The ongoing search for BFPs now leads the BESH to the barren polar wastes, in the footsteps of Scott, Shackleton and Franklin.

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ArielThePiraticalMermaid Tue 19-Feb-13 22:35:08

Pack those reindeer sleeping bags, huskies and skis - we're off to the Antarctic to look for our BFPs. Unlike Scott, we'll eat the poniez if necessary (topical joke). Let's huddle together through the Antarctic night and we'll try not to kidnap one of the emperor penguin toddlers for our very own. Bring on blizzards, pack ice, shipwreck, attacking leopard seals, voyages across the Southern Ocean in rowing boats and hazardous traverses of South Georgia in search of rescue - just like the Shackleton expedition, NO BESH WILL BE LEFT BEHIND.

(do I win the prize for most random fred ever?)

EuroShagmore Wed 20-Feb-13 14:11:47

mavis you will learn - we are not like other ttcers. wink As I have mentioned before I was too tipsy on trigger shot night to read the instructions... I genuinely believe that a bit of alcohol won't stop you winning a baby. Look at how many instadiffers are trollied when they get up the pole.

rie I agree with drizz's wise words. <nods solemnly>

That was very worthy drizz. I plan to gym tonight. I am a little concerned though that I will fall asleep in there if I sit down on a nice padded piece of equipment. I am getting so little sleep. Still, I am certainly not complaining and think that not sleeping is probably better than throwing up like something out of The Exorcist. At least I am getting a lot of reading done.

Northey Wed 20-Feb-13 14:13:39

You won't do it wrong, aries. You are intelligent and courageous and will not do it wrong. I really share your pain on the travel thing. Going back and forth from Wales to Oxford by public transport has been hellish, and probably adds up to half the cost of a private cycle, FFS. But you will make it work, even if it means you dropping MrA at work then having the car, or him dropping you off at 7am and you drinking decaf coffee and reading historical fiction for 9 hours until he can pick you up again (with a brief and thrilling interlude of pant removal in the middle). And I honestly don't think it will hurt that much. If you can cope with a smear, you can cope with the fanjo-fiddling that goes with this. And the stabbing, well, that really reminded me of pulling off a plaster - same level of ouchiness, and same sort of moment of resolve-stiffening beforehand. Tell them no students. They won't argue. The students will probably adore you for the gift of 5 mins to have a wee and a flapjack. The success and failure fears, well, yes. I am still struggling with those myself. Along with terror and fury at the idea that my sister might conceive (I was glad that she had an irregular smear and got told to abstain till after colposcopy - how mentally evil is that?).

How is your father doing at the moment? Is he still in hospital or had he come home?

Northey Wed 20-Feb-13 14:16:44

Sorry - bit of a stream of consciousness there.

Hi mavis. Nice boozing. Well done.

frankellyfrank, it sounds like home is the best place for you at the moment. All just horrid sad Will the clinic talk things through with you?

evilgiraffe Wed 20-Feb-13 14:18:18

nav, there's a reason the BESHtionnaire involves gin! I refuse to give it up - I've got enough TTC shit to deal with, I'm not doing it without my gin. Though I have decided to cut back and only have a drink on a Friday night, just so that it looks better when we have to fill out the IVF paperwork.

Has everyone seen the new NICE guidelines for IVF thread? It's quite upsetting.

Frank, still thinking of you <wraps you up in furs and big mittens>

navis176 Wed 20-Feb-13 14:21:19

ah good, I am in sensible company

drizz - the row is sorted, I think, I still feel a bit uneasy...we've just been spending far too much time together and I'm sure if we give each other a bit of space it'll be ok

rie - I'm glad lots of people here have lots of fab, first-hand advice for you, all I can do is chuck you penguins and huskies...

ArielThePiraticalMermaid Wed 20-Feb-13 14:21:52

I think that thread might go tits up. It was going so well, too. Don't be upset, lovely draf.

Thanks for the words of encouragement, Norf. Father is home now, but is completely changed. We are having to accept that this is him now: this is his life. The old dad we knew is gone.

lovesLemonDrizzleCake Wed 20-Feb-13 14:26:40

sad aries that is just horrible. Life can be a bit much sometimes. I would send some XXXXs but that might get me chucked out.

I looked at the IVF fred earlier and everyone was playing nicely. No longer, in that case I won't look. Sorry it upset you draf.

Alcohol and running got me diffed (with a bit of SO and IUI) last summer, so that is what I am aiming for this month too. The running group is so nice, that it doesn't feel all that virtuous any longer. And euro you are totally entitled a snooze on lovely padded equipment smile

Northey Wed 20-Feb-13 14:29:59

It is upsetting, draf - the mixture some people's stories and other people's opposition is quite potent. I don't mind reasoned opposition, it's the belming fuckwits that really wind me up. I just have to hope that they are too stupid ever to get around to voting.

It happened to my grandfather, rie, and my father said it was like a bereavement, but with the added burden of it being kept fresh every time he saw him or spoke to his mother sad

lovesLemonDrizzleCake Wed 20-Feb-13 14:39:00

Having read the last page of that fred, I get why you're upset draf. The entitlement and rights chat, whereas it is about desperation and frustration. Oh well. I am not wading in...

ArielThePiraticalMermaid Wed 20-Feb-13 14:41:17

The thing I find most disturbing on that thread, is not the wankers - sadly they are to be expected - but the number of failures people have had.

Northey Wed 20-Feb-13 14:43:04

I know! Really pickles your positivity, doesn't it? sad

lovesLemonDrizzleCake Wed 20-Feb-13 14:43:04

LALALALALA <puts fingers in ears, snuggles with the chicklets, discovers there is ice under them> I can't hear you aries.

ArielThePiraticalMermaid Wed 20-Feb-13 14:46:19

I think it definitely is droid now. But why are the boobs still agony? I don't get it.

Trying to summon the strength to ring the FC. I have to speak to the secretary to get the nurse to ring me back.

evilgiraffe Wed 20-Feb-13 14:47:37

At least the BESH are coming across as calm and reasoned, I think (unless I've skewed it with my emotional wailing) - we look a damn sight more sensible than the few frothers on there!

EuroShagmore Wed 20-Feb-13 14:47:46

I've never seen a childless person come onto a thread like that and bang on about rights and entitlements. It's always the instadiffers who simply cannot imagine what it must be like.

rie I agree you won't do it wrong. And I didn't find it painful - the injections hurt no more than a scratch, the blood tests are blood tests, I was out for the count for egg collection and IUI/embryo trasfer are both like an extended smear. It physically isn't that bad. The only bit I struggled with physically was the side effects of the downregging drugs and I found an alternative path that suited me. Being on them was horrible but it was about 2 weeks and then I stopped them and moved on. The menkul side of things is another matter of course, but you have Team BESH and proper counsellors to help with that.

ArielThePiraticalMermaid Wed 20-Feb-13 14:48:46

The other thing I am stressed and glum about is the state of the house. I clean it all the time, and it is still filthy. The dust RAINS down and it's black. I have never lived in a house this dirty. We haven't even had a fire for yonks.

Perhaps I should get the chimney swept....maybe it's blowing down there. Though why that would appear in the bedrooms I don't know.

Why is my life so crap? <wails suddenly>

<sets out alone to the Pole>
<just because>

EuroShagmore Wed 20-Feb-13 14:52:40

Rie I have some cycles that are out of synch. Usually my boob stop hurtng and my temp drops a day or so before Droid. Sometimes it would start out of the blue with my temps still high and boobs hurting. Given that I thought Droid was brought on by progesterone levels dropping and hurty boobs and high temps are signs of progeterone being up, I don't understand it, but it happened to me.

ArielThePiraticalMermaid Wed 20-Feb-13 14:56:05

Thanks Euro.

Upon reflection, I think I should step away from MN and man up.

Thanks BESH and sorry for the glums.

captainmoll Wed 20-Feb-13 17:00:08

argh just wrote a lengthy, erudite and incisive post in response to the IVF thread and then the bloody app crashed and lost it.

FrankellyMyDearIDontGiveADamn Wed 20-Feb-13 17:53:43

Two ladies I work with just popped round for a cuppa and a hug. Bless them. It caused more sobbing, but I feel grateful I have people watching out for me.

In other news, I think I'm spotting.

Northey Wed 20-Feb-13 19:09:56

Oh frank sad I'm sorry.

That thread...

FrankellyMyDearIDontGiveADamn Wed 20-Feb-13 19:11:42

I know. I'll probably hide it shortly, today is not a good day to be arguing on this subject.

Northey Wed 20-Feb-13 19:32:49

I can't seem to leave it alone.

Northey Wed 20-Feb-13 19:34:47

There is definitely a bit of a BESH Expeditionary Force thing going on there.

evilgiraffe Wed 20-Feb-13 19:36:03

Me neither, norf, I've been posting on it all day. I did report and get a post deleted when a poster was being shouty though, I've never done that before shock <power crazed>

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