If TTC # 2 has turned you into a nut job this thread is for you! (Part 3)

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fedupofrainydays Tue 20-Aug-13 06:57:43

Still here, still ttc, still POAS, still symptom spotting, still counting days, still temping, still shagging and still absolutely nutty!!!

threepiecesuite Wed 06-Nov-13 11:51:52

We had a month off this month. We were both ill over ovulation time so missed it, but it was good to take the pressure of for a month and af coming wasn't as upsetting as usual. Right back on it this month though!

sebsmummy1 Wed 06-Nov-13 12:18:30

Ooh I have a bit of probably silly news, but it cheered me up a bit.

A while ago my mum consulted a psychic lady regarding my TTC. She said she thought I would conceived next year, around June, it would be a boy and most likely an Aries. She also couldn't see me stopping bfing until after Christmas and felt this was impacting my chances. She also said there would be no problems with the pregnancy.

So I told my mum off and now two cycles on from that, decided to approach her anonymously myself lol. I asked if I would conceive another child and which month if any. I made no mention of the breast feeding as I didn't want her to think, hang on, this rings a bell.

She has just replied saying it would be another boy and I would conceive him between March and July next year. Also the possibility of one more child after that.

So I feel stupidly positive now as that isn't that long really if nothing happens in the mean time. I'm not planning on living my life to a psychics timetable, but seeing as she is pretty accurate generally and has loads of glowing testimonials from people that travel internationally to see her, I'm going to say she will be correct grin

Tallaween Wed 06-Nov-13 22:09:23

Hellooooo grin

Gosh I haven't been on for a while, don't know if any of the original nutters are still here to remember me (would probably help if I logged on the PC and changed back from my spooky halloween name)

Still TTC here, coming up to 2 years angry Good news is initial tests on DH and I have both come back normal and we've been referred to the fertility clinic. Just waiting for our first appt date to come through.

I feel a lot less 'desparate' now we know that there is nothing obvious wrong though, so maybe that will help. I've decided that I will donate some eggs if we do go the IVF rate which will cut our costs radically and hopefully give us two cracks at the whip. So exciting times ahead.

Dsis is due her 2nd baby on Xmas eve, DD -who's nearly 6 now, where did my baby go? - is beside herself with hoping he's born on her birthday in new year.

Here's to some lovely Xmas BFP's hey grin

zippygeorgebungle Thu 07-Nov-13 17:20:59

so sad for you, fedup. I find the time after AF waiting for a smiley slightly worse than the 2ww.

sebs, I've stopped the bfing now totally too so let's both see how it goes.

I'm just confused now. V low progesterone at the day 21 test last week despite my clearblue smiley a couple of days before, but no AF. Will be four days late tomorrow and that has never happened in 21 years of AF. Fairly clear I can't be pregnant though given I'm apparently not even ovulating. sad

sebsmummy1 Thu 07-Nov-13 18:09:14

Zippy I think you have done the right thing for your fertility re. giving up breast feeding (I'm not going to get into all the other emotions we are going through having both made that decision as I'll just depress us both). Least you now have nothing complicating the decision and I'm sure your body will get back to producing all the correct hormones again. Unfortunately it might just take a few more cycles to do that.

zippygeorgebungle Thu 07-Nov-13 18:22:11

thanks sebs. I think my 20 month old would have carried on for a long time and I know I have to stop sometime! Let's focus on bfing our second ones some day. I wonder if stopping delays AF? Just cant work out why she isnt here yet. x

fedupofrainydays Thu 07-Nov-13 18:52:11

Hang on zippy Did you just say you had your smiley a couple of days before day 21 test? If yes then it's likely you hadn't ovulated by the time the test was done or had just ovulated so you progesterone wouldn't have risen anyway!! Make sense? It's called day 21 based on exact 28 day cycles but its supposed to be 7 days before af is due. So I had mine on something like day 18 as my period was about 25 days if that makes sense? Although my cycles were all different lengths so it was hard to guess when 7 days before my period was!!!

fedupofrainydays Thu 07-Nov-13 18:52:36

Ps. I have dreams all the time about breastfeeding again sad

sebsmummy1 Thu 07-Nov-13 19:11:20

Yep fedup is right. The 21 day thing is based on the average cycle and really doesn't account for long cycles, late ovulation, short LPs etc. What are the professionals saying based on the progesterone reading?

Fed up are you still going to investigate some alternative therapies. I've found a couple if people near our new house. One an acupuncturist who specialises in infertility however it's about 40 per session. Then there is a guy who is newly qualified who us only charging 15 pound a session. Think when I'm settled I might email him and see if he has any experience re. TTC.

fedupofrainydays Thu 07-Nov-13 19:46:21

Sebs I'm not doing anything this month except going to mg gp. stopping all sticks and charting etc. I want to try a month off thinking about it too much and see where that gets me. Will look at alternatice stuff nexr month i think. Obsessing over a chart did me no favours last month! Apparently a year of ttc I can now get on a gp refer all for fertility help so let's see how that goes...

As far as random alternatives. I'm keen to go for the random somewhat illegal sounding injection someone I know had who got preggers immediately!! I am going to find out more... Watch this space!

sebsmummy1 Thu 07-Nov-13 20:07:04

PMSL, what the hell are they injecting you with? Very intrigued lol

fedupofrainydays Thu 07-Nov-13 20:10:54

I don't exactly know... That's what's intriguing. I need to find out!!

sebsmummy1 Thu 07-Nov-13 20:19:43

Maybe it's top quality horse semen injected up yr fandango grin

zippygeorgebungle Thu 07-Nov-13 22:34:04

Oh that sounds positive, thanks fedup! I am normally 27 days exactly so it was done 6 days before AF was due. But the smiley was 2 days before that. I'm grateful, this thread has given me far more information than the call from the locum GP the other day basically resigning me to secondary subfertility as a result of my low levels and saying it was largely untreatable.

Intrigued by both the acupuncture and the injection!

sebsmummy1 Fri 08-Nov-13 06:54:48

Omg zippy that is not true!! They are such bastards giving you that information and basically walking away. Honestly ignore ignore.

This sounds very similar to my situation and my cycle has now normalised. Breast feeding tends to give you a short luteal phase which makes implantation very difficult. It's to do with prolactins effect on progesterone I believe.

Anyhow, your hormones will now slowly change, you watch. I'm amazed the doctor didn't suggest giving up breast feeding as your first port of call, not say nothing could be done!! Disgusting.

fedupofrainydays Fri 08-Nov-13 07:32:59

Hi ladies. Should I be worried? My period has been super light the first two days (this is day 3) and normally it's pretty heavy for 2 / 3 days then tails off for a about another 3 days of spotting. Aggghhhh. I just want normal!!
I couldn't get a gp appt with the one I want so have to wait til Monday to try get one and try get us referred to fertility help.

sebsmummy1 Fri 08-Nov-13 07:37:49

Have you tested again to make sure it isn't implantation bleeding?

fedupofrainydays Fri 08-Nov-13 07:43:55

I couldn't feel less pregnant. No, not tested. I'm paranoid it's ectopic as late and then light periods are a symptom. Will buy a test if stays weird over the weekend. Spent a fortune on tests being late this month so don't really want to wee on many more £5 and £10 notes unnecessarily! I don't think it's implantation as that would be so late and not sure we had sex late enough in cycle for it to be that (if that makes sense!!) it would be IB at 16 dpo which isn't normal.
TBH it's prob just a weird period. Not what I wanted after being late but hey it's not all going my way anyway!!

sebsmummy1 Fri 08-Nov-13 09:03:21

Well I certainly had lighter periods before I got pregnant with sebby. I can remember starting to notice things like EWCM and periods and knowing that both had become much more sparce as I'd got older and wondering if that was going to scupper my chances of conception (it didn't!).

Now I have more of both and I can't get knocked up lol. So don't take it as a bad sign, it could just be a good one!!

fedupofrainydays Fri 08-Nov-13 10:51:23

Thanks. I have been for a run and that has seemed to get it going a bit more but still black, dark blood. No red blood. I think I just need to stop analysing it all!!!

sebsmummy1 Fri 08-Nov-13 17:01:40

Well the doctor rung me today to talk about my test results. Apparently I am in the midst of an acute episode of glandular fever (my thyroid is fine lol). It's all very weird as I am showing no outward signs of GF and I had it badly as a teenager and she said I cannot get it again!!

Have written a thread in the Health area on here as I'm a bit scared the abnormal cells they are looking at might also be indicated in another disease or something. I'm going back in a week to have them redone and I guess they are hoping they are normal again and we can just scratch our heads about this set of results and assume its a relapse or something.

fedupofrainydays Fri 08-Nov-13 20:09:08

I thought gf stayed in your blood for life once you have had it. I've also had it twice, once at college and once at uni. Second time I had relapses for a good few years afterwards. It's nasty, so hope you are ok sebs. My periods also stopped after the uni episode. Doctors thought it was because my body couldn't carry a baby so it shut down my menstrual cycle. Looking back I think I was just too thin and it was that which was the problem perhaps.

So now I have watery blood. I've got no idea what's going on but all a bit weird so hoping to see the doctor I saw before next week.

sebsmummy1 Fri 08-Nov-13 20:42:53

I did say that to the doctor but she seemed confused. Having had a good google about reactivated mononucleus (this seems to be the infection name) it seems that it can be reactivated without symptoms, so I assume this is what has happened.

It doesn't seem to be contra indicated with pregnancy so I think unless I start showing symptoms, I'll just carry on as I was. I would be non the wiser had I not asked for the blood tests in the first place. Plus the way things have been going I won't get knocked up anyway lol.

sebsmummy1 Mon 11-Nov-13 09:59:19

Haven't had a chance to obsess about TTC the last few days as I've been so busy, also haven't been able to bd either so hopefully my o

sebsmummy1 Mon 11-Nov-13 10:00:46

Opks are right and I would 'be making love just for fun' currently grin. Have felt a bit tired and cold over the weekend but nothing to make me think I was particularly under the weather. Hoping my blood test has improved when they look at it again later this week.

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