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How much should I pay my 24/7 childminder?

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Mazzledazzle Sat 04-May-13 12:31:16

My childminder charges £3.75 ph pc (so I pay £7.50 oh for 2 DC).

DH and I are going away for 5 days Mon - Fri, leaving our 2 DC with family, but due to an emergency this is no longer an option.

Luckily my fabulous childminder has agreed to let our DC stay with her and her DH for 5 nights, which works out at 105 hours!

I hate talking about money - I usually pay her in advance for the month and round it up to the nearest tenner.

How do I bring up the subject of payment? And how much should I expect to pay her?

Tia

Sheshelob Tue 14-May-13 20:35:56

My post made no sense!

Righteous indignation + exhaustion = nonsense.

Précis: pay her!

<returns to high horse>

Sheshelob Tue 14-May-13 20:34:25

Wow.

Even if she is too generous stupid to waive a fee, you should insist, out of common decency - for the booked hours AND the overnights. She is looking after your children and it is a business arrangement. Favours do no-one any favours. Keep it formal - then everyone knows where they stand.

ReetPetit Tue 14-May-13 20:30:55

Some people are just me, me, me. Fancy sunning it up while someone else looks after your kids for 105 hrs all for a voucher! I think i've seen it all now, really shocking confused

kylesmybaby Tue 14-May-13 20:23:17

i'm totally shocked you are thinking of just buying her a voucher. its the sort of stupid thing i would say when i dont really mean it. as you said neither of you talk money. your reactions shocking. who is going to pay for what it costs her to have them for the week. you were thinking £600 so at least give her £400. in an envelope like you usually do.

ReetPetit Tue 14-May-13 20:14:34

Gosh, i do hope so or that could have been extremely embarassing! I can't believe anyone of sane mind would think their cm would offer to have their 2 dc 24 hrs for 5 days for free!! Even giving up a full weeks wages - dear god, thats crazy.

letseatgrandma Tue 14-May-13 18:54:25

Please tell me you have realised she didn't mean 'don't pay me at all'??!

PinkCanary Wed 08-May-13 23:48:47

Clause 3.76 in the EYFS stipulates that you DO need to inform Ofsted of your intention to provide overnight care, however you no longer need to wait for them to validate it. You just need the relevant risk assessments in place. I would imagine without ofsted records showing the intention any insurance policy would be invalidated. I personally wouldn't take the risk for the sake of a quick phone call / email. A minder local to me is in prison due to an accidental child death which occurred overnight.

looneytune Wed 08-May-13 23:11:45

If I'd have texted that in this situation I would most definitely have meant the extra hours were free, I would NOT be loosing out on my usual income and that's with families who have been with me 6 years and who I've become very close to - I still have bills to pay!

But yes, I think it would be nice to give an amount as a thank you anyway as this i a big thing.

BackforGood Wed 08-May-13 22:07:56

I too would read that as "the extra hours can be free", but I presume most people would still get a very generous set of vouchers for her to do that.

ReetPetit Wed 08-May-13 21:23:02

i don't think we have to be registered for overnight care anymore PinkCanary confused i'm pretty sure that's what i was told at my last inspection and my certificate no longer makes any mention of overnight care.

PinkCanary Wed 08-May-13 19:47:04

Is she registered for overnight care? If not then she isn't legally allowed to charge. (Bear in mind that insurance wont be valid either during those hours) It would have to be done on a voluntary basis. Although I would agree that some form of thank you is in order. And I suspect that when she said free she was just referring to the additional hours, as its going to cost her for food etc.

HotCrossPun Wed 08-May-13 19:08:59

She is going to look after your 2 children, day and night, for 5 days...for FREE?

That doesn't make any sense, she is going to lose 5 days of wages and 5 days of her free time as a favour?

I'd clarify with her what she means.

Floggingmolly Wed 08-May-13 18:54:25

I'd be willing to bet you've misunderstood, anyway.
Why would she decide to forego payment for the usual hours she'd be looking after them anyway, as well as have them overnight?
Btw, you're leaving them at home as childcare is cheaper than plane tickets? Seriously? hmm.

tomorowisanotherday Wed 08-May-13 18:47:14

you should pay her. Never mind what she says. You have a business arrangement.

suppose something happens while they are at her house? they wont be covered if they are not 'on the clock'.

I think you are taking advantage of her. she probably has one eye on your continued business.

Blondeshavemorefun Wed 08-May-13 18:42:41

as others have said

doing it for free shock

you Must pay her for her usual hours, sure she meant maybe the evenings are free

but even 15hrs of free childcare a day is very generous, let alone for 5 days

i really think you need to pay her something for the extra hours

minderjinx Wed 08-May-13 18:32:47

You can't seriously mean not to pay her. You can hardly say you can't afford it if you can afford to go on holiday.

Floggingmolly Wed 08-May-13 18:17:21

Why should she take a loss on this? confused You should pay her at least the normal rate...

lucamom Wed 08-May-13 18:12:40

Sorry if I've missed it up thread, but why aren't the kids going on the holiday with you? X

MustTidyUpMustTidyUp Wed 08-May-13 18:10:31

What they said ^ you really should pay her.

Wishihadabs Wed 08-May-13 18:06:25

if she doesn't want payment I would split the difference give her something like £300 unless you realy can't afford it !

Wishihadabs Wed 08-May-13 18:04:21

Our nanny/house keeper has done this (but in my house). We pay her till midnight then £20 sleepover fee. Works out about £150 per 24 hours (they are at school in the day though).

pooka Wed 08-May-13 17:58:06

Absolutely pay the standard hours! And add on extra as thank you for the massive favour she's doing for you.

Cloverer Wed 08-May-13 17:52:24

I would at least pay her the normal hours, plus £100 as a thankyou (and wine, chocs and flowers!).

ReetPetit Wed 08-May-13 17:45:23

No way! I would want clarification on that and tbh as a parent i would be uncomfortable with someone looking after my kids 24/7 for a week for free. You should at least pay her normal day rate and something for the night times. I think this could ruin your working relationship. If i were in your shoes i would say thankyou for your kind offer but we will pay you. Its the decent and right thing to do imo.

MrsHiddleston Wed 08-May-13 17:25:21

Are you sure she doesn't mean the nights are free... I think you should still pay her for the usual childminding hours. She shouldn't lose money.

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