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Am I being ripped off?

(22 Posts)
NannyMcphee12 Tue 08-Oct-13 09:15:42

Spoke to a lady yesterday who's interested in me as a nanny

She wants mon-fri 9am-6pm care for a 4 month old baby. She's wanting to pay £800 net per month

I am Ofsted registered, qualified, crb checked & first aid trained with 1 years experience as a nanny

Am i being ripped off? The thought of £800 a month sounds good as I've been without a job for months.

eeyore12 Tue 08-Oct-13 09:26:03

Using mr anchovys calculator that works out at £3.82 a hour gross well below minimum wage!!!!! £978 would be the min net wage for someone aged 18-20 and it would be £1167 net for s

eeyore12 Tue 08-Oct-13 09:27:05

Someone aged over 20 so she is looking to pay nearly just over £350 net a m

eeyore12 Tue 08-Oct-13 09:28:45

Sorry silly phone

Month less than min wage, that is if it is live out post.

Suggest you show her the min wage guidelines and if you are happy with those then agree that but I would look for nearer at least £7 gross a hr.

NannyMcphee12 Tue 08-Oct-13 09:29:14

How did you get £3 something gross an hour?
I just looked and £4.05 or £37 a day

IrisWildthyme Tue 08-Oct-13 09:30:16

Assuming that they are not intending to fiddle the tax man and will be sorting out all the PAYE and NI contributions correctly, £800 net per month is approx £13,900 per year gross salary.

Assuming you'd be getting approx 4 weeks paid leave per year, that is £6.44 per hour - only just above minimum wage - because that's a 45 hour working week you've got there which is pretty tough!

It's a bit of a better deal if you are getting meals, accommodation or any other perks with the job. However, it's pretty low really.

But if you don't have any other options, it's better than nothing isn't it? I'd keep looking though if I were you.

lovelynannytobe Tue 08-Oct-13 09:30:37

It's around £4.25/h gross. If it's live out it is illegal as it is below NMW. Maybe she's not aware she needs to pay at least NMW.

NannyMcphee12 Tue 08-Oct-13 09:31:39

It's a live out job.

Think I may give this one a miss

NannyMcphee12 Tue 08-Oct-13 09:32:41

When I spoke to her I said that it's very low for a nanny and she said her maternity nanny took that pay! shock

IrisWildthyme Tue 08-Oct-13 09:32:53

Weird how many different calculations there are for what £800p/m net is equivalent to as an hourly wage!

IrisWildthyme Tue 08-Oct-13 09:39:41

(just looked at mine again and realised I got a few bits wrong!
My new calc comes out at £4.42 p/h gross - WELL below NMW
- sorry!)

Blondeshavemorefun Tue 08-Oct-13 09:41:45

Totally ripped off and illegal as under nmw

She wants to pay £4.25gross

That under £10k gross a year

NannyMcphee12 Tue 08-Oct-13 09:43:55

Thanks a all. I knew my instinct was right.

IrisWildthyme Tue 08-Oct-13 09:50:55

Good luck in the job hunt. For that length of working week you should be asking for about £1150p/m net (minimum wage would be around £1050p/m net but you have skills, experience and training!) The right job will come by sooner or later...

eeyore12 Tue 08-Oct-13 10:18:18

Sorry yes £4.25 was doing a 50 hr week. Was trying to do it while cuddling my little one to sleep after a long night!

ChippingInNeedsSleepAndCoffee Tue 08-Oct-13 10:39:34

Would you be taking DD with you?

nannynick Tue 08-Oct-13 10:42:53

I get £4.25 gross per hour, based on 45 hour week, 944L taxcode.
With listentotaxman I can get it to £191.80 per week gross, so £4.26 per hour.

It is strange how there are different figures but then maybe not that surprising as it is doing Net to Gross which is a bit of a pain and not an exact science.

Surprised that a maternity nurse would do £800 a month, maybe they did not do many hours.

Move on, find employers who talk Gross and talk reasonable salary. Given you do not have much experience you may start quite low, maybe as low as £7 gross an hour but it depends on location. I would say aim for £8 gross, higher if in a city. If you have lots of other childcare experience then aim higher still.

Karoleann Tue 08-Oct-13 14:55:33

I think you're near me (we're near beaconsfield) and that's ridiculously low for the area. I pay my 17 year old after school mother's help 7/hour. Most of the nannies at school are on £12/gross per hour.

I'm amazed you haven't found something yet.....are you looking to bring your own child with you, or do you not have a car, or are you only looking for full time?
I'm more than happy to have a look at your cv (I've done lots of recruitment before) you can pm me and I'll send you my email address.

NannyMcphee12 Tue 08-Oct-13 18:26:55

I drive, have no children, am pretty flexible & happy to travel.

Full time would be best but I'm willing to take part time

Karoleann Wed 09-Oct-13 12:17:48

Received pm - will have a look!

TheDoctrineOfSnatch Thu 10-Oct-13 19:15:30

Maternity nurse was probably doing very different hours, was maybe living in and I guess wouldn't have had sole care, which might make a difference too.

It's worth talking to her about the NMW stuff as I'm sure she won't get anyone at that rate!

Blondeshavemorefun Thu 10-Oct-13 20:17:11

Mat nurses earn anything from £150/200ph 24hrs

So maybe she had one for one night a week for a month

Or £800 is a weeks pay for one !!

Don't give up. Something will turn up

I get a lot of temp work through TINIES emergency care - are you with them?

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