What's your 'overhang' like after 2 Csecs?

(57 Posts)
MolotovCocktail Tue 25-Feb-14 20:29:11

If you have one, that is?

I had an ELCS almost 2y ago and aside from the silvery scar, you would never know.

Dh would like another child. I am leaning towards the idea but am concerned about the effects of a 3rd pg / 2nd CS (dd1 born vaginally in 2009; dd2 ELCS 2012).

I know it's a vain question and there are other concerns re. CS, but this is something that is on my mind.

WeGotAnnie Tue 25-Feb-14 20:31:09

Mine is better after the second then it was after the first, weirdly.

First section they used staples and I had a nasty overhang. Second they stitched me, a good job I'd say, as healed quicker and overhang is minimal now.

olivo Tue 25-Feb-14 20:31:43

My overhang is horrible, but I think it was more from the polyhydramnios that I had with my 2nd pg. I had 2 cs, one emergency and once elective.after first, on I real issue, but now, nearly 5 yrs after no 2, significant overhang, always have to wear tops to cover my trousers and never ever will never ever wear a bikini again.

Mildpanic Tue 25-Feb-14 20:36:36

Oh gosh. Honestly?
Not good news I'm afraid. I have an awful overhang. I am rather overweight though and have had 3 CS now.
I don't think this time is any worse than after the second. I always felt the second CS was sutured "too tight", if that makes sense.
I wouldn't let it put me off though, my 3 dc's make it a rather trivial concern tbh.

I had a man do the first - emcs. A woman, planned csec. Now both were fine but hers was neat tidy and freaking straight.

It wasn't a "go go go" type. More a " I can't go on do it now-tonight" type. Moral of the story as far as I'm concerned? Men can't sew straight.

(Waits for feminist backlash. He didn't. No major panic to excuse him!)

Mine was none the first time but the second I had more stretchy skin I guess and although its still minimal it is there. Can't shift the baggy stomach skin either. I'm slim so it is noticeable.
To be fair tho I haven't really tried as I prefer the mini egg diet.

I've had 3 CS and I don't think it was really any different after any of them, possibly worst after my first - but then I was a fair bit bigger initially. Prior to getting pregnant with no.2 I slimmed back down to normal weight and overhang disappeared. It never really appeared again. Now I don't really have an overhang as such, but a very slight step. A bit more obvious if I'm carrying a bit more weight but pretty much non existent when at my standard size.

Highlystrungmum Tue 25-Feb-14 21:18:26

Pardon me if I sound really stupid but what is an overhang? I'm having an elective section in 2 weeks time!!!:-(

olivo Tue 25-Feb-14 21:20:28

Highly, it is the excess skin that can hang over your wound after a cs.

Highlystrungmum Tue 25-Feb-14 21:35:39

Oh no I didn't realise this happened. I'm terrified now:-0

nilbyname Tue 25-Feb-14 21:38:23

2 sections and no overhang! Just a bit of a wobble from muscle separation.

K999 Tue 25-Feb-14 21:38:47

Have had 2 CS. Overhang awful. And very little (apart from cosmetic surgery) you can do to get rid of it. I hate mine!!

ProbablyCaroline Tue 25-Feb-14 21:42:52

Mine isn't bad at all actually. I've had 2 sections...big babies and one was an emergency. It's more of a bit of extra fat than an overhang...if I DID some excersise it would mostly go.

LydiaLunches Tue 25-Feb-14 21:44:11

I have had 3 natural births, am slim but have an overhang exactly where a cs scar would be, my stomach was flat after 2 so possibly not the cs?

dementedma Tue 25-Feb-14 21:47:24

Ok after 1, there after 2, grim after 3.
The technical term is a gunt.
Between your gut and your.......

Meglet Tue 25-Feb-14 21:48:10

2 CS's and a hysterectomy. No overhang (thin and still have fairly decent abs --that I still whinge about because I can't accept I'm not young anymore--) but the skin does pinch in along the scar. I assume it would start to overhang if I gained weight.

Scar has almost faded though.

Lavenderhoney Tue 25-Feb-14 21:48:18

I have one. I am very slim and exercise a lot. I have had 2 cs. After the first you couldn't really notice, even naked. After the second- well, its there, and I am trying all sorts to get rid of itsmile

There are helpful threads on heresmile

I remember being horrified after my first ( no one told me) and asking the Mw when it would go. She said " never, get used to it".

imip Tue 25-Feb-14 21:48:32

2 sections and no overhang. Small overhang after section three. Seriously huge overhang with cs no. 4.... Grrrrr....

Also with 4th pregnancy I was unable to lose my stomach, never perfectly flat by any means, but now I still look pregnant 2 years later :-(

Meglet Tue 25-Feb-14 21:49:19

demented grin

ExcuseTypos Tue 25-Feb-14 21:58:35

I don't have an overhang.

I've had an EMCS and then an ELCS. I am slim though I don't exercise.

I do think it's down to luck and how good a job the surgeon does.

Oh and I had women surgeons each time.

caketinrosie Tue 25-Feb-14 21:59:14

Mine is vile it's like a deflated balloon. angry I had 2 cs's overhang bad first time worse the second. Stitches first staples second. I put it down to being really short (5ft 2) and mahoosive babies 9lb 3 and 10lb 2. It's the one thing I would remortgage my house to fix. I've tried the nhs route but my doc told me my bellys the same as his wife's so I should be fine to live with. I'm not! <saving hard for tummy tuck> honestly I'm like a before photo in a transform advert. Grim just grim sad

ExcuseTypos Tue 25-Feb-14 22:01:41

It's really sad that lots of women seem to have to put up with this.

BikeRunSki Tue 25-Feb-14 22:02:13

2 sections, no overhang

ListenToTheLady Tue 25-Feb-14 22:03:17

I've had two (relatively calm!) EMCS, both times I had a massive bump, and I'm quite happy with what I've been left with - very neat, low scars and minimal overhang.

It was no different after the first and second time, though my overhang is a bit bigger at the mo because I've gained a bit of weight - but I know from experience that once I'm a healthy weight it will get less noticeable. You can tell when I'm naked, but I would feel OK in a bikini. If it was nice and sturdy and not too low cut!

Rofl at gunt. That is the perfect name!

Highlystrungmum, please don't panic or let it spoil your birth. They do their best to make it as neat as possible and I can tell you I would far rather have my small and manageable gunt than some of the things that friends who have had a vaginal birth are living with.

would be OK

Not so much

MolotovCocktail Tue 25-Feb-14 22:04:01

Oh God, Highly, don't freak out! Before my CS I was worried. I had definite swelling above the scar that only started to go down after 6w (kind of looked like a small shelf; like I'd put on a pair of knickers with too-tight elastic, iyswim). I think it settled to pretty much how it looks now somewhere between 3-4 months later.

An overhang isn't a certainty with a CS. I currently don't have one and am only asking because I'm deciding whether to try for another baby and trying to work out if I'd be so lucky if there is a next time smile

The scar (aside from the silvery line) makes a tiny dent that is hidden within my pubes. I'm tall at 5'8 and I'm slim. I haven't weighed myself in a while but I usually weigh between 8st 10lbs and just over 9st (depending on life's stresses. The more stressed I am, the less I tend to eat)

With both pregnancies, I gained around 2st and babies were 7lb 5oz and 6lb 9oz.

Hoping this information gives context. Thank-you all for replying so far smile

ListenToTheLady Tue 25-Feb-14 22:04:23
Hedgehog80 Tue 25-Feb-14 22:06:01

I've had four cs and have no overhang, after dc4 I thought I would as for the first couple of weeks I still had a bit of a 'bump' and was sore and swollen but it all went down fine.

Theonlyoneiknow Tue 25-Feb-14 22:06:58

I have had two emergency CS.

After the first one you could make out a faint scar but no overhang at all, couldn't tell I had had a baby, scar aside. Maybe because pre and during pregnancy I was in good shape, who knows.

Second time had done no exercise since delivery of no.1. Have got a distinct overhang now. Gutted as can't see how to shift it. From what I have heard it's really hard!

HappyAsEyeAm Tue 25-Feb-14 22:07:07

Ive had two emcs and have no overhang. Im quite fleshy, and could do with losing half a stone and seriously toning up, so I am very wobbly. But no overhang.

HappyAsEyeAm Tue 25-Feb-14 22:10:31

Listen, what am I supposed to be looking at on the photos of those two women in bikinis? I can only see flat tummies, no overhang at all. Im confused.

I have a shelf rather than overhang, two years after 2nd CS. Have to sort of lift it out of the way to see the scar or shave. It gets a bit better if I lose weight but I'm a 8/10 normally so mainly it's just there.

But - no worse after second than after first. And I had a massive bump both times on a small frame.

Mignonette Tue 25-Feb-14 22:11:49

2 CS, one classical, one LSCS plus three abdominal surgeries where they went in through the lower segment.

My insides resemble Charlotte's Web but no overhang.

I think it's about which bikinis are ok to wear or not! None for me due to the additional benefit of crepey saggy doughy skin. Nice!

TheFowlAndThePussycat Tue 25-Feb-14 22:12:38

Yeah, it's bad. 2 sections plus emergency surgery post 2nd C-section (they sewed me up & then had to go in again). I'm a bit chunky anyway so I guess that doesn't help.

OTOH it doesn't seem to bother DH and I don't show that bit of my belly to anyone else - I don't think it is obvious through clothes...

Also, I wouldn't change a thing when it comes to my two lovely DDs, they are worth it without a doubt smile

AuditAngel Tue 25-Feb-14 22:14:15

I have a big overhang, but that is because I am fat.

I have 3 DC, 2 and 3 by CS. My overhang is bigger now than after number 2, but I am a clothes size larger than I was after number 2 (I lost a stone through stress) I'm heavier but the same clothes size as before/after number 1.

Even though my last CS was over 3 years ago, I still have no feeling in my skin from about an inch below my belly button, that still seems weird.

And I don't think (personally) it's much to do with exercise or not TheonlyoneIknow - I was really strong and slim before both pregnancies.....alas.......... grin

ListenToTheLady Tue 25-Feb-14 22:15:02

Sorry happy they are an example of a bikini I would wear and one that would be out of the question. The bodies are not illustrative of my gunt! (Or indeed any of the rest of me)

Mignonette Tue 25-Feb-14 22:16:18

I have no skin or pinch sensation in my lower abdomen 19 years after my last CS but that's not surprising- I have had a lot of surgery.

HappyAsEyeAm Tue 25-Feb-14 22:19:49

Thanks Little. I thought I had completely misunderstood what a c section overhang actually was!

MrsCDNinUK Tue 25-Feb-14 22:20:25

Not much of one and I've had 2 c/s and a laparotomy using the same incision (so 3 surgeries). C/S #3 is next week but I don't tend to gain a lot of weight pregnant - 15 lbs or so. I'm on the fluffy side so we'll see what happens when I lose the weight I want to.

Eatriskier Tue 25-Feb-14 22:20:45

I've had an EMCS and an ELCS, I was done up so tightly after the first the overhang was bad (emcs). The second didn't worsen anything. However I was very overweight after both which didn't help. I've lost 6 stone recently and my overhang isn't horrendous which I attribute to hula hooping 3 times a week.

ListenToTheLady Tue 25-Feb-14 22:21:03

(strangely bikini models with gunts were not forthcoming in my google search grin)

HappyAsEyeAm Tue 25-Feb-14 22:22:14

Yes, I have the crepey saggy doughy stomach too. No overhang, but that hardly matters as my stomach is such a mess. I am a size 10, buy seriously doughy and crinkled.

1944girl Tue 25-Feb-14 22:29:55

I have had two EMCS both with the classical scar. The advantage of having the classical scar is you do not get an overhang as such, but this scar, being a long line down your abdomen looks like a tuck when healed the two would be overhangs are down each side of it IYSWIM.
The disadvantage of it is it does not fade and mine is still clearly visible 41 years later. I call it my battle scar.It is many years since I wore a bikini but when I did the visible scar never bothered me.

PrimalLass Tue 25-Feb-14 22:30:01

Mine is getting much better with fasting and avoiding gluten.

Nice to know I'm not alone Happy - it feels like it sometimes!

Imagine my face when ten days after dc1 was born I asked my community midwife when the wrinkles would disappear.... and she said probably never and told me to start saving my child benefit for a tummy tuck shock

I can laugh about it now.... [ grin]

Teatimecakes Tue 25-Feb-14 22:52:49

I had an elcs - no over hang at all. Was a size 12 before ds and now am a 14 - I have a bit of a tummy still, but that's more to do with over indulgence than pregnancy or cs smile the only thing I find now is that any weight I gain goes straight to the bump area and makes me look pregnant again!

lotsofcheese Tue 25-Feb-14 23:07:32

After 2 EMCS, it's pretty grim. It wasn't so bad after the 1st, as I was really fit prior to & during pregnancy plus didn't gain much weight. It was a female consultant doing the surgery. Next time it was a male registrar doing the surgery late at night - I got a butchering. My shelf hangs out by a good few inches. I'm hoping diet & exercise will help - but not massively optimistic.

Beckamaw Tue 25-Feb-14 23:15:57

I have 3 children. 1 vaginal (forceps), 1 EMCS, 1 ELCS.
2nd was borderline GD and polyhydramnious, 3rd was at age 39.
Gained 3 stone each time.
I have no overhang, no stretch marks, no visible scar.
I'm lucky maybe?

HappyAsEyeAm Wed 26-Feb-14 08:55:14

Haveyoutried I had quite a doughy tummy after I had DS1 6 years ago. He was 8 lb 8 oz. I lost all my pregnancy weight, but my tummy was never the same.Then 2 years ago I had DS2. He was 9 lb 5 oz. I am a short, small framed size 10. I took months to lose the bloating second time round, and until about 4 months post partum, I looked like I'd had a drastic weight loss surgery type thing because I had so much exceess skin on my tummy. Nowhere else.

Then when he was about 5 months, I got back to my pre pregnancy weight, but I am still in serius need of toniging all over. I don't know how I could possibly shift this excess and doughy crinkled puckered skin on my tummy though. I am 8 stone 5 pounds, so hardly enormous, but my tummy is a mess. I find spanx are marvellous at holding it all in so that I can feel confident in some dresses, so I 100% recommend those (the ones that go up to undernerath your bra and down your legs like cycling shorts)!

Happy I think to some extent time helps. Not a huge amount but a bit! I also did a 1:1 pilates session for a year or so which helped..... a little bit! (Luckily it was very very cheap I normally couldn't afford that sort of thing)

I remember properly crying when the sun had a picture if Kate Middleton's glimpse of toned tum just a few months after birth (I was pretty drunk though!) DP said if it really upset me we could think about a tummy tuck but I'd never be able to go through with it!

HappyAsEyeAm Wed 26-Feb-14 12:13:03

Haveyoutried I think I need to accept that I need to exercise. I don't think its possible for me to do much more with diet alone. I know that I could lose about 5 lb, but I find 8 stone 3 pounds a difficult weight to main. Maybe regular swimming will help. Or I could take the cellophane off the exercise DVDs.

I saw that same picture of Kate Middleton's tummy. I have a vclose friend who has had three DC and her tummy is completely flat and very toned too. Her figure is amazing and her tummy is a thing of beauty (not muscular, just flat). She exercises, and also eats far less than I do though and I have never seen her eat crap.

I need to make a proper effort and then judge whether it has made a difference! Ds2 is nearly 2yo now, so its time.

Sorry for all the typos in my previous post. Well done on your pilates toning. Having had the two emcs, I don't know if I could put myself through a tummy tuck. Any extra surgery is quite scary for me.

lotsofcheese Wed 26-Feb-14 13:00:50

I forgot to say previously that I've had to abandon low-rise knickers, jeans etc as they simply slipped down into the shelf, digging into my scar. So it's big pants all round!

And YY to numbness below belly button. A year later I'm not hugely optimistic it will get any better.

MolotovCocktail Wed 26-Feb-14 19:01:27

Well, my CS was carried out by a male surgeon. He was very good: no infection, my stupid blood that doesn't clot properly was controlled and I've ended up with a neat scar and no overhang (the shelf does come back a little when af is due I.e. bloating). There is a slight pucker on the right-hand side of the scar tho.

The surgeob wasn't keen on me having the CS because it was maternal request. The reason why I requested it is genuine to me - its that in combination with the fact I've already had one which is why I'd request ELCS again and not VBAC.

Maybe if I ever become pg again, I'd ask for a female consultant (wouldn't have to meet him again and go through the same grilling, and perhaps slightly better embroidery skills grin )

Anyway, thank-you for your replies to my rather vain thread. I'm certainly getting broody again, maybe against my better judgement ... confused

MolotovCocktail Wed 26-Feb-14 19:03:11

*surgeon, not spongebob (or whatever I wrote)

Strongecoffeeismydrug Thu 27-Feb-14 00:23:46

First c section I had a female surgeon and was left with a small overhang.
Had 2nd c section 3 weeks ago and had a male surgeon, he said the first scar was untidy, so he used the same scar to get baby out and did a bit of skin trimmingsmile. 3 weeks post op my scar is lovely,flat, straight and overhang free grin

ListenToTheLady Thu 27-Feb-14 09:42:16

Yes my very neat scars were by male surgeons, I don't think there's necessarily any correlation.

I remember with my first EMCS, through my post-op daze the MW telling me "Ooh, you're lucky you have got xxxxxx, he will do a lovely neat job" grin

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