TTC 10+ months part 16

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Buzzybee123 Thu 11-Jul-13 20:01:18

New thread for the lovely 10+ers.

seaviewasia Thu 11-Jul-13 20:03:38

Thanks Buzzy for sorting out the new thread! Hope this is a good 'un for everyone! x

Buzzybee123 Thu 11-Jul-13 20:11:33

Hey ladies I don't know if there is another thread already set up hmm

rabbit this does prove that despite your FSH levels etc that you can get pregnant, there could be many reasons why it didn't work this time, I do think you should let your GP know so it is recorded. As for immune issues I found it quite comforting to have a reason why I miscarried and that there was a solution, its not a great solution but one that so far has worked. IVF could just be what you need to make it work smile

euro sorry about the crap announcement and that Mr E is not well, why do men not look after these things and leave them so long. Soon you'll be your hols getting ready for round 3 smile

sea yay to getting on with the Humeria, hope you get the prescription soon, I am glad Mr S is a little better

eurozammo Thu 11-Jul-13 21:58:54

Thanks for getting the new thread going buzz.

roomyenoughforacritter Thu 11-Jul-13 22:02:09

Just marking my place - thanks for the new thread buzzy. May this be a lucky one!

Turned out they didn't give me a scan, just a heartbeat check with the doppler - but the heartbeat was still there which was a relief. Loves to all.

rabbitonthemoon Thu 11-Jul-13 22:25:57

Thanks buzzy for thread 16 (gulp). And thanks all for a love and a boost.
Sar you always make me feel better, thank you. Buzzy are you still on your steroids? And is that all you take?

Critter hurray for a heartbeat smile

Cosmos thanks for adding to my tumbleweed thread!

I am still having red fresh bleeding in random gushes hmm with small cramps and clots (sorry) but its on and off, not like a period. I find that I am most distressed with ttc when my periods go haywire. After the op I was very anxious and I feel the same now. I like knowing when I will ov and when to expect af. Now I'm in no mans land which is a right arse given I'm going in my holidays this weekend and trying to gain a sense of when I can do day three tests etc. I feel all muddled up. I've also been hit with baby longing. The sun does bring a lot of cute babies in paddling pool type Facebook photos. Sigh.

Cosmos1 Thu 11-Jul-13 22:43:01

Rabbit lovely sounds like a very early miscarriage to me, which would explain the emotional upheaval too. Dont give up hope. You WILL get your baybee!

eurozammo Thu 11-Jul-13 22:58:05

rabbit I agree with cosmos. Take care of yourself.

mrsden Fri 12-Jul-13 10:32:30

Thanks for the new thread buzzy. I'm pleased you're sticking with us for a bit longer. I do sometimes lurk on the grads one but it can make me feel a little sad because I so desperately want to join you there.

Pout and sea, I'm so very sorry for your losses. Grieving is long and painful. I'm sorry to that people could say such insensitive things to you sea.

Pout, when will fet happen?

Sea, yay to humira. One step further.

Euro, I'm gutted it didn't work for you this time. I agree third time lucky. Concentrate on your holiday now and let yourself relax and recover. As an outsider looking in, I agree that mild male factor is probably the issue. Numbers of sperm are important because of the tortuous journey and all the other factors stacked against conception. Did your dh ever get a full hormone profile? Did he go back for the further checks? Even as a couple where severe male factor is the culprit, I still find all the focus is on me. The clinic aren't that much interested in dh so long as he can do his sample.

Rabbit, it does seem like a cp. I know it's tough, but maybe this is a sign your body is really trying to do something. Ivf might just be the kick it needs.

As for me, I'm rested and relaxed. Holidays are wonderful but they do give you time to think. When I'm busy at work I can push it all out of my mind. I've started thinking more and more that it won't happen and I've been making little plans in my head for a child free future. I've not yet shared them with dh who is still firmly in the camp of believing it is going to happen.

Has kmid not had the baby yet then? I saw the other one was upduffed and read some nauseating thing about them having chosen a window in which to be pregnant that fitted in with rugby and horses. Imagine being able to choose a date in the calendar.

Critter, woo hoo for 12 weeks. Do they not do the 12 week scan then? Will thy not do the standard nuchal tests and measurements?

When I was going through ivf I'd worked out that I would be 12 weeks while away. It makes me feel a little sad when I think about how in a daydreaming moment I'd planned to tell people when we returned from holidays. I refuse to do any sort of date planning with the next round.

mrsden Fri 12-Jul-13 10:51:35

There's an article on immunes and intralipids here, warning its in the fail. www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2361112/Mayonnaise-miracle-babies-150-IVF-attempts-controversial-egg-yolk-oil-jabs-theyre-mums-last.html

I haven't done any research into this area at all as we have an identified cause. I do find it interesting that it seems to be so controversial, and I'm surprised that there haven't been any trials.

Buzzybee123 Fri 12-Jul-13 11:22:14

rabbit I should just be on the steroids as mine were not very high but as I couldn't get on with them I asked for the hydroxy and as I am neurotic and paranoid I also have the intralipids. it depends on who you see to what they will recommend.

critter sorry yo didn't get to see your baby, when do they do tthe NT test, would you have a private scan

mrsd I haven't read the article but will do so later, glad you are feeling refreshed after your hols

euro not long till you are in the sun smile

Poutintrout Fri 12-Jul-13 13:45:38

rabbit what a horrible time you are having. I am so sorry. I agree with buzzy (?) that it might be a good idea to speak to your GP, not least to get things logged but also because you might need some help on the iron front. Please don't panic that your cycles are up the spout again. It will only be temporary. It is a bummer though that you are about to start baseline testing. I don't really know what to say that will be comforting to you. The other ladies have said it all so much better. On the one hand your cycles having got back into a synch and a CP is a positive sign but I can totally see that would be floored by it. All I will say is that I am thinking of you and offer a virtual hand hold. X

euro I am sorry that the universe is still putting you through the wringer too. Hope that MrEuro is feeling better soon and that your holiday does you both good. Sorry about the A+ FB pics. Excellent timing eh!

mrsd So nice to see you back from your hols. Hope that you had a good time. I too have really come round to thinking of my future as childless. When I think of TTC now I just get this voice in my saying "that ship has sailed". Oddly I feel okayish about it. I think that I am ready to admit defeat and feel that I have put up a good fight. Also I am feeling that at nearly 38 I am too old now to really enjoy having a baby. I really think that I would struggle.
It's sad that you had planned how far along you would be coming back from your holidays. I have lots of stupid milestones still and can't believe that it is yet another series of The Apprentice and Big Brother and I still don't have a baby.

Who was it who said that they regret people knowing about the infertility & it feeling suddenly intensely private? I just wanted to say how much I agree with that especially given how close to the end of the journey I am feeling. I just don't want people knowing that I failed. I would much rather people just assume that MrP and I have such a good life that we didn't need babies.

Anyway, I have missed so many of you. Such lovely news critter that you heard your baby's heartbeat. Congratulations smile

Thank you buzzy for the new thread!

Love and waves to all.

Buzzybee123 Fri 12-Jul-13 17:34:09

my hairdresser was telling me her cousin tried for 9 years, had two lots of IVF, gave up started living the childless life and is now updiffed hmm she said she was having such a wild time being child free that they were concerned about her, I am never too sure what to make of these stories, are they meant to make me feel ok and that everything will be alright or just make me feel crap as it won't ever happen that like.

I've had a mother of an afternoon, nearly went postal, my poor physio was waiting for the emotional hissy fit down the phone, he said he was quite surprised at how calm I had been hmm he also referred to me as his 'english mother' not sure how to take that comment

I am now having a cold drink and waiting for Barry to get home

pout would you consider adoption or is it not in your plans ??

mrsden Sat 13-Jul-13 09:25:02

Guardian article on ivf, very interesting. I'm so grateful that ivf exists, without it I'd have no hope at all of ever having a baby. www.guardian.co.uk/society/2013/jul/12/story-ivf-five-million-babies

Poutintrout Sat 13-Jul-13 10:34:51

buzz fastens flak jacket in the hope that you are less postal. Resists urge to call you (English) Mum! everyone seems to have one of those stories don't they! I suppose there are people who suddenly and spontaneously pop out a baby after years and years. Not sure how comforting I find the prospect actually. Definitely not up for adoption in the Pout household.

Rubbish weekend already at this end. Big Dog is limping to the point of dragging his foot behind him. Seems to be his hip. He's off to the vet in a bit. Soft Ollie (MrP) made the helpful comment last night of how he hoped it wasn't anything too serious with the hip and that the vet can sort it because when the hips go they put the dog down shock and sad FFS at this point it could just be a sprain and I don't need to contemplate losing my dog. He can be such a prat.

Buzzybee123 Sat 13-Jul-13 10:47:24

pout I am calmer today thanks, so sorry to hear about big dog, if it has just happened then it is most likely a sprain or torn ligament, he might need a bit of physio on it but most likely told to rest it.

mrsd I do think IVF is the way forward with babies, I am surprised how many people I know who have had it, the other day I found out a friend at home had all her 3 by IVF, its just a difficult topic to talk about as its a very personal thing.

Kayla caught a fly again last night, I could hear it buzzing in her mouth as she ate it shock

mrsden Sat 13-Jul-13 11:14:17

Yuk at the buzzy fly, buzz.

Pout, I agree with buzzy that if its come on suddenly it's more likely to be an injury. What did he get up to yesterday? Wishing him well. My neighbour's dog has arthritis in his hip and has a little trolley thing to give his legs support while he's out and about. He's so cute and always seems happy.

Af has arrived so no surprise holiday conception. I think it was an another non egg laying cycle. I do worry that ivf has really buggered me up. That's two duff cycles since. I'm feeling crampy and a little bit weepy, not helped by the thought of work on Monday.

This thread is a little bit quiet, come n 10 plussers show yourselves. Joy, I miss you, I hope everything is ok.

Rabbit, how is the bleeding today?

Lemon, is ec close now?

Buzzybee123 Sat 13-Jul-13 13:14:41

mrsd the whole fly thing disgusts us, they seem to fly around in a circle in the middle of the living room like its the Bermuda Triangle
I am sorry AF has arrived for you sad is it Sept or Oct when you will try again with IVF??

lemon you must be very close to EC

pout let us know how big dog is, I hate to think what Barry would be like if anything happened to Kayla hmm he thinks she is going to live forever

rabbitonthemoon Sat 13-Jul-13 13:46:29

I'm in the car on the way to much anticipated hollydays. We are in a traffic jam!

Welcome back den. Sorry no holiday diffedness. I had visions I'd be pregnant by this holiday. I should really stop doing that. Your comment about how grateful you are ivf struck a chord with me. I miss joy too. I hope she pops in just to reassure us that she's ok.

Pout poor big dog. My pet had a limp but it turned out to be a paw thorn.hopefully the vet will locate the problem and mend it. Tut at mr p! Also you are NOT too old! Promise.

Buzzy shock at fly in cats mouth. That made me do a mini gag.

Afm, well today the bleeding has totally settled down and my headache is easing. I also slept well for the first time in ages so I think my hormonal storm is over. I am curious to know when I will ovulate. Think it could be a while. Trying not to get the barrengloom. It is too nice weather and its holidays. I'm also ignoring what feels like thrush hmm but I have been derailed from my positive vibes a little. This sucks! I want to take my baby paddling and watch its face when it eats ice cream. I hope I get there one day.

I'm only in the uk so will be around I'm sure this week. Any lurkers out there come make yourself known and keep us all company!

lovesLemonDrizzleCake Sat 13-Jul-13 13:55:50

Hello lovelies!

Sorry I've been awol, keeping up with work and coping with the side-effects of the devil's juice has been pretty much all consuming. Still better than pill+DRing but ever so tired and headachy... EC is hopefully close, scan tomorrow to check how things are progressing. Nearly all were less than 10mm last Wed, so they sent me off to step for another 4 days. I am completely through with stabbing, so that will get me in the right fram for EC. We're expecting the middle of next week for it. These IVF-months take full months instead of my usual 26 days. A bit tedious...

Waves and pets and comforting noises all round. Too slow to properly name check. Am contemplating a nap!

Buzzybee123 Sat 13-Jul-13 14:07:36

rabbit it could muck up your next cycle, I suppose just poas on ovulation sticks just in case maybe count the first day of the recent bleeding as CD1, enjoy your hols smile Yes it made me gag too hmm its not like she isn't fed

lemon wow its very close then, a nap sounds good but I need to get to Tesco, I have run out of limes for my Mojitos and I need one for my BBQ tonight

for those green fingered ones among us, how many trusses of tomatoes do you let each plant have before you chop the top off, one of mine is growing into a Triffid and feel he needs sorting out

roomyenoughforacritter Sat 13-Jul-13 14:40:36

den I am sorry about the holiday daydreaming. It must be incredibly hard. I have really high hopes for your next cycle - I do think they buggered up your last one. Thanks for posting that Guardian link - I am also so unbelievably grateful for IVF. Very interesting about the new developments in it over the past few years.

rabbit What a horrible week - thank goodness you're getting a break now. I'm so sorry about the early mc, which is what it sounds like. Awful. Just when you were getting back on your feet, this happens. I do think that you will be a mum though, I really do - you've got your IVF cycle coming up, and there's every reason that it will work. Sperm is clearly meeting egg and things are happening. You might just need a little push in the right direction, courtesy of the docs. And it is such a relief to outsource the process, if you see what I mean.

pout I am so sorry about Big Dog, I really hope he is ok. Also really sorry to hear you've been so down. I don't think 38 is too old, far from it! Did you know that in one of the big hospitals where I am, 38 is the average age for women to have their first baby? The average! So not too old at all and besides, Colin is still waiting to come home to you.

cosmos hope the FET countdown isn't too stressful.

lemon you are off to the races! Hurrah for EC being nearly here. I know it is a marathon while you're doing it, but just hang in there... you're nearly there. I'm cheering on your eggs!

euro have an amazing time on holiday and eat lots of yummy food and enjoy lots of delicious wine.

buzzy shock at Kayla and the fly! Wow at triffid like tomatoes - sounds like the weather in the UK is amazing at the moment.

Ginestas Sat 13-Jul-13 19:38:51

Bugger just tried posting to the old fred. Anyhoo, hello all! Sorry for the long absence. Hope you are all enjoying this amazing weather! Am gonna attempt a catch up but soz for anything missed. I've gone for a name change, do pm me if you can't work out who I am...

Firstly so sorry to hear all the sad news on here. sea I hope you and Mr S are ok. Such a terrible thing to happen and then those awful comments from people at the funeral. Good news that your tb treatment is progressing and ivf getting ever nearer.

pout I can't believe you are in the same situation. Btw you are totally not a cold fish emotionally - you come across as v warm and caring on here (plus regularly make me laugh a lot). Hope Mr P is ok. How's the monitoring cycle going? I'm sure big dog will be fine. Last year a vet nurse told me when I was booking an appointment for my fur baby that it sounded like she might need to be put down from the symptoms <cue hysterical sobbing> but she was fine and still here a year later!

euro sorry about the almost bfp. 2 kind of successes out of 5 eggs is amazing. It took me 23 eggs! Hope you have a lovely hollibubs.

rabbits it sounds like you almost got the golden egg too last cycle. What a massive head fuck. To still have been getting bfps after the bleeds must have meant pretty high hcg levels. As others have said, with ivf they'll be able to pick the creme de la creme of your embies and clearly your womble does let things implant, so I think you have a v good chance of it working. Have a fab holiday.

mrsd pleased to hear your holidays were good, but sorry about the ttc gloom. I was thinking I'd never have children and now still have a hard time thinking of myself as a preggo - I genuinely never thought it would happen. It's really odd to suddenly be one! You have only had 1 ivf cycle, on which they screwed up the timing of EC. Please don't give up hope yet.

What an amazing number of follies lemons! Sounds like you may well end up with something for the freezer. EC must be near now - lots of good luck!

critter How lovely to hear the HB. Hope there were no more rude comments!

grouch hope things are good with you too.

cosmos the agrc back up plan sounds sensible. The hardest thing about doing my FET was that it felt like it was the last chance for us and I just didn't feel ready to give up. Plan Bs always help. I don't know how anyone manages to cycle at agrc and work. Would you be able to get some time off?

medusa nice to see you again, though so sorry to hear bout the second MC.

buzzy I've had some grumpy hormonal days recently too! The heat doesn't help. Am still sniggering at Kayla's buzzing snack smile

Waves to nellie, mad, doll, sar and everyone else I've missed.

I too am incredibly grateful for ivf. Without it, there is no way i could have Mr G's baby. All's well here and time is chugging on to the 20 week scan, which is actually at 21.5 weeks in early Aug. It's odd, I'm not even thinking about the anomaly checking part, but rather just desperate to see there's still a baby there.

Buzzybee123 Sat 13-Jul-13 20:45:07

gine welcome back, I can't believe you are so close to your 20 week scan, hope you had a lovely holiday

MissMedusa Sat 13-Jul-13 22:38:13

Why is it that every one else gets pregnant in about 8 seconds? What is so wrong with us that this thing that is so easy for every one else is so fucking hard for us? Today is cd1 of first post MC cycle and, of course, I'm bleeding like a stuck pig and feeling very sorry for myself.

Sorry about the me post, needed to vent somewhere other than at the sparkling mothers to be.

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