Mumsnetters aren't necessarily qualified to help if your child is unwell. If you have any serious medical concerns, we would urge you to consult your GP.

DS still asleep, what to do?

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DS is 15 months, been generally a bit grumpy for a week. Last night he was especially grumpy so calpol'ed him at put him to bed, he had a slight temperature. He hasnt woken since.

Waiting for an "urgent" call from GP nurse which will be this afternoon or possibly this evening.

Nothing specific, slight temp, was occasionally pulling at ears, decreased appetite. But he's completely un rousable, changed nappy with DD1 and 2 in the room jumping about and he just slept. He obviously is responsive because I've got a few oz of water into him and nurophen in him. But I cant wake him any more than that. So he's been asleep for 17 hours looks poorly but not collapsed. Occasional small cry but by the time I've got to his door he's asleep again.

So MNers should I call the GPs again, NHS direct or am I just wittling about nothing and let him sleep it off. DD2 has complex medical needs and I'm always on the ball with her getting her seen as appropriate. But a normal "abit unwell and sleeping child" has completely thrown me.

OwlCatMouse Wed 02-Jan-13 13:19:07

Call GP again.

OwlCatMouse Wed 02-Jan-13 13:20:12

Actually, I'd call the gp and say that you need seeing now, when can they fit you in?

Does he open his eyes and focus on you before drifting off again?

If not I would a&e.

If he does I'd try the GP again and ask if you can speak on the phone.

Iggly Wed 02-Jan-13 13:22:08

Call and explain. They should be able to fit you in.

My ds has been like this but once he's had ibuprofen he was up and about.

FairyJen Wed 02-Jan-13 13:22:34

I would be worried to be honest. Gp Definately I would also see if I could rouse him fully iyswim

Sugarice Wed 02-Jan-13 13:22:36

I would call GP and NHS direct immediately.

I would be very alarmed if my child was still sleeping after 17 hours uninterrupted but I am a worrier!

OwlCatMouse Wed 02-Jan-13 13:23:26

Does your GP shut for lunch? Ours always closes at 1pm before afternoon surgery - might be worth ringing them asap if this is the case

OwlCatMouse Wed 02-Jan-13 13:24:23

Try and wake him properly - sit him on your lap and try and get him conscious.

Tbh if you can't wake him I'd be v worried.

I would call. You should be able to get him to focus on you.

Hope hes ok.

CheungFun Wed 02-Jan-13 13:32:16

Im a worrier and have not got any experience, but I think I'd get him down to A&E and just get him checked out.

My GP wanted me to take DS to A&E when he was 2 weeks old because she was worried his breathing was too fast. The dr at A&E clearly thought the GP was being silly, but he checked out DS and was not at all bothered at having his time 'wasted'.

Better to put your mind at ease IMO.

Ring NHS direct.

I hope he's ok.

cakesonatrain Wed 02-Jan-13 13:33:24

My brother once slept for 17 hours. My mum made my dad go and check in him because she was too scared to. He has always loved his sleep!

However, in this situation, I would try very hard to wake him, and get medical advice soonest.

OohMrDarcy Wed 02-Jan-13 13:34:22

I would ring nhs direct personally

orangepudding Wed 02-Jan-13 13:35:01

I would get him checked our as soon as you can. The fact you can wake him after 17 hours is worrying

orangepudding Wed 02-Jan-13 13:35:35

The fact you can't

Eyes have been closed even when giving the water, which was cold so I thought that might provoke a response.

GP has just repeated that we are on the call back list for the triage nurse and she would call back later. No doctors available to talk to.

GP is about 1/4 hour walking distance from us (can't use taxis because of DD) they start appontments again at 2. I'm thinking of walking there and turning up just as doctors walk throught to start thier appontments. Then either I can do a loud announcement that he's un rousable and hope they see him or the triage nurse who should be ringing can see him when she's due to call.

DizzyHoneyBee Wed 02-Jan-13 13:38:33

NHS Direct or A&E.

Sirzy Wed 02-Jan-13 13:38:41

if he is so ill you cant wait for a gp then go to A and E

MrsMushroom Wed 02-Jan-13 13:39:16

Get to casualty....this happened to my DD and she was seriously dehydrated.

MrsMushroom Wed 02-Jan-13 13:39:52

Wait no longer...casualty now

malteserzz Wed 02-Jan-13 13:40:40

I agree with A and E and hope he's ok

Banderchang Wed 02-Jan-13 13:40:57

I would go to A&E

If that's the case then A&E now.

OwlCatMouse Wed 02-Jan-13 13:41:45

Ring NHS Direct now (0845 46 47). If they're concerned they will recommend an ambulance to A&E I suspect.

He probably is just ill and really tired, it's most likely nothing to worry about, but if you really can't wake him you need to be seen soon.

Sugarice Wed 02-Jan-13 13:41:54

I would phone NHS direct seeing as your GP doesn't seem too concerned .

A & E is an 1/2 walk and train ride away ( that DD doesnt cope well with) so if he needs seeing it would be good if the GPs to do it first if possible rather than wait for trains (1 an hour). Off to give waking him another go.

gymboywalton Wed 02-Jan-13 13:42:41

i would go to a and e right now


Hope he is ok!

gymboywalton Wed 02-Jan-13 13:43:19

dial 999 for an ambulance

your child is unrousable

he needs medical attention

OwlCatMouse Wed 02-Jan-13 13:43:52

Actualy, sod NHS direct - call 999 now, and give them the symptoms. If they are concerned they will send an ambulance.

fatcuntroller Wed 02-Jan-13 13:44:04

If you can't rouse him, you need to take him to a&e. How hard have you tried? Have you called his name, prodded him, stripped him off, blown on his face?

Sirzy Wed 02-Jan-13 13:44:17

Call a taxi and get to a and e. why waste time waiting for a Gp who may not be able to see him?

If he is as unrousable as you say he needs seeing

porthcurnick Wed 02-Jan-13 13:44:40

Bring him downstairs, see if you can wake him up.

If after you have really tried to rouse him, he won't focus on you, A&E.

Don't think just turning up at GP will help.

Sorry I hate threads like this everyone says A&E and the op makes excuses, Its just if I can get the GP to see him before 4ish then he will be seen a lot sooner than I can get him to A&E.

gymboywalton Wed 02-Jan-13 13:45:06

this is the first page of the symptom checker on nhs direct

Who the symptom checker is for
This health and symptom checker is for yourself or someone you are with. It may not be safe to use if the person you are enquiring for is not with you.

Before continuing with this health and symptom checker you need to make sure that:

the person is conscious and reacting to you normally or
if they are asleep, that they react to gentle shaking.
If you are with the person and you can't get them to react in any way, dial 999 and ask for an ambulance.

Make a big effort to wake him up ie stick him in a cool bath or something, im not a worrier at all but if that didnt work id be up to A&E. He's prob sleeping off a virus but I wouldnt take the risk. no doubt he'll wake up the second you get into A&E

CheungFun Wed 02-Jan-13 13:45:24

I would agree with the other posters that if you can't speak to a professional and the GP surgery is closed for lunch and you can't get to the hospital easily then ring 999 and they will have the experience to know what to do next.

OwlCatMouse Wed 02-Jan-13 13:45:38

The NHS symptom checker says

"the person is conscious and reacting to you normally or
if they are asleep, that they react to gentle shaking."

"If you are with the person and you can't get them to react in any way, dial 999 and ask for an ambulance."

Banderchang Wed 02-Jan-13 13:46:21

Not if you call an ambulance, surely. Have you REALLY tried rousing him? If he won't rouse then 999 now.

OpheliasWeepingWillow Wed 02-Jan-13 13:47:16


OwlCatMouse Wed 02-Jan-13 13:47:36

Right - I've done the symptom checker with the info you have given here and it recommends to call an ambulance.

Sugarice Wed 02-Jan-13 13:47:52

Give his symtoms to NHS direct, they will send am ambulance if they consider his symtoms serious, which they should!

I agree with above posts if he's totally unresponsive then ring 999 but if you don't think that's best then ring NHS direct, you need to be told what to do by a health professional.

OwlCatMouse Wed 02-Jan-13 13:48:42

Just ring now please. If the only thing that happens is that the operator tells you to get to your GP at 2pm, then fine.

But I think if you call 999 there will be an ambulance with you in under 10 mins.

RyleDup Wed 02-Jan-13 13:49:03

I would ring 999 and they will go through their checklist. If you can't wake him properly then I think they will almost certainly send an abulance. Dont waste time over this.

Maryz Wed 02-Jan-13 13:49:08

Put him in the car and take him to the gp, or your nearest walk in centre.

Or call 999.

gymboywalton Wed 02-Jan-13 13:50:01

please please don't take any chances with your baby's health
always better to be safe than sorry

ChristabelChristmas Wed 02-Jan-13 13:50:22

If it were me I would get him to A&E ASAP or call 999. You can't be too careful with your child's health so please do some proactive NOW. I'm worried about him so you definitely should be. Hope he's ok - I'm sure he will be but you have to make sure.

OwlCatMouse Wed 02-Jan-13 13:51:06

OP - it's a symptom of meningitis. If you really can't wake him you need medical attention immediately.

I personally would not wait for the gp to maybe see you at some point when they feel like it.

Have you managed to rouse him?

weegiemum Wed 02-Jan-13 13:53:23

Just spoke to my dh who is a GP (on call for emergencies today, Scotland has a ph on 2nd Jan).

He says call 999 and do it now. An unrousable child is a medical emergency, so please get him to hospital ASAP.

Fairylea Wed 02-Jan-13 13:53:57

999 ! Definitely !

UC Wed 02-Jan-13 13:54:36

If your DS cannot be roused, then CALL AN AMBULANCE!!! They will ask you questions, and if they think you need a&e, they will send an ambulance. Don't hang about waiting for trains!

Ok completely stripped off, shaking, proding hasnt worked ambulance has been called, on their way. They suggested taking him outside with just his nappy and he won't wake so will be taking us to hospital.

insancerre Wed 02-Jan-13 13:57:01

Hope you are ringing an ambulance.
Hope hs is ok

OwlCatMouse Wed 02-Jan-13 13:57:14

Oh CP - I hope he is alright. You've done the right thing. Hopefully he'll wake soon

Sirzy Wed 02-Jan-13 13:57:22


Hope all is ok

LadyGago Wed 02-Jan-13 13:57:23

I hope he is ok OP.

frazzled123 Wed 02-Jan-13 13:57:23

Hope all ok x

insancerre Wed 02-Jan-13 13:57:44

sorry xpost
fingers crossed for you

Sugarice Wed 02-Jan-13 13:57:47

Hope everything is ok sad.

You've done the right thing.

ChristabelChristmas Wed 02-Jan-13 13:58:16

Thinking of you x

gymboywalton Wed 02-Jan-13 13:58:29

glad to hear they are on their way- good luck-hope all is ok

Good luck, hope he's ok.

fatcuntroller Wed 02-Jan-13 13:58:59

You've definitely done the right thing. I hope he's ok. Please come back and update when you can...will be thinking of you.

Fairylea Wed 02-Jan-13 13:59:07

How worrying for you sad

Will be thinking of your poor little one. Let us know how you get on x

usualsuspect3 Wed 02-Jan-13 13:59:30

Hope he's ok.

You have done the right thing.

Hope he is ok.

KateUnrulyBush Wed 02-Jan-13 13:59:57

Keeping fingers crossed he is probably just sleeping off a virus. Glad 999 are on their way. You've done the right thing.

I was going to suggest taking him outside, glad to hear you have medical assistance coming.
I hope he's ok OP.

cafecito Wed 02-Jan-13 14:00:31

you've absolutely done the right thing CP

Banderchang Wed 02-Jan-13 14:01:10

Hope he's ok, you've done the right thing.

Glad they're coming. Have you got someone who can keep an eye on the other two for you?

GinGirl Wed 02-Jan-13 14:03:16

Well done, know making the decision to call is sometimes the hardest bit. You just don't want to admit that they might be that unwell.
I would have done the same had it been my 19 month old, and 15 months is a lot younger than that really.
Hope it passes as 'just a virus', take care.

SilverAndSparklyKat Wed 02-Jan-13 14:03:38

Keeping everything crossed for you OP, hope he's ok x

dontmixthecolours Wed 02-Jan-13 14:05:58

Hope he's ok

gobblegobs Wed 02-Jan-13 14:06:37

Good luck! Hope it turns out well!

DollySisterMadeNoResolutions Wed 02-Jan-13 14:06:57

Thinking of you. Hope it turns out to be 'just a virus' and he makes a swift recovery. Also, when it's over and the dust has settled I'd be contacting the gp. You spoke to someone twice, they took your details but were too busy to get a nurse or doctor to see you. Fair enough, but with the symptoms you described someone should have advised 999 or 111. It's worrying that they didn't and perhaps this needs bringing to their attention so staff can be retained.

BartletForTeamGB Wed 02-Jan-13 14:07:11

Gosh, I think people here are so often far too cautious but I am so, so relieved that I got the last page and you'd called an ambulance. I hope this in retrospect turns out to be an overreaction and nothing serious, but in this sort of case, it is an emergency. Hope he is okay.

LaVitaBellissima Wed 02-Jan-13 14:08:36

Hope he's ok, sending best wishes to you

tunnocksteacake Wed 02-Jan-13 14:09:19

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

BartletForTeamGB Wed 02-Jan-13 14:09:19

I don't often suggest complaining about doctors (I am one so can often see where they are coming from even if the MN collective doesn't), but I'd second dollysister. This sort of call firstly should NOT be left to a triage nurse and should have been dealt with by a doctor and secondly, you should have been advised to seek immediate medical help.

weegiemum Wed 02-Jan-13 14:10:02

Glad you've called. It is probably just a virus but you can't take any chances.

Hope he's ok. We're thinking of you.

timidviper Wed 02-Jan-13 14:10:22

Hope he is ok OP. Will be thinking of you.

When you are through this I also think you must take the surgery to task over this. You have an unrousable child and they have kept you waiting. Absolutely unacceptable.

UC Wed 02-Jan-13 14:12:03

Thank goodness. I hope he's ok OP.

Maryz Wed 02-Jan-13 14:12:14

Good luck.

Gillyweed001 Wed 02-Jan-13 14:12:46

Hope everything is OK, OP

ShhBoom Wed 02-Jan-13 14:24:39

Gosh, I hope he's okay OP & that's it's nothing serious. How worrying for you, I've got my fingers crossed.

AllYoursJingleBellbooshka Wed 02-Jan-13 14:25:07

Hope everything is alright, Clutching.

TheSecondComing Wed 02-Jan-13 14:29:00

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

cakesonatrain Wed 02-Jan-13 14:30:41

Hope he is ok.

how scary for you. Is there someone who can come and look after your DD for you? I hope you are all ok and he's just have a really, really, really good sleep to get over something.

orangepudding Wed 02-Jan-13 14:46:09

Am thinking about you and your son, hope he's okay.

Thinking of you. Hope all is ok x

FairyJen Wed 02-Jan-13 14:47:23

Everything is crossed for you x

Read this thread with my heart in my throat--so glad you called 999. Hope it turns out to be nothing, will keep my fingers crossed for you x

ALittleLemonTwist Wed 02-Jan-13 14:52:43

Fingers crossed OP

Medal Wed 02-Jan-13 14:54:32

Really hope he's ok.

SecretNutellaFix Wed 02-Jan-13 14:54:58

Hoping everything works out ok.

crookedcrock Wed 02-Jan-13 14:55:22

You poor thing, hope everything is ok. Had to blue light my ds4 to hosp during the break, it was terrifying. Thinking of you, you did the right thing.

Doyouthinktheysaurus Wed 02-Jan-13 14:58:11

Hoping everything is ok op, your poor DS.

MonsterBookOfTinsel Wed 02-Jan-13 15:00:42

Thinking of you all, hope he is ok

Hope he's ok x

PutOnAHappyFace Wed 02-Jan-13 15:03:31

Hope he's ok. Fingers crossed for you.

Thinking of you and your DS and family. Hope he is okay x

BigBoPeep Wed 02-Jan-13 15:05:29

Good luck! Hope it is nothing too serious sad

agree that it seems shocking your GP wouldnt ring back in a timely fashion for an unrousable child!? I am a worrier and would have been straight down to A&E blush

Oh gosh, so glad to see 999 has been called!
I read the thread backwards hoping to see that.

Hope all is well. There is no such thing as an overreaction with an unrousable child. Thinking of you all x.

weegiemum Wed 02-Jan-13 15:07:25

My dh just called to check that you have called an ambulance.

Please let us know how it goes!

BluelightsAndSirens Wed 02-Jan-13 15:12:27

Totally shocking behaviour from the doctors, I truly hope your son recovers well.

The call taker should have advised 999 in the very first call, poor child was unrousable for a very long time sad

So glad you have rang an.ambulance. Hope your ds is ok and we are being over cautious. Thinking of you.

GanglyGiraffe Wed 02-Jan-13 15:15:25

Hope he's ok OP sad envy

doyouwantfrieswiththat Wed 02-Jan-13 15:16:45

sad thinking of you & yours op

pinkbraces Wed 02-Jan-13 15:18:30

thinking of you, hope DS is on the road to recovery

omri Wed 02-Jan-13 15:20:44

Hope all is well with your ds op. please let us know how things are later today. Worried about your ds - my ds is same age. I can't imagine how distressing it must be not to be able to wake him. Good luck.

foofooyeah Wed 02-Jan-13 15:24:06

poor little mite - hope all is ok.

mama2moo Wed 02-Jan-13 15:24:07

I hope all is ok x

chocolateistheenemy Wed 02-Jan-13 15:24:21

Please update us when you can OP... I hope everything turns out to be ok.

Pancakeflipper Wed 02-Jan-13 15:26:29

Thinking of you. Hope all is going good at the hospital.

Hope he started singing songs in the ambulance and everything is ok now OP. Thinking of you.

essexmumma Wed 02-Jan-13 15:58:58

Good luck xx

NoBloodyMyrrh Wed 02-Jan-13 16:00:44

I hope he's ok xx

Thinking of you.

happydotcom Wed 02-Jan-13 16:02:09

Thinking of you xxxx

mrslaughan Wed 02-Jan-13 16:05:25

So pleased you called an ambulance, hope it is nothing serious , bloody gp's office should have told you to do that.
Better to be safe than sorry.

Fingers crossed for you and little one.

ubik Wed 02-Jan-13 16:08:44

I work in OOH In Scotland and our protocol is to phone an ambulance of patient unconscious, not responding or not breathing.

A child sleepier than usual will be high priority.

Glad you phoned ambulance, hope all is ok, op.

thegreylady Wed 02-Jan-13 16:12:16

Watching out for update-calling an mbulance was absolutely essential.I hope he is ok.

GuessWho04 Wed 02-Jan-13 16:12:20

Hope he is ok, and I would also complain about docs, they should have got in contact with you sooner.

ProPerformer Wed 02-Jan-13 16:14:26

Just marking my place for outcome.

I think the GP practice acted really despicably here.

Hope your little boy is doing better OP.

InVeryveryBadTaste Wed 02-Jan-13 16:33:19

Goodness really hope your ds is fine. Hopefully embarrassing you by chatting with the paramedics smile.
Fwiw I'm a GP receptionist and my alarm bells were ringing never mind a GP or nurse. If you have the energy/inclination after this then the issue needs raised I think. You'll not have any faith in them nowhmm

LadyBeagleEyes Wed 02-Jan-13 16:38:17

Hope all is ok OP.

OverlyYappyAlways Wed 02-Jan-13 16:42:36

Thinking of you op

Skang Wed 02-Jan-13 16:50:16

I really hope he's ok. I'm also astounded that the GP surgery didn't tell you to call 999 the first time you told them he was unrousable.

Hope all is ok Clutching, thinking of you, DS and your whole family

CheungFun Wed 02-Jan-13 16:55:18

Hope all is ok and your DS gets better soon.

5madthings Wed 02-Jan-13 16:56:11

Crap gp surgery!
Glad you called an ambulence and hope he is ok xx

FunnysInLaJardin Wed 02-Jan-13 16:57:04

how very scary for you Clutching. Hope everything is OK with your baby

Lollybrolly Wed 02-Jan-13 16:57:06

Glad you called for an ambulance.

I hope the hospital give him a thorough check over and that it is nothing too serious and that you both soon get home and you have some peace of mind.

Keeping everything crossed for you OP.

Smeggnog Wed 02-Jan-13 17:04:25

shock confused at your GP. Unresponsive baby that can't be roused, and they wouldn't see you/speak to you? I would make a complaint.

Really hope your DS is ok, OP. Thinking of you.

Stixswhichtwizzle Wed 02-Jan-13 17:07:12

Felt ill reading this, I'm horrified that with that info your GP said to wait!! I was so so relieved to see you called an ambulance. I hope all is well with your little one and he woke on route. Thinking of you.

butterfingerz Wed 02-Jan-13 17:07:39

Hope you and little DS are ok op. My 18 month DS was similar a few weeks ago, just wanted to sleep, took him to gp and it was a chest infection, after his first dose of abs, he quickly improved... hopefully its the same for you.

minmooch Wed 02-Jan-13 17:08:17

Hoping that everything is ok with your little one.

notapizzaeater Wed 02-Jan-13 17:11:32

Keep coming back to check for news - hope he's punching round a and e now after a huge rest grin

FlojoHoHoHo Wed 02-Jan-13 17:14:09

Hope he's ok.

tunnocksteacake Wed 02-Jan-13 17:15:45

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

GoGetGone Wed 02-Jan-13 17:16:40

Hope all well

Hoping all is well.

Nicknamenotavailableeither Wed 02-Jan-13 17:20:26

Gosh I felt sick reading this. I really hope everything is ok OP and I am soooo glad you called the ambulance. Please update when you can. Thinking of you and your family.

FannyFifer Wed 02-Jan-13 17:29:08

Just saw this now, hope all is ok.

Onezerozero Wed 02-Jan-13 17:30:56

Hope everything is OK.

another one here hoping he is ok.

Just updated and its disappeared, I've try doing it properly again later.

Just popped home as neighbours have said they will have DDs tonight and sort out school/nursery in the morning (thankfully they start back tomorow) just waiting for her DH to arrive home to take me back.

DS is poorly, he's still not awake but is reacting to them injecting him etc. They have now given him some medication to sedate him a little and let him have a more restfull sleep. They have found 3 chicken pox on the bottom of his foot. They think he has some swelling in/on the brain that's been caused by the chicken pox getting onto his brain. They are scanning him soon to see but have started him on some medication to treat that and said even if it not that causing the swelling the chicken pox aren't helping so they will help him get ridof them. He's had a lumbar puncture but the doctor says that's a precaution. They have said he's poorly but not anymore poorly than the many children they deal with each week, not sure if thats the truth or they are just being kind. Guess it means he's doing ok.

Sorry for the typos I'm now trying on my phone and that likes to make its own words up and puts them anywhere in the sentence.

I just feel so shocked, when I started this thread I was convinced you would all tell me to stop being stupid and not to waste the nurses time. Even in the ambulance I was worrying how we would get home without the pushchair later on today when they discharge us but now this. It was only when the doctors kept on coming to see DS and no one left to see another patient that I thought 'shit, this isn't just sleeping it off'

Thank god you guys kicked me into gear and got me to see sense.I was so convinced I was worrying over nothing,
And now I don't know what to think. Thanks for showing your concern, especially the doctor who rang the MNer back to check I had pulled my finger out.

Can't think passed what I'm going to find at the hospital it still doesn't feel like my little baby whose sick, but when we get back and when he's home safe and well I'll have a think about the GPs practice.

Anyway got to go, thanks so much without you lot I would probably be still sat at home waiting for him to wake up.

Right, off to the hospital again soon.

I'm so glad he's being looked after. Look after yourself too OP. Fx he wakes up soon

Sending lots os positive thoughts your way.

Onezerozero Wed 02-Jan-13 17:42:57

Take care.
He is in the best place to be looked after now. I am so glad you went in when you did.

5madthings Wed 02-Jan-13 17:42:59

Oh goodness me. He is in the right place, fingers crossed he makes a speedy recovery xxx

thegreylady Wed 02-Jan-13 17:43:07

Thank you for taking the time to update us.Everyone is rooting for you and your baby.I do hope all will be well.

butterfingerz Wed 02-Jan-13 17:43:45

Bless you, I've had an ambulance out three times for my DS in the past (asthma, allergy related) and I always went through that 'does this really warrant an ambulance?' thoughts, its normal, you don't want to waste the time of others that really need it. But at that age, its so hard to judge, its more of an art than a science!

I really hope he perks up quickly on his meds, my DS was very poorly with cp, it can be a nasty virus for some, hopefully thats all he's dealing with.

Lots of hugs, they'll take good care of him.

Sirzy Wed 02-Jan-13 17:44:37

Sorry it is something serious, but so pleased he is being seen.

Please keep us updated as you get a chance, my thoughts with you all

BluelightsAndSirens Wed 02-Jan-13 17:45:56

Fucking hell I am so glad you asked for advice.

So sorry your baby is so poorly and we will all be here for you when you need us, do you have anyone in RL to support you?

Sending good wishes and speedy recovery blessings your way x

Hope your ds is ok. Thinking of you thanks

Fairylea Wed 02-Jan-13 17:50:37

Gosh how scary sad

I'm so sorry for you and your ds. I'm sure they will look after him wonderfully.

Take care of yourself too Xx

Gillyweed001 Wed 02-Jan-13 17:51:01

He us being looked after now. Hope he gets better soon.

minmooch Wed 02-Jan-13 17:52:10

Thank you for updating. Sorry your baby is poorly but hope that they will get him better quickly. thinking of you

chocolateistheenemy Wed 02-Jan-13 17:53:17

So they're thinking it's poss a complication from the chickenpox? Did you know he even had it?! Im so pleased he's getting the help he needs and glad your neighbour is so lovely. Now you can focus on him, and his recovery.
Hope you've remembered to eat and drink yourself today.

oh gosh, I'm sorry he's so unwell - but yes, he's in the right place now and they can look after him. Great that your neighbours can help out tonight. Is there anything you need that anyone here could help with? I'm in East Anglia if that's any help?

Hope he is all better soon.

That GP surgery is disgraceful, I know it'll be the last thing on your mind but you really need to make a complaint.

Very un-MNetter hugs to you both

OpenMindedSceptic Wed 02-Jan-13 17:56:02

Poor little mite, hope he feels better soon!

ChippingInLovesChristmasLights Wed 02-Jan-13 18:00:23

Please post when you can. I'm sending you lots of love & strength to get through this. I don't want to say much right now, but I am worried for your DS sad x

When the time is right - you need to put in a report regarding your surgery.

tunnocksteacake Wed 02-Jan-13 18:04:45

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

OwlCatMouse Wed 02-Jan-13 18:15:04

Oh god, poor little thing. Thank feck you called an ambulance though.

Hope all is well very very soon

FancyPuffin Wed 02-Jan-13 18:16:05

Just seen this thread and read the opening OP with my heart in my throat.

So glad that the hospital are taking good care of him, very sorry that he is so poorly though sad

Fingers crossed for a speedy recovery.

rubyslippers Wed 02-Jan-13 18:18:54

he's in the right place now - really hope he makes a very speedy recovery

have been watching this thread - poor little mite

you must feel exhausted

take care thanks

Sugarice Wed 02-Jan-13 18:19:26

Thinking of you. smile

marquesas Wed 02-Jan-13 18:21:17

How scarey for you, fingers crossed that he picks up soon.

OpheliasWeepingWillow Wed 02-Jan-13 18:21:22

Poor baby! sad

Lots of good vibes coming over the channel.

As for the doctors surgery... angry That is one hefty complaint I'd be putting in

swooosh Wed 02-Jan-13 18:22:17

thinking of you op x

DollySisterMadeNoResolutions Wed 02-Jan-13 18:22:47

Well done you for not waiting it out, for seeking advice elsewhere and acting on it. Hope you get back to hospital to find that the meds are starting to have the desired affect. Hope your Ds' recovery is quick.

Sending thoughts and prayers your way. I hope your DS gets better quickly x

JeewizzJen Wed 02-Jan-13 18:23:37

Hoping for a speedy recovery for your little man OP.

VeganCow Wed 02-Jan-13 18:24:47

Ah hope the little one will be ok very soon smile

Twinklestarstwinklestars Wed 02-Jan-13 18:27:30

Hope he is ok x

cocoachannel Wed 02-Jan-13 18:27:45

Do you have transport back to the hospital? Post if you need it - someone may be able to help. I'd be very willing to drive you there if you're anywhere near me.

I hope he makes a speedy recovery. Wishing you every strength.

RockPaperScissorsLizardSpock Wed 02-Jan-13 18:28:49

Wishing you a speedy recovery little CP xx

Cripes, well done for taking action as you did.
Best wishes to him and you all, hoping for good news v soon xx.

LadyMaryChristmas Wed 02-Jan-13 18:31:00

How scary for you. sad He's in the best place and I'm certain that they will care for him like he's their own child. I hope he recovers quickly and is home with you soon xx

PickledInAPearTree Wed 02-Jan-13 18:37:50

Just wanted to pass on my good wishes xxx

Thinking of you & your little boy xx

Holding your hand and hoping your little fella gets well very soon x

TheDeadlyDonkey Wed 02-Jan-13 18:47:48

Hope all's well very soon xx

Just want to add my good wishes to. Hope things progress well and I am so glad that you decided to take the other posters advice.

I will be keeping you and your family in my thoughts and prayers (that's if you don't mind.)

gymboywalton Wed 02-Jan-13 18:53:34

oh poor little dot and poor you-how frightening for you
so glad you called an ambulance
he's in the best place now

RillaBlythe Wed 02-Jan-13 18:56:24

Hope all is well for him very soon.

DefiniteMaybe Wed 02-Jan-13 18:57:06

Hope your baby is ok soon op

MunchkinsMumof2 Wed 02-Jan-13 18:58:28

I hope ds is much better asap, you poor things, it must have been frightening. He's in the best place now, hope you can get some rest.

Blardy hell - CHICKENPOX?

My DD was admitted with a right dose of chickenpox, had no idea it could cause any sort of brain doodahs.

Am very glad you are not still waiting to be triaged.

Hope all settles down quickly and you get home soon.

Thinkingof4 Wed 02-Jan-13 19:05:47

OP hope your baby is on the mend with the right medical care, sounds like he is being well looked after. Thinking of you, must be a very stressful tIme. Keeping everything crossed here

extracrunchy Wed 02-Jan-13 19:22:16

Oh gosh this must be so scary for you. Glad he's in the right place now to get it sorted. Thinking of you all xx

LadyBeagleEyes Wed 02-Jan-13 19:39:30

Best of wishes to little boy, Op.
Should you come back, if you let people know where you are, I know people will want to help.

chocolateistheenemy Wed 02-Jan-13 19:42:20

Someone from the GP surgery should be hauled over the coals for this.
A mum calls, saying her 15mo DS is unrousable. Receptionist tells her they're very busy but a practice nurse will call back when possible - probably later in the afternoon/evening.
What on earth was that person thinking?!?! The correct response would be "Hang up now, and call 999". They didn't even deem it worthy of a callback from an actual doctor.
My DM worked for several years as a practice receptionist/secretary and got dreadfully ill through worrying about whether she had said or done the right thing. She left the job once she realised she couldn't sleep at night worrying for the patients. She was a meticulously careful receptionist and the surgery missed her a lot.
Chickenpox has some nasty complications, particularly if a sufferer has underlying health problems. I really, really am thankful that collectively we got OP and her DS to A&E... I hope he is starting to respond to treatment now.

jeepers! so so glad you called 999. i hope its nothing too serious and he'll make a quick recovery. remember to eat and drink yourself while he's in good hands. you need to keep your strength up too.

i would certainly complain about the drs surgery... and complain to the highest level. it could have turned out so differently had you waited till they "decided you were important enough".

there's a fb page called justice for lucie... she lost her little girl because the receptionist refused to let her see a docter... the girl was seriously ill and was actually at the surgery at the time angry

PenguinBear Wed 02-Jan-13 19:47:20

Hope all is well op, thinking of you and your DS!

Chocolate is right. This thread will be a good prompt for what happened. Definitely needs to be some retraining at GP practice.

I have also just seen this OP & I am so sorry your little one is so poorly, but am pleased you called the ambulance & he is getting help now.

How utterly terrifying for you.

I am thinking of you all

Oh gosh, I'm so glad you called 999. Hope his treatment goes well.

GaryBuseysTeeth Wed 02-Jan-13 19:54:30

Hope he is feeling perkier soon OP
Thinking of you & your little boy tonight xx

Piemistress Wed 02-Jan-13 19:55:16

Thinking of you OP and hope your DS gets better soon x

HildaOgden Wed 02-Jan-13 19:55:53

Hope he rallies soon,poor little man sad

MyCatsRule Wed 02-Jan-13 19:58:21

Thinking of you. Hope your DS is soon feeling better. X

ShhBoom Wed 02-Jan-13 20:01:03

sad Thinking of you & your little man & wishing him a speedy recovery. How terrifying for you all.

LaCiccolina Wed 02-Jan-13 20:03:30

God bless ur baby. Hope gets better fast. Take care best wishes xxx

KellyEllyChristmasBelly Wed 02-Jan-13 20:08:20

Thinking of you and your family. Hope your little one makes a speedy recovery x

Four4me Wed 02-Jan-13 20:08:51

I read the thread earlier and have been thinking of you and your little ds. I hope he gets better quickly. Glad you have help with the dd's.

Will continue to think of him and you all. XXXXXXXX

Footface Wed 02-Jan-13 20:10:05

Thinking of you and little one. X x

juliep27 Wed 02-Jan-13 20:15:40

thinkin of you hope your little man get's better soon.x

BeaWheesht Wed 02-Jan-13 20:21:30

Hope he makes quick recovery

PiratePetesPotty Wed 02-Jan-13 20:26:52

Welldone OP for calling the ambulance. Glad your DS is being looked after and hope he recovers quickly.

OhyouMerryLittleKitten Wed 02-Jan-13 20:28:32

Another one thinking of you and your ds.

Stixswhichtwizzle Wed 02-Jan-13 20:33:46

sad To go from questioning whether an ambulance is necessary to being told its actually very serious must be terrifying. I'm so so glad you asked advice and that your little one is getting care and attention he needs. Thank you for taking time out to update and I hope you have someone to hold your hand through this. If not then I can offer a virtual hand hold.

SlinkyB Wed 02-Jan-13 20:35:05

Just read this thread, hope you're ok OP and that your little boy responds quickly to the treatment. He's in the best possible hands now.

Thinking of you and your family x

ihearttc Wed 02-Jan-13 20:38:03

Thinking of you and am so angry on your behalf at your totally useless GP.

DS1 had Chicken pox when he was 3...about 4 weeks later he was completely recovered but went a bit "odd" for want of a better word at nursery-very sleepy and said his head hurt. Picked him up and took him to GP who asked if he had been ill recently and as soon as I said yes CP she called an Ambulance and we were bluelighted to hospital. They thought he had encephalitis which I assume is what the OP's little boy has as by the time he got to hospital was really unrousable. Luckily after loads of tests and huge doses of painkillers he came round and was completely fine...they came to the conclusion it was a severe migraine (he has never had one since).

Honestly CP puts the fear of god into me and Im terrified of DS2 getting it.

sittinginthesun Wed 02-Jan-13 20:38:34

Just read this - hope your LO has a restful night. X

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

OPeaches Wed 02-Jan-13 20:43:07

I read this thread earlier with my heart in my mouth too. OP, I'm wishing your wee boy a quick recovery. X

MummyPig24 Wed 02-Jan-13 20:43:42

Really hope your little guy is ok!

Luciana123 Wed 02-Jan-13 20:49:09

OP, you poor, poor thing. Well done for getting him the help he needed. He is the best place now and being looked after. Fingers crossed for you all. Try and get some rest yourself too. X

NilentSight Wed 02-Jan-13 20:52:18

Hope your little boy recovers quickly and is back home with you very soon x

chinam Wed 02-Jan-13 21:04:01

The poor pet. Hope he recovers soon. I agree with the previous poster who said your GP surgary need to be brought to book for this.

starfishmummy Wed 02-Jan-13 21:09:40

Thinking of you and your little one, op

Blatherskite Wed 02-Jan-13 21:09:50

It's stories like this that make the idea of Chicken Pox "parties" scare the shit out of me.

Hope your DS is OK Op.

Borntobeamum Wed 02-Jan-13 21:12:40

💐 For you x x

BluelightsAndSirens Wed 02-Jan-13 21:14:44

Yes once everything is back on track a letter should be sent to the practice general manager with copies sent to the hospital director.

The first phone call should never have been put on a waiting list, I'm assuming the surgery was open so the call was taken via reception with no appointments available versus call to ooh call centre who would have triaged the call?

It really is basics, is the patient responding to you? No - 999

And clutching is in way responsible for the course of events, she placed her trust in calling for medical advice and she was let down. Sends chills up my spine to think what would have happened if she didn't have mumsnet as a source of help in a time where she was so misguided by her medical practitioner.

Clutching, if you want or need any help in writing a letter/email I'm willing to help you.

Lots of best wishes and I really hope your sons vaccinations are all upto date.

BluelightsAndSirens Wed 02-Jan-13 21:17:15

Is that a secret cryptic code for something born? grin

incogneetow Wed 02-Jan-13 21:22:24

Hope he improves soon, and you're able to juggle everything else to be with him as much as possible.

cafecito Wed 02-Jan-13 21:23:08

Hoping he is doing well. My DD had encephalitis and liver failure caused mainly by a virus- and I was in ICU with a little boy who had the same but his was just caused by vzv (chicken pox). He made a brilliant recovery. It can happen but it's excellent they have identified the cause so soon and once treatment commences recovery can be very quick. Thinking of you, OP, like someone else said, post if you need any help. xx

ZebraInHiding Wed 02-Jan-13 21:23:44

Well done mn'ers! Have just read this thread now and it is amazing.

OP, so sorry to hear about your poorly ds. Hoe he recovers very soon. Don't forget to look after yourself as well.

LegoAcupuncture Wed 02-Jan-13 21:24:53

Poor little boy. Hope he is better soon x

Carrotcakeisace Wed 02-Jan-13 21:25:09

Just to say I'm thinking of you and your little man, take care of yourself as well as him

weegieman your dh is a star, say thank you to him- what a fabulous doctor (unlike the op's own practice)

rhondajean Wed 02-Jan-13 21:28:25

I've been reading this all day while out and about and not been able to post, op I hope your little boy is ok, and I'm really hoping you complain about the go surgery once things are back to normal.

Poor little mite.

pepperrabbitanddesultorytinsel Wed 02-Jan-13 21:36:07

How frightening for you all, I hope he makes a speedy recovery.

thisthreadwilloutme Wed 02-Jan-13 21:44:42

Thinking about you. Hope your ds makes a quick recovery.

Level3at6months Wed 02-Jan-13 21:47:50

I've just read through your thread - I so hope your DS is soon on the mend. My DS had similar complications following chickenpox after similarly woolly treatment by OOH Dr. Luckily 8 yrs on we have a super healthy boy, but cp talk always gives me shivers. I'll be thinking about you all.

Bundlejoycosysweet Wed 02-Jan-13 21:48:26

Sending lots of get well vibes your way.

Wishing you all the best.

ILikeWhisperingToo Wed 02-Jan-13 21:51:21

Holy crap sad
Thinking of you all x

rstuk Wed 02-Jan-13 21:51:48

Thinking of you and your little one thanks

ILikeWhisperingToo Wed 02-Jan-13 21:52:54

Bluelights v.good points made.
Really hope OP and DS are ok.

TheWalkingDead Wed 02-Jan-13 22:05:07

I just wanted to say I'm thinking of your little one and you. It's terrifying when you can't rouse your ill child, and the GP should have immediately been ordered to call you, or the receptionist should have sought advice, especially when they
are so small.

DS2 had roseola infantum when he was about 14 months and I couldn't rouse him and he had a high temp. I called the GP and the receptionist was great, got hold of a dr and he demanded I bring him in immediately. Luckily it was only mild and treatable dehydration, but with small children it really matters.

Hope everything is peaceful overnight xx

twofalls Wed 02-Jan-13 22:07:53

Really hope your ds is on the mend soon. Xx

Luciana123 Wed 02-Jan-13 22:08:28

Absolutely agree with*Bluelights*. I think I would demand an appointment with the practice manager and go with letter in hand. Surely it should be obvious what to do if you are properly trained as a medical receptionist. Shocking. So glad, OP, your gut told you it needed questioning.

MrsMushroom Wed 02-Jan-13 22:12:35

zebra Im not being rude but this isn't the place to congratulate people or say how amazing the thread is.

OP I really hope your little boy is ok today...the doctor saying he's poorly but not more than any child they see regularly is a really good thing imo. How utterly terrifying for you to have the shock of all this.

I will be thinking of him and

ZebraInHiding Wed 02-Jan-13 22:19:09

Mrsmushoom. blush I just meant that it was amazing that the mn'ers helped someone in need to get the help they needed.

Pancakeflipper Wed 02-Jan-13 22:20:44

I know what you meant Zebra.

ZebraInHiding Wed 02-Jan-13 22:20:53

I will report and get it deleted.

Djembe Wed 02-Jan-13 22:27:06

Adding my best wishes OP, stay strong x

BluelightsAndSirens Wed 02-Jan-13 22:27:39

I don't think you need to report anything zebra

It is amazing that clutching doubted her own thoughts and thankfully posted here, she received support and guidance into dong the right thing without one post telling her to get off MN and dial 999 or questioning why she was wasting time here when she should be with her child.

That is a pat on the back for MN that there are people here that are willing to help and guide, I must admit to being frustrated reading clutching was hesitating on dialling 999 when my whole instinct was shouting "get a fucking ambulance you womble"

So yes well done *clutching for trusting your instincts and posting, well done all that advised 999 and other helpful replies and yes, an amazing thread that I hope helps some one else when faced with an out of the norm scenario, who knows they may just remember this thread and act accordingly.

<falls off soap box>

Pancakeflipper Wed 02-Jan-13 22:31:31

<shoves Bluelights back up into the sitting position and wafts a fan >

CatPussRoastingOnAnOpenFire Wed 02-Jan-13 22:32:41

I hope your DS is ok OP. Its awful when liitle ones are ill. Sending lots of vibes for a fast recovery. xx

magicOC Wed 02-Jan-13 22:33:25

Another one who is sending get well soon wishes to your little one OP. Very frightening time for you and i'm pleased you are having RL support with your other children.

Whoever took the call at the GP surgery needs a good talking too, but, I noticed a few posters blaming the GP. Who's to say the call/message was ever transferred on from the initial call?

Zebra, I understood what you were trying to say too and didn't see any harm in it.

OliviaPeaceOnMumsnet (MNHQ) Wed 02-Jan-13 22:34:49


I don't think you need to report anything zebra

Yes, we'll leave this one.

Sending all best wishes to your DS from HQ, OP

magicOC Wed 02-Jan-13 22:35:33

Bluelights and Pancakes Well said

everlong Wed 02-Jan-13 22:35:52

Saw this thread earlier. Sending my love OP to you and ds.

Poor zebra.. don't think she deserved that tbh.

everlong Wed 02-Jan-13 22:37:17

X with mnhq.. Glad it's being left.

magicOC Wed 02-Jan-13 22:38:56

* sirens

BluelightsAndSirens Wed 02-Jan-13 22:40:06

I prefer pancakes.

Maryz Wed 02-Jan-13 22:41:04

I hope you are all ok.

Remember, if they have sedated him it might look worse before it looks better, but they will know how to treat him.

It is a reminder to us all to not feel embarrassed to ask for help. As parents, if we are worried, we shouldn't be frightened to say so.

The doctors (or receptionists) should be ashamed.

Gosh hoping that your little one is ok. How scary x
Good luck, hope he is improving x

BartletForTeamGB Wed 02-Jan-13 22:53:12

Completely agree with the MNHQ decision. "I'm not being rude but" is so often the start of saying something rude to something! I am just very glad that the OP took on board the MN collective advice and that her DS is in the right place now.

Get well soon, lad! And sending big hugs to the OP. This must be terrifying to watch so I hope the doctors and nurses are able to reassure you and that you can also get some rest tonight.

EllenJaneisstillnotmyname Wed 02-Jan-13 22:55:03

Hope he's doing well, OP. I'm sure lots of us can relate to almost needing permission from someone to call 999. So glad you posted here. (((hugs)))

RubyrooUK Wed 02-Jan-13 22:57:14

So glad your son is in hospital and will be thinking of you. I remember when my own DS was rushed to hospital and given a lumbar puncture. It's very scary but I hope he will be fine now. X

Goodness OP, best wishes for your DS, I hope he's on the mend soon and you and the rest of the family are ok.

I had no idea chicken pox could be so nasty, yikes.

DontYouJingleMyChristingle Wed 02-Jan-13 23:22:13

Only just read this now.

Sending my best wishes for your ds, so glad you trusted your instincts and that you received the correct advice on here.

shock at the gp surgery, either the practice manager or designated complaints manager should be informed once your son has recovered.

ChasedByBees Thu 03-Jan-13 00:28:02

Sending get well thoughts, I hope your DS picks up soon x

MrsMushroom Thu 03-Jan-13 00:51:23

Sorry to Zebra for being uppity about nothing.

OP am still thinking of you and your baby.xx Hope he's already on the mend.

nannyof3 Thu 03-Jan-13 00:55:02

Moral of this thread... If u cant wake ur baby... Its urgent ring 999 !!!!!!

PowerPants Thu 03-Jan-13 01:04:52

Massive get well wishes to Mini Clutching, thinking of you.

Sending lots of love, OP

BloominMarvellous Thu 03-Jan-13 01:17:54

I read the thread earlier and having been wishing and hoping ever since that OP's DS is OK. sad

HeadfirstForAMistletoeKiss Thu 03-Jan-13 01:35:11

I hope he is well and home soon.

I appreciate the sentiment behind Zebra's post too, I don't think it was misplaced.

KateUnrulyBush Thu 03-Jan-13 03:10:01

Keeping fingers crossed here too x

clutching been thinking of you and your little boy all night, hope he is getting better. Sending lots of un-mumsnetty hugs.

Borntobeamum Thu 03-Jan-13 07:54:59

I hope we hear better news this morning.
I'm sure it's been a very long night for the OP.
Love and healing wishes being sent from Yorkshire x

Sugarice Thu 03-Jan-13 07:55:08

Morning Clutching how are things this morning?

dontmixthecolours Thu 03-Jan-13 08:13:20

Hope tour boy is doing a bit better this morning clutching

DollySisterMadeNoResolutions Thu 03-Jan-13 08:56:19

Hope there's been some improvement overnight, Clutching. Thinking of you.

How is he this morning? X

Morning Clutching, have been thinking about you. Hope your wee man is improving

Oh, I've just read through this, how sad! I was in a similar position, and took DD to the GP without an appt. Just walked in and said she was unrousable and they saw me (they can't refuse to treat a child apparently) 5 mins with GP and she suspected meningitis. Very scary rush to hospital, where it turned out she had a really bad chest infection, and was sleepy due to low 02. Recovered quickly thankfuly

I will be thinking of you and your DS through the day, and got my fingers crossed hes better soon

Woodifer Thu 03-Jan-13 09:21:34

Get well soon mini-clutcing!

Mockingcurl Thu 03-Jan-13 09:23:46

I hope your little boy is ok this morning. Thinking of you.

DoubleLifeIsALifeHalved Thu 03-Jan-13 09:27:50

I hope your Ds is ok op, lots of good wishes. Really worrying & poor you. Xxx

I was Thinking of you last night. Glad to hear he's in the best place to get sorted. Hope he improves quickly.

MummyPig24 Thu 03-Jan-13 09:37:45

Clutching how is your ds this morning? Thinking of you all.

more good wishes here. Hope you all got some sleep. Well, not DS, hope he was refusing to lie down and getting into trouble for cot misbehaviour...

mama2moo Thu 03-Jan-13 10:40:20

Fingers crossed for good news today x

Wishing you well. Hope your ds recovers soon and is home with you.

EllenJaneisstillnotmyname Thu 03-Jan-13 10:50:07

Thinking of you this morning. Hope your little one is making good progress. X

crookedcrock Thu 03-Jan-13 11:04:22

Clutching, checking in to see how your little son is. Best wishes to you, I'll be thinking of you-he is in the best possible place x

Have just read whole thread, and just want to add my best wishes and thoughts for you and your ds. I hope there has been much improvement by now. (((Hugs))) xx

MrRected Thu 03-Jan-13 11:34:43

Hope your Ds is ok... Let us know when you get a chance.

Just sending my thoughts to you and your DS too. Thinking of you.

RudolphLovesoftplay Thu 03-Jan-13 11:45:52

I really hope your baby is on the mend now. Poor wee thing sad

ChippingInLovesChristmasLights Thu 03-Jan-13 11:55:18

Just popping in to see how DS is doing x

ots Thu 03-Jan-13 12:07:56

Hope your little DS is better this morning xx

Sargesaweyes Thu 03-Jan-13 12:15:04

Just read this. Sending you lots of love and I hope ds is getting better.

happydotcom Thu 03-Jan-13 14:13:47

I hope all is ok. Sending lots of positive thoughts thanks

Really hoping he's improving clutching positive vibes being sent your way. Hoping you have lots of RL support.

Fingers crossed that he's on the mend. Thinking of you x

SnowHOHOboarder Thu 03-Jan-13 15:39:10

Just read this thread through. How awful for Clutching and her wee boy. Sending much love and wishes for a speedy recovery.

Pudgy2011 Thu 03-Jan-13 15:39:17

I've been following this thread and was hoping for news (5 hours behind GMT) - I have a 15 month old DS too OP, I can't imagine the worry you must be going through.

Sending a mountain of positive thoughts and hand holding your way x

PutOnAHappyFace Thu 03-Jan-13 15:48:44

Can't stop checking this thread hoping for good news. I hope Op is just too busy cuddlin her DS to update us.

notapizzaeater Thu 03-Jan-13 15:53:16

Feel like a stalker checking this that often grin

Hope ds is much better x

Jemma1111 Thu 03-Jan-13 16:24:12

Hope your little boy is ok x

DuchessofMalfi Thu 03-Jan-13 16:58:07

Hope you DS is improving now? Wishing you all the best thanks

DuchessofMalfi Thu 03-Jan-13 16:58:45


rhondajean Thu 03-Jan-13 16:59:01

Hoping and praying for a positive update soon too. Been thinking about you both all day clutching.

chocolatelime Thu 03-Jan-13 17:11:39

Just wanted to send my best wishes and I hope that your DS is feeling much better today.

charlieandthechocolatecake Thu 03-Jan-13 17:23:04

I have also been following. I hope all is well thanks

Thinking of you and your DS - hope he's better very soon.

And shock now I understand why, when I came onto MN to moan I had chicken pox at the age of 21, you all told me to stay away from uni/public places til I was completely better! Had NO idea it could cause such serious things in a young child.

LilyPickle Thu 03-Jan-13 17:30:30

Still no news? Fingers tightly crossed all is ok.

Sending best wishes and many hopes that your wee Ds is jumping around now. Lots of hugs and positive thoughts your way.

heronsfly Thu 03-Jan-13 17:56:44

Just looking to see if there is any news, hope your ds is making a good recovery.

Pancakeflipper Thu 03-Jan-13 18:05:18

Just another checking back in to see if your little one is much much better. Hoping all ok x

Fivemoreminutesmummy Thu 03-Jan-13 19:14:28

Hoping all is ok with your DS, sending you un-MNetty hugs

Frikadellen Thu 03-Jan-13 19:24:51

Hope your ds is better op

crikeybill Thu 03-Jan-13 19:37:33

Just checking in hoping everything is OK. Been genuinely worried all day.

Lollybrolly Thu 03-Jan-13 19:38:53

Another one checking in and hoping all is well.

McPhee Thu 03-Jan-13 19:47:09

Sending get well soon wishes to your Ds

HQ - Lots of people seem unaware how dangerous CP can be. Is there anything we can do to highlight this?

BloominMarvellous Thu 03-Jan-13 19:49:01

I do hope everything is ok. I have been thinking about you all day OP.

I was oblivious to the dangers of CP so maybe something could be written identifying the risks and things to look out for?

ILikeWhisperingToo Thu 03-Jan-13 19:57:04

Just checking in. Really hope all is ok and your DS is on the mend.

miniegg1980 Thu 03-Jan-13 20:07:49

Hope things are ok. Sending hugs to you all xx

ledkr Thu 03-Jan-13 20:13:20

Hope it's ok to post this on here but my ds also developed complications from chicken pox yrs ago. Don't underestimate it when your dc get it.
Just wanted to add that to add weight to the warnings people can heed from this thread.
Hope he's ok op.

Just saw this... Hope your ds is starting to do better today.

Take care of yourself too, it's very easy to forget to eat and sleep when your child is in hospital bit it's so important that you stay well too {hugs}

HugoDarling Thu 03-Jan-13 20:30:00

Sending love and good wishes. Everyone is thinking of you.

beatofthedrum Thu 03-Jan-13 20:43:11

Thinking of you OP

FadBook Thu 03-Jan-13 20:44:38

Thinking of you Clutching. Saying a prayer for you both

Rumours Thu 03-Jan-13 20:49:30

Really hope everything is ok xx

Onezerozero Thu 03-Jan-13 20:50:20

Thinking of your family. x

MoomieAndFreddie Thu 03-Jan-13 20:56:46

oh god OP i hope your little boy is ok

thinking of you and your familyx

5madthings Thu 03-Jan-13 20:58:12

Thinking of you xxx

Thinking of you and your little boy OP. Try and rest when you can. x

LegoAcupuncture Thu 03-Jan-13 21:05:11

Hope everything is ok, thinking of you and your little boy.

I've only just read this thread. Made my blood run cold. I had no idea chickenpox could do this!

Truly hoping your little boy is okay OP. xxx

Thoughts and prayers are with you and your family Clutching

Hi everyone, thank you so much for all your kind words and offers of help. I'm not in touch with my family and they would be worse than useless anyway but luckily we had 11 people over for Christmas lunch so have been able to call in the favour help with DDs.

Sorry for not updating earlier have to wait until I'm home plus I don't think it would have made sense before, it feels like I'm watching it on the tv, nothing seems to sink in. I've had to come home tonight to look after DDs but will be back in the morning.

DS is still sedated, he had a temperature spike over night but he's comfortable now. He's had some more scans and results back and they are confident it is the chicken pox that have caused all of this. All from three spots on his foot. I didn't see them when he was stripped off it was only at the hospital that one of the many doctors saw them. I feel so teary today, like its just sinking in, 3 bloody spots!, 3 spots mean the difference between him being well and him being in hospital. 3 little spots.

Doctors are happy with him, they want him nice and quiet until the swelling eases. They have said he will be with them for a while, no short cuts he just needs time. He's not the worse they have seen with this apparently babies can end up fitting because of it so although serious he's on the milder side.

Hospital has been very good, when his temperature went up they whisked him off to check the swelling and couldn't have been on it faster. Because his bed (he has a bed, still shocked he isn't in a cot, babies are suppose to be in a cot not still enough to lie in a bed with the sides up) is in a high dependency bit they have given me the parent room that goes with it and they were straight in last night to tell me he was worse but tonight I've not got that, so I'm paranoid the phones going to go.

Off to get something to eat, but thanks to everyone, I've read every post its been a great comfort that even though I've been a right plank not taking your advice straight away, you have all been so kind and thought of us. Thanks MNers, I can't explain how the support on here is keeping me going.

Clutching, I hope Mini-Clutching is hanging in there, as are you. I hope he is getting better, you are coping and that you all have lots of RL support.
I was thinking of you often today, whenever I saw a pocky child - many of them, but all of them not dangerously unwell.

For those of you who are wondering what to look out for, really what nannyof3 said: "Moral of this thread... If u cant wake ur baby... Its urgent ring 999 !!!!!!
It doesn't at the end of the day matter whether CP turns out to be the cause or another virus or Any Random Lurgy. Unrousable child = 999 ambulance. Get to hospital first, ask questions later. Same goes for adults, really, but they tend to not get that unwell then scarily quickly.

Clearly the GP's practice handled this very badly indeed, but rather than complaining about a specific receptionist (who, btw, have NO medical training whatsoever) I think major concerns about their policies and practices have to be asked. The receptionist v likely said only what she has been told to say. Which does not make it right, of course, but is a bigger issue than her 'incompetence'. We have very strict protocols in place for our reception staff to sound a klaxon (chestpain, loss of consciousness, significant trouble breathing etc) which stops all other normal procedures and either gets the on-call dr on the phone there and then or has HER call 999.

Doing a baby resus course can be a really good idea for anybody looking after young children - a scarey course, but also really reassuring to know what to look out for and how/when to act.
I never in a million years thought the Heimlich Manoeuver would work until I had occasion to use it and, my, it did! Blue child turned pink in a jiffy smile.

rubyslippers Thu 03-Jan-13 21:20:02

thank you for updating

it all does sound like it's sinking in now, so be kind to yourself and try to rest as much as you can and eat a little to keep your strength up

hospital care sounds terrific

Oh, Clutching, spectacular x-post with you!
Do eat and rest when you can. Sounds like he is doing as well as can be expected.

MummyPig24 Thu 03-Jan-13 21:21:37

So glad things are looking better for him. Fingers crossed the situation will continue to improve.

incogneetow Thu 03-Jan-13 21:24:12

Thanks for the update: so pleased he's in the right place to get the treatment he needs. Hope you manage to relax and get a good night's sleep, to renew your energy.

KateUnrulyBush Thu 03-Jan-13 21:25:39

It sounds as though he is in good hands. Take good care of yourself, will keep you in my thoughts x

LegoAcupuncture Thu 03-Jan-13 21:25:58

Glad the doctors are on top of it and he is settled. Hope he recovers as well as they are expecting.

I am really pleased to see your update smile it sounds like he is getting terrific care.
Don't beat yourself up about not listening to mners straight away because when you look at the timescale, actually you did react really quickly to what people are telling you. It's hard, because instinct does tell you to let children sleep if they need it and I think that instinct kind of prevents you from trying really hard to wake them and until you've tried hard Id have thought it would still seem like needed sleep rather than unrousable.

It must be scary to be at home, but if you can eat and get some rest you will be in so much of a better position to look after him when they bring him off sedation.


BluelightsAndSirens Thu 03-Jan-13 21:27:40

I've been checking in my breaks at work all day today, thank you for taking the time to update us and I'm so pleased to hear he is calm and comfortable although I'm sure you would prefer him climbing all over that bed and needing the restraints of a cot!

I'm pleased you have help around and it sounds like it will be a slow process so please be kind to yourself, remember to eat and drink, take every offer of food being made and help with childcare there will be plenty of times over the years to pay your friends back for helping when you truly need it.

Have a massive viral {hug} I know we don't do these type of things but I feel you need it

Thankyou for updating, your still be in my thoughts. So glad u have RL support.

RubyrooUK Thu 03-Jan-13 21:31:14

So happy things are going well for your little DS, Clutching.

Don't beat yourself up about not noticing the chicken pox though - it sounds like he has just been very unlucky in his reaction. It is just so shocking how ill small children can get so quickly with so little warning.

Hope he will soon be home. Thanks for the update - I had been checking all day just to make sure. X

LadyBeagleEyes Thu 03-Jan-13 21:32:00

I'm glad things are looking up a bit Op.
I wish I could give you practical help but I'm sure I'm nowhere near you, as I'm in the Highlands.
There may be others on here that can if you say where you are.

mama2moo Thu 03-Jan-13 21:32:12

The doctors and nurses sound fab. At least you know he is being well looked after. Isnt it weird that chicken pox can be so serious for some children. I never knew it could be this nasty sad

Look after yourself. Fingers crossed he is back home soon xx

Sugarice Thu 03-Jan-13 21:33:11

Thinking of you and mini Clutching.

AuntieMaggie Thu 03-Jan-13 21:33:26

Thinking of you Clutching.

Sirzy Thu 03-Jan-13 21:34:13

Glad things are doing ok. I know its hard but do make sure you get some sleep and make time to eat and shower.

McPhee Thu 03-Jan-13 21:35:45

Eat, drink and rest if/when you can

Thinking of you

chocolateistheenemy Thu 03-Jan-13 21:35:46

Been hoping to hear from you all day with better news. It does sound as though they have things under control thank goodness... how frightening for you. Let's hope it's a peaceful night for DS and you manage some rest. x

Hope all is okay for you all and your DS healing well {hugs} xxx (sod the MN no hugs and kisses rule)

Hello, so pleased things are looking more positive. Keep going. Big hug x

MrsLyman Thu 03-Jan-13 21:36:43

I read this yesterday and had nothing to add to the excellent advice you'd already been given. Sounds like your DS is in excellent hands. I have my fingers crossed for his speedy & full recovery.

BloominMarvellous Thu 03-Jan-13 21:39:28

I've never been so relieved to see a green post come up when checking a thread!

I am so glad you and ds are being taken care of now. The nurses sound amazing!!

Thank you for taking the time to update.

lisad123everybodydancenow Thu 03-Jan-13 21:41:16

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

falconhoof Thu 03-Jan-13 21:42:31

I've watched this thread and have been keeping everything crossed for you. I do so pray that your wee oyster is home in your arms very soon.

Thinking of you x

Am so relieved to read your post OP! Been checking in all day. Here's a to a steady recovery and lots of cuddles with your little man when he is better.

5madthings Thu 03-Jan-13 21:44:37

Glad he is comfortable, hope you have all the help you need, shout out if anyone can help tho sure there will be a mnetter who will help if they can.

Badvoc Thu 03-Jan-13 21:44:57

Still thinking of you both x

Loshad Thu 03-Jan-13 21:46:06

Clutching, so pleased your little one is no worse, and hopefully and bit better. Hope you have a better night tonight in the hospital

pepperrabbit Thu 03-Jan-13 21:47:51

Another one been checking in all day.
I'm glad he seems comfortable and they are happy with his progress.
Take care of yourself.

shufflebum Thu 03-Jan-13 21:50:25

Big sigh of relief here too! Get well soon mini Clutching.

PinotGrigioandaMincePie Thu 03-Jan-13 21:51:47

Hope Mini Clutching is on the mend. Thoughts are with you.

LegArmpits Thu 03-Jan-13 21:57:30

Thinking of you. X

BeaWheesht Thu 03-Jan-13 21:58:44

Glad to read an update.

Wishing you some rest and a peaceful night and your ds a good recovery.

tunnocksteacake Thu 03-Jan-13 22:03:20

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

beautifulgirls Thu 03-Jan-13 22:04:16

Great to hear he is doing ok considering. Hopefully he will be on the mend quickly. Don't feel bad - as a parent we don't expect serious problems like this to happen to our children. You read about it and assume it will be someone else. My daughter ended up in intensive care 18 months ago and even as she was being transferred I still sat there thinking it couldn't really be happening to us and maybe it was an over reaction because this sort of thing happens to other people, not us. She made it thank goodness but she had a hell of a fight. The main thing is he is in the right place and getting the right care now and seems stable. Nothing you could have done would have changed the way things are now so there is nothing to blame yourself for.

Stixswhichtwizzle Thu 03-Jan-13 22:06:52

Thanks for update clutching. This thread has played on my mind, I never knew this could be a side effect of chicken pox. I'm glad he's receiving specialist care and hope he comes round soon.

DollySisterMadeNoResolutions Thu 03-Jan-13 22:09:55

Glad your ds is stable and getting good care. Thinking of you all.

ZebraInHiding Thu 03-Jan-13 22:16:11

Thanks for the update. Thinking of you.

LucyLego Thu 03-Jan-13 22:18:13

So glad to hear he's doing well. Try and get some rest xxx

PenguinBear Thu 03-Jan-13 22:23:36

Really pleased to hear he's doing well, get some rest tonight op, hope DS feels better tomorrow.

I've been thinking about you and MiniClutching all day and am so glad to log in now and find a positive update. Don't feel 'like a plank' OP; we all benefit from a second opinion now and again! The mere fact you started a thread shows you were already concerned. I hope you get some rest tonight and that his recovery is speedy.

maxmillie Thu 03-Jan-13 22:25:00

phew! Glad he is being well looked after, sounds like he just needs time to recover from the virus. Can't believe a "mild" case of chicken pox can do that!

DontYouJingleMyChristingle Thu 03-Jan-13 22:29:58

Glad to hear they are taking good care of him, will be praying for his swift recovery.

SleepyLittleSunshineGirl Thu 03-Jan-13 22:31:13

Thank goodness he's doing well. I've been lurking all day, waiting for an update. Hope the wee one makes a speedy recovery Clutching

tempnameswap Thu 03-Jan-13 22:41:26

Also checking in and glad to see that he is getting good care.

Remember you did the right thing OP despite having had awful advice from the GP surgery - it is so hard as parents to override that kind of advice to wait. There are so many difficult decisions to make, are we being paranoid and over-protective or is this the moment when you need to make more fuss? And not one of us operates with the benefit of hindsight. So please don't feel guilty about waiting - you got him to hospital and they have got him treatment.

Wishing you both a restful and healing night.

thegreylady Thu 03-Jan-13 22:48:57

Thank you for update Clutching I hope tomorrow will bring better news again. Thank God you called that ambulance.

EllenJaneisstillnotmyname Thu 03-Jan-13 22:52:47

Thank you for taking time to update us. smile It can't have been high on your list of priorities. So glad he's making progress and his temperature is behaving itself better today. (((Hugs)))

drcrab Thu 03-Jan-13 22:54:30

I'm so glad to hear that he's going to be better and that the drs at the hospital are on top of things.

Just wanted to add that cp is really quite scary - at least what it can do to children. My DS who is 4.11 now developed complications from cp which long story short led us to 6 weeks of a recurring fever and joint pain, a 30% loss of weight (at age 4.5!), 2 week stay at gosh and now weekly drugs that hopefully will bring him into remission from an autoimmune disease. So... Cp is really not the 'party' you want to be invited to!!!

DoubleLifeIsALifeHalved Thu 03-Jan-13 23:07:50

I'm glad you are ok op, and your little one stable and outlook positive. You must be absolutely shattered and just bone tired & shocked. Look after yourself as well as everyone else yes?

SecretNutellaFix Thu 03-Jan-13 23:11:37

Hoping he has turned the corner for you , Clutching and well on the way to recovery.

AfternoonsandCoffeespoons Thu 03-Jan-13 23:12:39

Clutching So glad your DS is on the mend. Thinking of you both. xxx

Just seen this

Want to add all best wishes for a quick recovery.

Take care of yourself too x

ShhBoom Fri 04-Jan-13 00:02:29

Another one here very relieved to read the update, I have also been thinking about you today.

I had no idea that chicken pox could be so serious, how awful

I hope your DS has a good night & that you can get some rest too. Take care x

HeadfirstForAMistletoeKiss Fri 04-Jan-13 00:22:46

I'm glad he's more comfortable. I'm thinking of you both x

ILikeWhisperingToo Fri 04-Jan-13 00:40:07

Glad the doctors are looking after you all. Take care, thinking of you.

bonnieslilsister Fri 04-Jan-13 00:41:17

Thinking of you and mini clutching and hoping his good health returns very soon x

thank you for updating us. we have all been worried and thinking of you all. glad to hear he is in good hands and there's a positive outlook. ill keep you all in my thoughts still. hugs xx

ChippingInLovesChristmasLights Fri 04-Jan-13 00:47:28

Chicken Pox when they are 'inverted' are very serious. I don't want to bang on about it when this little boy is in hospital but you need to be extra careful if your DC have been immunised against CP <which isn't terribly common in the UK>. The spots you can't see are worse than the ones you can see sad

Sending lots of love, strength & hugs to you all

ProPerformer Fri 04-Jan-13 01:36:40

Glad you are at the hospital and DS is doing ok.
Sending very un-MN {{hugs}}

FlatCapAndAWhippet Fri 04-Jan-13 01:44:11

Thinking of you and your little fella Clutching. So glad he's got the care he needs. How flippin frightening for you, take care. x

giraffesCantGoFirstFooting Fri 04-Jan-13 01:47:43

Hope all OK

Morning clutching hoping miniclutching improves today, how are you doing? Remember to look after yourself also.

Birnamwood Fri 04-Jan-13 08:15:31

Hope things are improving op. thinking of you.

Whereabouts are you? Maybe there are some lovely mners around that could help? Even if its just bringing you some homemade food

smicha Fri 04-Jan-13 08:20:32

I'm another one who has been watching this thread and am pleased to hear mini clutching is getting such good care. I never knew CP could do this. I hope he improves further today.

I also want to reiterate that clutching should in no way feel like a plank! I would have been exactly the same if the GP surgery had told me to wait, just so glad you started the thread!

DoctorAnge Fri 04-Jan-13 08:30:07

Thinking of you and praying for a quick recovery.

Morning Clutching, have been thinking of your DS. I hope he is improving.

Four4me Fri 04-Jan-13 09:29:01

So glad he is stable and in good hands, hope you got some sleep and that your dd's are ok too.


FlojoHoHoHo Fri 04-Jan-13 10:53:10

Morning clutching, I'm so glad DS is ok and hope you have had a good sleep and some quality time with DDs.

insancerre Fri 04-Jan-13 11:02:55

thank you so much for the update
hope he is better this morning
This is why I love mumsnet

Just seen thisthread after it was mentioned elsewhere. I hope your son is recovered soon.

ChestyNut Fri 04-Jan-13 11:16:07

Have been following miniclutchings progress.

Sending healing thought his way.

Take care of yourself too, eat,drink and rest when you can


cocoachannel Fri 04-Jan-13 12:21:52

So glad he is doing better. Take care thanks

Hi, hope your little boy is recovering x ((hugs))

Doyouthinktheysaurus Fri 04-Jan-13 12:31:46

Glad too hear your DS is doing okay.

BartletForTeamGB Fri 04-Jan-13 13:10:01

Hope you have managed to get some rest overnight and that your DS is recovering.

5madthings Fri 04-Jan-13 13:13:16

Hope D's had a good night and you all got some rest, thinking of you allxx

ipswichwitch Fri 04-Jan-13 13:27:20

hope your little one is getting better and better. am keeping fingers crossed he's home soon x

All best wishes again and hoping little clutching is showing positive signs of improvement today. Take care of yourself too, try to eat and drink something and use any and all favours you can! I'm sure people around will be more than willing to help when they know the little one is in hospital.

extracrunchy Fri 04-Jan-13 14:25:31

Oh clutching so glad to hear he is stable and being looked after. Poor little man - and poor you! Such a scary thing to happen. I had no idea chicken pox could be so serious.
Hope you're getting enough rest and some time to look after yourself.
Thinking of you xx

ILikeWhisperingToo Fri 04-Jan-13 17:08:26

Thinking of you this evening, OP - sending best wishes x

Wallace Fri 04-Jan-13 17:38:08

Get well soon, little one xx

Hope all is well OP. Thinking of you. X

Sending best wishes to you clutching and mini-clutching.

FriggFRIGGisPoorlySick Fri 04-Jan-13 17:48:24

Sending love and light to clutching and miniclutching

Don't forget to look after yourself too.x

MonetsGardens Fri 04-Jan-13 17:54:02

So glad that things seem to be improving - my DD was seriously ill with complications caused by CP in her lungs. She had no underlying health problems - now fully recovered but an awful time for everyone.

Please folks - don't be blase about CP.

OP hope you are home with your little boy really soon.

Frikadellen Fri 04-Jan-13 19:17:09

Checked in to see if there was an update pleased to see he is getting such good care..

Pinot Fri 04-Jan-13 19:26:50

How is he?

Thinkingof4 Fri 04-Jan-13 21:34:59

So glad to hear that ds is getting better, hope things remain positive over next few days

SlinkyB Fri 04-Jan-13 22:32:32

Another one checking in and thinking of you and your little boy, hope you're okay and he's doing well in hospital x

Sending you best wishes and strength, Clutching. I hope today was a good day.

QOD Fri 04-Jan-13 22:46:23

I'm so happy that he seems to be ok, chicken pox is not to be sniffed at!
Only today I had to yet again mention my nieces terrible response to c p when someone wanted to take their pox'd child out.

Poor wee man!
Waiting for updates when you can.

Have your other DC had the pox?

OscarPistoriusBitontheside Fri 04-Jan-13 22:51:02

Just popping in to see how mini clutching is.

People need to be more aware of how horrid cp can be. Some people are utterly blasé about it/ think it's not their problem to keep away from well people.

Smellslikecatspee Fri 04-Jan-13 22:52:07

Have lit another candle for you.

BubblesAndBeans Fri 04-Jan-13 23:09:02

clutching so very pleased to hear your ds is getting better and that he is receiving such good care. Wishing you the very best.

Stixswhichtwizzle Fri 04-Jan-13 23:10:31

Just popping in to see how things are going. As someone already posted, I hope you're remembering to look after yourself too. Thinking of you both.

Oh gosh, just seen this thread, what a shock for you OP.

How is he today? Thinking of you.

Hi everyone once again thanks for all your kind comments.

DS swelling hasn't reduced yet and still very slightly increasing so they have upped his steroids and that should help. He's still sedated, earliest they will look at stopping that is Monday so just need to keep on until then. Scan tomorrow to check again so fingers crossed. In himself he seems comfortable and relaxed. Nurses are happy with him and say he's not caused them any problems, which is typical DS, getting the girls on side.

I'm absolutely shattered, feeling so drained today, no energy to really talk to anyone properly. Think I've spend most of the day crying. A put a salt sachet in my tea today and that sent me into sobbing, just can't seem to get a grip.

DDs luckily had CP before Christmas so they are fine, going to try and get them out to the park tomorrow to give them a bit of normality. They have been spoilt rotten the last few days, all kinds of sweets and chocolates, going to pizza hut. So they are ok, obviously they know something's up with their little brother, but at 3 and 5 chocolate solves everything.

Not really slept since it happened so off for a bath and hopefully some sleep. Thanks everyone for your kind thoughts, prayers and support. You all know what's going on so its far easier to update you guys than have to explain everything to another person in RL. Reading your comments has helped comfort me even though I haven't replied.

5madthings Sat 05-Jan-13 01:00:03

I am.glad he is comfortable and sending 'swelling go.down vibes'. Fingers crossed the steroids do.the trick.

Much love and strength to you all xx

HildaOgden Sat 05-Jan-13 01:03:08

You poor thing,you must be wrecked!The hot bath and some sleep will do you the world of good,give you the strength to carry on.

The hospital seem to be on the ball with him,they don't seem overly concerned so take some comfort from that.He's in the very best place to get this sorted.

Hopefully before long he will shake this off and be back home (and being spoiled rotten!!!)

Mind yourself,Clutching,a hospital bedside is the most draining place in the world.

Huge hugs and support to you,hope this all passes soon x

cafecito Sat 05-Jan-13 01:04:09

Sedtion and intubation is the best current method used for neuroprotection and it sounds like they are keeping a very close eye on him which is good. I can only echo others and say we're all here for you, and are all thinking of you. You will feel like a zombie for a good wihle, it's an utter absolute devastating shock and an ongoing massive concern, don't expect to feel normal. Try and get some time away from the hospital if you can, just to clear your head. Taking the girls to the park would be really good even if just for some fresh air. Remember, you need your rest too or you won't be any use to DS- they will call you if there's any problem, so rest while you can. Once he's a bit better he will need you all the time so you need to fully charge up your batteries. x

gussiegrips Sat 05-Jan-13 01:08:32

Buggrit, clutching, I do get the feeling of gratitude of nothavingtoexplain.

We are thinking of you.

He'll be ok, with steroids fighting a viral induced swelling, there is not really any other outcome.

As a confirmed flirt, he'll go far.

get some rest, and a good, let loose cry. Works for me.

And, then, hang in there, with all the other mothers in the same but often worse boat that you are in.

Don't tell anyone, but I'm sending you a glass, in fact, a bottle of pinot grigio a <hug>

FadBook Sat 05-Jan-13 01:13:14

Ditto Hilda and cafe

As for your other dc, they'll be fine. A bit of pizza & chocolate isn't going to harm them. Can someone in RL take them to the park for an hour while you catch a breath on your own? If you're in North Staffs or south Cheshire, I'll take your dc's to the park with my little one? Serious offer.

We're all here for you Clutching. Get some sleep. Your ds is in the right place with the right people around him. Night night.

BluelightsAndSirens Sat 05-Jan-13 01:15:04

Great news and glad we are sill helping x

BeaWheesht Sat 05-Jan-13 01:26:33

Hope steroids kick in soon.

Wishing you plenty of sleep , look after yourself as well As everyone else.

HeeBeeGeebies Sat 05-Jan-13 01:40:32

Oh your poor little boy, I hope he's all better soon. Take care if yourself, you must be exhausted x

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Stixswhichtwizzle Sat 05-Jan-13 02:08:03

Glad the hospital are l

Stixswhichtwizzle Sat 05-Jan-13 02:11:56

Glad the hospital are looking after him. Hopefully, the increased dose will help stop the swelling. As a confirmed flirt, he'll be trying to impress the nurses. Glad your DD are coping ok and I really hope you get your much needed sleep.

Tallgiraffe Sat 05-Jan-13 02:27:03

Glad to hear the hospital are happy with his progress. Please try and get some sleep, hard as it is, you need energy to cope with all this. Really hope you have some RL help for your other children. And let them live off pizza and chocolate for a few days, they won't come to any harm!

KateUnrulyBush Sat 05-Jan-13 04:25:38

Thinking of you Pearls, hope your ds is better very soon, that first cuddle after he wakes up will be amazing x

marcopront Sat 05-Jan-13 06:05:41

Could you ask a friend or relative to let people in real life know what is happening and direct all questions to them. They could then pass all messages on to you when you are ready.

SuiGeneris Sat 05-Jan-13 08:23:34

Wishing you all the best. I hope you had a rest overnight and that today brings good news.

OhThisIsJustGrape Sat 05-Jan-13 08:44:23

Just read while thread - so glad you called that ambulance. Children can go downhill so very fast, but on the flip side they can pick up very quickly too so fingers crossed he will turn a corner soon.

You will be very much in my thoughts today, hoping for a positive update later smile Look after yourself, I know that's so very hard to do but all your children need you as fit and well as possible to get them through this.

Are there any MN near you who could help with lifts etc? I'm in Norfolk if that's any use x

thegreylady Sat 05-Jan-13 08:45:06

Still thinking of you and thank you again for updating. I never realised chicken pox could be so dangerous. Remember to take care of yourself too.

Sugarice Sat 05-Jan-13 09:18:11

Still thinking of you and your family smile.

Do try to get some well earned sleep.

Sending best wishes and hugs to you all and hoping ds will be okay
Hope you had a good nights sleep

Bearandcub Sat 05-Jan-13 09:42:40

Wishing you all the best

Four4me Sat 05-Jan-13 10:06:09

Hope you managed to get some rest and that the increased dose of steroids get the swelling down. Enjoy the fresh air at the park with your dd's.

Continuing to think of you. X

Boo to swelling not having gone down yet and to your exhaustion.
He IS in the best and safest place, so please do prioritise yourself for a little while. Get sleep. And don't forget to eat and drink. Have a long bath. Accept each and every offer of help. Give people specific tasks: 'yes, please, could you take my laundry?'

Of course your DD will be fine - you are right, at that age, at any age, chocolate goes a long way to make life better. Have some yourself.

Isn't it stange and scary and inexplicable how most children including your DS's sisters have 'normal' CP, and some poor wee souls get so much iller from the same bug?

Sending you much love and strength again.

Lollybrolly Sat 05-Jan-13 10:17:12

Thanks for the update.

Hope you caught up on some much needed sleep last night.

Hope the swelling starts to reduce soon. Keeping everything crossed for you x

Hope you've managed to get some rest x

Thinkingof4 Sat 05-Jan-13 10:31:11

clutching thanks for updating again esp when you are so tired. I really hope you got some sleep last night, and try to get some fresh air maybe with the girls today

FourArms Sat 05-Jan-13 10:51:27

Thinking of you all.

Had a similar experience with DS1 being more sleepy than usual for a week. Three GP appts & 1 Consultant appt (for something unrelated) all said he was fine. In the Sunday my aunt said to take him to A&E (she's a nurse). We felt like we were massively overreacting. Turned out his oxygen saturation was terrible & he was severely dehydrated with a massive chest infection. Ended up being blue lighted to a Children's hospital. sad Very scary, but he's fine now.

Hoping that you DS shows some improvement today x

yfuwchhapus Sat 05-Jan-13 10:53:52

Thinking of you.

Seconding the offer to help if I am near, am in cambs.

My dd was in hospital last year and I know the bone draining fear and exhaustion you are feeling.
It does sound positive, especially as they are talking about Monday as a day for them to stop the steroids. We are all thinking of you and your family.

Find someone to go and hug, and here is a massive squeezy one from me


Feelingood Sat 05-Jan-13 11:19:24

Oh clutching .....I will be thinking of you and ds. Best wishes for a full recovery mini clutch.

Clutching thank you for the update. Thinking of you - hope you got some rest last night and everything.

ILikeWhisperingToo Sat 05-Jan-13 11:34:24

Thank you for update, sending more well wishes your way for the little one x

Nosleeptillgodknowswhen Sat 05-Jan-13 11:50:47

Thinking of you both and hoping you see some improvement soon.

I am in Cambridge if you are nearby and need any help.

fruityxmasAbuHamzamouse Sat 05-Jan-13 12:00:52

Thinking of you and sending best wishes for little clutch.xx

beatofthedrum Sat 05-Jan-13 12:24:22

Sending you love and get well wishes, can't imagine what you're going through. Hang in there and hope you have positive news to share with us soon xx

EllenJaneisstillnotmyname Sat 05-Jan-13 12:27:43

Hope the upped steroids work quickly. Still thinking of you and your little boy. I'm now craving chocolate. smile

Hanikam Sat 05-Jan-13 12:30:01

Go with OwlCatMouse.

Mother's instinct has kicked in for you, that's enough to know somethings not right. Alternatively, drive to A&E and if your little boy wakes up on route, just make sure they check him out anyway.

hugs to you! so worrying sad

cocoachannel Sat 05-Jan-13 13:33:19

Thank you for the update. I hope the steroids are working their magic.

Let the girls live off pizza and chocolate and don't give it a second thought!

Bunbaker Sat 05-Jan-13 13:41:53

Thinking of you and praying that your son responds to the medication soon.

snowflakehellokitty Sat 05-Jan-13 13:50:50

smile in my thoughts

chocolateistheenemy Sat 05-Jan-13 13:57:42

Hoping your little boy's swelling starts to go down very soon. Stay strong. That's what mums do best... x

brainonastick Sat 05-Jan-13 14:04:35

Oh clutching, I've been lurking since the start of this thread, and want to add my <hugs> and get well soon vibes as well. As does dh who keeps asking after your ds. You sound like you are doing so well given what you are having to deal with, hope you manage to get some sleep.

Kahlua4me Sat 05-Jan-13 14:06:01

Sending positive thoughts to you.

Try to rest when you can, although I know it is much easier said than done!
Our ds was in hospital last year for a week so I understand how scary it is. I took him to dr for eye infection as it was swollen and he seemed off colour.

They admitted him straight away as thought he had liver failure. Had a very awful week with him on drip and testing his sight every hour but he is fine now.

Be reassured that he is in best place in the world and all will be done for him.
Take support and help wherever it is offered and eats chocolate.

Blatherskite Sat 05-Jan-13 15:26:45

Oh Clutching! I hope you can get some rest. DD was in hospital just overnight a while ago with a rash and I was so, so tired. You must be shattered.

I hope your DS improves soon.

ChestyNut Sat 05-Jan-13 17:54:26

Sending more healing wishes for DS, chocolate for DDs and wine s
and a shoulder to sob on for you.

twofalls Sat 05-Jan-13 19:35:09

Sending more get well vibes to mini clutching.

LadyBeagleEyes Sat 05-Jan-13 19:41:45

I've been watching this thread from the beginning.
Lots of love to you and your dc.
I hope you don't feel pressurised to update, you must be shattered, though we do all want to know whenever you're ready.xx
Just concentrate on your dc at the moment, and try and rest.

AbigailAdams Sat 05-Jan-13 20:48:11

Oh Clutching I'm sending positive vibes too. I hope you get some good news soon.

Best wishes.

camaleon Sat 05-Jan-13 21:37:04

Another one watching and hoping for the best, including your results today. Best wishes

5madthings Sat 05-Jan-13 21:55:35

Checking in, thinking of you all and sending love and strength xx

Pozzled Sat 05-Jan-13 22:16:10

Sending positive vibes- I hope mini clutching is improving.

Sending you best wishes for a restful and restorative night for all of you.

Hope ds had a good night and is awake now. Let us know when you can

MammaTJ Sun 06-Jan-13 09:06:11

Hope the steroids are working their magic!!

heronsfly Sun 06-Jan-13 10:03:40

Positive vibes from me this morning too, steroids, sleep and time should start working magic soon, its amazing how quickly little ones can bounce back .

ILikeWhisperingToo Sun 06-Jan-13 10:10:37

Thoughts with you this morning; sending more strength and well wishes for improvement.

Feelingood Sun 06-Jan-13 10:11:45

Thinking of you all, sending get well wishes.x

thegreylady Sun 06-Jan-13 10:25:00

Still thinking of you all...

mama2moo Sun 06-Jan-13 14:17:47

How is he today? Are you ok?

MrsMelons Sun 06-Jan-13 16:06:26

Thinking of you, I hope the steroids are starting to work!!

thisthreadwilloutme Sun 06-Jan-13 17:17:45

Thinking of you all

ILikeWhisperingToo Sun 06-Jan-13 17:23:42

Really hope things are going ok OP; give a shout if there is anything you need help with that we could do - even just dropping some milk round or giving you a lift to the hospital or anything. I'm up north. x

snowflakehellokitty Sun 06-Jan-13 17:30:06

Hope all ok

thegreylady Sun 06-Jan-13 17:49:01

still watching and waiting x

Four4me Sun 06-Jan-13 19:06:53

Thinking of you all. Hope DS is improving. X

pepperrabbit Sun 06-Jan-13 19:11:06

Still thinking of you all, hope he is doing ok. x

5madthings Sun 06-Jan-13 19:29:36

Another one still thinking if you and hoping the steroids are doing the trick and that your little one is comfortable and improving xx

miniegg1980 Sun 06-Jan-13 20:21:32

Thinking of you too. Nothing new I can say or offer, but you are in my thoughts and prayers xxxx

bonnieslilsister Sun 06-Jan-13 21:48:01

Hoping he has begun to improve and you can relax a little thanks x

Level3at6months Sun 06-Jan-13 21:58:11

I keep thinking about you and Little Clutching and hoping he's on the mend.

tunnocksteacake Sun 06-Jan-13 22:16:49

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

motherofvikings Sun 06-Jan-13 22:37:43

Just wanted to add my positive vibes and hand holding. (have been watching)

Sounds like hospital have a good handle on things and the drugs should start working their magic soon. smile

Dd had terrible CP over the summer and was nearly admitted to hospital a few times. You're in my thoughts. smile

stinkymice Sun 06-Jan-13 22:40:08

can't read and run, sending positive thoughts your way. Really hope you get some good news soon xxx

beatofthedrum Sun 06-Jan-13 22:41:42

Thinking of you, hope your baby's responding to the treatment x

ginhag Sun 06-Jan-13 22:47:39

Thinking of you too. Hope all is improving. Am in the westcountreee if there is anything I can do to help.

Love and strength xx

SpottyBagOfTumble Sun 06-Jan-13 23:08:36

Thinking of you. Hope your ds is improving now and responds to the steroids.

Kracken Sun 06-Jan-13 23:11:14

Thinking of you and your family. I know I'm a complete random but am in West London if you need anything at all. Take care of yourself xx

MarmMummy Sun 06-Jan-13 23:19:53

Keeping you and your DS in my thoughts. You sound like such a lovely mummy smile

Hi guys, thanks once again for your suppor, and thoughts, really means so much, think I would be a complete mess without this thread. Thanks also for the offers of help, I'm ok at the moment, I've always struggled accepting help and neighbours looking after DDs is as much as I'm comfortable with at the moment but I will ask if needs be, so thank you so much, I'll shout if I'm stuck.

DS had his scan Saturday night and everything is looking good, he's turned the corner and the swelling is going down, not sure when they will wake him yet but the doctors are definitely smiling more and talk is generally better. He still has 'significant swelling' and isn't out the woods but we are definitely in the right direction.We did have a 'what if' chat prompted by me. But I actually feel better knowing what they would do next and they know my feelings.

One of DD2 doctors came up to see us, she has been quite straight talking (she's known me for years and actually was with us when DS was born) and told me I have until they reduce sedation to fall apart but once they start reducing I need to be strong. Which is what I needed.

They are planning a meeting with me tomorrow to discuss waking him, from what I can gather they will only wake him until groggy first, see how he copes and then wake him properly. I'm not sure if that's normal but I just expected them to wake him straight away.

Just trying to get myself together to cope with that. Hoping I sound a little less in pieces, really trying to pull myself together for him waking up.

QOD Sun 06-Jan-13 23:31:48

Thanks so much for updating us!!! Poor little man, and poor you!! Have a good boo tonight, you'll be great when he needs you to be calm.


ginhag Sun 06-Jan-13 23:32:27

Good to hear from you, thanks for the update smile

Glad things are looking positive...stay strong and we'll be here in whatever way we can xx

brainonastick Sun 06-Jan-13 23:35:05

Clutching, that's just great news, I'm so happy for you that your ds is getting the right side of better smile.

Even if you do fall apart when they wake your ds up, don't worry, it's only natural. It's perfectly ok for mums to have a cry (been there, at the hospital bedside, done that - being frowned at by the Nurses for showing some emotion after no sleep and maximum stress). You'll still be there for him, it's fine.

Keeping everything crossed for you both for tomorrow, and for a speedy recovery after that. x

5madthings Sun 06-Jan-13 23:38:45

That is good news that the swelling is going down. Its normal food them to not wake him up fully, he has been through a lot and rest will be a big part of his recovery.

Thank you for taking the time to update, I will be holding you all in my thoughts and hope the next few days go smoothly and D's continues to recover xxx

CatPussRoastingOnAnOpenFire Sun 06-Jan-13 23:41:00

Excellent news! smile

LizzieVereker Sun 06-Jan-13 23:45:38

Thinking of you and Little Clutching, stay strong, you are an amazing Mum. X

Stixswhichtwizzle Sun 06-Jan-13 23:47:18

Thank you for the update clutching. So glad things are moving in the right direction and your DS is beginning to get better.( (hugs) )

LadyBeagleEyes Sun 06-Jan-13 23:48:23

You poor thing, you must be exhausted.
Good luck for tomorrow.

SpottyBagOfTumble Sun 06-Jan-13 23:52:10

Good luck for tomorrow.

Birnamwood Mon 07-Jan-13 00:04:28

Good luck for tomorrow clutching, will be thinking of you

hellymelly Mon 07-Jan-13 00:06:02

Wishing you the best of luck for tomorrow, your poor little boy.

omri Mon 07-Jan-13 00:08:41

I have been following this post every day since your original post, clutching. Thinking of your ds every day and really wish him well very soon. Hope you are coping. It must be so hard but know that all of us here are willing your Little darling well ASAP and we are here for you for any words of support and virtual hugs you need!! Let us know how he is getting on (and you too)

ILikeWhisperingToo Mon 07-Jan-13 00:10:27

Oh goodness, what a time of it you are having. I am glad for you that the doctors seem good- very, very best wishes for the little man and for you all; especially over the next few days of reducing sedation. Keep up your food and drink and rest as much as you can too clutching xx

marthamydear Mon 07-Jan-13 00:14:58

Will be thinking of you and your little boy tomorrow - Good luck x

MammaTJ Mon 07-Jan-13 00:15:54

Aw, thank goodness for a more positive update!

The doctor sounds fabulous.

He is in good hands. Good luck with the continued recovery.

lisalisa Mon 07-Jan-13 00:23:00

Clutching - wishing your little ds better xxx Sending as much good vibes as I can for an easy wake up from sedation tomorrow. I am in north west london and if I can get you anything at all please shout - take uot food, magazines, laundry, shopping.

Sarahplane Mon 07-Jan-13 00:25:29

I'm thinking of you and little clutching. Glad to hear he's getting better. I know you'll be the last of your worries but try to take care of yourself and get as much rest as you can right now so you're not too exhausted when your ds wakes up . hugs

VestaCurry Mon 07-Jan-13 00:34:48

Just seen this thread, hoping your little boy continues to improve. Sounds like the hospital are looking after him really well. Take care of yourself, stay hydrated and keep snacks in bag.

Feelingood Mon 07-Jan-13 01:23:43

Oh that's all sounding good, I've been thinking about you lots. I said to DH (who thinks MN is the devil) that women hasn't been back about her boy and he had been asking earlier. I'm so pleased, fingers crossed for next bit.

That dds doc sounds like a good one, you do to be told straight so you can prepare sometimes. Sending hope and health x

ChippingInLovesChristmasLights Mon 07-Jan-13 01:56:58

That's all very positive smile You are in my thoughts x

MmeLindor Mon 07-Jan-13 02:12:17

Hope he continues to improve, Clutching.

notnagging Mon 07-Jan-13 03:39:19

Thinking of you & your ds clutching

heronsfly Mon 07-Jan-13 05:29:54

Really pleased to read the update this morning,I hope things improve even more today x

motherofvikings Mon 07-Jan-13 07:19:01

Great news! smile
Glad things are moving in the right direction! Hope you managed to get a little bit of sleep - poorly DC are exhausting normally- never mind what you've been through!

Hope he keeps improving today! smile

DollySisterMadeNoResolutions Mon 07-Jan-13 07:28:22

It all sounds a bit more positive clutching. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that today brings further improvement and a quick recovery follows. Thinking of you x

Kracken Mon 07-Jan-13 07:34:52

Oh, shedding tears waiting for my train to work! So glad he's doing better. I can't imagine what you must be feeling but I'm sure you will find the strength to support your little boy when he starts to wake up a bit. Mums always seem to be able to pull it out of the bag, even in the hardest circumstances, it must be a super-power granted at the point of childbirth! Hope today goes well and take care xx

chocolateistheenemy Mon 07-Jan-13 08:01:28

Be strong Clutching... you will be, you've been through so much already. I think you're amazing.

Hope today goes well for you both

Turquoiseblue Mon 07-Jan-13 08:22:24

Just reading this now. Thinning if you and your little boy today. Hope today goes ok xx

EllenJaneisstillnotmyname Mon 07-Jan-13 08:25:38

Glad things are heading in the right direction. Hope your meeting goes well tomorrow. Sending positive thoughts. X

5madthings Mon 07-Jan-13 08:55:45

Thinking of you today clutching and sending love and strength all xxx

thegreylady Mon 07-Jan-13 08:58:15

Thinking of you today clutching and hoping for good news later so far so good eh.

Sending my thoughts and prayers xxxx

Oh thank goodness for new of progress, I am so very glad to hear it smile.

You 'fall apart' whenever you need to - seems a bit daft to suggest you could control that. IME a lot of people lose the plat a bit when the worst is over; nothing wrong with that.

It is quite normal to reduce sedation gradually to see how somebody responds, so don't worry about that. Again IME children tend to be v resilient and accepting of what is happening/being done to them, particularly when they have the loving support of their family.

Here's hoping for ongoing progress.

Wandawingsthe2nd Mon 07-Jan-13 09:11:38

Thinking of you all.

Ninetyninepercent Mon 07-Jan-13 09:59:13

Thinking of you and your little Ds. Sending extra super strength healing thoughts to him (and you!!) today.

Curtsey Mon 07-Jan-13 10:02:07

Thinking of you.

OscarPistoriusBitontheside Mon 07-Jan-13 10:03:18

That's great news that the swelling is reducing.

We're here for you, virtual friends and support can be a great help if you aren't comfortable accepting RL help.

pepperrabbit Mon 07-Jan-13 10:10:06

So pleased to hear he's turned the corner.
Take care of yourself - and do whatever you have to do to get through, perhaps trying to think about how you are coping probably doesn't help (and is normally when I fall apart in a trauma!).

DozyDuck Mon 07-Jan-13 10:28:42

Thinking of you, hope he gets better

magimedi88 Mon 07-Jan-13 10:32:12

Thinking of you & hope all goes well today. x

Nosleeptillgodknowswhen Mon 07-Jan-13 10:36:17

Glad to hear some better news. Have a good cry now while you can and get some of it out.

Sounds stupid, but i really regret not having a photo of DD2 when she was ill, just so i could process it all after the event better. Might be worth considering.

Glad he seems to be on the mend clutching thinking of you all

flowersfortea Mon 07-Jan-13 10:57:32

Dear OP, just read through the whole thread and I just wanted to send my heart felt best wishes to you and your baby. It sounds like such a nightmare but you have done the best thing by calling that ambulance and now you are there to support him every step of the way through his recovery.

Thinkingof4 Mon 07-Jan-13 13:41:17

So glad to hear there has been some improvement clutching
You are doing an amazing job keeping things together but don't be afraid to let it all out at some point. I can only imagine how stressful this must be for you all

Sending you all my strength to help you through clutching.

Hey Clutching, just checking in with you. So pleased there has been an improvement with DS. You must be feeling drained, just can't imagine.

Wanted to say that i hope you are looking after yourself, but I know at times like this it's so hard.

Sending best wishes & love to all of you.

ILikeWhisperingToo Mon 07-Jan-13 17:02:09

Checking in here too; hope today has been OK x

happydotcom Mon 07-Jan-13 18:52:13

Checking in too. Stay strong Clutching and mini clutching xxxxxxxxx

Level3at6months Mon 07-Jan-13 18:56:07

So pleased to hear he's improving. Lovely news!

With regard to him waking up, expect him to be groggy for a good while, even when they fully wake him up. When our DS had his CP complications, it really knocked him for six and things I hadn't expected (like sitting up and even just moving his arms) were painful and difficult for him for a couple of weeks at least. I think that shocked me more than the time in ICU.

Look after yourself. I hope he's out of there really soon. X

toffeelolly Mon 07-Jan-13 19:27:53

still thinking of you and your wee man. xx

RubyrooUK Mon 07-Jan-13 19:50:35

Hope he continues to improve Clutching. Still thinking of you. X

Hello that is good news firmly going in the right direction!
Am so pleased for you, you much be shattered beyond belief.

Big hug

LizzieVereker Mon 07-Jan-13 20:52:45

Still thinking of your and your little chap xxx

"what if" chats are very good to have - mums like to plan.

And, as for "fall apart now, but not then" I see what they are saying, but if you need to messily emote, then do!

Try to take care of yourself, sounds like this is more a marathon than a sprint.

Thinking of you and yours,
hang in there

Very quick up date, scan just done, doctors happy. Will be reducing sedation first thing in the morning!! Got to go but just wanted to let you all know.

Blatherskite Mon 07-Jan-13 22:12:22

That's good news. Hope it all goes well