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Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Ready on Wed 09-Jan-08 18:12:13
Your very own thread grin
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By cityangel on Wed 09-Jan-08 18:26:19
Cool stuff can I join?
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Ready on Wed 09-Jan-08 18:27:03
Yay grin
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By cityangel on Wed 09-Jan-08 18:47:43
oops I just did!

Scan is on Friday... which cannot come soon enough! If it goes ok and I don't have CVS then I will be telling family/work from then. If not well back to the drawing board. I had no idea what a waiting game being pg is! Not that I am complaining.

3catsoo my dh had similar difficulty when under the weather I think it can affect them, although very frustrating. I tried not making a big about it because I think otherwise they think about it next time and it can become psychological. Try lots of zinc rich food to fix his cold and blush

Ready welcome down south I hope there are some perks... warmer...? Do you have lots of work to do on the new place? I know how football can take over although my dh is on the other side of the touchline!

I'm off to tidy up before dh gets back catch you guys later.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Ready on Wed 09-Jan-08 18:55:28
City YES!!!! 10 degrees warmer, I am certain of it. And much less rain! grin It's a rental place, so we are not having to do anything, which is nice for a while. Have applied for a job, so fingers crossed Dh
Are you over 35 City? I was surprised to see you mention CVS. I am sure everything will be just perfect. How long does it take for you to get the results? How do you feel?

3cats - Where are you? Did you get lost on the way wink
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By 3catstoo on Wed 09-Jan-08 19:49:10
I'm here.

Had to put the monsters to bed and Dh came home early aswell.

Can't stop long as have to cook for DH.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By 3catstoo on Wed 09-Jan-08 19:50:18
Thanks for setting up the thread Ready - it has my name in it blush.

I am utterly useless with computer stuff.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Ready on Wed 09-Jan-08 23:02:13
A special thread, especially for you 3cats Hope that you are doing ok? I reckon you and dh having a break from ttc and a chance to talk about another baby without pressure. Did you get a workout dvd yet?
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By 3catstoo on Thu 10-Jan-08 11:45:42
I haven't managed to get a DVD yet. Probably at the weekend.

I haven't said anything to DH about not trying. I will see if he notices any difference. Obviously if I'm taking tablets that are not suitable fot ttc I will have to tell him if he decides to not use a condom but I can't see that happening again.

So what's happening with you Ready, where are you in your cycle?

City, all the best for tomorrow hon.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By cityangel on Thu 10-Jan-08 22:25:17
Nipped on to say hi... probably won't be able to get online until Sat as going out tomorrow evening hopefully...

Good luck with your job Ready, when do you hear?

Hang in there 3catstoo sounds like its a wait and see thing?
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By 3catstoo on Fri 11-Jan-08 09:09:58
Morning,

Have a lovely day all round today City.

My GP called me yesterday to say that the antibiotics he had wanted to give to me only come in tablet form (I am a total wimp - I have never been able to swallow tablets so have to have liquids instead). So now I will have the one I've already had, which is safe for ttc.
Will still probably chill this month though.

How are you Ready?

xxxxxx
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By cityangel on Fri 11-Jan-08 14:00:08
Hi guys scan went well so fingers crossed. Thanks for all your support.

3catstoo good that the tablets are ok to take for bd just in case. I have all fingers/toes crossed for you!

Ready let us know about the job.

Have a great weekend.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Ready on Fri 11-Jan-08 17:30:01
Sorry I wasn't about yesterday, a busy bee

City - lovely news that the scan went well. How very exciting!! Hope you are having a great time this evening!! Celebrating with orange juice. I have had a few drinks in your honour (before ov)

3cats - I still think you are right to take a break, I mean, if dh doesn't reach for the drawer then just go with it, but if he does, then just enjoy yourself and relax. Hope your skin improves
I am CD23 (had to check) and veering between wildly optimistic and downbeat and pessimistic. I guess I don't have to wait too long to find out. I dunno, I guess with every month that goes by and we don't succeed, it feels less and less likely to ever happen without some kind of intervention. Sigh.
How do you take painkillers then? Dissolvable tablets? Eurgh. I had to have them for a throat problem once <wretch> I love the banana flavour antibiotic syrup grin makes me think of my childhood wink

Should hear wether or not I got through the initial stage and got an interview or not, hopefully next week. Then I guess the interview will be a couple of weeks later. So in the mean time I am thinking about doing some temping. Either of you ever done any?
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By 3catstoo on Fri 11-Jan-08 19:39:29
Great news City. Have a fab evening.

Ready, never tempted, so no help I'm afraid. Hope you get good news next week.
Don't lose hope in ttc. I have everything crossed for you. Huge hugs.

I have to chew painkillers (yuk yuk yuk) the dissolvable ones make me want to throw up even more than the taste of chewed paracetamolgrin.

I think it's going to be a wet weekend. It hasn't stopped raining all day.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Ready on Fri 11-Jan-08 19:49:04
I am trying not to lose heart, but 17 cycles in, if I don't get a + this month I will be gutted. Without being too graphic grin we have given it our best shot this cycle - the effort has to pay off eventually doesn't it hmm
Chewing painkillers! Eurgh. That's amazing. Poor you not being able to swallow them whole.
It has rained here all day long too, so I think you are right, a washout weekend.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By cityangel on Fri 11-Jan-08 23:56:36
Ready done some temping before. Best thing is to find a good agency, or work out which major employers in your area have preferred temping agencies then go for it! I only really have London links I can post, but there are loads online.

Its good to register with them in person as a lot of the online applications can be overlooke d because of high volumes. Then just call them lots of they can be all talk but never get back to you.

I hope you're not feeling too down about ttc. I found it hard when there was no reason and it didn't happen. On the positive side age is on your side, but I know exactly how it feels when you are ready and it isn't happening.

I recommend doing any of the following before you may choose not to

eat all non recommended foods brie/ parma ham/ rare steak/ sushi ... because you can
and have some wine for me :0)
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Ready on Sat 12-Jan-08 00:25:23
Thanks for the advice City There is a city not too far from where I live, and a couple of big towns - so will have a look about for some good agents. Thankfully there isn't any pressure financially speaking, but just from a challenging my brain, I need something.
I have a bottle of chenin blanc chilling in the fridge ready for next week, if CD1 rolls around then I fully intend to indulge. I was going to have some tonight, but then thought if I did turn out to be pregnant [pah-unlikely]hmm then I would be cross with myself - so just put it on ice for a few days. T'is hard going. I am up and down really - the optimism that I am known for (not just on MN) is waning that is for certain, and I don't like myself when I have negative thoughts - but it's been a lo-oong time since we started trying.

Anyway. Enough of my melancholic ramblings. Night night x
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By cityangel on Sun 13-Jan-08 16:45:24
ramble away I love rambling!

If there's not too much pressure financially maybe think of your dream job or something you find really interesting to target. I'd love to do something I actually enjoy rather than just doing it for the money?

Its good to get a decent agency as then the better paid more reliable roles come along. Good luck!
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Ready on Sun 13-Jan-08 17:47:55
Well, that is obviously a great idea, and certainly something I would love to do. The only snag is that we are liable to move around at pretty much no notice due to dh, as I am sure you understand. So that makes it difficult to commit to anything. For now it seems that just getting any job to keep my brain active is the best I can hope for. I guess I just need something to focus my mind and stop me thinking about ttc and babies and ftc.
Sorry for moping. Honestly, it's wrong for me to complain so much. I know that I have it good in life really. Someone slap me grin
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By cityangel on Sun 13-Jan-08 18:04:46
Moping is fine everyone gets down.

Maybe you could part time study for a career change so that if you settled you could go for it. Or go for a career that's freelance that could allow you to work from anywhere. Or maybe your own online business!

Maybe in a few months even if you're moving about you could look into fertility checks and options again just in case they missed anything before or have any fresh ideas?

I hope you find something fun to do to take your mind off things... maybe a new hobby or evening classes... photography, jewelry making...
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Ready on Tue 15-Jan-08 21:42:36
3cats, how are you doing? Are you enjoying your break from the stresses of ttc? And how are the antibiotics working out for you? You’ve been quiet, I hope my moping hasn’t made you run for the hills

City, I am doing a creative writing course, and really enjoying it. I like the idea of my own business, but don’t really know what. But then to be honest, in my field the pension is good, and the maternity benefits too, so I would be daft to become self-employed unless there was something that really grabbed me. I guess I am just having a low point at the moment. Thanks for all your thoughts though and taking time to give me a lift

We will go back to the gynae in a few months, once things are a little more settled, indeed. Although, not really sure what other tests there are??? I guess the real thing is assistance, and I am just petrified of that.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By 3catstoo on Wed 16-Jan-08 11:21:19
Hi Ready, you mope away. Goodness knows I mope for England.

Feeling fine.

Antibiotics not doing a thing. I'm spottier now although I think Ov is imminent. DH still not reaching for the drawer but he's been too tired. I'm feeling more frustrated blush than anything. I think my sex drive has returned with a vengance blush.
Not good when DH is too tired or away for the night.grin

Must dash. Will come back later to catch up.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Ready on Wed 16-Jan-08 21:29:36
Sorry to hear that the antib's are not doing anything 3cats. Tut. Is it a stress thing do you reckon? Might explain why the antibs are not doing anything. What skincare products do you use? I used to use Clinique and then suddenly one day my skin erupted, so I changed and since using LizEarle is has got way better. Sometimes I wonder if our skin needs something new??
I have been up and down, emotionally today, I hope I snap out of it soon, because I am annoying myself grin

Hope you are ok City
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By 3catstoo on Thu 17-Jan-08 12:50:01
Ready, Are you feeling any better today hon?

It annoys me when I feel that way but just can't stop it.

I am using Lancome products.

It could be stress. There is something bugging me at the moment (not a good thing and can't really share the details as it's a bit naughty (well alot naughty really blush shock hmm)totally out of character for me too).

Hope you are having a better day today. Have you heard about the interview yet?
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Ready on Fri 18-Jan-08 19:14:36
How are you???? Sorry it has taken me 2 days to post shock - most unlike me grin
How are you doing? Well, I won't pry (despite being very intrigued wink), but if something is bugging you, and you are acting out of character, then it could well be stress that is causing your outbreaks. Hope something improves for you soon. Be it the spots, or the situation, or both

Not got a date for the interview yet, starting to be a bit concerned. But trying not to think about it.

I am CD29 (usually 28 day cycles, but do have the odd longer one) and have had AF type cramps, so fully expecting CD1 tomorrow, but a tiny part of me keeps putting forward the suggestion of being pregnant. Nightmare. Why do I torture myself?

Anyway, enough of the ramble, I am attempting a vegetarian shepherds pie for dinner - never made it before, and not 100% convinced it is going to taste nice. Trying to eat less meat at the moment
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By cityangel on Fri 18-Jan-08 19:27:39
Good luck with your cooking Ready
Fingers crossed for you this month
I really hope the job stuff works out... sounds like you could be a chef if not!
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Ready on Sat 19-Jan-08 17:40:18
The vegetarian shepherds pie was not great. Not that I cooked it wrong, just that it wasn't a patch on proper lamb mince <drool> so think that the less-meat drive might not last very long grin

How are you both? I am still waiting for CD1, lots of crampy niggly sensations, which is normal for me, pre-men. So not optimistic. But hoping I am wrong hmm
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By cityangel on Sat 19-Jan-08 22:55:18
Fingers crossed honey

Is anyone else fed up with all this rain. Is it too early to be looking forward to summer or holiday? I just want to be outside on a balmy summers day reading the paper drinking a large glass of white wine..... heyho hmm
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By 3catstoo on Sun 20-Jan-08 09:08:15
Any news Ready?

How did the veggie shepherds pie go? What did you put in it?
If you like beans and lentils Delia does a great shepherds pie recipe in her veggie book (has goats cheese mash which does it for me).

Not really sure about the current situation.
I'm not cheating on DH (as such) but might as well be. It's more text teasing going on with a male friend (who is a bit of a b***d, well a huge one actually!).
I'm not doing the teasing. I think it's just cheap thrills on his part. I just haven't told him to bugger off (that's what's out of character). It won't come to anymore than this but still naughty I know.
Had I not been feeling so c**p about myself and if DH had been paying me more attention, I would not have responded. I was flattered and excited blush.

Dangerous, I know.

Fingers crossed for you.
No idea what day I'm on. Must look it up. As we're only bding at the weekends it's very unlikely to result in anything. Not stressed about it though. I think the other stress has taken my mind off ttc grin.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By 3catstoo on Sun 20-Jan-08 09:09:35
Sorry, I was on the wrong page, so missed the post about the shepherds pie not being good.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Ready on Sun 20-Jan-08 12:08:56
I don't actually mind the rain City but I am hankering after a holiday somewhere warm, but that's more cos I haven't had one for 3 years.

3cats, the shepherds pie was beans and carrots and parsnips - it wasn't overly tasty - the topping was the best bit grin Hope you are ok? Sounds like you are dealing with some confusing emotions at the moment.

I am useless today, all I can think about is why my period hasn't arrived yet, despite strong twinges. Confused.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By 3catstoo on Sun 20-Jan-08 18:34:13
Sounds promising Ready.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By cityangel on Sun 20-Jan-08 23:44:55
fingers crossed Ready big hugs either way as tomorrow is Monday and nobody likes Monday's still you like the rain so maybe you're a big wet Monday fan!

3catsoo you naughty bunny! still sounds like you're in control I hope things get better with dh

Right off to bed soo tired
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By 3catstoo on Mon 21-Jan-08 11:09:25
Hi City.

Yes feeling very naughty, but enjoying the attention. I feel like a teenager again!

Ready, I hope you are OK. AS City says, Hugs either way.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Ready on Mon 21-Jan-08 11:59:34
Tested this morning. BFN. But still on CD32. Time will tell. But realistically, if the cramps I am feeling were pg related then surely there would be enough hormone detectable for a test? So looks like the game is up.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By 3catstoo on Mon 21-Jan-08 15:27:52
Sorry Ready. Still crossing my fingers though, as you say time will tell.

Huge Hugs.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By cityangel on Mon 21-Jan-08 18:47:41
Oh Ready I hope it works out xxx
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Ready on Mon 21-Jan-08 19:00:44
Doesn't feel like this is meant to be my month somehow. Oh well.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By greedygreedyguzzler on Mon 21-Jan-08 20:46:51
oh i see!!!!!!!!!!! if i ever want to see what old 3 cats is up to i have to find her own personal thread do i????!!!!!

just thought i would check up on you..........and your chart spotters thread was SO far down the list!!!!!!!!

hope dh is obliging this month 3cats!!!

you asked what it is like with 3..............well......you should know!!! why didnt you warn me hey!!!!

actually its great, but ds (my eldest) has just started in reception and nobody ever told me he would change from an angelic little boy into a complete looney as soon as he got in from school!!!.......is that normal??? its REALLY doing my head in!!!!

my little marcy is a superstar....most chilled baby in the world..............kind of makes me want another (i can see why you do)......just to see what they would be like!!!

take care and i will probably nose in from time to time if thats ok?
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By 3catstoo on Mon 21-Jan-08 22:13:40
Hi Greedy. I'm with you on the school front. Mine all went loopy. I think school gets the best of them and unfortunately we are left with the tired, hungry grotbags!

Glad Marcy is being a totally chilled third baby.

My third is due to start school this year. 8 months to go! I'm dreading it. She is probably my last so I will have to move onto pastures new....sad.

Had a huge row with DH tonight. He told me that I should be putting my £500 a yeat earnings towards the new bathroom!!!!!!
That's all I earn compared to his £60,000. Damn cheek. All because I spent some of it on me, hair straighteners actually.

We both need to calm down now.

Night night.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Ready on Tue 22-Jan-08 15:44:14
oooooh hair straighteners... tell me you got ghds 3cats they are the best sorry you had a row with dh

waving at greedy, hope all is well looked at your profile - what adorable children you have Marcy looks as cute as a button, pmsl at the elvis pic <heart melts>

Well. Still no news from me. Temp dip but still no period. CD33, unheard of, no clue anymore. Tut.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By 3catstoo on Tue 22-Jan-08 16:02:26
Hi Ready. Very strange that you are non the wiser. Have you done another test?

Yes, I got GHDs. They arrived today and I now have very straight hair grin. DH will be so pleased (not).
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Ready on Tue 22-Jan-08 16:08:21
Every girls needs ghds grin Enjoy them
Nope, not tested today because I got a massive dip in temp and presumed that the game was up. Tomorrow then.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Ready on Wed 23-Jan-08 14:34:24
CD1 of cycle number 18 for me today. Gutted
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By 3catstoo on Wed 23-Jan-08 18:30:59
Oh so sorry Ready sad.
Many many hugs from me to you.
AF is so mean delaying like that.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By cityangel on Wed 23-Jan-08 20:24:32
Ready that's really tough... big hugs from me
That's really hard to be late and get AF

I can't think of anything particularly cheery upy, but hope you and dh have a chilled out time maybe some wine, cheese and a hug.. hang in there

I hope you've patched things up 3catstoo is your hair looking nice?

Not much new with me. dh and I were in the evening standard paper today random article + dodgy photo... one to laugh at!

cried at work yesterday (dead embarassing)

dh is cooking steak tonight and hoping Chelsea win so we can go to Wembley and thump Spurs... hmm
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By mibbes on Thu 24-Jan-08 13:21:38
3catstoo I am so sorry to gatecrash like this but spotted your name on the title of the thread - am not a stalker, don't worry !
I have been searching the archives for info on pre-AF spotting and found a thread from 2 years ago where you were going to see the doctor about having several days of spotting before AF. I have been having this too (between 5 and 6 days of spotting from 10dpo) and just wondered what the outcome was for you ?
Sorry again for butting in blush
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Ready on Thu 24-Jan-08 19:23:34
Mibbes, you are not butting in, I'm sure 3cats won't mind

How are you 3cats? and City

I am feeling a little better than yesterday. Had my interview... fingers crossed <eek>
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By cityangel on Thu 24-Jan-08 22:33:20
Glad you're feeling a bit better Ready
Good luck with the interview

Hello Mibbles Hope we can help.
I don't have any personal experience but sounds like they should do some hormone tests at different times of the month?

I am ok, bumbling along... always look forward to catching up in here.

PS: Just to let you know Seaside and MrsMC had their babies
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Ready on Thu 24-Jan-08 22:46:16
Oooh City, I knew that Seaside had her boy, Fettle told me, but oooh MrsMc grin what did she have? Send my love won't you.

I wasn't great in my interview today, I felt as if I was a bit waffley (what's new!) but time will tell

So are you glowing? grin
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By cityangel on Thu 24-Jan-08 23:26:20
MrsMC had a boy 'Xavier was born at 5.10pm weighing 7lbs 8oz'

Sadly I am not glowing... my skin is awful I cried at work in front of my boss (very blush) but I am not complaining...

Don't worry about waffling, at least you didn't clam up. If they don't want you they're not worth it and something better will come along!
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By 3catstoo on Fri 25-Jan-08 19:28:20
Hi Mibbles,

You are not butting in at all.

I had a laparoscopy to determine the cause of the spotting and pain that I was getting.

I'm sure the spotting was down to the slightly thick lining of the womb. It isn't endometriosis as the consultant thought.
I had other symptoms which were put down to other things.

It is worth seeing your GP about it though as there could be a number of reasons. He/she should refer you to a gyny.

Let me know what you do.

Good luck. Do you get any other symptoms?
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By 3catstoo on Fri 25-Jan-08 19:37:30
Hi City and Ready,

Fab news about Seaside and MrsMc. Any details?

Hope you both have a fab weekend.

I'm building upto AF. Had a migraine today, first for a month. More spots too. The antibiotics finally cleared the spots on my jawline but then more appeared on my chheks and chin.

Still not really had a chance to talk to DH. He is so tired all the time.
Probably won't talk tonight as he will be late and I have a migraine. He will probably complain about the state of the kitchen and that I have no idea what's for his supper.

Still 'texting' but not gone any further. Still excited by it and not sure what I want. Not really a good place to be at the moment. I know I don't want to ruin my marriage over a silly fling (mainly because I don't want to hurt DH and because of the children).

Still want no 4 bizarrly (sp?). I think this whole thing is possibly because of DH's attitude towards having another baby and towards me.
His female collegues at work get more attention than me.

Sorry that turned into another rant.
I don't feel down though. I feel quite good, just confused, excited, aprehensive, naughty, guilty, the list goes on.

Anyway, big hugs to you both.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By mibbes on Fri 25-Jan-08 22:30:18
thank you so much 3catstoo I'm trying vit B6 this cycle then off to the docs if no improvement. I appreciate you taking the time to respond smile
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By cityangel on Mon 28-Jan-08 00:42:32
Hi 3catsoo I hope it works out Things sound confusing and tough at the moment.. not sure I am going to be much help with that but fingers crossed you are happier soon.

Good luck Mibbles

Hi Ready, Big hugs. Was dh watching the footie this weekend or out there! Lots of big games and results to keep my dh very happy.

I am imaging you all send me hugs as today is a low day..

I went to see my grandma in hospital today who is very weak and I am off to bed all nervous as I am having 4 moles removed under local anesthetic tomorrow and although it doesn't sound like much I am really worried about it Still it's one way to get time off work hmm
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By 3catstoo on Mon 28-Jan-08 13:11:50
Hi City, Good luck with the op.

Why are you having a low day?

Lots of hugs for you.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By cityangel on Mon 28-Jan-08 14:29:07
thanks 3catstoo it went ok

I am just worried it could affect the baby, but they have re-assured us it won't.

The damn local anaesthetic is waring off so its quite sore now hey ho

How are you?
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Ready on Tue 29-Jan-08 16:15:23
Sorry for not being online for a bit girls, been busy. Had friends visiting for the weekend. Great fun, and am now still catching up with sleep grin I had a fair few glasses of vino, and was totally relaxed, which is just what I needed after the disappointment of starting another cycle. Onwards and upwards!

3cats, really sounds like you are going through the mill at the moment. Sending big hugs. I can’t really offer any advice, but I hope that you are ok? And always feel free to rant here, if it helps.

City, I am sorry to hear that your grandma is weak and in hospital I hope she is better soon. I am also sorry that you have had to undergo surgery during your pregnancy. Of course it is natural to worry about it, but they would not perform it if they were in doubt – the claim culture has made sure of that. So, do try to relax. Are they doing biopsies on the moles? Hope you are feeling ok?

DH was only watching at the weekend, slight muscle strain, which is annoying as he had found the back of the net in recent weeks, fingers crossed for a swift recovery.

Great news about XavierMcJnr… is there a name yet for SeasideJnr? grin Hope that mum’s are both well… send them my best.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By cityangel on Tue 29-Jan-08 18:10:23
Hi Ready, glad you got to relax You sound positive and fingers crossed this is the month.
Sorry to hear dh is injured I hope he's ok. Got any fun plans for this month?

Hi 3catstoo how's things?

As for me well a bit sore with 4 mole holes, but hopefully that will go. They are biopsying them fingers crossed on that. I should be braver about my grandma as she has dementia and is a good age, but its hard to watch the deterioration. On top of everything else a friend announced she was infectious with mumps last time we saw her. Me and dh have had it but an added worry nonetheless.

Seaside's baby is called Cassius grin I'll send them your best They're a busy bunch on there its hard to keep up!

See you all soon
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Ready on Wed 30-Jan-08 16:47:45
Cassius! Lovely! Great names on that there thread… in fact, all the names over there have been lovely, and not the norm either. What a cool bunch of gals grin Any thoughts on names yourself yet City?? <nosy>
DH is almost there, back running, so possibly have a late fitness test for Saturday’s game. We shall see. Fingers crossed. Lots going on this month, mainly consisting of eating out for people’s birthdays grin… oh and then I turn 29 very soon <eek> and hope to hear about the job soon too… What about you?
Fingers crossed about the biopsies, when will you hear? I should think something of that nature is done fairly quickly?

How are you doing 3cats? Have you had any more migraines? I know you had your first one of the month the other day. Have you been keeping a food diary to see if there is a trigger?
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By 3catstoo on Wed 30-Jan-08 18:13:21
Hi girls.

Sounds like you had a fab weekend Ready grin.

City, sorry to hear about your grandma. Fingers crossed for you re the biopsy.

I'm fine. AF is late but looming. No more migraines strangely. I usually get more than one around AF time.

Don't laugh now but I had my first bikini wax today. Boy am I red down there. Just a standard wax nothing fancy. Please tell me that this redness will go away?

I thought it would be a good idea as I'm swimming lots and am always concerned about showing more than i'd like when I get out of the pool. Now I'll have a lovely red rash to show off instead grin.

Lovely names that Mrsmc and Seaside have chosen. Hope they are both well and enjoying motherhood smile.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Ready on Wed 30-Jan-08 18:27:51
Do you have dark hair 3cats? I do, and I tend to get more ingrown hairs as a result, the darker the hair the thicker it is I think hmm - so definitely recommend LOTS of exfoliation, daily would not be overdoing it in my opinion grin to stop offending ingrowers. As for the redness, which is really what you wanted to know... it usually goes down by the next day, but did they say anything about swimming within a certain time? Never thought about the chlorine y'see? hmm and wondered. Redness will go, promise grin
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By 3catstoo on Thu 31-Jan-08 10:50:36
Thanks Ready. Yes I have almost black hair, very thick (on my head that is).
The redness has gone down a bit today but I can see a tiny red dot where every hair was blush.
Exfoliate down there? I'm new to all this.
She told me to use sudocream. I have to go out and get some. Would evening primrose oil help or is that a daft question?

No mention of swimming and I'm meant to be going tonight hmm.

AF arrived this morning. To be honest I'm a bit relieved in light of recent events. Still want number 4 but think I need to get my life in order.

Had a chat to DH last night. He thinks everything is fine between us. He suggested buying me a 'rampant rabbit' to bridge the gap between his ever decreasing libido and my increasing libido. grin angry

I might take him up on it to see his reaction.smile

He thought we had done quite well to get through 13 years before reaching this point.

I dread to think what he'll be like when he's in his 50's. He's 38 now and I'm 33. Never thought I would be having these sort of conversations at this age and worrying about DHs lack of interest. He just can't see the problem.

Do I sound like a sex mad deprived woman? (I feel that way actually - don't know what's happened to me) shock.

I think after having 3 children and breastfeeding each one for 18 months my body has only just recovered. Well that's my explanation anyway? Maybe it's my body craving for another baby hmm.

Is this normal what I am going through, do you think?
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Ready on Fri 01-Feb-08 17:11:15
3cats, pmsl, yes, I was referring to your head hair grin - since you have dark hair I would reiterate what I said about exfoliation - prevention is better than cure. Ingrown hairs are nasty angry I use an exfoliating sponge (a regular one with a rough side) and gently rub across the area in a circular motion, you don't have to get the exfoliating lotions if you don't want. The little red dots are just the skin freaking out, it will calm down Don't know about primrose oil benefits, but would say that any "soothing" oil should help.
Hope the chlorine didn't give you a reaction?

I am pleased that you had a talk to your dh - definitely good to open the lines of communication I am sure that I have read (probably Cosmo, or something, so not necessarily scientifically proven wink) that men's libido decreases with age, and women's increases - which seems rather odd for evolutionary purposes hmm... but it would certainly make sense with your situation grin

You don't sound sex mad at all. Sex is a crucial part of a relationship, imo, but if it is natural for the woman to start wanting more, but the man to start wanting less, somewhere in there has to come compromise.
I would also dare to venture that a stressful job can certainly have an effect on anyone's libido (man or woman).
A declining libido shouldn't translate that he has a lack of interest. Perhaps he is happy with quality over quantity grin
Is it possible that your strong sexual need is a way seeking reassurance of your relationship as a whole, more than just that of purely physical need? I may be way off here - apologies if I am - but when you were first married you may have had plenty of action, and is it possible that in your mind the declining amount is translating somehow as declining feeling?? I guess you saying his "lack of interest" made me think that it might be more than just a physical thing?? Sorry again if I have misinterpreted you. blush
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Ready on Fri 01-Feb-08 17:12:22
talk with... not... talk to - that was all wrong grin
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By 3catstoo on Fri 01-Feb-08 19:59:36
I didn't go swimming in the end, my friend was poorly and I didn't brave it on my own.

Thanks for the exfoliating tip though, I will invest in a sponge when I'm next in Boots.

I wish it was a case of quality over quantity grin. He's satisfied but I'm not. It's all a bit one sided suddenly.
He's happy to receive, put it that way, then rolls over and falls asleep. It only happens on Fridays and Saturdays blush.

I think you are right, his work related stress and heaps of travelling are having a huge effect. Although he doesn't see that because he thinks everything is hunky dory!

TMI alert..........


He thinks it's fine for me to perform oral sex and for him to fall asleep straight away. I make the first and last move and still end up being frustrated.

A friend in RL has suggested that maybe he is having an affair. It's possible but I don't think he is. It would probably make it easier in a bizarre way.

He was mortified when I said I would like to take him up on his idea of buying me a vibrator. He doesn't think I need one he was joking apparently when he suggested it.grin angry

Sorry I do go on. We've never hit a rough patch like this in our 13 years together.

He's out drinking tonight so I'll see if he's amorous when he gets back drunk (never works though as his mind and body have different ideas grin ).

Anyway, it's the weekend, something to be thankful for.
Have a good one.

Thanks so much for your support Ready, it really does help to chat to someone about it.smile
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Ready on Sat 02-Feb-08 10:50:20
shock Sorry, but that is not fair. Satisfying him and then he falls asleep shock - anybody would get frustrated with that. Certainly explains why he doesn't think there is a problem, he's getting plenty grin - perhaps you need to suggest he goes down first grin
He clearly has a stressful job, and I definitely think that will have an effect on him, but to the point where he gets his kicks and then rolls over, no no no no! angry
The only thing I can suggest (and it might take a lot of willpower) is to stop instigating things, and see what happens. Of course you run the risk of getting nothing at all shock - which I know isn't what you want - but if he knows it is "on tap" and doesn't have to work for it, then he's probably making the most of it. hmm??

You don't go on at all - if it is worrying you then why shouldn't you get it off your chest? Goodness knows I go on enough about still not being able to conceive a baby after all these months grin

Oh, and still haven't heard about the job... is that bad news do you think? hmm
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By 3catstoo on Sat 02-Feb-08 22:06:10
Sorry you haven't heard about the job Ready. I wouldn't think of it as a bad thing. Did they say they would let you know either way?
Sometimes it takes a while and it also depends how many candidates they had and how quickly they were all seen. smile

I'm glad you think DH is wrong to be on the receiving end and not consider me at all.

I might have to do as you say and stop initiating. AF at the moment so it's easy for me to withold. Although thta's when he usually wakes up in the morning (if it's a weekend) and asks for my helping hand !!!
I won't oblige if he does this time though.

Enjoy the rest of the weekend.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Ready on Mon 04-Feb-08 08:47:38
Good for you 3cats... deny the helping hand grin I definitely think he should be more considerate of your needs, rather than just his own.
Sorry that it is AF, but you kinda knew because of the antibiotics didn't you that the chance would be slim? Fingers crossed for you this month, if you will be trying that is
Weekend was good here - still no snow though envy
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By 3catstoo on Mon 04-Feb-08 12:49:22
No snow here either, although they keep promising!

Probably won't be trying this month. I need a marriage that's working before I think about ttc again. The feeling of wanting another hasn't gone away though despite the turbulance!

DH had no interest at the weekend. He was asleep at 9 last night.

It was feb last year that it snowed here. The school was closed and the children got to make snowmen all day. It was fab. Hopefully they will get to do it again this year.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Ready on Tue 05-Feb-08 20:21:09
Crikey! Your dh must be working too hard! In bed by nine.
I am sorry that the urge for another has not gone away... perhaps I should re-phrase that. I am no sorry, because there is nothing wrong with wanting another... I just mean that with everything that you are going through, it must be tremendously difficult to deal with the added factor of wanting another baby.

Hope you are ok? How's the wax-job? The bumps all gone?

Got a + the last two days on OPKs (well, I think they are +, as dark as the control, but not quite as thick - see what tomorrow brings to confirm or not) but as soon as dh gets in, I am going to pounce grin It has to happen for us soon... doesn't it?

I used to love it as a child when it snowed and we would listen to the radio in the mornings to find out if the school was closed grin
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By cityangel on Tue 05-Feb-08 23:43:59
hi sneaks in... hmm

I hope you are both doing ok.

I am bumbling along... bumble bumble

Have just about recovered from my mole removal blush now just waiting for the results

Well off to bed to tame the snoring monster!

If you fancy some laughs go and see Spamalot grin really funny!
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Ready on Wed 06-Feb-08 17:31:27
Hope the results come back quickly for your City, must be worrying.

3cats, hope you are ok?

<whispers> I got offered the job, subject to the usual security clearance and health checks, but been through those before and come out the other side, so feeling chuffed
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By 3catstoo on Wed 06-Feb-08 19:42:36
Huge Congrats Ready. Well done you smile.

Hope the pouncing works grin.

Hi City, good luck with those results.

I'm fine. No change. Won't go on about it.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Ready on Wed 06-Feb-08 21:05:22
Oh no if you need to say more 3cats, feel free. A problem shared and that? Don't worry about going on, you really aren't - I would tell you if you were!!

Have been told that the pouncing must wait until England have finished playing. Fine with me... glass of grenache, ah thankyou wink
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By cityangel on Wed 06-Feb-08 21:16:05
Congratulations Ready fingers crossed with the formalities Really pleased for you and you can have wine and rampant nookie to celebrate!

Hey 3catstoo keep us updated I hope things are getting better

Half way to the weekend
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Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By 3catstoo on Thu 07-Feb-08 13:44:38
Hope England winning meant you had a fab evening Ready wink smile.

I have a migraine today. Strange day to have one. Can't be cycle related hmm.

I thought DH might pay me some attention last night. He got some exercise, England won, I thought that might spur him on. But no, he chose to sit in front of the tv for a whole hour after I went to bed (which wasn't early either).

I think perhaps he just doesn't 'fancy' me anymore.

It makes the attention from elsewhere seem so much more welcome (does that make sense?).

Still no further than before on that front either but makes me feel wanted nevertheless. blush

I think maybe DH and I have just grown apart after 13 years and it's only just beginning to show (to me anyway, he's oblivious).

We will get to spend some time alone together in a few weeks time, so I'm hoping we can air a few issues and better our relationship.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By cityangel on Thu 07-Feb-08 23:39:21
Oh 3catstoo I am worried about you. I hope the time together helps. Are there any options to talk it through with a third party if things get tough?
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By 3catstoo on Fri 08-Feb-08 12:34:26
Thank you for your concern and support Ready and City.

I am worried about the state of my relationship with DH too. I think the main problem is that he thinks everything is fine. It will be good to talk things through without children around. There's nothing worse than needing to talk/argue/debate but having to think about what the children are hearing. We tend not to discuss too much in front of them. When they are around they consume all of the time so it is impossible to talk to eachother. Probably also where the problem lies. The children are our (especially mine) lives and we have kind of drifted apart without realising.

Well the migraine I think was actually the same bug as the children had. I had a high temp, was shivering, aching limbs, feel sick, sore throat, headache etc. All the same as the current bug that has swept through school.
Also have a red rash over my chest, tummy and back.
Hoping it will be short lived and I will back on form for the weekend.

Have you both got busy weekends planned?
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Ready on Fri 08-Feb-08 20:46:31
I think that it is important to get some alone time with dh, and talk things through. I also think it is important to be completely open with him about how you are feeling, tell him that you feel as if he doesn't fancy you anymore.

I do hope that your rash clears up - that could be a sign of stress? hmm and getting ill is because your defences are low.

You really are going through the mill at the moment aren't you I do hope you turn a corner soon. Thinking of you!

It's my birthday sunday, so dh planned a day of activities, and I have no idea what yet - but looking forward to it anyway
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By 3catstoo on Sat 09-Feb-08 21:10:37
Happy Birthday for tomorrow Ready.

Rash all now. I think it was part of this virus. Still aching but feel much better.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By cityangel on Sun 10-Feb-08 01:13:55
Happy Birthday Ready grin

I hope you stop aching soon 3catstoo...
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By 3catstoo on Mon 11-Feb-08 14:57:42
Did you have a fab day Ready?

Hi City. I feel much better thanks.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Ready on Mon 11-Feb-08 15:34:26
Hey girls... I had such a fantastic day. It was all a total surprise and it was so much fun. First we drove out to a michelin starred gastropub, which was soooo scrummy!! I was fit to pop at the end of the meal grin then it was on to the next surprise, which was tickets to see RhodGilbert (welsh comedian) at a comedy club, and I haven't stopped laughing. All the way home I was chuckling away. A wonderful day!!

Glad you are feeling better 3cats

City, how are you chick? Getting nice and fat wink
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By cityangel on Mon 11-Feb-08 18:12:02
Oh I am pleased you're feeling better 3catstoo, I hope things look up.

Ready sounds like a great birthday I love birthdays and comedy stuff!

I am good. Celebrating as I got the all clear from my mole biopsy this afternoon.
I have a small bump blush and fingers crossed its still ok.

I hope you both have a nice evening
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By 3catstoo on Tue 12-Feb-08 10:30:11
Sounds like a great birthday Ready.

Good news about the mole City. Like the sound of the little bump smile.

Think I'm being messed about with by this 'other' man. Still texting, just about but I really think he's screwing with my head. The worst thing is I'm hooked and can't get him out of my head. Why do B****S have this magnetic appeal?

I think it's case of bad timing really. If DH and I had been fine then I think I could have let this other one pass by.

I have no will power right now. Good thing it's just texts.

Must get on with my housework now as I have a houseful tonight.

xxxxxxx
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By cityangel on Tue 12-Feb-08 23:50:15
thanks 3catstoo.. maybe its the attention and excitement? You'll know deep down what the best way forward is xxx

Ready when does your new job start? I hope its good.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By 3catstoo on Wed 13-Feb-08 09:25:56
You're right City.

I feel like a complete fool today. We had arranged to meet up today (second failed attempt)but he called it off with a pathetic excuse. Second time he's done it.
I feel so silly for being taken in and constantly let down. Now I feel worse than I did before this thing started.

Hope you are both OK.

It's a lovely day here, just a bit cold but beautifully bright and sunny. Something to cheer me up at least. smile