Congrats on the scan bringon Yay

Wow bring on, how time has flown! So happy to hear all is going well

oh bringon I'm so happy for you - it all sounds so exciting! Thanks for the update

Hey ladies, it's been a looooooong time since I've posted! Sorry about that

The second scan went really well! We saw a heartbeat (158 bpm) and they bumped me up to due on 1 April. Am 9 weeks along now and thankfully the m/s has started settle down. Have a little bump growing already!

How is everyone else doing??

Oh how things have changed! I was immune to rubella - called back for no reason! And various calculations and ponderings have led us to start TTC alread! so excited.

How is everyone? Bringon how about that scan?

x

Have you had your scan bringon x

Thanks bringon I've had the blood test to check about rubella and been called back to GP as a result - I can only assume it's because I'm not immune and need the jab. Nurse said all the other tests required no action, just that one needed a routine docs appointment. Many sources say you have to wait three months. A couple say one. we were waiting a few months anyway because of other medical issues, so it would only be one month extra, but still...

Happy growing thoughts for your baby!

Thanks for the reassurance ladies. Had a small bit of extreme bitchiness toward DH , bit of nausea and a whole lot of sore boobies today so I think things are starting to kick in a little. Received a call from my doctor today and she wants to do another scan in two weeks to look for a heartbeat and check the growth. Excited! Grow little blob, GROW!

Congrats on being an aunty Curly ! That really sucks about the rubella vaccine!!! I always thought that as long as you have already had it, you're covered. You have to wait all the way until November??

Bringon - Glad everything looked good at the scan, can understand you being a little dissappointed you didn't see more but sure you will at the next one

Hiya,

dalrymps B-u-T is a lovely place - lucky you!

bringon exciting nontheless I'm sure. Just found out my SIL is due the same time as you with number 2. (just checked your profile to make sure you are not her! )

I'm now worrying I might not be able to TTC til Nov - looks like I might need to update my rubella vaccine and then let the live virus clear from my body

Hi bringon, well, that's good news - good to know things are looking the way they should and in the right place. My symptons kicked in a couple of days before 6 weeks, so... watch this space

Hey ladies. Just got home from the scan. Turns out I'm only 5w3d along. The tech said that everything looks really good for the age but she wasn't able to find a fetus yet. The only thing that was visible was the yolk sac. I'm just waiting for my doctor to call me and hopefully I can set up another scan for a few weeks to make sure things are going smoothly and I'm hoping there is actually a heartbeat.

Sort of anti-climatic iykwim I was really excited about getting to see the baby's heartbeat and there wasn't even a baby yet. So, still veeeeeeeerrry early in the pregnancy and I'm not telling people yet. Hopefully in a few weeks!

Oh, I am due 3 April!

Curly, ah well I live in Berwick upon Tweed so not that far from there!

Thanks biccy and curly it wasnt a surprise in that i knew we were getting married next year hence ttc plans etc. But where and when was a surprise Am still buzzing.

It's in Edinburgh was just curious

Curly - Where's Dalry? Anyway, no, it's part of my surname

congrats dalry (are you actually in Dalry?) and bringon for the BFPs, and to kitty on the engagement.

The way my cycles are going I cannot really start TTC till October (was Sept but fertile time will be in October now)so I'm so jealous off all those already trying and with BFPs - but happy for you too!
x

Fab news Bringon, that is really great news! Congratulations.

And congratulations to kitty, that's lovely - was it a total surprise?

wishinanhopin, I'm afraid I really don't know anything about Clomid - but there are loads of people out there who will know stuff - maybe worth a separate thread if you haven't already?

So exciting bringon. I too had no symptoms at all, should never had worried, i'm now 8 and a half weeks and have had horrendous all day sickness for past 2 and a half weeks. It's probably just a little early and as they say, no two pg's are the same!

Oh wow!!!! Congratulations Kitty!!! Your ring sounds gorgeous! So happy for you!

Thing is, I have no idea when my due date is! I could be anywhere from 4-7 weeks pregnant. My doctor scheduled a scan for next Tuesday to see if there is a heartbeat. She had a feel around and she's thinking around 5 weeks right now. I'm just in shock still. I'm really not having any symptoms yet so I'm sort being a worry-wort b/c my pregnancy with ds had every symptom in the book.... it's just taking forever to sink in. I'm still just very much Really can't wait for next Tuesday. Haven't told anyone yet (aside from dh) and I'm really itching to start telling people!

Hi Girls
I need advice. So I started clomid July 14th. I didn't wait for my period to start because I never get my periods. They are very random, and my Dr told me not to wait, just to start.
So I took the 5 pills 50mg. DH and I went to work for a week straight, and today July 28th AF arrived. Last night when DH and I were bding it was a bit painful, and now today here is AF in all her fury.
I can't get into my gyno until August 17th and really don't want to waste a month if I don't have to. So I'm wondering what you ladies would do if you were me......should I begin a second dose of clomid for the next 5 days. And if so what days of your period do you start taking it. (having never started the first round on my cycle I don't know what days to take it)Sorry for the novel, but I know you ladies have been through it ALL, and may be able to offer me some advice
hugs to all xoxoxox

Wow, sounds lovely

Hehe

It's a round diamond with a pear shaped diamond either side on a platinum band. I love it.

Lovely news kitty! Congratulations
What's the ring like? <nosey>

WHOOP WHOOP

HUGE congratulations bringon

Guess what. I am getting married.DB popped the q on Thursday. Wedding next june! Yay x

Woweee bringon, thats great!!! Congratulations

When you due? If in march then you can come to my due in march thread

So pleased for you x

BFP!!!!!!!!

I went to the doctor this morning thinking there was something wrong with my hormone levels because AF STILL hasn't shown up... she did a pregnancy test and it's positive!

Still can't believe it myself. SO ecstatic!

Hello everyone
Just dropping in to say hi and see how you are all doing. Congrats Dalrymps... great news re your scan Biccy
Welcome and hi curlycasper and * Meanbean*
the gals are great here
Nothing much doing here. Have been looking at wedding dresses although the proposal hasnt happened yet Reckon it will be soon though. x

BFN Wish AF would just get it together and show up and be finished with.

biccy that sounds absolutely wonderful! I am so happy for you that everything looks great with your little one!

Welcome curlycasper ! Always plenty of room for more.

Hi, just finding another wagon to jump on..

Waiting at this end, but only till September. Loving the BFP tales on here x

Ooh, bringon, keeping my fingers crossed for you.

I had my nuchal scan yesterday, and it was amazing. Have been given adjusted risk of 1:8700 for Down's (against background risk of 1:450), and it was amazing to have a long look at baby as it flipped about, and opened its mouth. I have pictures now that show fingers! Just amazing.

Hope everyone else is ok.

Well good luck, sounds like there could be a chance...

Well dalrymps if I count from the time that I think ovulation happened she would be a week late, if I count from the time that I could have actually gotten pregnant (ie, when DH arrived in the states) then she would be 3 days late. I've just had such irregular cycles lately, I don't want to be disappointed!! I guess it's just part of the game .

I'll go pick up a test today and save it for the morning. Hopefully if it's negative it'll bring on AF at least!

Just popping in to see how you ladies are doing

bringon - How late is af? Very exciting, got my fingers crossed for you!

Alllright, so it's Sunday and no af. I could have sworn that ovulation happened before DH got here, but is it possible that it was late and I could actually be preg.? I'm trying not to think too much into it.... but I'm dying to go buy a test! Maybe I'll just give it a few more days and see if she shows.

Hope everyone is alright. It's been pretty slow lately!

Feeling ok, had my first bit of MS today . Am 6 weeks tomorrow.

Wow time has flown by, 11+4! Bet you're happy to be practically at the 12 wk point now. How are you feeling?

Hi dalrymps, how are you feeling? I'm 11 + 4 today. Having nuchal scan on Monday.

Thats great news Biccy, so so pleased for you. How far along are you now?

Hi all, just dropping by to update you on the dating scan last night. All was looking good, heart beating (apparently... scan was so quick I missed it), 49.1mm long, given EDD of 24 Jan (which is just 2 days earlier than by my dates). It was the same sonographer I saw when I miscarried in February, and it was really nice for it to be her giving me good news this time - even gave me my pictures for free! Of course I cried...

Hope you're all well and happy.
xx

Welcome Meanbean!

This is going to be my 5th month ttc, 2nd since finishing breastfeeding my first who will be 10 months this month. We have been trying to remain relaxed about the whole thing as there have been a lot of other things going on in our lives... but I honestly am so crazy excited for it to happen again for us!

I'm so excited to hear about your dating scan Biccy !! I know everything will be wonderful, especially when you get the see the one babe.

Let the nausea and morning sickness commence for you dalrymps !

Oh and af willno doubt be with me within a week but then let the practising begin

Hi, I'm new. I don't think I have any chance this month (missed ovulation) and I'm still breastfeeding so I'm relaxed about ttc for now but would LOVE it to happen.

Hi all...

Glad you're feeling OK Dalry

Let the games begin bringon !!!

Biccy lol at your neighbour! Best of luck with both scans! I'm sure everything will be absolutely fine. Keep growing that tummy!!

No news here... no sign of AF but after last month I don't even know when I should be expecting her!

REALLY looking forward to holiday next week! Hopefully some relaxation will help our case! Got my suitcases out already!

Hope everyone has a lovely weekend!

Hi bringon! Must be lovely having your hubby back.

I'm doing fine. Ridiculously big already (my neighbour asked me a couple of days ago if congrats were in order, and said she'd been wondering for about a month!

Have dating scan coming up on Wednesday, and have booked a private Oscar (nuchal translucency) for the Monday after that. Hoping both those go okay and then hopefully I can start to enjoy the idea of growing this new life (and growing this big tummy!).

Hey bringon! Glad your hubby is finally with you, let the ttcing comence soon!

I'm feeling absolutely normal i'm actually wishing for morning sickness so I feel pg!

Hey ladies!

The hubster is finally here! So happy!! Not much else news though. AF should be here next Wednesday, so roll on next month!

Hope that everyone else is doing well. How are you feeling Dalrymps? Biccy? PDR?

Hello all!

Sorry for being quiet - been quite busy!!!!

Dalry - so happy for you! Very exciting!!!!

We are still trying here... think we did it every other day around the time I should have ovulated so just waiting for AF to arrive sometime next week but as you all know, my cycles are all over the shop so could be next week, could be next month lol!

Going on hols 11-21st so no doubt AF will arrive then!

Fingers crossed for everyone still trying!

Thanks, yeah I showed him the test before he went to work this morning. He's really happy and a little shocked. Like me, he can't quite believe it!

Have you told dh yet?

Oh my gosh, I am so so so very excited for you Dalrymps!!! Congrats!

AF now officially 'late' and got a more definate bfp this morning

Yes, that's right!

Just worked it out (is it right you count 40wks from last af?), that's how I worked it out anyway... Would be 5th March due date

Looking good dalry. So pleased for you, I know the wait was really starting to get to you. Would this be a feb or march baby? Maybe like me you haven't worked it out, even roughly...

Did another cheapy test this morning, still a faint pink line but ever so slightly darker than the one yesterday eek.

omg dalrymps! a faint line is still a faint line! i am so excited for you!

sorry to hear that you're feeling extra tired biccy. but they do say that right around now is the time that the tiredness really cranks up a notch.... so symptoms are a good thing!!

only 4 more days until he's here! woooooooo!!

Thanks for the reassurance Biccy

To try and reassure you, I only felt sick till wk 8 and after that hardly fely pg at all but everything was absolutely fine at 12 wk scan. I know it's hard though, I never stopped worrying during that first 12 wks!

Hi all
I'm ok. Still feeling worried that something is going to go wrong... was feeling ok until I read a post from someone who'd been feeling really pregnant then went for 12 week scan and found out they'd had a missed miscarriage.

Really really struggling with the tiredness this time round. And I can't stand coffee anymore, so can't even perk myself up with that! Could try pepsi I suppose...

bringon, sorry you missed it this month; but it's very exciting that dh is arriving soon and you can really make a start on your new life. He'll be so looking forward to seeing you both.

Dalry, don't forget that it takes 48 hours for your hormone levels to double, and as it's early days they'll be really low, so even once they have doubled, they'll still be low... I imagine that's why your lines don't seem any darker.

Hey bringon, sorry your dh won't be there for ov. Hope the next month flies by so you can get back to it. Bet you'll be so happy to see him

Ok well, i've done a cheapy test last night and this morning. The one last night came up with a very faint line within the 5 mins and so did the one this morning. The one this morning is no darker though, about the same.

Now i'm a bit confused, I think i'll just have to wait and see. I have got 3 faint lines on 3 tests now but I won't quite believe it till I get past fri without af getting me!

Oh my gosh dalrymps !! I really hope this is it for you! You must keep us updated in the morning!

How are you feeling biccy ? Not much longer until the scan

Good luck with your 2ww JasHook !

Well, looks like dh won't be here for the action. Definitely ovulating now and he's not here until Saturday. Not to say that we won't be making up for the last month... but it won't be doing any help for ttc. Now I just have to wait another month, again! God, I'm so excited to see him again. I miss him so much so just getting to see him will make up for our month off of trying.

Goodness, just saw this pop in active convos for the first time in ages - Dalrymps, I've got my fingers crossed for you!

(I'm a name changer from the original wagon crew...sorry I can't give more clues away, but I did get my BFP on this thread!)

It was a tesco test. I have slighty tender breasts that seem a little bigger than usual and keep feeling really tired. Fingers crossed!

Oooooooh dalrymps I am so excited! I think if you read it at 10 minutes, and it said not to read after 10 minutes, then you have read it within the window. What sort of test was it? Will keep my fingers crossed for you.

Do you have some symptons - it's not like you to test early?

Thanks, hope it's not a false alarm so to speak

OMG how exciting i will keep everything crossed! x

Hi kitty and Dalrymps

CD20 now and into the 2WW...I have no patience at all!!

Hey kitty, how's it going?

My AF is due fri. I Did a test with FMU today and after 10 mins got a faint line.

Not sure what to think though cause test instructions said not to read result after 10 mins (it could have developed earlier than that but I went away and came back).

Gonna buy some cheapies and test again tomorrow I think

Hello

Very quiet here.....thougt i would pop in to see how you all are!?

Hi everyone, CD22 here. Not BD that much this month as we're having a more relaxed ttc month. We did do it around the crucial time though

I haven't had any definate stmptoms so far, have been feeling tired and yesterday I felt absolutely exhausted and a little naseous but i'm probably just imagining things.

Biccy - Easier said than done but try not to worry, my ms dissapeared at 8 weeks and I panicked but all was absolutely fine! Hope you get your scan date soon

Bringon - fingers crossed you ov late this month!

Jas - Hope your af has stopped playing games now!

Kazr - Great to have an original 'wagoner' good luck for ttc!

I know I keep saying it but this is our 7th month and I really want to get pregnant soon . Hopefully on the up side the longer it takes the easier it'll be to look after both the lo once baby arrives cause there will be a bigger age gap... If I am pg now it'll be 2.5 yrs gap so it'll be at least that much!

Hi all, just thought I'd drop by and say hello. Though this thread looks a little slow at the moment... are you all just too busy bd'ing?

I am doing ok, trying to hold the paranoia down. Symptons fluctuate, and there doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason to them (so yesterday I felt grotty all evening, but today it started mid morning went on most of the afternoon, then this evening I have had a spurt of energy). It's hard not to worry when you're symptons seem to be easing off, but I'm trying hard.

Booking in appointment with midwife is on Monday, and I should get a scan date then. They try and do an 11 week scan here, so not too much longer to wait, fingers crossed (am 8 + 2 today).

Well, hope you're all okay.

Thanks JasHook. Hope af gets her act together and sorts it out for you!

bringonthetrumpets yeah, I'm fine, just AF playing some funny little games I could have done without!!

Here's hoping you and your dh manage to hit the right dates this month.

Oh no, Jashook, everything alright?

Almost finished with af over here... according to the calender-I don't think dh will be here in time for ovulation Maybe this will be the one month that I hope I ovul. late? Guess we'll have to see.

Guh. My body really likes to mess me around.

How are all of you ladies?

welcome Kayzr, that's really cool that you were one of the originals!

Of course we want you to stick around Kitty! It's still fun talking about everything. Plus, it'll give your bod a chance to get used to not being on the pill. Much easier to keep track of your cycles and get to know them if you don't have to stress on whether it's a period sign or a pregnancy sign

Thanks. Is it still really addictive in here??

Congratulations Kayzr

Hello,

I am very tempted to join you as we might be TTc DC3 in September. But it isn't set it stone yet!!

I was on the first ttc wagon thread and I had the first wagon baby who is now 6 months old!!

I did find that last time we ttc earlier because I spent all day talking about it!!

So excited!!

Hi kitty ... of course we don't mind!

One of my close friends did exactly what you are doing - she and boyfriend postponed TTC after about a year of trying and went to work abroad....

Guess what? Their baby is due in August

Oh sorry bringon

so i am putting ttc on hold for a year. Even though DBF hasnt popped the question we have discussed getting married next June and have agreed to postpone ttc until then. I am not going back on the pill though.

Do you lovely ladies mind if i hang around even though not trying as i would love to hear how you are all doing?

haha, yes, well reunion sex was how dc1 was brought into our lives so we can only hope the same for #2 i can't wait to see him again! i think i ovul'd around day 16 or 17, so i think we'll just make it!

i suppose it's the best way to go about it dalrymps. no stress is probably better. hop to it though! sounds like you're getting close.

glad to hear af is on her way out PDR. then it's time for the fun stuff!

hope everyone is well. af is absolutely wretched today

Agree that reunion sex should do the trick .

AF almost but not quite gone so me thinks we shall be able to crack on with the games tomorrow!

Currently have man in utility fixing washing machine broke last week so will be merrily putting on wash after wash all afternoon lol!

Sorry to hear that bringon. Hope the reunion sex does it as biccy says. Fingers crossed for you!

Well, we're making a very poor effort this month. We decided to just relax about it for a bit so haven't BD at all yet .

Think i'm on CD13 today so will have to make an effort.

Sorry bringon, even though you suspected, must still be disappointing. What day did you think you ov'd last month. Reunion sex is sure to do it though, no? (Remember to tell him to 'relieve' himself a few days before you see him! )

Just as I suspected, no babies for me this month. Hopefully I won't be ovulating before dh gets here!!

kitty glad the scan results were positive!

bringon 27th June is a very good day - it's also my birthday! Bet you're counting down the days!!!

Dalry hope last night was the night!

Biccy hope the sickness is ok... I used to sip on some yummy apple and ginger fruit juice from Sainsbo's and really helped me...

My AF is almost gone... you'd think after such a long cycle it'd be really heavy but def not the case. Very odd. Oh well will start OPK-ing from day 10 so I don't miss ovulation this month! I really want to conceive this month so my DC2 will be same age as my best friend's! Sad I know!

My LO is having an extra session at nursery this morning so I have some time to myself

That's good news bringon, only a few weeks to wait!

Sorry about the tiff dalry - if it's any consolation we were bickering when we managed to conceive this one! Probably makes the sex better...

Am ok, sickness seems to have lessened in the mornings, but I now can't stay up at all after dd has gone to bed as I feel really rubbish later on. Really paranoid, don't want to feel yuk as I don't get anything done, but if I'm feeling ok I think 'oh no, what's going wrong?'.

Hi bringon, Yeah we made up but it was too late to BD oh well, maybe tonight instead!

Great to hear you have a date for your dh joining you! Hope you get a nice bfp surprise this month but if not i'm sure you'll be able to do lots of bd once dh is there

Oh bringonthetrumpets that is amazing news. Very excited for you!

Ugh, I hate when fighting gets in the way of bd, dairymps !! Hopefully you two were able to patch it up

Good news kittycatcat. It definitely takes a while for your bod to regulate itself after the pill. I was on the pill for 5 years at one point and it took a good 6 months for me to be able to reliably track my cycles again. Hopefully your cycles from here on out will be more regular for you!

Glad af finally showed for you polkadot !! Now on to the good stuff! Let me know how the OPKs go, I'm definitely thinking of buying a bunch for the next cycle!

So, that brings me to... well me. I think af is due on Tuesday. At least, it's been two weeks on Tuesday since dh and I were last together and I think I was ovl'ing. I have absolutely no signs or symptoms out of the ordinary and I'm pretty convinced that I'm not preggers. Buuuut, good news is that dh is moving to the states to be with us on 27th June!!! Yayyy!! So very excited about that, even enough to be okay with this month not being our month.

How are you feeling Biccy ? Hope the symptoms are easing up a bit for you!

Hi kitty, glad scan results were ok and that your body seems to be getting back to normal.

We're on CD 10 I think here. Supposed to be bding tonight but i'm tired and had a bit of an argument with dh so not sure if it'll happen...

Hiya

How is everyone? I am ok ta. My scan results are back and show nothing which is good. I had a normal AF for 3 dqays then it turned to spotting til about Thursday. Wierd. i am taking it as a positive sign - that my body is changing. It's only been 5 months since i came off the pill.

Hi guys, you are all very quiet at the moment... hope you are all ok?

Polkadot, glad AF arrived finally for you - it must have been doing your head in. Good luck with the OPKs, hope they can help you work out what's going on.

polkadot hurrah at last )))

Hi all. hope you are all ok x

Yes I am... think I was too late last month so will start testing earlier this time!

My best friend called at lunchtime to say she's preggers (only a few weeks)! We had our first babies within a month of each other so fingers crossed this is my month to keep the tradition going!

Lucky cow !!!

Ah glad to hear you're back in the game polka, that was a long one!

You gonna use opk's this time?

AF finally arrived last night so am now back to day 1

Was beginning to get a bit worried!!!

Hope everyone is ok this morning - sunshine has gone here - grey clouds are looming!

aw thanks biccy and dairymps i felt so stupid for doing it! but glad to know i'm not alone only a week left until af is due... hoping i can hold off that long!

sorry you're not feeling well at work biccy. it's so tough to focus when you're not feeling well, not to mention the fact that you're allllways thinking about the little babe. Sparkling water really helped me as well, plus I really had a thing for warm chicken broth for some reason. Hope that you can find your magic cure soon!

Hi bringon - Like Biccy says, I don't blame you for testing, I would probably have done the same. I have no patience and hate not knowing! Hope when it is time to test again you get a BFP!

Biccy - I sympathise with trying to work and feeling sick, I remember it all too well. One thing that really helped me was chilled sparkling water, although different things seem to help different people. I couldn't get out of the habbit anyway, I still drink it all day long! Only 13p a 2 ltr bottle at somerfield!

Hi bringon... can't blame you for testing, but as you say, it is too early really, but you're not bonkers because I am proof that you can get a BFP 7 days before AF is due; and if you're anything like me doing the test will have somehow relieved some of the tension and you'll be able to get through the next few days a bit easier.

Polkadot, your party sounds great! It was dd's birthday on Sunday and we had a little party too - Charlie and Lola decorated table, couple of games, party food. It was a really lovely day... and then she was up 5.15 on Monday 'to play with my new toys'. least she like them I suppose! Have you made an appt to see the doc yet? Maybe it's just your cycle settling down - it's only been 12 months since you gave birth, not that long really.

First day back at work today after my two weeks off (which was 19 days, as I only do 2 days a week); had forgotten how hard it is to focus when you are feeling all sicky, and dry mouthed, and generally like you had two too many last night. I suppose I might have to admit I'm pg and go and find an antenatal thread.... but I feel at home here and don't really want to go...

Hope you're all okay and feeling positive in the sunny weather.

ugh, i was really naughty yesterday and took a test, which of course it was negative b/c it's only been a week!

not feeling any symptoms at all. this probably isn't my month.

hope everyone is doing alright!

Hello everyone. I went to CD37 this month. Deffo gonna temp and use OV sticks this time. Started too last nonth but was quite busy so not always home at the same time.

polkadot how frustrating. Deffo docs me thinks. Just to be safe, and then sods law AF will turn up!

Sorry Dalrymps

biccy [hugs]

HELLO EVERYONE!

Sorry for being a bit quiet... had son's birthday party yesterday and the godparents stayed the night so only just got rid of them!

STILL NO AF! Given up on it so much that I even wore white trousers to the bday party !

Dalry - sorry AF got you - here's to next month though! Now you know where you are...

Jas -hope you're enjoying your 1st month fingers crossed for you!!

Biccy - no pill and no BF! In fact no reason at all for AF not to be here apart from the obvious and several BFN's seem to have ruled that out. Maybe the doc is the only answer. CD must be in the 40's now... Hope you are feeling alright still?

Bringonthetrumpets - the theme was "jungle" and there were lots of other babies around his age and a few 2/3/4 yr old siblings of said babies etc. T'was a lovely day thanks to the weather. Kind of went all out as I love "party planning" if you know what I mean. Would like to think I won't do this every year but I probably will .

Hopefully a baby shower will be next....?!!

Biccy somewhat delayed thanks for the welcome. Only just started trying this month!

Hey bringonthetrumpets, hope the 2ww is going well. Thanks for the sympathies

Biccy, ah that's interesting thanks. Was just looking on some american website that came up when I googled and it said 75% of people will concieve within 9 months. Well, month 7 coming up so here'r hoping!

Sorry you've had nausea, but glad you've had it too for reassurance purposes

Aw, sorry Dalrymps... I have a vague memory the average length of time taken to conceive is 8 months - it's just hard when it happened easily the first time, I was just the same, and had really psyched myself first time round for it to take ages. hrmph. [hug]

Bringon, I think it's Minnesota? Fingers crossed for you, that would really bring it all together for you if this was your month.

Spoke too soon about feeling fine - have been feeling nauseous almost all day... still, it's not that bad, and in a way I'm quite pleased to have some signs! I'm also really bloated, and reckon I look pg already , so hope that settles down!

Righto, better get the dog out to the park!

so sorry dairymps ! I was seriously rooting for you! Yes, pizza, chips and ice cream are definitely reserved for these sorts of things. Don't forget the wine/beer/whiskey as well!

That must have been hard Biccy seeing your friend. This little bean of yours is growing with all its might and will be that big before you know it. Glad to hear no adverse effects so far... hopefully they're only mild, if any. Although if you're like I was, you're happy to have symptoms just to remind you that you're still pregnant. That is so weird that your friend is moving to MN, btw. Of all places! Do you know where exactly in Minnesota?

Sorry you've gotten af kittycatcat But on the upside, once it's over you can focus on the next month!

Hope your dc's 1st birthday is fun polkadot! Is there a theme with lots of other 1 year old baby friends? Hopefully your af will show up soon. I hate that waiting in the limbo stage!

No signs as of now in my 2ww. But as I type that I just got a pang of a headache. I thought I was imagining some cramps earlier today... but probably was just that-imagining them. I think I'm already looking too hard. I hope I don't become all neurotic by the end of next week!

Well, Looks like we're in the same boat Kitty cause AF just got me too

Oh well, here's to the 7th month... I just wish I knew when it was going to happen, or if infact. Maybe I was naive but I never imagined it would even take this long, ds was concived without even trying!

Hey Biccy, sounds lie you're doing well. Must have been strange to see your friend and her being at the 'stage' you would have been at. I think it's only natural to have a bit of a wobble over that, I know I would have.

I'm sure your little bean is nice and snug and cosy . You're right not to worry about feeling 'fine', My sil never had any ms at all . From what I remember mine only lasted about 2 and a half weeks. I freaked when it went away but everything was fine

Well, i've consoled myself with pizza, chips and a mars ice cream.

Hello all. Sorry Kitty, I'm sure you must have been really hoping whatever weirdness was going on was something to do with being pg... maybe you could try OPKs (if you haven't already) so you can see if/when you're ov'ing... then you might be forewarned if it's going to be another long cycle?

Go my fingers crossed for you Dalrymps. Well done for not testing... I'm ever in awe of the non-testers out there!

Any news Polkadot? Have you just come off the pill, or recently stopped BF - or still BF? This is obviously not normal for you? If none of the above, and still no AF , and still no BFP maybe you could psych yourself up to a doctor trip...

How are you doing Viv?

Well done for making the trip home bringonthetrumpets... look forward to hearing how your 2ww goes! A friend of mine's sister is moving to Minnesota this week (she's got a baby and is due in a month's time with #2). Small world after all.

Hello Jashook - how long have you been trying?

Golly, lots of people to catch up with now - what a great thread!

Personally, I'm feeling fine, but I'm not worried at this stage as I didn't start to feel grotty until about 7 weeks with dd. Had a bit of a moment today when I saw someone I haven't see for a while and she was suddenly very obviously pg... she's due 2 days after my October baby was, and, despite having my own new little bean hopefully settling in, I was still hit by a wave of sadness at seeing what I 'should' be.

After my umpteenth trip to the loo i think i can safely assume she has got me. Is a little bit of red now too (soz for tmi). damn it. Oh well on the plus side i guess it shows the pill is on it's way out!

Thanks kitty I hope so too!

oh fingers crossed dalrymps i hope the bitch witch doesn't get you! x

Hey kitty, sorry AF seems to have got you at last, although at least you know where you are now and can start ttc again soon

I've just spent all today thinking 'I hope i'm pg, please don't let Af get me!'. Not due till tomorrow/sun though... Have felt a little naseous today after lunch again.

I have had a headache today though and sometimes I get one the day before . So for that reason I don't want to get my hopes up. I'm getting tired of being dissapointed every month now, it just has to happen soon!

Morning all

Gorgeous day out.

Thought AF had arrived full throttle yesterday afternoon but just a bit of brown.... same this morning. Will have to see if comes today. Have all the signs.

How is everyone?

Welcome Jas

Not sure about seeing the doctor - seem to be forever in there with DS (I like to think I am not a "worry-er" but it would seem I am!) and as this is the first time I have tracked my cycle I'm not exactly armed with much evidence.

Kittycatcat - At least we are in the same boat!

Just want AF to come so I can get on with next month!!! Pretty much given up on being pregnant this month now

Ah well have DS's 1st birthday party on Saturday so should be grateful for what I have!!!!!

I wonder if it's the pill saying toodles at last dalrymps? Me no like tho. Is messing with my head! Do i test again tomorrow or leave alone.
I am ttc dc1 aswell Jashook

Thankyou I'm not so bad today.

DC1 for me. And I'm driving myself nuts with it already!

Wierd Kitty, whats going on?

Jas - Welcome, always room for more

I am ttc DC#2, you?

Always welcome aboard Jashook. How are you?

This a pretty full wagon. Room for one more?

ooooo fingers crossed dalrymps
I did another test this morning. BFN. Confused.com I feel like i have AF, not in a cramp way, but like i can feel its arrived ifyswim!

Hey ladies,

CD27 here. Af due sat/sun. Felt quite naseuous this morning for a breif few minutes but feel better now have had breakfast. Is probably nothing and just me looking inti things too much. Fongers crossed though.

It can be possible polka but if you're unsure you could check with the doc as kitty suggests. I've heard sometimes ovulation can be altered by stress and therefore cycle length.

Crumbs polkadot i am on cd36 and thats tormenting me so i can imagine how you feel! Have you been to the docs?x

aww sorry to hear polkadot ! yeah, sometimes you just get one of those fluke cycles. hopefully af turns up for you soon so you can move on to the next one!

BFN... again....

Surely my cycle can't be 41 days long??!

Does anyone else have a really long cycle?

Hi all

Scan was fun. Thought i was going to wet myself. poss tmi! lol. The nurse said she couldnt see anything glaring at her and that my ovaries appear to be working fine. Hurrah.

Hey bringonthetrumpets great to hear from you. Must be strange eh.Fingers crossed for 2ww!

x

ooh goodluck polkadot!

VivClicquot - major congrats!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thinking about your wedding dress.... if you do decide to go ahead... I'm sure you could get it altered and let out at the back, no? Shame to buy a whole new dress? I managed to cram myself back into mine for "blessing ceremony" when about 5 months gone without any alterations but it had a lace up back which was helpful!

If not I bet there are loads of gorgeous maternity dresses - I'm thinking greek godess stylee ;)

As for honeymoon....hmmm maybe Thailand at 30+ weeks would be a bit of a mission if only because of the heat! I think technically they would let you fly but why not postpone for a year and go as a family when the baby is 1?

CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ps. STILL no AF here. Am going to do another test. Back later for results! X

Greetings from Minnesota! Feels so strange to be back here, you have no idea. I feel like I'm going through a culture shock and this is where I grew up.... very strange experience to say the least. Ds is 8 months and he did brilliantly on the plane. 8 1/2 hours and he didn't really cry-a little fussing but that was about it. The lady I was sitting next to is expecting a granddaughter in August so she was very happy to have some practice, she was such a godsent! My mum has gone Nan-overboard and my son is completely set up with anything could ever need. I think she's got enough nappies for him to last for at least a good 3 months. Lol, bless her, she's so happy we're here.

Dh and I had a fabulous last few days together....b/c I was finally ovulating! Yaaaaay! There was no mistaking that one. Twinge on the right side and plenty of ewcm (sorry, tmi but I'm very excited to be working properly again after finishing bf'ing!) So now we're in the 2 week wait. I know these two weeks are going to fly by but I'm already like....eeeeek I can't wait to test!

Anyways, that's me all caught up at the moment! So glad to be home to be honest!

Wow vivcliquot ! how exciting! That's awesome that you've just joined and already have a BFP! Really hoping it's the good luck charm for the rest of us. Maybe you and your dp could have a small wedding and then have a big reception once the baby is born so you could wear your amazing dress?

Hope the pelvic scan goes well for you Kitty!

Getting close Dairymps gosh, fingers crossed for you that this is the month!

Glad to hear you've had a nice holiday, complete with a new family member Biccy. Do you have any symptoms yet? 5 weeks is still 5 weeks, and that's still very exciting. I know this will all go perfectly for you and I'm just really happy for you and your dh!

DP was happy and excited and got a bit teary and just kept repeating, "But you told me it would take AGES for your ovaries to wake up after coming off the pill!"

I've just met him for lunch and we kept nervously giggling lots - but we decided we definitely want to go ahead with the wedding. Getting a new dress should be fine, right? And as for Thailand, who knows...! Lots to think about I guess!

WOwEE!!! Huge congratulations VivCliquot! So excited for you, what did your dp say??? <nosey>

If it were me i'd get a lovely preggers wedding dress and go ahead, it'll take twice as long to arrange once the baby is here! Not sure what you'd to about the honeymoon though?!

still very excited for you x

Hahaha since we got engaged, I have given my fiancé one job to do - sort out the wedding insurance. Six and a half months on and I'm still waiting for him to do it... (which also explains why he's only been given the one wedding job so far!)

We might be able to postpone, but I'm not sure at this stage that I'd want to? Guess it's something for us to talk about over the next couple of weeks.

A dress is just a dress, right?

*sobs at thought of the lost Ian Stuart gown*

eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee i dont know what to say. Can you postpone? Have you holiday insurance so you can postpone that too? Crumbs. x

Wedding date is 14th November - so rough counting on the fingers says I'll be 30 weeks by then. Oh my god. Oh my god.

OMG Vivcliquot that is amazing. HUGE congratulations )))))
Right, calming self down. Eek. When do you get married? Crumbs.

Morning ladies,

Well this could quite possibly be the most embarrassing entrance onto Mumsnet ever. Took a test two hours ago and it was a very very big fat positive.

Am in a total daze. Am over the moon but have a million questions running through my brain - not least what the hell am I going to do with my beautiful wedding dress. Or the three week honeymoon round Thailand for that matter.

So where the bloody hell do I go from here?!

PS i have my pelvic ultrasound today.

Hi Biccy
According to FF AF was due 24th.Did a test Tuesday which was negative. Was an internet one. The ones they say the NHS use - not bought on ebay if that makes ANY difference. I am checking constantly. What's going on? OUr bodys are cruel. I just know its going to turn up
And dog??? haha x

Hello everyone! Had a lovely holiday thank you. Did get back on Saturday, but been having computer problems, and also arrived back to discover a large black dog had arrived in our house for a week. (He's absolutely lovely, just one more thing to fit into the routine!).

I'm doing ok. 5 weeks today and doing pretty well at not thinking about it all the time. Still really trying not to think of it as real yet. I know I posted what the due date would be back on CD8... but I can't remember and have decided not to work it out again so I don't get a date fixed in my head yet. Feeling fine (other than my balance is off tonight, so I'm sitting on a level chair on a level floor, but I feel like I'm tilted!).

Dalry, I don't know whether you really had to 'stop', and couldn't find an answer... though I have to admit that I held DP off as I was feeling really paranoid that any bumping might upset my cervix! CD25 now? Ooh, I really hope it's this month.

Welcome viv, I agree with the others, I think it could just be a settling down after pill thing, but like you I always settled straight back into regular pattern after coming off, and the only time my boobs ahve ever been painful was when I was first pg with #1, so I'd do a test to set your mind at rest... if you are pg you may need to think about your wedding dress!! (But then, I am a serial ridiculously early and often tester, so maybe you shouldn't listen to me).

And hello tostaky, good luck with it all!

Kittycatcat, have you tested yet? How late are you? I always feel like AF is arriving when I'm actually pg (feels like it's coming, actually feels like it's arrived, hasn't, all this goes a way fora cuple of days, then starts again). I felt very pre-AF for a couple of days while I was away (did my head in!). Similarly PDR, what is going on?!

Thought I'd just mention also that I think those cheap tests you can get on the internet are not very good - they do show up a positive, but when I had a clear one on a boots test for the day of your period, a cheap internet 'early' (though not 'ultra' early) was so faint only a hardened tester such as myself would have spotted the line!

Bringonthetrumpets, hope you're enjoying your last night with DP for a while. Look forward to hearing about your trip.

Right, better go and check on the dog!

Welcome vivclicquot

Hello everyone! I am still waiting for AF - surely this can't be normal?! First day of last period was latest 17th April !!!

This is nothing to do with TTC but...

Having a hectic week as LO has "slapped cheek" although more like "slapped face, arms and legs" lol! Poor little thing has scratched one eye and one ear raw Took him to see nurse this morning as thought it might be something more serious but it's not.

Got cleaning company coming to blitz the house tomorrow and thank god my Mum has agreed to look after DS while I go to meeting in the morning - nursery said he could go in but he looks so poorly and just wants to sleep I couldn't send him.

Hope he's ok for 1st birthday bash on Saturday!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Good luck to everyone TTC tonight ;)

Welcome to vivclicquot and tostaky

Um viv i THINK that is normal but i would poss do a test so you know for sure. Your bod can take time to adjust.

Good luck ladies )

No news here. Still waiting for AF which i keep thinking has arriveds but hasnt. I know it's on its way. Grrr. TTC not going great Dalrymps tut. How are you? x

test!! test!! test!!


Im joining the thread as well a i have just stopped the pill three days ago and waiting for AF before TTC-ing for DC2...

Cant wait, cant wait!!!

Morning ladies

Can I join this thread please? Am 31, and came off the pill at the start of April, with the intention of properly trying to conceive baby #1 in November, after our wedding.

So, 43 days in, I still haven't had AF and my boobs are absolutely killing me - I keep telling myself this is very very normal and that my body is just readjusting after 11 years on the pill. However, when I've had breaks off the pill previously, I've settled back into a regular 30 day cycle right away.

So, do I test or not? Am completely new to all this so am not sure if I'm being mental already!

Hi everyone

Well i'm now onto cycle 13 AF arrived yesterday, onwards and upwards....

How is everyone else?

Hi kitty, how you doing with the ttc?

Hi all
Sorry to be quiet. hope Biccy is having a good hol. Wishing you a safe journey 'home' bringonthetrumpets look forward to hearing how you are doing.
x

ooh polkadot any news on af or symptoms otherwise?

i hope you're pg this month too dairymps !!

i hope biccy is having a lovely pg holiday! can't wait to hear how she is doing.

oooooh my goodness i'm leaving in 3 days. of course i won't forget you guys! i will be around 6 hours behind you all but will definitely still be on mumsnet oh yes, plenty of bd'ing we are doing. understand if it's not going to happen this month-it's the first one not bf'ing ds at all-but would be so amazing if it happened! not sure what cd i'm on and just trying not to think about it iykwim.

hope you all are having good weekends. x

Hey ladies,

How's everyone doing?

Polka - still waiting?

bringonthetrumpets - Wow, you must be just about to move now! Hope you ov before you go, I would do plenty of bd just in case . You must be so excited, don't forget us once you get over there!

CD22 here, I hope I am pg this month but don't feel it yet... Had a wave of nausea yesterday and this morning but it's probably me looking foe signs iykwim. Will just have to wait and see I guess!

Sill waiting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hey guys, really sorry I've been AWOL lately. Been super busy with trying to say goodbye to friends and family here as I'm moving in 5 days!

God, how so very annoying Polka!!! I hate when AF doesn't show and you keep getting negatives. I had the same thing with the last cycle and it was doing my head in. Fingers crossed for you that it's just a late implantation! I agree with Dairy-probably just wait a few more days (as if you haven't waited enough already, huh?) and then test again.

Ooh, Dairy, in the 2ww now! I reeeeeeally hope this is your month! Fingers and toes crossed for you as you really deserve another little cutie!

So far, I have absolutely no idea where I'm at in my cycle-which is probably good b/c it's one less thing to worry about atm. I think I haven't ovl'd yet.... but praying that I do before I leave as I won't being seeing dh for at least 6 weeks . If this month isn't the month then I'm really hoping all the making up we'll be doing in July will be a good result!

Ok will wait........... !!!

Hmm, I would wait if 2 bfn's, maybe leave it a couple of days ans see where you are then? The waiting is agony though!

Well it's a possibility I guess!

Just did another test and BFN AGAIN! I am only using crappy tests which came with OPK from eBay... maybe they are no good?

I have a feeling if I fork out for "proper" test AF will arrive !!!

Will wait until tomorrow to decide on further action.

What would you do??

You think there's any chance you could be pg polka?

Morning!

Still no AF

According to Fertility Friend I am CD33 today

Have never taken that much notice of my cycles so not sure if this is normal for me or not!

Ooh, exciting polka! The not knowing either way is hell though isn't it! What CD are you on now? How long is your cycle usually?

STILL no AF..............

Keep popping to the loo just in case lol! My colleagues must think I have the runs - or just plain lazy!!!!!!!!!!!

I want it to come now so we can get cracking next month!

Thanks polka, I hope so too! I got my positive OPK in CD15 so I think I ov on cd 16-17. When I did a month of temping ages ago that showed I ov'd on CD17 too so that must be pretty normal for me

We've got to BD again tonight then one night off then once again. Does anyone know what you do after that? It says to just 'stop', does that mean no more BD till AF due?

Hope it works this month, actually quite exciting knowing when i'm about to ov!

Hope your AF stays away!

Dalry - hope last night was the one!!!!!!!!

No sign of AF here yet...should have been here yday if my calculations are correct.

Will just keep waiting! I guess my cycle could be longer than normal?

Have a good day everyone. I am working later but might pop back.

Eh?! I swear i've posted on this thread twice and the post has dissapeared . where did it go? Off to bed now so i'll have to post again tomorrow. Got my positive pok yesterday so bding tonight

Have a lovely time Biccy

My pok today was slightly darker again, yesterday the line was really faint. I haven't had a positive result yet according to the instructions. CD14 today, bd scheduled tonight

I'm really sorry polkadot, I was really hoping this was going to be a lucky month for everyone...

Well, this will be my last post for a little while, as we're off on our travels in the morning, and there's loads to do tonight.

So, I'm looking forward to getting back and catching up with you all.

Have a good week!

xx

Sorry it was bfn polka, fingers crossed for next month...

awww sorry polkadotrachel i hate when you're so certain and then get a negative.

BNF

Control line is really strong and absolutely nothing else!

Oh well - maybe next month Must make more effrort!

Will wait for AF to arrive..........

Afternoon ladies!

I am just about to do my first pg test! Wish me luck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Back in 10!

Hi ladies,

Biccy, glad you're still getting a BFP and that it came up quickly, fingers crossed!!!

Yes, i'm still on the plan . Cd13 here, managed BD last night and am just off to dip my stick this very minute!

wow biccy that is really really exciting! just really happy for you. hope this is the one. haha, dont' think the rare steak will affect the bean. that actually sounds really good right now--yes even at 11 in the morning!

hopefully you just missed the actual surge and not ovulation polkadot. your big #3 is coming up so fingers crossed for you that this is it! yes, i know exactly what you mean about leaving the house with a little one. i aim for a time that is about 15 minutes ahead of the actual time i need to leave as i know i will surpass it! the rain covers for buggies are great, but what about the poor person pushing the buggy?

packing, hmm, funny you should mention that biccy b/c i haven't packed a thing! oops. it just seems light years away still-instead of 12 days. so many things going on during these last two weeks that i haven't even started to think about it as i'll start crying! i'm trying to see friends and dh's family as much as pos.....besides, most of the stuff we're bringing we use day-to-day so will definitely be very hectic the day before we leave! we're only allowed two suitcases so i have to be very brutal as to what i can bring for ds and myself. sigh i'll think about it next week

Biccy I am SO pleased for you!

Nothing to report here - no AF either tho!

Will do test tomorrow but still think it's highly unlikely to be positive as think I missed my ovulation this month. Still - I am waiting for my 3rd dose of good luck so never say never!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

By the time I did the OPK the line was already quite faint and didn't get darker at all so must start testing earlier next month [reminds self].

Off to mother & toddler group this morning - am hoping it doesn't rain as I'm going to walk and there's no undercover buggy park. This will do doubt guarantee it pours down! Think of me!!!!!!! Those TTC #1 you have all this to come! Leaving the house is often akin to a military operation!

Thanks kittycat and rtuff - and thank you for the Deanna plan!

Did First Response last night and that came up BFP really quickly and clearly, so looks like there really is a potential bean in there Can't take it in really - and am obvioulsy in denial as I went and had steak last night - rare.... hope I've not ruined it all...

Told dp last night and I got a peck on the cheek then he went back to Doctor Who. Guess he feels it's not worth getting too excited about it yet. And he's right. I have decided to think in small milestones - first one is to get past AF date. Then I'll think about the next.

How's things? How's the packing bringonthetrumpets, and are you still on plan Dalrymps*?

*Polkadot, any news?

oh biccy thats brilliant news. HUGE congrats Will keep my fingers crossed!

Congratulations Biccy, Brilliant news!!
Right thts it i'm off to the shops to spend all money supposedly for maternity clothes on normal clothes!! It seemed to work for you!! Also now thinking is day 20 too early to test???

How is everyone else today???

omg! how very exciting for you biccy !!!!!! i really hope this one sticks for you!

Ah I see, i'll look out for mine getting darker then. Yeah we've kept up with the timetable night off tonight, on again tomorrow night. We're on CD 11 at the mo.

Thanks polkadot... I do admire your self control. Wish I had some!

And to think I was congratulating myself on here earlier for putting those tests back on the shelf at Boots....

Hi, the first two OPKs were really faint, then the next was darker, then the next was dark, then the next was faint, then it was gone.... it never got absolutely as dark as the control, but almost - I think it really is a brief window when it peaks, so if you tested a couple of hours before or after you might a different level showing up.. so I just worked on the basis that the peak must be the positive. That worked ok as the peak happend on a due day for BD, so when the next day one was fainter we just got on with it again! Not very scientific I know...

Hope it will give you some hope.. am sure you will be much more self controlled and not test so early though!

It is exciting, but I know I need to try and keep quite cool about it, as it is so early. Can't rule out that it might go negative even before AF is due. That's the downside of knowing so soon isn't it? Still, I am still glad to know we are getting the sperm to meet the egg! It's really all we can do - the rest we just have to leave to nature.

Have you kept up with timetable so far?

Biccy

SO pleased for you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Very exciting! Fingers crossed for you!

Nothing to report here!

Off to bed!

Wow Biccy, thats VERY exciting!!! I have all my fingers and toes crossed that this one will go all the way for you .

Have you told your dp?

This gives me hope that Deanna might work... I have to say I find the ov testing a bit weird, I kind of don't believe i'll get a positive result on one. Feels like i'm testing for something that might or might not be there iyswim. If I do get a positive opk it'll be weird to actually know i'm about to ovulate! Did your opk's get increasingly darker over the days or just dark one day?

Eek, I can't believe you got several BFP's!!!!! SO so pleased for you!

Hi Dalrymps - glad there's another faint line.. I found it really weird, I have to say.

but.. I have been a naughty girl... CD22...

had some cheap internet tests in my drawer and just couldn't resist tonight and what do you know? A very faint BFP. Really faint, but undeniable when you're as experienced as me in these things!

Decided it was daft, must be seeing things, got out a Boots one I had that you're not supposed to use until AF is due... and, erm, BFP on that one too. again, faint, but undeniable.

There's going to be no holding me back from those First Responses when they arrive.

I am incorrigible. Really not a good role model! There's such a high chance it won't go very far .... I just have this huge desire to know. So, I'm just hoping that these test showing up BFPs so early is a positive sign that I've got lots of lovely HPT and maybe it's going to really happen this time.

Cheers to Deanna, whoever you are!

Me me, I'm here!

Did my 2nd opk today, still just a faint 2nd line, will keep going.

How are you?

Hello... anyone there tonight?

yay well done biccy! trust me, i've done it faaaaar too many times.

wooo hooo! girls aloud concert tonight! loads of drinks with the gals and then lots of lovely drunken bd'ing with dh when i get home. should be a fun night he won't know what hit him.

PDR, don't see it like that - had you benefited from that you'd have had your 3 bits of good luck... this way, you've got one to go!

Faint line is good Dalrymps I'm sure, shows something's going on, even if you haven't peaked yet... bet tomorrow's is a bit darker.

I am feeling very proud of myself. Having ordered 2 First Responses this morning, I found myself in Boots today handling a pack... and managed to put them back and walk away ! Hurrah! Is obviously still too early to test, even with one of those, but was soooo tempted. Silly I know, but I'm really pleased with myself for resisting.

Biccy according to FertiliyFriend I am CD26 today - no sign of AF but have not been v regular so she cannot be trusted ti turn up on time lol!

I think if still nothing on Friday I will do a test - have LO's swimming lessons on Fridays so AF is bound to turn up just to make things more complicated!!!!!!!!

Good luck has ended.

Just got email saying all Heathrow Airport Parking is now 20% off. Booked 10 days parking yesterday so am now £20 out of pocket. Pretty sure I said "no marketing emails" as well so I should never have found out! How annoying! On the other hand, if anyone needs airport parking - book now!

Yeah an POK day

Yeasterday's pok was a faint 2nd line which is classed as negative according to the instructions. Was only CD10 though..

I hate the way pmt is the same as preg symptoms too, how are we supposed to know?!

Oh, and I'm really aware of my boobs today... but again, that could just be pre AF stuff. I really hate the way so many early preg symptons are really just the same as pre-menstrual symptons.

Hi all.

Is it an OPK day today Dallrymps?

Glad everyone is feeling positive. I don't know if I'm feeling positive, just really really hoping this is the month.

PDR have you managed to stay away from the tests so far? Must be CD27 for you? Am getting all jittery for you!

Symptons: mild cramping yesterday and today (today is CD22) and really irritable.... but

skin is dreadful, which I take as a pre-AF thing, and so could the grumpiness be...

so, positive symptons neutralised by negative ones.... still no intuition either way.

Ordered my First Responses this morning

sorry rtuff totally forgot to mention, that's awesome that you've got such a great opportunity! NY is so beautiful!

yay for opk testing dairymps !! hopefully that smiley face/second strong line will come up for you quickly ! i've been interested in these, so you'll have to keep us updated on what you think.

rtuff we are moving to minnesota. it's where i grew up and where my family still is.... so i'm so positively excited to go back home!!!!! i miss them all so much and i'm so looking forward to the nice warm summer they have going on there!! ahhhh, 2 more weeks.... i really hope this is your big month too! i'm getting just as excited for everyone on this thread as i am for myself. with anyone else i think i'd be really jealous of a bfp-but with you guys i'm cheering you all on!

polkadotrachel congrats on the big wins!! a new slide sounds lovely. perfect for the nice weather we've all be having lately. one more big thing waiting to happen for you, hope your bfp is it!

Hello everyone - Rtuff and Dalry I'm feeling very positive today as well!

Not only did we win the (charity) lottery jackpot on Saturday, I just picked up "special delivery" letter from the Post Office and low and behold, LO has won 1st prize in the photo picture wall competition on the Children's Mutual website! If anyone else has their CTFs with them - give it a go - £100 vouchers!

If things happen in 3s what more is to come?????? --A new baby-- ???

Think I will get him a slide for the garden

Dalrymps - the minute you stop thinking about TTC it will happen - as if by magic - this happened to two of my friends.

Rtuff - possible move to NY sounds very exciting! V !!!!

I'm feeling positive too rtuff

Although I seem to have got in to the 'zone' where I'm not really expecting it to happen this month iyswim cause i've thought it would previous months and then been dissapointed.

Now i'm just kind of regsigned to keep trying month after month till it finally happens but am quietly confident it will happen at the same time iyswim.

Sorry i'll stop babbling now!

Bringon That sounds very eciting where in the states are you heading to? DH and I have been having the "lets move to the states" converstaion for the past year now, and a job position has just come up in New York so some serious thoughts going on about it now...

Well i am officially on the 2ww now had my smiley face day on Saturday, so twiddling my thumbs now, BTW I'm already symptom spotting!! Far to early i know!!

How is everyone today? I'm in a positive mood today, but give me 10 days and you'll all have to hold me back from POAS!!

Ooh, it's my first day of opk testing today, quite excited

Ah, that sounds like a very interesting job too .

Hope your ears get back to 100% soon...

Hoping your dh has done the washing up!

Hi everyone!

I am an administrator in a hotel but since coming back after mat. leave I have also taken on the events (weddings, private punctions, the odd conference) side of things... It's great when you get a nice couple but there are some who want champagne for the price of OJ if you know what I mean!

Would much rather be a photographer though!

No more symptoms I'm afriad but no AF either and the way my cycles have been, she could appear at any time lol!

Ears are feeling better but still can't hear 100% (beginning to forget what that felt like to be honest!) but will finish the course of antibiotics...

Am just having a bite to eat (rather eat here than at home!) then off to the madhouse! My mum has been looking after LO this morning so hopefully my DH will have done some washing up etc

Biccy - It was scheduled with his full knowledge and consent . I told him we are doing the deanna plan this month and showed him the opk so he has been briefed. He was a bit on and off in the early days with the 'don't tell me cause it ruins the spontinaety' etc etc but now he's fully 'on board'

Good luck with the early testing . I'm sure the fact you have spent your maternity budget on non maternity clothes must mean you'll get pregger this month

Oh before I go... here's my latest technique for getting pregnant... I've spent the money I was saving for maternity clothes (on non maternity clothes). Surely that's gotta do it!

Hi everyone, just checking in.
Dalrymps, did DH know BD was 'scheduled'... or was it your secret?

I'm starting to think these chaps who don't want to know all the details are being a mite selfish (my dp being one of them, not necessarily yours of course!). I'm sure it's a bit different for them, as they may feel too much pressure to perform, which may result in no performance, but, you know, I was thinking about all the ladies on this thread and other similar ones on here, and on other forums as well, who are all consumed by this lark - counting days, trying to engineer sex at the right time, trying not to test etc etc... and I thought, why the hell should he not know, seeing as how he is as keen as I am for us to be adding to the family! So Wednesday's try was done in full joint knowledge that that was probably my last fertile day of the month. Anyway, just a little rant...

PDR... are you still feeling sick? How's those ears?

bringonthetrumpets, thank you for your support of my early testing justification theory! I am really trying not to sympton spot, and honestly I don't think I really have any symptons. Thing is I've conceived 3 out of the last 7 calendar months (not including this month), and I think that means 5 or 6 AFs (as Chemical Ps and MC reduced the number), so I think I'm starting to lose my ability to spot any difference between normal and pregnant - as being in the very early stages of pregnant has been becoming 'normal'. IYSWIM! Anyhow, am only CD19 - but I know I will not get beyond Saturday in terms of waiting to test (holiday or no holiday!).... am already desperate! If I succumb to any ridiculously early testing I will ofcourse update you on any 'I can see a line if I hold it up to the light and squint and bend the stick a bit' type stuff!

But surely you have started your double-buggy research by now...

looks like tonight is the big night dairy. hope you have fun!

anymore symptoms polkadotrachel? how are your ears doing?

biccy i would totally do the same thing! absolutely justified early testing. that holiday sounds like it'll be lovely! i know you're about a week away from testing, but have you had any symptoms worth noting?

welcome to the thread rtuff ! may your ttc journey be a quick and pleasant one

only 17 days until i leave for the states. still currently dealing with af... so that leaves 2 weeks for dh and i to do the deed and hopefully i'll be heading over as a knocked up lady i have to go over with ds about a month before dh so that i can get ds's naturalization process started... and dh should arriving mid-late june once his visa is all finalized. so much going on! oh, haha, made the mistake of talking to my mum about potential baby #2 and she's already looking at double buggies! i was like, let's take things one step at a time,mum, pleeeease!

What is it you do polka? I'm guessing wedding photographer although I could be wrong!

Best of luck Dalrymps !!!

Managed to get everything done in a couple of hours at work this morning so was home before LO woke up from his nap!

Bad news is I have to go in tomorrow as well for meeting with shitty lovely couple for wedding.

No rest for the wicked!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Morning ladies,

Polka ans kitty, hope work flies by today!

1st bd scheduled for today

Hey polkadot i am in work too today
Hope your anti b's work this time!

Morning all

I think I am CD22... too early for pg test right?

I'd be pretty surprised if I am pg as not actually tried much tbh! It's probably just a tummy bug - tho haven't actually been sick - just general feeling of nausea all day!

Am now on 3rd course of antibiotics for ear infection! GP said if I am still feeling unwell or haven't regained normal hearing in a week I need to go back and she will refer me to see a specialist !

Hope everyone has a nice weekend! I have to go in to work for a few hours tomorrow

Hi Rtuff and welcome. I too am frustrated - been trying for #2 since October, dd will be 3 at the end of this month and I really empathise with not wanting the gap to get too big - I was hoping for a 3yrs ish gap, but obviously that is looking more like a 4yrs ish gap now. Hey ho. People who know the situation remind of the positive side, as in you get more time to yourself with your newborn (as no 1 is at pre-school / school) , you don't have 2 in nappies, etc etc.. there are 3.5yrs between me and my sister and we are very good friends, and always have been!

I am busying myself mentally with my 'when to test as will be away from dp when AF is due' dilemma. Am currently thinking I may order a twin pack of First Response tests from SME (£7.99 for 2 I think) and allow myself to test a week tomorrow morning, as that is the day dd and I go away for a week,and CD26. I just feel that if I am PG, I'd like to tell dp in person... and know that if I'm late, given how regular I am, I will be very suspicious, and won't be able to not tell my parents & sister who I will be with. Hmm. Am I just justifying testing early?!

Better go, dd downstairs, and gone rather quiet...

Thanks Rtuff

Ooh exciting polka, where are you in your cycle?

I have felt sick today but have just finished AF so can't be pg

Mmmm... I have quite bad nausea this morning... possibly related to ear problems but could be a sign?

Thank god my LO still takes long naps as if I move an inch I think I might throw-up!

Here's a bit more info on it...

www.getting-pregnant-fast.com/vitex-agnus-castus.html

My little boy is 3 in July and was hoping to keep the gap in their age quite short but not all going to plan but hey ho!

Agnus Castus is a herbal remedy that is supposed to help with conception there was a thread a little while back on it http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/conception/622405-i-think-i-love-agnus-castus

Good luck everyone!!

Hi Rtuff, of course yoy can join, more the merrier!

I'm on my 6th month and am frustrated so you have my sympathies! I'm gonna try the deanna plan this month, 1st bd planned for tomorrow . I already have one ds 18 months, so this will be our 2nd too. How old is your lo?

Best to click on 'watch' on this thread as sometimes we have quiet periods but you'll see if anyone has posted in 'threads i'm watching'

Welcome Rtuff. Good effort this month, fingers crossed for you. How old is dc1? What is agnus cactus? I have just started using OPK's and haven't recorded ov yet

Hi everyone,

Can i join??

Been trying for 12 months now for #2, so to say i'm frustrated now is an understatement, although i am feeling very positive this month, i've started taking agnus castus and am also trying the Deana plan so far we have bd on day 8, day 10, day 12, day 14 am now on day 15 and still waiting to ovulate which last month was day 16, so fingers crossed!!

bringonthetrumpets glad the weaning is going well

hi all. Glad it's Friday. I am off at 2.30 to book pelvic scan at Queens, then going to see my Nephew x

Ooh, exciting! I hope so, sooner rather than later!

aww thanks dairymps. really hope we can support each other with newborns soon!

Aw bringonthetrumpets - It's great you've managed to get down to 1 bf a day with minimum fuss and even better ds has taken to bottles with ease. Can understand your mixed emotions though . Just keep reminding yourself of how well you've done for him. I'm sure he loved the bfing but will get the same comfort from cuddles with mummy. If you're lucky you'll be bfing the next one in no time at all

Oh no, sorry to hear about the ear Rach. Those are the worst!! Hope you feel better sooon!

Kitty-awesome news on the bloods! hopefully the scan will go well for you as well!

Biccy- sending a speedy 2ww your way! Sounds like you got loads of time in the bedroom, fingers crossed for you that one of those lads has met your lady in waiting!

Dairy- I would definitely count Sat as day 1... then you can get onto the fun stuff sooner.

Ugh, feeling very "period-ish" atm. Now she's here and I'm already looking forward to her departure. I hope this is the start of regular cycles so I don't have to go through that whole ordeal again! We're down to only one breastfeed a day and it doesn't seem like ds minds at all. He's very happy with the formula and doesn't mind bottles... feeling a little bittersweet that he's not bothered by the fact that he's not being offered boob anymore. Oh well, part of him growing up, I suppose.

Hi all!

Nothing to report here I'm afraid, have not had the energy to "try" this the past couple of days as currently suffering from 2nd ear infection this month!

Have not regained normal hearing from the 1st one so am off to see the doc tomorrow! Maybe need ear syringing (sp?) or something.

I would count it as day 1 Dalrymps

DB questioned my nornallity! haha

Bringonthetrumpets - Glad Af turned up at long last, now you can get on with bding

Biccy - Sounds like you've had a good ol shot at it, hope it has worked! Fingers crossed for you

Kitty - Glad bloods were all normal

On CD 6 now so saturday is the night to start all over again. Got my opks, they arrived quickly.

I am a bit confused though (again!). My Af started on sat night at about 11pm so i've counted that as day 1, is that what you ladies would do with it being so late in the day or would you count day 1 as sun?

Hi Biccy oh no, are you ok now? Not sure re bloods just called and all normal. Hurrah, going to book scan tomorrow.

Bringonthetrumpets that's fab news *high fives*

I have only managed one OPK cos of being on a course and out and it was negative.

Hi bringonthetrumpets, glad AF arrived - hopefully this cycle will be a bit shorter for you!

Stopped doing OPKs now, as they peaked on Saturday, managed BD Sat/Sun/Mon/Weds, so, fingers crossed something's afoot inside me now.... all I can do is wait. Fortunately got loads to do before we go away next Saturday, so I'm hoping I won't go too mad with the wait this time.

DD is desperate for a baby brother or sister - last night she was very definite she should have a sister!

woooohooooo! finally got AF. Never thought I'd be this excited to see her... but at least I know that my bod is sorting itself out.

How is everyone doing?

OPKs Biccy and Kittycat?
Af on her way out and onto more bd'ing dairymps?

welcome play ! The more the merrier

Thanks Kittycat.. sorry you've not been able to get going this month yet, that's a bit problematic for you both given your current aim... am assuming you've tried the usual tricks...

I think we ought to be giving it our last try tonight (it gets very confusing when you BD in the morning... we managed Saturday morning, Sunday night and Monday morning, with the OPK having peaked on Saturday. So, I think that means we ought to try tonight as it won't happen in the morning, I have to leave too early for work!!)...

but, we had a row earlier this evening, and I'm really not sure I feel like going to all the effort of getting us speaking again, and then trying to seduce him as well. I think he has been really out of order and I don't want to back down just because of the TTC thing. He has made me a cup of tea this evening, which may be his way of admitting he's soooo in the wrong!

So, I think tomorrow night will have to do.

Have you got your scan date sorted? And do you know when you blood test results will be in?

Hi Biccy
DB is darling boyfriend. I am CD14 today, i think. He has a problem releasing shall we say! So Deanna says start day 8 every other day, then on day 10 start ov sticks. You try every night for three nights ONCE YOU OV IS POSITIVE,skip 4th night, go again 5th night, then stop. so you only stop after your ov has turned positive. If you dont get a positive you keep going every other day til day 35..... eeeee. Hope this is making sense. I am also a tad confused. My friend said if you have long cycles like us you are bd every other day for a very long time til you ov!? Then you take a pg test on day 15 or 16. Here's the link again if i am making no sense which is highly likely www.pregnancyloss.info/sperm_meets_egg_plan.htm
Hi Dalrymps doc hopes scan will show all is ok, he is just covering all angles. Bruising is lovely from blood test [hmm}
Hope everyone is ok xxx

Biccy - Thanks for the link . I'm unsure as to whether you're supposed to stop completely? Will have to try and do some research...

Have ordered my opks

Kitty - Sorry the blood test was horrendous . Wonder what the scan will show?

Kittycat - what is db? Sorry, have just had an afternoon glass of wine and can't think... . Where are you at now?

Deanna going ok, don't think I've got it 100% right, as I think we started trying a day too early, but, OPK was positive on CD12(well, it seemed to peak, but I shall do another later this afternoon just to be sure) and managed BD on 12/13/14 so I'm hoping we've hit the right time. Only time will tell.

Do you know if you are really supposed to 'stop' completely? Seems a bit weird - what if the OPK was a red herring...

I think it's about time us lot had some good luck, so am trying to stay positive. Am also a bit worried about becoming totally obsessive about the whole thing, so not sure if I will carry on with OPKs next month.

bringonthetrumpets Grrrr re BFN [hugs]
hope the weaning goes well.

Dalrymps grrr re AF

playftseforme welcome. Sorry to hear about your mc. The ladies here are lovely

biccy how is Deanna going? I didnt get to start thanks to db

Hello to all, sorry if i missed anyone, hope you are having a lovely bank hol we. I had a blood test fri which was wholly unpleasant. I have thin veins and it took 3 nurses and 4 needles! I ended up in tears. I went to docs fri as pre AF i felt horrendously sick and also had spotting a few days after AF stopped. It's poss just my bod getting used to coming off the pill but he wants to be sure. I have to book a pelvic scan too!

Just a quick note as dd is being very very needy at the moment (it's driving me nuts actually, 'mum', 'mum', over and over and over). Anyway, I think if you get a positive you just get on with it, so yes, you may do 4 days in a row - I think it's just about being sure that sperm meets egg! Here is the link that Kittycat sent me to www.smefertility.com/discount-ovulation-tests-149-c.asp for cheap OPKs - they came overnight! Right, got to go...

Thanks ladies, I hoped it was an implantation bleed when it arrived but it's too heavy for that now

Playftseforme - Sorry your af turned up, it's so dissapointing and frustrating isn't it. Maybe we should all get on this deanna plan and get those bfps . Fingers crossed for next month. Stay with us

I like the sound of the deanna plan although i'm a bit confused. If you're doing it every other day from CD 8 but then your pok shows you're ov on a day you're not suposed to be doing it (ie you just did it the day before) would you then do it on that day? Surely if you did that you'd have done it 4 days in a row? <confused>

Think i'll give it a try though once that bit has been explained. Where do you get the cheapest opks?

Got five days booked at Center Parcs around the time I should be ovulating next month (two weeks from now in theory), so I'll definitely give the Deanna plan a go (dh a bit upset today too - I think he thinks it reflects badly on him but he's not talking about it - so I'm sure he'll be up for it )

Hey, Dalry & Playftseforme, Kittycat put me onto the Deanna plan (by accident as she thought I was doing it)... so I'm giving it a go. In a nutshell you start trying on CD8, and do so every other day. Start OPKs on CD10. Try on the day you get positive OPK, and for the next 2 days, then a day off, then one more try, then stop. (not sure if you really have to stop for 2 weeks, that bit is a bit unclear...). Apparently it doubles your chance of conceiving. Feels a bit clinical, but worth a try?

Thanks Biccy

Oh, Dalry, I'm sorry... that is early. Defo AF? No chance of implantation bleed? Sorry, I'm hopelessly optimistic (oops, just noticed how paradoxical that is).

Hi playftseforme, welcome - not intruding at all. I also had a MC (at 7 weeks) in mid Feb... trying again now, currently on CD13. Excited and scared at the same time and dreading the wait for AF. It's terribly disappointing when it arrives... I've cried every time since starting TTC in October (except the months I've had BFPs of course), you just invest so much emotion and energy into trying & hoping. Here's a hug. Hope you feel better in the next couple of days and looking forward to starting again.

Apologies if I'm intruding, just got AF today . Feeling a bit down about it (although completely over the top). Had an early MC in feb, on an antenatal thread back then under a diff name. This was our first month trying again, so not sure why I'm surprised that no BFP this month but hey no.......

I'm sure you'll be hearing from me again.....

Ooh good luck with your pok's ladies

I'm afraid AF got me, 5 days early back to the drawing board I guess...

PDR is cool - unless it's an acronym for some awful disease

Thank you PDR (can I call you that?), sounds hopeful on your OPKs now... hopefully we'll both be seeing two lines on a different sort of stick in a couple of weeks or so... xx

*Both !!!!*

I have just done OV test (only just got chance!) and there is a very very very faint second line so hopefully will be darker tomorrow.

Thank god! I'm sooo tired I don't think I'd be able to do "it" tonight. Will have to muster up some energy to fend off DH though!!

*Good luck* Biccy!

OPK update: OPK I did at 4pm yesterday afternoon was 'almost' positive (as in the line was only marginally fainter than the control), today I did two, one at 2pm, then one at 5pm, and each one is progressively lighter again. So, should I take it that I have had my LH surge (either a bit before or a bit after I tested yesterday) and am therefore at peak fertility tonight? (I think you are supposed to be at peak fertility 36 hours after your LH surge, so that would be the early hours of tomorrow morning... what to do... go for it tonight, wait 'til the morning, both?!
I'm really not sure if this is helping, or just adding to the stress as have felt very grumpy this afternooon (but then I think I do get grumpy around OV time).

How's everyone?

Biccy - yes I think they mainly drink goat's milk so that's why she's worried but they're going to Zante which is tourist central so they probably have the Daily Mail and Fish & Chips (she says being wildly stereotypical having never actually been to greece!)

Thanks for the advice Biccy. It's something that I've hoo and hummed over for awhile and I think it's just time for us to wean off bf'ing to be honest. Thanks as well Rachel. It's been lovely and amazing and I feel actually very happy with the decision to wean him. I know I'll still get loads of cuddles and this way dh will be able to settle him down for bed....since I think he was starting to rely on me to settle him. It's just for the best. Plus.... now I'm frrreeeeeeeee!!

Yep, yet another BFN. Dh has promised to try tonight though. Yipee! Haha, like I had to convince him, but the fact that he actually said "we should try tonight, what do you think?" is quite cute!

Glad to hear you two are getting control lines on the OPKs. Maybe I should get some as well, since I can't seem to find satisfaction with peeing on hpts. Lol, just need to see that elusive, damn second line!

sorry to hear you had a bad first experience, rachel. it's a shame that there isn't more support out there re: breastfeeding. it's such a learning experience for both you and the baby that it can take quite a while to get the hang of it!

Oops, just re-read those figures, and realise it is 1.18m, not 11.8m cattle, so, erm, cows milk may be a problem - give there's so many sheep and goats. Hmm... I wonder if they import.

Evening all; OPK update: stronger line, but still not a positive. Am already feeling a bit bored with the testing rigmarole (sp?) so hope it will cure me of my early pg testing habits!

PolkaDotRachel, I haven't been to Greece since I was about 22... but apparently they have 1.18 million cattle, 8.3 million sheep and 4.6 million goats and they certainly make cheese from cow's milk, so I would guess it's available... ?

I am still doing to OPKs daily but nothing yet... the control line is there so they are working!

Since giving birth my periods have been all over the place - even had two in January so I'm probably way out with my timings!

Bringonthetrumpets - you certainly have given your LO the best start in life - well done you! I tried and failed to breastfeed my son (couldn't get him to latch on and not much support until it was too late) so he has had formula since he was about 1 month old (I gave him EBM for 1 month).

If I ever conceive (!) I really hope I can BF DC2 as it's one thing I think back on negatively with DS1. Luckily now I have loads of mummy friends who are breastfeeding experts and so if I do have trouble I have the support I need!

Anyway, slightly off point but has anyone been on hols to Greece as I am trying to find out if *full fat cow's milk* is readily available for my friend who is going on hols next week with her DD (13 months). I have posted in "travel" but everyone is ignoring me

Oops, crossed posts. You could be though couldn't you, as you might have ov'd at any time...

Hi all, bringonthetrumpets, just in case you'd quite like to carry on mixed feeding (and you may not need to drop breastfeeding entirely in order for AF to get back to normal), I just wanted to say that you can get past the biting thing. They don't mean to do it, it's just the teeth were never in the way for them before, but they can learn to bf without biting. dd got her first teeth at 5 months, and I breastfed to 20 months. You have to scream in pain (well, don't over do it, but don't try to muffle any yelps), removed them and turn away from them for a minute. Then put them back on. dd soon got the message and sorted it out.

OPKs going alright, only done 2; the line was imperceptible day before yesterday, yesterday definitely there but much lighter than the control, so a definite negative.. I am really grumpy today, and it's CD11, so I'm hoping to see something positive tomorrow, although technically still a bit early, as it's always easier to BD at the weekend than during the week....

thank you kittycatcat.

was thinking of buying some cheapie tests as well, you can never be too sure! there's always that little voice in the back of my mind saying "welllll, you could be pregnant...<snicker, snicker> "

Thank you Dairymps. It's much easier getting a little encouragement as dh is very happy to leave things the way they are (he kept asking last night, why formula ? Can't you just keep expressing?) I'm off to buy my first container of formula today....

Well done bringontthetrumpets that's a brilliant effort!

Bringonthetrumpets - You really have given him an amazing start. A lot of people introduce formula after the 6 month mark, it's a difficult decision whenever you/or the lo decides. I'm sure it won't be as hard as you think. He'll soon be running round without a care in the world being a mischievious little toddler - like mine!

Oh and OUCH at the nipple! Thankfully I never got bitten as ds didn't get his first tooth till 10months and I didn't bf past 5 (I had a LOT of bf probs). Hope it heals soon.

you are not alone biccy and dairymps. it's an art, ttc. you have to come across as lustful to your dp all the while really wishing you could just go to sleep and hoping he doesn't notice there is a pattern to the days you bd.

how are the opks going for you biccy and rachel?

still nothing. have fully decided that weaning ds completely off breastmilk is the best thing (and not just to have another babe). he's been biting-with his one tooth and has broken the skin yesterday. i'm really patient with him and most things in life really (except for when it comes to af showing up...) but having a sore nipple is not something i'm willing to put up with. he's almost 8 months so i've really given him the best start in life that i can and i suppose he's on to a new and more independent life of his own.... [this is me trying to rationalise this out again i never thought it'd be so hard!] so working on cutting out breastfeeds and getting him on to formula and solid foods. wish me luck!

Biccy - I'm the same, if we weren'y ttc we don't generally do it this often so it's difficult sometimes trying to work up the energy. That said, I do always enjoy it when I make the effory

Haven't goffed again as yet, CD23 here, wonder if we'll fit any more in?

Dalry, sorry you've been too tired - I was only thinking today 'oh god, where am I going to get the time & energy to persuade DP every couple of days [and every day round the fertile time according to Deanna] whilst also keeping up the pretence that this lust is not just due to TTC )(sorry but with the general tiredness thing I just wouldn't have the energy for it this often if we weren't TTC). Really keeping my fingers crossed for you this month.

Oh, and, reading the Deanna plan, does anyone know why you are supposed to actually stop trying after a certain point? Is it so you don't aggravate your cervix while a possible bean is trying to stick - I'm really intereted to know this, with my recent history of unsticky beans

I am also definitely not going to assume that if I don't get a positive I haven't ov'd, as it seems a bit hit and miss whether you'll manage to hit the right bit of wee on the right day to actually see anything. So, my plan is to try them this month, if I get a positive then obviously really try to go for it that day, if not, just gof every couple of days anyway (if possible!).

Yes, I read to not pee for 4 hours and do the OP in the afternoon - so I am desperately hanging on now, as I should be home and able to one at about 5pm, so don't want to p until 1pm, so that I can hopefully last until 5. Ha ha. This is great new game... love it!

Hi ladies, nice to see the thread moving a bit quicker for a change

Cd21 here, haven't goffed for a few nights due to general tiredness, last goffed on fri which was CD 16 so hopefully we have covered the 'fertile phase' for this month, unless i'm a late ovulator

Probably squeeze a couple more in for good luck before af is due, just in case

I really hope it has worked this month, guess I hope that every month though! Getting really broody now, was thinking about when ds was younger and when I was pg last time, lovely memories

serge !!? god, where have my brains gone this morning?

surge

Wow! I can't believe you haven't been able to receive your ds's birth certificate! That's shocking!

We've actually been really lucky on the time frame, actually. We hired a lawyer in the states to help with the case and according to things I've read, it's cut the time in half (so f'ing expensive though!) It took 2 weeks for me to get a 2 year visa to live here.... and it's taking almost 2 years for my husband to move to a state in the US that's the same size of the entire UK. Doesn't make sense, but so glad it's almost over!

Yeah hopefully you'll pick up a serge this afternoon!

yeah and not to drink or pee for four hours before i believe.

Not sure why my last post is there twice?

Sorry

Oooo maybe try again this avo then!!!

Can't believe it's taken 18 months for your DH to get green card! That's shocking - feel so sorry for you - waiting is such a pain! It took the High Commission in Nairobi 1 week to issue my DH with a 2 yr spouse visa and things in Kenya usually go at snail pace so we were v surprised!!!

We are still waiting for the Kenyan High Com in London to send us DS's Kenyan birth cert (he is 11 months old and we applied straight after he was born! )

Oooo maybe try again this avo then!!!

Can't believe it's taken 18 months for your DH to get green card! That's shocking - feel so sorry for you - waiting is such a pain! It took the High Commission in Nairobi 1 week to issue my DH with a 2 yr spouse visa and things in Kenya usually go at snail pace so we were v surprised!!!

We are still waiting for the Kenyan High Com in London to send us DS's Kenyan birth cert (he is 11 months old and we applied straight after he was born! )

sorry to hear no positives on the OPK rachel . I think I've read somewhere that you want to test in the afternoon as that's when the surges tend to happen...

ovulation

Hahah, it's alright everysinglestar I had to do the same with you! I'm originally from Minnesota and that's where we're moving to. We've been dealing with my DH getting his green card for the past 18 months and we're finally in the home stretch. We got married in Oct 2007 and naively thought it would be a piece of cake for DH to move over (he's British). I just came here to visit him in Dec 07/Jan08-so DS was a huuuuuuge surprise! I went back to MN to finish my degree.... graduated May 08, moved here that same month, had a baby in Sept and now a year later we're moving back to MN in 3 weeks. Phew, it's been an insane past year to say the least!

Now we're, insanely for some reason, TTC #2 (as if our lives aren't crazy enough already). I really would love DS to have a sibling close in age so that's the new "project" atm

How did you and your DP meet? I think it's awesome that you both get to have babies!

I did my first OP test this morning - nothing... though I have about 50 so I'll try again tomorrow and the next day... etc!

Ooooh Mel what part of the states are you from and where are you moving to? We plan to move back to the States when DC is 1, presuming he/she is conceived straight away in August . How are you finding the whole process?

<restrains self from asking Mel a million questions>

breatheee

Hiya ladies. Apologies for not being on lately. Was taking full advantage of the nice weather last week and have been sorting through everything and getting ready to pack up the house this week!

That's awesome that we've got new people! Welcome polkadotrachel and everysinglestar !! I'm excited to have a fellow American on as well as fellow members who've immigrated. Yay!

Oh, right. I'm Mel (bringonthetrumpets) I'm 23, dh is 33 and we have a son who's 7 months. We've been ttc for around 2-3 months. Still no sign of af... it's been, oh, around 45 days since I've seen the likes of her around here! Maybe if we're lucky I'll just magically ovulate before we move and get pregnant and it'll be a fabulous welcome to the states surprise. One can only hope...

Oh biccy that would be so awesome if you conceived straight away! Awesome news on the OPKs coming quickly. Hopefully you won't have to use them

Haha sounds like everyone is getting mama-brains around here. You don't even want to get me started on the stupid things I've done lately!

Goodness that was quick - ordered those OPKs yesterday and they were on the door mat when I got home this afternoon! Wow. Think I will do the first one tomorrow, as I thought I OV'd early last month. Am going to treat it as an experiment in how well I know my own body...

Hee hee... we will never be the same again - I think the thing about mummy brain that is most annoying is how you are so used to the way your brain used to work that you still rely on it working that way - which just makes it worse!

Ha ha love it

I also have funny story (can't possibly be pregnant yet!) - must be mummy brain (I have not yet recovered from first pregnancy - not sure if I ever will!)

I looked at invoice for aforementioned holiday in July. Gulp. It's quite expensive which I knew but even more expensive than I had thought. I looked again and I realised there was no "10% discount" which we were promised by agent (worth about £200 so not small change)

Furious I rang travel company and ask where discount was, I was put on hold as man tried to see what had happened.

In the meantime, I turn over the invoice and shock horror there is a second page which shows the discount (actually 15% which is more than I though!).

Obviously I could not admit that I am a stupid fool so when the man comes back on the line and asks me if there is a 2nd page to the invoice, I lie and say no "there must have been a problem with the printer" !!!!

He was very apologetic and put another invoice out in the post.

The poor bloke!

focl. hehe.

Thanks for clearing all that up, EverySingleStar, shall look forward to hearing how it's all going.

Fancy an amusing sympton spotting distraction?

(Obviously I can't possibly have any symptons but...)... my brain is jelly... just tried to file a VAT online and thought HMRC had removed my online filing registration without sending me a paper copy. Panicked (deadline is Thursday and it takes 7 to 10 days either to re-enrol online or get a paper copy), called the helpline... told they couldn't talk to me as I'm not a Director of the company... theysaid gently 'are you sure you don't have a different log in for VAT?', I swore I didn't.... they said there was nothing I could do without a director (one currently in China, the other in Derbyshire).... I panicked some more... and then it came to me, the different log in for VAT.. the one I've used 4 times a year for the last, ooh, 6 years or something!

That's it. Defo up the duff.

That sounds like a good plan everysinglestar good luck, i hope it all goes according to plan

Rachel Oh right! LOL - do I sound like a twat for assuming he was American?

Ok - to clear up - partner is a she, I am also a she, (double checks), and she will be getting preg the first time (hopefully if all goes according to plan!). We are using a donor that we have met but is not going to be involved and we have never known prior to this.

We decided on her first simply because she is older hehe , although I will be aiming to have DC2 by the same donor in 3-4 years' time (to which donor has happily agreed).

Hooray Biccy! Green & Blacks all around I know you all are going to love me.

EverySingleStar no my DH is from Kenya! We did live there for a while but when I got pregnant we decided to move to here.

I think one day we will move back, but probably not until the children are done with school as private schools in Kenya charge is US$ and we would not be able to afford the fees. Also healthcare is pretty expensive unless you have insurance from your employer. Great place though! Esp for hols!!!

Yes we are planning a small gap! Although not as small as some!!! I am still young so I would like to have my children now and once they have started school I can concentrate on my --lack of-- career!!!

Ok, ok... yes, in the unlikely event that I have already OV'd, then baby was possibly conceived last night... did have very tingly boobs yesterday, and felt like I OV'd around this time last month, so you never know. But I don't think so. but was good practice!

EverySingleStar - I'm being dense and am a bit confused - is your DP a she? If so, can I ask you really annoying questions, like, is it you that is aiming to be preggers, and how did you decide between you?

Ooh, everysinglestar, do you mean your dp is a she? If so it's great to have you on here, great to hae a bit of diversity!

Hope i've got that right?

hehe gotya now

Hi Rachel! Is your DH from the States as well? Which bit is he from? I have always been an Anglophile and came over here straight after graduation, but we are planning to move to the US in 2 years after my leave to remain is up. The US will be our permanent home - we both like the school system better, more family over there, and younger family, iyswim. Good luck and congrats on your little boy - trying for another one early!! We want at least a 3-4 year gap.

kitty Mine's actually a she , bear in mind so am I so it does get a bit confusing.

Biccy Oh come on, do spill. I want to know if baby was possibly conceived

Hi everysinglestar I'm Rachel and I'm also new to this thread.

I'm 24 and my DH is 34 and we are have just started trying for DC2. We have a son of 11 months.

We got married in 2007 and my husband is on a 2 year spouse visa and he has to apply for PLTR in September this year.

My DH likes living in the UK but still gets homesick and missed his family a lot. We are going back for 1 week in July to introduce our son to his family. We have waited this long becuase he needs extra jabs which were not recommended under 12 months.

GOOD LUCK in TTC

Well, EverySingleStar... that would be telling...

Men eh. i cant wait to get married. All i need is that all important proposal. How long have you been in the UK? Do you miss America?

kitty It was a necessity really - I'm sure DP would not mind us never tying the knot, but due to visa issues it's now or never!

everysinglestar Congratulations on your upcoming wedding. Hurrah. I am desperate to get married, hate not being able to control that!

Hi all! Thanks for the welcome. I'm American so we're going to visit family in the US and also I will be getting my 2-year visa (starting in the form of fiancee visa) as DP and I are getting married in early September

I'm really looking forward to it - I'm from Kentucky and the weather is already stifling there, bring on the sunshine! I have a younger sister who is just turning 13, so we plan on taking her lots of fun places like amusement parks, water parks, a 'lost river cave' a few hours away, etc. etc.

Did you get to do your BD last night Biccy? Congrats on your first DD as well! And Dal congrats on your little boy! Kitty we are in the same boat then getting ourselves into this whole parenting business, good luck to you! Hope everyone is lucky this month---fingers crossed!

Hi everysinglestar, and welcome! That's very exciting that you've decided to TTC soon. Where are you going on your month long holiday? Am quite at that!

I'm 34, DP 36, been TTC #2 since October last year, so I think this is our 7th month of trying (well, 8th technically I suppose, as I had my coil removed in September, but it was day 14 of my cycle, so I don't count that month!). dd is 2.11.

My plans for tonight are not looking too good - DP is fast asleep on the sofa - I am waiting for an ebay auction to end in about 20 minutes. And by then, I'll probably be too tired to want to wake him up!! Still, it's only CD7, so I probably don't need to worry too much. In fact, just recently we've been like proverbial ships and just don't seem to get to spend any time together, which isn't conducive to TTC without saying 'it's time, come on'. So, I need to roll out some serious romance I think!

Bringonthetrumpets - any sign of AF yet?

Hi everysinglestar

I'm Dalrymps, i'm 27, dh 28. Currently on our 5th month of ttc dc#2. We have a ds of 18 months. Welcome!

Hi everysinglestar, welcome aboard. I'm Cat. 33, DP 28. TTC DC1. This is our 4th month i think, but the first one where i intend to temp and use OPK's. Good luck, hope you get a quick BFP As the other ladies will tell you we are a slower thread but there is always someone around so add us to 'watch'...Where are you going on holiday? A month sounds like heaven!

Hello! Can I join? I'm 22, DP is 24, and after our month-long holiday booked for July we will be TTC Baby #1, hooray! Thanks everyone!

hehe, i am hoping this is the discipline i need too....

Ok, that was pretty cheap, thank you - have ordered some... I did think I ov'd pretty early last month which was unusual (we weren't actually TTC so it didn't matter), so maybe this is a good idea, don't know... maybe it will cure my obsession for testing for something! Hopefully by the time I'm into the waiting period I'll be so sick of p'ing into a cup and dipping in a stick that I'll resist the early pg tests!

you can get cheap OPK's on the internet...

www.smefertility.com/discount-ovulation-tests-149-c.asp

i think i am OVing but not sure so gonna temp and OVtest this month and see how i get on.

How distressing for you i hope a bean sticks soon [hug]

Hi Kittycat, I had never heard of the Deanna plan, but it looks like quite a good one - although I'm not sure about spending money on OPKs.

We have conceived three times since starting to try in October, so it seems to be hanging on to the beans that is my problem, rather than making them in the first place. Is the Deanna plan meant to help with that too? I may have a peek in Boots tomorrow and see how much the OPKs are..

.. but I was really planning just to BD every couple of days from about now, and try and hit it when I feel I am fertile (I think I'm quite good at telling now).

How about you?

Hi Biccy are you doing the Deanna plan? I have been looking at it. I am CD6 and trying to fend of DB til Wed, not sure if we are a bit early in TTC for Deanna? And my cyle is 31 days, so would mean ALOT of BD.

Hello, how's everyone? Am starting to feel quite excited.. CD7 here so almost time to get on with it!

Ooh, thats an exciting claim to fame

thanks dairymps. i'm thinking of just not counting anymore, it's only added to the anxiety.

here's a fun little fact. rocky and bullwinkle are from my home state of minnesota lol just heard that while ds was watching the cartoon.

Ditto Darlrymps sorry bringonthetrumpets [hugs]

Oh bringonthetrumpets! Sorry it's a bfn . In that case, hope AF turns up soon so you can carry on ttc. Fingers crossed for next month!

just as i suspected... BFN. ugh, this is so frustrating! hopefully this is your month ladies b/c it definitely isn't mine!

Oops i GOT.....not git....

I git AF Wed, and Fertility friend recorded me as CD1....CD31 was Tuesday - the last day before AF...

I think CD1 - Cycle day 1 is the first day of your period.... Ladies is that right? I have only just got my head round CD myself. Have you been on fertility friend polkadot? it's fab. Here's the link www.fertilityfriend.com

I think it's the first day of your last period till the day before your next one

Can anyone confirm when you start counting your cycle from? The first day of your last period until the first day of the next one?

kitty - Ah I see! Thanks for clearing that up, I kept wondering why all the ttcers were going on about drinking grapefruit juice , maybe i'll try it. I already drink a lot of water, I always have on cup of tea with breakfast then drink sparkling water all day. I'm actually addicted to sparkling water ever since I was preggers with ds!

Bringonthetrumpets - Wow CD40 hey! Hope it means something good, don't know how you've heald off from testing! Oh and you are not a freak!

Biccy - Hope the book is good and you don't have to get up in the night to pee, I hate it when that happens!

Well, i'm off to bed soon

Wow, BringontheTrumpets, I do soooo admire your resistance to testing, more freakish than your 40 day cycle imo! I will defnitely be checking in for a report tomorrow!

Thanks for tips re water and grapefruit juice - am off to bed now with a pint of water and a good book (I'll blame you lot if I'm up all night weeing!). Don't worry, only CD3 so good book definitely a better bet than DP tonight! Ha ha.

Heya bringonthetrumpets whispers ooooo i hope its more than that ;-) ......
Starting to get the hang of all the jargon now. And have worked out i have 31 day cycles.... not sure if that is good or bad.

hiya ladies. been absent for a while as I feel like a <whispers> a freak. Currently on day 40 of my cycle with no af in sight. It has got to be because of bf my son. Haven't taken a test in a week so guess I'll check again tomorrow and expect to find another BFN. the cute thing is that dh is getting much more into having another one and is the one that suggests testing in hopes of a positive. .

hope everyone is doing well... and doing it often

i THINK it thickens the EWCM! Aha;

Another way to improve your CM quantity is to drink enough fluids each day. Water is the best type of fluid to drink and you should drink approximately 10-6 oz. glasses of water per day. Besides drinking water each day, you should also drink grapefruit juice. The components of the grapefruit juice will aid in helping to produce extra CM which will in turn help you in your conception endeavors.

I've heard of people drinking that, whats the reason behind it?

Am drinking grapefruit juice, not as bad as i expected. Wonder if a small glass a day is enough?

Ah I see, not heard that one before

Cd 15 here, gonna try a gof tonight... Trying to eat (mostly) healthy stuff at the moment to see if that helps.

Falls of chair laughing = FOCL hehe

Yup. am ready to go.

How is everyone?

focl?

Sorry AF got you at least now you've got all the equipment to go for it next month

AF got me.

FOCL hehe

go kitty, go kitty <shakes pom poms>

I have just ordered some OPK's and cheap tests,and a thermometer, oops, and have signed up to the fertility friend web site in full. DB isnt going to know what has hit him this month

I sometimes put a pillow under my bum afterwards!

Hehe. I have heard that too. Legs on a pillow!

This may sound odd but when we were trying for DS1 someone told me to stick my legs and bum up in the air after the deed... just to give gravity a helping hand. Swimming uphill must be quite hard! !

Hi all

Welcome back Biccy

Welcome Polkadot. Congrats on your DS.

I am on my 3rd (i think) month of trying although not entirely succesfully I thought i had it this month, but caved and did a clear blue last night, so just waiting for AF now

x

Oops, I meant a month 'off' trying.. as opposed to the very different state of a month 'of' trying.

Hi polkadot, of course you can join!

Yeah, i'm still trying to figure out how to get my ds to eat any significant amount of food and he's 18months! Don't want a big age gap though so we're going for it. This will be our 5th month of trying I think(keep loosing count). Hoping it happens soon!

Welcome

Hi Polkadot, and welcome! We are not quite as fast and furious as some of the other TTC threads, so if you haven't already, click on 'watch' at the top (just under where is says 'Mumsnet Discusions' and then you'll easily be able to find this thread in 'threads I am watching' and see when someone has posted. Congrats on your little one (I don't think you ever really know what you're doing, because they just keep changing, you just get a bit quicker at adapting, and more confident that you'll be able to find your way)... and good luck with TTC #2.

Here's me: TTC#2 also, since September/October. Just had a month of trying, but up for getting on with it again now!

Hi all, I am new to MN but have posted a few random things on other boards - mainly AIBU or questions about my DS (11 months nearly).

We are TTC number 2 from now on!!!! Still attempting to figure out what I'm doing with DS1 but do not want a big gap between the two if that makes sense!

My cycle has been somewhat irragular since DS was born so I have bought some cheapy ovulation test sticks from eBay to give us a sporting chance of hitting the right time of month!

We conceived DS at the first attempt on honeymoon but who knows how long it will take this time !

Can I join you?

Hey Biccy, Welcome back on the wagon, I too am feeling more broody each month. Had to pop in to our local clinic to swap a stairgate today (long story) and there was some kind of baby group on. Couldn't stop myself from grining stupidly at all the little floppy headed newborns . I am also stupidly excited about having a bump again. I want to get pregnant!!!!

Welcome back on the wagon btw

Hi all, how's things? Sorry you've been poorly Dalry, and fingers crossed for you this week Kittycat.

Well, CD1 today and DP said a couple of nights a go 'we really ought to get on with it oughtn't we?', so I think that means I am officially back on the wagon as a TTCer, now trying for a baby due on January 26th. Am trying not to get too excited, but just can't help myself. I am actually feeling broody now, rather than just feeling like it's now or never, and I'm hoping, ridiculously, that that will help somehow!

Hope you're all ok.

Hi Dalrymps
Nausea has all but gone now, never thought i would be sad to feel well.
Glad you are feeling better now. Fingers crossed!

Hi kitty

Had a lovely relaxing weekend thanks, you?

Your symptoms sound promising, guess as you say all you can do is wait and see... Don't get down about it, there's every chance you could be as a lot of symptoms don't get really established till after af time anyway

Fingers crossed for you!

CD 12 here, managed a gof yesterday and Cd7, would have fit another in but we've both been feeling crappy with a virus. Feeling better now though, feel quite optomistic and excited to be in my 'fertile phase'. Well I am according to all the websites anyway...

Hello

How is everyone? Good weekends?

I felt sick all day yesterday. I have had a feeling of nausea on and off for about a week now, but it was bad yesterday. Have also had a cramp in my thigh, and pains in the ovaries area. I got my hopes up. But today it's faded quite alot and AF is due Thurs or Fri so i will have to wait and see :-(

x

evening all.

Dalrymps: thankQ so do i. shall keep everyone posted if i get/notice any symptoms.

thanks for the advice biccy. it first returned when ds was around 3 months old. they haven't been regular at all though (they never really were before ds either tbh). i'm not getting my hopes up. i know he's only 7 months old and i've got all the time in the world to enjoy all of his yummy-ness before another one could be on the way. also very good point about moving.... would be pretty shitty to be pregs now and have to be apart from dh again (was 6 months preg with ds before i moved here to be with dh).

i've told myself that i'm not going to test again unless my nips hurt while feeding ds, as i heard that's the main symptom of bf women. no sore boobies yet

hopefully your pmt isn't too bad and af will come and go quickly for you. then it's time to jump back on your dh the wagon

Hey everyone

Kay - Hope the magic was done on dc14

Biccy - Glad you're feeling good, hope the PMT monster doesn't get you.

bringonthetrumpets - Hope you are pg but don't want to get your hopes up so maybe I should say, hope you find out either way soon, the waititng is a killer!

Kitty - Sorry you've felt so tired, hopefully it's a symptom. With regards to testing, it's best to wait till af late for a more reliable result but I know what it's like when you have to know! I usually wait till af is at least due as i'm scared of a cp happening, I want to know the bfp really is that iyswim. I am a serial tester though

Well, CD9 here, managed the 1st GOF of the month on CD7, giong for every 2-3 days approach again. Trying to relax a bit more about the whole thing this month now there's no deadline. It's my 5th month of 'proper' trying, I think . Hope it happens soon!

Well, First Response is the earliest, up to 6 days before your missed period, so 5 days before you are due - so if you are due on 23rd, you could try on Sunday 19th... but they are expensive, and there's only something like a 60% chance you'll get a BFP that early even if you are pregnant. So, I would wait if you can (ha ha, says she, serial early tester!!). If you are going to test early, best do it first thing in the morning, as highest concentrations of HPT then.

Hello

Here i am!

I am sooooo tired this week. I had the week before easter off and a nice relaxing time so am really struggling to get up in the mornings.

I dont seem to have an appetite at the moment if you get me, which isnt a great help. I felt really irritable last night to so evertime db touched me he got his hand tapped away. Tut. Must make more of an effort.

Out of interest when is the earliest you can test. Do you have to wait until after a missed AF?

x

It would be lovely if our nTTC month turned out to be the ONE... but I really don't think it will have happened... we were pretty careful up to this week and I really think CD20 would have been too late. Plus I'm telling myself I'd really rather not be due between Christmas and New Year! Good thing is I can't see DP being hard to persuade into 'trying' again next month!

Hmm. How soon did AF return after having DS BringontheTrumpets? Has it been regular up to now? I breastfed dd to 20 months but AF remained regular - but then it was 6 months before I got it at all, so you are probably best off putting it down to that and not getting your hopes up. Trying to think of positives for you... and coming up with easier to move across the atlantic if you are not starting to feel yucky! You could order some cheap tests from the internet - you can get 10 for about £7... that way you'll make yourself wait until they arrive (probably Monday if you ordered today), and will be ready for next time if you find you don't need them?

nope, no sign of af, Biccy. i've had two BFNs already so pretty convinced it's just b/c of my breastfeeding ds. even after the two tests i'm still very and am trying to talk myself out of buying more tests that will end in vain. dh inquired about af, tonight actually, remembering that she was due to show up on monday and said "maybe you're actually preggers" bless him, he doesn't know what comments like that do to a girl! so.... here we just sit and wait.

wouldn't that be absolutely fab if your month of Nttc was your lucky month! very good to hear that things feel more settled for you though. hopefully pmt won't be too bad... and yes, irritation is completely justified when it comes to men and games!

oooh please don't get me started on bump envy. i try so very hard not to stare at all the lovely bumps that seem to be coming out of the woodworks now that spring is here. i miss being pregnant so much! tonight it really hit me how quickly the little babies grow up! ds is going to be 7 months on sunday and he's working SO very hard at crawling. tis like he just woke up one day and grew about 2 inches longer, grew some muscles (and teeth! his first tooth was visible today!) and just got to be OLD. he's absolutely hilarious though and so fun to watch!

how goes it dairy, kitty, and kay?

Hi all, how's everyone getting on? Any sign of AF yet, BringontheTrumpets? And how's the bump envy Kay? There's somebody at work at the moment who has a bump, and while I don't begrudge her her baby one iota, I still find it hard when confronted with a bump not to feel sorry for myself.

Overall, I am feeling pretty good at the mo; hormones seem to be in a much better state this month than of late - expecting AF on Tuesday, and would normally have had some horrendous PMT symptons by now, but no.

I had one moment of feeling cross when I was trying to work (my usual Tuesday night slot for my main job) and DP was, unusually, at home, and insisted on playing Goldfrapp very loudly, so I couldn't concentrate. I ended up trying to work on my lap on my bed.... still, I held it down, and my irritation soon dissipated and I managed to keep it to myself. It's even possible that irritation about that was totally justified without having to blame it on PMT?

Anyway, feel more sane than I have done in a long while, what a lovely feeling... and it must be communicating to DD as well, as we are getting along fine again, thank goodness.

Right, well, no doubt now I've written that PMT will hit me like a steam train tomorrow...

Hope everyone's ok.

afternoon all. hope everyone is ok.

here's an update about me:
i am now on CD14. hopeing there is a chance somthing might happen after last night , but not sure anything has cause i haven't noticed an ovulation on my FC again . today i am feeling pritty . so thinking i might stay indoors.

awh thanks kittycatcat. I absolutely love London and I still get all (more of a wooooow!) at the history and culture that's tied with the city every time i go. Lucky gal to be working in Covent Garden!

we're moving to Minnesota, which is my home state. I've been living here for 1 year (more like two if you add up all the visits and 6 months study) while dh's visa has been going through the works so it's been a very long journey. it's so crazy to think we've actually made it to the finish line!

but of course i will stay on MN! you gals keep me sane

in the ttc department... af is one day late and i'm resisting with all i've got to not test b/c i know that it'll be a bfn and the tardiness is probably a result of feeding current ds the boob juice and not from a new dc on its way. nearly sent poor dh's head rolling down the hall last night so it's most likely pre-menstrual.

how is everyone else?
really good news on no deadline dairy! hopefully that will work in your favour!

Hi all

Nothing much to report here.

Hope you are all well. Sorry AF got you Dalrymps but good the pressure is now off.

Great news re the Visa *bring on the trumpets*I work in Covent Garden, London is fab isn't it. I sometimes think i take it for granted as i work here!

Kay4MattTTC - 16, TTC DC#1 NOW
Heebeejeebee - 36, TTC Now afer 2 mmc
OhSnap - 27, TTC Now
Dalrymps - 27, TTC DC#2 Now
Claire236 - 31, TTC#2 now
Kittycatcat - 33, TTC DC1, AF due 23rd/24th April
LaTourEiffel - 32, TTC DC2, CD26/31

Hi all! Well, we made it to London and it was great. Really good to get away actually, and have a change of scene. Feel really refreshed. Just getting ready to go out and enjoy the sunshine here, but thought I'd pop in.

Great news Dalrymps about losing the deadline - bet it happens straight away now you don't feel under pressure to do it! And wow BringontheTrumpets that's amazing. Whereabouts in USA are you going? I assume you will stay on MN?

Month of TNTC went a bit wrong this morning, but it's CD20 so I think the odds are pretty low, especially as I was pretty sure I OV'd early this month. At least this late on I won't be tempted to test early, as if by any miracle it did happen this morning it wouldn't show up on a test until AF was late anyway...

Right, better get dressed and sorted to meet friends for lunch.

Catch you later. xx

awwh, very good news for you dairymps !

sorry for disappearing for a while there.... was in good ol' london town on thursday and friday with dh and ds for a mini-holiday. the really good news is that dh's visa interview for moving to the states went brilliantly and we should have the green light to move within the MONTH! Sooo very very excited about that! after meeting him at the embassy we went to the zoo which was fun. weather was a bit questionable so there weren't many people around so we got a good look at all the animals. friday we were meant to see the natural history museum but the queue was 2 hours long . so we went and snapped photos of ds in front of st. stephens tower, westminter abbey, buckingham palace... all the big tourist places so he'll have photos of london for when he's older and all american-like.

aannnnddd, i was very naughty after dh and i were talking about more kids and took a test which of course was a BFN. so just waiting around for af to come and go.

Well I am becoming a bit more every time I see that Holly Willoughby on tv

Good news ladies. As you know dh and I were going to ttc till next month then stop if we hadn't concieved. This was because it would mean the baby would be too young when my dh does his pgce in 2010 whilst i'm working to support us.

Anyway, I was feeling all stressed about it as we only have one month left and dh said not to worry as he'd rather put the pgce on hold than stop ttc. So, we are just going to carry on until we get a BFP . I am so happy and the pressure is off. I love my dh

has anybody else been feeling really latly?

lol.

no i dont ether. me and DP would like to get married but dont have the money to atm.
ad rather spend money on TTC really.

Yeah, you're quicker than me on the ttc front I have to admit

Although we did dicuss doing it quite early on but then other things got in the way and my parents convinced us to get married first. Although looking back I don't think that matters much tbh.

yerr it is lol , but unforunatly they arn't friends anymore.

me and my DP had a whirlwind romance too. we got engaged 2month after getting together and decided to start a family too.

Ah it's nice when you meet your other half when they're a friend of a friend iyswim, although in your case a friend of a brother . Congratulations on being together a year! Dh and I had sort of a whirlwind romance, we were engaged after 4 months

I'd spend all my time with my dh too, if he wasn't at work that is. We used to work at the same place on the same shift, never got sick of each other. He's my best friend

Cool. I met my DP through my brother. We have been together for nearly a year, it will be a year in 6days .

awww thankQ its not somthing i normally talk about because it makes me very when i think about it.

i spend my day with my DP mostly , and am online quite alot. i like to go shopping every so often and just have a good old chat.

Hey Kay, I am originally from yorkshire (w yorks). Moved to NOrth Yorks when I was 11 but ended up here Due to meeting my dh at uni. Where did you meet your dp/dh? How long you been together? I've been with my dh 5 yrs

I feel very to hear you were forced to have an abortion, it should always be a choice, your choice. If you ever want to talk about it I am willing to lend an ear.

What you do with yourself when you're not goffing? I spend most of my day looking after ds, going for walks, housework. I like going to the beach and shopping in Newcastle an hour away too amongst other things.

hey thankQ for your comments

Dalrymps: thankQ for the advice i have added it to the 'threads i'm watching' section.
i am from yorkshire, south yorkshire. and i am 16, i know i might seem abit young but ever since i had an abortion [well was forsed to]a couple of years ago, TTC is all i can think about.
i have been on quite a few websites but i cant remember going on that one, so i will have a look at it thankQ.

Biccy: thankQ and i know what you mean.
awww i hope you succed in convincing him. lol.
and am sure you will be going have a lovly weekend thankQ.

Kay4MattTTC - 16, TTC DC#1 NOW
Heebeejeebee - 36, TTC Now afer 2 mmc
OhSnap - 27, TTC Now
Dalrymps - 27, TTC DC#2 Now
Claire236 - 31, TTC#2 now
Kittycatcat - 33, TTC DC1, AF due 20th March
LaTourEiffel - 32, TTC DC2, CD26/31

Hi Kay4MattTTC, welcome! Sorry to hear about your problems with OV. I like this thread - it helps to know you're not alone in your frustrations, and feeling like you're going mad.

We have been TTC #2 since September/October last year. Have managed two CPs and one MC in that time, so am currently having a month off but am hoping to be back on the TTC wagon after next AF (although DP seems to think we should have longer off... so I hope I can convince him we shouldn't delay any longer).

We are supposed to be off to London for the weekend after lunch, so won't be posting much, if at all, over the next few days. But then DD is being such a little madam DP keeps threatening to cancel the whole trip, and is currently just playing on his playstation in his dressing gown, so whether we really go anywhere remains to be seen...

Hi Kay4MattTTC! Of course you can join in, the more the merrier! We can go a bit quiet at times so click 'watch' at the top and save this in the 'threads i'm watching' section, that way you'll see when one of us has posted.

So what part of the counrty are you from? How old are you? I'm 27. I'm up North, just before the border to Scotland... I have one ds 17 months and am just about to enter my 5th month TTC no 2. Conceived ds1 without even trying so am started to get a little frustated now.

I'm sure it'll happen for you soon. You had a look on the fertility friend website? Lots of tips on there and you can do temperature charts to see when you ovulate.

Feel free to copy the ttc list and add yourself in then post it afresh

Evening all.
this seems like a nice thread so wondered if i could join in?

wont beet around the bush me and my DP have been TTC DC1 for about 10month. been haveing problems with ovulating. . we have a GOF very very regularly. but still no luck. also i have been getting very of people around me that are already pg or people who already have a DC. but oh well. i am currently on CD10. so just waiting for ovulatiuon CM if it ever arrives.

Yeah, at least I know now this month. I hate the waiting! Ah well, here's to next month.

I'm sorry Dalrymps; it's really disappointing for you. I suppose at least it didn't mess you about by being a bit late. Thinking of you, xx

Well, that proves my point. I just wrote that message and got my af 5 mins later

Biccy - Sorry you're still not well. Sorry dd is sick now to, it's awful when you're ill at the same time as the lo . Hope you feel better soon.

No sign yet , I don't really get much warning usually, some people can tell when they're about to start but not me! Guess it's just a matter of waiting...

Hi Dalrymps, still not feeling well, and dd is sick now. Looks like our Easter weekened away may be scuppered. Still, it's a good excuse to light the fire and stick on a DVD and just chill. How are you? Any sign yet?

Morning all, it's the dreaded af day for me. Am crossing all my fingers and toes it doesn't show up!

How are you all doing?

Hahahaha good point

yeah... our bodies are cruel to us. leading us on, making us believe false things... goodness sounds like men! no wonder they call it menstration and menopause

geesh.

You never know! Aren't increased hormone levels during pg supposed to cause them???

Unfortunately, LAst time I was pg I read every single bit of info I could find on being pg so now I knwo too much about it all and therefore am able to put most things down to pg argh!

haha ya for neurotic ttcers! ugh, been having headaches for the past week....

could it be a symptom ??

brinonthetrumpets - looks like we can all be neurotic ttcers together then. Not sure how long i'll wait if AF is late. It'll just probably turn up first thing tomorrow morning and take the decision away for me! Maybe sat or sun if I get that far...

ooh biccy, sounds like your trip to France will be the perfect distraction during your 2ww next cycle! I would definitely take the tests with, but just wait until af is late. That would be such an exciting place to find out! Come on Biccy's dh's spermies, gear up! This is the month to do your stuff. Ha, hopefully they heard me

Dairy, don't worry, you're not alone. I think I may clutching straws and just being overly acute to different things that are going on. Those are all the different things I have been keeping track of as well. Really hope you get a BFP on Friday-or are you waiting until Saturday?

aand yep, i've done the same thing. convinced it wasn't a real af and then convince myself that spending a few more on a test won't hurt b/c it'll be positive right?

Biccy - Ooh tricky one. If it was me I would just have to take the tests . You'll probably be suitabily distracted enough so that you don't test early but will have them to hand if late

Thanks for being my keep away from the tests buddy, I might need you soon!