Argh argh... staring down the barrel of induction with back-to-back baby

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CountBapula Sat 22-Mar-14 08:02:06

I'm 41+3 with DS2. Had a sweep at my 41-week appointment and it did nothing (except I nearly fainted blush). They said head was right down and my cervix was central, but nothing's really happened since then except the odd twinge.

I'm booked for induction Monday night and am terrified. I was induced with DS1 at (I think) 41+4 and it was okay (one pessary, 13-hour labour, ventouse) but it seems that it'll be different this time.

Last time I went in for about 9am, and DS was born about 1am. This time I'll have to go in at 9pm, have the pessary then they'll send DH home. I'm being a wimp but I don't want to stay in hospital alone sad Also they've said I'd have to have continuous monitoring and birth pool not an option - gutting as I really wanted a birth centre water birth this time round. I also have pretty bad SPD, and DS2 is back to back, so I'm terrified of the pain and ending up stuck on my back.

Don't know what I'm asking for, really. Reassurance? Hand holding? Good experiences?

iamusuallybeingunreasonable Sat 22-Mar-14 08:12:39

Oh crap, I'm staring down that barrel with you, had a third sweep yesterday and nothing and induction booked for Wednesday... Absolutely scared witless and will also likely be alone (that worries me less so)... I'm more worried about what happened last time, ie I went 100% non communicative and literally zoned so far out with pain DH thought I was asleep!!

This ones back to back too and potentially bigger than my last and that one ripped me in two shock ... I feel like I want an epidural before I even begin and I had nothing last time, pelvis is killing me but considering some serious physical activities today in the vain hope something gives?!

CountBapula Sat 22-Mar-14 08:32:01

It's so scary, isn't it? Really hope things get going for us soon. I only had gas and air last time and it fecking hurt. I'm thinking similar to you re epidural this time blush

My mother is texting me every day to ask whether I'm in labour hmm

Charingcrossbun Sat 22-Mar-14 08:37:28

Ladies I think I'm closely following you towards the barrel as have my second sweep tomorrow at 10days over and then they will book an induction.
Only advice I have is on the mum front - I replied to texts with a standard; I've not forgotten you and will let you know what this baby's up to as soon as I know? That helped keep family at bay, so far......

CountBapula Sat 22-Mar-14 08:42:15

Welcome charing. Maybe we can all hold each other's hands.

I've only been offered one sweep (short-staffed, apparently...) but in any case I probably wouldn't have another one. I had two with DS1 and nothing happened. Plus I seem to react to then really badly for some reason...

iamusuallybeingunreasonable Sat 22-Mar-14 09:51:52

Ladies, I dare not get excited but my plug has just gone (TMI and revolting!), last time this happened just before contractions started, so I'm off for a day of walking to try and spark something, I'm sending you both the vibes though wink

saffstel Sat 22-Mar-14 10:03:02

Both mine back to back, both induced. With no 1 had v painful back labour but with no 2, she moved round during a 4 hour (eeek!) labour and it was fine! Did that pain-relief free too (not by choice). I'm sure you will be fine! Good luck

CountBapula Sat 22-Mar-14 11:30:40

Ooh iam, how exciting! Fingers crossed.

Thanks saff - am hoping that it'll be relatively quick, at least.

Charingcrossbun Sat 22-Mar-14 11:33:35

Thanks saff - it does help to hear positive stories!
Have no pain at all now, it's glorious sunshine outside but I really don't think I can face all the inevitable "when's it due?" if I venture outside without crying! hmm

iamusuallybeingunreasonable Sat 22-Mar-14 20:04:53

Nothing yet and had a red hot stir fry for lunch and a vindaloo for dinner!! Gripey back ache but I'm holding on to what I saw this morning, yucky as it was!

CountBapula Sat 22-Mar-14 20:19:12

Fingers crossed iam. I've had no signs at all today sad

Mummyk1982 Sat 22-Mar-14 20:29:18

I'm not as overdue as you, only 40+3 but feeling like nothing is moving and nothing will move and that this baby will be there forever. I don't want to be induced it's against everything I stood for in this pregnancy, I didn't even want sweeps but gave in to one the other day cos I'm so fed up- only made me more fed up cos cervix so high and posterior they couldn't do it,
Just had a proper fed up tearful moment- I just want my body to do this on its own. Having had another sweep booked and my firms completed and sitting with the admin ppl already for induction I just feel hopeless.
Ironically baby has been in perfect position throughout pregnancy and had been 2-3/5 engaged for the last 4 weeks. Come on baby!!!!!

iamusuallybeingunreasonable Sat 22-Mar-14 20:33:03

Urgh!!! These babies!! I mean they must think we are great hosts, but boy oh boy am I sick of my pelvis feeling like its on fire and it's come to something when you are willing on the thought of being in agony!

PenguinsEatSpinach Sat 22-Mar-14 20:45:56

Do you want some tips? I've not been through induction, but I've been through two back to back labours, one on the drip? I'm not an expert or anything, but here's what I know.

I would focus personally on trying to get the back into a better position. You have a 'proven cervix' and you could easily be one of those women who labours easily with the pessary, particularly if you can get the baby in a good position.

Have a look on the spinning babies website and try some inversions. Also spend as much time as you can over tomorrow on your hands and knees or leaning forward over a birth ball. Is there any way you can go swimming tomorrow - a good long period bump down (very gentle swimming!) might help him turn.

Second, flat on your back is the worst position for a baby to turn. When you go in for induction, try and talk to them about what options are available. Can they, for example, set you up on the monitor in such a way as to allow you some movement kneeling on the bed, bouncing on a ball, etc. Epidural is great, and when I went on the drip it was the right decision, but flat on my back also meant (I think) that my DD1 had little chance of shifting position. Gravity was encouraging her to stay where she was.

Thirdly, if you want an epidural for the drip, make them do it in that order. I was astonished how quickly an anaesthetist was found when I said that I wasn't letting them put the drip in until I'd been set up. The other way round is not so good if your epidural is then delayed and you really need it!

Oh, and the overdue texts are hideous aren't they? I'm on no. 3 and have been 8 and 9 days over both previous times, so this time the due date is a total secret. Only known to my mother and DH. Literally no one else outside the medical staff. No friends, not MIL, no one. They have all been given rough dates, but nothing that will allow them to pester!

Charingcrossbun Sat 22-Mar-14 21:03:34

Thanks penguin!
Hang in there ladies these babies will come out eventually! My back aches and my baby was moving so much today it made me vomit but I'm determined not to get too excited as I felt so disappointed and upset this morning having got excited last night and then nothing...again! wink

PenguinsEatSpinach Sat 22-Mar-14 21:14:57

Is it your first Charing? How exciting!

The only other piece of advice I have is if you go into labour naturally, be cautious about suggestions of ARM if things seem to be going slowly. I found out after DD1 that this is often considered pretty bad practice as a standard approach in early labour with a back to back baby (obviously there are fact specific circumstances where it will be a good idea). A baby can turn far more easily in a bag of water than without, so unless there is a good reason to break your waters, doing so just to try and 'get things moving a bit more' can do more harm than good.

Charingcrossbun Sat 22-Mar-14 21:22:15

Thanks! It is my first and it is really exciting although it's hard to keep focused on that at the moment.
I'm really surprised by how emotional being so overdue has made me!

PenguinsEatSpinach Sat 22-Mar-14 21:29:02

It does that to you!

After two overdue I have assumed that I will go over (to the extent that I have done naff all preparation for the baby, despite being theoretically nearly 36 weeks as, in my head, I have 5-6 weeks to go!). The last twice I've found it really hard and analysed every twinge.

CountBapula Sat 22-Mar-14 22:28:24

Thanks Penguins - great tips there. Will keep all that in mind.

I had a proper weepy moment on DH's shoulder earlier blush We're now watching Bill Bailey on DVD to try and cheer me up. DH gave me a lovely foot massage that made the baby go crazy - my stomach looked like a bag of excited kittens for a while there...

SpinningFates Sat 22-Mar-14 22:34:08

Count - the hospital can offer you continous monitoring- but you do not have to accept it. Your body. Your choice.

I second the "no drip until I get an epidural".

Good Luck

iamusuallybeingunreasonable Sun 23-Mar-14 07:54:16

Nothing!! How depressing..

I third no drip til epidural as well after last time, they have me synto to augment me as I was slowing down (not sure how a first labour that takes 7 hours start to finish is slow) but once that synto drip was on I was in agony and lo and behold by the time they examined me again it was too late for an epidural - I wasn't best pleased

CountBapula Sun 23-Mar-14 08:16:03

Sorry to hear that, iam... Keep the faith! And thanks for all the tips, everyone. I've written everything down as a kind of induction birth plan.

In lots of pain this morning as baby seems to have his foot jammed under my left rib... hmm

Charingcrossbun Sun 23-Mar-14 12:50:33

We'll get there ladies! My induction is booked for Tuesday morning. Midwife did sweep today and was super super positive (she said she could feel the babies hair!!!) but I'm determined not to get my hopes up!
4 cm dialated, 2cm long and thin, fully engaged - I'm not believing any of it until I have a baby in my arms!'wink

Mummyk1982 Sun 23-Mar-14 13:31:48

That sounds great charing, I'm so excited for you and envious at the same time! How did you get a sweep done on a Sunday? If mine doesn't work on Wednesday I'd want one more before induction the following Monday. My midwife only lives at the end of my road, I keep wanting to walk down to her and ask her to do a sweep! :-)

CountBapula Sun 23-Mar-14 14:25:21

Fingers crossed, charing!

Charingcrossbun Sun 23-Mar-14 15:06:53

Mummyk - I know I'm lucky the maternity unit is open 7 days. I love the idea of just knocking on the door of your midwife with a smile and asking for a quick favour!!
Fingers crossed for Monday! wink

caledonianclown Mon 24-Mar-14 14:48:24

Hi ladies, mind if I join you? I'm 40+5 with DC2 and so unbelievably fed up would pretty much do anything to get this baby out! I've had 2 sweeps with another booked for Wednesday and if that doesn't work will be induced a week today. I was all set for a lovely calm water birth at the MLU and hate the thought of induction as I've read some horror stories about how much more painful it can be. I think the advice of epidural then drop is the way forwards!
Does anyone know how I find out about mobile epidurals? Don't like the idea of being stuck on the bed on my back if I can help it but not sure what the alternatives are once epidural is in?

Mummyk1982 Mon 24-Mar-14 16:25:32

Hi calendonian, I'm 40+5 too, sweep on Wednesday with anticipated induction a week today if things don't happen naturally.
I'm dreading the thought of induction as it's totally against what I had planned and I know the chances of intervention are higher BUT, I have been reading positive induction stories (just google it) and it doesn't always have to be painful/worse. It very much seems to depend on pain threshold (which is fairly obvious), and how close you were to natural labour- I guess these are things we won't know til the time.
Not sure about you but I feel exasperated with trying to coax labour on, and with the constant checking by people that you haven't had the baby yet (like it'd be a secret!!). Here's hoping things move on for us over the next week! I like to think of it that we've made it too comfy in there for our little ones!!! :-)

caledonianclown Mon 24-Mar-14 16:50:06

My too mummyk I've pretty much tried everything to bring labour on and nothing is working, have now given up completely with any tricks and am just trying to spend the next week doing nice things to take my mind off it!
I'm getting so many texts and FB messages asking whether anything is happening and I'm trying hard to be polite but really want to tell everyone to sod off and leave me alone! Surely they realise if there was anything to tell I would have told them!!

CountBapula Mon 24-Mar-14 18:42:20

Hi caledonian, sorry to hear you're playing the waiting game too.

I was booked in for induction tonight (41+5) but called last night to ask to postpone it. They said I had to come in and see doc at 11am. Dragged myself to hospital to be told doc isn't there until after 1pm hmm Finally saw her at 2pm after loads of waiting around, by which time I was hopping mad and not in best frame of mind for the discussion hmm

Anyway, the doc seemed to have zero empathy for the fact that I wanted to avoid induction for the second time and couldn't understand why having never been in labour herself and basically acted like I was asking for the moon on a stick. When I got upset about it - I am nearly 42 weeks pg after all, and quite emotional - she told me I 'should put it into perspective - there's a plane missing with 250 people on it' hmm hmm angry

Anyway, upshot is I'm booked for tomorrow night. Bah.

Mummyk1982 Mon 24-Mar-14 19:04:37

That's appalling countbap!! I hope you find the time and energy to put in a complaint!! Funnily enough I've been toying with giving little one an extra day or two if I get to the point of induction- an extra day can't do any harm- but I know I'll get hassle from the hospital about it!
Good for you for standing up for you and your baby though- and I think putting things in to perspective should always be done relative to your own circumstances- and you and your baby are the most important things in your life right now!
Hope things occur naturally for you tonight and that if they don't that your induction goes well tomorrow :-)

CountBapula Mon 24-Mar-14 19:20:06

Thanks Mummyk - I'll definitely report back once DS2 is finally here!

Like caledonian I've basically given up on all the 'tricks' now I'm sure they're all bollocks anyway.

iamusuallybeingunreasonable Mon 24-Mar-14 20:20:10

Fourth sweep today, induction commences Wednesday, had a good old cry this afternoon as it really goes feel fruitless, baby doesn't want to come out and it's destined for induction hmm

iamusuallybeingunreasonable Mon 24-Mar-14 20:22:24

And I'm not doing the deed, eating a curry or bouncing around any more either!! Had enough - cannot believe your doctor said that, talk about irrelevant!!!

Alibabaandthe40nappies Mon 24-Mar-14 20:24:29

This sounds like what I went through with DS1 (first baby). I ended up with an EMCS after nearly 30 hours of fruitless induced labour (he was back to back and presenting all wrong).

Second time around I demanded an elective, no sodding way was I going through that again!

Best of luck for tomorrow x

CountBapula Mon 24-Mar-14 20:39:07

Thanks Alibaba.

iam you poor thing. I totally empathise. I've been in tears myself several times today sad

Oh well, must try and be positive. Watching Mary Berry to try and calm down smile

IdaClair Mon 24-Mar-14 20:47:32

I have great sympathy as I made it to 40+17 with my first. It's a horrible wait, but hang in there, all your babies will be here soon, and it's really only a matter of days before you get to squish newborn cheeks.

Take comfort too it doesn't mean all your babies will be overdue, my second turned up a few days 'early' and surprised everyone smile

I didn't opt for induction on the end, no one is pregnant forever, but it doesn't half seem like it at the end. Best thing to do is whatever you feel like - no curry or pineapple, just curl up with a good book and eat tasty nutritious things you fancy whilst being waited on hand and foot!

exexpat Mon 24-Mar-14 20:56:29

I was booked in for induction with DC2 - back-to-back, big baby, had got to 41+2 with no sign of dilation. I'd had some false labour a week or so earlier, but since then nothing. DC1 had also been back-to-back and big, but had arrived one day early, so I was not used to the wait.

But - my waters broke unexpectedly just as I was getting my hospital bag ready to leave on the morning of the scheduled induction - by the time I got to hospital I was having regular contractions, so no need for induction! Labour went much faster than with DC1, and DC2 was born that afternoon.

So don't give up hope, it may yet happen naturally.

CountBapula Tue 25-Mar-14 08:15:44

Thanks Ida - that's exactly what I did in the end. Nice dinner and a relaxing bath.

exexpat I've heard about that happening to a few people, actually. I'm really quite twingey this morning shock - refusing to believe it could be anything more than BH but hoping it means induction will be quick when it happens.

caledonianclown Tue 25-Mar-14 09:09:28

Good luck for today count hope it all goes well for you! Keep us posted

iamusuallybeingunreasonable Tue 25-Mar-14 09:29:34

Good luck Bap smile

Pregnantagain7 Tue 25-Mar-14 12:47:08

Good luck to everyone I had two inductions both back to back one weighing 10lb8! Both really good positive births no induction is not everyone's first choice for how they would like to give birth but mine were fine much better than I expected and no stitches not even after the 10 pounder! Good luck again smile

Pregnantagain7 Tue 25-Mar-14 12:47:39

Know not no duh!

ProlificPenguin Tue 25-Mar-14 13:05:51

Walking up stairs can put pressure on waters, try a bit of that? My friend was sent away from hospital with an induction booked for next day, then climbed up and down the hospital stairs a few times and waters went on her way back to the car park and baby was on way.

Good luck everyone!!

CountBapula Wed 26-Mar-14 15:11:48

Just a wee update to say DS2 was born early this morning smile

Turns out I was in labour when I last posted. Got to my induction appointment after having mild contractions all day. After a couple of hours' monitoring they found I was 3cm and said I could go to the birth centre (literally made it an hour before their cutoff date - otherwise would have been 42wks and sent to labour ward).

Got in the water around 11:30pm and he was born at 1am, weighing in at a healthy 10lbs 13oz (yes, really) shock shock Just gas and air - no other poking or prodding needed smile and a first-degree tear. He came out the right way up in the end so must have turned during labour.

Fingers crossed for you all whether you're induced or not x

snapple21 Wed 26-Mar-14 15:23:32

My little boy is ten days old. I was booked for induction at 42 weeks and I was so upset as I wanted to to use the pool. He was back to back. I actually woke at 4.30am on induction day contracting mildly - by the time I went to be induced I was 2-3cm and needed the ARM only. I asked for wireless monitoring and got in the pool (but got out again ten mins later didn't like it as things were progressing very fast)

If you don't need the syntocinon drip you should be able to use the pool if your hospital has wireless monitoring.

Good luck ladies, I was so scared of being induced so know how it feels. Hopefully you will start before!

learnasyougo Wed 26-Mar-14 15:53:35

Lovely to hear the good news. It seems eviction notices (threat of induction) don't get in the way of the oxytocin needed for labour then.

I'm also particularly glad to note the sizes of the recent arrivals (10lbs 13oz, wowee!) because I'm expecting a whopper in the next couple of weeks (DS1 now 18months old was 10lbs 5oz, thanks to his father's family trait of piling on the pounds before birth and then not gaining much weight after that - bean poles the lot of them, but hippos at birth).

Enjoy your new squishy babies. thanks

caledonianclown Wed 26-Mar-14 16:13:48

Congratulations Count sounds like a lovely birth!

exexpat Wed 26-Mar-14 16:50:18

Congratulations! Glad to hear he decided to come out without extra encouragement.

And I'm very impressed at all the huge babies. Mine were both only just over 9lbs, and were treated as outsized by the hospital - but then this was in Japan where most babies seem to be around the 5-6lbs mark.

Charingcrossbun Thu 27-Mar-14 05:58:28

Congrats to all so really good news and I know a few days ago it all seemed so impossible!!
The threat of eviction (and a second sweep) worked for me too! I had my baby boy on Monday morning. grin He inherited his day's fashion sense though and decided umbilical cords are this season's snood and came out with it wrapped 3times round his neck. He is doing super super well though and after a scary few days in ICU He's started breast feeding and being a normal happy little boygrin
Got there in the end!!! Soooo looking forward to taking him home now x

CountBapula Thu 27-Mar-14 09:25:19

Wonderful news, charing! Congratulations thanks

iamusuallybeingunreasonable Fri 28-Mar-14 03:26:05

My lovely DS is here, went in for induction at 11am, nothing happened all day after peasant, just about to go to sleep and waters popped on their own, this was at 10pm, contractions started instantly and furiously, begged for epidural... Not a chance, baby born at ten past midnight, beautiful, healthy and cuddled up to me right now smile

iamusuallybeingunreasonable Fri 28-Mar-14 03:26:22

Pessary! Not peasant!!

Mummyk1982 Fri 28-Mar-14 04:52:23

Huge congrats!!! I'm booked for induction on Monday- hoping for an outcome just like yours :-) x

CountBapula Fri 28-Mar-14 06:21:08

Wowzers, iam! That was quick! Congratulations. Hope you're okay.

Best of luck, Mummyk!

iamusuallybeingunreasonable Fri 28-Mar-14 06:50:13

I can feel the oxytocin on this thread!! Yes good luck to those still due x

And congrats to all of my fellow mummies smile

caledonianclown Fri 28-Mar-14 08:04:59

Congratulations iam! I'm also booked for induction on Monday and it's nice to hear it's not all bad!

Charingcrossbun Wed 02-Apr-14 10:00:00

Forgot to say , whilst I was in hospital post birth I was in an antenatal ward (as DS was in NICU). The girl next to me was waiting to be induced and really freaked out about it, someone has told her horrid stories about extra pain as she was desperate to go into labour naturally. Her DP was there and clearly stepped up as I woke up early evening to the noises of what was clearly them have sex behind the curtain!!! In a way it's outrageous but at 40+weeks, in a room with other people and on a single bed I had to be impressed! Nearly wet myself laughing when he whispered"I think I can feel the head with it" wink!!!

CountBapula Wed 02-Apr-14 10:15:08

shock grin

iamusuallybeingunreasonable Wed 02-Apr-14 17:16:13

Oh my word that is revolting!!!!

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