken, syntocyn but natural delivery after lots of pushing out back on back baby.
Pain relief - Gas and air. Bullied into having an epidural placed at about 8cms because consultant thought her bum was engaged and I'd need a section. They didn't top it up though or I'd have been pushing for 5 days.

Fruity
DS1 - 12 days late - induced 18 hour labour, ventouse, forceps, emergency c-section
DS2 - elective c-section so doesn't count. Probably would have been very late like C (if you remember, I added two weeks to my due date before I knew about c-section)

Teehee
2 days over due date, although waters broke on due date and unassisted delivery. No stitches. Pain relief - TENS (Teehee smiles smugly whilst ironing her SAS soldier uniform! )

Cricri
3 days after EDD (although had hindwater leak the day after EDD following a sweep)
8 hour labour, 4 hours pushing (2 at home, 2 in hospital), syntocyn, episiotomy, ventouse delivery

Fruity Hope C is better this morning and that it's not swine flu One of my NCT friends and her LO have been ill and thought they had swine flu but it wasn't fortunately. Lots of nasty bugs around atm. Shame if C has to miss his farm trip though
Sparkly Can't wait to see your scan pics! Enjoy the experience - I loved my 4D scan!
Lola Hope today goes OK... Are you finishing work tomorrow?
Georgie Hope you're now in labour!
Speaking of which, the list!
Sparkly
DD was born 15 days after EDD
Induced birth - Prostin pessary, waters broken, syntocyn but natural delivery after lots of pushing out back on back baby.
Pain relief - Gas and air. Bullied into having an epidural placed at about 8cms because consultant thought her bum was engaged and I'd need a section. They didn't top it up though or I'd have been pushing for 5 days.

Fruity
DS1 - 12 days late - induced 18 hour labour, ventouse, forceps, emergency c-section
DS2 - elective c-section so doesn't count. Probably would have been very late like C (if you remember, I added two weeks to my due date before I knew about c-section)

Teehee
2 days over due date, although waters broke on due date and unassisted delivery. No stitches.

Cricri
3 days after EDD (although had hindwater leak the day after EDD following a sweep)
8 hour labour, 4 hours pushing (2 at home, 2 in hospital), syntocyn, episiotomy, ventouse delivery.
Pain relief: Not allowed to use birthing pool at home in the end due to hindwater leak so I used my TENS machine and homeopathic remedies. I was so relieved to have gas and air in hospital they couldn't prise the mask away from me! Too late for anything else.

Morning all,
We're off to a play place this am and to visit my parents this pm. Better get cracking really as we're both still sit in PJs. Oops. Only 9.5 hours til scan. . Am actually looking forward to a scan for the first time.
Lola There's always a chance . Good luck today. Are you taking pg vits?
Fruity Poor C. Have you phoned NHS direct as they're offering Tamiflu to the under 5s (or so I've read). IMO much better to get it now before it mutates.
Bella I'm just relieved DD hasn't starting asking how he got in there. At the moment she knows that mummy has seeds in her tummy and daddy watered one of them to turn it into a baby. Hope it's stays that way for a long time.
Georgie It's going to happen today if it hasn't already. xxxxx

Really better be off.

Sparkly
DD was born 15 days after EDD
Induced birth - Prostin pessary, waters broken, syntocyn but natural delivery after lots of pushing out back on back baby.
Pain relief - Gas and air. Bullied into having an epidural placed at about 8cms because consultant thought her bum was engaged and I'd need a section. They didn't top it up though or I'd have been pushing for 5 days.

Fruity
DS1 - 12 days late - induced 18 hour labour, ventouse, forceps, emergency c-section
DS2 - elective c-section so doesn't count. Probably would have been very late like C (if you remember, I added two weeks to my due date before I knew about c-section)

Teehee
2 days over due date, although waters broke on due date and unassisted delivery. No stitches.

Cricri
3 days after EDD (although had hindwater leak the day after EDD following a sweep)
8 hour labour, 4 hours pushing (2 at home, 2 in hospital), syntocyn, episiotomy, ventouse delivery.

Sparkly
DD was born 15 days after EDD
Induced birth - Prostin pessary, waters broken, syntocyn but natural delivery.

Fruity
DS1 - 12 days late - induced 18 hour labour, ventouse, forceps, emergency c-section
DS2 - elective c-section so doesn't count. Probably would have been very late like C (if you remember, I added two weeks to my due date before I knew about c-section)

Teehee
2 days over due date, although waters broke on due date and unassisted delivery. No stitches.

Cricri
3 days after EDD (although had hindwater leak the day after EDD following a sweep)
8 hour labour, 4 hours pushing (2 at home, 2 in hospital), syntocyn, episiotomy, ventouse delivery.

Lola EDD - sneezed and out she popped. No stitches, grazing, tearing or pain relief needed. Pelvic floor still utterly in tact.

What do you reckon my chances are?!?!

Can I be really cheeky and ask people to add what pain relief they had - if it's going to be a competative list we may as well make it really competative!

Sorry not been posting, been ridiculously tired, def going to ask cons about iron levels on monday. Have to go to work in a min but should be back for a proper post later, just wanted to say...

CONGRATULATIONS!!! to Scully!!!! Fantastic news chick. And all the best people have 4 hour labours (or that's what my mum says anyway ) Looking forward to seeing you back here when you have the energy!

Georgie really hope the sweep kicked things off for you my love. From what I remember you telling me of your labours with the DDs 4 hours would be something of a marathon for you, so here's hoping DD3 is now here safe and sound and enjoying a cuddle with her lovely mummy And if she isn't, she will be soon, I can feel it in my waters

Sparkly good luck today!! Can't wait to see the pics! So exciting!!

Buddha - well ladies, who do we have who might have wanted to name change recently after they were hounded stalked spotted on here by someone who new them?

Fruity hope C's feeling better today? So glad you got your pooter back!

Should be back later. Client going to prison today I think. There will be tears before bedtime. I just hope they're not mine!!

Fruity how's C this morning? poor thing missing his trip! Mind you he did think it was to Dean City Farm so maybe you could just take him there at the weekend if he's better? xx

CriCri thanks for joining the list! I'm really finding this all very interesting! Seems like the last stages of your labour were awkward to say the least

Bugger, C's not well. I've decided to keep him at home tomorrow. He's got a farm trip which he's been counting the sleeps for - he'll be so devastated
He's had a sore throat on and off since Monday. High temp on Mon. fine during most of the day but by early eve he's run down and teary. Just checked on him and he's pouring in sweat.
My friend has just told me her little boy has suspected Swine Flu and we were with them on Sunday.
Charlie's strong enough. I Just hope Jack doesn't catch it

Evening lovely ladies
A quick post from me as I just can't resist lists, especially competitive ones Lol at Sparklys DS falling out though.

Sparkly
DD was born 15 days after EDD
Induced birth - Prostin pessary, waters broken, syntocyn but natural delivery.

Fruity
DS1 - 12 days late - induced 18 hour labour, ventouse, forceps, emergency c-section
DS2 - elective c-section so doesn't count. Probably would have been very late like C (if you remember, I added two weeks to my due date before I knew about c-section)

Teehee
2 days over due date, although waters broke on due date and unassisted delivery. No stitches.

Cricri
3 days after EDD (although had hindwater leak the day after EDD following a sweep)
8 hour labour, 4 hours pushing (2 at home, 2 in hospital), syntocyn, episiotomy, ventouse delivery.

Bella Enjoy your time before LO arrives - you won't ever get this time back again. I know you're anxious to meet her, but try to rest as much as you can.
Georgie Not long now - I was 3-4cm dilated after a sweep and labour started that evening. Hope it's the same for you.
Scully Hope LO's feeding is continuing to improve. Sounds as though you're getting great support from the hospital though. Any names yet??
Hello to everyone else!

fruity you're a bit like a drug pusher lol

teehee yours was better than mine:

Sparkly
DD was born 15 days after EDD
Induced birth - Prostin pessary, waters broken, syntocyn but natural delivery.

Fruity
DS1 - 12 days late - induced 18 hour labour, ventouse, forceps, emergency c-section
DS2 - elective c-section so doesn't count. Probably would have been very late like C (if you remember, I added two weeks to my due date before I knew about c-section)

Teehee
2 days over due date, although waters broke on due date and unassisted delivery. No stitches.

loving the competitive birthing list!

btw for anyone who wants a Lin and Leo but doesn't have a BM voucher

Oh crap, they're out of stock

Sparkly
DD was born 15 days after EDD
Induced birth - Prostin pessary, waters broken, syntocyn but natural delivery.

Fruity
DS1 - 12 days late - induced 18 hour labour, ventouse, forceps, emergency c-section
DS2 - elective c-section so doesn't count. Probably would have been very late like C

Teehee
2 days over due date, although waters broke on due date and unassisted delivery

This is great guys! cheers

sparkly my niece asked me the baby question and I told her I didn't know as i had not had one yet! My sis told her that you 'grow' a special hole when you're older! aaaw they grow up so fast eh?

It's def a sign of madness that I'm still laughing at my post. Right - off the the cinema I go. Byeeeee

A bit like stubbing your toe with DS then Sparkly

Ooh fruity - you're so organised!

Sparkly
DD was born 15 days after EDD
Induced birth - Prostin pessary, waters broken, syntocyn but natural delivery.

Fruity
DS1 - 12 days late - induced 18 hour labour, ventouse, forceps, emergency c-section
DS2 - elective c-section so doesn't count. Probably would have been very late like C (if you remember, I added two weeks to my due date before I knew about c-section)

Teehee
2 days over due date, although waters broke on due date and unassisted delivery. No stitches.

The competitive birthing list

Sparkly
DD was born 15 days after EDD
Induced 18.5 hour labour - Prostin pessary, waters broken, syntocin but back on back natural delivery after 2 hours of pushing. 8lb 60z.

DS - two weeks early. I didn't even have any contractions. He just fell out when I was asleep.

Fruity
DS1 - 12 days late - induced 18 hour labour, ventouse, forceps, emergency c-section
DS2 - elective c-section so doesn't count. Probably would have been very late like C (if you remember, I added two weeks to my due date before I knew about c-section)

Good luck Georgie this could be it - the nightmare could be over. Try and keep your chin up.

at lady garden and fairy, tends to be b-jingo or v jay jay in our house!

Bella 2 days over due date, although waters broke on due date and unassisted delivery. My advice is stop trying to bring it on and put your feet up. Indulge woman!

Sparkly
DD was born 15 days after EDD
Induced birth - Prostin pessary, waters broken, syntocyn but natural delivery.

Fruity
DS1 - 12 days late - induced 18 hour labour, ventouse, forceps, emergency c-section
DS2 - elective c-section so doesn't count. Probably would have been very late like C (if you remember, I added two weeks to my due date before I knew about c-section)

There you go, a nice list started so you can compare x

Good luck Georgie! text me when things kick off xx

Bella I'll start shall I? Even though you know......
C - 12 days late - induced 18 hour labour, ventouse, forceps, emergency c-section
J - elective c-section so doesn't count. Probably would have been very late like C (if you remember, I added two weeks to my due date before I knew about c-section)

DD calls it her 'fairy'. She asked me a few days a go - Mum, do babies come from tummies or fairies? Doesn't sound quiet so rude then....

DD was born 15 days after EDD
Induced birth - Prostin pessary, waters broken, syntocyn but natural delivery.

Georgie I have a good feeling for you hun! it's going to be very soon

Sparkly at 'lady garden' comment how many different ways can there be for describing one's froo froo lol I could keep this up.

I wonder if (when you have the time) you lovely ladies would mind answering the following questions?:

1. How many days before/after EDD were your lo's born?

2. What type of birth did you have (c section etc)

Thank you xx

Georgie I hope the contractions have started in the last hour. I really feel for you. I know lots of people who have had sweeps and that's been all they've needed. Chin up. It'll soon be over xxxx
Bella She'll come when she's ready . Never heard of EPO capsules but I'm not sure I'd stick anything in my lady garden.

Hey guys. Still here. Had the sweep this morning. Been having 'contractions' (whether real or BH I don't know any more) since then. But not really ramping up. Am 3-4cm dilated. MW seems to think I'll go this evening or tomorrow. Don't have much faith any more. Booked in on Monday to get my waters broken if nothing happened by then. Am so totally hacked off. So ONLY another 4 days to go......

Am incredibly pleased for you Scully that you have a little boy to round off your family. Hope he's feeding OK now. The photo's are lovely and your DH looks like a v proud papa.

Bella Hope the aches and pains are subsiding.

Sparkly Will look out for scan photo's. Will be amazing to see your LO in his 4D finery!

Fruity Glad you're back with us and pooter is fixed.

Hi to everyone else. Sorry, crap post. Am thinking of you. xxxxx

Sparkly Can't wait to see those scan photos! doc said there was no sign of infection and thinks it's 'mechanical' instead?? it's less painful today; hence popping over to fruity's this afternoon.

Fruity no Buddha is not me...I haven't been able to work it out yet

Today I decided to try and get baby out, mainly through boredom; I alternated use of the breast pump for an hour! rubbed a load of Clary Sage in and then drank a bucket of raberryleaf tea, bounced on ball for 20 min, oh and took an EPO capsule...internet says insert it in my 'woo hoo' but not sure? Would/did any of you?....anyway no suprises really but no baby, or contactions think I'll be less impatient when DH finishes work on fri; I have too much time on my hands!

Fruity Your not missing out on much by not going to the graduation. You basically sit in a hall and clap when hundreds of students shake hands and get their certificates. It takes a looonnnngggg time. Were you 26 weeks at scan with J? I'll be almost 25 but it's the only time they can fit me in. I did want it later but ah well .

Oooh crossed posts Sparkly, 3D scan!!!! I can't wait to see the photos!
Alright Jack, I'm coming!!!.................

God I'm so hopeless. It hasn't actually taken me 24 hours to catch up. I got distracted then was really busy for most of yesterday.

I'll try again shall I...

1st of all HUGE congratulations to the new mummy (for the 3rd time) Miss Scully!!!! And only a four hour labour What a little corker! He's gorgeous! How surprised were you to have a boy? I know I was convinced you would have a girl. What a perfect family you have there. Gives me hope that my next one will be a girl after two boys
Any name yet? How's he coping with the world?
How are you coping with a boy? Is it weird?
Wow your milk is in already? I thought it took 3-5 days? Excellent, get it down him!

Thank you to everyone for the councelling support. It is something we have to do but life seems to get in the way until the next row I'll take note of those links

bella (or is it Buddha now?) I've got the emails you sent me, thank you
Georgie Wishing you all the luck for a very imminent birth! I gather you would quite like her out now?
Lola I wouldn't pay any attention to the tape measuring malarky. I've no idea why they do it. So inaccurate. Even scans are unreliable. At the stage you are now, you would have known if baby is particularly small by now. Maybe you'll just have a dinky wee girl - better than a great chunk of a girl (imo) - easier to get out too
Piper sounds like those babies are doing well!
Ei I'm glad everything seems well. Why would you need to go privately? You can get help from NHS? I know you can get Clomid on NHS.
I had a ferning microscope. But with my weirdo hormones, it didn't really work. Seemed to only ever get partial ferning
Teehee That place looks like fun. I like the little ladybird on the website. It follows the cursor around.
How was it? Did Noah enjoy it?
Jaamy I can't believe they wont send you for investigations. Surely the MC's is a good reason to be sent for investigations? It doesn't make sense
Pop in whenever you like
Sparkly Look at you Miss W, The Graduate! The photos are fantastic! Did you have fun? I've never been to a graduation before so no idea what happens. It's my sister's graduation soon but I can't go as it's on a week day [stupid) and it's in Loughborough! Shame really as only my Mum can make it. My sister's a bit cross about that (forever the drama student!)

Ahh, Jack crying again, thought he'd had enough milk, he's probably fed up of being ignored better go!......

Bella How did the docs go?

You're all quiet. I've just taken DD to nursery but I'm looking after her friend this morning. He's watching tv at the moment . Don't know where to take him in this rain.
I've got my 4D scan tomorrow.

thanks sparkly I've got a sample ready for doc and have just been sleeping on sofa with a hot water bottle. No other symptoms to suggest it is or has been a UTI...go figure eh, thank you so much for getting back to me though xx

Bella If it was lower back pain then it might be a sign of impending labour but higher up...hmm. Do you have any pain when passing urine or any other water infection problems? Take some pain killers and have a lie down. Don't stress too much about it. LO is moving around and infections in third trimester (if it is an infection) only cause concern about pre-term labour. You're LO wouldn't be considered prem if born now so try not to worry. Might be worth taking urine sample to GP. Good luck.

Help I have pain in the left side of my back kinda kidney position I have had a bath, rested, walked, drank litres of water but nothing is shifting it, it's not unbearable but comes in waves and only on left side...do I have a kidney infection? I have apt with GP at 4:40 but was hopeing it would ease up by then. It's not helped by the fact that lo is shifting around something chronic and butting me in the cervix and causing pain in my right hip so that I can't stand ....sorry to whinge but I can't get hold of DH (as always) and just feel shit!

Oh Scully your photos are lovely. DD1 really seems to love her role as the oldest. Thank goodness the milk is coming in, I wouldn't fancy expressing colustum. 4 hours is pretty quick, was it scarily quick.

No, Sparkly N doesn't seem any easier today, or is it just me, being a bit tired and lazy. Can't seem to get myself motivated to do anything this week, not just boring house stuff but stuff with N too. We are starting yoga this afternoon so hopefully that will give me a much needed boot up the bottom.

Will catch up properly later - if I can motivate myself to

scully i'll or look for you too x

Scully I've updated the list with lbs and oz. Are you any closer to a name? Boys names are so difficult. Great news about milk coming in and DS feeding. Fingers crossed that he continues like that. It's lovely that the girls are enjoying being big sisters. I don't know how to do friend requests but Bella's initials are KT and I think her picture is of her and her DP in their wedding day. HTH.

Jaamy TTC#3 (MC Mar 08 and Sept 08)
HappyAndEiKnowIt CD 42 cycle 21 (CP/MC april, june08 & april 09)

Infanticipating
HeyThereGeorgieGirl 40 weeks pg (BFP 3rd Nov) EDD 10 July
BellaHarry 38 weeks pg EDD 29th July
Lola 34 weeks pg EDD 26th August
Piper 24 weeks pg TWINS!! EDD 16 - 23 October
Sparkly 24 weeks pg EDD 30th October
Molliemooma 18 weeks pg (BFP 6th Apr) EDD 16 December

Graduates
Emmsy GIRL! Amy Louise born 7th October 08 5lbs 12oz
CriCri GIRL! Elise Vivienne at 0630am 4th November 08, 7lbs 15oz
Mibbes BOY! Evan, born 3rd December 08, 6lbs 5oz
Fruity BOY! Jack, born 18th March 09, 8lbs 5oz
Teeheelaydee BOY! Noah Robert, born 13th April 09, 6lbs 12oz
Scully BOY! Born 11th July 09, 7lb 13oz

Right I've cleaned downstairs and am now bored again so will go and buy some mushies and make a spag bol for dinner. YAWN

I think I've found Teehee on FB but not Bella, could someone send me a recommendation for a friend or whatever it's called

3.56kg is 7lb 13oz if anyone wasn't sure, I had to ask the mw, don't understand baby weight in metric
Milk is coming in now, so with the electric pump managed 30ml one side and 40ml the other. ds behaved himself at his last feed and had my 30ml and 30ml of formula so we haven't had to take him back to hospital, which was an option. His next feed is in hour and we need to ring the hospital after that to tell them what he's had, and go from there.
Did you get your sweep Georgie? Try to enjoy your last few days of being pregnant, I'm a bit sad that I won't ever be pregnant again, not said that I won't ever give birth again though, that's for sure
Sparkly, dd2 is struggling a little, she has never been the best at listening to instructions, and that certainly hasn't been prevalent in the last few days and we've had a few tanties, but we're trying to stay patient with her as it must be a big adjustment. She is fascinated with him though, so there's no jealousy so far directed at him, which is good. dd1 loves him to bits and can't do enough to help, but that is more her nature as well. And at 7 she is old enough to help with some things.
I'll go onto FB and track you down Bella and Teehee I've put some new photos on there today, have also added 3 onto my profile here as well.
Great news from the consultant Ei I had just about given up with the whole conception malarky and ds was conceived that month, I think it helps sometimes just to reach that point when you say enough, and then it happens.
Hi to everyone else

Just looking at the list. Little J has been the biggest baby so far. We've got two girls and four boys so far and with Georgie, Lola and Bella having girls and me having a boy we'll be at 5 all. Wonder how Piper's twins and Mollie's LO will tip the balance .

Jaamy TTC#3 (MC Mar 08 and Sept 08)
HappyAndEiKnowIt CD 42 cycle 21 (CP/MC april, june08 & april 09)

Infanticipating
HeyThereGeorgieGirl 40 weeks pg (BFP 3rd Nov) EDD 10 July
BellaHarry 38 weeks pg EDD 29th July
Lola 34 weeks pg EDD 26th August
Piper 24 weeks pg TWINS!! EDD 16 - 23 October
Sparkly 24 weeks pg EDD 30th October
Molliemooma 18 weeks pg (BFP 6th Apr) EDD 16 December

Graduates
Emmsy GIRL! Amy Louise born 7th October 08 5lbs 12oz
CriCri GIRL! Elise Vivienne at 0630am 4th November 08, 7lbs 15oz
Mibbes BOY! Evan, born 3rd December 08, 6lbs 5oz
Fruity BOY! Jack, born 18th March 09, 8lbs 5oz
Teeheelaydee BOY! Noah Robert, born 13th April 09, 6lbs 12oz
Scully BOY! Born 11th July 09, 3.56kgs

Scully Lovely to have you back. Have you managed to express anymore with the pump? Hope the feeding settles soon. Love the new pics of FB of the LO with the girls. They must be thrilled. How is M adjusting? She's about the same age as L I think. Not sure how L will react.
Georgie Chin up chick and keep posting. What is your EDD? Are you overdue now? Maybe we should start a sweepstake. That's bound to get things moving.
Buddha Have you spoke to manager about moving away from the germs? When is your scan now? Can't be too lmuch longer.
Teehee Is N any better today? Could it be teeth time?
Fruity Lovely to have you back.

Am going off to find a list. Have too much time on my hands and have already done the washing and ironing. Maybe the floors need another hoover and wash . I just should enjoy the peace this week as DD and DP finish up for hols on Fri - ARGHHHH!!

I'm back!!!!!!!!
Pooter back and working again

Now to catch up with everyone and most importantly, *Scully's" fantastic news!.....................

Lovely to hear from you Scully, as ever sounds like you are taking it all in your stride and doing great. Hope the feeding improves, sure it will when he wakes a bit. Any names yet? So lovely that you have a little boy as well as your 2 girls or are you wondering what on earth you do with a boy!?

You can find me on FB on the usual suspects lists under Davidson. I've tried to work out you from their lists but have yet to manage it!

Georgie any luck with the stretch and sweep? Thinking of you, and keeping m
Legs firmly shut! X

Scully how lovely to have your little bundle home with you. Sounds like you are being well looked after by the mw etc that must be reassuring. I'd love to see the fb pics! Find me on fruity georgie, lola, teehee or sparkly's friends list (I think) my surname is Turner

Back again. ds just managed to have about 35ml at that feed, still not great. Mw from home visit just called, they want me to ring again to tell them how he goes with the next feed, so at least they are onto it and we're feeling looked after and not forgotten. Just going to pop out now to hire a breast pump, they want me to keep expressing, but to try for more than the 10ml I'm getting myself.
Anyway, he's so lovely, and this is a pain, but not too stressful, I'm glad it's happening with no.3 not no.1, or else it would be more hectic.
Sorry for the post all about me, will catch up with all your news soon, once this small boy starts eating properly
Hope things happen for you soon Georgie

Hi ladies Logged on here last night but didn't get any further. Our lovely boy was born on Sat 11 July at 2.40pm after a 4hr labour I had 2 nights in hospital, could have had a third but decided to come home last night. Small tear but no stitches & managed with gas/air again, & my biggest achievement, didn't hardly swear (like I did with dd2 )
Will put some pics on here, also some on FB, who don't I have as a friend?
He hasn't fed well from birth (only had a decent feed 7hrs after delivery, & yest dr said he was looking jaundiced. Jaundice is making him tired so he would sleep thru feeds if allowed to, & when he is woken, he won't feed properly. So I'm currently expressing 10-15mls of colustrum each feed & cup feeding him & following up with formula. He's meant to have 50ml of formula each feed, he's managed that once, other times were 10-15mls. Had a home visit from mw today & hospital will ring me this evening after he has had 2 more feeds to see how he's going. dh home will continue later

Congratualations Scully Can't wait to hear all the details and how your little angels have taken to the new arrival.

Georgie We may be the only thing that keeps you sane - so moan away. There must be an absolute end date in sight by now so just keep that in mind.

Buddha Love the name. Maybe you should start wearing a MJ style mask. Do you really think it's swine flu or is every fool with a cold imagining the worst.

Must go - N is calling again! He's been a grizzler today and I'm getting weary of it. Also, just realised that picked up the wrong size t-shirt for my nieces b/day so trying to decide whether to battle the shops again today.

Georgie Please come and moan on here hun, its no good bottling it up, share the load

We've just had a woman come into the office whilst on anti-biotics for swine flu!!! silly cow said she wasn't allowed in her doctors but she's happy enough to come in here, honestly do people not have brains!!!!! We've had quite a few people in who aren't feeling well, and outbreaks at local schools etc. One man this afternoon coughed all over me, croaking he had a sore throat and temperature and might have swine flu. I turned round and told him I didn't want to see him and rebooked his appt. I have to say I'm getting quite concerned about it all now. I'm sat with my antibacterial gel at the ready

Hey guys. Nothing doing here. Just waiting for midwife to call to see whether they can squeeze me in for a sweep today or whether I have to wait til Wed .

I'll post if when anything happens.

I'm driving myself mad and am certianly not fit for human consumption so will bugger off til I've got some good news to share. xxx

Morning all,
Weekend has flown by once again and not had a chance to post.
Scully CONGRATULATIONS!!! I'm so thrilled for you. Can't wait to find out what name you've chosen. Must be difficult to think of a boys name after naming two girls . Hope you're finding lots of time to sit down.
Georgie It'll soon be you my love. Anything start up over night? It has to be this week! Are you having a sweep today?
Piper How are you feeling? Not long until your next scan.
Ei Woohoo for positive ferning. I remember Fruity using one of those. Have you thought anymore about the clomid?
Teehee Have you managed to see Scully's profile yet? If not I'll fill you in.
Lola You shouldn't be painting missy. Sit down and enjoy yourself watching crappy day time tv and eating biscuits. . New laptop here yet? Those fundal measurements make me .. Do not panic. Baby has been scanned by a consultant who knows much more than a tape measure and you're not getting away with a weeny one .
Buddha [waves]. Hope you're ok x
Jaamy Lovely to 'see' you here. Thanks for popping in. Really hope to see you with a BFP soon love. It won't be long for you and ei now. I can feel it in my Welsh water.

In other news, graduation went well. Was very long and I was very nervouc but I'm glad it's over. Photos on FB if you haven't seen them already (and are interested). Went for a fab meal afterwards with DP, DD and my fab friend. Am exhausted today after a few late nights and we're off swimming. Catch you all later xxx

Congatulations scully!!! Can't wait to hear all about it! X

Scully Congratulations! Wonderful news and lovely photos on FB
Has somebody texted Fruity the news? She must be going spare without her laptop!
Jaamy Lovely to see you - don't worry about not keeping up, I frequently go AWOL but try to catch up when I can. Just pop in when you get a chance
Buddha Love the name change
Georgie Hope Tedwood makes her appearance soon!

Scully Huge congrats Fantastic news !
Georgie fingers crossed for you that tedwood makes an appearance soon
Jammy great to "see" you
Ei delighted to hear nice positive news from your consultant appointment. fingers crossed for a nice sticky bfp for you soon xxx
Sparkly hope your graduation went well

hope everyone else is well xxx

teehee i will recommend you as a friend for her so you can see pics i wont say the flavour either but im betting it was a big surprise
scully MASSIVE CONGRATS!! brilliant news and lovely photos
jaamy good to 'see' you me and DH have imposed a similar time scale on actively TTC but ours is this time next year so we are going to give it a good go for a while longer did you get the ferning microscope?? i had a positive on mine yesterday and a partial today so i think i am due to ov the next few days
hello to everone else
xx ei xx

Argh - don't have Scully on my friends list, so can't see new one!!!!

Someone help! Are you allowed to spill the beans on the flavour do you think?

georgie oh hun, sorry you're feeling so fed up, sending you labour vibes right now! X
ei glad things are looking positive! It will happen you're right! [Smile]

Wotcha Buddha

Wooooo hooooo Scully!! CONGRATULATIONS!!!! What fantastic news to get up to! Fantastic!

Georgie But YOU'RE DEFINITELY NEXT!!! [No queue jumping Bella, I don't think G's bp will stand it!] *Georgie I seem to remember your dates were altered right at the beginning? What was your original EDD? Any chance that could have been right after all? Or was it ages later and I'm saying the wrong thing? Ignore me if I am, I know nothing!!

Big love to everyone else, have to go and paint the shower room... joy... but will catch up later. New laptop FINALLY arriving tomorrow! Woooo hoooo!

Georgie It WILL be your turn next chick, tedwood just isn't ready yet, it's too comfy

As you can see I've name changed, I'm sure you can all figure out why might not make a difference but hey ho!

Still here . Nuff said.....

Scully Oh wow. What a cutie. . What a lovely suprise. Hope everything went smoothly. Lots and lots of love from all of us. xxxxxxx

Get on facebook there are pictures from Scully of the new one!!!!
Jaamy Lovely to see you again, of course you are welcome to post, sporadically or not! Hope all is well with you

Hello, lovely lovely ladies!

Just a quick pop in to apologise for my absence...I don't get much chance to get on MN any more any you are all very chatty - this thread moves too quickly for me.

Anyhow...Scully - is it that time already? Hope all goes ok and new antipodean bundle arrives safely.

Ei - got a bit worried 'cos I lost you for a while. Loving your positivity. It's got to happen for you soon. x

Sending you all great big happy thoughts, especially Mollie and Sparkly

I'm still plodding along. Am currently CD 18 cycle 25. GP says he won't refer me for any investigations since I am not infertile due to 2 MCs in the last year and 2DDs already. DH and I have given ourselves a deadline of the end of this year. Seems really callous but can't keep putting ourselves through this terrible waiting. Seems like everything is on hold...

Anyway, if you don't mind my sporadic contributions, I'd really like to stay on the thread, at least until Ei gets her BFP.

Go Scully Hope everything is going well!
Ei So pleased the appt went well and that the results were all normal. Fingers crossed for a BFP for you very soon!
Teehee Hope you had a lovely day at the festival and that the rain held off for you all. Agree with Georgie about the cleaner, although I'm still looking for one myself atm so not exactly practising what I preach!
Georgie Hope things start for you very soon, the waiting is so frustrating. I only went over my EDD with Elise by a couple of days but it felt like forever!
Hope everybody is having a lovely weekend

scully wow weeeeeee!!! Go girl!! Best of luck hope it all goes smoothly x x x

Scully Goooooooooo onnnnnnnnnn girl . Get that baby out. Oh, and send some labour vibes my way please.

TeeHee One word for you love, cleaner. Get one! Have a lovely day. Hope sun shines for you.

Ei Fab news about the appt. Hope this is the start of great things for you and DH.

On the reserve list for a sweep on Monday if they can fit me in. If not, then got def appt on Wed for a sweep. Had a good cry this morning after reading Scully's message (sorry Scully, no disrespect, just frustrated). Off to wash some kitchen floors and go for a 6 mile hike......

Good Luck Scully Hope it's not too long and painful. Can't wait to hear your news.

Ei So glad your appointment went well and that you are feeling more positive about your chances. Just keep that in mind and keep going!

Oh - someone give me a kick up the arse. I have ironing coming out of my ears and the house is a tip and I've now got to go and do my most hated chore - expressing milk. Although I know I don't have to but it gives me a break at some point during the day or night. So much for 'me' time, although thanks for the idea Georgie I will be booking a massage or a manicure tout suite!

We are going here today. My brother is very involved in organising it, it's all very village fete with a twist and my nieces love it. Hoping it stays fine.

Scully Good luck
EI Glad to hear you had such a good appointment, you sound realy bright and positive, let's hope you get your shiny BFP very very soon

Huge wave to everyone else, off to do the housework now

hi ladies
just a quickie from me so i havent read through yet but i will do tomorrow
scully good luck
hope all is well with everyone
an update from me... my appointment went very well consultant said all results came back as very good (with the exception of DH's volume but it was only slightly lower than normal) so no physical/medical reason for our lack of BFP but he has every faith that with better timing and luck we will get preg by ourselves he has said we can still go the assistance route and has put us on the private books with an open invite in case we happen to be able to afford to pay for it (not likely) but the prices seem more reasonable now as they have been reviewed its now £200 for clomafine instead of £400 which is our choice if we decide to accept any help
anywho im happy and i feel like a huge weight has been lifted i am getting back to my diet and i WILL have my baby!!
xx ei xx

OOh how exciting - all the best scully, can't wait to hear the news

It's 5.40am here, thought you ladies would like to know that my waters broke at 5am this morning Still are actually on and off so I think it's everything going, not just some of it. Noticed a little bit of mucus as well on a pad, clear though, nothing bloody. Still just feel crampy, nothing else has kicked in as yet. Will ring the hospital in a bit and see what they say. Am so glad that it happened at a decent hour for us to get the girls organised and for them to spend the day with my dad and stepmother, that's my biggest relief I think

Lola don't worry about measurments mine are all over the place as I've mentioned on here before, I find some mw are more accurate than others, some don't even stretch the tape out! Go with what the scan said. Oh and great idea about the whitch hazel! Great idea

Hello ladies, have felt quite shite all day, thx to dd2's cold that she lovingly gave to me Panadol are helping to take the edge off it at least. Still low cramping and it's stronger in the last 24hrs, but very irregular and nothing that can be timed. As long as it doesn't spring something on me in a big hurry, I don't mind if it carries on into next week. dh has a sweepstake in his dept at work, up to $50 at the moment, for day of birth and sex. He has money on next Thurs , I said I'd see what I can do
He took a half day off work today, which was great, meant I could have a rest and there was someone here to watch the dd's and referee dd2 is feeling better, still not 100% but improving. dd1 has realised she isn't getting attention for her hypochondria so has stopped, you're right Georgie, could be in reaction to me, hadn't thought of that. dh took them grocery shopping this afternoon and has cooked a curry for tomorrow night, yummy & he took the washing off the line and washed up after cooking, I must look sick
Hope the laptop is fixed soon Fruity They do sound like good weights Piper, did anyone give you any feedback after the scan? How was the graduation Sparkly? What an achievement
Your houseguests sound like they are getting you into the routine Lola Enjoy the hairdresser, which chair did you choose?

Morning. Thanks for all your lovely wishes. I'm afraid that the reflexology, whilst lovely, hasn't done anything apart from give me a cracking lower back ache . Anyway, reflexologist thinks that it'll be Sat or Sun . We'll see.

Lola We had the M&P chair for Libby and she LOVED it. It's still in one peice, so Tedwood will be using it. Please try not to worry about the measurements of LO. One of my friends had her baby 7 weeks early. She was tiny and is now thriving. Remember, scan results can be very misleading. It will be OK honey bunch. Have a great time at the hairdressers. V jealous.

Piper Wow, half way through already? Blimey. Good news on the scan results. Agree with Mibbes that it looks v promising. You're doing something right as the LO's are obviously v happy and content in there.

Sparkly Ironing. Bluergh. Would rather clean out my fridge! Have a very lovely time today at your graduation. I really hope everyone (and you) is extremely proud of what you've done. Ropund of applause and big WOOOOO HOOOOO from me. Go girl. And of course you won't trip over your gown .

Scully How's DD2? Hope she's on the mend? Any news from you? I'm absolutely sure that you'll pip me to the post. And I'm placing bets on another girl. And how's it going with DD1? Has she chilled out a bit? Maybe she's just getting anxious for you? Not that it helps at all!

TeeHee Have you booked some 'me time' yet hon? Go on, treat yourself. I insist!

Mibbes I can't beleive how many things E is doing now. Bet you're one proud mama! Will look on FB to see the pics.

Fruity Hope the 'pooter is being fixed as we speak. And can't give any advice re: couples counseling, but hope you find someone soon. It's awful having those thoughts hanging over you. But at least you're trying to do something about it. That's the scariest bit.

Ei Hope everything oK with you chick. Did you ever get any answers re: spotting?

Right, better go and try and rip DD2 away from the telly. Don't rate my chances much.

xxxxx

(Mibbes bad mother emoticon obv directed at me not you!! )

Morning my loves

Early start in the Lola household this morning, we've got our friends staying with their 2 kids, 3.5 and 21months, who decided 5.30am was a good time to get up... The joys we have to look forward to! But combined with the fact that by the time they arrived, fed and bathed the boys and we went to the take away for an in depth discussion about which dishes we could order (have to be gluten free) we didn't eat til 10pm, which I don't think LO appreciated so I didn't sleep well & so am absolutely shattered...

Piper good luck with your next scan, know nothing about twin measurements sorry, but from my ignorant position I would also have thought your measurements were pretty good... let us know how you get on xx

Thank you so much for all your chair comments, I really appreciate it! Think will go to M&P today after work to check out their selection... Mibbes I'm glad it's not just me thinking about the interior of my house!! Can't quite shake the feeling that that's why I like the final M&P one best!! [bad mother emoticon]

Sparkly really hope you can relax and enjoy today, you've worked so hard to get here, now it's time to bask in the glory! And we want photos of you and Spook in your sexy dress! (Especially if you do fall flat on your face - silver lining: a bit of You've Been Framed money would pay for a new changing bag!)

I sympathise so much with Scully & Georgie, I'm TERRIBLE at waiting patiently for things, especially if I don't know when they're going to happen. I think I'll have to find out what my induction date would be just so I have something definite to work towards! Not a great help when you're so uncomfortable though I suspect. Georgie am very glad it's cooled down for you, though according to my mother (avid watcher of weather forecasts) summer's coming back on sunday, so would you like me to have a quiet word with Tedwood to see if I can persuade her to make an appearance before then?

I had a midwife appointment yesterday. Good news is baby was head down and 3/5 engaged, bad news is she has me measuring 4cm small for dates, and 1cm smaller than the last time she saw me! Am SO glad I had that scan earlier in the week or I'd be in full panic mode by now. I guess it serves me right, I've always said fundal height measurements are a load of old poo, so it looks like that's come back to haunt me! It's crazy though isn't it, on the scan LO is measuring slightly big if anything, just about the 50th centile which is where she's been all along, and yet I'm 4cm small... I am right in saying that as the scan was fine I shouldn't be worried though aren't I ladies? I'm guessing the fact that she's 3/5 loses a bit, but 4cm seems like a lot.... <<I will not worry I will not worry I will not worry.... *repeat until convinced*>>

Hope you all have a lovely friday. Looks like it's going to be a very long one for me - v early start, then work, then M&P & hopefully going to pick up some baby stuff from a friend, then have hair app in southampton at 5pm so one way or another when I leave the house this morning I think I'll do well to get back here before about 10 o'clock tonight!! Ah well, at least I should have good hair to go straight to bed with! (and I mean to SLEEP!)

Piper I thought that for twins those sound like promising measurements. I can't beieve you are more than half way already !

Lola I had the Fisher Price one and it was great. Evan loved the vibrate function when teeny weeny (put him to sleep several times) and he really enjoyed the flashy lights and music when a bit older. It was a Godsend when I was making dinner as I plonked him on the kitchen worksurface in it and he was as happy as Larry. I borrowed it and TBH wouldn't have chosen it as I wanted all pale neutral things but with hindsight I think it is a really good bouncer and babies love bright colours . When I was PG this is the one I wanted Bloom rocker but now realise that it is not really very comfy looking - I was thinking of my house interior as opposed to the baby's comfort - oops

Sparkly good luck tomorrow, I'm sure you won't fall !

COME ON the new babies - hurry up we are itching to 'meet' you

Evening all,
Another busy day here - mainly boring household things. I graduate tomorrow. Not looking forward to it - I know I'll fall flat on my face!!
Piper Just to put it here as well, don't be too worried about measurements at the mo. I'm sure they can be up to a week out and there's still plenty of growing time. At least you'll have another scan very soon.
Scully DD seems much better today. Am not going to risk nursery tomorrow so will send her to my parents instead. How are you feeling and how is DD?
Lola Still haven't tried on the dress but it's almost tomorrow so it won't be long. I would go for a M&P one. It'll be perfect for what you need. I bought some cot and moses basket sheets in Matalan. It's so cheap!
HTGG Has the reflexology got Tedwood moving? You're bound to be worried about giving birth when it's imminent. Esp because you've been through it twice before and you know what's coming. You will be fine though and it'll be worth it.
Mibbes I used to have cooking days when weaning DD. There would be puree up the walls and she'd hate half the stuff I made. It's so satisfying though .

DD is calling for a drink so I'd better go and get her one. Anything for a couple of extra mins attention...

Hi ladies, just a quick update from me, had 23 week scan today, twin A is measuring 21w 5d, twin B is measuring 22w 4d. Have a growth check scan in two weeks, hopefully they will be growing well

Another quickie but can't resist a quick comment on Lola's chairs.

Think the fisher price one looks a bit bulky. The M&P e bay is very similar to N's main one with he loves and is nice and comfy for a snooze. I would go for that or the last M&P one as they look the most comfortable.

Hang in there Georgie you are nearly there but this is such a frustrating time.

Must go as even tho bouncy chairs are great I don't think N should spend ALL day in it

Enjoy your reflexology Georgie, I'm such a fan Hope you're feeling better after that and a decent sleep
Know what you mean about being tired, after dd2 keeping us awake half the night by 3pm this afternoon I actually needed to lie down, something I rarely do. dd2 and I fell asleep for half an hour, made such a difference. Got back from collecting dh from work at 5pm and she was back running a temp of over 39 again. Finally managed to persuade her to take calpol and got 8ml into her, made all the difference, she ate her dinner and went to bed at normal time. Fingers crossed she is ok through the night....
As for dd1, don't think I've met more of a hypochondriac in all my life Am hoping for a better day tomorrow with/from her
3rd night in a row, yet more cramping, ok if I sit down, as soon as I stand up it's really uncomfortable. So who knows.....Have definitely caught something off dd2 as well, just feeling like a cold at this stage, hopefully won't develop overnight into anything more, would rather not labour and have the flu at the same time
I remember Matalan Lola, had a friend who lived at Ashford and there was one right near there that I liked to visit. I liked the Mamas and Papas bouncers you had links to, the first one on Ebay I'm a bit biased with as I had one almost identical to that with dd2, just didn't vibrate. Only reason I still dont' have it is that a friend's 2yr old sat in it and it tore......
How's dd feeling Sparkly? I so don't iron regularly, do the things that need it, as we want to wear them, and dh looks after himself.
Time for bed I think, 9.17pm here, I'm such a nightowl these days

cross posts georgie Gutted we don't live close enough for me to pop over and bring cake and sympathy. You're allowed to whinge, and if you can't do it here, where can you? Hope reflexology is relaxing if nothing else xx

Hadn't realised Mibbes photos were of Ei too! (am a bit thick ) now DEF going to have a look asap!

Right shopaholics, time to put you to work

Thank you for all your comments about the bouncy chairs, am def going to get one, but which one??? Here are some options for your perusal

Ebay choices: have chosen ones that are close to me so I can collect them

fisher price think this one might get too ££, but also think the seller might be kidding herself...? Although it's £50 new in mothercare...

mamas & papas this one's close to my sister so she could get it for me

chicco deluxe have emailed the seller asking for photos... what sort of idiot doesn't include photos...?

Or there's teehee's in either pink or blue

I also quite like this one, and it's a decent reduction

or this one?
This might be my favourite looks wise...

So there you go! What do you think?

Bella be careful what you put on your belly, may be worth checking with mw what's ok to use? Not sure about germalene, think savlon spray is ok, how about trying some witch hazel or sudocrem (marvellous stuff, 1001 uses!)

Scully sorry you're having such a tough time! Hope DD1 & 2 start behaving themselves and getting better respectively!

Mibbes looking forward to a gawp at your photos later! Any more good bag shots?

Can't remember if this has already been said, but Fruity's laptop is kaput! Think she's worried how she'll survive til it's fixed, and frankly I'm concerned for her too! SO if she's not here for a bit, that's why

Sparkly sorry I had to run off from fb earlier. TRY THE DRESS ON NOW!!! Don't leave iit til just before you leave for graduation tom/when the shops are shut tonight, or sod's law says you'll hate it, whereas if you try it on now it will be gorgeous!

I discovered matalan baby clothes yday... oh dear.... so cheap and yet so gorgeous... luckily the store I was in had a v limited selection!

Hey there. Just a quick one from me. I'll catch up properly later. After thinking that things were on the move yesterday - loads of lower back pain, BH and lower belly cramping.....it's another day with a no show from Tedwood. Am beginning to bore myself now, so you lot MUST be bored with my whinging. Anyway, she CAN'T be born today as it's the step-mother-in-law's birthday and we'd never hear the bloody end of it if they shared a b'day.

Reflexology today. Will just be nice to have feet pummeled.

Feeling a bit blue. Just got to stage where energy all gone and I feel as if she's never going to come out. Am scared stiff I'll be really overdue, she'll be HUGE and I'll have to have c-section. Or worst still I'll break my hoo-hoo trying to get her out.....Nothing like over reacting then!

Ignore me. Am being spoilt little girl. Been awake since 4am and prob just over-tired and a bit emotional. Will have a nap this arvo and try and perk myself up.

xxxx

Sparkly wow 14 day.. I can't even bear to consider that possibility yet! Hope you're more on time this time, maybe it's the clary sage that will do it for us all

Fruity not sure if your lap top is back on but here are the contacts I emailed you:

search this website for students to get cheaper price

I used: Cecilia Frend she claims she adjusts cost t suit individuals

I have a small infection in my 8 year old belly piercing where it has been stretched and bumped and damaged on the inside, it's swollen and red at the top, and a little puss-y (tmi) I have salt washed it, put germolene and a plasted over worst, and of course removed the piercing...will it be ok? serves me right really I was warned...I was wearing a 'pregnancy bar' though

Love the hair Ei Great pics Mibbes, I do love baldy babies
Money can be the cause of so many arguments Fruity, sounds like it would help to sit down with someone neutral to work out how you both feel about certain subjects and how you can both compromise and still be happy .
Teehee's contacts sound promising.
Is no news good news Georgie?
I was tested for Strep B here, seems to be routine, wasn't for the dd's in the UK though. Test was negative, so one less thing to worry about.
Have spent the morning running around after dd2. Was up with her from 2.30am, she came into us with a temp of over 39deg, snotty, coughing and really not well. Temp a bit lower this morning and she kept breakfast down but we went to the dr as a precaution, more because of the baby and me. They aren't routinely testing children here for swine flue anymore, only if you fall into a certain category, which she doesn't, but he did suggest tests to rule out any nasty respiritory lurgies, mainly with a new baby arriving any day. So dd2 wasn't impressed when this tube was put up her nose for the test, but luckily the lady was quick, so we should know within 48hrs if it's anything to worry about. I'm starting to feel like I'm coming down with a cold now, not surprising considering I was vomited on, breathed and coughed all over last night but as long as I don't start feeling fluey I won't worry.
& to top it off, dd1 gets shitty in the last hour, whinging that the attention is on dd2 and I can still care about other people blah blah. I ask you with tears in my ears, 7yr old girls, what planet are they on? She has gotten a lecture, I didn't completely lose my cool but just reminded her of all the things we've been doing in the holidays that have been focussed around her, and that the only extra attention dd2 has got recently is help getting out of vomity clothes, seeing the dr & having a tube put up her nose Should have arranged for dd1 to have the bloody test as well, that would have shut her up......
Anyway, whinge over, I'm going to lie down for an hour before picking dh up from work.
Hope you're all having a nice day

I have finally uploaded pics from Ei's visit to Scotland

Fruity sorry you are having a rough patch, don't have any counselling advice, but feel free to vent on here hun xx

Georgie where are you ...?

Sparkly hope DD gets better soon and you look after yourself missus - keep away from those fluey pigs

Ei how are you my dear ?

Lola bouncy chair good for the first few months - E loved the vibrate setting and the flashing lights and music on his (borrowed from a friend). They don't use them for long though so don't spend a fortune, borrow or buy from ebay if you can. E never used a dummy as he used his thumb to settle himself when little, he has now stopped that - phew ! All of his baby friends use dummies, but only when really upset or to go to sleep.

I have just cooked enough food from Anabelle Karmel to keep E going for months !! I am exhausted as it has taken hours but am so glad it is done now - feeling all smug and Earth Mothery !

Sorry I've been AWOL. Mad weekend - mainly with DD dancing/dancing exams - she's 3 FGS. Same next weekend - dancing show etc.
We found out a few days a go that they have swine flu in the junior section of her school. I knew they'd be first to be hit as it's an independent school and many of the girls/parents are well travelled. To top it all off, DD was sent home ill today but she seems ok this evening. Fingers crossed.

Lots of catch up on.........
Lola I'm so glad you're going to slow down with work and finish early. You want to enjoy your time before your gorgeous DD arrives - don't feel guilty for it. I finished work at 29 weeks with L and I'd have done the same this time if I wasn't off already. L had a dummy for the first 5 months and then it stopped soothing her so I stopped using it. I wouldn't hesitate to use one again. Def get a bouncer chair. I'd get a swinging chair too. I found ours a God send. Haven't got it anymore but intend to buy a new one. Did you get any pics at scan?
Fruity So sorry you're having a hard time again . Just what you need...Men are def from different planets. How does he feel about seeing someone? I think it would be a good idea to do it before the big day and hopefully sort things out. No idea about the cost thing though. Please keep posting if you need to get it off your chest.
Scully How many days to go? Hope your DD is feeling a bit brighter now.
Cricri Love the new pics on FB. E is growing so quickly. She's such a sweetie.
Teehee Here I am [waves]. Bet you;re thrilled to have your DP back. So pleased everything went smoothly for you. Are you planning some 'you' time this weekend to make up for it?
Georgie No post from you today. Has the full moon started things off? Hope so .
Bella I'm going to read up of BStrep now. They don't test here but we can pay privately. Clary Sage was the only thing I didn't try at 14 days overdue. Maybe I'll buy a couple of bottles this time.
Ei Any news from you lovely? How are you feeling?
Piper You're quiet. Is your scan this week?

DP is out tonight and tomorrow and have just put DD to bed after spending the whole afternoon ironing AGAIN. I don't know where it all comes from or how I'll cope with another load of clothes.

Lola I found out the test can be processed at our local private hospital and they quoted 55 quid which I think is quite reasonable , my GP would have to refer and do the swabs. I'm going to print the email and take to my mw apt next fri if not before.

Fruity we used a lady in Epsom for a few months she specialises in relationship councelling and told me she assesses charge based on what one can afford. There is also a. Website I am going to search for and post for you that lists all therapists and some are recently qualified so. Charge less. I can give you my lady's contact tomorrow and I'm just off to search for that website x x x

Right, I can finally catch up!

First of all thanks for the advise. I think Relate only allows you to pay what you can afford if you're on benefits Unfortunately Child benefit doesn't count. So unfair!
It means only the rich/very poor can get help, what about us inbetweeners?
Makes me so cross, I'd be so much better of on benefits!

It's just the same old row, money mainly. He keeps dipping into our credit card/bills account. Barely any money left on the credit card now and the bills account shouldn't be touched as only the just enough cash goes into that account - it's just for bills to come out of.
So, I changed the password on the online banking (the account's in my name btw!) He's cross with me as he says he pays half so he should have access Says he's done it before and he always puts it back by the end of the month.
Funny that, why have I had to top up the bills account in the past from my own money so we don't go over the overdraft? He gets paid more than me too

There's other stuff too but a bit unfair to him as you're only getting my side of the story so I really won't go into anymore.
From where I'm sitting he's irresponsible and unreliable. I'm sure he'd tell you otherwise though

Trouble is, I was attracted to his extreme over laidback-ness at first. It's just plain irritating now

Apparently I'm extremely uptight and need to "chill out" If I hear those words one more time I think I might actually kill him - Lola could be a big case for you

Anyway......

Lola Dummies, essential! (IMO) C had one until he was about 2.5 I wouldn't let him walk the streets with it in his mouth (gross) but he would have it to go to sleep with and if he was tired. By that stage he was old enough to understand that it had to go. In fact, it was really easy. I just told him it was lost and he accepted it never looked back!
Bouncer - another essential bit of equipment, I love teehee's bouncer and it's on special offer too. I would definitely get a bouncer rather than a rocker like I've got In a bouncer they can bounce themselves. Mine you have to rock. I wouldn't bother with the music/vibrations, never used ours.

Damn, just realised the time, back later to finish......

I started this post at 7am this morning but Elise woke up and interrupted!
Fruity So sorry to hear things aren't good with DP again I've heard good things about Relate and as Scully says, I thought that they just asked you to pay what you could afford? In the meantime feel free to vent on here - it's what we're here for.
Mollie Glad GP is taking your rash seriously and doing some blood tests. I can imagine the look on your DH's face when you told him about the no sex ban
Teehee Glad you survived flying solo. I agree with booking a pampering session - you deserve it
Scully Oooh, "feeling funny" - sounds very promising! Good luck with the tax returns, hopefully they will bring on labour. Thanks for your comment about Elise - she is getting very big! 99th centile (update: Hope DD feels better soon - perhaps not a good night to go into labour after all!)
Georgie I'm loving your plan of attack to get Tedwood out - hope it works!
Lola Wow, a surprise scan, lovely! Glad you were reassured anyway and that all is well with your little girl.
To answer your questions - I was tested for Strep B at about 37 weeks. I'd tested positive in my previous pregnancy, although I was negative early on with Elise. However, given that GBS status fluctuates and as I wanted a home birth my mw agreed to test (she had to write that I had thrush on the form as there is no routine GBS testing here). The test came back negative fortunately. One of my friends gave birth very recently and found out she was GBS at 37 weeks and her little boy had to have IV antibiotics and was in SCBU for a day or so because of it. But that is very rare. The thing with GBS is it fluctuates - have you had a look at the GBS support site? Might help you with your decision. See what your mw says too.
*Bouncy chairs* A godsend as the others have said. Absolutely brilliant. Elise didn't really like the vibrating function and once she got bigger she was happier bouncing it on her own. She loved the dangly things on the arch though (we had animals). Swing seats are great too - it was the only place she would sleep apart from on me or with me so was great for having 30 minutes of peace to get showered or whatever. We had a Fisher Price take-along swing.
Dummies Elise was a very sucky baby so you'd think she would have loved a dummy... No way, she refused to take them. I tried a couple of different brands and gave up. I think like Scully's friend she uses me for comfort instead and nothing else will do!
Hope everybody is having a good day. We had a photographer round this morning to take some photos of Elise - she took nearly 500 in the space of a couple of hours! Elise was great during that time and hopefully we've got some lovely shots of her. We've also decided to go ahead with her naming ceremony so I'm just waiting to hear back from the venue where we'd like to hold it to see if it's free on the day we want.

Good thing I got up to check her after posting, just threw up again Changed her pj's a 2nd time, and she's now sitting up in our bed, looking at Disney Princess books..... Wanted to lie down though as her body was sore, which I'm interpreting as achey
Think I might google the symptons of swine flu, just in case.......
She managed to throw up on the only jumper that sort of fits me so I've just put a load of washing on at 9.35pm, to wash all the vomity things

Fruity, do Relate have an option that you can pay what you can afford rather than a set fee? Don't worry about being boring, better to share/vent I think.
Lola, I used a bouncer chair for both the dd's and have one for this dc as well. Look for one on Ebay, they don't use them for that long, but you will get use out of it, most babies like them. I found one that folds fairly flat this time, as space in our lounge room is an issue this time, agree with Teehee about the swinging ones taking up too much room, I could have borrowed one of them but decided not to, because of the space issue.
Dummies, buy one or two brands and let the baby decide. Both dd's had brands they liked and didn't like, and some babies don't like them at all. We weaned both dd's off them at around 18mths, some might think a bit late, but by that stage they were only using them at night. Wasn't a major issue to do and their teeth seem fine
I have a friend whose children have never used a dummy or had a bottle, but she bf the first one until 3.5yrs and the 2nd one is 2 in Sept and still being bf, they use her for comfort instead. She is happy with this alternative, but I wouldn't have been, dummy was the better option for me.
As for me, had more cramping today, bit stronger than last night, nothing worthy of being timed or anything, just generally uncomfortable. Hoping it won't happen tonight as dd2 has a cold, didn't eat much dinner and has thrown up about an hour ago, so would rather not have to leave her with someone in the middle of the night, like this

Fruity Second what Mollie says, we will not be bored as this is what we're here for. Would your Mum help out with the cost of counselling, or ask your GP. The problem with waiting for it on the NHS is that it tends to take a while. I had to wait 6 weeks for mine. Relate are pretty good I think and can just see you if DP not keen. Is he up for it though?

Scully What a glamorous life you lead! I bet LO won't arrive until you've finished. I think it's a mental thing sometimes, so Georgie are you sure there isn't something you should have done that you've forgotton.

Lola Bouncy chairs are brilliant!!!!! N is currently asleep in his as I type. We have one that vibrates and bounces although we only use the vibrate. Didn't get a swinging one as take up too much room. We actually got it free from people we bought the crib from which I was pleased about as didn't know if he would like it. It's been such a success that we've just got another for upstairs, pretty basic this one

Dummies - also a lifesaver as far as i'm concerned! We held off for the first few weeks to ensure the BF was going OK and started with the orthodontic Tommee Tippee ones which he wouldn't take so we switched to the more old fashioned 'cherry' dummies - Oh the peace!! Oh the joy!! Just have to get him off them now - possibly a job for the summer hols! It just helps get him to sleep and when he was very young and wind was an issue it just calmed him down enough to get the wind out.

Would love to catch up with everyone but N is now squirming so going to walk to the shops.

Where is Sparkly?

Fruity So sorry to hear that things aren't good in the fruity houshold again I don't know about relationship counselling but as you know I'm a fan of the counselling I got after the m/c's, it can't hurt and at least you would know that you have tried to salvage your relationship. Is there no access to free sessions? Have you checked on the internet? Feel free to talk about this as much or as little as you want on here, its not boring and it's good for you to get things off your chest x

Morning,
Just a quick "me" post.....

Have any of you had relationship councelling? What do you do if you can't afford it? (even Relate charge quite a lot) Is there any way to get it free?
Now I wish I hadn't bought the bag and highchair as the money could have gone on the councelling. (bag and highchair more fun though!)
We're having a bad phase again. Won't go into details as it's so boring now.
Just want to get it fixed.
Just got to get two completely different people with completely opposite views on life to meet in the middle somewhere which seems an impossible challenge.

Will pop back in a bit to catch up xx

Still doing the waiting thing down here, dd2 was 8 days late though so I'm not expecting to deliver before my due date
Mind you, felt funny last night so it spurred me on to put the last few things in my bag and the dd's bag.
Georgie, you are getting desperate, sex , that's so not happening at this house
A scan Lola, how lucky are you Good that your little girl is looking good and you could confirm that she is in fact a girl
Well done Teehee for managing without dh, is it an achievement the first time
Holiday photos are great on FB Cricri, isn't Elise getting a big girl
Have a riveting day planned for today, dd2 is off to nursery soon, and dd1 and I might then go grocery shopping, and then I'm going to start doing dh and my tax returns online. Our financial year ended on 30/6 and I was hoping to get everything submitted before the baby arrived, as we're due refunds He brought home his statement of earnings last night so I can start the exciting task today

List updated to tomorrow

Ei haven't changes yours lovely, not sure if you're counting spotting as day 1 or not? Have you made your doc's appt yet? (Answer: Yes mum! ) Really hope they can help xx

Shall we leave Jaamy on the list or not...?

Jaamy TTC#3 (MC Mar 08 and Sept 08)
HappyAndEiKnowIt CD 35 cycle 21 (CP/MC april, june08 & april 09)

Infanticipating
HeyThereGeorgieGirl 39 weeks pg (BFP 3rd Nov) EDD 10 July
Scully 39 weeks pg (BFP 8th Nov) EDD 13 July
BellaHarry 37 weeks pg EDD 29th July
Lola 33 weeks pg EDD 26th August
Piper 23 weeks pg TWINS!! EDD 16 - 23 October
Sparkly 23 weeks pg EDD 30th October
Molliemooma 16 weeks pg (BFP 6th Apr) EDD 16 December

Graduates
Emmsy GIRL! Amy Louise born 7th October 08 5lbs 12oz
CriCri GIRL! Elise Vivienne at 0630am 4th November 08, 7lbs 15oz
Mibbes BOY! Evan, born 3rd December 08, 6lbs 5oz
Fruity BOY! Jack, born 18th March 09, 8lbs 50z
Teeheelaydee BOY! Noah Robert, born 13th April 09, 6lbs 12oz

Hello lovely ladies

Thank you for all your kind words about stopping work. Have finally come to a decision and feel a lot better - at least for now! I've got a trial starting tomorrow (allegedly) and the one on monday that's meant to last 4 days next week, but everyone else involved reckons it'll be substantially quicker and "easy" (?) so have eventually decided to do it but then that's it. Other than the few bits and bobs I have in my diary between now and 31st July that'll be me done for the year! All I need to do is try to do enough per week between now and 31st to earn more than the £117pw or whatever it is I get as mat allowance to make it worth my while. So that's the plan! Thank you for your support, I really appreciate it

Apologies for the "me" post, but I've been meaning to pick your brains about a couple of things:

1. Bouncy chair thingies - get one? If so which one? Like the idea of one that rocks by itself, though think we'll need to keep it away from the dogs or they'll chase it!

2. dummies - which brand?? Don't see this as optional, but feel free to put me straight on that!

Bella think you asked a while ago about testing for group B strep? I'd pretty much decided not to, having spoken to my consultant about it, but I was talking to a friend of mine who's a GP and who is 38 weeks and that's made me reconsider. Also spoke to the mw who runs our antenatal group about it tonight and she said she'd get tested at about 36-7 weeks, so am going to talk to my mw about it when I see her on thurs. What are your thoughts on it?

Only other news here is that I had a surprise scan today I thought I'd felt reduced movements over the last day so I decided to give the day assessment unit a call to see if I could pop in for a listen (decided I didn't particularly trust the GP to know what they were talking about!) They said to go in at 2pm and I was just expecting a go with a doppler and a bp & urine check, but instead when the lady called me in, it was into a scan room! Would have told DH I was going had I known! All good anway, and LO is "definitaly a girl" - little hussey flashed her bits for us good and proper She's measuring just over the 50th centile as she has all along and has an estimated current weight of 4lbs 10oz which (although I know how inaccurate it can be) is still quite exciting!

Georgie hope you're out there howling at the moon as I type Does DH realise he not only has to perform but he has to perform well enough to give you an orgasm?? No pressure!! (And does he know that we all know that's what he's going to be doing on Friday night?? That should relax him nicely! )

Speaking of which Mollie I bet you were gutted about the 'no sex' thing, nothing like swollen ankles and generally feeling like the side of a house to put you in the mod hey? Glad you got the rash checked xx

Scully glad the mw check went well, the race is defintely on with you two! Were you on time with your other 2?

Teehee you have achieved a real milestone! Second Georgie's suggestions to you, def time for some mummy pampering now that daddy's home

<<waves>> to everyone else, sorry for prattling on about me for so long But got to sort out papers for tomorrow and go to bed now I think... night all.

PS husband and wife professional shoplifters tomorrow, no more wife beating for a bit

georgie no, don't worry I am diluting it in oil. Not sure how much I believe in it's powers but hay full term tomorrow so I figure what the hell. Most of me believes only baby dictates when it comes! Hope yours thinks tonight's the night x

Bella I do hope you're not rubbing NEAT Clary Sage into your tummy? Slapped wrist if you are. You must dilute it with a base oil or put 10-15 drops in a bath.

TeeHee Woooo hooo. You made it through hon. Now goa nd book your self a pedi or massage and bugger of for a few hours whilst DH looks after N .

Lola Second what everyone else says. Make the most of the only mat leave you will EVER have on your own. As frankie said, RELAX!!! We're moving on 22nd JUly, so really hope Tedwood out by then. There's (hopefully) enough of a gap to factor in any late arrival.

Fruity Really lovely to see you and the boys today. You're looking tippity top missus. And LOVE the bag. It's a winner!

Mollie Yeah, I'm bored too love . Glad the rash not a nasty one. And just tell DH that there's a porn amnesty until the baby is born!!!!

Scully I feel your pain love! Maybe we can send each other birth vibes?! I need to book an appt with MW for next week as well. I've never been overdue so the thought is really frightening me. Especially with bloody GP's telling me how 'big' I am .

Cricri Welcome home. Holland sounds lovely. Elise is a real globe trotter already. I think it's lovely that she's well travelled. Maybe it'll give her the impetus to have a really wild gap year?!

Right, better force some salad down me. Not really hungry tonight. But, there is a full moon......HOWL.............supposed to bring on labour......

I am still here - just a quickie. DP back tonight at some point, not til after 11 though so may as well be tomorrow. I'm knackered but feel I've achieved a real milestone.

Anyway just wanted to say Lola I think it's pretty clear that it's time to stop work and who cares what others do. If you feel it's time then stop. IMO the benefits you will gain will far outweigh the loss of cash. Enjoy it - read, watch old movies, potter around the house and garden and get ready for LO's arrival. I promise you won't regret taking that time to enjoy yourself (oh and napping of course is very important)

Mollie Tell DH he got his fair share with all this TTC business so he'll just have to have the memory of that for a while!

Must eat - night night!

Mollie hee hee..maybe I had my glasses on after all

I got a bit bored a half hour ago and thought I'd rub a bit of Clary Sage into my belly; got a major shock as started having massive bh and back ache...that taught me! lol eased off now but boy did I sweat! imagine if there was something that magic that brought on labour as and when you wanted it...bet a few girlies in here (myself included) would want a bit!

evening to all you lovelies, have a nice, relaxing evening x

Lola Stop right now young lady, like the others said you should seriously think about giving up work asap, definately don't like the idea of your waters breaking in court and having to carry on Have you come to any decisions yet?
EI Have you booked a GP appt yet to get your spotting checked out? You don't want an infection to affect your chances, please go x
Georgie Getting bored now . . . .
Bella MN looks exactly the same to me??
Fruity Glad the wedding plans are coming together, more excuses to shop
Sparkly Hope you are resting
CriCri Glad you had a lovely holiday, will look out for the photo's on FB
TeeHee So pleased you survived the weekend

Got my rash checked out at the doctors today, she thinks its heat related but wanted to rule out the pg/bile linked one so having some bloods done Monday. Then she started telling me all about how I can't have sex with a low lying placenta, obviously I was gutted poor DH was, he just sighed heavily when I told him and said "Well whatever is best for baby"

they've changed mn again. Think it's better this time, don't need my glasses; seems to be bigger!??

Don't get excited ladies. Still here.....

Have booked another reflexology session on Thursday though. And poor old DH has been instructed that it's time to 'man up' and 'take one for the team' on Friday night if there's nowt happened by then . Am sure he'll be running round the bedroom screaming, 'my eyes, my eyes' when he cops a load of me trying to look sexy . Poor bloke. Could scar him for life. Although not as much as I could scar him for life if he doesn't perform. No pressure then .

He's taken Friday off work, so it's pineapple, curry, long walk, bounce on the Swiss ball, warm bath with Clary Sage and sex. If that doesn't work, then I officially throw the towel in!

Off to make some lip gloss with the girls. it's a kit that DD1 got for her birthday. Results could be interesting.

Will check back later with a not so 'me, me, me' post. xxxxx

Lola oh hun I'd say stop work now, that convo with the judge sounded great! What an incentive to go. Sometimes you need someone else to recognise that you're ready to stop before you can really admit that there's no point being a martyr, no one thanks you for it, I found that as long as I was working people just thought 'oh she can cope' and piled on just as much stress and work as before. When I finnally decided to go (early) I had a similar conversation to you and judge with deputy head and it just made me realise it was time and no one would think any less of me for going. As it happened when the head announced I was leaving to our staff everyone broke in to a round of applause and kept saying 'about time'...such a relief and 'so' the right thing to do; I feel so much better now and the school's still standing (all be it with 7 cases of swine flu). Also you can get the belly out in the garden then

Fruity Trip Trap is a no go as DH says still expensive and not necessary yet and also as the chair lasts in to child hood he said we'd only need to buy another in a couple of years for DC2 (men...so practical!) You got any plans I can crash this week? Fancy popping to mine for a cuppa? weather could be good on Thur,kids in garden (I have a paddling pool!)Let me know x

Sorry to disappoint, but no news from down here Had a m/w checkup yesterday, baby's hb and my bp all ok, she had a feel and said it's still head down but right down into the pelvis. Did also say that the bump is all baby, could have told her that for free, there is no room left in the inn, I'm sure of that
I see the consultant next Tues and decide from there how overdue they will let me, if the baby is still happy inside. Really don't want to be induced if I don't have to be, so hopefully they'll give me until 41wks.
Holland sounds great Cricri
I agree with the winter babies bit, dd2 was a Dec UK baby and by May was a lovely age to take on the trips we did before leaving the UK in Oct.
Good that the bag is living up to expectations Fruity, and the highchair too 10wks will fly, until the wedding, wow, that is close.
Lola, you must see some interesting characters in your job But if the judge said it's time, then maybe you should listen Know what you mean though, it is early to just be sitting around, I know I would have gotten very bored finishing work that early.
Wonder what is going on with you Ei Are they due to do any other tests?
10.10am here and trying to work out what to do with the dd's today, as it's overcast and not that nice outside, so the park/backyard isn't an option. Think they will annoy me and each other if we stay home all day, but I am trying not to go too far from home, just in case......in fact dd1 is already pushing her luck, gotta love 7yr olds and their attitude

Just a quick post from me to say that we're back safely from Holland and that the cat did turn up, although I made the mistake of letting him out again early on Friday morning (I felt sorry for him as he was going to be shut up all weekend and I had locked the cat flap so he couldn't go out a