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Lazy childminder

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brightpinkleggings Fri 08-Feb-13 12:59:30

There is a childminder in our village who is possibly the laziest person i know. She comes to toddlers/clubs, unloads the kids, sits on her bum and doesn't move all the time she is there. Apart from the odd 'don't do that Johnny', she ignores the kids, who end up seeking attention from others. It makes me so cross that she is classed as 'good' by ofsted. If she is this lazy at toddlers, what is she like at home?

poachedeggs Fri 08-Feb-13 13:01:08

If I was a CM I'd be at every toddler group going to get a break from the constant cut-and-stick hell.

What's with the CM bashing today?

FunnysInLaJardin Fri 08-Feb-13 13:03:17

isn't that what toddler groups are for? To allow the children to play while you have a break?

Moominsarehippos Fri 08-Feb-13 13:04:13

Do the parents complain?

Becp Fri 08-Feb-13 13:06:35

If ofsted graded her good she must be doing something right, if she was really lazy she'd stay home and put cbeebies on. I've met one or two of those in my time envy

MirandaWest Fri 08-Feb-13 13:06:50

She's probably having a break in the toddler group as she's very active at home with the children. You are being rather petty I feel.

Floralnomad Fri 08-Feb-13 13:08:16

She brings them ,they play I always thought that was the idea.

ReetPetit Fri 08-Feb-13 13:18:05

I wouldn't worry too much op - unless you see her being truly neglectful or abusive. we are allowed to have a sit down now and then. toddler groups are about the only time i get any adult interaction so i do like a natter. do hope i'm not being judged for it by others!!

ReetPetit Fri 08-Feb-13 13:19:06

agree with Becp - the cms you have to worry about are those who are not visible. The ones who don't go to any groups. If she is going to toddlers then she is putting in that effort, more than some!

Saltire Fri 08-Feb-13 13:25:42

I agree Reet - I don't do pre school childminding any more but taking mindees to playgorups etc help socailise both children and childminder

brightpinkleggings Fri 08-Feb-13 13:29:34

I am a bit surprised that you all think this is fine. She literally doesn't move the entire time while her minded kids are pushing and shoving. Isn't this where she should be teaching them to take turns, share etc. I agree that the kids need to be able to go off and play, and there's nothing wrong with having a chat, but surely some of the time should be spent with the kids bearing in mind there are toddler groups 4 days of the week here.

NickNacks Fri 08-Feb-13 13:35:47

Are you a cm?

brightpinkleggings Fri 08-Feb-13 13:36:17


Strix Fri 08-Feb-13 13:38:55

"If ofsted graded her good she must be doing something right"

I think you have a little too much faith in ofsted. She is probably "good" at paperwork and implemeting EYFS, which in my view as a parent is not same thing as a good childminder.

I agree with op. Of course it's find for childminders to sit down and have a chat whilst mindees play. But this one sounds like she doesn't intervene or respond to their needs when it is needed.

" she ignores the kids, who end up seeking attention from others" is not really my idea of how I would like my children to be cared for in my absense.

Flisspaps Fri 08-Feb-13 13:49:23

I'm a CM.

I don't go to groups. I make that clear to the parents of my mindees at our first meeting. The ones that sign up are happy with that - I'm a home from home service, and I never took my two to groups when it was just me and them.

Today we've made clocks, done some painting, had free play and done some drawing and letter practice. Later on we'll bake cakes if there's time after the school run

Going to groups is not a measure of how good (or not) a childminder is.

Greensleeves Fri 08-Feb-13 13:52:30

Did you get graded satisfactory OP? You've obviously got a bee in your bonnet about something.

I had a lazy childminder. She sat my kids on the sofa in front of the tv and wouldn't let them get off because they might hurt the babies who were playing on the floor (while she dicked around in the kitchen). They were bored shitless and hated going. It was only for a few weeks though thank god. Taking toddlers to a toddler group and chatting to other adults rather than helicoptering = perfectly acceptable IMO.

FunnysInLaJardin Fri 08-Feb-13 14:01:27

she should be monitoring the children and making sure they don't harm themselves or others but she doesn't need to play with them while they are there. Provided they are happy and palying with other children that's enough.

You do seem to have changed your story about now the children were behaving though from chatting to other adults to harming other children

ReetPetit Fri 08-Feb-13 14:04:47

okay maybe she is a bit lazy. if you truly feel her children are being neglected then you should inform your newtwork co ordinator/ofsted if you feel its serious enough.

Something tells me you won't do that op - which also tells me you are being a bit of a busy body, sorry....

pictish Fri 08-Feb-13 14:06:03

Oh mind your own business for crying out loud!

Becp Fri 08-Feb-13 14:06:50

Getting an ofsted "good" grading is a out far more than being good at paperwork & although I agree ofsted put too much emphasis on it, I am a good graded child minder who finds that comment a little patronising.

Becp Fri 08-Feb-13 14:08:24

*about far more. Sorry blush

RobinSparkles Fri 08-Feb-13 14:09:03

If she's a "good" CM she can't be that lazy. Her paper work must be up to date etc.

The groups are probably her break, TBH.

RobinSparkles Fri 08-Feb-13 14:12:23

She might be fabulous at home hence she has a sit down at toddler group.

Becp Fri 08-Feb-13 14:16:23

I agree with you robin, you've put it better than I did confused

brightpinkleggings Fri 08-Feb-13 14:31:50

No offence but you all seem a little defensive. No i do not have a bee in my bonnet about her being graded good. I find it embarrassing that another childminder can be so openly lazy - i think it gives us a bad name (parents do notice). And i feel sorry for her children who always come to me to sort out their needs. And that makes me embarrassed because i feel like i'm taking over her kids (which i'm not).

brightpinkleggings Fri 08-Feb-13 14:33:12

Also why can't you be good at home and good at toddler group? Surely if it is too much trouble you should be doing something else.

ReetPetit Fri 08-Feb-13 14:34:27

say something to her then!! or discuss it with your network co ordinator...

Fightlikeagirl Fri 08-Feb-13 14:36:38

As a cm, you know your mindees and how much interaction to give at toddler groups, my 3 yr old uses this time as a break from me!! She runs off and plays and only comes back to me when it's time to go which is great so I can then give my two youngest ones lots of attention. Maybe someone might see me and think I'm neglecting her but I'm not, she wants the independence.
If this cm's mindees are needing help from others though then maybe she should be interacting more but I'd just say something light to her like "think johnny needs some help over there". Definitely don't report her unless you have any concerns over the children's actual safety.

Greensleeves Fri 08-Feb-13 14:38:36

Defensive? Over what? I'm not a childminder confused

As a parent though, it's actually the schoolyard bitching that gives you a bad name. If you find her sitting having a cuppa "embarrassing" then don't go.

OutragedFromLeeds Fri 08-Feb-13 14:39:39

Give the Daily Mail a call OP. I can see the headlines now 'Childminder its down at playgroup shocker!'

Won't somebody think of the children.

ReetPetit Fri 08-Feb-13 14:40:48

lol grin

brightpinkleggings Fri 08-Feb-13 14:42:46

Well that told me. Maybe i'll have a go at putting my feet up next time seeing as how acceptable it seems to be.

ReetPetit Fri 08-Feb-13 14:44:01

yes,try it op - it might help your stress levels wink

brightpinkleggings Fri 08-Feb-13 14:47:54

Why do you think i'm stressed? I love being a cm and get satisfaction from doing my best for my mindees wherever we are.

ReetPetit Fri 08-Feb-13 14:52:34

i just feel op, you are worrying too much. unless you feel the children are being neglected, i would try not to concern myself too much.
everyone is entitled to a break now and again. it's only 2 hours of the day you are seeing this woman for. At least she is actually bothering to go to groups.

badtemperedaldbitch Fri 08-Feb-13 15:06:06

Now you see the op's judgy attitude pisses me off and is why I only ventured to the local group today after cm for 6 months..... And before anyone asks my two are sitting with me, sleeping while I do this. I never took my own dd to any groups but a parent requested it today and I'm happy to make them happy.

But I cannot stand all the judging..... It's enough to make you question your job choice.

I love the kids, they love me, the parents are happy, and love me to.......So why do I feel that I'm in a goldfish bowl?

Do you go to the four groups a week? You must do, otherwise you wouldn't know she goes to four a week too. I would kinda think you lazy and maybe a bit unimaginative, churning over old ground again and again. Jus' sayin'.

<pokes OP with pointy stick>

brightpinkleggings Fri 08-Feb-13 16:14:51

No i dont. We usually do 2 groups. I dont want this to turn into a slanging match, just air my frustration but i obviously see things very differently to most of you. Sorry if i have offended you with my judgeyness.

HSMMaCM Fri 08-Feb-13 17:02:34

I can see where you're coming from OP. It's ok for this CM who has taken her children out for some fun to allow them to explore and free play, but she should be actively watching them and helping or intervening if necessary. I have some mindees who can get on with making friends and playing all morning and others who need closer supervision, help with painting aprons, etc.

I'd love to be able to sit down all.morning, but I can't see it happening.

I do agree that if she was really lazy, she would not take the children out.

FunnysInLaJardin Fri 08-Feb-13 17:11:02

lol, I'm not a CM either and so am not defensive, just thinking about how I am at toddler group. I let my 2yo get on with it, although I do keep an eye on him obv. The other parents most likely judge me dreadfully, but luckily I don't care!

Titchyboomboom Fri 08-Feb-13 17:16:36

I am a CM and recently in my area, there has been a notice put out to CMs asking them to ensure they look after the children in their care at children's centre groups. There have been numerous complaints about them turning up en masse, and not disciplining the children when they push, throw etc. In my area it is an issue regarding the children's unchecked behaviour

Mrscupcake23 Fri 08-Feb-13 20:58:21

I am sure she would act differently if ofsted came and inspected her at the toddler group. It annoys me when I have to do craft with other people's children because the mums or carers cannot be bothered.

knackeredmother Fri 08-Feb-13 21:04:00

I don't think this is acceptable at all op. if I was paying someone to look after my kids I would be very unhappy at this. I don't know any other profession where you expect to sit down and have a natter. Most professionals don't take lunch and would not expect to sit down 'nattering' for 2 hours out of their paid working days.
This thread puts me off ever using a childminder if this is seen as acceptable.

OutragedFromLeeds Fri 08-Feb-13 21:12:16

knackeredmother have a read up on child development, children need time to explore and play independently.

I would recommend that you avoid nurseries, nannies and schools as well. All of them would find a child playing independently in a safe, child-centered environment perfectly acceptable.

Snusmumriken Fri 08-Feb-13 21:27:05

DH and I decided not to send our LO to a childminder after seeing how negligent many of them are while at children's centres.

It took one CM about a half hour to realise that her charges had left the building. Luckily a parent had found them on the street outside ( busy London road) and brought them inside.

I want to point out that I am not implying that all or even the majority of CM are bad.

knackeredmother Fri 08-Feb-13 21:27:23

The op is describing someone who does not move for 2 hours, no intervening or managing squabbles or any interaction with children. I have a degree in child psychology, medicine and a nanny thankyou. My opinion stands, she sounds lazy.

knackeredmother Fri 08-Feb-13 21:29:04

I take it you are a childminder outraged from Leeds and hence see a 2 hour paid break as acceptable. I find this unprofessional.

Snusmumriken Fri 08-Feb-13 21:29:11

Sorry about the choppy post...I am multitasking!

bamboostalks Fri 08-Feb-13 21:31:30

The cm at a toddler group I used to go to were borderline neglectful of their charges. They sat in a covern together bitching and gossiping. The funny thing was I was only thereto find one for myself. Ididfind a tiptop one but not art that group.

ReetPetit Fri 08-Feb-13 21:32:52

knackeredmother, get off your high horse! the op is not with the cm in question at every group - she only sees her once, maybe twice a week she says. if she truly does not move, then yes, she is being lazy, but most cms do go to a 2 hour group for a 'break' of sorts and some sort of adult interaction!!

do you not get any break at all during the day? what kind of job do you do?

knackeredmother Fri 08-Feb-13 21:33:00

I must add clearly not all childminders see playgroup as a break for 2 hours inc op. I know there are good childminders out there but at shocked so many find this acceptable.

OutragedFromLeeds Fri 08-Feb-13 21:37:22

I'm a nanny knackered, also with a degree in psychology actually. I don't have a 2 hour paid break. I do let the children play independently at playgroup. They know where I am, if they need me they come to me. I sit and chat. I watch them and if I need to intervene I will. I very rarely need to (and often don't need to get up off my chair, words are enough).

Is your nanny allowed to sit down or does she interact with the children constantly all day?

knackeredmother Fri 08-Feb-13 21:40:59

The difference with the OP is that the CM wasn't intervening when needed. Totally different scenario.

Becp Fri 08-Feb-13 22:10:31

That's not actually what she said initially, the cm in question seems to have got worse as the thread goes on confused

WorriedMary Sat 09-Feb-13 07:44:48

In the OP it said the the 'lazy' CM said 'Don't do that Johnny' so she did intervene when the children did something. The story then changed to make her sound worse.

knackeredmother Sat 09-Feb-13 08:30:30

But she didn't get up once! I'm astounded people think this is acceptable.

Floralnomad Sat 09-Feb-13 08:36:30

Unless the OP has her eyes fixed on her for the entire 2 hours how do we really know that this woman doesn't move? And if the OP has her eyes fixed on her for the 2 hours I would suggest that her time might be better spent paying more attention to her mindees . Hence neither of them sound like they're doing a wonderful job !

brightpinkleggings Sat 09-Feb-13 09:14:21

Its fairly obvious when someone doesn't move! Also since when is saying 'don't do that johnny' across the room effective behaviour management with a pre schooler. Where exactly did i change my story? And if i am such a rubbish cm surely i would be sat on my bum instead of ensuring my mindees are getting the most from their trip to toddlers and their needs are met.

brightpink, what folk are saying is that your opening post was grumbling about the CM sitting around and occasionally saying don't do that johnny to the children who are being attention-seeking with others, then you subsequently appeared to embellish it to the children pushing and shoving, after some posters said ''hmm not sure what the prob is''

drip-feeding of info, usually to try to get posters to change their minds, can really rile seasoned MNers [understatement]

any fwiw imo there IS a balance to be struck, between standing back and letting the children get on with learning to mix, to share, to take turns, to lead play, to follow play and being nearer, on hand, to intervene if necessary, depending on the ages and stages of the children in one's care that day. Sitting around on one's arse does not fall into either camp

knackeredmother Sat 09-Feb-13 10:16:16

Reetpetit: I wouldn't expect any professional to take a 2 hour break. I'm not on my high horse at all, parents are paying for a service. No I don't get a break in my job but not do most professionals I know. I'm a doctor as you ask not that's it's relevant.

Mrscupcake23 Sat 09-Feb-13 10:43:22

I don't think bright pink has changed her story unless I am missing something. I do think if you are getting paid to look after someone else's child you should make more of an effort .( I was a bit more lazy with my own children than minded ones)

Not all childminders are brilliant,or nannies or doctors. There has been a couple of threads on childminders this week and you do all tend to jump in and stick together.

ReetPetit Sat 09-Feb-13 11:32:45

i would be surprised if this cm really does sit for the whole 2 hours barking out orders at her mindees and not moving an inch. if that is the true situation then yes, she sounds lazy and should be challenged my one of the other cms in the group or whoever is running the group...
the op didn't say this origanally which is why i think people couldn't see the problem.
like i said before, yes, she sounds lazy BUT she is going to groups with them. if she was really, really lazy she wouldn't even go to groups.
i think if she is truly bad then you should say something op!

Flisspaps Sat 09-Feb-13 15:06:02

reet that's the THIRD time on this thread that you've said this CM can't be lazy 'because she goes to groups'.

Attending groups is NOT an indicator of how hard working a CM is (or not). I don't do groups, but that doesn't make me any more or less 'lazy' than a CM who attends every group going.

HSMMaCM Sat 09-Feb-13 15:26:32

Mrscupcake23 - I didn't agree with everyone else grin.

Flisspaps- staying at home does definitely not imply you're lazy, but a lazy CM might well stay at home all day.

OutragedFromLeeds Sat 09-Feb-13 15:48:10

knackered even if the childminder does sit down for the whole 2 hours and only says 'don't do that Johnny' she is not having a break. She is maybe having an easier than normal 2 hours, but she isn't on a break from work. She is at playgroup, watching the children. When you have a break from work is it in the surgery seeing to patients?

I think the childminder is being defended here because, apart from dripfeeding, mumsnet doesn't like judgypants. For the OP to know exactly what this childminder does and says for 2 hours and to also know what her mindees are doing/saying/needing for 2 hours she must pay absolutely no attention to her own charges and just sit (or stand) and watch for 2 hours. This is very unlikely. What has probably happened is that the OP has seen this childminder and her charges at playgroup, hitched her judgypants up into her arse crack, and decided based on little bits of observation (interrupted by dealing with her own charges of course) over a short period of time that this childminder is lazy and isn't doing a good job for her mindees.

No one needs that kind of judging and the OP should mind her own business.

ReetPetit Sat 09-Feb-13 17:32:54

Flisspaps, if you re read what i have written, i have actually said if these posts are accurate then she is lazy but if she was REALLY lazy she wouldn't go to groups.

I am not saying all cms who don't go to groups are lazy but I do think it shows a certain amount of inititiave and energy to even go to 4 groups a week as this cm apparently does hmm

brightpinkleggings Sat 09-Feb-13 19:35:57

Why is it easier to stay at home than go toddlers? I totally disagree.

HSMMaCM Sat 09-Feb-13 20:25:57

It's harder to stay at home if you are working properly, but it's easier to stay home if you just shut the children in a room with cbeebies all day.

ReetPetit Sat 09-Feb-13 20:42:17

personally,i couldn't bear to be in all day! i do lots with my mindees and like to do messy activities which are much more difficult and messier wink at home. I also do use groups as a social outlet for me as otherwise i would go stir crazy.
however, i do know of cms who do nothing with their mindees and don't go to groups. i am really not saying this is true of all cms who stay at home but i do know of people who go home, clean, cook and stick mindees in front of tv. not good but easily done and how would anyone know if you are not visible. This is all I was saying. this cm may be (fairly) lazy and in which case you should challenge her if you feel she is truly neglectful when at group but at least her mindees are getting out to groups and she is putting in the effort of getting their 4 days a week!!

morescribbles Sat 09-Feb-13 20:42:46

When I started childminding I used to interact a huge amount with my mindees at groups but found that it made my mindees rely on me far too much. The purpose of toddler groups is to help children to interact with their peer group, to work with their personal, social and emotional development. There are craft activities and areas that we can join the children to assist them and observe them at play. I look after my mindees for ten hours in a day and our home based play is very structured. When I have mindees with me who are confident enough to enjoy independent play alongside and with other children I will sit aside and feel a pride in their confidence and security in their surroundings and social interractions. It is important for the children to have their own uninterrupted time with other children to prepare them for social skills at nursery. Certainly at the groups i go to childminders will help where help is needed but will stand back and supervise play allowing the children their own time too. i can't comment on the cm in question but it worries me that parents may see it as negative that we don't spend all our time alongside children. They need to learn how to make friends. One of my mindees received a party invitation from a little boy at group. He was do shy initially. It has taken a long time and a lot of work to get him to the point he could leave my side and make friends. His parents were so pleased. I love watching him race into the groups now, wanting to play with other children without a concerned look in my direction. Again I can't be sure with the cm in question but please don't judge cm for sitting down and talking. We share ideas, discuss methods of dealing with situations and yes, sometimes just talk but we are working and I don't consider toddler groups a break!!

Murjika Fri 03-May-13 00:27:26

What do you think good childminder should provide, I am parent, my son gets picked by CM after school 3pm and some days 4 pm as he does after school club, my CM asked me pay from 3pm regardless what time she picks him up, I agreed but not sure if that's right way forward?
Also whenever I asked my son what he did at CM he says played, and had a snack.
Ism not sure if I should be happy with the care she provides or not, please advice.

OutragedFromLeeds Fri 03-May-13 00:54:42

It would be best to start a new thread rather than bring back an old one that has nothing to do with your question.

doughnut44 Fri 03-May-13 07:04:55

with regards to paying from 3pm -yes definitely. you are using an after school place. If school finishes at 3 that's when you start paying.
What would you like to see your child do at the minders? I would be happy with a play and a snack. They have had structure all day at school and most likely need a break imo x

Fightlikeagirl Fri 03-May-13 11:39:34

Totally agree with poster above.
I would charge from finish of school and I don't do structured activities with my after school children. Maybe a bit of painting or junk modelling if they want to but most of the time they want to either have a play in the garden to let off steam or have fun building with the lego.

MaryPoppinsBag Fri 03-May-13 11:40:12

I'm a CM and charge a flat rate of £10 / child after school.
She is right to charge you from 3. Does she have to go home with other children she collects and then head back 30 mins after she got home to collect yours? Major ball ache and I would just say no.

By the time I get in at 3.40 the kids just want to play because they've been doing all day at school.

They have their tea at 4.30.

Then they play until their grown up comes some leave as early as 4.45-5pm. There there is very little time to do organised activity.

Besides playing together is important - building relationships, learning to share and cooperate.

What would you like to see you CM do?

minderjinx Fri 03-May-13 16:11:48

I also wouldn't be happy to go back to collect a child at four, so I certainly wouldn't be offering a reduced rate for the extra hassle.

fivesacrowd Fri 03-May-13 16:41:08

Why is this posted under a thread about a lazy childminder when you have a cm who is prepared to do 2 school runs to fit in with your dc's needs? Have you asked the cm what the afterschool routine is? I have days where we come home, have snack, do homework, play and boardgame and do a craft or baking activity. Today however, they got soaked on way home, devoured snack and now they're watching a movie while building towers out of wooden blocks and knocking them over. Their parents just want them to be happy, safe & secure. A good childminder is led by the needs of the children.
As for the lazy cm thread, I was at play training this week and we were advised to sit back and let children play, not interfere unless invited to by the child. Obviously if they need me I'm there, but you have to let them learn to play and interact and manage risk by themselves.

Murjika Fri 03-May-13 19:41:34

I have asked a question I am not judging anyone, just wanted an opinion.
When we started I said my son was attending clubs and CM was very happy with this. I never had childminder before and had no idea how it worked. It costs me more to pay for after school club so it's not about the money. I would have been happier if she explained like some of you did that it's a hassle and I would agree. I still agreed, but I don't believe in getting paid for work one does not do.
I will be cancelling clubs from next term anyway.

Fivesacrowd, the was a lot of discussn about what childminders do during the day and that's why I posted my question here.

MaryPoppinsBag Fri 03-May-13 21:28:23

She may not do the 'work' but she cannot fill that hour with another child. So that is why she charges it.
Travelling to pick up your DC will eat into that time that she apparently doesn't work.

CM is a business and most business people have a set idea of what they want to earn and charge accordingly.

You don't have to accept it, you might be able to move CM but I expect you'd be charged similar by another. Obviously you realise this and are cancelling classes.

Regarding what your DC does whilst he is there depends on how long he is there for after his club as to what she could fit in. I had grand ideas of baking and craft projects and the reality is there is little time between getting home and parents arriving. Baking takes too long and is too chaotic with 4-6 children. And craft projects are very messy and they no sooner start as I have to clear the table for tea!

At that time of day I have cleared up after my littlies in the day and don't want the mess TBH. My business my rules! The beauty of being self employed.

Kids love to just play any way!

I spent ages setting up a small world with my EYFS children the other day. They helped me set it up with natural materials from the garden and chose the animals for it. Played for 5 minutes with it and buggered off back to the tree swing - that the 3 year old had just mastered the previous day. Which I thought was brilliant because he'd learnt something new (it's a rope swing in my cherry tree and little ones do struggle with it). And my DS(4) learnt how to share it. They were 'just ' playing but they both achieved something!

Ask her if she intends to provide craft activities, now your DC will attend the after school clubs.


Murjika Sat 04-May-13 07:35:18

Thank you very much for a very helpful post marypoppynsbag, I am not asking for baking and messy plays etc things which take a long time. I asked her to help him to read his school book, which takes about 5 minutes. She does not have any other kids there apart from her own 1-2 and her other half always seems to be at home. So I thought that was feasible. And she did not mind it at all. We are at good terms and I am a sensible parent understanding that everyone has to earn money and she would not be able to fill in that hour with other kid.
The reason why asked, was that I came across other childminders who for the same fee provide dinner and help kids with homework.
I want to increase hours with my CM but she can't do one of the days I asked so if I change to different childcare that would be the only reason.

anewyear Sat 04-May-13 08:36:44

I only have After Schoolers (6,7,8 & 11) as I work in Pre School during the day.
When we come in, the boys disappear in to the lounge and the T.V goes, on the girls tend to go to the dining room, where I have my craft cuboard and find something they would like to do in there.
All the kids tend to wander back and forth from both rooms joining in if they wish.
I have plenty of board games, books etc
They all like Bingo and Twister, both very popular as is Scrable and Nab-It, they all join in when one of them decided to get these games out.
I brought a 'school set' for them to play 'schools' from Amazon which is very Popular too hmm

We have a snack around 4pm,
We also 'Bake' every few weeks.
I only do Tea on a Tuesday as 3 of them have activities to go to straight after they're picked up (5.15)

Homework and school reading books. I personally think thats the parents job, however if a child asks me to read a book with them, then yes of course I will, and the same with homework, But that very rarley gets taken out of their book bag tho grin

Just a small insight as to what happens in my setting after school.

Lovingcarenanny Sat 04-May-13 10:18:15

With many years of childminding behind me I have to say I was a more pro-active childminder, I preferred to sit on the carpet at the children's level so the babies and toddlers could come to me for cuddles or to show me a toy/tell me something etc...they would then crawl/toddle off happily on their own. I would go and help if they needed it without 'helicoptering' or following them around. I could still socialise and talk to other cm's but felt I was more accessible to my little ones without being on top of them iyswim.

Many cm's would sit around the edge of the room drinking hot drinks, chatting without even looking at their mindees, looking at their phones lol and shouting across the room but hey ho we're all different and I did truly feel sorry for some of the little ones.

I totally agree that children need to learn to play independently without constant adult attention but it's a sad fact that there are some cm's who are not suited to the job and others who are brilliant :-)

RosieGirl Sat 04-May-13 13:31:08

CM's just can't win, can they? On some threads there is CM bashing about how children are not stimulated, looked after properly, the constant bitching about "if I pay some to care for my child, I expect them to be paying 100% attention to my child, how dare they have a cup if tea, talk to other adults, while I am paying her/him". Then on the other hand, complaints about our charging policies, how expensive we are, how it would be better to have "basic" childcare, so there could be somewhere or leave children in a warm, loving, homely environment, without all these silly rules....

OP, if it worries you enough to put it on a public forum, why not address it yourself. An "excuse me x could you help me do something with these children as I could do with another pair of hands" or as others have said speak to you local DO.

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