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Nanny looking after own DS and charges in nanny's home?

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By Wed 28-Oct-09 13:01:36 Add message | Report | Contact poster

I've been a nanny for over 15 years and now have my own DS. I have finally found a family who sound v keen on me being their nanny for 3 days a week and taking my DS with me. I'm going to see them on Monday, and am making a list of things we'll need to discuss if it all goes ahead.

One thing I can't find any info about, is if it would be illegal to have the children at my house occasionally (We'd be at their house most of the time but just wondering about times when DS wasn't well etc, and wondering if on occasion she'd be able to drop her children to me on her way to work).

I know a nanny looks after children in someone else's house, and a childminder looks after children in their own home, but wondering where we'd stand with it being a sort of nannyshare (sharing the childcare between hers and my families, sort of).

Does anyone know where I can find this sort of info out, please? Or would it just a be something me and the lady I'm going to see would decide between ourselves?

Add message | Report | Contact poster By Fri 06-Nov-09 17:50:13

Just thought I'd let you know I have the job!

Add message | Report | Contact poster By Fri 30-Oct-09 21:38:33

Nanny insurance is also designed to cover the person not the home, but the definitions they use say 'in and from' the child's home and it would be quite hard to justify why you had the children at your own home whilst you were working. Not a route I would want to go down tbh. You're automatically covered for 'attendance at exhibitions, creches, meetings and outings run for and on behalf of nannies' but that doen't cover your own home.

Add message | Report | Contact poster By Fri 30-Oct-09 21:29:29

but surely taking the children there once in a while and an accident ocurring is just the same as if you took the children to a friends or on an outing and an accident occurred surely you would still be covered or r you only covered if you are in the house when accident occurs. i am a childminder i am insured to my home address but am covered for anywhere i take the children. its me thats insured not my house.

Add message | Report | Contact poster By Fri 30-Oct-09 21:09:45

Moved house today and came back to see what the conclusion is... My brain hurts from reading and trying to keep up with all that!

Very much appreciate it, all smile

Add message | Report | Contact poster By Fri 30-Oct-09 20:33:52

Kitter - hope it is now all clear. Well clear as mud grin

If it was only in exceptional circumstances then you should be fine (though note that your nanny insurance may not cover you on those occasions).

Add message | Report | Contact poster By Fri 30-Oct-09 19:16:34

But you should still have nanny insurance, which doesn't usually cover you in your hown home. So if a charge has an accident there then you're not covered.

I don't understand why this legislation is so badly worded (or why half of it exists in the first place but that's another story).

Add message | Report | Contact poster By Fri 30-Oct-09 10:36:32

Cross-posted - thanks for the pointer, I was slowly working through the revised statutes online.

Add message | Report | Contact poster By Fri 30-Oct-09 10:33:36

Yes Nick, as usual you are absolutely right - the section of the 1989 Act I have been quoting was amended by the Care Standards Act 2000 which came into effect 2.7.2001 in England and 1.4.2002 in Wales.

What I should of course have been quoting was the exemptions used in subsequent acts which you helpfully pointed me towards and I ignored (sorry, I blame the drugs - long story).

So to paraphrase the provisions of current legislation:

Where a person looks after a child for the parents and the work consists of looking after the child wholly or mainly in the child's home the work is not to be treated as child minding.

So again, if you are a nanny that takes your charges home once in a while you are not childminding, you don't need to register as a child minder and you don't need child minder's insurance.

Add message | Report | Contact poster By Fri 30-Oct-09 09:50:22

I think current def is in Care Standards Act 2000, if that part of it still remains in law.

Add message | Report | Contact poster By Fri 30-Oct-09 09:05:40

Good point Nick. Where on Earth does that leave us, because that is where the distinction between childminding and nannying that I quoted that everyone understands comes from?

Off to check sources.

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