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Don't believe in it but... good homeopath anyone???

(42 Posts)
Azrael Sun 13-Jan-13 13:03:06

I've search on mumsnet talk, on mumsnet local, I've read countless threads but can't seem to find recommendation for a good homeopath (in west London if possible, but I'll go anywhere really).

So there it is: anyone who's had luck with homeopathy in treating ECZEMA (of the stubborn kind: discoid eczema), please let me know...

DS is 10 months, been having discoid eczema for 5 months (it was initially misdiagnosed as fungal, sigh), and no matter what steroid we use (HC 1%, HC 2.5%, Eumovate ointment), no matter how slowly we wean him off, it comes back within days of stopping. Note that I've researched a lot and I've joined the Eczema Education Programme organised by St Thomas'.

He has also been diagnosed with a slight milk allergy, but he seems to grow out of it (he eats yoghurts now), and his eczema seems to be unrelated to it (I cut diary out of his diet for 4 weeks and nothing changed). We saw Prof Gideon Lack for his allergies, and Dr. Mayou for his skin.

We're having no luck with conventional medicine so thinking of trying anything else!

dikkertjedap Sun 13-Jan-13 13:29:23

Personally, I would see a private consultant at the Portland Hospital and save your money on a homoeopath.

Azrael Sun 13-Jan-13 17:45:31

Sigh, that's what we did - we've got full BUPA cover.

Prof Gideon Lack saw us at the Portland Hospital.

The problem is that he doesn't have any course of action other than steroid creams (apart from diagnosing allergies and being a really nice, friendly and thorough doctor!).

Same with Dr Mayou (consultant dermatologist at Cromwell Hospital).

dikkertjedap Sun 13-Jan-13 21:33:35

I think I would go with their advice TBH. Homoeopathy doesn't work, it is a placebo.

You could consider phytotherapy. This actually does involve significant amounts of active plant ingredients. However, they may have an adverse effect ... If you want to consider this you could contact Jan de Vries, he is quite well known and used to work with Dr Alfred Vogel. Not sure if he still has an office in London, he also has a clinic in Scotland I believe. Maybe google him if you are interested.

Smudging Sun 13-Jan-13 21:40:02

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eragon Sun 13-Jan-13 23:08:05

He is 10 months, a lot of children outgrow or simply improve with age. Without other atopic concens ( Prof lack was our sons doc for a few years) I suspect the outgrowing may happen for you.

what is your eczema routine?

my son needed his steriod up until 5 twice daily. That improved with time. he has a few food allergies, and all enviromental ones etc. But doesnt have severe milk allergies. Those with severe milk allergy tend to keep the ezcema for some reason so I have heard.

thekitchenfairy Sun 13-Jan-13 23:14:38

Hi Azrael, sorry to read your DS s suffering, I didn't find homeopathy was hugely beneficial in the treatment of eczema for my DS, who was so severe at 10mo we had sedation, hospital stays and steroids :-( but we have had great results with acupuncture, have you considered this?

Smudging Mon 14-Jan-13 08:09:45

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Panzee Mon 14-Jan-13 08:18:41

Steroid creams don't work on me either. The joy of eczema is that different things work on different people. My particular saviour is Lush's Dream Cream.

The weather at the mo is a bugger too, sometimes you just have to ride it out as best you can.

Smudging Mon 14-Jan-13 08:20:47

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Rikalaily Mon 14-Jan-13 08:23:18

Try LUSH dream cream, alot of people have had very good results with this. It doesn't work for everyone but it did for my dd and even if it doesn't shift the ezcema it's very soothing and has tea tree in it so antibacterial too.

VenusRising Mon 14-Jan-13 12:46:09

Well, I'm going out on a limb here and going to suggest that you do indeed try a homeopath.
Whether it cures your DS by placebo or because of itself isn't important.

I've had great success with my allergies and excema with homeopathy.
Once my homeopath and I discovered ( through questioning) my personality and constitution type, and she found a remedy which corresponded to my type, all sorts of ailments cleared up.

If you could travel to Ham or Wimbledon there is a good homeopath there http://www.familyhomeopathy.co.uk/

Good luck with it. I've had allergies and excema for years and years, have gone up and down conventional routes with creams inhalers steroids etc and after a himeopathic remedy I'm now fine.
As I say it doesn't matter if it is placebo or not, as it works anyway.

SAR555 Mon 14-Jan-13 13:36:01

Look at the Society of Homeopaths register. If someone is qualified with them they'll have RSHom at the end of their name. Homeopathy works very well for me and my family.

Azrael Mon 14-Jan-13 20:28:34

Oh what would I do without the MN community??! Thank you everyone for your words of wisdom, I'm going to try the various things highlighted in the thread.

I'm also bracing for impact - we may be with this for a few more years...

Thanks!

Azrael Mon 14-Jan-13 20:39:24

Thekitchenfairy - regarding the acupuncture, where did you go? would you recommend someone?

Azrael Mon 14-Jan-13 20:45:11

Eragon - I apply ointment (to his face and his shoulders) every time I change his nappy. Bath once a day, with Cetraben. Steroid morning and evening. Whether the patches disappear completely or not, they come back.

Prof Lack said that DS had a low milk allergy. He's probably already growing out of it ie he eats yoghurts now.

As you suggest, hopefully he'll grow out of his eczema too!

barleysugar Mon 14-Jan-13 20:52:00

Hi, my baby has had the same sort of excema, it was also misdiagnosed as fungal. He is 14 months now and apart from the occasional dry patch on his cheek and his lower leg his skin is marvellous now. We found double base gel the absolute best treatment, and betnovate for flare ups. Only cream him up after bathing now ( only bath him once a week as this wrecks his skin)

He was far worse at 10 months, it seemed to peak. I remember feeling desperate to try anything, so can understand your seeking homeopathy, but please take heart. I wish I could have seen into the future and seen how his skin would improve with age!

thekitchenfairy Tue 15-Jan-13 21:24:54

azrael sorry missed your Q yesterday, where are you? I used a brilliant acupuncturist in Brighton, she is a paediatric specialist and found me a paediatric alternative when we located to the West Country! I could ask her for recommendation if you like?

Just a thought, especially if it is around the face, I love Argan oil, v expensive and it needs to be pure but it is lovely stuff, Jason's Organics make a vitamin E oil which is also fab, especially in this cold weather...it is £6.99 for 15oml.

thekitchenfairy Tue 15-Jan-13 21:26:33

Just re read your post... Have you considered goats milk? Cutting out dairy made a massive difference and if you have a look around online there is lots to support switching to goats milk for eczema sufferers.

HorsesDogsNails Tue 15-Jan-13 21:30:19

My friend swears by DermaSilk pj's for her DS - he was ravaged by excema from soon after birth and she discovered DermaSilk when he was about 18 months....... He is rising 4 and although not completely clear it is much more manageable.

Hth's

lovinbeingmum Wed 16-Jan-13 17:26:55

Azrael, bless you for this post!

DS has been having the same problem. Was diagnosed as a fungal infection at 6 months and we were prescribed a steroid cream and cetrabens. I came on to mumsnet today to search for reviews of homeopaths because I just couldn't believe that he has so many recurrent fungal infections!

What a coincidence on the post!

Thanks to you, I'm now educating myself on discoid eczema. (in his case I'm suspecting an egg allergy)

Anyway I'm still researching but two homeopaths that I've found through references are:

www.homeopathlondon.co.uk/phdi/p1.nsf/supppages/julian?opendocument&part=3

www.khushmark.me/site/

No idea how they are but I'm thinking of following up with Khush Mark. Please do pm me how your research goes. Would love to hear your experience....

miarosemum Thu 17-Jan-13 22:48:04

Lovingbeingmum, I have used Khush mark to treat my daughters chronic constipation and she is excellent! I can highly recommend her smile

lovinbeingmum Mon 21-Jan-13 21:37:06

thanks for the tip miarosemum saw her this weekend. she's given us quite a few suggestions.....let's see how it goes....

unfortunately we do have to stay away from egg white...it does make breakfasts a tad more difficult (DS not into cereal :/ )

SimLondon Tue 22-Jan-13 00:55:41

My dd has eczema, at one point fairly bad - i found the dermatology doctors at the hospital to be useless. When she started having scary allergic reactions i went to see a consultant privately about that and he advised dairy free which probably did help her eczema.

I came across this website from a family who's son had a severe allergy to detergent causing terrible eczema, http://www.solveeczema.org/problem.html they arent trying to sell anything on their website but they have done a lot of research into eczema.

Also - Jennifer Worth (author of call the midwife) wrote a book on having eczema caused by food allergies and being treated by homeopathic remedies http://www.amazon.co.uk/Eczema-Food-Allergy-Hidden-Cause/dp/1872560180/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1358816069&sr=8-1

Azrael Wed 23-Jan-13 04:27:43

Thekitchenfairy - sorry i wasn't around recently. Thanks for your posts! Oh that would be fabulous if you could ask your acupuncturist for a recommendation in West London! Or anywhere in London for that matter. Thanks so much. DS's been having diarrhoea for a week without looking unwell which seems to indicate a sensitivity to lactose - or so the GP thinks (getting a poo analysis). Think we're going to cut dairy out for some time! Will try the oil you mention.

Azrael Wed 23-Jan-13 04:34:27

Barleysugar, simlondon - thanks for the encouragement and insight. Read about Jennifer Worth, interesting to read about the link btw food and eczema.

lovinbeingmum - so good to hear i helped you! As you've started seeing a homeopath you're now one step ahead of me. Do you mind keeping us posted on the success of treatment? I saw that Kush Mark has a clinic in Harley Street - are her consultations expensive?

I'm keeping this on the thread so that everyone can benefit from the knowledge, but i'll also be pm'ing you to catch-up separately.

Ktay Wed 23-Jan-13 05:21:32

Am also sceptical so no personal experience, but a couple of people I know through the local NCT rave about this woman - she has clinics in twickenham and Kingston as well as via Skype.

My pharmacist suggested making sure dd2 is getting enough omega 3 so I have just started giving her a vitamin supplement with flaxseed. Obviously oily fish a great source too. Haven't noticed a marked improvement yet but early days and at least she should turn into a genius grin

makati Thu 24-Jan-13 20:04:47

Lactose free usually makes a big difference. My friends son (14yo now) still goes dairy free every winter as it really helps stop him developing chesty colds. My DS went to a homeopath when he was about 18months old for eczema and it was really effective. Good luck !

gemutlich Tue 29-Jan-13 12:53:17

I used to be Very sceptical about those little white pills but have been convinced many many times over. It still surprises me. I think its only as good a tool and the one who is using it. I have seen lots of terrible homeopaths. This one, Rix Pyke, 020 7771 0295, in Dulwich, literally saved my life earlier this year when I developed Rheumatic Fever....As I am allergic to several forms of antibiotics- from being overprescribed as a child, I had to try an alternative....she along with my chinese medicine guy saved me. She was recommended years ago by my osteopath, also amazing...and helped me through some very difficult hormonal stuff...and a lifelong chest lung weakness. I don't know what I'd do without her. I've recommended her to many of my own patients (I'm a nutritionist) for themselves and their children and they've all been grateful for the contact. I cannot recommend her more highly.

Azrael Fri 01-Feb-13 20:40:50

Thanks everyone for the recommendations.

Ktay I've contacted the person you mentioned, we're seeing her on Monday.

Ktay Sat 02-Feb-13 07:54:57

Good luck Azrael, would be interested to hear how you get on.

seeker Sat 02-Feb-13 07:58:25

Homeopathy is excellent for treating non-specific and/or time-limited conditions.

Panzee Sat 02-Feb-13 08:21:28

Absolutely seeker, like some childhood eczemas and the ones affected by the weather. smile

seeker Sat 02-Feb-13 08:53:30

It's particularly good for time limited conditions you've had for a while and have tried lots of other treatments for...........

egolito Mon 04-Feb-13 16:18:14

I am new! Azrael, my son has 5 severe food allergies and we have been admitted 5 times since August to Hospital for severe wheezing.(he is 24 months). Though not eczema, after trying lots of different course of actions I ended up combining clinical medicine (high doses of steroids given by his Respiratory Specialist)with homeopathy and (touch wood) it seems to work. My homoepath is back home (I consult him on Skype) but at the time of research was given a name: Dr Choy 02074362135 on Wimpole Street. Highly recommended to me. Also, Boniface Verney-Carron 02035442213 on Harley Street who is an ostheopath that specialises in babies, and he is lovely. You can google both of them.I too went to see Professor Lack prior to all the above so I think we have shared some experiences in that respect. I hope your DS is better....

Azrael Fri 01-Mar-13 22:42:26

Ktay, lovinbeingmum: just wanted to report on the progress since I promised I'd keep the thread updated.

I went to see Shaun Estrada in her Twickenham clinic a few weeks ago. She recommended a remedy to help heal DS's BCG (he reacted badly to it). Didn't do much. Then she gave me another remedy for his skin: only one pill in the morning - that was 10 days ago. I really can't tell whether it's getting better or worse. I think that the skin is looking slightly better (now it's only dry, but not so red), but DS has started to scratch his arm (only one side?!) over the last week or so. It even bled once, but with intense moisturising I got it back on track.

So this is me! I'm semi-convinced (semi dubious) that homeopathy is doing anything. I have the feeling that the relentless moisturising (6 times a day) with Zeroderm ointment is the reason why it's going fine.

Lovinbeingmum: how is your treatment going with Kush Mark? I'm curious to have an update.

Egolito: thanks for sharing this very useful information! So glad homeopathy seems to work for you.

PATTIEB Thu 15-May-14 07:02:14

I have first hand experience of Homeopathy and eczema and I can assure you that it works and it is not placebo! There is lots of research and numerous trials out there about Homeopathy. Start with the British Faculty of Homeopathy's website if at all interested in research and trials. And that's only a start.. It is very successful in the treatment of children and animals for many health problems both physical and emotional. So how is that placebo? How does that baby (or animal for that matter) know that they are being given a remedy?

You need a good Homeopath who manages the case properly. There are lots of good Homeopaths all over the UK. Just make sure that they trained at a recognised College. My daughter had awful eczema at around 6 months old and it was Homeopathy that cured her. It didn't just disappear on its own. And gradually disappear it did. A few pills of the right remedy (no creams nor ointments applied) and it went after about 1 month.

Her eczema appeared after a bad dose of nappy rash. It was so bad I took her to the GP who prescribed first an antifungal cream and then when that didn't work an antibacterial cream. All these creams did was to make it worse. Both the nappy rash and then eczema all over rapidly appeared.

Creams & ointments etc will not cure eczema long term. Try stopping the cream and see what happens. Does it come back? Of course it does because it isn't a cure. Many Homeopaths report that they see people in clinic with more serious conditions such as asthma, joint problems etc. On taking the case often (but not always of course) there is a history of eczema having been suppressed by ointments. Anyway, my daughter is now much older and the eczema has never returned. She is a very healthy and thriving young girl (in fact 12 now). She has never had an antibiotic in her life- all childhood health complaints have been dealt with by Homeopathy.

apermanentheadache Fri 16-May-14 13:12:08

"I can assure you that it works and it is not placebo! There is lots of research and numerous trials out there about Homeopathy"

It's true, there is lots of research evidence. And all of it that is credible credible has found that it does. not. work. any better than placebo.

It's great your DD has never needed antibiotics but that is probably because she has never been ill with a serious bacterial illness.

PATTIEB Fri 16-May-14 23:04:54

Sorry but that is not what the research says at all. If those sceptical analysed it properly they would see that from trials overall it does have a positive effect for many different health complaints. And yes my daughter has had a bacterial skin infection (other than the nappy rash which was also the same) and it worked wonders.

Anyway at the end of the day we should be allowed to choose which path to take with our health, without judgement and I know which one works for us.

RafaIsTheKingOfClay Sat 17-May-14 01:40:17

Homeopaths report that they see people in clinic with more serious conditions such as asthma, joint problems etc

Just in case anybody reads this and decides to take this advice, asthma and homeopathy do not mix well. Asthma kills. And on no account should anybody ever stop taking their prescribed asthma medication on the advice of a homeopath alone.

PATTIEB Sat 17-May-14 02:35:34

Yes I agree with you on the dangers of asthma and there is certainly no suggestion that a person stops their medication above! I am sure that a good Homeopath wouldn't advise you to immediately just stop. They would suggest that you continue to consult with your GP. Unless you are better of course. Again I have first hand experience of Homeopathy working very well alongside medication although not for asthma..

I simply mentioned that there is good positive research out there on Homeopathy for anyone prepared to look and read properly and my family have had a very good experience with it and esp with skin problems. And yes suppressing with ointment is not a long term cure and may well lead to other problems further down the line.

apermanentheadache Sat 17-May-14 10:44:36

There is an erroneous belief that sceptics are ignoring compelling evidence. I'm not. There is no good evidence it works and plenty of good evidence it doesn't. If you can offer links to good evidence it works better than placebo I would be completely willing to accept I am wrong.

It is not a good idea to stop preventive treatment for serious asthma even if you feel better. It can kill.

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