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Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By tillyblue on Sun 02-Nov-08 22:35:50
TTC #4 and lurking in the shadows really as some people may tut and say surely 3 is enough!
Anyone else doing the same?

Oh blimey, I will cringe if no one comes over!
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Diege on Mon 03-Nov-08 08:44:23
Hi Tilly! Just to say you are not alone grin. I am currently 7 weeks pregnant with no.4 and there are a few of us floating around. There was a ttc for no.4 thread a while ago, with a few graduates on various antenatal boards. Good luck!
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By amateurmum on Mon 03-Nov-08 08:54:57
Hello Tillyblue,
We are trying for number 4 (but having a month off at the moment as I don't really want another August baby after sending my tiny dd to school aged 4 and 2 weeks!).
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By SquidgyBrain on Mon 03-Nov-08 12:51:42
meee tooooo!!!

DH isn't convinced - we have had to have assisted conception with the other 3 kids but I seem to be ovulating on my own. We have always had the attitude if it happened it happened, and with me not ovulating and having PCOS it was a pretty low risk stratigy for him lol

BUT I have started to ovulate - this is the 2nd month in a row - I have warned him and given him the chance to use protection which he hasn't done - so if he is going to play with fire he is hopefully going to get burned.

Please don't flame me over this - I know my DH and he hasn't been convinced about ttc any of the kids and I know he will love any babies that come along

Im feeling very excited and hopeful

good luck ladies and congrats Diege
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By tillyblue on Mon 03-Nov-08 12:52:14
ah the there are others.
Congratulations Diege, thats lovely. When is your due date then?
Amateurmum (how can you call yourself that and have 3 kids already!? You are obviously NOT an amateur.)I know what you mean but history has shown me that my kids have never been the shy type so I have no worries over the August issue!Also it would mean the youngest wouldnt be too far apart from number 3.Perhaps I am being selfish but I fear I am becoming too old too quick and just want to get on with it now.
Tried for ages about 2yrs ago, lost one and then nothing happened for 6 months after so i got cold feet and stopped.

But have just decided to go for it.

What are the kids' age gaps with you both?
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By tillyblue on Mon 03-Nov-08 12:56:05
Hi squidgy! pretty exciting stuff once you decide to do it regardless of dh enthusiasm or not! What you got now?
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By SquidgyBrain on Mon 03-Nov-08 13:23:15
we are in Scotland so the August thing isn't an issue here - our kids can go to school from 4.5 to 5.5 - so our december born son could have gone last year or this year (he went this)

Tilly I am soo excited - just the possibility of it all! We have a DS1 - 5 a DD - 4 and DS2 - 2. To be honest it is kind of nice just doing it without DH - there isnt the constant chat about it and it feels much less stressful, kind of nice playing the "just lets have sex card" rather than "I need you to impregnate me" he seems to be enjoying it too. Although we both have stinking colds and trying to convince him that I was well enough to get down to it last night was slightly difficult, and since the ovulation tests are showing today could be the day I didn't want to miss last night!!

- What about yourself? How old are your DC's and what have you got?
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By tillyblue on Mon 03-Nov-08 13:34:46
That made me laugh Squidgy, SOOO been there done that. 'Oh darling lets make love right now!' sounds so much nicer, but they DO know what we are upto you know!
Wow yours are close together!
DD1-11 DD2-10 DS1-2. Big gap in middle when life was so easy for a while.
i am excited too, but also a bit scared. Dealing with teenage anxst and toddler tantrums all in one room is already happening. But the bigs are nagging for another and they are wonderful to him.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By SquidgyBrain on Mon 03-Nov-08 13:53:47
You know Tilly I don't think that he caught me out last night - I think playing the same card tonight might make him wonder though although I shall just tell him it was sooo wonderful last night that I simply must have some more....... I did try to play that card at 4am this morning but he was having none of it! Humph you can tell we arn't newly weds any more!

Lovely that your "bigs" are so keen for another sibling Mine all seem to think that it is a good idea too - DH is well and truely outnumbered!!
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By tillyblue on Mon 03-Nov-08 14:52:40
4am Squidgy ?!!!!
my god you would be fine with the night shifts that come along with a newborn! Am impressed!
Our contraception the past few years has been small giggling children trying to peer under the door at 6am or tweenager banging on the door at midnight wanting to know where her phone charger is!
Hmm, maybe 4 am is a good idea...
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By SquidgyBrain on Mon 03-Nov-08 14:57:34
only 4am as youngest had just made an attempt to get into bed with us and I had been up putting him back into his bed.....and dreaming of that almost possitive ovulation test.........must get sperm inside me.....!!

(yes Im slighty insane it helps round here!)
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Diege on Mon 03-Nov-08 17:08:49
One of the reasons we went for no.4 was that dds 1&2 only only 16 months apart (age 6 and 7) and little dd3 nearly 3. Just want to even things up a little!
This is definitely my last pregnancy - no chance of a no.5 for me...due June 22nd, after a mmc in July, and suffering horrendous sickness. I had forgotten quite how bad it gets!
Love your 'contraception' TILLY! We resorted to ttc on/off the sofa in the early evening, though had to listen put for the click of the stair gate and the resulting whining voices..
LOL SQUIDGY at rampant attempts for sex. My poor dh hasn't been allowed anywhere near me since bfp - feast/famine here!
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By SquidgyBrain on Mon 03-Nov-08 20:06:20
Diege - our eldest are 18 mths appart almost to the day. so sounds like we are in a similar boat

I said no more after number 3 - horrible pregnancy but here I am abusing my DH something cronic lol

Yup Diege it is feast famine in our house too - I wonder if that is why he is so unkeen hmm
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By tillyblue on Mon 03-Nov-08 23:18:29
Yup, same again here. Eldest two are 20 months apart and then 7 yr gap. Can everyone else see a pattern ?
Dh has a cold and has just gone off upstairs saying..dont wake me !!! Now thats disturbing!
Diege how is pregnancy now?
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By rainbowdays on Tue 04-Nov-08 00:19:20
hehehe! yep I see a pattern and I am there with you all!

I currently have ds1 - 5, dd - 4 and ds2 7months, and eager to have number 4 to be close to ds2. I only had 15 months between the first two and although tiring, it is great to see them relating so well now.

I will definitely want to stop at 4, as I had horrible pregnancies with both my sons. Also I will end up stopping at 3 if I don't get pg fairly quickly, as I am no longer a spring chicken and really don't want to be changing nappies on my 45 birthday! (how mean is that!)

As for pursuading dh to be co-operative at the right time in the month, has been not too difficult, probrably due to the sleep deprivation of the last 7 months messing up our thinking brains! Officially only on month 2 of trying for real.

It is great to meet some other mad people here too!
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Diege on Tue 04-Nov-08 11:28:22
Yes, I think 2 close together then a break, then another two is quite a common pattern for 4 children. Apparently it was 'the' thing to do in the 1970s hmm, and is fashionable again according to Vogue grin
Squidgy, pregnancy this time is as tough sickness-wise as with no.3. I am able to work from home for the next 6 weeks or so, thanks to v.supportive work, but the house is a tip, homework is getting forgotten, and the 2 forthcoming Nov birthdays are very neglected. I have a scan on Thursday after having the miscarriage, so touch wood all is progressing ok smile.
I am an oldie too (well, pre-oldie, 39 in May) so it was now or never for us! (dh v.old wink)
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By SquidgyBrain on Tue 04-Nov-08 13:52:57
Why is it I am always out of fashion lol - I don't think that you really can call the 28mths between DC2 and DC3 a "break" and I would have had him sooner but it just didn't happen. If we do manage a 4th the break will be bigger - 33 months mininum between DC3 and possible DC4 so I guess we better think about twins or a 5th to keep up with the in crown

glad that your work is being supportive Diege, good luck on Thursday - be sure to update us and let us know how you are doing

mmm I am wondering if I am the baby of the bunch at 33
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By tillyblue on Tue 04-Nov-08 16:05:55
Wow spooky...Diege are you me???!!
Hope scan is all ok, sure it will be but I know you will be anxious after having mc.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By adie3 on Tue 04-Nov-08 16:32:12
Hi ladies, Can I join you? I am also ttc#4. Had a cp at the end of Sept and have just got first af following that so am back on the horse!!

I have ds1 aged 5, dd1 aged 3.5 and dd2 aged 10 months, so hoping no.4 will be close to dd2 in age as the other two play so well together (most of the time!!) and dont want her to feel left out.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By tillyblue on Tue 04-Nov-08 21:17:03
ooh yes adie3, welcome welcome.

Should we make it a club then? (god I sound about 7yrs old)!!
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By tillyblue on Tue 04-Nov-08 21:18:30
Adie whats a cp ?
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By SquidgyBrain on Tue 04-Nov-08 21:23:18
yeah lets have a club (and lets hope we all get in the "club" soon)
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By tillyblue on Tue 04-Nov-08 21:33:55
Lol.
Sorry forget to shout hello to rainbowdays too grin
Is this right then?

tillyblue dd11 dd10 ds2 ttc
squidgybrain ds5 dd4 ds2 ttc
diege dd7 dd6 dd2 pg7wks
amateurmum ? ttc
rainbowdays ds5 dd4 ds 2 ttc
adie3 ds5 dd3.5 dd2 10mths ttc
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Diege on Wed 05-Nov-08 09:29:24
Ooh a club I love it! This seems such a lovely thread, hope you don't mind me sticking around as technically my ttc-ing is done! I can be the group carrot hmm.
Welcome adie! Respect to ttc-ing with 10 month old... (err, hang on, dd1 was 5 months when we started...blush 'Irish twins as they say grin).
Thanks Tilly! Am nervous about tomorrow but am suffering horrendous sickness as with all 3 dds (but not one day of nausea with mc) so trying to be positive.
Have an acupuncture session today to try and combat nausea. It's my second, so will need to keep things going for a few weeks I think (they are fleecing me though at £36 a shot!).
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By SquidgyBrain on Wed 05-Nov-08 09:46:57
Diege - 5 mths now that does deserve respect!! We started IVF when DS was 7.5 mths - unfortunately the 1st cycle didn't work which is why there is 18mths between our first 2 - I think that the clinic thought I was slighly mad :S

Can't wait to hear about your scan - Im glad you are sticking about to be our carrot!!
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Diege on Wed 05-Nov-08 17:12:53
Wow squidgy, that's stil good going taking IVF into consideration!
I will update you on tomorrow's scan as soon as I get back. I am feeling sick on top of my usual sickness just thinking about it!
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By rainbowdays on Wed 05-Nov-08 19:59:33
tillyblue dd11 dd10 ds2 ttc
squidgybrain ds5 dd4 ds2 ttc
diege dd7 dd6 dd2 pg7wks
amateurmum ? ttc
rainbowdays ds5 dd4 ds2 7 months ttc
adie3 ds5 dd3.5 dd2 10mths ttc

just corrected my stats - my ds2 is 7 months old, so I am pleased thatadie is here so I don't look quiet so crazy.

Diege - hope the scan goes well, and glad you are our carrot, may we all be carrots soon! hmm
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By jemimap on Wed 05-Nov-08 23:12:29
Hi all.. love to join too.. Casting an eye on your DC's ages, I guess I'm the mad woman as DS1 is just 4, DS2 is just 2, DD1 is just 1 and here I am again trying for #4!!!! If I manage to get pregnant quickly, I could end up with 4 children, ages 4 and under.. Fairly impressive, if not a little bonkers! Actually, I'm trying to hang on a couple of months by still Bfeeding my little girl as it seems to be the only way to stop myself trying to get pregnant! (as yet, still havent had AF - 12 months later!)

Congrats Diege on your news..

Hopefully join you soon..
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By adie3 on Wed 05-Nov-08 23:45:15
Tilly cp is a chemical pregnancy or at least thats what I assume I had. Had a BFP on day af due so was really pleased but being the serial tester that I am, the next test I did the line kept getting fainter by the day. Then started bleeding one week later as if normal af.

Welcome Jemimap!
Glad to see others trying for no.4 with young babies like me. We conceived ds1 and dd1 in the first couple of months but with dd3 we were ttc for about a year, so thats why we wanted to start ttc no4 pretty sharpish in case it takes a wee while. I always wanted a big family coming from one of 7 myself although I dont think I'll go that far.

Good Luck everyone grin
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By SquidgyBrain on Thu 06-Nov-08 09:42:23
so where in the game is everyone this month?

I think being ill has put me out the game sleeping has been more appealing than anything else :S

Im expecting AF around 16th Nov (I have looooong cycles)
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Diege on Thu 06-Nov-08 12:52:30
Scan fine! Measuring 8 weeks (I'm 7.4 so happy with that) Really releived as was fearing the worst after streak of blood this morning. Strong heartbeat too, so very, very happy!!!
Welcome to Jemi smile. My dd1 was only just over 1 when dd2 came along, and it was my easiest gap yet. Good on you for trying so soon - they get on so well with such a short gap (oh and the squabbling is something else wink)
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By SquidgyBrain on Thu 06-Nov-08 13:07:35
Diege - congratulations so happy to hear that the baby is doing fine

Sorry Jemi - I am being rude - welcome
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By greedygreedyguzzler on Thu 06-Nov-08 17:29:51
why oh why am i here lurking on this page!!!???

rainbowdays....................stop me!!!
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By adie3 on Thu 06-Nov-08 17:47:43
Greedy you know you want to...!!

Congrats Diege on your lovely scan. Its a very special moment isn't it when you first see that little heart chugging away? and i'm sure still as amazing when its no.4 as it was with no.1....aaah dreamy, broody face!!! You have to stay now to be our lucky mascot!

I'm on cd5 at the moment so going to be busy the next couple of weeks wink. I'm going to go for it big time!!! Plus we happen to be away for the weekend next weekend for first time ever without kids and it will be perfect timing for serious romancing!!
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By rainbowdays on Fri 07-Nov-08 09:23:45
deige - congrats on the good scan, such good news to get a strong heartbeat. How is the sickness, did the acupuncture help?

greedy - grinhehehe!, I know that you really want a forth still, don't worry I won't tell the others gringringrin!

squigybrain- AF due around 16th Nov
adie3 - cd5 getting ready to get busy
rainbowdays - currently ov-ing, af due 20th Nov
greedy - !!!!!!! well we will see what happens grin
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By greedygreedyguzzler on Fri 07-Nov-08 14:17:03
i need to get this thread off my 'threads i'm on' bit and then i wont keep seeing it and get all broody!

im ov'ing at the moment, and on a promise for tonight, BUT we WILL be using a condom!

off to hunt for a thread about how much hard work babies are to put me off having anymore again!!
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By tillyblue on Fri 07-Nov-08 23:18:19
hello, sorry not been around but I caught a sick bug off ds envy and am now feeling a bit more normal again.

Diege, fab news, so pleased for you.

So excited to see how many of us there are !! What I cant believe is those with tinies who are ttc. Think you are mad or inspiring, cant decide.
AF due 19th. (Or hope not at least)

Question: How soon do you start testing and where can I buy cheap ovulation tests and pg tests?
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Diege on Sat 08-Nov-08 14:04:47
Thanks again for the good wishes smile I am honoured to stick around as the group's carroty mascot grin.
TILLY - I got a mix of ovulation/pregnancy (25?) tests off Ebay for about £2.50. Started testing after spotting at 10 days post-ov, and got an incredibly faint line on day 11 (cd 24). I think if you're prepared to get negs, but know there's a good chance it's too early, then test away with cheapies!
LOL GREEDY - I think the lady doth protest too much wink. Good luck with the hiding the condom grin
RAINBOW - I'm not sure about the acupunture actually. I felt it was taking the edge off somewhat, but then have been violently sick today after this morning's session. Will persevere as dh is paying wink - if it was my money I think I would be less keen blush
Hi ADIE! Sounds like things will be hotting up this week in the ADIE household. Anythibg remotely sexual is a distant memory, although I had an amazing dream about Simon Cowell the other night grin
SQUIDGY, is there any chance you could be pregnant this month, or are you waiting until af before lauching into ttc-ing?
Hello JEMI and anyone else I've missed smile
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Nemowith3and1tobe on Sat 08-Nov-08 14:09:04
I started a thread similair to this about 8wks ago...am 9+6wks today and have a ds who was 5 last month,dd1 who is 3 next month and dd2 is 22mths.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By RubysTheBoss on Sat 08-Nov-08 20:36:31
Hello there, mummies of many.
I would love to join your club too.
I am incredibly broody for baby #4, and all your chat is making me even more so!
So far I have ds 8yo, ds 6yo, dd 4yo.
Also dss,21 and dsd,19. (They live with us too, bit like the Waltons grin).
The young ones are now all at school, and even tho life is getting back on track I am desperate for another. I expect that I could be grandma at anytime, but thats not the same, is it?
Now for the problem, I was sterilised after dd was born sad. I am making moves to get it reversed. Full support from dh (obviously he would be some sort of 'super stud' with 6 kids hmm).
I am aware that there are no guarentees that it would work, but a couple of months ago I felt incredibly pregnant, and AF was late, but then arrived with avengance! so hoping this means that I could be the 1/200 who can still conceive after sterilisation, and giving it our best efforts, tho prob in vain (but enjoying it anyway!!)
Am I one of the oldest members at 38?
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By SquidgyBrain on Sat 08-Nov-08 22:01:19
Diege

Im hoping im in the game this month - but due to being ill didn't get much baby making action

but this 2ww is making me slightly mad - I have now got a really sore boob and feeling nausated oh and got a funny taste in my mouth - why does ttc turn us sane women into bonking mad creatures! I know that theses symptoms don't mean anything but I keep thinking mmmm I wonder! (no I don't get any of these symptoms normally and the last 3 times I have been pregnant the only symptom I had was the definate feeling I wasnt!)

come on Greedy you know you want to!

Congrats Nemo

Good luck us would be carrots!!
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By rainbowdays on Sat 08-Nov-08 22:16:35
I am having a moment of doubt as to whether #4 is a good idea.... why am I doing this?
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By RubysTheBoss on Sat 08-Nov-08 22:43:13
Hya rainbowdays
Of course *4 is a good idea. What difference does one more make, the more the merrier!grin
Saying that, I daren't tell anyone that I want another (esp my mum n dad), coz I know what they would say! ie 'Why would u want another when u can't cope with the 3 u already have!) But obviously I deserve a 'good baby', I have had 3 tantrum-filled-non-sleepers(till at least 3 yrs old)hmm.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By SquidgyBrain on Sat 08-Nov-08 22:52:33
LOL Rainbow - I know what you mean - madness!!

Ruby - welcome I know what you mean we (sorry Im since DH isn't complicent in this crime) arn't telling anyone as I am sure we would get the same comments!!
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By adie3 on Sat 08-Nov-08 23:11:06
Evening ladies! No-one in RL knows about our undercover(literally) operation either!!

Have plenty of moments when I wonder what on earth are we doing as well, like tonite when I had to do baths and hairwashing for all of them while dh is on a nite out, and ds decided to empty the bath with a boat pouring the water onto the floor, which then dd1 slipped and fell in and dd2 was just screaming because everyone else was!!! But then I think might as well go for it when I'm still in the baby-mode if u know what I mean, rather than wait a while. Also not getting any younger and of course the most important reason -I just Luuuurrrrvvvve babies!!!
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By SquidgyBrain on Sat 08-Nov-08 23:13:22
PMPL - undercover operation!!!!!!

I like that!!
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By adie3 on Sat 08-Nov-08 23:16:12
welcome ruby {smile]
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By RubysTheBoss on Sat 08-Nov-08 23:42:03
adie3 Thanks for your welcome! Ur bath-time sounds just like mine! My DH is also out for the nite, but on his way home very shortly. Prob wont be in a state for babymaking tho'sad.
Also, I know wot u mean. How ever mad it gets at bath-time, it is always such a lovely time! 'BRING ON THE TRUMPETS BABIES!!'grin.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By ready4anotherCoffee on Sat 08-Nov-08 23:57:46
hello, may I lurk?

ds 4.6, dd1 2.9 and dd2 8mths, and am v broodyblush
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By tillyblue on Sun 09-Nov-08 10:27:14
Diege... Simon Cowell? shockI am using them and I know I ov about day 10. But the ones from the pharmacy are so pricey! Will try Ebay, thanks.

Ruby... wow. I dream of having a family as big as that. With the noise dd11, dd10 and ds2 make it ofen sounds like 6. How do you cope with all the washing? I am 38 too, so is Diege I think. I would love twins next to bring it upto 5 but like you we havent told a soul we are trying. I am so old all my friends are well and truly out of the baby phase.
Am impressed with the whole reversal . Good for you girl!

Squidgy, lol at poor unsuspecting DH!!! When can you test?

Adie- pml at bathtime. smile
Ready4another wink..hello and welcome.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By RubysTheBoss on Sun 09-Nov-08 11:19:40
tillyblue...must admit, the washing is a nightmare, and the dryer never stops. But hey-ho, its all part of the fun hmm! I have 2 good buddies who are both newly pregnant envy, and will both be 40 when their little ones come, so I wld be in good company if I am lucky enough to have another!

Just been looking thro baby pics of the kids! Aaaaw, how gorgeous, why did I ever get sterilised?
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By greedygreedyguzzler on Sun 09-Nov-08 21:23:36
why DID you get sterilised ruby? we are almost definatley sure that we dont want anymore ................although me lurking on here all the time isnt helping things!! and i think we MIGHT consider getting dh snipped, but i would hate to make a big mistake. how long did you take to decide about getting sterilised? i was thinking i should wait at least a year and see if we still feel the same

rainbowdays...........why the change of heart?

simon cowell? oh dear! oh no!!...............
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By RubysTheBoss on Mon 10-Nov-08 12:51:12
Hya Greedy.
At the time we were sure that we didnt want anymore babies. DD was about 20 months old DS2 was 2yo, DS1 was 6yo, and everything seemed sooo hard, as they were all poor sleepers and expert trantrum-throwers. We thought about it for prob 12mnths, and there was no way that DH would have his bits tampered with grin, so there as only 1 option.
It is only really the last 6mnth that I have felt so broody. I am waiting for appointment at hosp to discuss the reversal. So nothing happening at the mo.sad.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By SquidgyBrain on Mon 10-Nov-08 12:52:36
Ruby – I’m hoping that it isn’t too long till you are in the good company of your 2 good buddies

Jemimap – hopefully AF will arrive soon and you can get busy on making baby 4

Adie – how are things with you? Getting close to O exciting

Diege – how is bump coming along

Greedy – has the broodiness cover come yet???

Rainbow - how is the 2 ww going?? Any weird and wonderful symptoms?

Tilly – how is everyone feeling now? – how is your 2ww?

Nemo – how is your bump?

Ready for another coffee – welcome are you ttc or just thinking about it right now?

I’m feeling really down, thinking that it is probably a silly idea to even think I might manage to get pregnant after needing fertility treatment with the other 3. Still what will be will be and I am eternally greatful for the 3 DC I already have. I’m guessing I’m feeling it more this week as 2 friends have just had babies in the last week! Anyway – hoping everyone is well
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By ready4anotherCoffee on Mon 10-Nov-08 16:25:07
I would like to be activley ttc-ing, but I suspect nothing will happen until I stop feeding dd2. Well, that's how it went the other 2 timessmile

I shall continue not taking precautions, just in case thoghgrin
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By RubysTheBoss on Mon 10-Nov-08 16:48:40
Squidgy, thankyou for your support smile.Sorry that you are feeling low (((sending you huggy-vibes!))) also am so grateful for the 3 beautiful, healthy kids that we already have, but it doesn't take away the overwhelming desire for another, does it sad? On a positive note, my friend who is currently expecting, had IVF for DS1 (who is now 6yo), and conceived naturally this time. So you never know smile!
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By tillyblue on Mon 10-Nov-08 18:19:37
Oh Squidgey my dear, dont be down.
If it helps.. all my friends who have had IVF have conceived naturally and, in complete surprise, their last child. Anything is possible. And you could obviously go through the fertility process again?
As I said I have Pcos and last pg was a mc but I have decided to go again. Anything's possible grin. Keep me company!

Anyway am publicly electing as club secretary..Squidgybrain, for her efficiency and memory skills.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By tillyblue on Mon 10-Nov-08 18:19:38
Oh Squidgey my dear, dont be down.
If it helps.. all my friends who have had IVF have conceived naturally and, in complete surprise, their last child. Anything is possible. And you could obviously go through the fertility process again?
As I said I have Pcos and last pg was a mc but I have decided to go again. Anything's possible grin. Keep me company!

Anyway am publicly electing as club secretary..Squidgybrain, for her efficiency and memory skills.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By SquidgyBrain on Mon 10-Nov-08 19:14:03
Ready4anothercoffee - well of course the practice is always nice and you just never know what will happen – wouldn’t it be nice to get pregnant without having the witch come and visit!!

Ruby – no having 3 doesn’t take away the desire – although I do count my blessings and realise that I am blessed with having 3 healthy happy children. Thanks for the huggyvibes – it helped. I am just feeling so hormonal – which is unusual for me!

Tilly – thanks for the encouragement. We certainly couldn’t afford to go down the IVF route again, clomid would be an option (and I have some in the cupboard – what do you mean everyone doesn’t have clomid in their cupboards?) I wasn’t ovulating when I got pregnant via IVF or clomid – and I am now – so it isn’t out with the realms of possibility – just not feeling like that today. It is PCOS I have too – isn’t it a biatch! I would be delighted to keep you company thank you for the election of club secretary – good job you didn't elect me as treasurer as I may have raided the club funds and spent all the money on pee sticks…..I can tell it won’t be long till I give in and start weeing on things……….
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By tillyblue on Mon 10-Nov-08 19:47:54
Have just found a great site that explains the powers of the various pg tests www.ovulation-calculator.com

It says you can test at 10dpo for 25m/U hcg... I will be 10dpo tomorrow. Oooh!

(I will sneak off to collect eldest 2 from Guides via Supermarket under cover of darkness)!

How are you all today ladies?
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By SquidgyBrain on Mon 10-Nov-08 20:07:12
ooooh tilly got everything crossed for you - I ordered some from eBay today so much as I shouldnt (im a couple of days behind you)I'll be weeing on them as soon as they get here!

hoping operation peestix goes well!!
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By rainbowdays on Mon 10-Nov-08 20:56:27
I bought 100 cheap pee sticks from ebay for last time, they are still in date til next march and I have about half of them left, so POAS from 10dpo is an absolute must for me, afterall I wouldn't want them to go to waste would I?!

I am post-ov now, but not exactly sure days.

squidge - glad you have accepted club sec role, so you can keep us all on track as to who is testing when...

How is our carrot doing today - not too much puking I hope?

tilly - hope that you get your two lines tomorrow!

greedy - I really think that you will be changing your minds at some point. I have not really changed my mind, just wavering a bit as to the sensibility of it all.

ruby - yep you deserve a 'good' baby as long as I don't get my first terror in return grin

hi and welcome R4AC
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By tillyblue on Mon 10-Nov-08 22:01:07
grin operation peestix!!

Rainbow.. you need to check how sensitive those peesticks are. I have just learned this tonight..
The earliest one was from earlypgtests.com at 10 dpo using 20m/U,
next was Clearblue Easy at 12dpo for 50m/U.
the rest are all about the same at 14dpo.

Didint get tests from supermarket just a large bar of Galaxy and its now gone!blush

Adie when do you go on the romantic break? Cant believe you are one of 7, how fab!! How old was your Mum when she had her last?
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By adie3 on Mon 10-Nov-08 22:45:13
Evening ladies, just about getting a wee chance to come on and catch up with you all! Busy, busy days!!

Squidgy sorry you are feeling low at the mo, its not fair that our emotions are all tangled up with our hormones and can dictate the way we feel. Look back to one of your earliest posts on this thread and you said you were soooo excited about ttc and try and capture that feeling again. This is going to be the anythings possible club...I like that motto!!!

Tilly yes I'n number 4 of 7. My mum had her first at 26 and her last at 36, not a bad decades work!!! Its only since I have had my own children that I realise how hard she worked and how tough it must have been at times. Although she insists that she is reaping all the rewards now with all her family round her fussing over her and dad and keeping them young!!

CD9 today so getting a bit of practice in wink. We go away on Friday come home Sunday but beginning to wonder if its worth it as am cleaning the house from top to bottom as PIL coming to stay while we are away. Also the guilt of leaving the kids has propelled me into cooking enough food to feed an army, to leave for over the weekend. Why do I feel I have to do that?? MIL is perfectly capable of cooking delicious,nutritious food for them; it just makes me feel better somehow that they need me or something? Will I feel better while lounging in the jacuzzi in the hotel just because I left a shepherds pie for them to reheat?? Probably yeah tee-hee!! ANyway really looking forward to relaxing although know I will miss them all loads.

Tilly are you going to do a sneaky test tomorrow? My name is Adie and I have a poas habit!! I have been known (and it pains me to admit it) to have tested when I was having my period!!! Now what do you make of that and to the outside world I seem like a sane rational person! Its this ttc business it sends us all a bit silly Good luck for that...remember anythings possible!
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By adie3 on Mon 10-Nov-08 22:48:46
Welcome R4AC- you are in good company here and our club is a tight ship with a secretary, a carrot, a motto and some lovely ladies of course!
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By tillyblue on Mon 10-Nov-08 23:03:20
Adie, Need to find the fancy stix first. No am scared tbh!!
Might hang on a bit !
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By SquidgyBrain on Tue 11-Nov-08 10:16:18
TILLY – good luck with the finding the fancy stix! I hear you on the feeling a bit scared! I think that a large bar of Galaxy was the better purchase ! pee stixs don't taste so good

ADIE – You know when describe our little club like that it sounds like we know what we are doing! It is strange I wouldn’t say I’m feeling low – just weepy. I’m trying to be brighter today! Wow one of 7 your house must have been full of noise and fun when you were growing up! How lovely that your mum appreciates you all too. How many grandkids do your parents have? Must be the weekend for romantic breaks – DH and I are off for the weekend too – will catch up with some friends we haven’t seen for a while on Friday in Glasgow and then across to Edinburgh to book into a swanky hotel (on a cheap deal) and out of a nice meal – I can’t wait! I hope you enjoy your break. Im soothing my conscious about leaving them by baking some shortbread and buying a large tub of celebrations to send with the kids to MILs. I did have to LOL at you peeing on stixs when you have your period! I am bad but possibly not that bad!

RAINBOW - yes it would be rude not to test from 10dpo when you have cheap pee stix – when will you start POAS? I do hear you on the sensibility side of things, I do think you know I have 3 kid that go down by 8 and sleep till 7.30 they are all eating independently and only 1 to potty train I must be mad to want another (I also have horrendous pregnancies) but sensibility doesn’t come into it does it?
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By SquidgyBrain on Tue 11-Nov-08 15:55:05
my cheap pee stix arrived from eBay and the urge to wee on something was just too strong - so at 7dpo I got a *drum roll please* BFN lol what else did I expect??? lol
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By RubysTheBoss on Tue 11-Nov-08 16:05:43
Hi Squidgy, how r u feeling today? P'haps ur fed-up-ness is a sign of hormonal happenings, of the best kind smile.
When are you thinking about starting the peeing thing?
Hi tilly, have you surcummed to temptation and bought stix today? Or do you have super-strong willpower?
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Hi Squidgy, how r u feeling today? P'haps ur fed-up-ness is a sign of hormonal happenings, of the best kind smile.
When are you thinking about starting the peeing thing?
Hi tilly, have you surcummed to temptation and bought stix today? Or do you have super-strong willpower?
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OOPsblush, pressed twice! xx
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By rainbowdays on Tue 11-Nov-08 16:49:00
Tilly - just want to reassure you that my pee sticks are 10miu, I initially got sent the wrong ones by the company - lousy 25miu ones, but once I complained they sent out the early test ones immediately grin So I can test from 7dpo no probs. The baby I miscarried last year gave me a positive at 7dpo!!!! So I would say go find a good sensitive test and pee!!!!

adie - am jealous of you lounging in a jaccuzi at the weekend envy. Also ... My name is rainbowdays and I have a POAS habit!!!!

I just have a little problem now, I don't know how many days post ov I am - so when do I start testing! grin hmm I either ov'd early on weekend of 1/2 Nov or I ov'd last Friday, not really sure. With irregular cycles it is not possible for me to go by "when af due" as it is so irratic. Probrably ov'd last friday, so does that allow me to start poas from next monday!?!?!?
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By SquidgyBrain on Tue 11-Nov-08 17:22:20
Ruby - Im still a hormonal mess :S but hey ho we shall see - I peed on a stix already and it was neg but I am 7dpo at most so I am not exactly suprised lol shall resist till Friday if I can. How are you feeling??

Rainbow - next monday sounds good to start testing! So that is me you and adie all admitting to being a POAS addicts!
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Diege on Wed 12-Nov-08 09:01:00
Just wanted to check in and say hello! I have been very sick but am 8.5 weeks now so hopefully at the peak of my sickness!
Good luck to all testers grin. FWIW I tested this time with 10iu test at 7 days post-ov and got neg - got an extremely faint postive at 9/10 dpo from memory (I did ovulate cd 12/13 too).
SQUIDGY - agree hormonal mess ups can be a good sign grin. Hold on in there x
RAINBOW - permission from the carrot to start testing next MOnday grin. Sorry to hear about your miscarriage. I had one in July, and ttc was quite a rollarcoaster b ut it has helped me being pregnant by due date. Fingers crossed for you smile
TILLY good research on pregnancy test strength! You can be thread's tech grinHello to everyone else - ready, ruby,greedy, adie... smile.
Oh and you lot leave my Simon alone...grin I think he has gots loads of sex appeal and you just can't see it wink. Was oddly cheered when I heard he was single again, though as he doesn't want kids don't think I would be his cup of tea...plus there is queston of my dh blush grin
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By RubysTheBoss on Wed 12-Nov-08 14:52:08
Diege. Scarily enough, I am also having a virtual affair with Mr Cowell blush. What is it about him? It is obviously a power thing. I nearly laughed my head off when I read what you had written, I thought I must be the only secret Simon lover grin! P'haps we should start our own thread, the 'Simon Cowell, man of our dreams' thread grin.
Only 3 more days til X-Factor!
To everyone else, hope you are all ok today. x
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Diege on Wed 12-Nov-08 16:24:22
grin Ruby I think we are in the minority but I think he gets better with every episode. I have to say that Rafael Nadal (tennis player) runs a close second so you may have him as Simon is very much mine wink. As my pregnancy dreams will attest to grin
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By tillyblue on Wed 12-Nov-08 20:15:00
Have been working long hours so have not done any test yet
Dont think I m pg as am very weepy. Must be PMT sad
Am cheered at being Club Techie although am severely under qualified. Discotechie perhaps.

Ruby and Diege.... so NO !!
Try Colin Farrell ?wink

Squidge... hold on and we will test again soon.

How is everyone doing today?
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By scorpio1 on Wed 12-Nov-08 20:17:01
Hello grin

Think i am ov'ing today...period returned properly after dd's birth a couple of weeks ago!

tillyblue dd11 dd10 ds2 ttc
squidgybrain ds5 dd4 ds2 ttc
diege dd7 dd6 dd2 pg7wks
amateurmum ? ttc
rainbowdays ds5 dd4 ds2 7 months ttc
adie3 ds5 dd3.5 dd2 10mths ttc
Scorpio ds6 ds4 dd nearly 7 months ttc
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By tillyblue on Wed 12-Nov-08 22:28:23
Lol... I misread your post Scorpio and assumed you meant dd was born a couple of weeks ago and you were going again shock

but 7 months is still pretty amazing. Welcome.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By tillyblue on Wed 12-Nov-08 22:28:35
Lol... I misread your post Scorpio and assumed you meant dd was born a couple of weeks ago and you were going again shock

but 7 months is still pretty amazing. Welcome.
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scorpio - you are insane grin

(says SK hovering on this thread hmm)
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By RubysTheBoss on Thu 13-Nov-08 08:28:40
Good morning everyone, hope you are all well today!
Diege-I Googled Raphael Nadal, very nice grin, but a bit too young, I think! P'haps I will have to settle for Louis Walsh hmm (not)!.
Scorpio-Hya! I too thought that your DD was only 2 weeks old, and that you were already TTC again! The very thought of it makes my legs cross smile!
Tilly-I can understand wot u mean about Colin Farrell, esp since he is sooo trim these days, and that accent is lovely!
Anyway, off to work, will check in later.
Have a good day everyone grin.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Diege on Thu 13-Nov-08 08:51:52
Hi everyone smile. RUBY, you are welcome to Louis...no really I insist he is all yours grin. Agree that Rafa is a little young, but I am willing to overlook that - think he's 24-ish??? blush
SCORPIO wow!!! Good on you girl! I was pregnant with dd2 when dd1 was 6 months and found it OK (great gap and OK pregnancy wise).
SWEETKITTY you too??? wink
TILLY - it's so hard to distinguish PMT from pregnancy symptoms, but there again by no.4 we know our own bodies! Fingers crossed anyway x
Well I'm sacking acupuncture I think sad. It's done zilch-o and at £36 a shot, twice a week it's a strasin financially. At least I don't have to out up with questions about my 'stool consistency' anymore blush.
Hope everyone is well smile
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By scorpio1 on Thu 13-Nov-08 09:50:35
We haven't been using contraception since 4 months, lol grin but exc BF, so it wasn't gonna happen that early anyhow.

Doing very well here wink

And rainbowdays is just as mad! grin
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By sweetkitty on Thu 13-Nov-08 12:09:21
If you read my posts when I was pregnant with no 3 I would have said no way, I don't have good pregnancies, terrible SPD could hardly walk and with toddlers not a good combination. Plus all the other worried of bigger car/bigger house etc. I don't know I may leave it a good few months (years) but theres 18 months between DD1 and 2, 30 between DD2 and 3 so don't want to have a huge gap to number 4 if we were to have one IYSWIM?
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Diege on Thu 13-Nov-08 12:23:15
Oooh bet it'll happen really quickly for you this time SCORPIO! Had you always planned on 4 or is it a sudden thing (I swore no.3 would be my last...)
SWEETKITTY, I thing the gap thing is one of the driving motivations with going for no.4. I mean, if you want 4 anyway better to at least have some control over gaps ect...you sound pretty convinced to me wink
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By SquidgyBrain on Thu 13-Nov-08 12:29:26
DIEGE & RUBY – Simon Cowell – NOOOOOOOOO! That is all I will say on the matter!!! Lol

Tilly – weepiness of course can be a PG sign too – I have never been so sure I wasn’t pregnant the 4 times I was! So hang on in there. When are you thinking of testing. I don’t really want to test tomorrow as I want to go and enjoy our weekend away but of course if I test and get a neg I could enjoy perhaps a cheeky glass of red?

Scorpio – Welcome hoping you are not TTC for long

SweetK – welcome too! I had a terrible pregnancy with no 3 too – SPD – was on crutches and could barely move at times, couldn’t sleep for the pain, terrible gestational diabetes. I must say I am terrified in some ways of another pregnancy but every time I look at DS2 I know every second was so worth it and can’t help myself wanting another :S

Ruby – Louis Walsh – NOOOOOOO!

Hows everyone else?
I’m good. Have a pile of symptoms which I am not going to list as when AF turns up next week I will look like a loon!! Looking forwards to our weekend away so busy getting stuff sorted for that!!
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By scorpio1 on Thu 13-Nov-08 13:18:18
Have always said 4, since i was about 14 i have wanted four blush

Though normally DH takes a bit of persuasion for another, but this time he said it first grin

Have a 'poorly' ds2 here - though he looks bloody fine to me! hmm

DS2 starts FT school next September - thinking a Sept/Oct baby be nice
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By kayzisexpecting on Thu 13-Nov-08 13:23:43
<crashes>

Scorpio!!! TTC number 4!!! (so jealous, I want 4) Good luck and see you very soon in the bar!!!

Good luck everyone, you are in safe hands with Diege!!

<runs away>
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Diege on Thu 13-Nov-08 14:29:55
grin Oooh Kay thinking of no.4 already? grin
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By scorpio1 on Thu 13-Nov-08 15:18:37
she needs to get this one out first wink grin
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A mere technicality grin
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By kayzisexpecting on Thu 13-Nov-08 18:08:59
Just thinking!! I don't know if I can go through this another 2 times. I'm so fed up!!
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By tillyblue on Thu 13-Nov-08 20:34:13
Did test. Negative sad but I am not due til weds next week so a bit desperado really.

Lol at Diege being brave at overlooking Rapha's youth. grin
Squidgy, test now I say. If you are pg it wd be lovely to tell dh on romantic break. If neg then it would be lovely to get sloshed on romantic break. Either way this week you cant lose.

Hello everyone else. Its funny watching these people darting into the room and darting off again.

Oh dear god, who mentioned Louis Walsh???? Rearrange these words..wrong tree and barking up the....
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By tillyblue on Thu 13-Nov-08 20:36:46
Diege, are you still feeling really sick? Poor you. I always found forcing myself to eat was the best cure. And soup. Lots of homemade soup too.
Does acupuncture work for infertility too and does it hurt?
Cannot get head round idea that being as pin cushion could be realxing other than fact my 2yr old wouldnt be there.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By RubysTheBoss on Thu 13-Nov-08 21:52:27
Hya girls!
As u prob know, I was am in the process of trying to get sterilisation reversed, so do feel a bit of a false member of your club of ladies properly ttc#4. Saying that, as I had preggers symptoms a while ago, then a late AF, I am clinging onto the hope that I might conceive naturally. Espesh as we are putting in a lot of effort wink. I am mid-cycle at the moment, but have never known much about ov dates etc, and I am convincing myself that I will get a BFP without any surgery (as if). I still feel part of the club tho'. Be in touch 2moz xxx
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By spannie on Thu 13-Nov-08 22:01:22
Ruby you ARE in our club !!! smile
Wouldnt be the same without you now !
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