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Calpol avoidance - but when to give?

(60 Posts)
hillbilly Fri 22-Nov-13 16:18:16

I'm quite anti medicating for the sake of it, and figure that a high temp is the body trying to heal itself (this is on the doctor's advice btw). DD ((8) has had a temp of 39.6 for the last 2 hours. Should I give her paracetamol or wait a while?

personally I'd give it but I dont particularly avoid medicating in the first place. My Dc's are rarely ill anyway.

paperlantern Fri 22-Nov-13 17:08:54

yes always always give for a temperature.

having had two that fitted with temperatures I am always a bit hmm at people who think paracetamol is more risky than a temperature

hillbilly Fri 22-Nov-13 20:36:18

I don't think paracetamol is risky, I just don't think that always bringing down a high temperature is the right thing to do. During daytime whn I can monitor it and try to bring it down in other ways is different to nighttime when things can escalate more unexpectedly. I gave her calpol an hour after I posted and temp is coming down slowly.she's falling asleep on the sofa now and I will probably give her ibruprofen before she goes to bed.

meditrina Fri 22-Nov-13 20:39:49

No, I wouldn't give it for just a temperature.

(though obviously if you have a DC with febrile convulsions, you follow individual medical advice).

If the child is hot but comfortable, I'd leave them to it. I would give a painkiller if they were complaining of pain.

witchremix Fri 22-Nov-13 20:50:52

Both my children run high temps when ill. I only give meds if they are in pain or if the temp is over 39.5 and they are really lethargic. I think generally the temp is the body's way of fighting infection and it has been proven children not given anti- pyrexics have shorter course of illness.

nextphase Fri 22-Nov-13 20:50:52

I give calpol when they are in pain. I'm with you on temperatures are they best way for the body to fight infection, if the child (or adult) is reasonably comfortable. If its making them uncomfortable, or unable to sleep, I medicate.
fwiw, we don't have a thermometer in the house.

Pobblewhohasnotoes Fri 22-Nov-13 21:20:25

A febrile convulsion will happen regardless of giving calpol.

It's to do with the speed the temperature goes up rather than how high it is.

Is she miserable? If so yes give it. If not just keep her stripped off, keep up the fluids and keep an eye on it. You're right in that the recommendation now is to leave a temperature to do its job unless in pain or uncomfortable.

If calpol isn't touching it then try ibuprofen. If neither touch it then start alternating.

Pobblewhohasnotoes Fri 22-Nov-13 21:21:02

Oh, if she's 8 she's a bit too old to be having a febrile convulsion anyway.

hillbilly Fri 22-Nov-13 21:25:38

Thanks all. I gave her calpol just now and she's in my bed so I can keep an eye on her during the night. We're supposed to be seeing Horrible Histories at the theatre tomorrow so I hope she feels better. More importantly I should have been out at a friend's birthday party tonight and missed out :-(

paperlantern Fri 22-Nov-13 21:51:34

yes I would agree tis a bit old missed that in the original post.

regardless have never met a doctor that doesn't say give paracetamol for a fever.

I fever is damn uncomfortable.

alwaysneedaholiday Fri 22-Nov-13 21:55:19

Every doctor I know tells me to get the fever down asap. I am not keen on medicating, but I certainly would for a temperature over 39 (actually 38 is the magic number in my house!)

Hope she's feeling better soon, and you make it to the theatre smile

paperlantern Fri 22-Nov-13 21:55:27

pobble - of course paracetamol does not stop a febrile convulsion. hmm

what is does do it slow or bring down a temperature. get it in quick enough you can reduce the chance.

bumbleymummy Fri 22-Nov-13 22:06:24

Paper, convulsions occur due to a sharp ruse in temperature - usually before the parent even notices that the child is ill.

paperlantern Fri 22-Nov-13 22:07:37

I am very aware of what causes a "febrile" convulsion. ds still gets different forms at 6

hillbilly Fri 22-Nov-13 22:08:47

I'm not a hair shirt, raffia eating, free love hippie, although some may say otherwise (no offence to any genuine hair shirt, raffia eating, free love hippies) and I understand about febrile convulsions. Definitely more relaxed about medicating as DCs get older. I just think there is something to be said for letting the body try to right itself naturally. Thanks everyone.

paperlantern Fri 22-Nov-13 22:09:36

that's a bit like telling me how to suck eggs! angry hmm grin

mousmous Fri 22-Nov-13 22:11:31

I would give before bedtime.
I'm with you with not giving it willynilly, but I also think a good night's rest help the body heal.

hillbilly Fri 22-Nov-13 22:13:49

paperlantern - my nephew had a fit years ago which tonight my sister reminded me of. I'm grateful for everyone's contributions this evening and happy to err on the side of caution.

paperlantern Fri 22-Nov-13 22:22:35

yes febrile convulsions are caused by changes in body temperature. so the point is you need to stabilise it. paracetamol does that. it brings it back down and stops it spiking any further.

occasionally it is possible to anticipate a temperature or stop it in the early stages. paracetamol has prevented at least one convulsion in the case of ds. I know because ds' jaw started to go the paracetamol took effect and it stopped. ibuprofen is more effective.

often the very uncomfortable lethargy associated with illness comes as a result of a temperature. for me I'd want to alleviate that

paperlantern Fri 22-Nov-13 22:27:02

I think if you've ever seen your child have a fit it does impact on you

I probably was much more of your opinion prior to ds.

Now I have to say I think paracetamol and ibuprofen are (behind antibiotics) one of the simplest and fantastic medicinal advancements

paperlantern Fri 22-Nov-13 22:27:33

grin

LarkinSky Fri 22-Nov-13 22:30:50

Honest question, what's wrong with giving Calpol/paracetamol? Are there any studies showing I'll effects on children?

I often give the DC a dose for anything from teething to a temp or being sick, a virus, achy, the baby being off Colour and not sleeping. They (age 1 and 4) probably have it at least 5ml ad hoc twice a month, or more and more regularly for an actual illness. Overuse of antibiotics is a real issue I quite agree but good old Calpol?

paperlantern Fri 22-Nov-13 22:31:09

that sounded a bit cornyblush

MrsDeVere Fri 22-Nov-13 22:41:04

I think there are genuinely some people out there who do not understand that calpol is paracetamol. They think it is some sort of magic tonic to be given if children look a bit 'off'.

But I do not think there is much to be gained from witholding it if your child has a temp (even if it is not sky high).

I used to be quite reluctant to give medication but after having a child with cancer and pumping them full of neurotoxins and hundreds of tablets a week I can't be arsed to worry about a bit of paracetamol.
I find it settles grizzly children and I find managing fevers stressful so its better all round if they just have a quick dose of the pink stuff.

Not trying to make a point. Just sharing smile

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