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Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By VeryKeenForABean on Sat 23-Aug-08 20:49:42
Hi, I had an ectopic in May and am coming up to the end of my 3 month wait following methotrexate treatment. Need to wait for blood results in September but hope to start TTC from October. Feel really positive about the future and want to start looking forward. Anyone want to pass the time with me?
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By MsG on Sun 24-Aug-08 13:20:29
Hi there. Sorry to hear about your ectopic. That must have been very traumatic for you. It's great that you're feeling positive! I am TTC at the moment. Had a mc last June and it hasn't happened yet, but I'm trying to stay positive.

What does the treatment involve?

xx
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By VeryKeenForABean on Sun 24-Aug-08 20:41:20
Hi MsG, thanks for your reply. Sorry to hear about your mc, fingers crossed for you. The methotrexate is an intramuscular injection that helps the ectopic to stop growing and be reabsorbed into your body, hopefully avoiding rupture and the need for an op. It worked for me, but it does mean you have to wait before TTC again. You can read more here

Keep in touch!

xx
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By MsG on Mon 25-Aug-08 13:46:47
That is great that it worked. And it looks like there is a very good chance of you conceiving again and it all working out. I keep reminding myself of the statistics of how long it takes on average to get pregnant etc. It's hard not to panic a bit as I got pregnant quickly last year and we're both a bit older now (39 and 35) and even though it's not old, we're obviously not as fertile as we were 10 years ago.

Was this your first pregnancy?

xx
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By SuziBhoy on Tue 26-Aug-08 13:25:22
Hi VKFAB

I am also waiting for the 3 months after methotrexate........ its a bummer eh?

Well I can start trying after 10th November, so i will pass the time with you?

Did you go on contraception? I am on the pill for the 3 months but am worried once i come off the pill that i need to give my body time to get the pill out its system. what u think?
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By VeryKeenForABean on Tue 26-Aug-08 21:51:40
Hi MsG,

It was my first pg - we weren't trying, but just not trying not to iyswim! I didn't know I was pg as I bled around right time for af, but had severe pain a week later. I know what you mean about trying not to be impatient. I think I will find it hard to not fall soon after ttc, just 'cos it happened so easily this time. Fingers crossed for you x

Hi SB, great to have another post metho friend! Hope you are feeling better. Are your HCG levels completely down so you can start taking folic acid yet? I have been prescribed microgynon but decided to stick with condoms for the moment as I had some weird bleeding and pain for a while and wasn't sure about confusing the issue anymore! I think it will be fine for you though, it shouldn't be any different to others coming off the pill. Heard somewhere it can boost your fertility? (Might be a myth!) Have you got any follow up booked?

Keep in touch x
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By SuziBhoy on Wed 27-Aug-08 12:21:10
Hey

oh its good to talk to someone goin thru the exact same thing!! Well i went for my last follow up about a week ago and they said my hcg levels were in the negative, so just told me to go on some sort of contraception for 3 months. but as soon as i get a bfp ive to make an appointment with the hospital again for an early scan.

It gets irritable waiting though, but will be worth it in the end i suppose grin

So how are you feeling now?

x
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By LullyMummaOfOne on Wed 27-Aug-08 13:09:15
Hi VKFAB,

Im starting TTC this month after suffering a missed miscarraige in July. My first AF has just finished so feel the time is right now.
Sorry to hear about you eptopic, im glad your feeling positive and wish you lots of luck with TTC.

MsG lots of luck for you too, im sure we will all have BFP very soon.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By SuziBhoy on Thu 28-Aug-08 12:17:16
Hi lullymumma

good luck to you TTC, hope it all works out

MsG - think positive and relax, it will happen good luck
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By littlewifey on Fri 29-Aug-08 08:33:25
Hi everyone,
Hope everyone is ok this morning? I had a mmc last December. We weren't trying but weren't not- IKWYM verykeen :-) We were really excited but then were devastated when we found out it was all over. Just after, SIL announced that she was pregnant (husbands side of family) and then four people at work have all announced their pregnancies. Didn't intend to wait this long to ttc, but every time a new pregnancy was announced it set me back emotionally IYKWIM. Anyway, am ready to ttc again now, but am waiting til start of DEC as I'm a school teacher and want to try to time birth for after six weeks hols as will mean end of my pregnancy is during hols and less stressful for me. I know after my last experience it might not work this way but am trying to think positive! Anyway, that's my story and I'd love to wait here if that's ok? Have sort of felt in limbo since, as hang around mumsnet but don't really have a thread where I fit!!!!
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By SuziBhoy on Fri 29-Aug-08 12:28:43
well littlewifey you fit in here grin

sorry to hear about your MMC sad

ikwym about the emotions when someone in the family announces they are pg, and in my case other side of family aswell, but im not going to think about anyone else at the moment, no stress + positive thoughts = happy baby environment lol smile

So will you be trying for your first?
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By littlewifey on Fri 29-Aug-08 21:33:32
Thanks SuziBhoy :-) Yes we will be trying for our first, finding it hard to hold off ttc now that I feel emotionally ready, but know that the next few months at work are going to be very stressful and prob wouldn't help baby. You are right about no stress and positive thoughts. Are you trying for your first too?
I agree about trying to forget about others and focus on ourselves. It's sooooo hard though isn't it!!!
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By SuziBhoy on Sat 30-Aug-08 11:50:15
yeah it it soooo hard, also trying for my first.

Fell pg a recently but it ended in MC of one twin, and ectopic with the other. Bizarre eh?

So I am just waiting patiently (not) wink
and hopefully it will happen sooner rather than later.

I have a holiday booked to go away 2 weeks time so that is taking my mind of it a bit.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By SuziBhoy on Sat 30-Aug-08 11:50:57
VKFAB how are you getting on?
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By VeryKeenForABean on Sat 30-Aug-08 22:23:57
Hi, sorry I haven't been on for a couple of days!

Welcome Lullymumma and littlewifey, sorry to hear of your stories and crossing my fingers for you LM. Know how hard it is when everyone else has good news, but strange that some people upset me more than others?!

SB, glad to hear your follow up went well. I'm looking forward to my appt on 25th Sept. Think it will act as a confirmation that we're moving on iykwim.

Thinking of you all x
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By littlewifey on Sun 31-Aug-08 17:20:34
Hi VKFAB, I know what you mean about some people's news upsetting you more than others! There are lots of people at work who are pregnant and I see them every day, but have coped ok with that. However, have found the forthcoming birth of family baby (BIL and his GF) very hard to deal with emotionally!
Hope everyone is having a good weekend? x
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By SuziBhoy on Mon 01-Sep-08 12:35:23
It deffo is hard, but do you know what i found the hardest........... having to tell everyone what had happened, because it was their reaction that made me feel uncomfortable and upset. I dont know why... any of you feel like this?

VKFAB It is strange when you look forward to the appointments.... i remember feeling great when they told me i was no longer pregnant and my hcg had returned to normal........... because as you said.. its all about moving on

x
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By littlewifey on Mon 01-Sep-08 17:03:27
Yes Suzibhoy, I know exactly what you mean about telling people. I was quite lucky as had hardly told anyone we were pregnant, and found out MMC during a private scan before 12 week one. However, had obviously told parents, inlaws and had had to tell my boss (due to being offered different job role) I hated the looks of pity when I had to break news of MC and it made me feel like such a failure, which I know prob sounds stupid! Have just found out today that another colleague is pregnant (5th since my mc)- I keep wondering when will the announcements end!!!
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By VeryKeenForABean on Mon 01-Sep-08 18:09:51
Hi guys,

I think telling people is awful, 'cos not only does it make you think everything through again, but you know you're going to make them feel awkward and have to make them feel better and then feel that they are scrutinising you for your reaction too! I was off work for so long, I knew I was going to get questions, and I wondered whether to say "I'd rather not say" and seem a bit off, or tell people and deal with the conversation. i took the latter route with most people but not sure if it was best.

LW _ I cannot fathom why I am inconsolable with some people's news and quite ok about others - weird but just trying to go with it!

Thank goodness we all have similar feelings - means we can't all be mad!

Thinking of you all, xx
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By littlewifey on Mon 01-Sep-08 21:28:59
I know! Every time a new pg is announced at work, I can feel those that know about me watching me closely to see how I react. It's like being in the zoo smile
But we def aren't mad if so many of us feel this way. Thank heavens for mumsnet eh?!
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By VeryKeenForABean on Tue 02-Sep-08 19:19:20
Hope everyone is ok today? Am off on holiday at the end of the week, which will help pass the time until my appointment! Does anyone else find themselves wanting to have more to do to get ready to ttc? I kind of want to be reading something, but would feel weird getting pg books/magazines. Does that make sense? It seems most things are for when you are pregnant. Hopefully it won't be too long before we can all legitimately be reading these! x
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By SuziBhoy on Wed 03-Sep-08 19:39:25
OMG started my third year at college the other day and 3 people have asked me if there is going to be an addition to my family......... wots that about..... do we send off a vibe that says we were pregnant or somethin lol.

man november seems so long away.... i cant wait lol smile

thinking of u all xx
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By VeryKeenForABean on Thu 04-Sep-08 10:19:53
I know what you mean. Someone at work came up to me and said in from of everyone "I had a dream about you where you were really heavily pregnant...". Maybe on a phenomenal (?made up) level we give something out?.

Have joined (and gone to!) a gym to focus my getting ready energies!!

Take care x
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By SuziBhoy on Thu 04-Sep-08 17:53:06
yeah thats a good idea, i started pilates, but just at home on the dvds, hard work lol
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By babyinarms on Thu 04-Sep-08 21:46:42
Hi everyone, sorry to hear all your stories , hopefully all will go well come oct, nov!
I did a pregnancy test mon and got a BFP, but bleeding today and now tested a BFN, i am upset but not so surprised as have been spotting all week, even for 5 days before AF was due. Anyway long and short of it i am now going to wait until oct to try again to allow everything to settle down a bit...so is it ok to join ye?

Verykeen and suzi, i know how hard it is to wait to try again also. I had a molar pregnancy back in 2006 and had to wait 6 months before trying again! But on a positive note i fell pregnant first month off the pill and now have a wonderful DD who will turn 1 next month...so there is light at the end of the tunnel!
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By SuziBhoy on Fri 05-Sep-08 11:45:05
hello babyinarms

ofcourse you can join us and wait impatiently lol

sorry to hear about your experiences, but as you said their is light at the end of the tunnel!

It must have been so hard waiting for six months! I mean 3 months is feeling like a life time to me but just cant imagine what you went through.

I think keepin busy helps me a lot, no time left to think about it really, and also the chats on here smile

x
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By littlewifey on Sat 06-Sep-08 11:42:47
Welcome babyinarms, I'm very sorry to read about your MC, but we all understand here so feel free to vent your frustrations. I don't know about everyone else, but I find it so much easier to speak here than in 'real life'!!
Suzibhoy and VKFAB- I'm with you on the whole pregnancy comments from others. I got married just over 2 years ago, and as most ppl don't know about my MMC at work I've had loads of people nudging each time a new preg is announced and saying things like 'will it be you next?'. Obviously it's not their fault, but sometimes I want to kick them!!! smile
VKFAB - Are you off on hols this weekend? Anywhere nice? (Please don't make us too jealous grin)
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By VickyJane77 on Sat 06-Sep-08 16:32:21
Hi, I had MC back in June, and am waiting 3 months before trying again, so will be TTC in oct. I've been really fed up over it all, but now decided to be positive, as if anything happens again I can't stop it, so may as well be happy than sad! Can't wait now for AF, it's due in 2 weeks, just wish we could try now!!
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By VeryKeenForABean on Mon 15-Sep-08 14:17:59
Hi everyone,

Am back from Spain (was v lovely but will say no more!!) So sorry I didn't say bye before going - entered that huge scrabble to get all ready etc and had no time for anything!!

Sorry to hear your news BIA & VickyJane - welcome to our little waiting room! Hopefully we can all pass the time together!

How's the pilates going SB? It's meant to be a really good form of exercise. i once went to a pilates on the ball class that I really enjoyed and always meant to take it up! Am restarting the gym this evening (have a post-holiday figure!!)

Hope you are all ok,

VKFAB xxxx
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By littlewifey on Tue 16-Sep-08 20:49:19
welcome back VKFAB, glad you enjoyed your holiday. I would love to go away again, as work is a nightmare at the moment!! 3 people are all off on maternity leave in the next month or so and I feel envy!!!
Welcome also to VickyJane, sorry to hear of your mc. I think you are right to try to think positive thoughts. Speaking from my own experience, it's very hard though isn't it! Not long til October now though. Hope everyone else is ok? x
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By CamsMommy on Thu 25-Sep-08 01:33:44
HI. Hope You all don't mind if I join.
I found I was pregant Mother's Day but had to get the methotrexate shot early june.
My question:
When I got the shot the nurse administered it in 2 shots (one in each hip), I am wondering if that counts as just one injection since they were on the same day.

i recently had an hsg and my tubes were clear. we wanna try in oct, but i am just trying to clarify that my methotrexate shots actually only count as 1 shot. since my ovulation days will be almost 20 weeks since my shot. (almost 5 months)
thanks.
and i will be thinking about all of you!!!
i always pray for other mothers and families that have been through what we have!!
best of wishes.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By VeryKeenForABean on Thu 25-Sep-08 16:46:34
Hi CamsMommy, so sorry to hear about your loss. Hope your recovery has gone well.

That counts as one dose, my first dose was given as 2 injections. They split the dose as each muscle can only have so much liquid injected and it should be less painful in smaller amounts (although I had my 2nd dose as one injection and I think just one needle is better!!)Good luck with TTC -fingers crossed for you!

I have had my appointment, all my bloods are fine so we are go, go, go for TTC!! I hope all of you get the same positive news and October is a fertile month for all of us!!!!
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By VeryKeenForABean on Sun 28-Sep-08 11:19:47
How's everyone doing? Hope all is ok x
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By ellsbellzie on Sun 28-Sep-08 19:26:31
Hi everyone, anyone still on this thread me too wanting to try from oct?? After ectopic/misc?x
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By ellsbellzie on Sun 28-Sep-08 19:28:40
So sorry just realised this thread is still going, I only read the 1st page Derr!! Can I join You??x
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By littlewifey on Mon 29-Sep-08 19:51:04
Hi VKFAB, all ok here thanks. Well except for the fact that I just got my AF, which was late, so now doesn't look like I'll be trying till November- as have really long cycles since MMC grrrrr!!! How are you? Hi Ellsbellzie, you are welcome to join us. Sorry to hear about your ectopic/misc xx
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By VeryKeenForABean on Wed 01-Oct-08 21:06:39
Hi Ellsbellzie, welcome! Come, join us! xx

Littlewifey, sorry to hear about the arrival of the horrid Aunt. Have been reading a Zita West book about conception, and she advises viewing "this as a time for renewal" (I'm inclined to view it as a time for eating chocolate) but am wishing you positive thoughts xx
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By littlewifey on Thu 02-Oct-08 18:29:49
Haha, I like the time for eating chocolate- I've definitely eaten enough to keep cadburys in business this week!!! x
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By pop1973 on Thu 02-Oct-08 18:38:15
Hi, can I join your thread too ??
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By SuziBhoy on Fri 03-Oct-08 17:07:43
hey everyone

sorry av not been replying, been away in tenerife............. it was so what i needed.

Sorry to hear bout the latest experiences from everyone, but on a happier note... heres to trying again wink

So how is everyone doing???? wow october has came pretty fast dont u think? now ive just got to wait til nov!!

VKFAB - the pilates are going really well, just tryin to get back into it after the holiday! How r u doing?
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By littlewifey on Fri 03-Oct-08 17:34:13
Hi Pop1973, welcome to our merry little bunch :-) I think October has come round pretty quickly too, roll on November!!! Suzibhoy- where abouts in Tenerife did you stay? I really want a holiday!!!!! Don't think there is much chance for a year or so now though- if everything goes to plan with conceiving etc.. (fingers crossed)
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By spats on Fri 03-Oct-08 17:36:17
Hi i have been trying this week. my opk was pos on mon evening so i have done the whole BD thing and now have the dreaded 2 weeks wait for AF. Sorry to hear about all your problems girls. I think i had a very early miscarriage last month - only 4 1/2 weeks, (didn't test as too scred but AF overdue by 5 days which never happens) but still upset. Thought it would put my cycle out of synch but was OK. We do have to put up with a load us women dont we? I am definately coming back as a man!!!
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By SuziBhoy on Fri 03-Oct-08 20:26:22
ha ha spats, yes that sounds like an idea... i will coma back as a man aswell, so much easier. 5 days late? how long will you wait before you test? Let us know how u get on! smile

littlewifey - i stayed in a little place called sunningdale village (about 15 mins away from los cristianos), its a very quiet place but was lovely! i think i will be waiting for a holiday for a while aswell, if everything goes to plan smile
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By dawn37 on Sat 04-Oct-08 10:51:53
Hi everyone, I had methotrexate shot on 5th Sept, after a suspected ectopic (levels were slow rising-no pain or anything but too early to see anything on scan) finally had last blood test yesterday, my levels were less than 5. It was my 3rd pregnancy, but 1st with my 2nd husband, I feel so bad as he was so excited & it was my in-laws 1st grandchild. We are moving on but cant wait to ttc again, its been v traumatic for us as the hospital have made me go for bloods every other day until now (I think maybe they were secret vampires or something!) I'm a little anxious as I am 37 now & it usually takes so long to conceive, however this last pregnancy I managed it within 3 months of clomid, so have my fingers crossed all will be well when times right as my age is bothering me. Does anyone now when I would be able to try again..is it 12 weeks or 3 calender months? could mean difference between end of Nov or Dec (god I sound so desperate!) Anyway, good luck to everyone
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By littlewifey on Sun 05-Oct-08 08:58:14
Hi Dawn, I'm afraid I don't know much about methotrexate, but I'm sure there will be someone along soon who knows about how long you should wait. You don't sound desperate at all, and I shall be keeping my fingers crossed for you. I know what you mean about the first grandchild- it was my inlaws first one too then I had a MMC. Then within a month, brother in law and his gf were pregnant. Baby is due this week- and I'm finding it really hard. I feel like a cow, but feel really jealous about it, although obviously wouldn't wish anything bad on them or the baby.
Spats- you are right- men have it SOOOOOOO easy! Keep us updated for the 2WW.
Suzhiboy- holiday sounds fab
Hello everyone else. Hope you are all having a fab weekend?
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By dawn37 on Sun 05-Oct-08 09:38:27
Yes littlewifey, I'm in same boat, my cousin just had her baby & noone wanted to say. I feel everytime a baby is in my vicinity, friends are watching my reaction, whoever said it on here about being in a goldfish bowl was absolutely right! Anyway, it is my wedding anniversary on Tues, so at least I will be able to drink (I'd rather be pregnant) I just hope I don't end up drunk & start crying, I've done extremely well keeping it together in front of people!
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By VeryKeenForABean on Sun 05-Oct-08 12:00:31
Welcome Pop!

Hi SuziBhoy - glad to hear you had a great time in Tenerife! It's so hard not knowing what to plan for the future isn't it! DH & I have always wanted to go skiing but wouldn't want to go if pg. However, if we don't get pg it would be good to have something to look forward to! Glad to hear pilates id=s going well. I am def feeling fitter than I was. Can swim quite a few lengths without gossip stops now! November is not far away for you and Littlewifey*!!!

*Dawn
, I had methotrexate in June, and found the advice from the Ectopic Pregnancy Trust so helpful. Have a look here. The advice varies but is essentially based around you having a measurable cycle and your folate and iron levels being back to normal. I waited 12 weeks from the first dose and had bloods done to check levels. You also need to have been taking folic acid for at least 6 weeks before ttc again. I was so desperate to start ttc again and completely understand the way you feel. However, I am glad that I managed to wait (with the help of MN!) as I now feel prepared and know I've done all I can to get it "right" and if something awful happens again, I can hopefully reassure myself with that. Thinking of you x

Spats - we are both on the 2 ww! Fingers crossed for you xx

I am enjoying a lovely w/e off doing v little - hope everyone else is having a good time too!
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By dawn37 on Sun 05-Oct-08 13:29:33
Thanks for your comments girls, you've been really supportive, its reassuring when you've got people going through the same thing, rather than expecting you just to move on. Does anyone know when I can start taking folic acid, my last blood test said my hcg levels were now zero but I can't ttc until end of Nov
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By spats on Sun 05-Oct-08 13:31:44
verykeenforabean - glad found someone on the 2 weeks wait with me. This wekend has gone so slowley i am waiting for the week ahead as it rushes past with work and school runs etc and then will soon be time. Mind you i felt really weepy yesterday, possibly a pmt sign which put me in more of a bad mood- wasn't v. pleasent to be round yesterday!!! I just want to hibernate for the week, wait for AF and if she comes get on with trying again. HURRAY UP NEXT WEEK PLEASE!!!!!!!!!
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By VeryKeenForABean on Sun 05-Oct-08 13:41:39
Hi Dawn, have just re-read EPT methotrexate advice, and they actually say 12 weeks of folic acid before ttc again, but you can get levels checked before ttc and make sure they are normal. You can start taking supplements as soon as levels are zero, because the metho has worked and they won't interfere with its action now - check with epu/GP to be sure. Good luck x

Hi Spats - am trying not to think about it. Am more focused on being able to try again next month too as not sure we bd'd enough this time round. Have the tests lined up and ready!
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By LJ29 on Sun 05-Oct-08 14:02:42
HI, I am trying to conceive baby number 3 at the moment. This is my 2nd month of trying which I know isn't long but a bit of a surprise to me as first 2 were conceived straight away. This week end has been the all important few days for BD'ing but really struggling with DH. He is normally all over me but think he is finding the demands of having to perform a bit stressful. Really frustrating as he doesn't seem to get the fact that the window of opportunity is so short. I've tried to make it fun and a little bit less of a military operation but i just end up feeling guilty for even trying to get it on!
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By sue10 on Sun 05-Oct-08 14:23:18
Hi ladies, can i join in please.
After mc's i am ttc this month, however i am a bit confused as yesterday morning i had a blank face on the ovulation test (digital clear blue test) then in the afternoon the smiley face appeared, then this morning i tried again just to see of smiley face still there but it wasn't!!!! Any ideas as to how long the smiley face stays for (i thought it would be about 24hrs!!!!)

LJ29, i can understand what you mean, as soon as the smiley face was there it was all goooooooooo!!! Then again this morning but neither of us really felt like doing it (sorry for crap words) which takes the romance out of it a bit really!!!

Goodluck everyone
XXX.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By sue10 on Sun 05-Oct-08 14:25:01
Sorry i should have neither of us felt like BD not the other thing!!!!!
XXX.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By LJ29 on Sun 05-Oct-08 14:31:10
I'm also really confused about EWCM! What is the normal pattern for Cm in a cycle?
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By VillageMum on Sun 05-Oct-08 14:44:15
Hello everyone, may I join? I discovered I'd had a mmc on 5 September (when I should have been 10 wks; the baby had stopped growing at 6 wks) - this would have been my second child; I have a lovely ds already aged 7. We weren't ttc with the recent pg at all, it just happened, but once we got over the surprise we couldn't have been happier and since losing the baby we've decided we'd like to try again. I'm now waiting for my first AF since the mc and will only ttc in the next cycle - so, maybe in late October, I hope!

I am 39 and have never actively tried to get pg before, so this is all rather new to me. I also feel my decrepit old age isn't a plus. Would really be glad if I could hang out here with you ladies for some moral support. smile
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By VillageMum on Sun 05-Oct-08 15:02:56
PS, Hi LJ - found this on a site called 'Fertility Friend'; perhaps a help?

“Typical” Cervical Fluid Pattern

While your cervical fluid pattern may vary from cycle to cycle and it may vary from woman to woman, a typical cervical fluid pattern looks like this:

Immediately following menstruation there is usually a dry vaginal sensation and there is little or no cervical fluid.

After a few days of dryness, there is normally a cervical fluid that is best described as "sticky" or "pasty" but not wet. While this kind of cervical fluid is not conducive to sperm survival these days may be considered as "possibly fertile" if found before ovulation.

Following these "sticky" days, most women generally notice a cervical fluid that is best described as "creamy". This fluid may be white, yellow or beige in color and has the look and feel of lotion or cream. At this point the vagina may feel wet and this indicates possible increased fertility.

The most fertile cervical fluid now follows. This most fertile fluid looks and feels like raw egg white. It is slippery and may be stretched several inches between your fingers. It is usually clear and may be very watery. The vagina feels wet and lubricated. These days are considered most fertile. This is the fluid that is the most friendly and receptive to sperm. It looks a lot like semen and, like semen, can act as a transport for sperm.

After ovulation, fertile fluid dries up very quickly and the vagina remains more or less dry until the next cycle. Some women may notice small amounts of fertile-looking fluid after ovulation as the corpus luteum produces small amounts of estrogen, but you are not at all fertile after ovulation has been confirmed.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By LJ29 on Sun 05-Oct-08 15:57:18
Thanks VM, so when in this pattern do you think we should do the deed?
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By SuziBhoy on Sun 05-Oct-08 16:46:43
Hi everyone!

Oh the 5th november is getting closer smile
there will deffo be fireworks that night lol grin

so how is everyone getting on?

and to everyone who has just joined........ ive found this thread great to hang out in.... hope you get the benefits xx
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By VillageMum on Sun 05-Oct-08 16:50:52
LJ, Well, they say that EWCM appears in the two to three days before ovulation and that this, up to and including the day of ov itself, is the 'fertile window'. So if you have EWCM, go for it!!

Sue, hi, OPKs usually detect the LH surge 24-36 hours before ov (if you catch the surge at the beginning, that is - I'd say from your smiley face on the OPK that you ovulated on Sat evening, and that your LH levels had dropped again by Sunday morning, simple as that! Just a short surge, but nothing wrong with that!)

Good luck all!
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By LJ29 on Sun 05-Oct-08 20:07:52
Well we've been bd'ing every other day since last monday so here's hoping!!! I think I am on day 13 or 14 at the moment. My last period started with some very light bleeding on the Monday and full flow on the Tuesday (sorry tmi!) I have read lots of conflicting articles which seem to differ on which day I should count as my 1st day but hoping we have done enought to catch the little egg!
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By sue10 on Mon 06-Oct-08 08:22:20
Morning ladies,
many thanks VM for the info regarding length of surge, fingers crossed we BD enough times lol!!!!!
So sorry for you mmc, i had one in Feb 07, absolutely devasting, big gentle hugs coming your way my lovely. Goodluck at the end of Oct, keep us posted.
Hi Suzie, roll on the 5th Nov hey!!!
Goodluck LJ29, it's now the 2WW!!!!!
Takecare everyone.
XXX.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By LJ29 on Mon 06-Oct-08 09:23:02
Hi all. Yep now the 2WW which is likely to be absolute torture!! Really going to try har not to symptom spot as I had loads last month and still had a BFN. Is anyone else on the 2WW?
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By spats on Mon 06-Oct-08 10:32:19
I am now on a week wait. The last week went very slowly and imagine this week will as well. Think got PMT also so not happy!! Just want AF to come so can get on with thinking about next month.

LJ29 - my first 2 were also conceived within 1st month so this is v frustrating. DH thinks its too clinical so didn't tell him i did OPK and just pounced on correct days!! This is 3rd motnh of ttc. Last month was 5 days late and think was pg as never late and had really aching/swollen boobs but it went but bled after a week. So i doubt i would be this month as odds against 2 motnhs in a row aren't good. Roll on next month.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By LJ29 on Mon 06-Oct-08 10:50:01
Spats don't be too down in the dumps. A lot of PMT symptoms are similar to early pregnancy remember.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By VillageMum on Mon 06-Oct-08 11:54:34
Hmmm, I am only on the 2WW for first AF, unfortunately! Since we haven't ttc this time around - felt I needed to get my strength, sanity (and at least one cycle) back after the mc. Very pleased for you ladies who are at that stage, though! It's exciting - remember each month is a fresh chance! smile
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By gemdangracie on Mon 06-Oct-08 22:36:23
Hi everyone can I join?

Sorry to hear about all your bad news

We are TTC#2once AF finishes, had my implant taken out of my arm on 10th september and my AF started on 3rd october and is now very light..(TMI)

Seeing as this is my 1st cycle in 1.5 years, when do you think I should start using my OPK to check for OV?? (was thinkin around day 10?)
hmm
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By VillageMum on Mon 06-Oct-08 23:26:23
Hi gemdangracie - Yep, they say day 10 is the day if you don't know the length of your cycle. Good luck!
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By bluesatinsash on Tue 07-Oct-08 13:58:16
Hi can I park up too?

We're ttc from this week (had MC in August at 8 weeks). AF returned on 23rd Sept but lasted 2 weeks so starting to use OPK this Thurs. My cycle is a bit to pop but we have to give it a go!

I fell first month with DS (2 years) and the last pg but my confidence has really taken a knock since the MC.

BTW wht does WW mean? i.e. 2WW is it weeks waiting?

Hi VillageMum <<waves>>
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By bluesatinsash on Tue 07-Oct-08 14:13:23
pot not pop!
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By ellie35 on Tue 07-Oct-08 14:24:27
Hi,
Can I join you all. TTC dc2, have been trying for three months. DS1 took us about 2 years and as I am now nearly 38 am anticipating a long wait so would love the company.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By VillageMum on Tue 07-Oct-08 16:24:08
Hi bluesatinsash ((waves back grin))
Yes, 2WW = two week wait (I hope! There's an acronym list at the top of the page under 'useful stuff', maybe in there?)
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By SuziBhoy on Thu 09-Oct-08 12:25:36
okay need all your help my methotrexate friends.

I dont know if you remember having the conversation about me being on the pill?? anyway...... recently my boobs have been aching (they have never ached like this before) and ive just been sooooo tired. I didnt think i could be pg as im on the pill. and my methotrexate shot was back in july/aug, so couldnt be side effects from that either......

what do you think?
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By maz32 on Fri 10-Oct-08 10:17:16
hi can i join. had miscarriage end of aug, and hopefully go to ttc next week-just needs husband to agree!he doesnt want to see me go thro mc again, and neither do I but im hoping it wont happen again- hes convinced it will xx
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By VillageMum on Fri 10-Oct-08 10:26:28
Hi maz32 - tell dh not to stress; the medical advice is that having one mc does not alter your chances of having a healthy pg next time in any way. Think positive! x
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By SuziBhoy on Fri 10-Oct-08 12:41:57
hi maz32

sorry to hear your news

i think thats how it goes with men..... i mean that when i had the ectopic all i could think about was losing a baby and doing whatever it takes to get healthy again, but all dp could think about is what i had to go through.

what i was going through didnt even cross my mind at the time, but i think thats all to do with how each individual deals with it i suppose.

im sure your dh will come around when he starts to look at the positives. it must be awful for them though when they feel they cant really do much to help.

sorry for rambling lol
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By littlewifey on Sun 12-Oct-08 08:49:00
Hi everyone- welcome to all the new people on here and sorry to hear of all your experiences.
Suzibhoy- are you still having strange symptoms? I know a couple of people who have caught pregnant even though they were on the pill.
I've had a terrible week this week. My BIL and his partner (who I have never been very keen on because he's stuck up and always put's DH down) had their baby daughter on Wed. They got pregnant about a month after our MMC and had always said they never wanted DC. So the whole thing was a big shock. Also the first grandchild for my MIL and FIL- which should have been us only 2 months previously :-(
They live in London so have managed to avoid them for the whole of the pg, which prob wasn't a good way of dealing with things- because this week it has totally hit me. Me and DH had some terrible arguements about it which culminated in me having a total melt down last night and sobbing like a lunatic!! :-( Probably a good thiing though- as it meant me and DH finally talked about it and I now feel a bit better. They have also just announced their engagement- which is a big bone of contention with me because they earn much more than us but never have 'any money' so MIL and FIL are always shelling out for them. However, don't have anything for us because we are 'so good with money' and don't need their help.
Obviously it's not the baby's fault, and I know I'm being a complete Bi* but I'm just finding it so hard to muster any enthusiasm about the whole thing. We have to go and see them next week- which I'm dreading already!
ARRRGGGHHH why is everyhting so hard after MC?????? Sorry for ranting, but knew lots of you lovely ladies would prob understand.
Hope you are all having good weekends and good luck for those on the 2WW. Any news yet??!!!! xx
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By bluesatinsash on Sun 12-Oct-08 14:08:46
Hi littlewifey - sorry your've had a shit week, families eh?! At least your BIL and his partner live far enough away that they aren't around to upset you with all the new babyness. I totally agree how hard it is to be surrounded by pregnant people and new Mums.

DH and I have just had some "sky rockets in flight, afternoon delight" as the OPK clearblue digital gave me a smiley face last night! Still think my cycle is off this month but reassured that I'm at least ovulating. AF is due on 21st Oct. but as my last one lasted over a fortnight I think its not actually due until early Nov. Now in wait and see territory...
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By olivo on Sun 12-Oct-08 14:30:52
Hello. May I join you please? We will be ttc after the end of this packet of pills and I know some friendly support will be needed. I'm really anxious this time around; have a 2yo dd already and seem to be far more anxious this time. I am hoping to try accupuncture to try to manage my anxiety a bit, as i have also been very stressed with work and lack of sleep recently.

good luck to all.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By VillageMum on Sun 12-Oct-08 14:36:21
Hi olivo - welcome. After my recent mc I'm anxious too abut ttc again... I'm sure we can reassure each other! ((virtual hug))
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By olivo on Sun 12-Oct-08 14:41:45
thanks VM. I'm not sure why i'm anxious, dd's conception was no problem, the pg was fairly straightforward and her birth and the few days after when we didnt know how she'd be were really traumatic. i guess I'm older now, know more people who've had problems, mc etc.
sorry to hear about you mmc and here's to some successful pgs soon.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By VillageMum on Sun 12-Oct-08 14:54:29
Hi again olivo, was the birth of your dd difficult? You say that you didn't know for a few days afterwards how she'd be - or were these just the usual new parent niggles?
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By olivo on Sun 12-Oct-08 18:15:48
had an em c-sec due to foetal distress. she wasn't breathing for the first 6 to 8 mins and had to be 'worked on' . she spent a week in scbu but is now a healthy and energetic 2 year old. i guess i was naive the first time round as all my friends had reasonably straightforward births, i assumed i would too!i felt so out of control and it hurt so much - she was OP despite everything i tried to keep her the right way round. by the time i decided i couldnt cope with the pain, i was too late for an epidural.

the main thing is, she is fit and healthy now and we are very lucky for that. sorry to ramble, it'squite therapeutic to get it all out!!
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By LJ29 on Sun 12-Oct-08 18:24:28
Crikey Olivo it sounds like you had a really traumatic time. They do say tho that no 2 births are the same. With my DS I spent 18 hours in labour, he was also OP so I can sympathise, and I pushed for an hour and twenty minutes. With DD I was in labour for 3.5 hours and pushed for 3 minutes, so totally different. I know its easier said than done but try and relax, its better for you, your chances of conceiving and baby.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By VillageMum on Sun 12-Oct-08 18:48:45
Hi olivo - I can see why you're anxious; that difficult birth must have left a residue with you. But LJ29 is right - the past is no predictor of the future and no two births are the same. On the positive side, you now have foreknowledge of what can happen, and will be so much better prepared mentally if things aren't textbook. And if all is straightforward (and there's no reason why it shouldn't be) then you'll be on top of the world. smile

I've realised I need to think positively too about any next pg - just because I've miscarried once doesn't mean it will happen again; it would be a totally different pregnancy after all! x
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By olivo on Sun 12-Oct-08 20:58:39
thanks guys, hopefully we can help each other be positive. I went over the birth with my midwife and she said there was no reason i couldn't have a natural birth in the future but would be given the option. I realise it was just bad luck. feeling more cheered, have just been to visit a friend who had a hard time first time round but has just had dc 2 and everything was so different and so much more calm.

you're right VM, every pg is different and it'll be fine for us all, hopefully.
thank you both for your words of support.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By VillageMum on Mon 13-Oct-08 14:09:58
Hi olivo - so glad you've heard a success story in the form of your friend's experience - and that they'll give you an option about how to give birth next time.

Hmm, now we just have to get pg... smile
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By VillageMum on Tue 14-Oct-08 11:52:40
Hello again olivo - I was on a thread about amalgam fillings just now and saw you there - I'm having one removed tomorrow and hope to ttc around 4 November (am guessing I'll ov around then!) How long will you be waiting to ttc after having yours removed, if you don't mind me asking (has your dentist said anything about this?) Do you think it'll be safe to ttc 3 weeks after the nasty thing is out? Any advice MUCH appreciated... xx
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By olivo on Tue 14-Oct-08 19:55:29
Hi VM - have just posted on that thread. i think I'm naive, I assumed a few days would have it out of the system but now i'm not so sure. will have to do some research as I will quite happily avoid getting mine done for now. I also wondered if there was something you could take to minimise the risk, or to help it along ( vitamin, or something similar?) maybe we should post on health?
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By woollyjo on Tue 14-Oct-08 20:15:23
Hi Folks,

Think I may fit here,

Just started trying again after MCs in April and July (we have a dd 21 months old).

Not sure what I'm more worried about a positive or a negative result (caught v quickly on my last 3 pregnancies) but the next few weeks are going feel like an age.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By olivo on Tue 14-Oct-08 20:44:00
HI Woollyjo. sorry to hear about your mcs, let's hope this thread is lucky for us all.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By VillageMum on Wed 15-Oct-08 10:37:52
Hi woollyjo - all the very best of luck for conceiving and being pg again!

olivo, thanks so much for posting on the other thread.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By bluesatinsash on Tue 21-Oct-08 12:19:39
VillageMum - did AF come as planned?

My AF is a no show today but as last one lasted 18 days (first one post m/c) think I'll hang fire doing a test for another week at least!
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By thegreatescape on Tue 21-Oct-08 12:25:26
Hi, wonder if anybody can advise me? Started ttc and period approx 5 days late and never usually late. Have been doing pg tests everyday all coming up negative. Have had a couple of headaches recently also. If you have an ectopic, i'm thinking the test would still show pos? Not sure if i read on mn of someone with an ectopic who had neg pg test, i'm probably just late but would appreciate any advice.

Sorry to be such an amateur!
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By littlewifey on Tue 21-Oct-08 18:34:09
Hi thegreatescape, not sure if I can be much help, but from what i've read on here I think that ectopic usually shows as a positive result. I'm sure someone will be along soon tho who can be a bit more help. Hope you get some answers soon.
Hi everyone else!! Any positives yet? x
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Icantbelieveitsnotbitter on Wed 22-Oct-08 11:49:41
Hi - my DP and I are TTC - my 2nd and his 3rd !! Took my last pill (femodene) on 3 October and just wondering what experience people have had getting pregnant after being on the pill.

I wasn't actively trying to have DS1 - in fact we were actively trying not to have DC at that time but fell into the 1% of condoms that fail blush so I have no experience of TTC at all !

x
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By olivo on Wed 22-Oct-08 12:56:52
icantbelieve, I fell pg with dd within 6 weeks of coming off the Pill. i am finishing my current pkt tomorrow and hope to ttc dc2 as soon as possible. my GP told me that there is an increased chanvce of pg straight after coming off the pill,and no real need to wait for 3 cycles as some recommend. Can apparently be more difficult to date the pg but not a real problem.
good luck - i hope we are all sharing good news soon.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Icantbelieveitsnotbitter on Wed 22-Oct-08 14:30:26
Whoops, did think it might take a bit longer to get pg when coming straight off pill !! Certainly didn't know anything about waiting 3 cycles hmm

Decided to end pill as the side effects were grotty and we discussed alternative methods of protection but in the end just decided to 'see what happens' thinking it might take at least 6 months to get a BFP blush
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By VillageMum on Wed 22-Oct-08 14:56:05
bluesatinsash - yes, AF came on the 17th, right on schedule, and has lasted four/five days as it used to... so I guess I am getting back to normal after my mc. Well, physically, at least - after much soul searching DH and I have decided to sit this cycle out before we ttc. I was all for getting right down to it immediately, but once the AF came it suddenly seemed all too real, I got panicky and depressed, and I realised that I actually need another month to get my head back together. So this is going to be my 'getting strong for pg' month... before we start ttc at the end of November! I went swimming again today for the first time since my mc. So many of my normal everyday habits have got suspended since the mc; would really like to get my life back on track before boarding the pg train again... (sorry about the railway metaphors! smile) How are you doing?

Icantbelieve and olivo - I also fell pg six weeks after coming off the pill; apparently your fertility is slightly raised for the first few months afterwards, as olivo's GP says. Good luck both of you!!
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By theautomatic on Wed 22-Oct-08 17:08:50
Hello everyone, great thread, can I join? Sitting here imagining pregnancy symptons even though I know this is impossible as only bedded recently (16th and 18th October) but getting my hopes up. I know I'll feel devastated when AF turns up, though god knows when this will be as my cycle seems to have a life of its own!

Heres hoping for lots of BFP for us all soon!
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By memoo on Wed 22-Oct-08 21:56:56
Hi, I'm a bit late but can i join your thread? DP and I have just started TTC.

I had an ectopic3 years ago that ruptured leaving me with only one tube. It has taken me all this time to build up the courage to try again.

Already have DD age 9 and DS age 7 but I'm a bit worried that after ectopic I might stuggle.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By peacelily on Wed 22-Oct-08 22:06:51
Hi, I'm joining late too, had mc 5 weeks ago, according to ov sticks have ovulated since and despite advice to the contrary did try, but am expecting AF soonish anyway.

Already have dd(2) and we are desperate for a 2nd, mc has hit me hard, usually quite a coper but struggle with feelings o loss sometimes.

Anyway will be back onto "it" big time come mid October!! wink
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By bluesatinsash on Thu 23-Oct-08 11:55:38
Hi All,

Peacelily - sorry to hear about your MC. There are a few of us here following a MC <<hugs>> and know how fretful TTC is...

VillageMum - great that AF came on time (choo choo) and that your cycle is back to normal. Totally understand wanting to wait until your emotionally ready. I swing from being desperate to get pg to terrified that I can't handle the stress and knicker checkng that will ensue... Think my AF is starting today - two days late - glad its also back on track (aaargh - you have me on the railway metaphors now!). Still felt dissapointed though but too much to expect falling pg a mere 6 weeks after mc.

I just hope it happens soon - I'm 38 next May...
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By VillageMum on Thu 23-Oct-08 12:15:42
Welcome peacelily*,*theautomatic, memoo*...

*bluesatinsash
, well, I turned 39 in August! Discovered I was pg at the beginning of that month (and it was a total accident - one quickie in July three days before I ov'd. Just shows you. You have time, believe me!) I also swing between desperation to ttc again straight away now that AF has come and knowing that I should wait this month out because it will do ME good and help me handle a future pg with less stress. So far sanity is winning... You will get that BFP, don't you worry! x

peacelily, if I keep my nerve I'll be ttc again come late November, so let's keep each other company!
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By olivo on Thu 23-Oct-08 14:05:25