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Babysitter refused to bath the children at bed time - is this standard?(78 Posts)
Babysitter we have had several times before (from an agency) said she had checked and she wasn't allowed to give the children their bath at bed time.
Children are 2 and 4. Was I being unreasonable to expect this?
We were going out just before 6, so arranged for babysitter to arrive at 5:30 so we could all finish the kids tea together, then hand them over for the usual bath and bed time routine.
Anyone else have experience of the bath question?
I think it totally depends. We have a couple of teenagers we pay £5-6 p/h. No way do I expect them to bath/ferry from activities or supervise homework. I use them for relative late (kids already in pjs) local sitting not on a school night. Our housekeeper also babysit s as did our nanny (when we had one) I pay her £10p/h she is basically in loco parentis and will do food/bathing/homework supervision. We use her for week nights when we are both working late or for e.g.; going to parents evening. She will also do overnights if it is going to be after midnight, again something I wouldn't ask he teens to do. I did teen sitting aged 12 upwards and agency sitting as student aged 19-25 I certainly bathed and fed children when working for the agency. Not as a teenager earning £2.50 p/h (long time ago)
If I am paying a baby sitter I expect her, or him, to work for the money. If my children need a bath then I'm paying for that to be done.
If I employ a baby-sitter I am the employer and the baby-sitter should do what I ask relating to the children.
A bath is an important part of many children's routine and they should not miss out because a baby-sitter will not do it.
You are lucky you have family to ask - not everyone does! If anything the children complain that I make their baths too tepid and shallow!
This thread has really got me thinking. I've never thought of being asked to do bath and hair wash as any different to hearing children read or supervising homework or piano etc essentially. I always try to accommodate the family's requirements (unless obviously it is being asked to do something like pick them up from an activity in the car without their booster seat etc.) I know the families really well and I know they trust me and my judgement (what to do if they suddenly feel unwell/have a nightmare etc) completely.
If I was going away for a weekend I would only ever ask family to babysit. However I wouldn't go on holiday without my dd. I had her, she is my responsibility and leaving her for a weekend is not something I consider doing.
A shower at a leisure centre is slightly different 1) the temperature is set and it would not be able to scald a child and 2) it is not pooled water in a shower it drains away
I think of a babysitter as literally someone to keep an eye on the kids, givevthem supper, settle them into bed, check they're ok. I'd never expect them to bathe them - or give them a proper meal, or supervise their homework or any of those parental jobs that a nanny would do.
£9-10 is the going rate for a babysitter round here too (one reason for using them for a short period when the kids are pretty much in bed anyway!)
Blondeshavemorefun - so do I! Lots of overnights and weekends for families with no grandparents to ask. Mainly for couples enjoying some time away together without their children.
I often work weekends (for nice families that appreciate me)
Can be for various reasons
Parents need to work
Parents ill/had operation so can't look after children
Parents at child free wedding
Or god forbid a parent actually wanting to go away with their partner and have some 'me' child free time
Parents having a dirty weekend away
Plus have done 7/10days and parents gone on holiday without their children
If you have no gp's near or Friends etc then you come to rely on a nanny / weekend person
Obv you wouldn't just leave your children for days on end at the beginning - well some parents have but you get to know and trust the nanny
I really think I'm in a different world. Aside from the fact that sitters.co.uk are clearly NOT nationwide (and require me to sign up to find out exactly how far away the "nearest" sitters are) I would, on reflection, never dream of using someone randomly found from an agency to look after my children. And who would leave their children with a babysitter for a whole weekend?
I can see why you may not ask a teenager though.
What about if you did a whole weekend of babysitting? Or you took children to their swimming lesson and had to supervise their shower afterwards? I would never think to say no to the families I babysit for if they asked me to supervise bath time. I just get on with it in the same way I do collection from activities, reading books, oversee piano playing, homework, bedtime stories...
I would never ask a babysitter to bath, I'd be more concerned about my 2 and 4 year old potentially drowning or getting scalded if they were left alone/played with hot tap. I feel its to much responsibility to place on the sitter (especially teenagers) if they are not used to your children.
This doesn't mean I wouldn't trust them looking after my child or seeing them naked, I just get overly concerned where water is involved.
I don't think money issue comes into it. I charge £10ph and get asked to babysit tons and apart from the family I mentioned before (and I refuse to bath young children late at night) or my perm family - then I don't bath when I babysit
Babysitting is generally either the children are in bed already - or are ready for bed - ie in pj's
Has been the odd one or two that aren't ready but the parents wouldn't expect me to bath - they just miss it for that night
Course I read stories / or make them up if need be
Sitters are nationwide, sitters.co.uk. You pay a quarterly fee I believe and then a booking fee and pay babysitter directly. You book and the most local babysitters get a text and the first to reply will get your booking unless you specifically request a babysitter and then they get first refusal. In my area (Suffolk) hourly rate is £6.20. Babysitters have to have worked with children for 2 years, provide 2 references, have crb check and be first aid qualified and I had an interview including questions about looking after children.
I think I might live in a slightly different world... but thanks I can try I suppose.
Word of mouth. Ask your friends for the contact details of their babysitters. So long as you don't go out loads, I'm sure they will be happy to do this for you.
OK this is totally random I know, but we have never once in 6 years had a babysitter. I don't like to ask a friend, parents live miles away, not keen on using some local kid and I had no idea there was such a thing as a professional babysitter. Are these around everywhere or only the town and cities? How do I find one please? <nervous twitch>
I also babysit extensively and am often asked to bathe the children. Maybe it's because I'm older and I too charge up to ten pounds per hour.
I babysit for sitters and have only ever been asked to bathe children once. They are usually in pyjamas or old enough to eat into pyjamas themselves. I would happily bathe a 2 and 4 year old. If you want them bathed and the babysitter doesn't want to then find another babysitter. I totally agree that if you're happy to leave them with a person you should be happy for them to bathe your children. I'm a childminder and change nappies every day, don't even think about it. Having said that I think I'm quite relaxed about nakedness and was shocked today at the reaction of the 9, 8 and 5 year olds I was minding when I left 2yo ds2 without his pants while I got a dry pair as he didn't quite make it to the toilet!
I do agree its more work and babysitting for me is pretty low paid when you add travel costs and time into the equation. I much prefer babysitting jobs where the children are in bed and all I do is watch tv
jennyB- guess you don't go out much then? 10 ukp an hour for a baby sitter! Add the cost of cinema tickets and a meal and do you get any change from £100? Even the "nature granny" who babysits round here only asks for 5 an hour, the teenagers will sit for 10-15 for an evening. They will all read stories, but I don't expect bathing.
Bathing, IMHO, is in the remit of a nanny, or maybe an overnight childminder.
Would never expect a baby sitter who was not family to bath my children. I used to baby sit my cousin so would bath her but wouldn't be keen on bathing "a stangers" child myself.
I'm really at this thread. I would always expect a babysitter to do the full bath/bed routine. Do you all expect your DCs to go without a story at bedtime too? I've never, ever come across a babysitter who wouldn't/couldn't do the whole lot, and if I did, they wouldn't be back!
That said, I've always paid £8 - £10 an hour plus a bit extra. Job description doesn't come in to it, it's looking after the children in my stead. If you're doing it from 5.30, then there's no way they'd be in their PJs yet.
Same would go if I were to do it for a friend for free though. I'd expect to do everything they'd normally do at that time. So not completely about the money. In fact ALL about the children.
As the babysitting is starting so early in the evening I don't think its an unreasonable request if a bath is part of their normal routine before bed. However, if this agency have made a rule that it can't be done you'll need to find another agency or a local babysitter you can build a direct relationship with. Some agencies charge a higher daycare rate before a certain time (e.g. before 6pm), does yours? We use Sitters and they do this. If so I would say they are assuming that more work is involved earlier in the day rather than just babysitting. Generally when it is a one-off babysitter I wouldn't ask them to do the bath but if I got someone for daytime hours as well as the evening I wouldn't consider it unreasonable to ask them to do the normal routine stuff that is done in those hours. If they refused to do the bath though I wouldn't worry about it for one night - more of a nice-to-have than an essential.
I have nannied and babysat and I never bathed children I was babysitting, unless I was working for that family as a nanny at that given time.
Years ago I used to babysit and was never asked to bath the children. I've never heard of it (or of feeding the child) as part of a babysitter's duties.
Baby sitters don't bath kids normally "who tells you this stuff"...well the babysitter has told you!
Kids don't need a bath every day. Mine have twice a week.
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