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Alternative treatments for urinary infection, 6 year old girl?

(62 Posts)
Snowme Thu 02-May-13 09:44:24

My daughter aged 6 has a urinary infection and has been prescribed antibiotics.
I'm not an advocate of their use.
She has no other symptoms apart from pain whilst urinating every few weeks, which is quite severe. I'm also aware untreated or not treated properly it can have serious consequences.

I will administer the antibiotics if neccessary, but does anyone have knowledge or experience of alternative treatments? I'm not convinced blueberry juice or cranberry juice will be compatible with her taste buds as google search only seems to offer this alternative.

ClayDavis Fri 10-May-13 01:28:34

The last one I had I managed to wake myself up one night screaming in pain but I know they're not always agony. I've had a couple that were just a mild ache and not much else. However, the OP said the pain was quite severe and that seems unnecessary if she has the antibiotics that would treat it.

lljkk Thu 09-May-13 13:51:41

She may well not be in agony, I know a few cases of girls with chronic infections (because they refused prescribed antiBs, not because they weren't made available!). And they coped fairly well.

But it's risky. Too risky for me.

ClayDavis Thu 09-May-13 10:47:02

In my experience, mild UTIs can clear up on their own. They can also look as though they have cleared up but not all the bacteria has gone. This will lead to what looks like repeated infections but is in fact the same infection.

Fortunately there's almost certainly a solution to this problem. Give her the antibiotics. She must be in horrendous pain.

BlueBumedFly Wed 08-May-13 20:01:56

Instead of looking for the eternal 'cure' outside antibs, wouldn't time be better spent trying to find out why she has recurrent pain? Constipation can lead to UTIs in little girls, something to do with reversed flow (I'm sure one of the more qualified could explain) or does she have a case of worms? That causes uti type pain in girls as they go round the front too (sorry TMI I realise).

When your child is old enough to make decisions about her own use of antibs then she can take them or not, in the meantime it's your job to protect her from damaging her kidneys!

BlueBumedFly Wed 08-May-13 19:59:24

Instead of looking for the eternal 'cure' outside antibs, wouldn't time be better spent trying to find out why she has recurrent pain? Constipation can lead to UTIs in little girls, something to do with reversed flow

lljkk Wed 08-May-13 19:57:05

The scarring shit is very scary. They can need a kidney transplant as adults just because of bad UTIs as little girls. I strongly don't like antiBs either, but I'd rather them than risk a transplant need.

For ME, if I think I have a twinge of infection, I will go ask a chemist for that super acidic drink you can get, and see how it goes. But I am more careful with DD. Only have the one DD.

wonderingagain Wed 08-May-13 19:52:59

You do get GPs in the UK who do homeopathy but mine was trained in Germany where they do it as a matter of course.

Sidge Wed 08-May-13 19:45:43

I find it hard to believe any GP prescribed cranberry pills.

Unless the OP has a private GP or isn't in the UK.

Machli Wed 08-May-13 19:15:00

He prescribed them AFTER OP declined AB's. Both at fault IMO.

wonderingagain Wed 08-May-13 19:07:49

To be fair though, her GP prescribed her the cranberry pills, that doesn't mean she's refusing treatment. The GP is prescribing inappropriate treatment and surely should take the rap if there were accusations of neglect?

PoppadomPreach Wed 08-May-13 18:19:38

I fear for your poor child. You appear to be incapable of putting her welfare before your unfounded and immoral principles.

I fine your attitude to your daughter, utterly irresponsible and abhorrent.

YoniOrNotYoni Wed 08-May-13 18:11:59

Oh-kay, so the op is rude as well as ignorant? Glad I posted a personal response to that.

MirandaWest Wed 08-May-13 15:47:34

I once had a kidney infection after a urine infection (which was being treated). Was one of the most painful things ever - worse than childbirth I think. Fine, your DD is ok now but please investigate why she keeps getting the infections and realise anti biotics used correctly are a good thing.

Machli Wed 08-May-13 14:27:43

You've no right to "decline" antibiotics on your child's behalf.

You are neglecting her. Disgusting.

sallysparrow157 Wed 08-May-13 14:27:28

I have been in situations where child protection proceeding have been used as a last resort to treat severe bacterial infections when the parent was refusing to comply with appropriate medical treatment. Choosing not to seek and comply with appropriate medical treatment for a child is classified as neglect.
Cranberry juice or pills do not treat infections. They may make the bladder wall inhospitable to bacteria so preventing infections but they don't actually kill the bacteria that are already there during a current infection. So they are worth taking as a prophylactic measure to those prone to infections but will not treat infections.
Untreated urinary act infections may get better by themselves in healthy people with normal urinary tracts. However they may not and may then lead to kidney infections which may need hospital treatment and can also lead to scarring of the kidney which will never get better and can lead to renal failure. In the short term, they are painful and unpleasant but symptoms improve within 24 to 48 hours with appropriate antibiotics.

Sidge Wed 08-May-13 14:19:58

A GP prescribed cranberry pills??

You're obviously not in the UK!!

Given the damage that a prolonged UTI can do to a child's kidneys, I cannot understand why anyone would put their beliefs about antibiotics over their child's welfare.

Snowme - your child was lucky this time - the infection cleared up without the antibiotics - but you took an enormous gamble with your child's long term health and well being. It is your choice to take that gamble with your own health, but I genuinely believe you do not have the right to prioritise your own principles over your child's health.

Snowme, your daughter's UTI cleared up in spite of your cranberry pills, not because of them. And honestly, only someone who has never experienced the excrutiating pain of bacterial cystitis could withold a safe and effective treatment (which would work within 24 hours) from a small child.

wonderingagain Wed 08-May-13 10:51:00

God I'm remembering the pain. It really is the body trying to tell you something very serious is wrong.

OhWhatAPalaver Wed 08-May-13 10:31:43

Unfortunately ab's are the only way to clear up such infections without risking serious consequences. Please give them to your dd, after she has completed the course she can then take concentrated cranberry pills on a a daily basis to avoid getting another infection.

wonderingagain Wed 08-May-13 10:21:28

Actually 6 juniper berries also works. You just chew them. It's disgusting but worked for me for a mild infection.

But your attitude to posters stinks OP. Defensive and ungrateful. Sorry.

hazeyjane Wed 08-May-13 10:20:46


My view is that it is really not fair to not give your dd abs (I am choosing the most polite words I can there)

Dd2 (5) had a urine infection over Christmas, which went on for ages unnoticed - until she woke up one morning shivering, sweating and looking like the girl from The Exorcist. She was delirious and severely dehydrated, due to the infection. The abs sorted out the infection in a matter of days, it took her weeks to get back to her normal self though.

Snowme Wed 08-May-13 10:16:29

Urine tests have also shown the infection cleared after cranberry pills, so she is the some of the*some people* that it works for. GP prescribed the pills after I declined the antibiotics.

Snowme Wed 08-May-13 10:13:53

OP hasn't gone anywhere, just not Watching the thread. As a time-served MN regular of many years standing I know which subjects are flame throwers, and antibiotics is one of them. I don't come here for advice, just views. Please don't expect a response from me ontos thread, Im just here to read your views.

NotWilliamBoyd Fri 03-May-13 12:40:47

Cranberry juice is of no value once there is infection present, in fact it will probably make the urine more acidic and even more painful to pass.

I'm hoping that this is not a genuine query, I feel very uncomfortable with the idea of a parent witholding important medicine prescribed for their child whilst asking a load of strangers on the internet for alternative ideas.

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