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Light relief- mothers help for £3 an hour?!

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grobagsforever Fri 13-Jun-14 23:09:43

Following my other thread I've been browsing adverts on gum tree to get an idea of salary range. This one is a real gem www.gumtree.com/p/jobs/au-pairmothers-help-needed-150-per-week-plus-100-bonus/1067705849.

Seriously? All housework? 12 hour days?

fluffymouse Fri 13-Jun-14 23:18:36

Shocking. I have messaged them saying how exploitative it is, and ultimately detrimental to their children. Can it be reported?

grobagsforever Fri 13-Jun-14 23:30:49

I messages them and reported it. They basically want a slave!

fluffymouse Fri 13-Jun-14 23:37:37

Good for you. I couldn't see where to report it from my mobile.

jnl0612 Sat 14-Jun-14 02:48:56

Good god shock

grobagsforever Sat 14-Jun-14 08:00:40

Yeah. I feel like a dream potential employer now!

Cindy34 Sat 14-Jun-14 08:09:44

It is also in breach of the Equality Act. Gumtree clearly does not screen ads, as a publisher they are liable for what users post.

Holfin Sat 14-Jun-14 08:18:04

shock I cannot believe people post ads like that !

fluffymouse Sat 14-Jun-14 09:12:46
dietcokeandcadburys Sat 14-Jun-14 09:20:48

fluffy forgive me if I've calculated it wrong but that's only just over £2.50 an hour shock

jnl0612 Sat 14-Jun-14 10:45:30

That ones better than the first... Least they get separate accommodation with all meals etc.. £700 plus a place to live and all meals isn't too bad I know I don't have £700 a month spare cash

fluffymouse Sat 14-Jun-14 12:03:42

Jnl but I bet you get weekends off and don't work 12 hour days 5 days a week.

grobagsforever Sat 14-Jun-14 14:18:08

Shocking. Aren't AP's prohibited from sole care/more than 25 hours?

mrswishywashy Sat 14-Jun-14 14:32:06

No regulations other than employment ones as an au pair in the uk. There isn't even an au pair visa now, the whole system should be far more regulated like in the USA. What annoys me is no matter if you report it is is usually reposted and if you dare write to actual post lister saying it's illegal or unfair then you either get ignored or get a horrible message back. It is one of the reasons that I think the word au pair should not be used in advertisements.

I hope that the two ads above are paying tax as they are over the limit. Live in work needs to be fair and most of the time it is not.

Cindy34 Sat 14-Jun-14 14:59:28

Isn't it more that live-in staff still don't get the same rights as those who live-out? Au-pair, nanny, housekeeper, whatever they call it does not matter, someone living at their employers home is always going to be in a position where their hours are long and low paid.

mrswishywashy Sat 14-Jun-14 17:18:29

The way I understand it is part if the wage as a live in household staff is the living accommodation. The government sets the accommodation rate for this and then this can be taken from minimum wage. Maybe I dreamt this system, if the government doesn't have this as a rule then that's what's a should be. This way it would be much fairer for everyone.

Branleuse Sat 14-Jun-14 17:24:48

theyre au pairs. Minimum wage doesnt apply

SueDNim Sat 14-Jun-14 17:38:21

Can you be an au pair and work 13 hours a day, 5 days a week?

mrswishywashy Sat 14-Jun-14 18:32:34

The uk does not have an au pair programme there fore employment laws should be followed!

fluffymouse Sat 14-Jun-14 19:24:44

Au pairs normally work 25 hours a week, au pair plus up to 35 hours. These are not au pair jobs, they are exploitation.

SueDNim Sat 14-Jun-14 20:53:51

Can you legally employ an 'au pair' like this? Do they have no protection if they meet the 'live as part of your household' rules?

caroldecker Sat 14-Jun-14 20:59:43

Not sure it is exploitation - shared room in London is c£500 a month, all food is £200 a month, so monthly equivilent wage £1,400 a month or c£17k a year

caroldecker Sat 14-Jun-14 21:00:11

Forgot bills, wi-fi, netflix etc

fledermaus Sat 14-Jun-14 21:03:28

£200 a month on food? I don't spend that much for a whole family.

Legally the accommodation offset to minimum wage is about £40 a week.

mrswishywashy Sat 14-Jun-14 21:18:36

I wish the government would sort out the law to make it clearer. The uk does not have an au pair visa or programme therefor employment law should be followed. Quite simple really. Doesn't matter what job title is the point is they should follow the law.

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