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were we asking too much?(38 Posts)
Our temporary nanny resigned yesterday. She said she was unhappy that she was doing housework whilst DS was at preschool and that the house was always a bit messy.
Although I will admit to not being the most organised family, our home is not dirty or particularly messy. We have 4 DC, 2 dogs and DH and I. The worst that the kitchen gets is a pan or 2 and plates from the last meal made.
We explained that it was a 5 week placement and that as DS was at preschool for 3 hours every afternoon we would like her to do a bit of laundry and either a bit of a tidy or chucking a vacuum around after she had her lunch hour. She seemed happy with this at interview and until she resigned yesterday seemed happy with the job.
She also asked that we pay her early yesterday morning as she had DDs going out (due to be paid on Friday). We feel utterly let down but also wanted to make sure we weren't askig too much so we don't run into this problem again.
No a nanny takes time when they can as a break. This nanny had 3 hours without child so it makes sense to take a break then if possible.
I work 7am-7pm, are you suggesting it would be a luxury for me to sit down 30 mins? I don't have any charges at nursery so they are home full time. When they nap however yes I do try to take a hour as a break. Sometimes my 'break' with be a drink sitting down with toddler on the sofa and that's the closest I get that day.
I don't think many jobs expect you to work solidly with no break at all.
A nanny getting a 1 hour break? That's a luxury.
most nannies wouldn't do a cleaners job
3 hrs out of school. 15 mins there and back (might only be 3 min walk but they need coats sorting, teachers talk, children chat to friends)
so 2.5 hours. nanny takes 1 hr break as only time in the day as no lunch break
so 1.5 hrs.
that time as a nanny would be to sort childrens washing (fair amount with 4 children). get dinner ready/prepped for that evening, tidy toys/bedrooms.
leaving very little time left if any. any spare time would be baking for childrens school lunches/snacks, picking up some milk, sewing on a name badge, arranging activity for that afternoon etc...
Unlucky hire, as others say it's her that's the problem, if she was from an agency I would complain, if not just chalk it up to experience.
Not good that she left especially since you had outlined the job description at interview.
But, I'd never take on another nanny position that involves cleaning! I'd happily move furniture around the kids room to clean skirtings etc but I'd never do parent associated cleaning.
Nannies are there to look after the children and do any duties associated with the kids, not to wash the parents dishes from the night before. Mothers helps are slightly different but any job in the house can be happily done by nanny/mothers help as long as its discussed at interview stage.
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errh - if you can 'notice' cleaning in you kitchen and you regard tiles and tea canisters as 'deep' cleaning - then your idea of clean and tidy is very different from mine and probably her's. I think with 4 kids and full time jobs what you find ok and just a bit messy may be - quite messy and untidy ;0
So she did clean
Maybe she misunderstood how much you wanted her to clean and that's why she left
Shame she didn't discuss it with you
It sounds like some serious miscommunication. You need to spell out the specific tasks eg unstacking/restacking the dishwasher. You obviously have very different ideas of tidying and cleaning. that you can tell where she's cleaned.
Maybe she misunderstood? Her idea of a bit of cleaning may be radically different to yours. It's a shame she couldn't talk about it openly with you though.
Childcare.co.uk is a good website to use.
I have just looked in my kitchen and realised she has deep cleaned bits. Shelves, tiles, tea and coffee canisters. Why would she do that? We would never have asked her. Very odd.
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Did you say light housework at interview, or did you say that you expect two of the three hours that your DC are in alternate childcare to be spent hoovering/wiping/emptying etc?
It might be that your idea of light housework and there's was very different. Or it might be that they would prefer a full day with kids rather than cleaning in the middle of the day - I'd rather be planning activities and researching classes and lessons than hoovering!
I'm not sure I'd ask a nanny to do none child related stuff, unless it was emptying the dishwasher - BUT you did make it clear that that was part of the role before employing her and you were paying her for a lunch break - most employees don't usually have that.
I also suspect she's got another job. Have a look on childcare.co.uk tonight and phone round, I'm sure you can get someone for next week, its probably a little easier getting someone for two weeks rather than 5.
Better luck next time x
You were up front about the cleaning - get over it people. SOME nannies do clean and are happy with that. What other job do you expect to get paid to sit on your butt and do nothing for hours on end.
DRIVES ME INSANE as you can tell!
No I don't think you were asking much, and it is also very strange just to resign like that. Clearly there are things going on with the nanny that you don't and probably won't know about. I wouldn't waste your time thinking about what/how it went wrong, just concentrate on looking forwards!
I don't see any problem with what you are expecting then! I am sure you will be able to find someone new willing to do that. goodluck
Preschool is 5 minutes away. There's a 3 hour gap, 1 hour is for lunch break then the rest of the time is for whatever really. Maybe a load of laundry, sort tea for the dc and either give the kitchen a quick tidy, load or unload dishwasher and wipe sides. Older DC do their own rooms and put own laundry away. Once a week we do a cleaning session with the dc so they dust and maybe vacuum and sort bedrooms, we will clean the bathroom and mop the hard floors and sort paperwork etc.
was there cleaning for the whole 3 hours whilst dc were at nursery? generally after drop off and pick up is factored in there is about 2.5 hours left for me to play with .After i drop child at nursery i take 1.5 hours to do laundry,clean childrens bedroom,plan children's tea,make lunch for nursery child and general tidy up from breakfast and unload the dishwasher. i do take an hour in the morning for myself,sometimes i watch telly or sometimes i meet a friend for a drink at the cafe. i dont get a lunch break so generally feel im entilted to relax for an hour a day.
Of course we can manage the cleaning ourselves, we usually do! What should a nanny be doing whilst they are all at school/preschool?
Hmm very unprofessional for her to leave with just a few weeks to go! I'm a nanny and am happy to do some light housework if no children are at home-otherwise what is she supposed to do for 3 hours?! Perhaps there was some misunderstanding but I don't think you were asking too much
sounds to me that she had a better job offer and left - tho if she knew it was 5 weeks and 2/3 left then surely another job would wait for her
thats how i work, and i temp - tho fwiw i wouldnt be happy doing the cleaning etc while your dc was at school (as someone pointed out nannies dont generally clean) - but if you said that at the time of the interview .......
did you get her from an agency, if so complain and get fee back
and as you need someone now, i wouldnt make the cleaning an issue, you need childcare and help now, cleaning may put off some (like me) and tbh sure you and dh can manage between yourselves and ask your older 3 to help
But we were clear at the interview that although we appreciate that nannys don't normally do cleaning as there were 3 hours a day with no kids to look after we expected a small amount of housework to be done. Just tidying the kitchen or a quick vacuum, not scrubbing toilets or floors.
She probably has another job to go to but for the next nanny/au pair you hire I think it would help if you clearly defined the tasks at the outset.
You are probably going to have to become more organised. In my experience a house with four children and two dogs would generally be messier and dirtier than I'm used to unless the household are very conscientious about cleaning, she may well have felt you were asking too much but didn't know how to say it.
I think (although have no experience) that au pairs are more likely to do a bit of the general household stuff and some simple child care. A nanny usually only does chores directly related to the children, so their laundry but not general household laundry and tidying the children's room, play room or nursery but not general cleaning.
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