If this isn't implantation bleeding, what the hell is it?!

(76 Posts)
Shnook Wed 10-Apr-13 23:14:45

Right - with 1st baby, cycle was always exactly 27 days. Had few pink dots of spotting a few days before period due and that was that -pregnant -great!

TTC again now and periods are less consistent - every 26-29 days. Did ovulation test on day 8 and it was +ve although I was sceptical as period only ended 2 days before and although the lines matched they were quite pale. Did the deed though and next day OT was -ve.

Now on day 12, I have been bleeding all day. Started only when I wipe - first red, then watery red. have put a pad on tonight and thats got brown staining but again when I wipe, its watery red. Surely this is all too early too be an implantation bleed?? So what is it? Should I be concerned??

Shnook Sat 13-Apr-13 22:55:22

Willitbe, thank you. And sorry to hear of your miscarriages. I'm never going to know for sure what happened (unless, I suppose, it happens again and I have some kind of tests). But I've just got to keep trying and hope I get pg soon. I'm just kicking myself for not starting to TTC sooner - think I stupidly thought it would be as easy as the first time round.

Soon as this bleeding stops, I will be POAS like there's no tomorrow!

willitbe Sun 14-Apr-13 07:42:43

Shnook, just one more suggestion, in case you are waiting for opk being positive before having intercourse, opk's can be very misleading, as a previous poster said you can ovulate before the opk turns positive. I was involved in a fertility trial and it showed that if I had waited til positive opk, the on most months it would have been too late. Sperm are better being in place before ovulation.

Do google the "sperm meets egg plan" it is on a miscarriage website, but it is a very good plan to follow using opk's. (apologies if you already know this!). Hope you get pregnant soon.

Shnook Sun 14-Apr-13 07:51:12

No, I didnt know that! So basically I just need this bloomin bleeding to stop so I can get to work!!

Interesting that you were involved in a fertility trial - I hope it worked for you??

FloJo151 Sun 14-Apr-13 08:16:08

hi Shnook, i had something similar last aug. I had a period which finished on a sat, the following wed (having dtd sun and mon!) started bleeding again but only brown discharge, this stopped on he sat so did a test on mon morn was +ive so did 2 more, mon avo and tues morn with fmu which were both +ive. the following week did another test on the mon -ive, started bleeding the next day. According to the midwife its very unlikely that i got pregnant just before the brown bleeding as timescales were not big enough so either iwas pregnant before the period before or that period was in fact an early mc and the +ives were picking up left over hormones (although i had a -ive est before that period) So really i still dont know entirely exactly what happened! My periods were always on time after but were 24/5 day cycles until the new year when they went up to 27. hope it all works out for you smile

Shnook Sun 14-Apr-13 08:29:27

Hi flojo151. encouraging to know youve experienced something similar. Did the bleeding reset your periods or did it come when you wouldve expected it if you'd not had the weird bleed?

Souper Sun 14-Apr-13 08:45:12

Hi. I think you were pregnant. The OT would be positive in this case not because you were ovulating but because you were pregnant. A PT tests for a hormone called HCG and a OT tests for a hormone called LH. They are really similar homones and a OT will often show a positive result to HCG. See poas.com for details of how you can sort of use a OT as a pregnancy test. I can't link as on phone. Hope you are okay OP.

Shnook Sun 14-Apr-13 08:50:51

Hi souper. Only thing is, the OT was +ve on day 8, then -ve on day 9, then bleed started day 12 and +ve pg on day 13 - so if I was PG, it's odd that I had that -ve OT.

It's all v strange. But yes, I am ok thank you smile

Souper Sun 14-Apr-13 08:53:30

That is true but false negatives are much more common than false positives. And an early miscarriage makes much more sense than a 'hormonal blip' confused

Shnook Tue 07-May-13 20:27:37

Update - got my af today exactly 28 days after the random bleed I first posted about. So it must have reset my cycle.

Really quite down about it, especially as I did OPKs after that bleed stopped and never got a +ve. Closest I got was Sat 27th (18 days into cycle) when I got a dark line (but not dark enough). Other than that I either got no line or just a very, very faint one. Did Opks up to the following monday - didnt seem much point after that. Does this mean I'm not ovulating??!

Shnook Wed 08-May-13 15:54:04

HELP! AF hasnt kicked in - nothing on pad, just notice it when I wipe. Started off red (and thick gloopy) and - tmi -even dripped down my leg in shower on 1st day (yesterday). Today there was red gloop this morning and now brown gloop/ brown tissue when I wipe.

SOOO....just did a pg and got a v feint bfp!! Is this an implantation bleed or a mc?? When I had implantation bleed with dd, it was literally a one off of a few dots of pink.

Shnook Wed 08-May-13 16:36:47

...just been to loo again.nothing on pad still but definitely red blood when I wipe. This is going to end in tears isn't it?

Shnook Wed 08-May-13 19:52:55

Please -any advice anyone?

Hegsy Wed 08-May-13 20:14:09

Is there a local EPU you can contact? Wish I had some proper advice but I have no experience sorry xx

Shnook Wed 08-May-13 20:34:48

Hello Hegsy, thank you for your response - I'm not sure actually, will have a look. Thing is, when I had the weird bleed I originally posted about, I called 111 and they just told me to see GP. I'm just praying the bleeding stops and that I get another +ve tomorrow. I guess I'm just hoping someone else has had the exact same thing and it turned out ok.

Shnook Thu 09-May-13 07:52:58

No bleeding overnight. Did a test this morning, still +ve but v, v feint which I take as a bad sign. As soon as I did the test, I noticed blood again when I wiped, with a big bit of mucous in it. Cant see that this is going to turn out ok. Seeing GP on weds. Trying to be philosophical but really worried it's going to keep happening.

So what can I do to prevent this happening again, if anything? I'm trying to stay healthy, taking vits, not had alcohol at all since christmas...anything else?

BartBaby Thu 09-May-13 12:52:41

Hi shnook, again im sorry i have no advice for you either, im not sure what is happening but i really hope the doctor can help. We have fingers crossed for you though xx

Shnook Thu 09-May-13 13:20:56

Thank you so much Bartbaby. X

Shnook Thu 09-May-13 16:57:05

Hope I'm not doing people's heads in with my constant updates - but I just did another test (just can't help myself) and this was +ve with a definite strong line. It was a CB test - the one I did yday which was faint was a First Response as was the one this morning which was even fainter. Im stupid arent I? Because now I've got my hopes up that all will be ok even though im still getting blood when I wipe.

lia66 Thu 09-May-13 17:00:23

I would self refer to epu or ask gp for referral ASAP where they will possibly scan you and or do blood tests . Hope it works out for you. Fwiw, if you were very early pg it's unlikely you'd still be getting +, as the hormones would diminish quickly in the early weeks.

Have had several mc at different stages. Good luck x

Shnook Thu 09-May-13 17:29:29

Thank you - going to call GP tonight, then Epu. Thank you all so much for reading/replying. X

BNmum Thu 09-May-13 22:05:34

I hope the GP can give you some answers Shnook and confirm your BFP.

Shnook Thu 09-May-13 22:52:09

Thank you, BNmum. GP was closed and need a referral for EPU. so will try GP again in morning. Seems to have faded to light brown when I wipe now but I've thought it's stopped a few times and then it's come back again. Will test again in morning and try GP again.

lia66, so sorry to hear youve had several mcs. I feel foolish for fretting when I read what other people have gone through - what's possibly happening to me isn't nice but I got the bleeding first, then the +ve pg so to me, if this doesnt work out, I think I will deal with it as I havent even had time to get used to the idea of bring pg. But it must be devastating to find out youre pregnant, have all the excitement of looking forward to a baby and then start to mc- it's happened to friends and I know it's heartbreaking.

I will keep you all posted - thank you. X

Shnook Sun 12-May-13 17:45:10

Saw GP. Says its too early for a scan so I have to go back in 2 wks. Wants to rule out ectopic (although so far I've had no pain which i suppose is a good sign?)

Bleeding has settled into weird pattern - v faint light brown when I wipe throughout day but one episode of red on pad each evening (for the past 3 nights). Before that, it was just red or brown when I wiped. Still getting +ve tests (am doing one every morn!) Could this be some kind of weird period breakthrough bleeding?

lia66 Sun 12-May-13 20:34:00

You first posted about this on 10th April, that's a month ago. A transvaginal scan would show up a heartbeat by now or a yoke sac I'm sure.

I'd be more persistence tbh, is there any way you could afford a private viability scan? Where in the country are you?

Shnook Sun 12-May-13 21:03:22

Hi lia66, Dr is going by that date - he thinks I'm 4 weeks but says thats too soon. I'm in London. Not sure how much scans are??

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