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Would like a position as an after school nanny. Am I too old?

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ladydayblues Wed 10-Oct-12 16:58:09

I am 53 yrs. Have 4 four grown up children, last just off to Uni. Although I havent had a real job for 16 years, I am a graduate with an enhanced CRB and clean driving licence, can cook, clean and have a first aid qualification. I have supervised playdates, supervised music practice, supervised homework etc. What else do I need to be considered for this position as I am not getting any replies to my applications. I wonder if I am too old. Any suggestions would be really welcomed.

CelineMcBean Wed 10-Oct-12 17:03:38

Are you putting your age on applications? Because I don't see how your age is relevant. If you were 82yo I might but 53yo is years off state retirement age.

wadadlis Wed 10-Oct-12 17:06:54

Oh my god I really really hope you live near me, you sound wonderful!

Bonsoir Wed 10-Oct-12 17:08:04

Agree with wadadlis!

Where are you advertising/applying?

ladydayblues Wed 10-Oct-12 17:10:37

No I havent put my age on applications but with my "own children ranging from 30 to 20" its easy to work out that I am not a spring chicken! I just wondered if parents think I am too old to run around after their kids!

Bonsoir Wed 10-Oct-12 17:11:41

I would say that you have brought up four children of your own and not state ages. Having a 30 year old makes you sound 60+ to many ears.

wadadlis Wed 10-Oct-12 17:12:38

Never, YOU ARE NOT TOO OLD. Experience counts for everything IMO.
Good luck - don't give up, you seriously sound perfect.

Ladymuck Wed 10-Oct-12 17:13:05

Where are you advertising? Or are you applying for roles?

IME people like you are snapped up immediately!

CelineMcBean Wed 10-Oct-12 17:14:22

Yes take out the ages of children. Stick to the relevant facts.

Where do you live? Round here parents would be desperate to snap you up

cheaperthantherapy Wed 10-Oct-12 17:14:49

No!! Definitely not too old smile

Maybe try word of mouth - through friends children / your own children etc?

Good luck.

ladydayblues Wed 10-Oct-12 17:17:12

OH thinks it could be that I have "no previous experience". I have been looking through Gumtree as I wasnt keen on going to an Agency, as they seem to require a great deal of nanny qualifications. Am based in London

BackforGood Wed 10-Oct-12 17:17:48

I'd have thought that it would be considered a + point, not a disadvantage - all that experience. smile

Surrealistrhinoceros Wed 10-Oct-12 17:18:49

I have a DS with ?ASD and a few other issues and a kind experienced older lady would be well up my list of preferences if looking for an after school nanny (sorry, we aren't right now!)

I agree I would put your actual age as if your prospective employer was used to a model of women having babies in late twenties or thirties they might put you at 60 plus. Not that this should be a problem either but they might think you are close to wanting to retire or a bit less physically active for running round after young ones?

Good luck

Ladymuck Wed 10-Oct-12 17:25:13

Is there definitely no previous experience? Childcare for friends, helping at school, cubs, brownies etc?

dikkertjedap Wed 10-Oct-12 17:27:06

Not too old, could it be that people are worried you are too expensive????

ladydayblues Wed 10-Oct-12 17:32:31

So shall I bite the bullet and approach an Agency? Two of my children are dyslexic so I am v experience there and one has ADHD, so I can handle that. Is that worth mentioning? I just dont have a piece of paper saying I am qualified in childcare!

Catilla Wed 10-Oct-12 17:33:24

How have you been responding to ads? I really appreciate responses where the candidate tries to explain how their experience, skills and preferences suit the role. Your post here is chatty but to the point about what you have - formalise that a bit for the target audience, match it to their advert, and I'd have thought you would definitely be invited!

I'd focus on your children (experience, plus now freedom to be flexible) plus your background (graduate etc) means you can treat the children how the parents would like, help with homework etc, plus you have the formalities of CRB/first aid.

Like other posters, I'd be keen to meet you too!
Maybe advertise on Mumsnet Local?

Catilla Wed 10-Oct-12 17:34:40

Just to add, after cross-posting, that IME paper quals in childcare are worth squat. Not one nanny I've met with "qualifications" has given me confidence that they could apply the necessary combination of loving care, fun and responsibility that is needed.

ladydayblues Wed 10-Oct-12 17:35:34

I take children camping for 2 weeks every summer as a volunteer, which is why I have an enhanced CRB. I just dont have any direct Nanny/childminding experience.

Asmywhimsytakesme Wed 10-Oct-12 17:35:51

My nanny is your age - all that experience was a massive plus point smile

CelineMcBean Wed 10-Oct-12 17:36:16

If you are in London then I would stop applying for specific jobs and start doing things like putting up cards in newsagent's windows, school noticeboards, children's centres, play cafes or anywhere else they will let you and there are parents stating that you are looking for work as an after school nanny (pos a mother's help if prepared to clean).

Include the following:

You have brought up 4 children
You are a graduate
You have an enhanced CRB
You have a clean driving licence
You can cook and clean (only if you're prepared to do both on the job, otherwise just cooking)
You have a first aid qualification
You speak English fluently
You have a good standard of numeracy and literacy
Any musical ability you might have
Any relevant voluntary work you have done

Also include the hourly rate you are looking for and that you can supply references. Who would be your references? Do you not have any recent experience at all? It doesn't have to be paid.

CelineMcBean Wed 10-Oct-12 17:38:05

x-posted. That recent experience and disability experience are massive plus points. Make sure you include them.

I am thinking you would be able to get a reference from the volunteering too?

I think you need to sell yourself and let parents come to you!

And if you're in SW London please PM me!

DowagersHump Wed 10-Oct-12 17:38:19

I would try FindaBabysitter too - it's free to advertise. I had plenty of applicants from women your age when I was trying to find someone for DS - I wanted someone young because it's only a couple of hours and really he wants someone to play with (only child) but if I had a clutch of kids, I would definitely prefer an older person!

My friend has a p-t nanny/helper for her DD who is severely disabled and she is in her 50s and has worked with them for years. She's absolutely wonderful with her DD. I would definitely put your experience with your children with LDs down on your profile - I'm sure that you'll get people biting your hand off smile

BlastOff Wed 10-Oct-12 17:45:12

Are you maybe advertising in the wrong places? Our nanny is in her late 30s and I specifically wanted someone not in their late teens/early 20s.

ladydayblues Wed 10-Oct-12 17:46:23

Aw - Thank You!
Since I took my youngest off to Uni four weeks ago I was feeling the empty nest syndrome, so wanted to use the parenting skills I have. I now have a better idea of approach and will carry on, applying your suggestions.

Asmywhimsytakesme Wed 10-Oct-12 17:49:14

Look for ads for groups likely to attract parents who will prefer an experienced graduate nanny -

- baby/toddler swim classes
- baby yoga classes
- music classes

And ask people who run them if they would hand round/ email round your flier.

I would definitely have interviewed you.

SandStorm Wed 10-Oct-12 17:51:39

I found my afterschool nanny through childcare.co.uk. They were few and far between and I wouldn't have been put off by your age in the slighest.

CelineMcBean Wed 10-Oct-12 17:53:03

Find a babysitter charge an extortionate fee for parents to contact a potential childcarer (£25 per month!) and IME their customer service is crappola.

YoullLaughAboutItOneDay Wed 10-Oct-12 17:58:46

In my bit of SE London I would expect you to be snapped up. I would love you if I had the right age children.

Would you do mornings too? There someone on here the other day despairing of ever finding the right childcare to do a return to nursing course, and someone like you was exactly what was discussed as ideal. I would expect that there are more out there like her.

Have you thought about popping along to some local playgroups and asking where they/their friends find childcare? Slightly the wrong age group, but they would have local knowledge. If you can borrow a child to take along, so much the better.

DowagersHump Wed 10-Oct-12 18:05:53

£25 was well worth me finding someone whereas the money I paid to childcare.co.uk was a total waste.

It really isn't a lot if you find someone within a month IMO smile

CelineMcBean Wed 10-Oct-12 18:07:47

That's true Dowagers. It was when the bastards company wouldn't cancel the account despite requesting twice and charged me £75 for absolutely nothing that I felt a bit aggrieved. I just post on the local group for <whispers> netmums or similar now.

januarysnowdrop Wed 10-Oct-12 18:13:51

Don't get downhearted! Loads of people (as you can see from the responses here) would consider your age and life experience a huge asset - we employed a part time nanny a few years ago who was about your age and she was absolutely wonderful. I think the idea of putting cards up locally might be a good one - ask in your local school if there's any way of advertising there. They may have a newsletter that goes out to parents....

I wouldn't necessarily read anything into your lack of luck with applications so far - when we advertised on gumtree we had millions of responses and couldn't interview everybody, even though many of them were excellent on paper. If anything comes up that is very local to you, maybe you could stress that your proximity would be a real asset - you could be available to be called on during the school day if a child became ill or whatever.

DowagersHump Wed 10-Oct-12 18:15:39

Ouch Celine! I did read some comments like that and was a bit worried when I set up my account but they cancelled it immediately

CelineMcBean Wed 10-Oct-12 18:16:48

Yup. Never again. Trying to get the money back through charge back on my credit card.

Ebb Wed 10-Oct-12 18:19:06

In Somerset / Bristol there's an agency who specifically advertise for older mums who've had their own kids and offer a 'second mum' type help to families ie. childcare / cooking / housework. I assume there must be a demand for it. I'm sure you'll be snapped up in no time. smile

Shoshe Wed 10-Oct-12 18:24:48

Im 53 and work as a full time (well term time) nanny so not too old.

All my work has come through Childcare.co.uk.

CouthyMowWearingOrange Wed 10-Oct-12 19:02:55

Some schools have notice boards. Mine does. Often after school childminders put up a notice on the board in the parent's room near the office where the list property cupboard is and where you wait to see the HT if you are called in to see him.

If you were near me, I'd snap you up in a second!

fraktion Wed 10-Oct-12 19:56:52

Absolutely not too old but how about doing the OCN common core skills course so you could be registered with OFSTED if necessary? That would be a big plus point for many parents who might see your profile and think 'drat, perfect but can't use my vouchers'.

Also nannyjob.co.uk and the local boards on netmums (sorry)

topsi Wed 10-Oct-12 19:56:56

If I could ever afford a nanny I would love one who was your age instead of a younger girl. More experience probably more reliable and sensible. I would think it an asset!

elastamum Wed 10-Oct-12 20:01:52

You go for it! My au pair recently left (thank god) and I now have a 61 year old lady, also with grown up children, helping out picking up my teenagers from school when I am at work, cooking tea and walking our dogs. It is sooo much better having a mature adult in the house than an overgrown teen. I expect you will be in great demand smile

Blondeshavemorefun Thu 11-Oct-12 09:51:17

agree not too old and has vast experience esp with special needs, and can cook and clean

but take out your ages of children

why do you want just after school work - and not say 2/3day job

but in my area you would be snapped up - there are loads of after school nanny jobs and tbh people my age dont want them as doesnt pay enough money and want younger children during the day as this is the career i trained for 2 years

have you tried placing an ad on netmums/nanny job

Karoleann Thu 11-Oct-12 11:11:06

I'm amazed too....good, reliable after school nannies are like gold dust around here. If you live anywhere near beaconsfield/penn, please do PM me as there's at least 2 mums at school looking for someone.

WineOhWhy Thu 11-Oct-12 11:19:35

Are you able to work longer hours during school holidays? If so, I would definitely mention that. An after-school nanny would be ideal for us except for the fact that we woudl need someone for longer hours for part of the schools holidays (not the whole time becuase we could cover 6 weeks through the year with annual leave, and we could use a club or two for some of the summer, but would want kids to have some down time at home, plus they are at private school with longer hols). Lots of my friends are in the same position. If you would be able to accomodate full time for at least some school holiday time, you should definitely mention this - this is the holy grail.

ladydayblues Thu 11-Oct-12 11:39:07

Blondeshavemorefun because I am not ready yet to go back into a full day environment and thought this would be a good start. I am not too good in the mornings remembering the sheer drama of getting kids ready for school, breakfast, mad dash to get to work in time for the first meeting, realising that someone vomited on your presentation and/or you still have your house slippers on!

I love the end of day meeting at the gate, hearing about their day at school, going home slowly through the park, together making some upsidedown cake, listening to dreadful violin practice until one day it finally becomes bearable or quietly reading together before OH comes home for tea.

Have booked in for the OCN Common Skills course.

Blondeshavemorefun Thu 11-Oct-12 14:24:31

violin practice NEVER becomes bearable grin wink

and yes understand the early am's only too well!! smile

Laquitar Thu 11-Oct-12 17:59:55

You would definitely be suitable for big-ish families.

Plus points:

- Plenty experience
- Confidence and able to be firm
- Organisation skills and multi-tasking
- Confident in kitchen
- Initiative

I'm sure there are many more...

Some employers even think about pregnancy and maternity leave. I'm not saying i agree but...

The only thing that might concern some people could be the relationship with the parents regarding asking you to do something or wanting smth to be done in different way. So i would use words such as 'easy going', 'flexible', 'adaptable'.

LadyHarrietdeSpook Fri 12-Oct-12 09:55:21

have been following this with interest - I'd hire you and wondered how many offers you'd had already!

As usual I agree with something laquitar raised: the only thing I would want to probe in interview is whether you'd be truly happy if we did things in a different way to what you would have done with your children in a similar circumstance, if you see what I mean.

This is based on prior experience of our first nanny though and not a general sort of age thing. And it can happen, of course, with a childcarer of any age not just someone who happens to be older than the parents (if you are).

Lougle Fri 12-Oct-12 10:06:47

Where are you? I'm fairly desperate (weak grin).

florenceuk Fri 12-Oct-12 10:08:04

I desperately need one - are you in SW London?

Very hard to find a reliable after school nanny who can speak english, drive, cook etc. I would definitely interview you.

Ginda Fri 12-Oct-12 10:27:44

I'd bite your hand off!

ladydayblues Fri 12-Oct-12 12:44:06

It would have to be something really major for me to be unhappy about in terms of how parents wanted me to deal with their children, but I would hope we could discuss it frankly. Each of my four are so completely different that I too had to learn and adjust as I raised them. Other than the obligatory brushing of teeth and washing hands type of thing, i hope I am fairly flexible. DD1 was a dream child, DD2 - the tasmanian devil - you know tantrums in the supermarket kinda thing, DS - well ADHD, DD3 -10 weeks premature so in and out of GOSH for five years. One child didnt eat (much) until they reached puberty - then ate me out of house and home! I too worked at a very senior level when they were young so understand that kinda juggling of time. However I have found at the summer camps the younger staff constantly referring to me for advice so feel I can offer my experience positively. I am in Camden Town.

Laquitar Fri 12-Oct-12 13:07:21

Very good point about learning and adjusting and children having different personalities. You are in a good area for childcare work imo, def put some ads at local libraries etc and try the nearby areas too i.e. Primose Hill, Hamstead/Belsize Park, Swiss cottage...

Thank you Harriet smile

OneHandFlapping Fri 12-Oct-12 13:11:35

I would've thought you would be snapped up. After school nannies are like gold dust. One of my neighbours certainly employed a nanny who was somewhere in her fifties once her children were at school full time.

Would you do full time in the school holidays too because I would imagine that might also be required - also if you were available to cover when the children were off school sick that might be a bonus.

Have you talked to any agencies? They might be able to advise about what their clients require.

shrinkingnora Fri 12-Oct-12 13:18:36

I love the end of day meeting at the gate, hearing about their day at school, going home slowly through the park, together making some upsidedown cake, listening to dreadful violin practice until one day it finally becomes bearable or quietly reading together before OH comes home for tea.

I don't need an after school nanny or live in London but want to employ you for this sentence alone!

I would repost in this topic as seeking work and write an OP explaining your experiences and I bet you'll have a job by the end of the week.

nannykatherine Sun 21-Oct-12 17:33:36

You are perfect ....

Julesnobrain Tue 23-Oct-12 19:53:04

I dream of finding someone like you. Where have you been advertising.? Sorry not read all comments.

mmc Wed 21-Nov-12 13:59:39

Where oh where are you? I need someone just like you! No, really I do.

mycarscallednev Wed 21-Nov-12 14:41:14

Just a small point, but you are really close to several of the large hospitals? My son goes to GOSH at least once a month and countless times I have heard his clinicians saying they have childcare problems - could you put an advert in the staff magazine, or locally there?
I think you will find that its experience, care and your whole child approach which will totally over-ride any issues with your age, many many parents would jump at the chance - you just need to get your name and details noticed. Good luck.

Daisybell1 Wed 21-Nov-12 22:01:07

Have you been snapped up yet? Forget looking after dd, will you come and look after me???

Blondeshavemorefun Wed 21-Nov-12 23:39:50

I was wondering if you had found anything

Sever people asked where you are - op replied Camden town - for those who are looking for childcare

Good idea about hospitals

I would get a few postcards / business cards made up via vista print and leave in coffee shops - sb has a notice board for people to leave cards there
Or pin to boards at mother and toddler or schools

franlib Sat 24-Nov-12 11:00:34

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ladydayblues Mon 26-Nov-12 15:33:54

Ladies! Am Working grin

givemeaclue Mon 26-Nov-12 15:39:15

Congratulations, not at all surprised you sound fab

orangina Mon 26-Nov-12 15:41:07

Our lovely nanny is your age and we really value her maturity and experience. She also has her own children and she looks after us all! We are very lucky to have her with us.

orangina Mon 26-Nov-12 15:41:51

Oh, well done!

Blondeshavemorefun Mon 26-Nov-12 16:51:37

fab lady - what job did you take on?

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