Just MC and ready to try again? Pregnant after MC and seeking somewhere safe to hide? Jump in the mosh pit for some serious metalling or settle yourself down in our padded cell. All welcome! (Part 19)

[Poppyjen]

Another new thread for some more serious metalling - we really are a chatty lot!

Here's to making it through the WTF cycle(s), metalling* like a teenager from the early '90s in the 2WW, BFP colds and other classic symptom spotting and hiding in the (nice and comfy) padded cell post BFP

If you have miscarried and are ready to TTC again, come and join us!

• For those currently wondering what our mosh pit antics have to do with ttc post MC, a fabulous typo in an earlier thread resulted in "mentalling" becoming known as "Metalling" - a far more fitting expression I am sure you will agree!
  
  Welcome!

[InsomniaQueen]

Loving the shiny new thread poppy....can't believe this is thread number 3 for me!!!

I'm leaving out cake (chocolate, carrot and victoria sponge) with champers in my newly designed mosh pit foyer in hopes of tempting the other ladies across. I also have plenty of my new favourite "non alcoholic sparkling muscat" for those al la bump!!!! Xxxx

[BlueCrane]

Morning Thanks poppy for finding us a new home!

IQ enjoy the 4D today - hope all goes well, how likely is it that your DH will be a blubbering wreck?? Found mine nearly crying he says strange randowm occurence of hayfever looking at our 12w scan pic when I came back from the loo desperately emptying my bladder after the sonographer had been bouncing on my belly/bladder with the scan thing

[babysaurus]

Ooooh, a shiny new thread!

[MsEltoeNWhine]

Shiny shiny pretty new thread for our metallic antics! Thanks Poppyjen.

Cake's bloody delicious IQ, enjoy the scan, eh?

My DH has always been pretty detached from babies in utero, I think because we lost our very first one. He began to be excited about this most recent one, but didn't cry at any of our scan pics - did when we found out he had died, but not when he was born. Still no word on post mortem results, nine weeks later - they said up to twelve weeks, doesn't that make it Christmas

I am still metalling this cycle in the continued absence of AF. Not that that means much of course, I know my cycles aren't exactly guaranteed to be regular after a loss. And technically she could have been due as early as the 7th or as late as today........

[MandaHugNKiss]

Aha! Carrot cake! Well, I was thinking of leaving y'all behind, but if there's carrot cake, I suppose I shall stay after all

Nice new thread, poppy thanks! I think it was a good move include those of us who have already conceived again and stay around to give advice to those still trying... uh, not because we are too scared to move anywhere else. Oh no.

Cold symptoms easing off for me... to be relaced by a hacking cough which is finally producing something after a day and a half. Naturally, it would be a friday, wouldn't it? When I have to make the decision of trying to get an 'emergency' last minute appointment with the Dr in case it gets worse over the weekend or leaving it in the hope it doesn't get worse... in which case it obviously will.

Grrr.

[MsEltoeNWhine]

Oh no Manda. It's like a snot fountain in this house too. DD is always bringing little bugs back from school, thankfully we're all pretty fit and healthy and as yet they've not been enough to do anything other then be annoying drains of energy we could do without. This most current one seems to come with a nasty cough - she's been coughing all night which means noone gets much kip at all and I get unreasonably angry with her for failing to control her cough (What I mean is she's only five and tries to 'cough it out' - coughing and coughing in the hope that'll get rid and refuses to take a warm drink or a linctus or even just sit up/change position/try to stifle it - she just goes on and on and on till she gets distressed and starts wailing that she can't get the cough out). I had to wake her up for school this morning, that's never happened before.

I hope your cough feels better soon or you get a docs appt. I have just talked far too much about coughing, sorry.

[PieMistress]

Thanks poppy for starting a new thread! Just marking my place!

We've had no power (elec/heating/hot water) since 8pm last night which meant by this morning the house was baltic (god knows how DS didn't wake up through the storm/tiles/freezing temperature in his room) and it was um interesting getting us all ready by torchlight this morning! Had to decamp all of our frozen foods to my parents as well hope it's back on my tonight! A trampoline in the village has also caused destruction by smashing a car, broke somebody's upstairs window and when a couple of the blokes went out to try and dismantle it before it could cause any more chaos it hit one of them on the head and he had to go to hospital!

Hope your cough gets better soon manda, not good right before a weekend especially when it seems there is nothing pregnant ladies can take for it! I know that hand, foot and mouth is doing the rounds at the nurseries here. Three of DS's friends have it so i'm really hoping he's next (thankfully NHS site say it's rare for adults to catch it so hopefully not dangerous for pregnancies!)

misseltoe is there anybody you can call to chase up the results? It took me nearly 8weeks to get AF back and my loss was at 7 weeks. I think it can vary quite wildly, have you spoken to your GP about it?

I'm now coming up for 11w and constantly analysing every twinge and back pain thinking it might be a miscarriage on its way. Will this fear ever go away?!

IQ enjoy the 4D scan today! We had one with DS and it was lovely. We were in there for ages and got lovely pics and a DVD to take away :)

poppy how are you feeling now on the drugs? Any sign of OV?

Pie x

[BlueCrane]

A little question for peeps if I may...now 15+3 but my (mini)bump seems to ache a lot most of the time...is this normal?? I did have bad back ache last weekend and on an off during the week, but think that may have been constipation related though things do seem to be 'moving' down there again so don't think it's that. Just metalling that something is worng as not felt any movement yet either...

manda sorry about the cough...probably worth seeing docs today as a pre-emptive strike today...otherwise it will typically get worse over the weekend.

[welliesandpyjamas]

oooooh new thread! Nothing to add here but couldn't not put myself down in this lovely shiny new place :)

Wow, at the trampoline pie!

Sorry about AF, martha. You can join me in the next cycle too. I found a good reason for not being pregnant last night...yes, finally! Wine! We held the pta xmas disco last night and the build up and the event was very busy after our old chair stropped out so the leftover wine at the end of the night went out an absolute treat, I can tell you!! That and the mountain of sickly sweet carrot cake. I was in heaven!

[welliesandpyjamas]

Went down, not out!!!

[farfallarocks]

Hi bauble am so sorry about what happened to you, I read the BESH thread and I know you had qutie a journey to get there which makes it even more heartbreaking. Don;t underestimate how hard this is and be gentle to yourself.
You are in the right place though this is an incredibly supportive thread.
Don;t be alarmed if you feel and think things you never thought possible before, I developed real rage about how easy everyone I know finds it to get and stay pregnant and I really strarted to dislike the person I was becoming. It is a completely normal reaction.

pie I can't believe you are 11 weeks already that is such fantastic news and I am keeping everything crossed for you. Have you carried on taking the B VITS?
Sadly I think MCs do mean that you have lost your innocence and I think you will be worried the whole way through but from what I have read the 12 and 20 week scans are when people start to relax a bit more. I don't think any of us will really relax until we have a baby in our arms though will we? And then we can start to panic about them!

blue I have no idea about that but can you call your midwife for some reassurance?

What is everyone up to this weekend? We are off to a wedding and its one of the last I think as most our friends have tied the knot now!

WELLIES and martha we can all be cycle buddies! I have been spotting for 4 days and waiting for AF to start, probably tomorrow. We will get our lovely xmas BFPs!

poppy how are you feeling on the metformin?

[Poppyjen]

Hi ladies, welcome welcome

Blue not sure if this will help but I remember being achy around my bump/lower back pretty much all the way through with DS. If you are worried though give your midwife a call. Its what they are there for, don't hold back because you think you'll be bothering them unnecessarily just have a chat to them then hopefully you'll be able to relax.

Just a thought but have you had a Health and Safety assessment at work now that you are pg? You should have had a couple by now I think - reason I ask is that I remember that I had my chair height/monitor height adjusted to make sure I wasn't working with bad posture and it did actually make a difference with the general aches and pains.

Bauble so sorry to hear your story, but you are very welcome here. Please do be kind to yourself and allow yourself to feel whatever you feel. We'll be here for you Re vitamins, I think what is in the pregnancy vits is pretty much what is in the pre-conception ones (could be wrong though, check the labels) I know that you can take Pregnacare before, during and after pg.

Pie 11 weeks, wow! hooray! I think it is entirely natural to continue with the metalling, but don't worry feel free to vent your worries here and hopefully you'll relax a bit in RL

Far and Pie I am actually feeling much better on the Metformin - nausea has gone and apart from a few crampy pains last night (sort of like trapped wind, and probably actually...urm...was) and a washed out feeling all is well thank goodness.

As far as ovulation is concerned, I have had lots of EWCM for the past couple of days so I am hoping it will be soon. I am CD21 today, consultant reckoned about CD20 now I am on the meds. I am still temping so I am awaiting the rise.

Actually something rather interesting has happened with regard to my temps (apologies to those who don't chart - this won't mean much) - pre ovulation my temp was between 35.8 and 36 with post O being 36.1-36.6. After taking the Metformin my pre-O temps are all above 36, average around 36.2 ish. Not sure why this would happen, anyone have any ideas? It started happening the day after my first day on it so pretty convinced its due to that...

Ooooh, IQ enjoy the scan! Let us know how you get on

[BlueCrane]

bauble so sorry you need to come and join us but rest assured these ladies are truly fab and lots of venting of sadness and frustration is totally acceptable on here!!

poppy no H&S assessment at all yet...think I should chase that up! Pain in bump area got a lot worse earlier but think today it may be lovely trapped wind Haven't got a number for my MW as not got one assigned as such (one attached to my GP practice on mat leave so I have an assortment of whoever is available), rang GPs and they're shut for a deep clean this afternoon and were useless, said to ring hospital...rang antenatal unit who put me through to the triage MW who said she couldn't really help as she doesn't see anyone until they're at least 18w but that I should drink water and take paracetamol and go to A&E if not better in 3 hours wasn't v impressed TBH. Have come home so I can rest and put some more comfy clothes on and quietly surf the internet/use MN without being disturbed by work and rest and see what happens, it is a bit better but at least if it is wind then it can release at any time and as loudly as it wants now that I'm at home

[leedy]

Ooh, shiny new thread. And sorry that you need to be here, bauble, but it's a good place to be if you need to be, if you know what I mean.

Quick charting question: haven't done this in ages, do you count the first day of spotting or the first day of actual RIVERS OF GORE as "day 1"?

[Poppyjen]

Leedy Fertility Friend counts first day of said ROG (I am going out on a limb here to make this an alternative to AF ) as day 1 I think, rather than first day of spotting, so that's when I would count it.

Blue you poor thing that's no fun at all I am pleased you are at home and able to relax a bit. Sounds like your midwife situation is a bit chaotic - appalling response from the hospital midwife if you ask me, would have hoped she might be a bit more useful! Warm bath? (could help dislodge any trapped wind too....)

[Poppyjen]

baublelugs I'm game for a roll call, it is a new thread after all so I will add to yours:

baublelugs82, 29, married. TTC for 10 months and BFP on 28th Oct, MC'd on 2nd December. DH is 29 also but 30 in 3 weeks. Not other DC, only pets.

Poppyjen , 30, TTC for 10 months, MC in May 2011, Chemical pg in August and November 2011. Currently on Metformin for PCOS and due to start Clomid next cycle. One DS (20 months)

[MsEltoeNWhine]

Welcome bauble, I'm sorry. I'd take the vitamins, yes.

Thanks Pie - I have had AF since my MC, we resumed TTC straight away after the MC and I got my first AF 29 days after the event. I'm now 30 days on from there...

Leedy I go with rivers of gore. Though I don't actually get those myself, I tend towards a trickle or a smear - when AF is undeniable I think, but I'm not a charter, really - just count days on my fingers a lot.

Sorry you're feeling off Blue. Aches are awful.


Here's the roll call:

baublelugs82, 29, married. TTC for 10 months and BFP on 28th Oct, MC'd on 2nd December. DH is 29 also but 30 in 3 weeks. Not other DC, only pets.

Poppyjen , 30, TTC for 10 months, MC in May 2011, Chemical pg in August and November 2011. Currently on Metformin for PCOS and due to start Clomid next cycle. One DS (20 months)

MsEltoeNWhine, 27. #1 - TTC for 17 months, MMC at 14 weeks. #2 didn't TTC - DD age 5. #3 - TTC 2 months, induced MC at 17 weeks, awaiting post mortem results. TTC #4 for 2 cycles.

[InsomniaQueen]

Welcome to baubles so sorry to hear why your hear but agree with the other ladies that this place couldn't be more supportive to those TTC and those hanging onto their sanity by a thread (currently pregnant after MC)!!

I will catch up properly but feeling slightly off colour - I think I ate something which hasn't agreed with me but then again it could be start of my dreaded acid reflux - will catch up properly later tonight or tomorrow morning.

Well we had our 4D scan today and it was AMAZING, I still had the "is she ok feeling" whilst waiting for the probe to roll over but she looked fabulous. The Dr (who is just brilliant in my opinion) gave us a full anatomical check......it was much more thorough than the 20 week scan we'd had on the NHS. When I told DH that he was a bit but as I explained it seems that with maternity care you often get what you pay for. So anyway we got some amazing photographs of the little one and video clips, she kept putting her hands over her face but the Dr was very patient and made sure we had some lovely ones to take home with us. It was soooo good to be able to "meet" her and to be honest the best part was the Dr checking everything and saying that the placenta and cord was perfect and all producing the necessary to keep baby alive. Definitely the best £200 of DH's money that I have ever spent!!!!!

[InsomniaQueen]

Sorry I meant why your HERE......blooming predictive text!!

[leedy]

Oh, that scan sounds great!

Here is more roll call:

baublelugs82, 29, married. TTC for 10 months and BFP on 28th Oct, MC'd on 2nd December. DH is 29 also but 30 in 3 weeks. Not other DC, only pets.

Poppyjen , 30, TTC for 10 months, MC in May 2011, Chemical pg in August and November 2011. Currently on Metformin for PCOS and due to start Clomid next cycle. One DS (20 months)

MsEltoeNWhine, 27. #1 - TTC for 17 months, MMC at 14 weeks. #2 didn't TTC - DD age 5. #3 - TTC 2 months, induced MC at 17 weeks, awaiting post mortem results. TTC #4 for 2 cycles.

leedy, 39. #1 - TTC for 10 months - DS aged nearly 2. #2 - got pregnant straight away, MMC at 12 weeks. Just started TTC again.

[welliesandpyjamas]

That scan sounds FAB! Glad it went well x

Rollcalling...

baublelugs82, 29, married. TTC for 10 months and BFP on 28th Oct, MC'd on 2nd December. DH is 29 also but 30 in 3 weeks. Not other DC, only pets.

Poppyjen , 30, TTC for 10 months, MC in May 2011, Chemical pg in August and November 2011. Currently on Metformin for PCOS and due to start Clomid next cycle. One DS (20 months)

MsEltoeNWhine, 27. #1 - TTC for 17 months, MMC at 14 weeks. #2 didn't TTC - DD age 5. #3 - TTC 2 months, induced MC at 17 weeks, awaiting post mortem results. TTC #4 for 2 cycles.

leedy, 39. #1 - TTC for 10 months - DS aged nearly 2. #2 - got pregnant straight away, MMC at 12 weeks. Just started TTC again.

Welliesandpyjamas, 36 (really?! Already?!). Have two gorgeous boys. TTC #3. Recently missed miscarried and on cycle number 2.

[BlueCrane]

Woken up to the sad news that a close family friend died of cancer last night, he has been getting progressively worse over the last few weeks so it is not a surprise, probably a bit of a relief for the family as he was still just able to be at home and would've needed to go to a hospice v soon, but still so so sad not quite sure what to do with myself now as don't really feel like sleeping again but too tired to get up yet iyswim? DH out all day too so will just need to keep myself busy from when I do get up!

On a different note IQ so so glad all good with the scan and you're able to start 'getting to know' little mini feisty IQ who's hiding away in there!

In terms of rollcall I'm not even going to try right now as on my phone and it'll all go horribly wrong I'm sure!

[JaffaSnaffle]

Baublelugs sorry you have had to join us, but this is a lovely thread, with lovely ladies.

Blue, sorry to hear about your bereavement. What a sad thing to happen just before Christmas. Also, hope your pains have got better. I wondered whether it was your uterus rising up out the pelvic cavity and your ligaments stretching? I think that often happens in 4th month, (instead of it crushing into your bladder, it expands and squashes your stomach instead). But if it is still bothering you, I think it is worth getting it checked. Sorry MW are being unhelpful.

Leedy, thanks for coining the phrase, rivers of gore, I am expecting mine any day now, and this has made me laugh! Also, on post miscarriage PMT question, I was a beast. With horns. Also, quite peculiar for a the weeks beforehand. Very hormonal and emotional.

MsEltoeNWhine hope you get good news when you finally POAS! I could not resist!

IQ what a fabulous experience! So glad you got to share that with your DH.

Martha sorry about AF. I will be joining you soon in September baby attempt! I have autumn birthday, and it is lovely. I am also going to make most of Christmas feasting, making sure to get in all of the Banned When Pregnant goodies, just in case.

Farfallarocks enjoy the wedding.

Poppy, thanks for lovely new thread.

Manda get well soon. Hope you don't need doctors appointment.

Pie, Baby, and any others I have missed off, wishing you lovely Christmassy weekend.

I am going to spend the weekend tidying and Christmasifying my house!

Here's the rollcall:

baublelugs82, 29, married. TTC for 10 months and BFP on 28th Oct, MC'd on 2nd December. DH is 29 also but 30 in 3 weeks. Not other DC, only pets.

Poppyjen , 30, TTC for 10 months, MC in May 2011, Chemical pg in August and November 2011. Currently on Metformin for PCOS and due to start Clomid next cycle. One DS (20 months)

MsEltoeNWhine, 27. #1 - TTC for 17 months, MMC at 14 weeks. #2 didn't TTC - DD age 5. #3 - TTC 2 months, induced MC at 17 weeks, awaiting post mortem results. TTC #4 for 2 cycles.

leedy, 39. #1 - TTC for 10 months - DS aged nearly 2. #2 - got pregnant straight away, MMC at 12 weeks. Just started TTC again.

Welliesandpyjamas, 36 (really?! Already?!). Have two gorgeous boys. TTC #3. Recently missed miscarried and on cycle number 2.

JaffaSnaffle, 31, DD nearly 2, #2, got pregnant straight away, MMC at 17 weeks in August. Had break from TTC, just started again.