The Clomid Crew - Part 2

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goldengirl71 Tue 20-Nov-12 14:33:17

"Come on, ovaries! Let's get this party started, yeah?!"

goldengirl71 Sun 25-Nov-12 12:33:15

*bureaucratic!

goldengirl71 Sun 25-Nov-12 12:46:20

Christelle, I am soon to be taking my own advice and starting a thread about success rates of IUI (artificial insemination). DP has said this morning that we are "going for it - just one round" before my Clomid prescriptions run out in four months' time. The success rates are not sparkling - barely a higher rate than natural conceptions - but my hope is that DP's sperm will be washed and filtered and the best ones chosen for insemination (he has a not-very-brilliant 3% morphology score). Of course, if the issue is one of my eggs being of shit quality due to my age, this procedure will never work sad

Annalou84 Sun 25-Nov-12 14:28:03

npg1 I ovulated on cd13 so my advice is to bed rock we started from cd6 lol but that's mostly my hubby and his high sex drive lol we have stuck to every other day apart from cd12 we have been at it every day since with twice today blush

Annalou84 Sun 25-Nov-12 16:42:35

Just out of curiosity I did another ovulation test and it came back with a 2nd faint line so does that mean my Surge has finished if so we only had sex night befor last and last night and this morn is that enought as the doctor said when I get a positive to have sex twice a day. God so much pressure to get it right sad

goldengirl71 Sun 25-Nov-12 18:01:45

Annalou, you did everything a human being could possibly do. I promise. Now go and bathe your lady-bits - they must be black 'n bloody blue wink

P.s..an LH surge only lasts a matter of hours which is why you are advised not to test again after you have detected a positive result.

goldengirl71 Sun 25-Nov-12 18:03:28

Annalou, I got my positive OPK on Tuesday night at 9pm, had sex that night and then again the next night (the day I ovulated). You put me to shame with your bonkathon blush

Stephy30 Mon 26-Nov-12 05:02:36

Hi ladies well im on month 2 of clomid so gonna join the crew :-) heres hoping for us all fx xx

npg1 Mon 26-Nov-12 08:17:02

Just had day11 scan and theres no follicles. Guessing this isnt good.

Christelle2207 Mon 26-Nov-12 08:25:05

npg1 no i guess not but what did they tell you? to carry on anyway?

welcome stephy!

npg1 Mon 26-Nov-12 08:50:58

She said to go back fri to see if any have developed as my cycle can be 35 days plus. Surely there would be something now being on the clomid if it had worked x

goldengirl71 Mon 26-Nov-12 09:10:33

Npg1, I wouldn't panic yet. Did you ask the nurse what they would do next if Clomid doesn't work? Remind me which cycle and dose you are on again.

Hello, Stephy! Welcome to the thread. Can you tell us a bit about yourself (age, ttc history etc)? thanks

I'm off on my bike before the rain arrives. Over the weekend alone I have been spinning, 'psycho circuit training' and Body Pump. I am sore - especially my core - but I'm determined to lose a stone so I can be at the weight I was when I fell preggo in January. I am not overweight (I have a BMI of 24) but could certainly do with shifting a bit of excess.

goldengirl71 Mon 26-Nov-12 09:30:38

Npg1, I'm reading through the Assisted Conception thread to prepare myself for IUI and one lady enquired as to how she could encourage follicle growth. All the answers were the same: water, brazil nuts, eggs and meat: PROTEIN. Some IVF clinics even insist you drink a pint of milk a day. You may want to take a look at your diet.

Stephy30 Mon 26-Nov-12 09:37:11

Hi well ive been ttc for 18 months now. I was diagnoised with pcos around 12 months ago and been put on metformin. I had my tubes checked. My husband had his sperm checked which all came bk normal so now been put on clomid. This is month 2 of clomid for me now xx

Hopefully2012 Mon 26-Nov-12 12:16:03

Hi Ladies
sorry been a while been feeling like crap mentally & physically!
Im on my last cycle of clomid (6months) & im so scared its not going to be bfp this month. I see my consultant next week so scared he wont be able to help me , but i will not leave the office till he gives me a next plan to help me, i dont care if he has to call security i will not move as i dont know when i will see him next. i have got lots of questions i have wrote down to ask him. If all fails, i think i will go private & have blastocyst transfer done (feel bit better i kind of got a plan well better than last week when i had no plan)
Im on cd10 not sure when i will ovulate but will try & have sex every day till cd17?.
Me & dh have been taking conception vitamins to see if that helps us get pg. My ovaries are hurting, back ache, dizzy, headache, crying & moaning. One more moan just found out this crack head whore is pg with twins(boy & girl) naturally & still doing crack, drinking & smoking everyday as she don't want them as she already gave her other child to her mum & planning on giving her the twins too. i hate her she don't deserve to have any fucking kids nasty bitch, its bad enough all my family & friends are pg or got newborns which is sending me over the edge so had to distance myself from them as i can't handle it yes i know im selfish but the feelings are to deep for me to cope with everyone chatting about babies, seeing babies or pg bumps. so stressful ttc for us all! Good luck ladies hope you all get bfp this month for xmas. xx

Christelle2207 Mon 26-Nov-12 12:52:33

golden are you planning on NHS or private IUI? I think my clinic offers it next after clomid.

goldengirl71 Mon 26-Nov-12 13:11:02

Hopefully, you poor thing, you sound wound-up to the max. There will always be undeserving, skanky whores having babies, it's just the way of the world. The question is, how do we deal with it? How do we deal with the fear that we may never hold a baby in our arms? These fears are completely irrational; we have no way of knowing what the future holds for us. This journey was always going to be tedious, frightening, frustrating and it will impact negatively on all of us as some point. You do not sound as though you are being pro-active in dragging your mind away from your fertility worries - what are your hobbies/escapisms? Do you run/walk/go the cinema/bake/visit non-baby mates? I am very impressed with your determination to get some attention from your consultant. Clomid is only the beginning of the journey...there are lots more options, but, Hopefully, you need to take care of that panic and despair you are harbouring; it's really bad for your health thanks What is blastocyst transfer?

Christelle, I am 41 and DP already has a child from a previous relationship. Would I be eligible for NHS IUI?

goldengirl71 Mon 26-Nov-12 13:28:05

I have a question: I am 5DPO and am literally bubbling with creamy, watery discharge. I thought cervical mucus dried up after ovulation. Could it mean I haven't conceived? sad

npg1 Mon 26-Nov-12 18:02:04

Evening had a rubbish day. So what's the chance that I may see follicles Friday or is it not going to happen? If for instance my cycle is 35-40 days long? The sonographer said today I would have to go back to consultant and get dose upped. How long that will take I have no idea. X

Rosiechoice Mon 26-Nov-12 19:19:47

Evening all,

My response is a little delayed but thank you so much for your kind words yesterday golden. Positive thinking as you said smile

annalou I think you did as much as you could, I'm surprised that your doctor advised sex twice in a day! It's all a gamble, I hope you're successful.

npg1 fx for follies on Friday, maybe they're just taking their time, how did they 'behave' last month?

stephy welcome, what dose are you on? Did you ovulate last month? I'm just starting cycle 2 100mg tomorrow.

hopefully I feel EXACTLY the same as you this ttc journey is making me a very bitter, miserable person! I know that nothing anyone says will make it better, there's only 1 thing that can. My DH's response to my moaning is 'be thankful for all that you've got' I know he's right, I am VERY lucky in many ways, last nights new quote was 'you're only missing 1 thing', again he's right, it just feels like its the ONLY thing that matters at the moment. Golden's right, hobbies, interests and ways to escape from ttc/baby thoughts are a definite must! Over the last year whilst ttc and waiting for my referral I've thrown myself into my new business and it does work (to a certain extent) obviously it doesn't make things easy but it gives me a different focus and a perfect decoy when people are asking me the dreaded 'when are you going to have babies' people must think I'm a cold blooded woman who only cares about making money hmm but its great for the days that i really don't want to talk about when I want to become a mum a year ago would have been lovely thanks! The only thing I can say about the woman who's having twins and still taking drugs is that life is not fair, its so difficult seeing friends who really want kids falling pregnant but that is just cruel. I think we all just need to think 'one day we'll be mum's' I hope you're ok x

golden I do hope you have conceived! I'm pretty sure I didn't have much cm by dpo5 fx!!

my af arrived with force today sad I'm pretty sure all the one's I've missed over the past year decided to turn up all together!! TMI I know! I'm looking at it in a positive way, hopefully a good 'clear out' will help things, bring on 100mg clomid - god help everyone who comes into contact with me in the next week

Stephy30 Mon 26-Nov-12 19:31:56

Hi rosie im on 50mg at the mo. Im not sure if I ovulated last month as still not got day 21 blood results from gyno yet. I did ring up but they would not tell me over the phone and they said the doc will write to me but im still waititng. I did get loads of clear jelly like stuff on day 13 which I dont normally get so think I did ov tbh x

npg1 Mon 26-Nov-12 19:44:41

Hi. This is my first cycle of 50g so have no idea what happened last month. Thing I dont get is I had a M/C in aug???!

Hopefully2012 Mon 26-Nov-12 19:49:24

Golden - Thank you so much for the lovely message & advice. I have turned in to a emotional wreck don't know who i am anymore lol!! You have helped a lot you are the one who has given me the determination not to leave the office till he has got a plan for me & your right he gets paid loads of money to help women so he is going to help me wither he likes it not its his paid job to help, I know he is going to try palm me off so if i have all my questions & info on other treatments he is going to have to do something well like i said i will NOT move you might see me on the news the mad women who tie her self to doc lol! i feel a bit better emotionally now & less stressed i have got it out thanks for the support. No lie all my family & friends are pg or got newborns (under 3mths) coz everyone is on there 2, 3 or 4th baby. I do talk to my best mates just don't see them that much (we are all busy) but they know & understand i'm trying to ttc & love me anyway even tho im a moody bitch now, they are just waiting for me to turn normal again lol. I go gym, water workout, sauna, cook, walk, cinema, work pt, go out party/bar only sometimes as its so tempting to drink & eat healthy most of the time apart from a bag of crisps & deserts a day lol. I am busy most of the time but having bad few days.my dh loves me but don't like me as he thinks i turned in to a monster since clomid he wanted me to stop taking them months ago but he lost that one lol. he thinks if we get pg great if not its ok its not the end of the world he so laid bk about it all. sorry going on & on yawn.

Blastocyst transfer
A blastocyst is an embryo that has developed for five to six days after fertilisation.
With blastocyst transfer, embryos are cultured in the laboratory incubator to the blastocyst stage before they are transferred to the womb.
At this time, one or two of the best quality blastocysts are selected and then implanted into the woman’s womb. A blastocyst must successfully attach itself to the wall of the womb for a woman to become pregnant.

Its cheaper than ivf etc... and i have a hospital near by that does this i just have to get refer from my consultant & pay. but never no dr could have a plan for me lol

cervical mucus (watery) after ovulation is normal especially when on clomid Or you could of conceived hun fingers crossed xx

Rosie - Thank you for your lovely message & advice hun. most times i am positive but been having a few bad days but it feels good talking to other women on here about it. Good luck with your next cycle of clomid. I hope af pains go away soon hun xx

I feel a lot better getting it all off my chest Thank u.

Thank you for your support hugs & flowers xx

Christelle2207 Mon 26-Nov-12 22:12:41

hello. sorry youre having such a tough time hopefully. have to admit i dont get the difference between blastocyst transfer and ivf- both conceived in a lab right?

golden clomid is full of surprises but i have definitely heard that lots of cm post ovulation can be good news. re iui it will depend on your pct area. yes i think in mine- iui is a lot cheaper than ivf.

well i feel like having a little party here. still no af -had spotting fri and sat but nothing since. if af comes tomorrow my lp will be somewhere between 11 (based on temp rise) and 13 (based on cm and cramps) which is officially the longest ever! at least since tracking my cycles.

mumalah Tue 27-Nov-12 04:08:44

Hello, everyone ! I eventually got a call back from the hospital yesterday. ( After leaving numerous messages on the answerphone). My 21 day blood test came back as 1 ! I seem to be going backwards, how can it be 1 ! Anyway the nurse I spoke to said she would speak to MY consultant (not the witch I saw last week) and ring me back. 3 hours later she rang back and said she would leave out a prescription for me for 150mg! I was so shocked and grateful I didn't ask about if having a 30/31 day cycle would make any difference to how I was being monitored. So I rang her back straight away! She seemed to think it wouldn't make any difference with it only being a couple of days, but was happy to leave out my file for consultant to look at again. I also asked about a progesterone supplement,(I'm no doctor but to me this seems to be my problem?)I also happened to jump on scales while waiting, to find i have put on 11lb since starting clomid ! This has put my bmi just over 30, which may hinder my chances of tcc, so day 1 of shifting that tomorrow ! I cant sleep, I'm convinced they would have change their minds by the time I get there to pick up prescription! It sounds like like many of you were feeling like I was last week, I thought that was the end of clomid for me(still might be, until I get that prescription in my hands !) , its definitely been emotional. Another thing, what are all the pains I have if I'm clearly not ovulating ? Any advice on what I can do to get ovulating again ? Does clomid take a while to get in your system ? I''m sure stressing about all of this don't help? Right, I am rambling now , so Im going to try go back to bed. You watch i will oversleep tomorrow !
Good luck everyone, where ever you are in your cyclesmile

goldengirl71 Tue 27-Nov-12 09:34:50

Rosie, your AF sounds rough, you poor thing thanks Have you started 100mg today? Have they increased your dose because they think you didn't ovulate this time? We know you did though, right? wink

Npg1, a woman with no fertility issues who has a 35 day cycle will ovulate around day 22 (this is allowing for a 13 day luteal phase). You had your last scan at day 11 and they found no follicles. On Friday, at your next scan, you will be CD15, right? I would say that, if you are going to ovulate, you should definitely be seeing something on Friday. However, this is your first round of Clomid and it could well be that you need 100mg or even, like, Mumalah, 150mg. I will say it again, Npg1, I think you are panicking far too early. You have another 5 months of Clomid and that is a long time to be getting as anxious and defeatist as you are at the moment. Remember that Clomid is not a magic pill and it will not work for every woman on this thread. It's not the end of your journey if it doesn't work, but I think it will for you thanks Did you read my post about protein? What's your weight like?

Hopefully, it sounds like you do plenty of things to help take your mind off babies. The problem you have is that you are literally surrounded by the little fuckers everywhere you turn. Could you move to, say, China, where they're only allowed one kid? wink Seriously, though, there's no avoiding your family members so you're going to have to dig really deep and keep your panic about never having a baby at bay. Don't listen to that inner voice that tells you you are some kind of freak who will never have a baby.

Can I tell you about the Assisted Conception thread on mumsnet? I've been lurking over there for when the time comes for me to try IUI. Those women are on their second and third rounds of IVF. Their first and second attempts have failed, or they have miscarried. Two of the women have had to travel abroad to get donor eggs because theirs are old and shit. One woman has just begged the bank to borrow on her mortgage so she can try IVF for the third time. My point is this: we sometimes feel, on this thread, as though we are the only women in the world whose bodies are letting them down and that we will never have babies. It's not true, and we are at the very beginning of what could be a very long journey. So...let's 'man-up', girls, and sort our bloody heads out. You are all young with lovely fresh eggs buried inside there somewhere, and some day in the future, they will find them thanks

Christelle, I'm doing a little celebratory jig here for your beautifully-behaved luteal phase. What a treat! I'm so pleased you are seeing something so positive from Clomid smile

Mumalah, sorry about your 'day 21' score but very impressed you haven't been written off by the staff there. 150mg!! You'll be rattling! Not sure what the source of your aches and pains have been but what i do know is that there is fuck-all point in trying to read the signs of our bodies. They really are not a good indicator of what is actually going on (or not, as the case may be). What are you doing to get your weight under control? Try to do all you can, diet-wise, to increase your chances of ovulating: protein, protein, protein.

As for me (I can barely be bothered to say after this mammoth post!) I was back in the gym, spinning, last night and am off again at lunchtime. I've got my cd21 blood test tomorrow but I'm already confident I ovulated. I wish ovulation was the be-all-and-end-all for me; I'm beginning to think every single one of my 41 year-old eggs are decrepit sad I desperately wish I could afford IVF with donor eggs sad

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