Thank you

Thanks for that Geraldine, I hadn't seen it...
In all honestly, I have no issue with MN making money however they can, it's more the publisher. And as I work for many on a freelance basis I'm aware they will try for blood out of the proverbial stone whilst happily lining their own pockets.
Anyway, Thanks again for extending the entry requirements
<climbs down from indignant soapbox>

Thanks from me aswell, now I have no excuses!!!

Thank you mumsnet for adding other ways of entering the competition.

Would it be possible to do a cross promotion with the NCT whereby you advertise the NCT on Mumsnet and the NCT run an ad for Mumsnet and the new book in their magazine? Just a thought.

Lovetingles, just to add, Justine explained the reasons for doing the book on another thread. I'll copy it here. Hope it helps:

1. To take all the brilliant and funny advice that gets posted on here every day and to sort it and put it in a compact and portable form. We think there's really something in the pooling of knowledge and experience so that you get a collective wisdom and importantly the idea that there's no one right way of doing things. If the MN books are going to have one overriding principle then it's just that: "There's more than one way to skin a cat". In short we thought we could create some fabulous and really helpful books. Books that are modern, democratic, funny and that you can be proud of owning because of all those reasons. A parenting manual you can leave on your coffee table and not be embarrassed about.

2. To spread the word about MN because we think it's useful - and folks should know about it.

3. To make some dosh. We need cash to pay for the site as we don't charge for access (and don't want to). We have lots of costs now - fancy servers, people, office, shed, Morning Papers exorbitant round up fee, not to mention sausage rolls. Yes we have advertising but we are quite restricted about what advertising we'll take and by whom - we probably turn down as much as we take. We reject a lot of companies and formats - SMA, Milupa, Nestle, Macdonalds have all waved big cheques in front of us in the last year or so - cheques that most other parenting sites would snaffle up. We did not and we're quite happy not to because merciless pursuit of profits is not what we're about (we didn't earn a salary for the first 5 or so years of MN for goodness sake) but it means that if you want a site that runs well we have to be smart about how we fund it.

Bear in mind also that not surprisingly it's tough out there in the advertising market world and probably going to get tougher - we were very much hoping that one big putative ad campaign was going to tide us over for the next little while but it's just been pulled. Blooming Marvellous has gone into administration owing us a fair bit of cash - if we are to avoid the pitfalls of being entirely reliant on advertising which is I gather very cyclical, then we need to have some other strings to our bow.

I've a added couple of additional incentives

Thank you Geraldine, I appreciate you taking my concerns seriously.
One more mini moan, sorry.....
I do find MNHQ's general reluctance to acknowledge the financial gains in publishing these books bizarre. I know you are all wonderful, but you cannot survive on altruism.

Our reasoning behind making ordering posters an entry requirement was simply that we think the book's great and we're hoping to publicise it to mums who might not yet know about MN (and the posters are fab). Hence suggesting GP surgeries, playgroups etc. Yes, it'll be great if we make money from the books, but the main thing is to get all your collective wisdom about parenting toddlers out there. As you know, we have different entry requirements for different comps each week. But we don't want to exclude/upset anyone, so we'll add some more entry requirements for Bedruthan - one will be to add a review of a buggy and the other (for mums who are beyond the buggy bit) will be to add a review to gifts for mum (what with mother's day coming up and all that). Alexia will amend the competitions page shortly.

I'm in agreement, much as I like the idea, MN was a site that provided support for parents not a marketing machine for a publishing house.

Would love to win a stay at bedruthan ( had a night of our honeymoon there!) but will not be entering on the basis that I am providing cheep publicity.

tbh the flogging of products is getting at little carried away, christmas cards now the books what next??? afaik none of the money is going to charity but please correct me if i'm wrong as it MAY change my opionion.

Thank you Womble. I was starting to think it was just me!