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Mumsnet Discussions: Childminders, nannies, au pairs etc : bloody bloody eyfs (33 messages)
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Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Illhavethisinsize12 on Wed 05-Nov-08 20:30:28
is there anywhere i can get eyfs tick charts??why cant someone sell a book of example observations. i could cry this is really doning my head in.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By NumberFour on Wed 05-Nov-08 20:34:10
what about QED and the tracker books?
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Illhavethisinsize12 on Wed 05-Nov-08 20:36:27
oooh. will have a look
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By PinkChick on Wed 05-Nov-08 20:38:34
what a fab idea, if you find one let me know!...i do have some fab risk assesment blank copies (outings/pblic transport/my car/garden etc) that i could email you..we're doing lots of work shops at min and im told not many councils provide these, so ive prob got a lot that most havent, so f i can help..i willsmile!
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By NumberFour on Wed 05-Nov-08 20:41:11
pinkchick, please please can I have copies of the risk assessments????
Will be EVER so grateful.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By looneytune on Wed 05-Nov-08 20:46:46
Me too email is info at helenslittleangels dot co dot uk

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Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Illhavethisinsize12 on Wed 05-Nov-08 20:47:32
thanks can you send to j.johnson699@btinternet.com
qed books do the trackers have just ordered some.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Shoshe on Wed 05-Nov-08 20:47:57
If its any concellation 4, I get in a tizz with it all.

I know how to do a observation, (we all do them all day long fgs) but how to actually write them down is a different matter.

I have written them all down in a A4 book for each child, but then linking them to EYFS is confusing me.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By PinkChick on Wed 05-Nov-08 20:48:36
yep, will scan them in morn before work (got loads) and email them over,a cually seeing as tho it just seems to be this area doing these work shops, i might start athread offering my handouts..we get loads of freebies, books, toys, folders packed with info too!

number 4 let me know you email, ill get them too you as well.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By PinkChick on Wed 05-Nov-08 20:49:45
Shsohe, you ahve helped me out so often before, i have obs sheets too which i think are fab, will get them to you once scanned tomorrowsmile.x
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By NumberFour on Wed 05-Nov-08 20:52:16
Shoshe, same here re making the obs. I am in Surrey and we have been given Learning Journey packs that set out the EYFS components and more, but I still have not been able to sit down to link the obs with the components.

Pinkchick, what area are you in?

email: judithmarypeck at hotmail dot com
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Illhavethisinsize12 on Wed 05-Nov-08 20:55:03
thats it really, we do it everyday and i tell my parents everything but actually writing it all down and then linking it fgs is really just mind bogoling. fine if you are very academic, im not thick, but this is too much. thanks for any help.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By AbbaFan on Wed 05-Nov-08 21:00:54
I think there is a tick sheet on the EYFS cd-rom.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By saz73 on Thu 06-Nov-08 06:37:23
Any help would be much appreciated. sjemartin at aol dot com
thanks
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Littlefish on Thu 06-Nov-08 07:04:09
If you can't find one, I've got one that I made for my previous job (Full day care nursery).

It's got all the statements from 0-5 with space for each one to be ticked 3 times. No room for comments however, as we used to keep a learning journey book for each child where the evidence was kept. The tick sheet was just that. Somewhere to record coverage and attainment. The children took their learning journeys when they left, but we kept the tick sheet as evidence for Ofsted.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By NumberFour on Thu 06-Nov-08 07:16:49
Lovely idea to keep tick list for Ofsted, Littlefish.
Might use that idea too. Thanks
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By eleanorsmum on Thu 06-Nov-08 08:26:33
could i have a copy too please!
keri dot bradley at tiscali dot co uk
ta grin
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By PinkChick on Thu 06-Nov-08 09:29:19
Hi girls, just scanning!

Number4, im in Cleveland(NE England)
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Illhavethisinsize12 on Thu 06-Nov-08 10:17:48
littlefish, could i have a copy please. j.johnson699@btinternet.com
thanks very much
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By coolj on Thu 06-Nov-08 10:30:00
Hi Pink Ive answered other thread grin
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By PinkChick on Thu 06-Nov-08 10:37:00
got it chick, will resend you these ones tonight with the rest once ive scanned them as little hampster in computer is shatterd sending all those docs at once LOL
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By tulip31 on Thu 06-Nov-08 12:29:42
Pink,

Please could I have a copy as well. tanya at tanyastots dot co dot uk

Many Thanks in advance
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By MrsPuddleduck on Thu 06-Nov-08 12:52:37
What are QED and Tracker books????

I am newly registered and whilst I feel pretty OK with my policies and risk assessments I am REALLY struggling with planning and observations - I need all the help I can get.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By NumberFour on Thu 06-Nov-08 13:07:54
QED is the name of publishers that do amongst other things, Early Years stuff.

Tracker books are books with tick lists in them that help childcare providers keep a list of the child's developments. QED does lots of other stuff too.

If you do an online search you should find it. I would give you a link but I don't know how to do that yet!

Tracker books can be useful but they are not the be all and end all. I have had mine for yonks and have yet to use it!

They are NOT essential and you would not be underperforming in any way or doing any disservice to your kids if you did not use them. smile
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By ayla99 on Thu 06-Nov-08 13:46:12
Just a word of warning if using ticklists - I've heard a lot of negative comments about them, ALLEGEDLY Ofsted don't like them. But there's nothing in EYFS that specifies what form your records should take, so I personally don't think there's anything wrong with ticklists as long just as they are not your only form of record-keeping. I recommend supporting any ticklists you use with lots of photos and some short sentences explaining what the child is doing. I'm thinking a list of ticks probably isn't considered evidence from Ofsted's pov, (in the same way a tick-list risk assessment is no use to Ofsted without adding comments & dates changes have been made etc), whereas photos and written comments, however short, about what the child is doing are clear evidence.

I've found the easiest way to record obs is to look at what I would have written for my old daily diary - G fastened her coat zip all by herself today :-)

Just need to add - PSE - Self Care

And ta-da, you then have a simple observation with a link to EYFS. You don't need pages of noting down every word and action you see, like you have to do for assignments in various courses.

Also recommended is to note "next steps", which for above example could be:

- to continue to encourage G to dress independently
- to enable G to practice with a range of fastenings by providing (list your resources eg, dressing up doll, shoe lace tying toys etc)
or just a list of relevant activities & resources.

Bromley CMA have some useful booklets - one for observations (where you put the date, what you saw, how it links to EYFS and next steps) and a planning book where you can write down the activities you've offered and where you got the idea from (ie link back to your previous obs).

HTH
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Illhavethisinsize12 on Thu 06-Nov-08 20:21:26
thats what i mean. a few more examples please. it might even start to sink in. wheres that wine gone
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By KatyMac on Thu 06-Nov-08 20:23:37
Ayla - exactly how I do it - it isn't hard, it's just getting used to remembering
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Illhavethisinsize12 on Thu 06-Nov-08 20:30:06
and one a month is ok? i would do the tracker books along side these if they are ok.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By KatyMac on Thu 06-Nov-08 20:35:49
I do 'about' one a week - but sometimes I do 3 in a day - they really don't take long
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By KatyMac on Thu 06-Nov-08 20:39:00
Then I might not do one for a few weeks - it is all child led
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Littlefish on Thu 06-Nov-08 20:56:12
I agree with Ayla re. only using ticklists. However, if they're used in conjuction with photos and short observation notes, they can be really useful.

I'll send e-mails tonight to the people who asked for them.

Let me know if you think they would be useful, and I will offer them to my dd's childminder. She's so wonderful, and I don't want her to think I'm interfering.

I've only used them in a nursery setting, so I'd be interested in your feedback
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Littlefish on Thu 06-Nov-08 20:59:38
I've just looked at my document, and there is a small space for comments under each section.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By lucylocketmacc on Thu 20-Nov-08 18:37:46
There are lots of sample observations on the Bromley CMA website :-)
http://www.bromleycma.org.uk/eyfs/personal.html

http://www.bromleycma.org.uk/eyfs/comms.html

http://www.bromleycma.org.uk/eyfs/problem.html

http://www.bromleycma.org.uk/eyfs/knowledge.ht ml

http://www.bromleycma.org.uk/eyfs/physical.html

http://www.bromleycma.org.uk/eyfs/creatived ev.html


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