Signs of labour with 2nd baby?

(519 Posts)
mummyjanine Tue 28-Jan-14 12:54:01

Did you have any signs leading up to labour 2nd time round and if so what?

MrsJK Tue 28-Jan-14 14:16:17

Marking my place! I'm getting fed up of symptom Spotting already confused

TallRedhead Sat 01-Feb-14 20:29:07

ditto! I'm 37+4 and so ready to meet #2!
DH wants baby to come soon as well as I am the grumpiest woman alive right now. Poor guy!
Lying in the bath eating green & blacks choc thinking is each twinge the beginning!?!

PastaandCheese Sat 01-Feb-14 20:55:24

I'm 36 weeks and have all the symptoms I had last time but only got in the few days before birth. I have a horrible feeling that this just means the backache, pressure in bump, hot flushes, grumpiness and dreaded knitting needles up fanjo will last for at least 4 weeks this time hmm

JBurge Sat 01-Feb-14 22:12:02

39.3 weeks with DC2 and I've had tonnes of "symptoms" for at least 4 weeks. I'm even lying in bed right now convincing myself that things are happening tonight. I've had a bath and the BH didn't stop which they usually do, but they seem to be getting stronger. Here's hoping!

Madallie Sat 01-Feb-14 23:19:39

I'm symptom spotting too. I'm 39.2 and have been having what I think are BH for about 3 hours tonight. They're tightening around my bump but pain is concentrated low down where you'd get period pain. They don't have a regular pattern so in know they're not contractions. However, I remember reading that BH should last long and should be painful whereas I'm experiencing both. I'm just assuming if they were real contractions they would have got a lot worse by now!

Auntierosemary Sat 01-Feb-14 23:37:25

Crying. Night before I had both my babies I cried over something inconsequential, like eastenders, or an advert.
But with second also had lots of false starts and seemed to have labour symptoms for weeks before anything happened. The crying was the only thing common to both births. Tissues out!

PastaandCheese Sun 02-Feb-14 07:04:30

JBurge and Madallie you're much closer than me so perhaps you really are on your way?

Far more likely than me anyway. I've accepted my body is aware it is going to give birth this time compared to the state blissful ignorance of last time but this all smacks of a more long term exit strategy.....!

Laying here with period pains now to add to the list. <sighs>

JBurge Sun 02-Feb-14 07:53:34

Nothing happened here during the night! Still pregnant and BHs stopped for the time being. I've had a few teary moments of late but I think it's just because I'm so fed up. My husband must be getting so fed up of me too, I'm in such a bad mood and can't snap out of it.

Mumof3xx Sun 02-Feb-14 07:56:47

Before all three of my labours

Oh and I have argued!

PastaandCheese Sun 02-Feb-14 07:57:12

I'm going with the line 'the baby will be out in 3 pushes' with all this 'prep' business if that helps.

I figure by the time I get to test my theory having given the allotted 3 pushes I'll be so close to not being pregnant I'll be able to take being wrong on the chin.

spritesoright Sun 02-Feb-14 08:02:28

I'm watching with interest. Currently 38+2 and I'm not even getting very frequent or strong BH. I think this baby will wait a while. Last night I got a hot flush and v. tired but I don't think it meant anything.
I was convinced my dates were wrong and this baby would be early but now not sure.
Madallie and Jburge that sounds promising.
I remember thinking with DD that I should have just enjoyed the pre-baby phase because the newborn phase was hell but here I am, anxious to meet the baby and get the labour over and done with.

mummy1973 Sun 02-Feb-14 08:04:55

No. Just waters breaking. smile

JBurge Sun 02-Feb-14 08:34:56

The thing is it's easier to enjoy being heavily pregnant in the summer when you are childless. But when it's winter, raining everyday, and you have a toddler, the whole thing is a lot harder! 2.2.14 is a good date to be born! Come on baby!!

any date around now would be a good time to be born! ialways read this threads to give myself hope, but baby doesnt budge (39+5).

TallRedhead Sun 02-Feb-14 18:26:34

Still pregnant here too!
I quite like the sound of todays date as a birthday.
Slight bloody show last night so thought it was on, but nothing. Rang labour ward and they said only to worry/go in if lots of blood, put pad on and no more. DD was born 9hrs after the show so was getting v excited!!
Symptom spotting it's the past time of trying to get pregnant and now waiting for baby to come out smile

JBurge Sun 02-Feb-14 18:50:37

Could be tonight for you TallRedhead! Fingers crossed. I've decided my daughter is waiting until her grandparents come back from Babados next weekend!

PastaandCheese Sun 02-Feb-14 19:15:01

Obviously I'm still pregnant because I still have 3.5 weeks to go but you wouldn't know it from my symptom spotting.

My friend came over to run through everything re looking after DD when it happens and it left me with delusions that it'll all happen some time soon.

JBurge is bang on the money that it's easier to enjoy it when it's summer and you don't have a 2 year old!

Fingers crossed for tallredhead.

Twoandtwohalves Sun 02-Feb-14 19:23:03

I had DS2 at 39+5 but looking back reckon I was in labour for about two week prior - BH, general discomfort, twinges and show leaks. Even made a couple of false alarm trips to the labour ward before there was no mistaking it and he arrived 11 minutes after I arrived a third time - the midwife didn't finish reading my notes.

When it was really happening, it started like period pain crampy labour and more like some sort of upset stomach/pronounced baby movements. I couldn't keep off the loo for about an hour and once that was over had about another hour of irregular but close contractions. Good luck to you all!

JBurge Sun 02-Feb-14 19:35:58

Bouncing on my ball, eating chocolates, drinking Prosecco!

JBurge Sun 02-Feb-14 22:48:56

I've just read the entire page of "Little Daisy-Mae" on Facebook. It's a diary of a baby born at 25weeks, written by her Dad. It's incredibly emotional and amazingly written. It's made me realise I need to stop complaining about still be pregnant and just be grateful that I'm not in that situation. Take a look ladies but get your tissues ready!! X

PastaandCheese Sun 02-Feb-14 23:03:41

I honestly don't think I could. I howled at Toy Story 3 early today.

DD and DH asked me to leave the room as I was ruining it for them by hiccuping 'Andy's Mum and Woody just want their little boy back'.

You are completely correct in what you say though. We are very lucky to make it to term.

Madallie Sun 02-Feb-14 23:14:29

I just had a little look at the FB page and you are so right. We are blessed and so lucky to not have to be facing this. What a brave little family.

KatieChooChoo Sun 02-Feb-14 23:32:16

im 38+4. I thought i went into labour on Friday, contracts started at 3pm, consistent but sporadic (2, 4, 6 and even 12 mins apart) till Saturday mid day. They were bearable.
I rang the labour unit to prewarn them and had every one on standby.
I was feeling the same as I did with my first who is 2 years old.
But when the contractions stopped the lower back ache started and hasnt gone.
For the past few hours ive felt him bed lower into my pelvic, im already very low, ive carried low with this one. The past hours its felt like he is digging my 'lady garden' from the inside. The pressure got that intense an hour ago i felt it in my bum but that substided.

Knowing this could continue for another few weeks fills me with dread!

spritesoright Mon 03-Feb-14 07:41:47

katiechoochoo surely not another few weeks! You sound imminent!
Yes I spent first half of pregnancy praying she wouldn't come early and now I just want it over.

I cannot watch anything to do with mother/child relationship and loss nowadays or I'm a total wreck. I saw Father and Son at the cinema (Japanese film about two families whose babies are switched at birth) and I howled. So embarrassing.
At least now I am booked in at the birth centre so fingers crossed I can have my lovely water birth this time instead of the hell that was the first labour (I know, I know).

PastaandCheese Mon 03-Feb-14 08:16:12

Ooo! sprites Lewisham accepted you then? I was on your OP. Hurrah!

TallRedhead Mon 03-Feb-14 16:03:49

So true. I had a few mc's between DD and this pregnancy so spent most of this pregnancy hoping/wishing/praying all was well and now I feel ungrateful wanting baby to come early. 38 weeks tomorrow, dd came at 38+6 but that also means nothing. Each one is different.
Funny thing is I'll miss my bump as soon as it's gone - gosh I sound awful!!!

KatieChooChoo Mon 03-Feb-14 16:31:59

Spritesoright - you'd think I was close to kick off wouldnt you? Ive literally just started to have some brownish discharge (sorry to be graphic) but im hoping this is a good sign for progression.

I think at our stage we can read too much into things and wishful thinking takes over. Plus you cant help but compare aches and pains to the first time round.
The only thing we can be sure off is that the babies will arrive when they are ready....our lives are dominated by our kids!!! (im sure, like me, you wouldnt have it any other way)

Good luck and keep us posted xxx

spritesoright Mon 03-Feb-14 18:26:42

pastaandcheese that's so sweet, thanks for remembering. Yes, you and others were right that it was just a tick box exercise and I am set to give birth there (barring some other problem which I am more than aware might happen).
katiechoochoo I'd say you're definitely closer than me! Very jealous. Nada here.
I am trying to enjoy the one on one with my 2 year old before her little sister arrives. It's lively when she isn't winding me up smile

spritesoright Mon 03-Feb-14 20:44:22

I meant lovely (but she's also lively).
Out of curiosity- those with toddlers how are they adjusting/anticipating new baby's arrival?
DD was excited and accepted her new room eagerly until she realised I was putting the baby's clothes in her old dresser, at which point she burst into tears.
Oh dear. We also noticed her sucking her thumb which is not something she's ever done before.

PastaandCheese Mon 03-Feb-14 21:27:08

My DD is 2 too. She is mostly ok about the baby but she had a tantrum last week announcing I was only her mummy and not the baby's.

It took me completely by surprise as she has seemed happy about it until now.

KatieChooChoo Mon 03-Feb-14 23:59:01

Omg Spritesoright I also have a 2 year old, son. We're having another boy. I decided t find the sex out with this one so i could prepare my son for the arrival.
Ive spoke to a few friends who have more than one child, and they have all said the same............... they felt a tinge of guilt on child 1.
Ive felt like crying at times that he'll have to share the attention and center of the universe. But Ive been promised that once child 2 arrives everything slots into place.
Is that what you were getting at?

Still no further on with labour, my cervix appears to be on strike.

JBurge Tue 04-Feb-14 03:16:51

I think something could be happening in the Burge camp. I've been having regular non painful contractions for 24 hours. Plus I've had 3 major clear outs down below in 24 hours which is very unusual. Just now woken up by a leak of water, not much but enough to wake me up, and now contractions are becoming stronger and closer. Come on baby!!

MrsJK Tue 04-Feb-14 04:27:01

Come on baby burge grin

Only Insomnia for me shock

EugenesAxe Tue 04-Feb-14 04:41:16

I was much more aware of BH contractions... didn't lose the mucus plug so obviously the day before as with #1.

Sid77 Tue 04-Feb-14 04:44:11

With my 2nd DS(now 16 weeks) I had mild achey period like pains at 40+1 in the morning. It was when my waters burst on the sofa with a really big contraction that I knew something was definitely happening! From then it was 20 mins and 4 contractions until DS2 was born, at the bottom of the stairs, before the ambulance crew arrived. My advice to all pregnant with number 2 has been get thee to a hospital sharpish! Good luck all!

PastaandCheese Tue 04-Feb-14 06:32:05

Fingers crossed this is it for JBurge

KatieChooChoo Tue 04-Feb-14 08:02:55

Jburge - Hope the lack of update is a good sign. Best of luck... push, push ...PUSH

MrsJK - Dont shatter yourself out.

Sid77 - Jealous. I want that experience. Congratulations on your DS.
xxx

PastaandCheese Tue 04-Feb-14 08:25:44

Nah..... JBurge is having baby snuggles now. All second babies come early, are born quickly and only need 3 pushes.....
Right??!!

<settles head back into sand>

KatieChooChoo Tue 04-Feb-14 08:55:07

Pastaandcheese, any more than 3 pushes im blaming you http://static.mumsnet.com/emo/te/2.gif

KatieChooChoo Tue 04-Feb-14 08:56:00

that http;/static thingy is supposed to be grin face from the smileys below!

PastaandCheese Tue 04-Feb-14 09:17:18

Ha ha. You're ahead of me so you can let me know!

I'm figuring after I've given the 3 pushes and it hasn't worked I'll be too preoccupied to be very cross about it.

Mind you, what do I know? I spent the last minute of my first birth wailing 'what's that, what's that' whilst being reassured it was the baby's head. It was as though it was news to me that I was even having a baby. Surely the daftest question ever asked during childbirth?!

KatieChooChoo Tue 04-Feb-14 09:55:52

I know what you mean. I was gobsmacked when i had my ds. I was on all 4's so the midwife passed him round my front and laid him in front me, i just looked at him not knowing what to do and actually permission to touch him!

I then apologised for swearing.

Youre only 2 weeks behind me arent you? you could sprint ahead yet.

PastaandCheese Tue 04-Feb-14 10:31:06

There is a chance it might be a bit less shocking this time I guess!

I've dug out some baby grows DD didn't wear because they went over the head rather than buttoning all the way down. I couldn't work out how you would get them on the baby......Can't imagine being quite that careful with this one somehow.

spritesoright Tue 04-Feb-14 10:42:13

Ooh, JBurge very exciting. Yes, hoping you are having newborn snuggles now. I was inspired by your previous post and did some of my own ball bouncing with chocolate and wine last night. I thought I might be having some mild period pains but it's probably just gas. YY to visiting the toilet a LOT recently. I have a UTI as well so I'm taking antibiotics for that.
Pastaandcheese that's exactly what DD said when I had to explain to her that I would be the baby's mummy - "NO!" She seemed to think the baby's mummy would be taking the baby home at some point...
Katiechoochoo that is my concern as well and I've felt teary putting DD's old babygrows into the dresser knowing she will never wear them again. It's the guilt that I'll be replacing her! I started a thread about it in parenting but people came on to say that it's not taking something away from them, it's giving them a sibling. Which helped.
I am also praying that second labour is even mildly easier than first labour, which was grim.
"I coudln't work out how you would get them on the baby"
Have you read the PFB thread in parenting section? Made me laugh.
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/parenting/1981512-Flipping-freezing-sterilising-and-the-just-plain-ludicrous-what-daft-things-did-you-do-with-your-PFB

TallRedhead Tue 04-Feb-14 11:11:47

JBurge exciting.....

spritesoright I like that idea that you are givingvthem a sibling. DD also 2 and very ecited about it all but I can't help feeling sad after she has been the centre of mine and DHs world for so long!

More brown show today - heres hoping smile

TallRedhead Tue 04-Feb-14 11:14:00

Sid777 that is my worry as DD came quick enough but at the bottom of the stairs shock

It is so tricky but I think I just knew when to go in last time so going with that!

KatieChooChoo Tue 04-Feb-14 11:50:04

Tallredhead, i thought i needed a poo last time, 15 mins after arriving at hospital my waters went and 5 mins after my ds popped out.
With that said I did spend 12 hours at home contracting, not wanting to 'bother' the mat unit as they had already sent me home feeling stupid at 1 cm!!

No further signs with this one. Im reading way too much into every little twinge.

Im contemplating the wine trick, i have no ball so will just bounce on the sofa, its as padded as my arse so should work!

spritesoright Tue 04-Feb-14 11:56:04

All these quick past births, yikes.
So funny to be getting excited about brown shows and period pains. But here we are...

JBurge Tue 04-Feb-14 12:32:39

Hi ladies

I'm still at home, things are progressing but not quite as quickly as I would like. CXs going from 5 mins apart back up to 7. They're defo the real thing though!! Struggling to talk through them now, so here's hoping DD may make it out before tomorrow's due date!

PastaandCheese Tue 04-Feb-14 12:40:53

Yay for baby JBurge!!! So exciting for you.

Sounds like your body is just giving you a rest before the final push. Best of luck.

Overall a sibling is a wonderful thing. I'm getting hormonal remembering when my 11 month old DD was seriously ill in hospital and my sister rang just after they ventilated her and I was thinking 'I want to to die now, I can't take anymore'. I was alone because DH was working abroad desperately trying to get a flight back and she said 'I am coming to be with you' even though she has a fancy pants job and never, ever takes time off. To the best of my knowledge that is the first time she has ever left work.

It made me forgive all the times she stole my Barbie's shoes to be honest.

Reading the PFB thread just resonated with me so much. Only yesterday I remembered putting her in a clean grow bag every, single night for 6 months just because it seemed wrong to use them twice. WTF?!

KatieChooChoo Tue 04-Feb-14 13:28:11

oh wow, thats chocked me a bit Pastaandcheese. The poor little mite and poor you and your poor dh. I dont even want to imagine how you felt.
I know for sure that your perspective on situations like that changes once you have children, both me my dp have said that. Think its coz we can relate more.

With regards to a clean grow everynight..... theres nothing wrong with that, i did the same, but my ds wears the same vest twice (if clean with no stains).

Back to discharge - ive had some more but its clear / creamy ?? dont recall this one ds. Feeling pressure below again too.

JBurge - hold on in there, not long to go. The next 5cm will be quick and you'll be holding your joyful bundle before Emmerdale comes on.

Now, wheres that glass of wine while i have a bounce on the sofa lol
xx

AFergie Tue 04-Feb-14 13:30:56

With my second one NOTHING happened until I got my first contraction at 1am and they never stopped until the baby was born !

Those last few weeks are so hard, I feel for you girls, good luck and chin up you are solo nearly there ! xxx

PastaandCheese Tue 04-Feb-14 13:41:48

The strange thing is we aren't even that close katiechoochoo it's just when the chips are down and all that.

AFergie I'm realising how easy it is the first time without a toddler.

JBurge will be done by dinner and can finish her Prosecco without having to bounce at the same time. jealous

KatieChooChoo Tue 04-Feb-14 14:14:45

Pastaandcheese, its nice to know that she'll be there for you when you really need her. I used t be really close to my sister up-un-till Oct last year. We fell out over something that could have have dealt with but things escalated to the point where my parents took her side (as per, shes very very close to them). Other actions on both sides took place during a stressful period, I was nursing my gran at the time (we were both very close to our grandparents). She sadly died at the beginning of Dec.
But since Oct we havent spoke, me, my sister or my parents. They only got in touch by sending a letter to my dp that arrived xmas eve which slagged me off. The last paragraph said to remind my ds of them in the future!! They've made no effort with him. But what he doesn't get he doesn't miss.... right?

Good god, sorry about that !!
Really NEED A GLASS OF PROCESSCO NOW lol

PastaandCheese Tue 04-Feb-14 16:02:25

I think you should have one. That sounds like a dreadful situation to deal with. Perhaps they will mellow a bit when your new baby is born? I do hope so.

spritesoright Tue 04-Feb-14 16:55:18

Sorry to hear that Katiechoochoo I've noticed that you miss those relationships particularly when you have children as you want someone else to gloat over them as much as you do. Both my mum and sister live abroad (I moved) and I didn't speak to my mum for a while because of her unwillingness (inability) to visit DD.
That's so lovely about your sister pastaandcheese, I can only imagine how you must have felt with your baby in hospital. Awful.
Thanks for the encouragement Afergie, I like to hear about reassuringly fast births the second time round instead of long, drawn out, syntocin enhanced ordeals like my first was. UGh!

KatieChooChoo Tue 04-Feb-14 18:40:57

Aww thanks guys. The situation will sort itself im sure, but at the moment wounds are too deep and im still angry with them to make the first move. The letter was awful to read, and then theres the text message my mother and sister send my dp prior where they once again slagged me.
Families!!! Luckily i have aunts, uncles and cousins for support.

Back to our impending labours ........ any further developments?

Burge MUST be holding her bundle of joy right now, its been a few hours.

Spritsorght - which country are you from? How long have you lived in the UK and are you North, South, East or West?

Same to you pastaandcheese, which neck of the woods are you from?

Im from not so sunny Stockport, Greater Manchester, where 2 year olds watch the night garden while wearing sun glasses (as my ds is doing right now).

JBurge Tue 04-Feb-14 21:26:18

Baby Natalie was born at 7pm, natural birth with g&a. Sadly I've torn so badly that I have to have an epidural and go to theatre to be repaired! Gutted about that, but my daughter is worth it. P.S it was quick!

IwishIwasmoreorganised Tue 04-Feb-14 21:27:50

No. Nothing until my waters went on EDD. Twinges started about 12 hours later and ds2 arrived 5 hours after that.

Good luck to you all!

Thewhingingdefective Tue 04-Feb-14 21:35:36

I slowed down a lot in the couple of days before and just slept lots. I felt like I was getting a summer cold though, so put my tiredness and feeling rough down to that. I had no real obvious signs labour was imminent. A lot of Braxton Hicks but I was having twins and was huge.

My waters broke at 37 weeks early in the morning and strong contractions kicked in 40 minutes later.

PastaandCheese Tue 04-Feb-14 22:11:24

Congratulations jburge. That's a lovely name too. thanksthanksthanksthanks

I'm sorry about your tear. There will be experts in theatre to look after you.

KatieChooChoo Tue 04-Feb-14 22:11:30

JBurge - Huge congratulations. What a lovely name too. Sorry to hear about the tears, ouch! But like you say your precious dd has arrived safely, just in time for emmerdale as i predicted (although i expect you had other things of more importance to concentrate on).
Wishing you and your family health and happiness and you a speedy recovery.
xxx

Spirtsoright - how are you doing? still having the odd bounce sipping processco ??

xx

spritesoright Tue 04-Feb-14 22:59:58

Jburge so thrilled for you. Sorry about the tear though but hopefully they will stitch it up well.
Katie I'm Canadian and live in SE England. Recently applied for British citizenship though.
I feel like I'm getting a cold too and just generally exhausted.
I will read it as another sign wink

PastaandCheese Tue 04-Feb-14 23:27:41

Everything is a sign.... It's the two week conception wait all over again!

Katie, I forgot to say I'm also from the South East. It's not so sunny here either...!

JBurge Tue 04-Feb-14 23:27:46

Thanks all! Good luck with your impending labours! Just a tip from me to get things moving quickly, bounce a lot, have sex, drink Prosecco and when labour starts, walk like a maniac! Worked for me xx

KatieChooChoo Tue 04-Feb-14 23:50:39

Spritsoright and Pastaandcheese - 1 down, 3 to go. The race is on. Get set. Goooooooo !
XX

KatieChooChoo Wed 05-Feb-14 01:04:45

Would I be tempting fate if I said:
Cant sleep - anxious ??!!
cramping pains - bearable
Back ache - uncomfortable
Feeling pressure below
All 3 at once which is a first for me.

Fingers crossed. Toes crossed.

PastaandCheese Wed 05-Feb-14 08:24:37

Hot water bottle time I think katie or 'mummy's knitted parcel' as DD calls my hot water bottle.

Hope you got some rest JBurge and get to go home today.

spritesoright Wed 05-Feb-14 10:00:23

Ooh, Katie. That's very exciting. I am 39 weeks tomorrow which is when DD was born but I'm sure that doesn't mean anything.
'Mummy's knitted parcel' LOL. They come up with the funniest stuff at this age.
Yes, hope you are home resting with your snuggly newborn now Jburge while those stitches heal.

PastaandCheese Wed 05-Feb-14 10:04:16

I can totally see what she means as it shaped exactly like an Internet shopping bag!

No news from Katie...... Bet she's having her baby now.

I was 3 days late with DD so expect this again except my mum and nan were both 10 days early the second time which gives me a slight sense I could be early this time.

Mind you they both failed to get to the hospital too giving birth in car and bathroom so let's hope genetics plays a limited role this time.

With DD2 I had no signs what so everuntil 1 contraction at 2.30am ish on the day before she was due and 38 minutes later she was here! I had been in for observation earlier in the day and they said 'see you in 2 weeks'!

KatieChooChoo Wed 05-Feb-14 12:10:18

Guys you must be getting as pissed off with me as i am with myself. Period style pains throughout the night with the back ache and pressure feeling. All bearable. Woke this morning to just a few cramps.
BUT i have had a cleaning urge!! So ive dropped the ds at his childminders for the day and got stuck into some fabreeze / detol activities.

Any signs from either of you two Sprite of Pasta? Sprite is you due date the 12th? mine is.
xx

TallRedhead Wed 05-Feb-14 14:26:46

Congrats JBurge

Nothing here.

I'm getting worried about the quickness of baby #2!

Made plans to meet SIL for coffee & cake tomorrow hoping having plans instead of sitting around will tempt fate confused

MrsJK Wed 05-Feb-14 15:21:25

Hi ladies,

Congrats JBurge - I am immensly jealous!

Have been busy trying to entertain a lively toddler for the last few days. Thought something was happening again yesterday / last night but low N behold i am still here and pregnant today (very unimpressed)

I think its the uncertainty that paining me the most and worrying about the speed when it does kick off (same as Redhead!) as DC1 was super quick smile

It will be our turn soon right ladies……anyone have any daring plans to distract themselves?

PastaandCheese Wed 05-Feb-14 15:33:19

I've got SIL and her DH staying for the weekend so thinking it would be fab if it all kicked off in the night and DH and I could just leave everyone sleeping...... Because life is always just that easy isn't it?!

KatieChooChoo Wed 05-Feb-14 16:04:31

Right, ive been reading up. More BH are expected at this stage,the brown discharge is expected at this stage, feeling restless is expected at this stage, needing a number 1 and number 2 more is expected at this stage, feeling increased pressure below is expected at this stage, back ache is expected at this stage and reading too much into the mentioned is expected at this stage.
So me getting excited about more discharge is not a sign of anything happening immediately.. sighs..
:,-(

Redhead I hope you push of fate pays off, keep us posted.

KatieChooChoo Wed 05-Feb-14 16:08:02

Pastaandcheese Im loving your planning. I so hope it comes off for you.

KatieChooChoo Wed 05-Feb-14 16:11:27

MrsJK, ive shipped my ds to the child minders for the day. Ive done my cleaning. Dyed my hair. Watched Phil and Holly (while enjoying a clean and tidy livingroom for longer than 15 minutes with ds not being here) and now ive gone and registered for on line bingo !!!!!!!!!! on line bingo!!
I got myself quite excited at winning £3.40 and even that didnt set labour off.

MrsJK Wed 05-Feb-14 21:04:47

Ha ha Katie that made me
Chuckle Bingo wink did you make a killing this afternoon?

We have a nursery day tomorrow so a day like yours sounds heavenly especially after I fell exhausted today.

Think I may try for an early night tonight. Given how tired I am why oh why do I wake up early hours every single night?!

spritesoright Wed 05-Feb-14 22:06:59

mrsjk I know, the insomnia is killing me. I had DD today and managed a nap together, lovely! We also went to visit a friend and her newborn, he was soo lovely and I got teary thinking about baby on the way.
DD is in nursery tomorrow and I was thinking of doing something luxurious like a pedicure.
These super short labour stories are scaring me, although apparently the birth centre will let DD in to the room but I wouldn't be able to relax. She's a handful at the best of times.

PastaandCheese Thu 06-Feb-14 07:42:00

Nursery day here too!

I'm mainly planing to enjoy the silence.

spritesoright Thu 06-Feb-14 12:54:34

pastaandcheese tis glorious isn't it? After they left I watched BBC breakfast sipping DH's coffee he hadn't finished and then went back to bed until 11.
Okay, maybe this baby can wait a bit longer...

PastaandCheese Thu 06-Feb-14 13:03:05

I've been and had my eyebrows done. Eaten the last bagel for lunch and I'm reading my book now.

I've got ironing to do but even that will be a pleasure as the risk of serious injury to a small child is non existent and I can have Radio 4 on.

Madallie Thu 06-Feb-14 14:02:18

So had a sweep today, 40 weeks exactly. I was hopeful I'd be dilated etc but apparently only 1 finger tip sad and cervix somewhat posterior! Anyway sweep was done. This is exactly how I was at this point with dc1 and mw wasn't hopeful sweep would work then but waters broke 4am next morning. Still don't think she was hopeful this time and neither am I, but fingers crossed and I guess well see.

Please send positive vibes my way.

spritesoright Thu 06-Feb-14 15:02:44

Oh Madallie sorry to hear that, positive vibes on their way!
It's difficult not to compare with first labour but probably best avoided.
How was the sweep? Not too painful I hope.
I was surprised at my midwife appointment yesterday when they said they won't book another appointment for me until 41 weeks (I'm 39 today), because it's my second.
So I wouldn't have the possibility of a sweep until then anyways.
Fingers crossed yours worked though!
My friend swears that holding a newborn kicks off hormones and kicked off her labour last time, but I have felt nada since cuddling her little one
(just jealous, that's all).

KatieChooChoo Thu 06-Feb-14 17:11:10

Its bliss having a day to yourself isnt it. I feel so refreshed after yesterday.

The only sign i have is my discharge is now clear and smelly???? How about you guys?

xx

PastaandCheese Thu 06-Feb-14 18:32:15

I know! I love my DD so much but she is very full on and so the odd day of peace is very welcome.

No symptoms here at all apart from some low down period type pains first thing.

I'm starting to realise that some of the symptoms I've been experiencing had more to do with working too hard than labour being imminent.

Madallie I can understand how you feel but everyone will tell you that things happen very quickly with second babies and therefore you shouldn't read too much in to what was said today.

KatieChooChoo Thu 06-Feb-14 18:58:24

I think you appreciate your children when you get a break from them. They probably need a break from us as much as we need one from them!

This is ignorant of me but what does a sweep entail ?

I so hope things get moving for you madallie.

MrsJK has been quiet today, wonder if theres ant progression in her camp? hope so.

MrsJK Thu 06-Feb-14 20:29:09

Sorry to disappoint ladies nothing from me confused

Have been feeling slightly sorry for myself today whilst whizzing around 100MPH trying to get jobs done during nursery time.

I do wonder if my aches and pains ( of which had A LOT today ) have been from simply doing to much and not remotely D-Day related at all?! shock

I'm getting slightly worried about the size of this baby now too - 2nd DC just sneeze out right wink

Hang in there ladies!

spritesoright Thu 06-Feb-14 21:58:32

No real symptoms here either. Although after today I'm thinking I don't mind waiting a bit. I still need DH to set up the baby bay and car seat base and I need to organise the nursery a bit.
Yes, my DD keeps me busy and seems to have picked now as a good time to drop her nap sad.
I don't really know what a sweep is either, I assume it has to do with getting the cervix to open.
mrsjk I hope you get some much needed rest soon.
I keep thinking about the upcoming newborn sleepless nights and am completely dreading it. Two years ago now but that was a special kind of hell.

KatieChooChoo Thu 06-Feb-14 22:15:57

at least once the babies finally arrive and they have us up at stupid o'clock we can start a new thread of how to deal with sleep deprivation :-)

MrsJK is sounds like you're doing an awful lot of whizzing round. Calm down and rest woman!! Easier said than done tho.

I too have been slow at organising with number 2. Ive still to put the car seat cover back on from washing and pack a hospital bag. Was contemplating a home birth but dp has totally gone off the idea and put me on a guilt trip so hospital it is.

Wishing you all a peaceful nights sleep with fewer than few toilet get ups.
xx

spritesoright Fri 07-Feb-14 09:38:49

I like the idea of a home birth but in reality I wouldn't like the FAFF of setting up a pool somewhere, all the clean towels to hand, tidying up afterwards and having to worry about DD running around.
I want peace in the lovely birth centre.
There is so much to do isn't there? But make sure to pack your bag soon Katie.
Yes, I imagine I will be on some 'newborn sleep hell' thread soon enough.

PastaandCheese Fri 07-Feb-14 11:19:06

Can't think about newborn sleep. DD was an angel in this respect. I'm going to get a nocturnal one this time for sure.

Loads of pain here today...... Owing to baby not liking scrubbing the bathrooms and floors. I would go and have a bath but it is too clean to use.

KatieChooChoo Fri 07-Feb-14 12:50:45

Pastaandcheese that sounds like severe NESTING to me. I so hope so. A weekend arrival would be perfect. Fingers and toes crossed for you.
Loving your bathroom being too clean to use, i know exactly what you mean, although I dont experience that feeling often with DP and DS.

Madalle I hope theres some movement for you hun.

Hope Tallredhead is doing ok.

Wishing you all luck and a happy CONTRACTING friday!
xx

PastaandCheese Fri 07-Feb-14 17:26:16

The house is stupidly clean and tidy, there are lots of little meals for DD in the freezer, home made cake in the oven, I've posted my niece's birthday gift two weeks in advance and cleared memory card on camera.

There's nothing stopping me except I've decided that I will go overdue. I did last time so why should it be any different this time?!

KatieChooChoo Fri 07-Feb-14 18:29:21

My goodness you are super organised!

Madallie Fri 07-Feb-14 22:33:50

No movement here. Went to assessment unit today as have been feeling sick, dizzy etc and slightly reduced fetal movement. Anyway midwives were happy with movement trace as was I but sent me to see doctor as I still felt sick etc.

Well, doctor did an internal, tried to do a sweep but said he couldn't cos cervix is too far back, not effaced or fingertip dilated as midwife had said yesterday. I had been told I was a fingertip dilated and 50% effaced (I cant see why she would make thus up).

Dr also said baby was measuring small. I have always been 2 cm smaller than weeks I am but have been told that's fine. Anyway this doctor says I am only measuring 34 cm that's 6 cm less than weeks I am and 4cm less than midwife measured me yesterday confused. How the hell can that be?

Anyway dr said for me to go for daily monitoring on sat, sun and have a growth scan on mon, I'm so confused. Baby's movements were fine when monitored today and baby is moving like crazy this evening so don't think I need to go for the monitoring. As for growth scan, I just don't know how my measurements can have dropped so much overnight. I'm upset, confused and worried tbh.

PastaandCheese Fri 07-Feb-14 23:29:17

Oh dear Madallie that doesn't sound like a good day.

The measuring with a tape measure thing has always seemed the least scientific approach I have ever seen. The midwife starts and ends the tape measure in a different place every time and I'd have thought that at this point the baby being in a slightly different position would change the figure.

Go for the monitoring. I'm sure you are right and you don't need it but it will be helpful to see what they say on Monday so you are a bit clearer on whether the baby is small.

I had a growth scan last time as I was 3 weeks behind. I'm 2 weeks behind this time. Funny enough I had a small baby - 6lb and overdue. It was reassuring to know she was just dinky though and there were no problems with the placenta / fluid levels so well worth having.

I don't know what to say about the difference of opinion re the sweeps but do you think she swept the membranes yesterday? If she could do that you must be dilating or she wouldn't have been able to attempt it.

I've only ever had one sweep but I could feel the movement of the midwife's fingers so I know it happened and I thought that they couldn't attempt it at all if you weren't dilating?

spritesoright Sat 08-Feb-14 07:22:02

I had trouble getting to sleep last night because of ongoing cramp like period pains and I thought for sure, this is it. But this morning they seem to have completely disappeared.
Ah well, I was wondering how feasible it would be to drag MIL out of bed in the middle of the night and I'd rather start after a good night's sleep.

Madallie sorry to hear about new developments. I do think those size scans are notoriously inaccurate in late pregnancy. I had one with DD1 and they claimed she was in 99th percentile and at risk of shoulder dystocia. In fact she was 7'11 so hardly huge.
And the lack of dilation isn't a big problem I'm sure, still plenty of time for that to happen. I hope it goes well with the consultant.
pastaandcheese,I'm super impressed with your organisation. I've got plenty of jobs niggling me but can't bring myself round to actually doing them. I love the idea of preprepared meals for DD.
What did you make?

PastaandCheese Sat 08-Feb-14 07:58:27

sprites I'm sure you're limbering up now. I like to think that any mild pains now can be offset against the eventual labour so it's quicker? Perhaps I'm being silly but it can't be for nothing can it?

I've made some things for all of us but hers are all portioned up. I am planning on using it all when DH goes back to work. He can cook when he's on paternity leave!

I've made DD spaghetti bolognese and mac cheese in the old weaning ice cube trays and then filled my ramekins with Shepherd's pie, fish pie and lasagne so they are part cooked and just need defrosting and baking off in the oven.

Before I sound too smug I should say I love cooking so it isn't really a chore.

How are you today Madallie?

KatieChooChoo Sat 08-Feb-14 09:25:19

Pasta, you are still much more organised than me! Maybe be at weening time you could through start a recipe thread? Id certainly appreciate it. My ds only ate sweet potatoes and pasta !!

Sprite, im hoping that this is the start of things for you. Keep us posted

Madallie, sounds like you're having a right old time, poor you. Please dont let the conflicting measurements confuse or stress or you. Like Sprits said, midwives all get a different measurements, i think its more a guide than accuracy. The fact that they are having you in everyday for checks should be reassuring that your baby is fine, just comfy not wanting to budge !

Ive seriously stopped getting excited with my twinges that seem to be regular now (regular as in each evening). I get them for a few hours then nothing else happens and I get all deflated.

Heres hoping we all have an eventful / joyful weekend. Counting on Sprite and Madellie to announce some happy news by this time tomorrow........!

xx

KatieChooChoo Sat 08-Feb-14 09:26:35

ps, how do you get the name of the person you want to direct your message in bold? Im so rubbish at this. Ive only realised from this thread what ds, dd, dh and dp means!!!

Madallie Sat 08-Feb-14 12:12:22

Ha ha! I wondered the same things about the bold. You put the name inside two asterix (not sure of plural spelling).

Yes it is reassuring. All was fine today. Going back to tomorrow, scan in mon then if all is fine just wait for Labour or induction.

I hope one of is has baby news by the end if wk end too.

KatieChooChoo Sat 08-Feb-14 13:34:24

Is an induction the same as a sweep?

spritesoright Sat 08-Feb-14 15:04:28

Induction involves pessary, breaking your waters and syntocin (ugh), whereas a sweep I think is just manual stimulation of the cervix, something to do with clearing the membranes but as I said I'm not exactly sure about the mechanics of it.

I'm sure it's the same as your pains Katie and mine will return and subside without necessarily leading to anything.
I drempt I was in labour and had to take DD to the hospital and lost track of her.
I was inspired by your post pastaandcheese and am baking carrot cake but may not get round to all those delicious meals.

Izzyalex Sat 08-Feb-14 17:28:44

I'm 37+5 and ready but no real symptoms unfortunately except aching back! Got a week of work left anyway!
My daughter is 8yo and can't really remember first time round!

KatieChooChoo Sat 08-Feb-14 19:18:42

oh Sprite Carrot cake sounds delish... think i may make one on monday if im able to too. Might even follow Pastas inspiration and do a lasagna for dp and ds. If i dont spend time in the kitchen on monday i'll just sit bouncing on the sofa feeling sorry for myself.

Hi Izzy and welcome to the thread. Back ache is a shitter, hang on in there doll. You're on the right thread for support and inspiration.

No update from MrsJK, i wonder if this is a good sign or if im jinking it again for her??

Im trying the spice thing tonight = not holding my breath tho.

PastaandCheese Sat 08-Feb-14 21:07:13

Ooo! Carrot cake. That sounds good.

I might do some brownies this week as I can freeze some of those for the time when baking is just a nice thought and not a reality!

So uncomfortable today. I feel huge. I swear I never felt this 'full' last time. I'm making that 'urghhh' noise when I get down onto the floor with DD. blush

MrsJK Sun 09-Feb-14 17:32:04

I'm getting bored of waiting now shock please come out little one!

Had a busy weekend of family birthdays and gatherings so well and truly done in tonight. In bath already hoping for a (much needed) early night.

Talk of batch cooking & baking sounds fabulously organised grin I'm a little over cake from this weekend ( can't quite believe those words just left my mouth shock)

How is everyone else doing?

KatieChooChoo Sun 09-Feb-14 19:21:19

MrsJK I feel the same as you, absolutely fed up.
Pasta, ive making them noises for the past 2 weeks, specially when tossing and turning in bed.
Ive quite with trying to predict when this baby is going to make an appearance - so long as its not Thursday 13th (superstitious).

Today my aunty has loaned me her massage chair. OMG, its amazing and just what my broken needs. Bliss.

I shall not jink Sprite but its noted theres no update from her, so i can't help but wonder!!!!!

Good luck.

xx

MrsJK Sun 09-Feb-14 19:33:36

Massage chair - yes please!!

I have managed to do not a lot this evening which hopefully will stand me in good stead for the week ahead with a lovely toddler shock

I wish someone would just tell me when it's going to happen - even if it was in 2 weeks time <god forbid!>

Evens baths aren't easing my back pain anymore confused

KatieChooChoo Sun 09-Feb-14 19:56:06

I tried one of the heat things for your back last weekend, it worked for me.
You hear of some women labouring through their back dont you, so you never MrsJK!!

How did you get them smilies on? Im so rubbish with all this bold / smilie stuff.

spritesoright Sun 09-Feb-14 20:43:07

Alas, no news here.
I know what you mean MrsJK it's the not knowing that is killing me. On Friday night when I thought it was coming on all I could think was "but I haven't slept yet, and I can't wake MiL in the middle of the night"

I have 4 people on standby to take care of DD but still anxious.
I am 39+3 today. What are others?

DD came at 39 so I was convinced this one would be early but alas.

My moans and groans while shifting are distinctly walrus like, so glam!

On the plus side I managed to get DH to do a big list of DIY in prep for baby so feeling more prepared.
Katie if you scroll down below the message box it tells you how to do all the smileys and such. Very useful.
Happy labour vibes ladies!

PastaandCheese Sun 09-Feb-14 20:56:10

I had a bad morning. Bad back ache, radiating down my thighs, braxton hicks a plenty and just generally feeling very weak.

Hot water bottle and a snooze whilst DH took DD out helped and I'm back to just uncomfortable and a near constant state of self pity now.

So begins another week of waiting.

spritesoright Sun 09-Feb-14 21:11:52

So sorry pastaandcheese that sounds miserable.
Hopefully it's either a sign of imminent labour or you feel much better after a good night's sleep.

PastaandCheese Sun 09-Feb-14 22:39:32

I'm just enjoying a moan. As I remind myself daily I am in a self inflicted state!

I'm finding drinking lots really important this time. I feel so much worse if I don't keep getting fluids in. I read dehydration can set off BHs and this seems to be the case this time around.

spritesoright Mon 10-Feb-14 03:37:44

My waters have gone! It's 3:30 in the morning. The liquid was all clear and no contractions so I think I will stay put until they start up.
This is how it happened last time and contractions didn't kick off for another 12 hours (and eventually had to be augmented).
So fingers crossed things happen more quickly this time.

PastaandCheese Mon 10-Feb-14 07:00:59

How exciting sprites. How are you doing now?

Perhaps a walk and some bouncing if contractions haven't started? There's no reason to think augmentation will be necessary again and they were clear which is the first hurdle cleared.

Good luck!

KatieChooChoo Mon 10-Feb-14 07:58:49

Go Sprite Go Sprite Go Sprite. Exciting news to read first thing. Wishing you lots of luck, minimal pain and a healthy delivery.

Pasta, a good old moan is our prerogative. Wink: wink

Im 39+5 today (thats right im due Wed?)

xx

KatieChooChoo Mon 10-Feb-14 07:59:50

Whoooop - check my smiley out haha. Big grin: grin

PastaandCheese Mon 10-Feb-14 08:20:57

smilesmilesmilesmilesmilesmile

Madallie Mon 10-Feb-14 08:32:44

Very exciting sprite. Good luck. Hope everything goes well and your cuddling your little one very soon.

Madallie Mon 10-Feb-14 08:39:40

On another note, I'm STILL pregnant. 40+4 today. I don't know why but I really didn't think I would go overdue. Silly really, it's not like I'm psychic. Probably more about wishful thinking.

After the mild aches yesterday evening they have gone and again I feel nowhere near to labour which is making me anxious which is probably very counterproductive.

I think I feel so anxious because the doctor said on Friday about my cervix being posterior, non effaced etc. it makes me worry that even if I were induced it wouldn't work and I'd end up with a c section which I really really don't want.

Sorry for the moan. Feeling fed up and anxious.

KatieChooChoo Mon 10-Feb-14 08:48:20

You're allowed to feel fed up Madallie. Due dates are a guild, 2 weeks either side. I know thats no offer of encouragement when we all feel like frumps, uncomfortable and miserable from lagging our extensive weight about while trying to get other stuff done.
Your labour could surprise you and come on really quickly and be super fast.
Keep your chin up hun xx

Madallie Mon 10-Feb-14 08:57:41

Thanks for the encouragement. I hope you're right. It's hard when you're thinking about it all day isn't it? Wondering if and when it will start. Luckily I have my toddler 2 keep me somewhat occupied. Ha!

I do have a backache today but feel like that is more just because of the weight I'm carrying rather than impending labour. It aches when I stand but eases when I sit or lay so definitely not one of those*signs*.

Hope you have a good day

PastaandCheese Mon 10-Feb-14 09:09:20

It's all the loons who say 'second babies are always early'. A myth with no basis in science with a single purpose to make one feel bad when you go over.

KatieChooChoo Mon 10-Feb-14 09:25:56

Yes Pasta, they fill us with false hope that makes us think every little twinge is 'the start' of it.
We should start looking at being over as a positive for extra rest for us Wink: wink
But.......... we can still grant ourselves with a little moan!

PastaandCheese Mon 10-Feb-14 09:50:28

The irony being I was continually asked if I'd had 'twinges' by randoms in the street last time making me panic because I really hadn't apart from some back ache.

It made me feel the baby would definitely be two weeks late when in reality I went from doing my weekly shop and cooking dinner to feeling a bit achy and going to bed with tens to waking up with full blown contractions and a baby 13 hours later.

There really was very little warning if I'm truthful.

Obviously I symptom spotted like mad to pass the time!

spritesoright Mon 10-Feb-14 12:32:30

Argh, false alarm here. I went to the midwife this morning and she said it was just 'excess discharge' confused. My pajama bottoms were soaked when I woke up but apparently that's common.
She said the show looks like it is about to go so I guess that's positive. At least the pressure is off to get regular contractions in 24 hours.
I am gutted though and feel silly after putting everyone on standby.

Sorry you're feeling discouraged Madallie, it's frustrating isn't it!

KatieChooChoo Mon 10-Feb-14 12:48:00

arrr, sprite, I feel your disappointment. Was hopefully you'd be nearly there by now.
Im glad you've said that about 'excess discharge'. Ive literally just had to change from my comfy pants because they were wet but not wet enough to alarm me. Explains im not going crazy.

Pasta you're funny 'spotting for fun'.

Lets all have a bounce about with a glass of bubbles and see what happens??

xx

PastaandCheese Mon 10-Feb-14 13:14:57

It was best to get checked out. I've been having the exact same thing with wet pjs at night.

I seem to be fine in the day. Weird!

It MUST be a sign.....!

spritesoright Mon 10-Feb-14 17:16:35

I've started having to wear a liner constantly and DD saw and remarked "is that your nappy mummy?" blush
pastaandcheese your experience has heartened me. Just because we don't have a load of symptoms leading up to it doesn't mean labour isn't on its way.
Madallie hope you had a nice day with your toddler. I am trying to remember that this time alone together is limited and to enjoy it. She spent the last 30mins crying and demanding chocolate though and I have to grit my teeth to stay calm.
On the plus side she managed a 2 hour nap grin

PastaandCheese Mon 10-Feb-14 17:29:17

I'm trying very hard with DD after being a terrible mum last week with too much bellyaching and complaining on my part.

We've done lots of painting, baking, sticking etc but it's just making me panic how I'm going to manage it when the baby is here. DD never just went in her bouncy chair or napped nicely..... Arghh!

'Mummy's nappies'. Ha ha. I'm peeing every hour now and I get asked, every time, even in public if I am going to do a big poo :-(

MrsJK Mon 10-Feb-14 17:33:55

OhSpriteshock how disappointing for you. Sounds like we are all in the same miserable - symptom spotting - any day now boat!

First time seems like a breeze now : nap whenever, lounge around & just let nature take it's course grin naivety was bliss right smile

Almost bed time having survived another day with the toddler. One day closer ladies

KatieChooChoo Mon 10-Feb-14 18:44:52

Im so glad to hear that you 3 have also found your dc extra hard work and its not just me counting to 10 one minute then feeling guilty as hell later in the evening. Poor little mites dont understand do they.
My ds has demanded Thomas the Tank to be replayed about 5 x today, it could well have been 10 x if i hadnt have found the strength to say NO and take him for a walk. A walk which i struggled with, only to the shop and back. Must be a sign!

How crazy would it be if we all gave birth on the same day?!

x

BabyNumber02 Mon 10-Feb-14 19:14:16

Hi guys. I know I haven't been involved in this thread but thought I'd join in. I am also due my second baby on Wednesday and feeling thoroughly sick. I've had terrible SPD for the past 3 months so just want it over. I've been feeling nauseous on and off and I can't walk for more than 10 yards for the pain in my lower stomach. I had cramping and noticeable Braxton Hicks last week but all stopped now.

Been told as I had an emcs last time they want to induce me at 41 weeks but I'm terrified of it. I have to decide at the hospital on Friday what I want to do. I'm hoping I will have gone into labour naturally before Friday!

MrsJK Mon 10-Feb-14 20:50:22

Welcome babynumber2 - I do hope you like a good moan wink

Sounds like a tough decision but may be nice to have an end in sight especially with SPD? Wishing you lots of luck smile

All I have managed today is bouncing on the ball - feel deflated couldn't even manage a walk but have tried to rest today( very unlike me!)

Does anyone know the protocol when overdue - with sweeps etc? Thanks

KatieChooChoo Tue 11-Feb-14 07:47:41

Welcome Babynumber2. Sorry for my ignorance but what is SPD?

I have a poorly 2 year old ds this morning, terrible cough, trip to the gp's this morning followed by a visit to the md this afternoon. Hes in need of lots of extra cuddles, so i really hope baby number 2 stays put till ds is over the worst.

Im not sure what sweeps and inductions entail but im pretty sure a sweep comes about a week after going over? and if no joy yuo get induced a week after that - i think!

What stage is everyone at now? My official date is tomorrow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
xx

spritesoright Tue 11-Feb-14 08:25:40

Katie my official date is thursday. I think you're right about the sweep date. I have an appointment with the midwife the following week when I will be 41 weeks and they said they can sweep then.
I had what felt like mild contractions last night but they're gone now. Luckily DD is at nursery today as I'm planning on staying in bed all day grin. So you've done better than me MrsJK. My sleep has been awful and I've got DD's cough/cold.I hope you don't catch your DS's Katie and he's better soon.It is awful when they're sick.
Welcome baby2 yes do join us for a moan and much symptom spotting that seems to come to nought.

spritesoright Tue 11-Feb-14 08:35:19

pastaandcheese I'm sure you haven't been an awful mum and are doing your best in difficult circumstances. Your lucky DD has been offered a range of great activities. They can be trying.

DD's favourite game at the moment is hide and seek.I keep trying to explain not to play it in public (have lost her in the shops a couple of times).
LOL on public loo commentary. DD loves to tell me "it's a big one, it's coming out" as I rush her to the nearest toilet.

PastaandCheese Tue 11-Feb-14 08:56:49

Hello babynumber2. Can you dream up some new symptoms of labour we have previously failed to consider please?

Sprites I count to ten v e r y s l o w l y when playing hide and seek and with DD. I recommend it as an approach except in shops.

I have a lovely day today..... A spa day! A treat from my friend. We were pregnant together before and were both most insistent that our feet are not getting messy during birth and therefore we would have lovely pedicures.

Obviously she ended up with her polish being taken off during a section and my waters broke all over my feet with the added benefit they were full of merconiom.

Still, we are no more realistic this time and it will be pedicures, pregnancy massage and yummy lunch all round.

katie I hope your DS improves quickly. CBeebies on prescription today I think? If you do go into labour I am sure whoever is looking after him will manage to keep him warm and calpoled up and be very understanding.

BabyNumber02 Tue 11-Feb-14 09:56:00

Hi everyone, and yes I do enjoy a good moan! katie SPD stands for symphysis pubis dysfunction and is basically an unstable pelvis caused by the loosening of your ligaments, which happens during pregnancy. It causes pain in your groin and down your legs or at the top of your buttocks and down the backs of your legs. It can be mild or very severe. Some women end up on crutches. It can make it difficult to give birth too.

I had a sweep with my first at 41 weeks and as I was already having mild contractions it really accelerated things. I'm not sure id have one again but that's just me. As I'm consultant led due to the previous emcs I'm not seeing my midwife anymore so no idea whether I'll be offered one or not.

As for symptoms, everything seems to have stopped. I've had cramps, nausea and the watery discharge where I also thought my waters had gone! But nothing now. My official date is tomorrow. I do feel like everything has moved down though as I'm getting quite uncomfortable and keep getting random pains.

Sorry this message is so long!

KatieChooChoo Tue 11-Feb-14 11:20:50

We're all guilty of long message Babynumber2, specially me!

SPD could be what ive experienced but the mild verity. Could it feel like a hot poker being placed quickly up your lady area? I really wouldnt wish any harder pain on anyone so you do you have my sympathy.

Had ds had gp's, got some 'special medicine' and he seems to have made a rapid recovery with the help of Thomas the Tank, Mr Maker, and Mr Tumble !!

Pasta and Sprite you have made me laugh with your hide and seek game, so much so im going to play it myself, but i'll do the hiding, in the cellar, with a book!

Im very dischargie today - is that even a word? Im hoping thats 'a sign'. I'll see what my midwife thinks during my visit which if like previous will take all of 5 minutes. Is it just me or do they seem to rush you in and out on your 2nd? My 1st was lovely and used to sit me down at the end of each visit to have a chat. She seemed to make time. Others said the same about her.

Enjoy your pamper day pasta, im so jealous. Envious: envy But i totally agree you need to look your best ready for the big event. I keep mixing a little st topez in my lotions just to give me a glow other than pale. Ive got my water proof mascara ready and ive had my hair and nails done in preparation. Those just after birth photos stay put forever, well for at least 4 generations!! (im so vain!) Wink: wink

PastaandCheese Tue 11-Feb-14 18:59:08

Aaaah...... That was a nice afternoon. I'm ready for this baby now!

On that note we are back to symptoms here..... Lost some mucus plug (tmi) and having very mild cramps and pressure. Not expecting it to amount to anything but it's all contributing to a very positive day here.

How was midwife Katie? Hope your DS is all recovered.

Madallie Tue 11-Feb-14 19:27:54

Sounds like things might be warming up pasta.

Just a quick question and maybe a little tmi but does everyone lose their mucus plug? My waters broke first last time and I never noticed losing it then. This time, I'm not sure but I've been losing small amounts of what looks like snot (tmi), just a little at varying times when I wipe, not all the time though and no big clumps. Does that sound like it could be bits if mucus plug or just discharge ( sorry tmi again)?;

PastaandCheese Tue 11-Feb-14 19:32:27

That sounds like the start of the mucus plug madallie. I had that in the days leading up to DD. I had some brown blood in it the day I went into labour and then lost a golf ball sized amount of mucus and red blood during labour but before my waters. I was quite shocked about how much there was TBH.

That's all TMI isn't it?!

BabyNumber02 Tue 11-Feb-14 19:57:51

I didn't notice any mucus plug last time and had to have my waters broken so I'm not sure what I am looking for. I have again had watery discharge today. I feel like I should have more symptoms than this.

I've spent today watching one born every minute on 4OD. Not sure if it's a good idea or not...

Madallie Tue 11-Feb-14 20:10:50

Thanks pasta and and baby02. I've been having that for a few weeks now.

Do you know what, I'm feeling like I'm not even bothered about being induced now, I'm just so desperate to have a vaginal delivery and avoid a c section. Am so worried that my unfavourable cervix is not going to allow induction methods to be effective.

Why does my body not know what to do when I've already done this once before?

KatieChooChoo Tue 11-Feb-14 20:17:19

Evening all.
Midwife gave me a home birth box, ive a bag packed too, there sat next to each other in the hall. Ive decided to go with the flow at the time.
She has booked me in for sweep next week but i have feeling this baby will make a grand appearance fri or sat.

DS much better thanks, day of cuddles done him the world of good Hes at his childminders tomorrow so i'll be having some 'me time'.... on the sofa watching rubbish on tv and making the most of doing NOTHING. It will be bliss.

Madellie, With my last i lost what i think was my plug 24 hours before. It was like a bloody snotty discharge.
I laboured at home and when we got to hospital i had more of the same in my underwear. I totally frgot my waters had not gone!! They went 15 minutes before ds was born. We only just made it t hospital, 20 minutes!!

Sounds very much like its the start for you Pasta. Keep us posted please, its very exciting that at least one of us is getting 'a good sign' Big grin: grin wishing you lots of luck xx

LemonDrizzleCake11 Tue 11-Feb-14 20:24:02

Overdue (again) here. DS (2) starts every morning asking if 'baby sister still in tummy mummy?" which I'm not sure if its a sign of his keeness to meet her or him wanting to make sure the status quo hasn't changed.

Would be really nice to avoid needing an induction this time...

spritesoright Tue 11-Feb-14 20:27:58

I was just going to ask what a mucus plug is like. I don't remember losing it last time when waters broke early.
Madallie I feel exactly the same like why can't my body kick into gear when it's done this before.
I have been getting either strong BH or mild contractions through the afternoon. I want to the rust my instinct and say it's beginning of labour but I've lost faith in my ability to 'know'.
I guess the only way to figure it out is wait and see.

spritesoright Tue 11-Feb-14 20:28:32

Trust not 'the rust'.

Madallie Tue 11-Feb-14 20:43:29

Sprite, I feel the same. Yesterday evening had dull back and tummy ache all evening, thought it could be the start of it all, even if it was going to take a long time to get started. Felt really uncomfortable, had quite a lot of uncomfortable BH but then it all dies down about midnight. I kept waking in the night to 'check' if I could feel anything but couldn't sad.

Today, had the occasional very light BH nothing like yesterday. This evening nothing really. Maybe the odd BH but nothing else. I'm feeling so down about this all now. I don't know why I can't just relax and go with the flow / let nature takes it's course but I really don't seem to be able to.

Oh hum! Sorry that made me sound so sorry for myself. How silly!

PastaandCheese Wed 12-Feb-14 08:38:14

Any babies born in the night?!

I've progressed to needing two paracetamol and a hot water bottle. That's pathetic isn't it?!

Madallie you're due today I think? There is no reason to think you won't deliver this week naturally. I read somewhere first time that the majority of babies are both in the 40th week so there is every reason to expect your baby in the next few days.

That said I know how rotten you feel when due date arrives as I've been there too.

BabyNumber02 Wed 12-Feb-14 09:04:18

I'm still here. Due date is today for me too. I felt really sorry for myself last night as I felt the most sore and heavy I have felt to date. Had a good cry! I was up during the night as usual for the loo and had some cramping/period like pain which kept me awake. This morning I am really sore at the bottom of my belly, like it's literally going to drop off!

Is anyone else having these symptoms or am I just being pathetic?!

KatieChooChoo Wed 12-Feb-14 09:08:22

Pasta, how crazy to be excited about the need of a hot water bottle and paracetmol but i really am pleased for you. This could be it. Fingers and toes crossed.

Its my due date today but theres still no impending sign of a grand appearance, i think its Madallies too.

Sprite, any more possible signs from you???

MrsJK, how are you doing?

Wishing you all lots of luck and looking forward to seeing the updates Smiley face: smile

PastaandCheese Wed 12-Feb-14 09:09:18

I literally sobbed the day before DD was born. It's unavoidable with all those hormones.

If you're pathetic then listen to this. I got out of bed and had a single massive contraction / random pain to the point where I had to grab onto the wardrobe and whimper and DH just stared at me. DD at least had the grace to take her eyes off Postman Pat and say 'mummy's poorly'. I think I'll take her to the hospital over him at the moment.

I had to ask him to put my socks on. The shame..... Never had to do that last time.

<sniffs bravely>

KatieChooChoo Wed 12-Feb-14 09:17:26

I'll second that type of pathetic behaviour. I hold onto the bed end every night when taking my several trips to the loo in the night, just to get my balance and make so many moans when doing so - and thats just to ease the pain in my lady garden, hardly as painful as bh or contraction !!

- And crying. I started crying a TV ad last night that ive seen numerous times - the baked bean advert of 2 brothers. I thought, aww, im going two boys any day. Im chocking up now thinking about it (pathetic).
- I cried watching birth, deaths and marriages.
- And I started crying after checking my ds before bed. I just sobbed myself to sleep. When my dp realised it was hormones he just turned over and went to sleep. They have it sooooo easy!!

So if you're pathetic then so am i hun. Its a sign!!!!! Big grin: grin

BabyNumber02 Wed 12-Feb-14 09:25:06

Thanks. I feel much better knowing I'm not the only one. I'm also getting random shooting pains in the lady garden area which is extremely unpleasant...I just can't help thinking if I'm in so much pain from walking about 4 yards, how on earth am I going to give birth?!!!

I really don't want another section as I had such an awful experience last time. I just wish it was all over now. Boo hoo, sniffle sniffle.

Madallie Wed 12-Feb-14 10:30:11

Hi all. Still here too. Feeling as fed Up as you all. My due date was actually last Thursday so I'm 40+6 today. At the moment I really can't imagine going into labour naturallysad. I'll gave a mw app tomorrow who will offer another sweep if I I want. Don't know what I'll do, cos can't bare to be told I still have a high, closed cervix. Maybe it's just best not knowing. So worried this'll lead to unsuccessful induction and therefore c section.

Oh dear, I do sound very sorry for myself.

Pasta I was also thinking about getting a hot water bottle in the night. I have constant dull backache and lower tummy ache. It started about 3 am accompanied by BH for about an hour. BH went but ache still there. Could this be this be the start of something? Probably not cos don't think it's painful enough. That's right, I find myself wishing like mad for more pain.

Hope there's some good news for us all v soon.

Madallie Wed 12-Feb-14 10:34:52

Katie, I also cried at births deaths and marriages. Then again it also took all my strength to hold back tears in the supermarket when Dh dared to say maybe we should get Pepsi instead of Coca Cola because it's cheaper. It felt like my world had ended! Now that's pathetic! smile.

KatieChooChoo Wed 12-Feb-14 11:53:25

Madallie - hahahahahaha that actually made me laugh out loud about the cola v's pepsi. My dp thinks pepis is better than coca cola - but he's weird!
I dont want to imagine how pissed off you are being this over due. Wishing a speedy labour. xx

spritesoright Wed 12-Feb-14 12:47:13

Hi ladies, alas no news here. Contractions got to every 7 mins last night and I stayed up til 2am bouncing on my ball thinking it was on. Even dragged MIL out of bed who drove 1.5 hrs to be here.
But they died off and I finally went to bed. It's driving me nuts.
Madallie you sound justly frustrated!
No crying here but I do find hormonal crying stories amusing. We have to laugh don't we?

MrsJK Wed 12-Feb-14 12:55:08

Oh Sprite another shock how disappointing.

Feeling thoroughly disgruntled today <I'm allowed right?!> can only imagine what you due date ladies are feeling like too confused

Thankfully DC currently taking pity on mummy and being very good - we even managed toddler group this morning in a bid to stay busy! He's napping now and I'm wallowing.

Mw apt Tom ahead of Fridays due date - it's going to be a pointless apt right? Not sure I want a S&S exactly but I would like a mini progress report from someone in the know ( how cervix feels etc) Think it's wishful thinking though .....

MrsJK Wed 12-Feb-14 12:56:00

Actually scrap that I would like someone to dig out a crystal Ball and tell me exactly when it's going to happen wink

LemonDrizzleCake11 Wed 12-Feb-14 14:24:36

Mrs JK - if you find that crystal ball could I have a quick rub too?!

BabyNumber02 Wed 12-Feb-14 15:34:54

Yes I agree it must have been very frustrating spritesoright. I go to bed every night wondering if it will happen that night.

And the crystal ball would be very helpful. You'd think you would know when you've done it before but I still feel like I did last time. I've no idea what I'm looking for and feel like I'm almost imagining and creating symptoms that aren't even there.

I just need to wait until my hospital appointment on Friday morning and see what they suggest.

Madallie Wed 12-Feb-14 15:48:32

I second the going to bed and wondering is tonight the night?

Does anyone are any experience or know what will happen if mw says my cervix is till posterior and closed? Will they suggest and book induction to see how my body reacts or will they suggest to go straight for c section?

Not sure if I said further up the thread but with dc1 I had a sweep and cervix was only fingertip dilated. Mw wasn't hopeful it'd work. That was about midday on a Thursday, 4am on the Friday my waters broke. Had a long labour, needed hormone drip to speed things up along the way and had lo on sat at 10.12pm. This gives me some hope that my body responded to the part induction with the drip.

So it's hopeful I could respond well again isn't it?

BabyNumber02 Wed 12-Feb-14 16:07:47

From what I've heard madallie second labours are much quicker. If you didn't have a c section last time they are unlikely to suggest one as they are usually a last resort. I would think they will offer you an induction. That is the policy at my hospital anyway. I am seeing my consultant on Friday when I will be 40 plus 2 and I have already been told I will be offered induction at 41 weeks. It Is then up to me to decide.

PastaandCheese Wed 12-Feb-14 16:48:57

Oh madallie it all sounds very hard on you. 40+6 still gives you a week. I know that seems like a lifetime but the chances really are that you will go into labour during that week and one thing that was said to me last time is 'soon enough the waiting will be forgotten' and I think that's true.

Mind you, you can barely believe it when it does happen once you're past your due date!

Personally I would take the sweep (i believe mine helped last time so I'd have another this time) but put thoughts of induction out of your head until next week if you're still pregnant.

Do you have any toddler free days where you can book something as a distraction? Even just cake with a friend helps you to think about something else.

sprites that sounds very frustrating. Hopefully tonight will be the night for you.

I can't remember who asked about the hot water bottle but I can't recommend them highly enough for the rotten niggles in your back and then for putting in the Moses basket at night to keep it toasty while you feed the baby!

KatieChooChoo Wed 12-Feb-14 20:51:24

Ive had niggling pains since about 2pm that have got slightly (and i mean slightly) more intense in the past 3 hours and lasting a good minute, but......... they seem to be coming to quick for real contraction. Quick as in every 4 / 5 minutes and i dont feel the need for painkillers just yet.
They are tightening and warm if that sounds familiar with any of you?

I really didnt want to give birth on 13th but right now so not bothered.

Sprites any updates from you hun?

Wishing you all well ladies xx

MrsJK Wed 12-Feb-14 21:15:26

Oh Katie smilegrinsmilegrinsmilegrinsmile I'm loving the sound of this! Very promising indeed wink

BabyNumber02 Wed 12-Feb-14 21:43:19

Yes that founds like something is happening to me Katie! Maybe get an early night in case you need to make a trip during the night...

PastaandCheese Wed 12-Feb-14 21:54:27

Definitely go to bed. Stick your tens on if you have one of those and maybe take two paracetamol.

I swear the best thing I did was to go to bed last time and get 5 hours sleep in before it kicked off properly.

spritesoright Thu 13-Feb-14 06:22:05

Baby sprite born this morning at 2:45 in the pool and sleeping soundly on my chest. She is delicious. No name yet.
Contractions kicked off again around 3 yesterday afternoon and we got to the birth centre at 11. I was gutted to be only 2 cm but they let me in as second baby and she was born 4 hours later.
I can't believe how quickly it went.
Thanks for all you encouragement ladies and best wishes with your labours!

Madallie Thu 13-Feb-14 07:16:47

Oh, congratulations sprite. Wonderful news. Enjoy your newborn snuggles.

If you can, send some positive labour inducing vibes thus way.

PastaandCheese Thu 13-Feb-14 07:34:54

Hurrah for sprites and babysprites. thanksthanksthanks

That's lovely news. Sounds like it all went well too.

KatieChooChoo Thu 13-Feb-14 07:39:13

Congratulations Sprites. Wishing you, your family and your new bundle of joy health and happiness. xxxxxxxx

My twinges have stopped....again!

Wishing everyone luck today. Stay safe in this horrid weather.

BabyNumber02 Thu 13-Feb-14 08:30:55

Congratulations Sprite! That's lovely news and glad it went do smoothly and quickly for you. I hope to be joining you soon.

MrsJK Thu 13-Feb-14 11:45:24

Just a quickie from me & babyJK!

Waters started trickerling and 4 hrs later bam baby delivered.smile early hours this morning.

Didn't have any show until waters started going & even they were dubious as to whether they were / weren't my waters as such tiny amounts I almost didn't call labour ward.

So unlike first time and cx didn't start until waters went so there is hope ladies grin oh and when it starts wow there's no letting up bish bash bosh and baby! No mega tell tell signs yesterday and went to bed as normal after a nice bath.

Sorry v jumbled I can't possibly sleep smile

PastaandCheese Thu 13-Feb-14 12:09:38

Congratulations mrsjk thanks thanks thanks

Super news and sounds like a good experience. Enjoy your well deserved newborn snuggles.

BabyNumber02 Thu 13-Feb-14 12:28:13

Congrats mrsjk. This is really positive hearing all these quick straight forward births. I hope we all follow in their footsteps!

KatieChooChoo Thu 13-Feb-14 14:22:15

Congratulations MrsJK, lovely news, wishing you and baby JK health and happiness.
Thats both you and Sprites sharing a birthing date. Pasta shall we take 14th as ours?? Sceptical: hmm

Hope everyone else is ok xx

PastaandCheese Thu 13-Feb-14 14:59:58

I'll root for you Katie but midwife said all the pain I've had is baby disengaging so back to square one for me. Oh well. Nothing I can do about it except moan of course!

Madallie Thu 13-Feb-14 20:52:17

Hi all, hope ur all ok.

So, had my second sweep today. Have progressed slightly, rather than a fingertip dilated and posterior cervix like 40 weeks I am now 1cm dilated with mid post cervix. So not really much progress, but some is better than none, right?

Anyway, am booked for induction on Sunday am. Really hope that if I don't go naturally before then, that at least induction works.

Katie, can I join the valentines day birth day group too? I'll just cling to that hope.

spritesoright Thu 13-Feb-14 21:08:23

Congrats MrsJK fabulous news. It's amazing how different this labour was to first one. Agreed it can go really fast.
Lots of lovely labour vibes to the rest of you. I'm currently surviving on about 2 hours of sleep, baby will only sleep in my arms and stressing over breastfeeding.
Ah, the joys of motherhood.

PastaandCheese Thu 13-Feb-14 21:19:44

Oh yes sprites it gets to this point and you forget that birth is just the start and not the end point!

Hope you have a better night.

madallie it is a full moon tomorrow. Cling to that and google away to check I'm right when I say that more babies are born during a full moon than any other time of the month.

LemonDrizzleCake11 Thu 13-Feb-14 21:23:41

Congrats to Sprites and MrsJK!

BabyNumber02 Thu 13-Feb-14 22:12:54

Might be joining you madallie with the induction. I'm at the hospital tomorrow and I know that's what they are going to want to do to me. I also hope I go into labour naturally as for some reason induction really scares me...

KatieChooChoo Fri 14-Feb-14 09:42:04

Its an open invite to todays labour vides, so come on Cupid and shoot some special valentines in the form of babies our way please.

I was up at 02:15 with back pain, to the point where i had to put a heat pad on. Had period type pains but couldn't compare them to contractions.

Sprites, it will fit into place soon enough, baby sprite just needs to realise that dinner comes from mum but dont pressure yourself and beat yourself up over it. Do whats best for you both hun.

Madellie I so hope that you dont get as far as sunday. Maybe Indian for tea? followed by.....! and doesnt pineapple help??

Babynumber2, same as above. Fingers crossed for you.

Pasta im liking your words re the full moon and it rings a bell too. When i had my ds someone told me that most births take place in the middle of the night (early hours of the morning) from back in the caveman day when most predators were sleeping. Im really, truly, whole heartily not arsed what time of day this baby arrives just so long as its soon and quick!!

Good luck everyone xx

PastaandCheese Fri 14-Feb-14 10:09:54

That makes sense. I truly thought my first would be a night baby. Was very surprised when she was born mid afternoon!

Been madly cleaning since 7 this morning. There is nothing left to clean. It was pretty clean to start with.

I was stripped down to my bra to clean the hard floors by hand as I was having hot flushes at the same time. Mad behaviour and what if the postman had knocked??!

Laid up in bed now with a cup of tea and a hot water bottle for a bit of R&R before collecting DD at lunchtime.

Madallie Fri 14-Feb-14 11:17:50

Hi all. Started having contractions at 2.30am, they have been consistent and painful but not regular. They are between 5 nd 8 mins apart and have been lasting between 40 seconds and 1 min 10. They have started to shorten now though to about 30-40 seconds. Not sure what this means but these are definitely not braxton hicks.

Spoke to labour ward they said the sweep I had yesterday could have caused 'uterine activity' (yeah I know that, I can feel it but what does that mean? Is it labour or not?). They said to stay at home until contractions are 5mins apart regularly for 2 hours and lasting between 45 and 50 seconds. I hate it when there's a one size fits all answer. From hearing what other mum's say labour does not always work like that. I might be waiting around for 2 hrs of 5mins apart contractions but they might quickly change from 5mins apart to 4 or 3. I'm worried I won't know if and when to go to hospital.

Oh well. We'll see what today brings. It could all amount to nothing I guess.

Positive vibes to you all too.

spritesoright Fri 14-Feb-14 11:36:02

Thanks for the encouragement Katie at least I know better this time that feeding will get easier (way easier). We ended up swaddling her last night and that worked a treat.
Pastaandcheese the image of you in your bra, 9 months pregnant and scrubbing the floors is hilarious. Totally crazy nesting activities.

Friends have had inductions and it was totally fine, just the little kick start their bodies needed and contractions quickly got going on their own. When I got to the birth centre she did a sweep to 'help things along'. It bloody hurt but seemed to do the trick.
Madallie I think you have to go with your instincts on the contractions and you're right every labour is different but you know your body better than they do.
Birth centre wanted 3 in 10 before going in but I called earlier than that and things progressed quickly from there even though as I said I was only 2 cm dilated when I arrived.
My contractions were on/off too and it is soo frustrating but as someone pointed out earlier it's all labour prep.

Madallie Fri 14-Feb-14 11:50:43

Thanks for the encouragement sprite. How long were your contractions irregular for? When did they start to become more of a definite pattern?

PastaandCheese Fri 14-Feb-14 12:52:46

I can't believe that many people's contractions will consistently stay at 5 minutes apart for two hours with a second baby..... I don't think you should hang around when they reach 2/3 in 10 mins especially if you have a journey and childcare to arrange.

That's what my midwife said to me yesterday and that's what I'll be doing. I stayed at home for ages last time and it ramped up very quickly after I lost my waters in the hospital corridor.

Madallie Fri 14-Feb-14 13:17:25

Thanks pasta that's what I think too. It's just hard to know if this is real thing or not because although contractions are consistent I.e no break us longer than 8 mins and most no longer than 6-7 they are varying in length and intensity. We'll just see what happens.

There's definitely no way I can get on with normal house stuff through them though.

How are you feeling today?

BabyNumber02 Fri 14-Feb-14 14:38:23

Hi guys. I had strong period pains every few mins last night and fully expected to be making a trip during the early hours but they amounted to nothing. Gutted!

Been to the hospital this morning and induction booked for next Friday when I'll be 9 days over. Hopefully I won't get to that appointment.

I'm impressed with pasta for managing to clean the floor at this stage though. Although maybe that might start something off. I've been told to have curries and long walks...

PastaandCheese Fri 14-Feb-14 15:13:25

That was the only reason babyno2! We're watching the skeleton final now so the baby will have to stay put for a bit.

How are you doing now madallie hopefully it is all gaining some momentum now.

KatieChooChoo Fri 14-Feb-14 15:50:53

Pasta, where did that energy come from to clean the floor? I totally get the hot sweats, before i finished for mat leave i was sat in the office with the fan on me most afternoons.
Other than the nesting any other signs?

Madellia, How you doing??? Hopefully its stepping up a gear for you.

Babynumber2, we all seem to have had them period style pains come and go so we know how utterly annoying they are. You think ~It's a Sign~ then NOTHING. How disappointing. The stop / start has had me near tears.

Sprites, I hope you're sodding off any type of house work and resting when you can. How is dd1 taking to the new arrival ? Whats it like being a mum of 2? strange question but ive mixed feeling on imagining what it will be like when ds2 FINALLY arrives.

For me, constant back ache since 2:15am, dull period pains, nothing bad enough for painkillers, very tired, very weepy, very fed up but positive that it could all be rapid and its weekend so it makes things much easier.

MrsJK Fri 14-Feb-14 19:24:46

Sending you all lots of labour vibes! Perfect weekend to have a baby right?! wink

PastaandCheese Fri 14-Feb-14 20:09:32

How's the full moon working out for everyone? It's doing sod all here.

katie I have no idea. It just seemed like a good idea at the time. All worn out and listless now.

LemonDrizzleCake11 Fri 14-Feb-14 20:49:03

Full moon equally ineffective here. But feel I could do a passable werewolf impression at the moment although probably don't need a full moon to do it

KatieChooChoo Fri 14-Feb-14 20:57:34

Lemon thats funny about the werewolf, think I could join in too right about now.

My back ache is still present and im feeling a lot of moving pressure below. We have 3 hours left for a valentine baby so long as labour is rapid. I live in hope! But on the plus side, any child born after midnight will be privy to half price teddies and chocolates - every cloud and all that lol.

Labour vibes everyone xx

Madallie Sat 15-Feb-14 05:17:56

Morning all. Just a quick note to say, baby Mad was born last night at 9.05pm. No name yet. Contractions continued all day, often still irregular. Went to hospital at about 5 pm, active labour at 7.30pm, baby born in pool at 9.05. We are all doing well.

I really really am sending you all positive labour vibes. I hope to hear very soon of your wonderful little ones being born. Really won't be long now. smile

Madallie Sat 15-Feb-14 05:20:44

Ps. All that pregnancy insomnia! Now I can't sleep cos of excitement and adrenalin. grin.
Totally worth it though.

PastaandCheese Sat 15-Feb-14 06:50:58

Well done Madallie that's great news. Well done. thanksthanksthanks

Did you have a boy or a girl?

Madallie Sat 15-Feb-14 07:16:02

Oh yeah, sorry to omit that important detail. We had a beautiful daughter.

How are you doing pasta? And everyone else? Any other late Valentine's Day starters?

PastaandCheese Sat 15-Feb-14 07:24:41

Lovely. Girls are ace although I don't have a DS so I suspect they are equally ace!

Hope all was straightforward but it sounds as though it was. I bet you're snuggling whilst mumsnetting...... Jealous! Mind you DD is giving me a nice cuddle and I'm sniffing her hair in the hope it releases oxytocin to start labour and because it's nice. She smells of coconut shampoo and not at all like a newborn. <wails>

I'm ok apart from feeling like my pelvis is going to break into pieces after sleeping funny on my hip. Pretty sure that isn't related to labour though.

Going out with friends to distract myself.

BabyNumber02 Sat 15-Feb-14 08:52:48

Congratulations madallie. That's lovely news. So glad it went so quick for you.

How many of us are there left now?!

I've has no symptoms since Thursday so definitely need some labour vibes sending this way!!

Izzyalex Sat 15-Feb-14 09:54:48

Congratulations madallie xx enjoy new baby snuggles for all of us!

I've finished work now and 10 days to due date, ready for him to arrive now. No symptoms though really ;( only discomfort at night and backache

KatieChooChoo Sat 15-Feb-14 10:09:00

Congratulations Madellie, wishing you and your dd health and happieness.. So lovely that she should share her day with cupid. So pleased i all happened naturally for you and you didn't have to have an induction.

My back ache has eased up and ive no other 'signs' that labour is immanent. 40+3 now.
Not even got dull period pains Sad: sad
But today (im sorry to be so descriptive) i have a very sore Virgina. It feels like ive been over drying it but i haven't. It started a few days ago so i started to pat dry, today its really sore, to the point where if i had to push today I swear smoke would appear followed by flames. Anyone else experienced this????

Pasta, any signs for you? Enjoy your day out. Where you get your energy from amazes me, ive none at all.

Babynumber2, how are you doing? any cramps? back ache?

Welcome Izzyalex to the waiting thread filled with mostly moaning over due women with a few lovely news feeds of safe deliveries and healthy bambinos.
Most of us joined at your stage, so we totally understand that you'll be ready for your arrival. Hope all is going well.

Wishing you all rapid labour vibes girls.

Izzyalex Sat 15-Feb-14 10:14:51

Thanks katiechoochoo

My home birth pool arrived yesterday! Want to set it up and try out but dd1 is with her dad this weekend so prob should wait till she's back - she's wants a go in it!

BabyNumber02 Sat 15-Feb-14 12:49:52

Hi katie, no signs for me unfortunately and also 3 days over. Feeling very sorry for myself. At the hospital yesterday they said on 2 fifths of the baby's head is palpable so I was hoping something would happen soon. It feels like it as I'm getting lots of shooting pains.

Re sore vagina, I think hormones and other changes at this stage will cause all sorts of symptoms just when you don't need them! I had a really nasty urinary tract infection at the beginning of last week and ended up with thrush from the antibiotics. I was gutted as I thought how could I give birth?! I went to boots and they refused to give me any canesten because I'm pregnant! Ridiculous. I had to send my other half in to get me some.

Welcome izzyalex!

KatieChooChoo Sat 15-Feb-14 14:04:03

Thats just what you dont need, thrush at a time like this. You'd think mother nature would be a bit more considerate to us wouldnt you.... tut tut.
Im plying sudacrem on at the minute.

Curry in on the menu tonight (i hate spicy food but its worth a try) and once it stops raining im going for a walk. I'll try anything right now but not that thing that put us in this state in the first place (thought of it makes my eyes water right now). Sceptical: hmm

PastaandCheese Sat 15-Feb-14 18:55:15

Hello izzyalex. Moaning and complaining is encouraged here.

katie if I don't carry on I get despondent and miserable about it all and resign myself to going two weeks over. Did have a nice lunch and was thoroughly distracted.

Babysitter tonight so we're out to dinner except I am not sure if any of my nicer maternity clothes fit. I may have to wear my pyjamas which would ruin the ambience.

Hoping I have tempted fete by booking somewhere. I might go into labour just as we get in the car.....?

babyno2 Boots wouldn't sell me a packet of ibuprofen to keep in the cupboard for DH last time. I was interrogated and treated like a child / criminal. hmm

PastaandCheese Sat 15-Feb-14 18:57:34

I know we had a baby last night from madallie but I think we should have another tonight.

Loads of babies are born at weekends aren't they??

KoalaFace Sat 15-Feb-14 21:09:41

Hello! I've been lurking/watching this thread all week so I feel like I know you all already!

Congratulations to all you ladies who have had your lovely babies already! thanks

I'm due on Monday with DC2 but have been having contractions/painful BH on and off since Wednes. I'm absolutely exhausted and quite frustrated now.

I was wondering if anyone else gets confused between contractions and painful baby movements?

BabyNumber02 Sat 15-Feb-14 21:29:14

Welcome koalaface. I have no idea what I'm looking for anymore. Sometimes I think I can even create pains and contraction like symptoms by thinking about them...

katie completely agree with you with regard to the act which got us into this situation. I really don't think I could physically manage it, much to other half's disappointment.

And pasta what has got into Boots? I didn't have any hassle last time I was pregnant. I couldn't believe it. And I didn't even tell her it was for me! Enjoy your night out.

PastaandCheese Sun 16-Feb-14 07:13:25

Hello Koalaface. I can turn anything into a symptom if I'm in the mood and not despairing that the baby will never come so I suspect I don't have good judgement regarding the question 'what is an actual contraction.'

Nice night out and I made an effort to look nice. I did comment to DH that he was to ensure I wiped my face if u went into labour. My 'smokey eyes' would have looked ridiculous sweating down my face as I gave birth but alas it was a unnecessary worry!

I tried a tiny glass of red wine to see if it helped and all I can say is the woman at the next table and the waiter must work for Boots as they both scowled at me. Sadly that only made me want a double vodka just to be obtuse but I dutifully stuck to one small glass.

DH and I took a cup of tea to bed and just ignored the question of should we try sex to evict the baby that obviously hung in the air. We're rock and roll through and through. I think he's as unwilling as me at this point in case I moan about my hips halfway through.

BabyNumber02 Sun 16-Feb-14 11:05:17

Can't stand judgemental people. I bet none of them had kids either!

I'm still waiting, 4 days overdue. Went 6 days over last time so surely I can't go longer than that?!

I've woke up this morning feeling like the ligaments in my lower stomach are going to tear open and out will drop the baby. I'm not sure how much my body can take of the huge overhang of my belly. You would think it would just give up and go into labour. Apart from the odd cramp and constantly needing the toilet there are no signs.

How is everyone else doing?

KoalaFace Sun 16-Feb-14 12:34:55

Haha it looks like I'm just asking the wrong crowd these questions as we're all in the same slow moving boat!

The Tesco pharmacist wouldn't give me Canestan when I was suffering horrifcally while pregnant with DS. Had to wait over 24 hours to see a Dr and get it prescribed! I was sobbing. I even asked MIL to pop out and get me some and explained why I couldn't get it myself. She of course said to them "my pregnant daughter in law has thrush." So obviously that was never going to work. The yogurt she brought me did sweet FA to help!

Had a glass of wine on Friday night while bouncing on the Birthing Ball. Had no wine for over a year (I miscarried at 12 weeks and then fell pregnant again straight away) so I felt drunk and ill but it didn't help. If someone had been all judgemental about it I'd have been livid!

My due date is tomorrow, I hope I don't go very overdue. Was induced last time and it was fine but I'd much rather go naturally!

KatieChooChoo Sun 16-Feb-14 13:42:06

Hello ladies.

Welcome Koala.

Glad you had a nice night Pasta and hope you enjoyed your glass of red. The pregnancy police haven't got a clue have they! Stuff them.

I thought - in fact I still think, my waters have trickled his morning. My pants were soaked but not drenched (if you can understand the difference). I put a pad on to monitor and its been bone dry ever since. Very dull pains, hardly worth even moaning about....... yep, i just said ''Hardly. Worth. Moaning. About!''
Thats probably because im that far into being pissed off with hearing
myself moan about being fed up, uncomfortable, searching for signs and so on.
We are out for my nieces birthday lunch today, im hoping the same as Pasts, that we'll get half way round the ring road and rapid labour will start!!
Im in the mood for half larger - I know, rock and roll or what? I think i'll partake. Im also in the mood for a cig, but seeing as ive come this far without a nasty stick i'll carry on without them. But i must say the non smoking hasnt bothered me until the passed few days. Anyone else an ex-smoker?

Disappointed there were no bundles delivered yesterday.Push Push Push everyone and lets remember that each pissed off moment, nonsensical sign and uncomfortable pain is a moment closer to giving birth.... Yes, i fill myself with joy too Sceptical: hmm

PastaandCheese Sun 16-Feb-14 17:11:43

I know. I get even bore myself now! This is why you should be given a date and that's it. None of this waiting.

Try laying down for an hour katie and see if anything gushes out when you stand up?

KatieChooChoo Mon 17-Feb-14 09:28:54

Morning fellow pregnant ladies.
Any babies born yesterday or over night?
My water situation is no different than yesterday.
Im now 5 days over, with my DS he was born by now.

Hope you're all well and gearing up for a pleasant labour.
xx

KatieChooChoo Mon 17-Feb-14 11:32:02

Ive just been speaking to a friend. I told her I recall the sweep hurting with my ds and that i might give it a miss and wait till the induction - thats if the baby is a no show !
My friend has said she would rather a sweep than induction. What are your thoughts?????

BabyNumber02 Mon 17-Feb-14 11:48:07

Hi katie, I had a sweep last time and was in quite a bit of pain afterwards. As I was already in slow labour it accelerated things too much for me and I had a very long a difficult labour. I always said I wouldn't have another one so I refused it on Friday when I was offered one at the hospital. I am also 5 days overdue and went into labour 6 days overdue with my first. I am being induced Friday but I must admit I would rather it happened naturally.

KatieChooChoo Mon 17-Feb-14 12:06:25

I know what you mean Babynumber2, thats what happened with me. With ds i went in and was told i was 1cm and the pains i was having were nothing more harsh than period pains. She gave me a sweep and sent me home saying it would be another 48 hours. I felt stupid. Labour came on but because she said 48 hours I stayed at home. My ds was born 12 hours later, only just made it to hospital.
Thats why i dont want a sweep. But ive been told an induction is also painful.
Im wimping out at the thought of the pain now. SHIT SHIT SHIT.

Keep us posted on your situation hun and good luck xx

KoalaFace Mon 17-Feb-14 12:31:36

Hello my fellow sufferers!

With DS I had a couple of sweeps that hurt at the time but were ineffectual at getting anything started.

When I went into be induced the pessary didn't work and neither did breaking my waters. I was put on the IV and was immediately in the height of labour. No build up with the contractions just BOOM BOOM BOOM one massive contraction after another. I had been advised to have an epidural before they even put me on the drip as the lack of build up is very overwhelming but I didn't listen. About four hours later I begged for that epidural (heaven) and 2 hours later DS appeared.

So this time I would still accept sweeps just in case its all I need to get started. If it does go to induction I will be requesting an epidural before the drip. There's no point exhausting yourself before you get to the pushing stage.

That's my experience!

BabyNumber02 Mon 17-Feb-14 13:06:08

I have been told that they will see if they can break my waters first. If successful I will go on the drip. If not I will have a pessary. I've heard lots of scary stories that it's more painful because there is no natural build up. I'm such a wimp with pain too but I'm feeling much worse this time I think because I know what's coming!

I didn't want an epidural last time but I'm thinking this time I will have one as soon as able. I'm terrified of another long and very painful labour. Tell me again, why do we do this more than once??

PastaandCheese Mon 17-Feb-14 13:16:09

babybumber2 I did NCT last time and the teacher advised having an epidural sited before they start the drip and then it is there if you need it and can just be left not turned on if you don't. Is that an option?

Friday is ages away yet anyway so there's no need to think induction is inevitable.

I had a sweep at 40+1 last time and had DD 40 hours later. I think it helped at least in so far as they told me I was 2cm so on my way. I found that helpful and it lifted my mood.

Katie do what you think is best re sweep but it sounds like it helped last time and that midwife was simply wrong about 48 hours?

I am frightened I will join you with being more overdue than I was last time. Everyone spouts 'seconds come earlier and arrive faster' but it isn't a hard fact is it?! Oh well, there's nothing we can do about it.

I felt very down this morning. DD had to cheer me up with a toddler style snuggle in front of a DVD. I got myself together after that and took her out. I'm resting on the sofa now with my hot water bottle whilst she naps.

I have some weird niggles in my back and high up in the bump that shall inevitably all disappear in the next 5 minutes!

KatieChooChoo Mon 17-Feb-14 15:55:08

Hi all.

You're right BabyNumber02 I think we're all wimping about it this time because we know whats coming.
And you're right Pasta , Im blaming the old wives tales about 2nd births coming quicker for me wimping right out at the thought of the pain. I think i was living in hope that id have a rapid early labour with little pain. . . sigh.

Ive decided to have a sweep tomorrow.
What i should say is that last time i had a bloody show too in the night before the sweep.

Pasta its ok to feel sorry for ourselves, after all we all know our limits on pain and know whats coming. All we want is be holding our new healthy bundles without the giving birth bit!

Koala the thought of a 'couple' of sweeps fills me with sheer dread! You are so brave going back for seconds after the discomfort of the first.

Signing off, feeling sorry for myself being a wimp Sad: sad

KatieChooChoo Mon 17-Feb-14 15:57:55

On the plus side Ive managed to high light names. If this thread has done anything, I have been able to learn to use abbreviations (ds/dd/dp), put smilies on and high light names. Not such a technofobe after all Big grin: grin

PastaandCheese Mon 17-Feb-14 16:07:00

I don't think it's the pain for me. It's the not knowing when it will start coupled with wanting it over. I want my baby and I don't want to be pregnant anymore.

Last time I found the pain eased by the certain knowledge this was it and it was going to end!

Obviously it'd be better if it didn't hurt but not at the price of staying pregnant!!

KoalaFace Mon 17-Feb-14 16:18:19

Oh Katie I had SPD and was utterly, utterly fed up by the time sweep time came around. I would have let Captain Hook give it his best shot if someone told me there was a chance it'd get things moving!

Pasta I totally agree its the not knowing. If we knew - okay I won't be going naturally, prepare for induction on Monday. Or it'll happen on Wednesday night. We would be saved from the frustration!

I'm with you Baby I'll not be trying to be heroic when it comes to pain relief this time! Especially if I'm induced. I'll be numb from the waist down before they get near me with that drip!

I feel like I'm losing my mind. I'm super embarrassed for all the false starts I've had and getting DH and childcare all organised and then the contractions amount to nothing. I feel stupid and DM and DMIL are starting with the "Go to the hospital and insist on being seen! This can't be right!" But I know it's just false or slow labour and I'll be laughed out of there!

jayney86 Mon 17-Feb-14 16:36:22

Hi all,
Been snooping at this thread for a few days now.
I'm 38+6, but DS was born at 38 weeks so was fully expecting the same this time (not too sure why). Anyway had a false start on Tuesday which involved a 4 am dash to the hospital which turned out to be nothing sad . Have since been told I have thrush then my hands & feet have been super itchy over the weekend so going to have blood tests in the morning.
Hope we have more arrivals over the next few days. X

BabyNumber02 Mon 17-Feb-14 17:24:37

Welcome jayney86! Sounds like you will fit right in with the rest of us on this thread...

pasta they haven't said anything about the epidural being set up in advance but I till definitely be asking when I go in on Friday, if I get that far.

So does the drip speed things up more than the pessary? Does it make things more painful again? When I've asked at the hospital they just said that some women report it to be more painful.

I'm getting terrible shooting pains right up my you know hear this afternoon. Is this another sign or is it just pressure from the baby's head? I've no idea.

PastaandCheese Mon 17-Feb-14 18:53:31

Hello Janey86. It's the old lie 'seconds come earlier' that means it wasn't unreasonable for you to have expected a baby by now!

I reckon that's pressure babyno2. Feels like a knitting needle being shoved up and twisted?! I've been getting that to the point where I think my pelvis is about to crack in two. hmm

There are a lot of nerves for the baby to come into contact with. Still, pressure isn't a bad thing as the baby's head bashing the cervix should release oxytocin which starts labour.

Listen to me go on..... Anyone would think I was starting to convince myself!

jayney86 Mon 17-Feb-14 19:07:54

I had a sweep on Tuesday & nothing except a slight show on Thursday sad ! I had a sweep with my DS & that set my waters off 24 hours later so I was so hopeful this time. I was induced using the gel last time as my contractions hadn't started within 24 hours of my waters going. It did get very painful very fast, went from quite bad period pains at 6am to me turning into a crazy woman & asking for an epidural at 9:30am (something I really didn't want, I in my naive state wanted a all natural water birth) & my son was born at 13:45. I don't think being induced makes it more painful but I think it speeds things up so you don't have time to adjust to the pain. X

jayney86 Mon 17-Feb-14 19:09:46

Also never experience the sharp knitting needle pain but heard it's quite common in early labour. Could be a good sign. X x

BabyNumber02 Mon 17-Feb-14 20:34:41

Yes that's how it feels, like a knitting needle. Orrible! I do get the feeling like I can feel the baby bashing against my cervix though. It's like it's trying to get out!

I've just had a curry so will see if that does anything. Probably not, more likely just to aggravate my heartburn. I had to sleep sitting up last night it was so bad.

KoalaFace Mon 17-Feb-14 20:37:58

Been having pretty consistent contractions for 3 hours now. Building in intensity and overall quite consistent at 6ish minutes but now and then theres a gap of 15 minutes.

I don't want to get my hopes up if its another nothing though! I don't even know anymore...

jayney86 Mon 17-Feb-14 20:44:34

A midwife said to me in Tuesday that a good way to tell if it's a true contraction is if you can talk through it.
Fingers crossed for you though x x

jayney86 Mon 17-Feb-14 20:46:24

Sorry that didn't make sense, if you can talk through it it's either bh or a early labour contraction but if you can't talk then it's more likely to be a established labour contraction. X

KoalaFace Mon 17-Feb-14 20:47:24

I could talk through them with some effort sad I don't want to though because they are pretty painful.

Thanks for the finger cross!

PastaandCheese Tue 18-Feb-14 07:43:05

How are you doing now koala..... Snuggling a newborn I hope?!

jayney not being able to talk through the pain definitely rings a bell with me although i'm certain I managed to croak out 'the pain' repeatedly to DH as though I was aiming for a record in stating the obvious!g

KoalaFace Tue 18-Feb-14 07:59:49

blush the contractions stopped after about 4 hours of them being quite consistent.

Feeling a bit weepy this morning. I need to get a grip!!

How are you doing Pasta?

PastaandCheese Tue 18-Feb-14 08:25:08

See, I think being a bit weepy is a good sign. It'll be the hormones that you need to get the momentum going.

I can't believe that 4 hours of contractions have done nothing. Surely you'll have started to dilate? There are some OPs up thread who had the same thing and then went onto have quick, 'easy' labours because some of the work had already been done.

I'm ok thanks. DD is nursery today and I've got some errands this morning which is good as I will feel like I have achieved something and then I am going to have a good rest this afternoon.

KoalaFace Tue 18-Feb-14 08:39:52

You've cheered me up Pasta grin

Errands...getting things done...distant memories for me! I'm managing to keep on top of the cleaning that I did in a "nesting fever" last week. And that is about it! You're clearly Wonder Woman.

PastaandCheese Tue 18-Feb-14 09:13:12

Absolutely not! I'm just given to despair and a feeling I'll be pregnant forever if I don't get out and distract myself!

floatyflo Tue 18-Feb-14 09:32:39

Can I join you all? I seem to be a bit further behind at 37w3d but already driving myself stir crazy wondering when baby will make an appearance.

Have low fluid so have had lots of trips to hospital recently to monitor baby. Have a scan tomorrow, if fluid levels are lower then think they will get me in for an induction, and if stayed the same or even higher, then will return back to routine midwifery care. But my home birth is def out the window as hospital will want to monitor baby during Labour - boo!

Anyway hope everybody is well and more successful at keeping minds from symptom spotting too much!

BabyNumber02 Tue 18-Feb-14 10:05:51

Gutted koala. I would think though from their intensity they will be back soon enough and hopefully for real next time. Fingers crossed!

I'm still here and waiting. Curry did nothing. Had period cramps all night and this morning but nothing more. I was in labour with dd by now last time so feeling tearful today. I didn't think I'd get to this stage.

Welcome to the madhouse floatyflo. I'm booked for induction on Friday and also have to be monitored throughout due to a previous difficult labour so have some idea of how you feel. Not happy as no birthing centre for me and will be practically chained to the bed. Can't wait!...

No further symptoms katie and pasta?

PastaandCheese Tue 18-Feb-14 16:42:10

Hello floaty. Hope hospital goes well tomorrow.

How is everyone this afternoon? A bit of back pain here..... That's so crap in terms of a symptom isn't it?!

KatieChooChoo Tue 18-Feb-14 17:14:25

Hi.
Eventful afternoon for me. I went to my midwife for a sweep but because of my 'damp' pants since sunday she sent me to hospital thinking it could have been my waters.
Spent the after there. Waters still in tack, had a sweep and cried like a proper little mard arse!! I am such a wimp.
But......... im 1-2cm. My ds came 12 after a sweep so im holding out all hope that this will be the same. I think im feeling twinges but with weeks of thinking 'this is it' with all the signs amounting to nothing im not so certain and think I could be imagining it. I know we'll all KNOW when labour kicks.

Pasta and babynuumber2 how are you both doing?
Pasta, back pain is better than no sign at all. I hope you're right about the crying part because i have been such a mardy bum this afternoon, feeling very sorry for myself. My dp tried to make light of the sweep on the way home. Bad move on his part! When he tried to demonstrate what the midwife would have done to me I bit his head off. Hes now gone to the shop to buy me some chocolate in an attempt to make up for his behaviour Wink: wink
koala I hope it gears up for you rapidly hun.
floatyflo welcome. We all know the feeling of being ready at 37 weeks. With any luck you wont need to wait much longer

Sending rapid labour vibes out girls xxx

KatieChooChoo Tue 18-Feb-14 17:17:16

Jayne ive had them shooting pains for a few months. They take your breath away dont they. I describe them as hot poker pains !! Pasta is right, the midwife told me its the baby settling on your nerves. Some fetes have no consideration for their pregnant mothers Smiley face: smile

KatieChooChoo Tue 18-Feb-14 17:18:36

fetus not fetas!!

BabyNumber02 Tue 18-Feb-14 17:34:27

I really feel for you katie. I know exactly what you feel like. I refused the sweep on Friday after having it last time but maybe I should have let them as I'm feeling really rubbish now. I can hardly walk more than a few paces and my pelvis feels like it's going to split in two.

I've also had regular cramps which build up in intensity then die off nearly all day so wondering if this is the start of something. Probably not!

PastaandCheese Tue 18-Feb-14 17:39:09

I had my DD within 40 hours of being 2cm at a sweep. Not as good as your 12 hours last time but still a decent anecdote to say you are well on you're way katie.

DHs pissing you off is a good sign too. I thought about smacking mine last night when I was bemoaning not knowing when the baby will arrive and he just said 'you'll just have to wait' in a world weary and mature voice as though I was just being silly to want this over with.

If there was any justice it would be their turn this time wouldn't it?

Izzyalex Tue 18-Feb-14 19:05:10

Hey ladies I'm still here too!
Had some back pain like pasta and some tightening of the belly last night so thought I might be on the way but no such luck!
39 weeks today.
I'm still hoping he'll be here this week but dd1 wants him to wait till next week so she gets a day off school!(half term this week!)

Good luck and good labour xxx

Izzyalex Tue 18-Feb-14 19:20:23

Oh I forgot - loose bowels too - that's another sign right?!

jayney86 Tue 18-Feb-14 19:43:00

Hi all, bit of an eventful day here too. Went for liver function tests as my feet & hands are really itchy & it turns out I have obstetric cholestitis, so they've kept me in to be induced tomorrow.
Was fully expecting them to day there was nothing wrong & send me home, while we were waiting for the results we did a shop & bought frozen stuff & I bought a big ball to get bouncing on. Dh had to leave the hospital early so he could get the stuff in the freezer!
Hope all the aches & pains are doing their job & moving things along for everyone x x

PastaandCheese Tue 18-Feb-14 20:43:58

Oh jayney that sounds miserable. Poor you.

How did your last birth go? Is there an indication induction will be straight forward tomorrow?

izzyalex I believe that is another nice, pleasant sign there will be a baby soon! When else would that be a welcome thing?

BabyNumber02 Tue 18-Feb-14 21:19:05

Yes definitely loose bowels. I've heard that and had that the last few days.

Hi jayney86 My dp's cousin had that a couple of months ago and was also induced. Everything went fine. Good luck for tomorrow.

jayney86 Tue 18-Feb-14 21:52:01

I was induced last time on the Sunday night & my son was born on the Monday afternoon so relatively quick, hoping for similar this time.
Loose bowels are a good sign, your bodies way of having a clear out before all that pushing (sorry if that's a bit gross lol ) x

KatieChooChoo Tue 18-Feb-14 22:12:48

We do gross here jayney so dont worry, we have to be blunt to describe stuff.
It sounds like you're having a right tough time. We are routing for you hun. Fingers crossed it will all be over for you by this time tomorrow and you could possibly be sat at home, holding your new bundle and watching the brit awards???

Pasta my dp was trying to engage in conversation with me (about leadership / CEO's blah blah) when i read your line 'I thought about smacking mine last night'. I literally lol and had to explain it to my dp. You do make me laugh hun, thank you.

I recall being on a thread when i very first fell pregnant with my ds, it was in the first few weeks and my dp was annoying me to the point i couldnt stand being in the same room as him. I asked on a thread if it was normal, and some replied 'yes, it annoys me when my dh breaths'. It still makes me chuckle now.

baby2 if nothing happens then im already booked in for a home visit on friday for another sweep. They are horrendous but you just need to tell yourself they only last a few minutes and could save you being induced.... (she says while praying a rapid labour takes place in the next few hours).

Labour vibes girls xxx

Rockchick1984 Tue 18-Feb-14 23:50:28

Hello all, mind if I join in the waiting with you? 38+3 with DC2, have been having contractions on and off for nearly 2 weeks now - get a few, start to get stronger / closer then fizzle out to nothingness again! Very achey and emotional tonight, had a big cry on DH's shoulder but am unsure if it was because I want the baby now or because I'll miss being pregnant - a bit of both I think grin

jayney86 Wed 19-Feb-14 01:42:16

Welcome rock chick (mo idea how to do the bold thingy), I think being emotional is also a good sign, I could have cried at anything the last few days.
Sat wide awake in hospital at the moment, the lady next to me her waters have just gone. My hips & back are killing me, like really string period pain already asked for paracetamol so I can get some sleep, feel like a whimp as I haven't even been induced yet!
X

PastaandCheese Wed 19-Feb-14 07:27:12

jayney I was admitted last time too. TBH It was shit but at least you are well advanced in your pregnancy (I was too) so you won't be there long.

I was sharing a ward with a lady who was going to be there for at least another fortnight before having a section. She'd been there a week already with her two year old staying with her MIL and restricted to visiting. I take my hat off to her. I'd have jumped out the window.

You aren't a wimp. You could be starting your labour now with that pain? Even if you're not I checked that there aren't any bravery medals available on labour wards. Not so much as a sticker or balloon like the children get at the dentist but there is paracetamol and other analgesics to help you so you take what you need at this point.

Welcome rockchick.

How are you doing katie? Have you sneezed that baby out yet?

I have a feeling my baby will arrive at the weekend. I've lost the plot so much I actually told my childcare friend this like it was an established medical fact. She was very indulgent with me given she had given birth by this point with her children and just said 'I'm sure you're right'.

Now it's out there on the Internet you can all laugh at me on Monday.

KatieChooChoo Wed 19-Feb-14 09:10:46

NOTHING.
Thought contractions had started at 3am, the pains woke me up and i timed them for about an hour, 4 mins apart, not harsh enough for a painkiller tho. Then i feel asleep and woke this morning to NOTHING.

God, sneezing him out would be amazing pasta. Loving your optimism for weekend and ive everything crossed for you (expect my legs, they're staying wedged open just in case i sneeze).

Hi Rockchick and welcome to the thread of disgruntled grumpy sceptical woman.

Jayne how you doing hun? has full blown labour kicked in yet?

DP has been packed off to work.
DS has been packed off to the childminder.
Im packing myself back in the duvet feeling sorry for myself. Ive already had a good cry this morning while watching the news. Its going to be a looong day so im hoping regular checks on here will cheer me the hell up.

PastaandCheese Wed 19-Feb-14 09:39:26

Perhaps later today katie after a rest?

Failing that think of me..... DD wants me to show her how to do a forward roll....... The fact there is a baby in my tummy is on the list of unacceptable excuses.

BabyNumber02 Wed 19-Feb-14 10:26:50

Hi girls. I still have cramps but they are just not amounting to anything. My poor dd is getting frustrated as it's half term and I can't do anything!

Well I know my baby will be here by Saturday due to induction on Friday. I've got today and tomorrow to get this baby out!! Sneezing it out would be very appealing to me too. I've never been so uncomfortable and sore. I swear my belly is going to fall off my body if I make any sharp movements. I wish I could go for a walk but I can't for the pain. My dp has also unwillingly went to work this morning. I think he thought something might have happened during the night.

katie and pasta. How far past your due date are you now? I am 41 weeks today. It feels like we have been waiting forever.

I hope everything is going okay for you jayney.

Welcome rockchick.

Rockchick1984 Wed 19-Feb-14 10:35:25

The thread of disgruntled grumpy sceptical women? Sounds like I've found my Mecca grin

Forward roll whilst heavily pregnant would be very impressive Pasta I think you should try, but make sure someone films it!

Good luck for today Jayney!!

Rhuba Wed 19-Feb-14 10:38:02

I had a show at 37 weeks. Lots of Braxton hicks that week then waters broke at 37+6. Labour lasted an hour.

PastaandCheese Wed 19-Feb-14 13:35:22

They seem tricky to get going these seconds babynumber2. The theme seems to be they appear rapidly once you finally get some momentum going.

I'm not even overdue yet blush. I answered the thread a bit earlier than some and got sucked into chatting to everyone. 39 weeks so I'm coming up to red alert I guess. I've got no right to complain at all really.....

rockchick I'm tempted to try a forward roll as a means of alternative induction. There's a chance the baby might just fall out isn't there?!

Either that or my pelvis will give up for good and crack into little pieces.

KatieChooChoo Wed 19-Feb-14 14:01:31

Honestly pasta you should write a book, your comedy skills are keeping me going right not.
I totally agree with rockchick about filming a forward roll. Maybe the fits of laughter will spur labour on for the rest of us??

rhuba please done show off Smiley face: smile. Seriously that is a really lovely experience for you. You're very lucky. But i can imagine it must have been a little worrying being a few weeks early?

Baby2 im now 41 weeks also, i think we *shared* the same due date of the 12th??

No updates from Jayne. She must be busy having a baby or something!

So Rockchick from reading this thread have you gathered that 'signs' are not actual 'signs' and just mother nature playing games with us?

Ive pissed myself right off today by being in such a grump. Good job ive the day to myself! My DP said last night 'pregnancy makes you really grumpy'.... couldn't argue back really.

Wishing myself loads and lots of labouring vibes and to you to baby2

xx

PastaandCheese Wed 19-Feb-14 15:25:06

Duh..... I don't think carrying another person in your abdominal cavity with the prospect of pushing it out a gap clearly too small for purpose any day now would put many people in a very chipper mood.

If I was a man I think I'd just be quietly thinking that I was pleased to be male right about now.

I'm hanging over my birth ball complaining to anyone who will listen (ostensibly DD but even she's bored of me) about my back pain.

It's nearly bad enough for a single paracetamol except they are upstairs and I'm not.

BabyNumber02 Wed 19-Feb-14 16:14:30

We'll I managed a slow walk so will see if that does anything later on.

Yes katie my due date was also 12 February so we did share the same date. Clearly a due date means nothing but I definitely feel a lot worse since it came and went. I wonder if it's a psychological thing?

I didn't realise you were 39 weeks pasta. Still, like I just said, due dates mean nothing anyway!

And I do look at my belly and think, there is no way something that big is coming out that small gap...oh dear what was I thinking.

KatieChooChoo Wed 19-Feb-14 17:41:01

When the stand-in midwife measured my belly yesterday I asked if she could guess what the baby may weigh, she asked what my ds weighed, 8lb3, she smiled and said 'i think this one will be bigger'... Ouch ouch ouch

A tip for a sore lady hole after, tee tree oil. I swear by it. Ive got a tiny spray bottle ready. I'll put a good few drops in it and dilute with water, i'll use is instead of toilet paper afterwards. It really eased the pain.

Due dates are a load of tosh, along with Chinese luna calendars and old wives tales of 2nd babies coming sooner.

Im thinking things may have positively progressed for jayne - hope so for her sake.

PastaandCheese Wed 19-Feb-14 18:03:34

I 'liked' using DD's Water Wipes instead of toilet paper. The Andrex puppy wouldn't have been so pleased with himself if he'd just had an episiotomy.

The only advice that helped me when overdue was 'very soon all this waiting will be forgotten and your baby will be here'. It didn't help with the being overdue thing but it was true.....

BabyNumber02 Wed 19-Feb-14 18:22:02

Thanks. Might get some tea tree oil then. I've heard about the wet toilet wipes too so might get those.

My first was only 7lb but when I saw my midwife at 38 weeks she guessed the weight then at 7.5lb. I reckon it's about 9lb now if they gain 0.5lb a week. Surely not? I think she must be wrong. I've spoke to a few people who were warned they were having big babies and had ones less than 7lb.

I just keep thinking, I'm so tired that I literally don't have the energy to give birth. It's quite a scary thought to know there is nothing you can do about it and have to go through it whether you like it or not. I just wish I could go to sleep and wake up to find my healthy baby in my arms.

Izzyalex Wed 19-Feb-14 21:25:41

Ah babynumber2 that sounds lovely, if only it were possible!
Tbh I could pretty much cope with labour if i actually knew when it was going to happen! Being a control freak I really dislike the waiting game and not having the control!!!

PastaandCheese Wed 19-Feb-14 21:53:59

I agree with izzy the not knowing is the worst bit but there is a lot to be said for the stork in the night idea.

jayney86 Wed 19-Feb-14 23:36:02

Massively quick update. Baby girl born at 19:19 on the 19th feb 7lbs 6oz. They put the pessary in the induce at 4 & like I said she was here at 19:19, so quick I didn't even make it to a delivery suite, they had to get everyone out my ward (3 other women plus their visitors!) and delivered the baby there & then within minutes!! No gas & air, nothing! Quite proud of my little self but didn't have much choice.
Hope we have a domino effect now ladies x x

KoalaFace Thu 20-Feb-14 00:17:21

Congratulations Jayney!

Another quick update, will give more details tomorrow if anyone wants them!

Baby Girl born 19:04 on 19th. 8lb and beautiful!

Waters went 10pm on Tues night. Laboured at home for 7 hours and went in to delivery suite at 5am with contractions 5 minutes apart. They became weaker and irregular. At 8am was 3cm.

Taken to ward to labour and contractions irregular all day and not very strong. At 18:30 I had 6 contractions that were unbelievably strong and between 1 and 3 minutes apart. I was 6cm.

Taken back to delivery suite at 18:56. 2 pushes later (2!! All that raspberry leaf tea?!) she was born at 19:04, 8 minutes later!

I'm sending you all contraction and quick labour vibes!!

PastaandCheese Thu 20-Feb-14 06:55:36

Wow! Two babies. That's super. thanksthanksthanks

jayney what drama! Hope it's all calmed down a bit now and you were able to go to another room for some snuggles with your DD and DP/H.

koala two pushes! Makes my flippancy about three pushes seem less flippant somehow doesn't it?! Well done you.

Enjoy the first full day of your daughter's lives and take a moment to congratulate yourselves on not being pregnant anymore!

BabyNumber02 Thu 20-Feb-14 09:05:55

How wonderful. Massive congratulations to jayney and koala. I'm so pleased that it went to well for you both. I just hope all these successful labours continue for the rest if us.

As you may have noticed, I am still here, 8 days overdue. Feeling crampy again but nothing more. I think I've resigned to the fact that I'm going to be induced tomorrow. Waiting for the phone call today to tell me what time to go in. I suppose the only positive thing is that I won't be waiting anymore...

Izzyalex Thu 20-Feb-14 09:13:57

Congratulations koalaface and jayney86!!
2 beautiful baby girls - amazing news xxxx

babynumber02 good luck for the induction xx

PastaandCheese Thu 20-Feb-14 09:21:53

babynumber02 there's still time yet. Lots of people go into labour right before an induction don't they?

I'll keep my fingers crossed for you but as you say at least the waiting will be over.

BabyNumber02 Thu 20-Feb-14 10:29:14

Thanks pasta and izzy. Hoping something will happen today. Out for lunch with mum and dd for my last day as a mother of one...

KatieChooChoo Thu 20-Feb-14 11:15:12

Koala and Jayne massive congratulations. Sounds like both your experiences were quite wonderful. Wishing you all health and happiness.

Right, come on baby2 surely its our turn next. I'll race you to the delivery suit Wink: wink

Ive still not had so much as a twinge. Im considering getting the dyson out and giving that a go!!

xx

KatieChooChoo Thu 20-Feb-14 11:35:19

HELP......
Ive just contacted the midwife unit to request an induction this friday, they said they cant because i wont be term + 12 (that will be monday coming). They said only a consultant can authorise an induction before then.
Can any of you think of a valid reason i can go to the consult and request an induction for tomorrow??
Ive already got an appointment for another sweep tomorrow, at home, but theres no way i want another, im far to much of a wimp - id rather go through labour with no pain relief again than EVER have another sweep.

PastaandCheese Thu 20-Feb-14 13:38:13

Can you ring your community midwife for advice katie? I don't think they are keen to induce women earlier than their policy states without a health reason???

If you don't want another sweep just don't have one. Lots of people say 'no thanks'. The evidence around whether they work is far from conclusive and if it is distressing you this much then I'd say it isn't worth it.

BabyNumber02 Thu 20-Feb-14 14:33:48

Hi katie I am consultant led rather than midwife because of my first labour so I'm not sure what you do. I would think your midwife could refer you urgently? The hospital I am with will induce after 7 days late so booked me in for tomorrow when I'll be 9 days late.

Keep us updated xx

KatieChooChoo Thu 20-Feb-14 17:46:02

Im just so uncomfortable and its painful now. Im tired and feeling VERY sorry for myself.
The thought of this going on till Monday fills me with dread. I just cant imagine going into labour and having a baby now.
To listen to me today you'd think I was the only woman to be over due and uncomfortable!!!! Sorry.

Massive good luck for tomorrow baby2 please keep us posted
xx

PastaandCheese Thu 20-Feb-14 18:09:33

Not at all Katie you complain all you like. I think you have every justification and it must feel very unfair on you right now.

I know you don't want to countenance it being Monday but can you make some plans for the weekend to distract yourself a bit?

KatieChooChoo Thu 20-Feb-14 19:27:25

Ive booked a film tonight (hangover 3) to distract me from my grump.
I'll make plans to see family over weekend, they'll help with ds and take my mind off my huge belly and grumpy mood swings.

I so hope you dont go over Pasta specially after reading all the moaning comments from us lot.

The bottle of champagne chilling ready for the new arrival isnt helping matters!!!!!!
Thank you pasta, your support is much appreciated xx

BabyNumber02 Thu 20-Feb-14 20:23:59

We'll I telephoned the hospital after they didn't ring me to confirm a time to go in only to be told I was on the list for Saturday in error! I burst into tears on the telephone and they have squeezed me in for 11 am tomorrow but I've been told I might gave to wait a while. Totally unfair since it's their mistake.

I completely share your pain katie as I feel exactly the same. It's awful going this far past your due date. It starts to feel like it's never going to happen. Have you been booked in for Monday though?

I will keep you updated with tomorrow's progress x

KatieChooChoo Thu 20-Feb-14 21:26:55

OMG Baby2 i bet you was beside yourself with a sunken heart when they said that. Thank god they have got you in for tomorrow. I can seriously imagine how dishearten you must have been when they said Saturday after gearing yourself up for tomorrow.
Even if you have to wait till 6pm at least your int he right place where you can get some rest and may be ..... just maybe, the sound of other babies / labours might even bring yours on naturally.

Yes please keep us posted. We know you'll have other things of more importance going on but im sure i speak for all the regulars on this thread, that we will all be routing for you and wishing you lots luck xx

Ive stopped feeling sorry myself, only because my dp has made a late dinner for us and we're about to watch a film of my choice that doesnt involve guns, fast cars, wars or subtitles Smiley face: smile

PastaandCheese Thu 20-Feb-14 22:14:50

Or black and white katie. Never under estimate the torture so a so called 'classic'. Have a relaxing evening. It could make all the difference.

babyno2 I'm pleased they've squeezed you in and no wonder you were so upset. Not the answer you were expecting.

I've been over cooked before so as rubbish as it is I'll have to live with it. Midwife today made an ominous comment that seconds aren't always early and lots of women go overdue. Obviously I thanked her profusely for her words of hopeful encouragement.

KatieChooChoo Fri 21-Feb-14 09:46:42

pasta you need to be on stage, you never fail to make me laugh.
Black and White films, particularly war ones, are the reason im out the house on a Saturday afternoon !

Im in a better mood today, the midwife is calling to offer another sweep which i'll polity decline while i try my hand at begging for an induction today! If i explain that im uncomfortable and an induction today or tomorrow would fit in with child care arrangements they should let me ...... right?

Hows everyone else this fine sunny morning?
xx

PastaandCheese Fri 21-Feb-14 11:39:41

Ummmmm, yes. Maybe....... It is worth asking anyway and I am sure she will be sympathetic.

Hope babyno2 isn't having to wait too long at the hospital.

It's been very frustrating here. Up at 3am with regular but very mild contractions. Enough to make me ham it up with an 'oooo' but still a bit laughable I use the term contraction. I did time for a while and they were coming every 7 minutes.

Nothing since 7am though. Not even a bit of back pain. <wails>

DD woke in a rage at 6am because she'd woken up and found her gro clock still asleep. She lay on her back, red in the face, shouting 'I wake up, clock sleeping, no no no'.

Basically I've had a bad nights sleep and am all cross it didn't progress to labour.

KatieChooChoo Fri 21-Feb-14 12:41:43

arr pasta its like having an old car isnt it, all the revving up of 'contractions' with a faulty choke followed by a flooded battery. Are you even old enough to know what a choke is? they were just fading out back in '96 when i got my first mini....

Im dreading the pain when it comes to the wailing stage but at least you know at the stage theres no going back. Imagine how utterly pissed off you'd be if the wails amounted to nothing?! does not bear thinking about!

Get cbeebies on chill on the sofa hun xx

PastaandCheese Fri 21-Feb-14 16:26:24

I remember chokes. Never had a car with one as didn't pass my test until 1998 when they were pretty much gone.

Still nothing here but I took advantage of my one child status and went to shops with DD and now we are watching our new DVD of 'The Little Mermaid' with a gingerbread man each.

Hope midwife was helpful.

Izzyalex Fri 21-Feb-14 18:37:21

I've been feeling roper all day and didn't sleep well last night at all.
No contractions unfortunately but had tightenings and queasiness and generally bit crap.
Fingers crossed for more tonight!

Izzyalex Fri 21-Feb-14 18:37:42

*Ropey

KatieChooChoo Fri 21-Feb-14 20:00:05

Sounds promising Izzyalex , hopefully its a 'sign'. Whats your due date?

I asked nicely, 3 times about an induction today. The midwife was like 'blah blah blah policy 12 days blah blah blah' I refused a sweep even tho she offered it me 3 times (she offered after i asked about induction).

So im booked in for Monday. Ive to ring at 8am to see if they can take me in. worse case is they cant and its Tuesday - best not be or i'll be quoting their 12 day policy! Wont really. I give it the big 'I am' but im a soft shit and who does as shes told - expect have a 2nd sweep coz a soft mard arse.

pasta you're lucky with the little mermaid. Thomas the Tank gets VERY boring. Its demanded daily in my house. But if i had to pick between Thomas and a black and white war film, Thomas would win hands down.

Sending RA[ID Labout vibes everyone xxx

PastaandCheese Fri 21-Feb-14 22:38:57

Fingers crossed izzyalex.

Definitely nothing happening here. Starting to wonder if I was dreaming last night now?!

katie Toy Story 1, 2 and 3 will always be our favourites. The Little Mermaid is good but is limited by the fact 'my Woody' and 'my Buzz' aren't in it.

BabyNumber02 Sat 22-Feb-14 00:49:26

Update; didn't end up getting induced as woke up contracting. Progressed extremely quickly and got to hospital for 10.30 am, 2 cm dilated. 4 cm by 11 am and fully dilated by 4 pm. Gave birth to a baby boy at 6.33 pm. 8 lb and absolutely gorgeous!

HamAlive Sat 22-Feb-14 03:16:24

Congratulations babyno2!

Dipping my toe in, I'm 39+3 so not even overdue but DS was born at 39+1 and stupidly got my hopes up after everyone kept telling me that second babies come earlier!

I've had a couple of evenings of regular but mild contractions, slight plug loss (massive loss a few weeks back but assume it regrew!), feels like baby's head is on my cervix. Today I can't stop pooing! Lots of niggly cramps and all over bump cramps.

PastaandCheese Sat 22-Feb-14 06:54:17

BabyNumber2 congratulations! thanksthanksthanksthanks

That's lovely news and super that you didn't need to be induced in the end. Hope you get to take him home today and can enjoy showing him off to everyone.

Hello HamAlive. You don't need to be overdue. Entry to this club is determined by expecting a second baby, experiencing and sometimes dreaming up lots of frustrating symptoms and a general feeling that you really would rather this was over sooner and not later.

Absolutely nothing here again. Went to see some of my mum friends last night (not at a toddler group for once; we're crazy like that) and they all agreed these seconds tease you. Certainly with my first the first time I had anything like a period pain it was the real deal. This time I just keep threatening. Arghhhhhhh!

Izzyalex Sat 22-Feb-14 09:06:17

Congratulations babynumber02!!!!! Amazing news, especially as it came on naturally!

I was hoping to be woken up in the night with contractions again but the only thing that woke me was a full bladder sad. Still hopeful for arrival this weekend though! Not due till Tuesday katie

Welcome hamalive sounds like you got some early signs too!

KatieChooChoo Sat 22-Feb-14 09:10:10

baby2 thats really lovely news and im so so so pleased you didnt have to get induced. Well done, wishing you and your new addition (and the rest of your family) health and happiness.
No doubt i''ll be seeing you on a new thread shortly regarding sleep deprivation Wink: wink

Warm welcome hamalive . Hope what you're experiencing is the start for you but dont be discouraged if not. We have quickly, and harshly, realised that old wives tales about 2nds coming quicker is a load of rubbish for most of us.
We seem to take an adverse joy from the fact we can moan, mock and wish on this thread.

Same as you pasta there is no change what so ever my end. Monday is in sight. Child care is sorted, waterproof mascara is packed, extra tan is ready to be applied and nail varnish is ready for removal.

How is everyone else doing? any 'signs' we can get excited about ?

xx

Mim78 Sat 22-Feb-14 15:14:07

Am 39+6. Been having terrible braxton hicks all week. Sometimes feeling sick. Sometimes painful but only one or not regular. All sorts. Thought it was happening a million times.

given up now as being induced tomorrow.

PastaandCheese Sat 22-Feb-14 15:49:01

I don't blame you min78. I'd be the same. Hope a.l goes well tomorrow.

The trouble with the 'seconds are earlier' is that everyone believes it. I've had calls from MIL and SIL telling me they have 'feelings' it will be Wednesday and Tuesday respectively. SIL has reminded me that only this week fits in with her holiday and if it isn't this week she won't see the baby until she is back.

I know they are just being flippant and interested but you do start to feel like you aren't performing as people like when it isn't in your control. sad

OnTheRunAndUpTheDuff Sat 22-Feb-14 17:14:57

Hello all,

I've been following this thread but kept convincing myself that I was about to go into labour so I shouldn't post because then I would feel foolish. That made sense in my head anyway.

DS was born at 37+6, and today I am 37+6, so at midnight I will officially have been pregnant for longer second time around (seems to be the case with a lot of us on here) sad

For the past two weeks I have had regular BH's that build up for a couple of hours then tail off again. Sometimes they are accompanied by a bit of cramping, sometimes not. I wake up every morning with stomach cramps and have to rush to the loo. I keep losing annoyingly tiny bits of snotty mucous.

Basically, bugger all is going on, and I am going insane.

Congratulations to all who have had their babies recently. I'll try not to be too jealous!

KatieChooChoo Sat 22-Feb-14 17:46:40

Hello mim78 and Ontherinanduptheduff

Good luck with your induction tomorrow mim78

Ontherun it seems to be the case that 2nd babies give us fake starts. Its very annoying to say the least. And its only natural to be jealous, ive been congratulating a few on this thread for the past couple of weeks and deep down wishing it was me.... but here i am, well over due and wanting to drink alcohol more than ever! Ive had the odd glass but thats not enough anymore and i feel like im teasing myself so im just saving myself now. I can almost taste it. (obviously i want to meet the baby too Wink: wink )

Pasta i love it when people tell you about their feelings . If i was to go off friends feelings the baby would have been here on valentines day / last friday / last saturday / last sunday / thursday gone / yesterday / today and obviously tomorrow. Its taking all my reserved pissedoffness not to tell people to stick their feelings some where special !!

Ive took a leaf out of yours and Sprites book and started making a lasagna and moussaka to freeze - nothing like last minute.com with me, you can see where this late baby gets his laid backness / slowness from !

Ham have you had any more signs today??

xx

PastaandCheese Sat 22-Feb-14 18:18:14

Hello ontherunanduptheduff. <waves>

Can't promise any of us are lucky Buddhas when it comes to going into labour but at least chatting passes the time.

katie last time I was over due I made a cottage pie and pipped the mash on rather than just slopping it on and vaguely forking it around. I informed DH that I was trying to trick the baby into thinking I was a nice mummy who lovingly made perfect mash potato and mince based dinners for her little chickens so it would want to come out.

It didn't work but might be worth making that cheese sauce from scratch with organic yak's cheese or similar just in case???

I'm getting an Indian tonight. There's been nothing today. I've done calypso dancing with DD. If I was having a baby tonight I wouldn't be able to do that would I? hmm

Izzyalex Sat 22-Feb-14 20:35:57

The worst bit is telling yourself it's happening, that every little twinge is the start of something and that this one will definitely be earlier than the first!
Dd1 was born at 41+3 and I had convinced myself this one would be early as the pregnancy has been so different in every way. Here I am swiftly approaching due date next tues and nothing doing!

Grrrrr.
DP is getting the brunt of it but he did get some action the other night when I was determined to make the baby come - didn't work though wink

Positive labour vibes being sent out to all........ Xx

OnTheRunAndUpTheDuff Sat 22-Feb-14 22:55:13

Thanks for the warm welcome.

Everyone's driving me nuts with the stupid comments - haven't you had that baby yet / and sign of baby / still pregnant then ... ad infinitum. I have basically become a hermit this past week, I am so sick of it.

I posted something completely unrelated on facebook (a cute conversation with my toddler), and someone responded with 'any sign of number 2?'. Grrrrrrr angry. It is taking all my self control not to post something snarky in response.

I have now had two complete strangers in the street stop me to tell me how enormous I am, accompanied by gasps and pointing. Why are people so bloody rude?

PastaandCheese Sun 23-Feb-14 07:22:34

Sigh..... What do they expect you to say re 'any signs' anyway?

I'm quite tempted to say 'well, I've lose snotty mucus every time I have a wee, I am leaking colostrum from my right boob only and when I self examined my cervix I could get a finger tip in so what would your assessment of how close I am to delivery be'?

(Disclaimer: I made up the bit about self examining my cervix)

My very lovely friend keeps saying 'it will be soon' which is mad really because even if I went the full two weeks over now and was induced it would still be soon!

I'm back to little teasing period pains this morning which is better than yesterday I guess. Trying to decide whether to take a paracetamol and go out for the day with DH and DD or stay in an waste the day symptom spotting???

JustCallMeBaldrick Sun 23-Feb-14 07:59:25

Please can I join you? I'm 40 weeks today, and thoroughly fed up. This is baby number 4 - twins, then DD, now our 'bonus baby' wink
Surely this one will just sneeze out?
Ladies on my AN thread keep having theirs early, and I'm feeling a bit resentful - how stupid is that?!
Absolutely no signs of anything happening imminently. Humph.

Izzyalex Sun 23-Feb-14 08:44:54

Welcome justcallmebaldrick, resentful feelings welcome here!
Just tell everyone to bog off!!!
pasta - mild period pains here too, was woken up with something at 5am and got all excited thinking that was it but then woke up again at 7am so obviously not.

PastaandCheese Sun 23-Feb-14 09:04:22

All gone again izzyalex. I'm going out for the day. Can't stand thinking about when it might come anymore.

Hello justcallmebaldrick. I felt incredible rage towards anyone with a due date after me who had their baby before me last time. This time I have no NCT or ante natal yoga group so have avoided this torture.

Izzyalex Sun 23-Feb-14 09:39:56

Ah rubbish.
Have a great day pasta

JustCallMeBaldrick Sun 23-Feb-14 09:41:18

Thanks pasta and Izzy

Oh, and hi rockchick!

KatieChooChoo Sun 23-Feb-14 12:22:07

Warm welcome JustCallMeBaldrick .... twins......... WOW. So so so cute but i can't even begin to imagine the hard work involved there. You must have the patients of a saint and a cervix ready sneeze number 4 out. Best of luck. Just out of interest how old are your other 3?

Pasts ignorantly I thought id be able to self examine last time with ds, till i realised i couldnt stretch my arm long enough round my bump and after speaking with a midwife was informed that the parts id need to reach were tucked away.
Period cramps are just pissing me off now. Every time they come on warn everyone to be on stand by, the poors sods have a restless nights sleep (i would sympathise but why should be the only one?! Turning over is impossible without either holding the headboard or grabbing dp).

uptheduff you would be totally justified to respond with a sarcastic reply on FB or to anyone in person for that matter. Ive realised from being this over due that making obvious comments to pregnant woman will do nothing but PISS them off even more than they already are!

IzzyAlex Its real piss take when cramps wake you, get you excited and then ............ NOTHING. I feel your pain hun. With regard to giving your dp some action in order to try and get things started, well, we tried just after my due date. It wasnt romantic and we had to give up before before 2nd base. The thought makes my eyes water but im quite swollen already down there, im sure ive an ingrowing hair on my lip. Ive took to applying nappy cream but its getting no better. Sorry for the graphics Embarrassed: blush

Rockchick how are your signs doing?

Painless and happy labour vibes everyone xx

HamAlive Sun 23-Feb-14 13:19:57

Thank you for the welcome.

Nothing happening here! Agree Katie, I wish people would naff off with their feelings. Now I've gone past what I was with DS, people have a "feeling" that I won't go overdue. Sod off!

With DS I had no niggles at all, I woke up one morning, my waters went and 6hrs later he was here. All this "is it isn't it" is very annoying.

Sorry that nothing seems to be happening with everyone else too.

And yes "any signs?" makes me want to unleash the rage!

OnTheRunAndUpTheDuff Sun 23-Feb-14 14:46:34

I'm glad I'm not the only one feeling the rage grin I honestly feel like I'm going nuts - calm and blissed about one minute, sobbing with despair the next, raging anger five minutes after that. It must be another sign <bangs head against wall>

I had a fairly slow build up to labour with ds - 4 or 5 days of regular BH and a couple of good bowel clear-outs. This time it has been a good two weeks, and still no sign of anything imminent.

The baby is 'deeply engaged' according to my midwife. Yes love, you said the same thing ten days ago...

Katie Try reaching round the back smile

OnTheRunAndUpTheDuff Sun 23-Feb-14 14:48:42

Um, ok that was a reference to cervical examination, not sex... blush Although reaching round the back is pretty much the only way of doing that at this point too.

JustCallMeBaldrick Sun 23-Feb-14 15:40:53

Katie, my boys are 8 and DD is 4, so we'll have almost exactly the same age gap this time round too.

I'm certainly hoping sneezing will be the way forwards with this one!

PastaandCheese Sun 23-Feb-14 16:37:06

I'd try anything at this point ontherunanduptheduff!

Managed to distract myself for a few hours with a walk and a nice lunch with DH and DD but back to constant delusions now.

Had a cry and DD brought me her muslin cloth which made me howl. I don't want her seeing me like this really but bit late for that now I guess.

I managed to convince myself the crying was hormonal and then got all upset again when I was forced to acknowledge this is most likely another delusion of a heavily pregnant woman :-(

KatieChooChoo Sun 23-Feb-14 18:53:16

My DP has just asked what im laughing at, its a little too long winded to explain your 'round the back comment' uptheduff and it might give him unrealistic ideas for tonight Big grin: grin

baldrick I really take my hat off to you having 4 children. Lovely as it must be, i wouldn't have the patients and thats the honest truth. At the ripened age of 35 Ive a new found respect for parents which only progresses the more babies they have. I expect tips from you on forth coming threads onhow to entertain more than one child. Im not so sure Mr Tumble will have the same effect on a 6 month old and 3 year old - nor will finger painting and paper mash rockets.

Pasta my eyes filled up today during the advert for 'one born every minute' that starts again tomorrow. I dont know if i were filling up at the thought of babies or at the thought of not holding my baby by the time it starts at 9pm tomorrow. I think If im not holding my baby by then i'll have gone insane. Possibly committed a criminal damage crime or GBH - who am i kidding, i struggle turning over in bed so its highly unlikely i'll have strength to commit a crime of any description tomorrow but the thought will defiantly be there if ive not sneezed ds2 out!

ham i think the first ones are 'easy' to lead us into a false sense of security into having number 2. As soon as my ds was born the midwife said 'so, would you do it again', without hesitation i said yes.
If the midwife asks tomorrow i'll be saying 'not a fecking chance' - maybe skip the fecking, but certainly be saying NO.

I'll wish you guys labour vibes but ive assigned myself to the face i wont be having my home birth as planned and i'll be in hospital expecting every drug going tomorrow.
I'll also wish you peaceful and manageable BH that seem to go hand in hand with 2nd pregnancies.

xx

PastaandCheese Sun 23-Feb-14 19:31:18

Don't tell me you wouldn't give it a go katie. Last chance saloon and all that?

Just lost a massive bit of mucus plug. Perhaps I'm back in the game after all..... Or I'm just deluding myself further. <sobs with the frustration>

KatieChooChoo Sun 23-Feb-14 19:52:16

Thats a good sign. I started with DS1 that way. Fingers crossed for you pasta but i'll be sooooooo envious if your baby arrives before they even monitor me up tomorrow lol.
Any cramps to go with the loss??
Keep us posted and good luck xxxxxxx

PastaandCheese Sun 23-Feb-14 20:01:34

No. Of course not! I've been loosing bits for weeks but this was a bit more dramatic.

Lost bits for quite a while with DD and it didn't mean anything until I got some blood (TMI, sorry) and then we were away so I am kind of expecting it to be the same.

KatieChooChoo Mon 24-Feb-14 02:35:03

Dont know if its nerves or excitement but im in the wide awake club tonight when i know full well i should be enjoying my last night of full, undisturbed sleep.
So im up at 02.30 eating chocolate on toast. Why not? It tastes nice.

Looking forward to some happy updates on here next time i log in.

XX

PastaandCheese Mon 24-Feb-14 08:24:33

What time are you at the hospital?

There's no baby here. I have the usual thing of waking up feeling shocking with back pain etc that soon wears off so the whole schbang can be written off for another day.

Izzyalex Mon 24-Feb-14 09:43:45

Morning ladies, same here - nothing doing!
Slept really well although all I really wanted was to wake up at 2am with contractions!
At the midwife this morning for 40week appt (that's officially tomorrow) so not really overdue till then.
Is it wrong to hope for a sweep?!

Good luck katie let us know how you get on xx

KatieChooChoo Mon 24-Feb-14 10:12:33

Morning ladies.
Ive rang the hospital this morning and they don't want me in till 2pm. My glass is half empty so i can see this dragging on till tomorrow.
One Born Every Minute will be on and i'll be sweating and swearing myself grabbing the gas and air.

I'll keep you posted.

Good luck tio everyone else today. Hope you get yoour sweep izzyalex

xx

OnTheRunAndUpTheDuff Mon 24-Feb-14 11:03:22

Morning all,

Nothing here either. Woke up with stomach cramps and was momentarily excited until I remembered that it happens every day. Went to the loo and they went away.

If it doesn't come today then it needs to wait until Thursday as DH is going to be four hours' drive away all day on Wednesday. I can see where this is headed

Good luck katie. Sneeze that baby out!

HamAlive Mon 24-Feb-14 12:55:16

Morning all, nothing to report here either.

Good luck for the rest of today Katie, hopefully once things are going it won't take long.

Izzy I've got my 40w app on Thursday and last week she said I can have a sweep if I want so maybe you will be allowed one?

PastaandCheese Mon 24-Feb-14 13:05:22

That's my pattern too ontherun. Think it just has more to do with being so uncomfortable than labour but I still manage to delude myself for an hour or so!

Good luck katie. Surely today....? I really, really hope so.

How was appointment izzyalex? No sweep until 41 weeks here with a second. A sure sign no one is interested in you being a week late except you. confusedconfusedconfused

In a lot of pain here. Not contractions but constant back pain and just an incredible feeling of pressure if I'm up right. Babies can't actually fall out can they?

Have stuck DVD on for DD and I'm hiding in the kitchen. If you can mumsnet through it then it isn't the real deal is it?!

Izzyalex Mon 24-Feb-14 13:21:33

No sweep for me sad
Not officially 40 weeks til tomorrow but they only seem to have MW at the community clinic on a mon so wouldn't give me one.
Booked in for next mon and they will do a sweep then if I make it.

MW suggested trying senokot -bowel stimulant for constipation - she said it acts on same muscles down there at front as well as back so might be worth a try ladies?

Agreed pasta if u can still mn it's not a real contraction! Time them anyway though just in case!

Izzyalex Mon 24-Feb-14 14:18:09

Oh and another one I forgot - nipple stimulation?! Every half hour?!

PastaandCheese Mon 24-Feb-14 18:09:42

I've been considering using my breast pump izzyalex in case that helps bring it on? Might try tonight.

Pain has subsided somewhat but I was hanging off the worktop at one point. The baby has been in and out of my pelvis for weeks now so wondering if the pain and the pressure this afternoon was it finally locking into place? Certainly the hic cups feels deeper this evening?

Izzyalex Mon 24-Feb-14 18:17:26

Ooh pasta that sounds promising!
LMK how the breast pump goes too!!

HamAlive Mon 24-Feb-14 19:01:22

Sounds promising Pasta, hopefully baby will stay down there now. I feel your pain with a baby that seems to pop in and out of the pelvis on a whim.

I have been tempted to crack out the breast pump too. But I'm kind of nervous about trying to make things happen before they're ready, even though I'm symptom spotting worse than when we TTC!

JustCallMeBaldrick Tue 25-Feb-14 05:59:11

Izzy I'm 40+1 today, and I managed to cry on my mw sufficiently for her to bend the rules and give me an early sweep - they d

JustCallMeBaldrick Tue 25-Feb-14 06:00:11

Bugger - fat fingers!
*don't normally do them till 41 weeks, but I must have sounded desperate!
I've got another

JustCallMeBaldrick Tue 25-Feb-14 06:01:01

Bollocks!
*booked for Friday as well.
Hope things start moving for us soon!!

PastaandCheese Tue 25-Feb-14 07:50:51

Oh hamalive I didn't even notice my DD engage. It happened gradually and she stayed in. This one seems to dip down, see the door is closed so go back up again. I'm pleased I'm not the only one finding this a painful process.

justcallmebaldrick did it help? I'll have a sweep again this time as I think it helped last time but I expect I'm looking at next week as she said 41 weeks when I asked. It's a strange thing to be disappointed about really!

I'm so bored of waiting now. I'd mentally planned in having my baby today so at a bit of a loose end now it appears I'm not.....!

Izzyalex Tue 25-Feb-14 08:08:21

Good work justcallmebaldrick!!!
I'm obviously not being emotional enough!!!

HamAlive Tue 25-Feb-14 08:59:21

Pasta snap, I don't remember feeling DS engage at all, I just took the mw's word for it. This time is entirely different!

I will be gutted if last week's mw has told me wrong and I can't have a sweep on Thurs. I always thought I'd turn one down but I'm now thinking it would be a bad thing. Baldrick did she say if anything was happening down there?

This is like waiting for Christmas as a kid!

PastaandCheese Tue 25-Feb-14 09:03:18

It's much worse than Christmas! At least you know when Christmas is going to be!

Springbells Tue 25-Feb-14 14:05:49

Can I join the fun symptom spotting please? This is bloody worse than the 2ww! Been watching this thread for a few days, thinking I won't post cos surely 2nd babies come early. Pah... Been loosing my mucus plug for 10 days, ridiculously strong and now crampy Braxton hicks (usually when just want to be sleeping! ) and baby sitting so low I'm sure it's down round my knees if I could see them so it looks like I'm here for uthe long haul!

PastaandCheese Tue 25-Feb-14 16:06:41

Welcome springbells. If this were a study I think we'd be fast approaching the point where we could conclude that seconds are not always early! It is all very unfair. I've been pregnant for 18 months now...... I deserve my PSB.

It is also the case that there are two due dates the second time..... The real one and then the date your first was born. I am just about to pass the first and then have three days until I hit the second.

With this in mind I have made a momentous decision....l am going to wean myself off symptom spotting. It's going to be hard but I think it would be good for me. I have emailed DH (who has had 'updates' all week blush) and asked him to shoot me if I informed him ever again that I have niggles, mild cramps, have lost more mucus, am leaking milk, have had an upset tummy or have a backache that can't merely be attributed to carting a two year old and a 40 week foetus around.

I have further informed him I am now only interested in my waters breaking, actual contractions I can't talk through or bloody mucus at an absolute stretch.

He doesn't think I can do it but I've been living with my resolve since this morning and rather than wandering around with no purpose like a caged animal I have been for lunch with a friend, cleaned the house and had a really nice nap as it is a DD nursery day.

I'm off to make curry for dinner now because I didn't promise I wouldn't still try and bring it on!

Hope katiechoochoo is doing ok. She must have her little big by now I think?

PastaandCheese Tue 25-Feb-14 16:08:00

Ps I don't expect anyone to join me. I shall continue to enthusiastically respond to anyone else's symptoms and wave my Pom poms.

Izzyalex Tue 25-Feb-14 16:15:52

Welcome to the misery and frustration springbells when is your due date?
Mine is today and nothing doing grrr

Izzyalex Tue 25-Feb-14 16:19:35

Hey pasta I like your resolve!! Stay strong xx

OnTheRunAndUpTheDuff Tue 25-Feb-14 17:32:49

pasta I completely agree about the two due dates second time round. I passed the date ds was born on Saturday, and it was miserable. I actually feel a lot calmer now though.

I am fully prepared for this one to go to 42 weeks, just to piss me off.

Izzyalex Tue 25-Feb-14 18:41:34

Had 3 separate emails today from things I have signed up to congratulating me on reaching my due date and giving me advice on looking after a newborn - FFS!!!

My DD1 was 10 days overdue so not reached my 2nd date yet sad

PastaandCheese Tue 25-Feb-14 18:57:53

If I think hard I actually only know a handful of people who had early babies. The vast majority of people I know had their babies between 40 and 41.5 ish weeks regardless of what baby number it was.

Why on earth I thought there may be some truth in being a bit early with a second I shall never know!

PassthePercyPigs Tue 25-Feb-14 19:50:26

Hi all, can I join? Due on Thursday and not a single symptom to report - beyond frustrating. My DD had to be induced and was finally born at 42+1 so am grimly resigned to the fact that I seem not to be someone who goes into labour naturally!

I'm having acupuncture tomorrow and will start taking homeopathic remedies to see if they help to get things going and have a sweep booked for next Thurs.

So desperate for the wait to be over - feels like I've been pregant for about 2 years!

Good luck all x

Springbells Tue 25-Feb-14 21:21:48

pasta too true on the two dates... My first was here by now, think I was so convinced this on would be earlier I seem to forget I'm still only (hah!) 38+3. I love your plan, and would def do it, but having had no symptoms at all tonight I am, of course, convinced it will all kick off in the early hours... See? Lost the plot.... grin

izzy due 8th march! So still dont even really qualify to be symptom spotting that much!

PastaandCheese Tue 25-Feb-14 22:18:39

Hello passthepercypigs 42+1. I take my hat off to you. You poor thing.

I'm trying reflexology which is all very pleasant and is helping with my new found serene, non symptom spotting state.

springbells my friend had exactly the same experience. Her DD born at exactly 37 weeks and then 41 weeks with her DS. The last four weeks were even harder for her than all other heavily pregnant women as she had every reason to think her DS would be early too. Hopefully your baby will turn up soon.

OnTheRunAndUpTheDuff Wed 26-Feb-14 02:54:50

Hey everyone,

Labour started very suddenly at 7pm this evening, and by 10 I was holding my new little ball of squidge, born at home in the water smile

It was fast and intense - I guess those two weeks of bh contractions were doing something after all!

Now looking forward to ds1 coming home tomorrow to meet his new baby brother.

Good luck to everyone still waiting - hope you sneeze those babies out x

PastaandCheese Wed 26-Feb-14 07:02:56

Aaah congratulations ontherunanduptheduff thanksthanksthanksthanks

That sounds like quiet an experience. 3 hours is amazing!

Enjoy your new baby. X

PassthePercyPigs Wed 26-Feb-14 07:46:19

Congratulations ontherunanduptheduff - what an amazing experience!
thanks

PastaandCheese Wed 26-Feb-14 07:50:39

quite an experience of course!

JustCallMeBaldrick Wed 26-Feb-14 09:47:16

Congratulations on the run, that sounds fantastic!
Well, my sweep on Monday did nothing, but baby wasn't very active afterwards, with no 3am party as usual, so I went in to be monitored and all was well, and they did me another one, which has produced loads of pant snot, but nothing else.
I've got another appt on Thursday for monitoring and yet another sweep, so we'll see what happens then.
I had a Bishop's score of 6 yesterday, which I think is good?!

Izzyalex Wed 26-Feb-14 10:03:19

Congratulations ontherun enjoy your lovely new baby snuggles xxxxx
Sounds like a breeze of a labour - hope the rest of us are as lucky.

justcallmebaldrick sounds frustrating situation for you, interventions with no results, hopefully it will all get moving today to prevent more intervention!

pasta I envy your serene ness - keep it up hun!

I was awake at midnight with mild pains across belly, accompanied by hot sweats and nausea and feeling wide awake so thought it was time. Even told DP who got really excited (it's his first) but then I woke up at 6am - nothing sad
Did get some mucus this morning which is a first for me, didn't happen with DD1 and feeling cramps and bit tense across the belly all morning so far so I am truly hoping this is the start?!

Xx

HamAlive Wed 26-Feb-14 10:23:16

Wow ontherun ! Congratulations! Fantastic news and what a birth.

I passed my second date a week ago, DS born at 39+1. I am 40 weeks today. GET OUT BABY!

I should really try to channel my inner pasta. Already had a text from mum this morning.

Sounds promising Izzy, hope it is!

frogslegs35 Wed 26-Feb-14 12:55:12

Hi all, I've been lurking for a few weeks but I have a confession to make

I'm not pregnant blush TTC though and can promise I'm not a freaky pregnant lady stalker smile

I've got 3 Dc already and remember the awful waiting game. Ds1 came 4 days early, Ds2 3 days late, it was Ds3 who needed to be evicted.

Anyway, I just want to say congrats to all who've delivered already and good luck, sending my best wishes with lots of labour vibes and sneezy fast births to those still waiting. Xx

Back to lurkdom smile

PastaandCheese Wed 26-Feb-14 13:17:24

Bishops Score of 6 sounds great justcallmebaldrick surely you're on your way now?

izzy and ham my serenity took a knock when DD had a tantrum and refused to walk to the car after her toddler dance class. She actually lay in a shop door screaming that I wasn't her mummy at one point. I ended up carrying her whilst she thrashed about and kicked me in the bump.

I basically looked like a child abuser to all the people staring. Definitely a walk of shame.

That said the no symptom spotting is working out great as a/ I can't fantasise that the kick in the bump will get things started and b/ when people start with the 'any signs' nonsense I just cut them straight off with 'I've decided not to do that. It'll come when it comes' and change the subject!

frogslegs you just have had a few wry chuckles to yourself as most of us have been forced to face the fact that seconds coming sooner is just a cruel lie fed to desperate women who will believe anything.

Izzyalex Wed 26-Feb-14 15:23:31

Thanks for the best wishes frogslegs - it's not stalker-ish it just sounds to me like you're a lovely person!!

pasta I remember the tanting days with my DD1 (8 now and tanting in an entirely different way!) - f@ck what the passers-by thought!M

Xx

Izzyalex Wed 26-Feb-14 15:25:00

Ps can I admit to a creme egg fetish? Onto #2 today and demolished a 12 pack in 3 days over weekend blush

PastaandCheese Wed 26-Feb-14 15:48:33

She's only 2 izzy and she senses something is up and is getting bored but still......

I've eaten a bar of Green and Blacks this afternoon on the basis dark chocolate will help keep my BP stable where milk chocolate has no benefit. How ridiculous is that?

Cream Eggs seem eminently sensible in comparison.

I keep thinking all mournfully that I'll have to stop eating nice things very soon and lose the baby weight before the nice weather comes. I actually feel really sorry for myself in this respect despite being mega keen to get this baby evicted.

Ooo frogslegs forgot to say good luck with the TTC.

Cacraig2 Wed 26-Feb-14 23:30:13

I'm 39 weeks with #2 and symptom spotting tonight felt great today for once with tones of energy now bh lasting for ever pelvis feels like splitting apart and generally cramps!please let it be over soon ;-)

KatieChooChoo Thu 27-Feb-14 07:23:13

Hi all.
I went in to be induced on Monday, by the time they had seen to me and inserted the 1st lot of jelly (not sure of correct medical term for it) it was 6.30pm.
2nd lot of jelly after midnight, labour kicked in good style at 02:30, at 5am I got told i was 3cm. I swore..... a lot. Was given a drug that you use a clicker for (again, i dont know the correct medical term) plus gas and air.
At 7:15am i shouted 'im pushing'.
At 7:26am DS2 was born, in his sack of water. Apparently its rare and lucky?! Bouncing bundle at 9lb3 - i wont lie, he hurt! but he was worth every painful contraction and stitch. smile
I was kept in because of blood pressure, hence my delay in updating the thread but all is good now and we're home, happy and healthy.

Hope everyone else is ok and niggling into Labour.

All I can say about 2nd labours is that I had a totally different experience.
I laboured with DS1 at home with no pain relief. Not because it was planned, it just happened that way. 20 mins of getting to hospital and pushing he arrived. 10 hours from start to finish.
2nd Labour I went 12 days over and I NEEDED drugs. 5 hours from start to finish after being induced.

Pasta how long have you got now???

Happy labour vibes everyone xxx

PastaandCheese Thu 27-Feb-14 08:29:54

Well done katie thanksthanksthanksthanks

You've had such a long haul with this little boy you deserve your snuggles even more than everyone else! So pleased you are home now and can put the waiting behind you.

I believe 'being born in the caul' is very rare and considered to be very lucky so make sure you get that lottery ticket this weekend!

I'm over now. Just a day but I really did think I would have had it by now. This is the day where I got sick with DD with my blood pressure and was admitted to hospital. I've got the midwife today so we will see what she says but for 9 months my plan had been to bury my head in the sand and just assume I'll go a bit early. sad

Anyway, I'm still refusing to symptom spot and sleeping better and generally feeling less insane as a result!

Izzyalex Thu 27-Feb-14 09:11:46

Congratulations Katie sounds like a bit of an ordeal but wow! being g born in the sac is very special. Hope you got pics to show him when he's older?
It seems your labours were very different and most other ladies on here have said same.

Well done pasta for keeping up the no symptom spotting!
I've had a 2nd show this morning and feeling bit pants so yet again hoping something will happen. DP really didn't want to go to work this morning!

PastaandCheese Thu 27-Feb-14 14:16:50

How are you doing Izzy?

I'm so hot I'm sitting in a coffee shop by the open door in short sleeves and I'm still baking. Shame I'm not symptom spotting anymore isn't it?!

Izzyalex Thu 27-Feb-14 17:11:22

Lol that's just an observation, defo not symptom spotting pasta!!

Had a full body massage earlier - divine - smile and then lunch with MIL and FIL.

Currently trying acupressure and yoga poses (but not strenuous ones) emailed across by my best friend. The acupressure bit actually seems to be bringing on BH and some mild back pain so who knows?!

Rub in a circle on the webbed bit between thumb and first finger.
Same on a tender spot on the inside of the ankle, just above the ankle bone.

MyNameIsAnAnagram Thu 27-Feb-14 17:15:32

Same as ds1, contractions at about 3am. Never had a show or anything with either of them.

PastaandCheese Thu 27-Feb-14 17:41:13

My reflexology lady says that tender spot on your foot is the baby and it will shrink down after birth.

I rather like that idea.

In other news I've got to put together a World Book Day costume for a two year old. I thought I had years to go before I had that torture marvellous learning opportunity in my life.

Cacraig2 Thu 27-Feb-14 20:03:09

No joy last night was sure it was the night! Think your right pasta this symptom spotting would drive you insane must stop. My pelvis feels like splitting apart so painful so maybe the baby will just fall out without labour ;-) away to order another curry if nothing else great excuse.

39 weeks today final midwife appointment tomorrow next time I see someone will either be dday or 1week post date please let it be the former!

PassthePercyPigs Thu 27-Feb-14 20:05:10

Congratulations katie - going that far over is awful i know, but great luck to be born in the sack!

It's my due date today, and just like my DD, this one seems to have noted it and flicked me the bird. Had acupuncture yesterday which seemed to do something - lots of strong braxton hicks and persistent lower back pain all evening. Going for another session tomorrow and she promises she'll go stronger 'given my history'! Do your worst lady, I need to get this baby out!

Madallie Thu 27-Feb-14 20:54:42

Congratulations Katie, what lovely news.

I've been keeping my eye on this thread since my dd was born and sending labour vibes to you all. Enjoy your precious bundle. Will probably see you over on the sleep thread or one of the ante natal boards. Ha ha. flowers

frogslegs35 Thu 27-Feb-14 23:23:12

Well done and congrats Katie

PastaandCheese
Thanks. It's taking a lot longer than expected but hopefully soon.

Sending more labour vibes to you all Xx

KatieChooChoo Thu 27-Feb-14 23:58:47

Thanks for the well wishes ladies.

I reckon we leave symptom spotting to the first timers, they'll get more joy out of it and us 'experienced ones' can sit back and smirk knowing the real truth wink

pasta your energy levels make me so envious. If you could bottle what ever it is please do so, i'll pay top whack for it.

izzyalex whats your term now? Im loving your relaxation methods, massages are the best. The ONLY 2 times ive refused a back massage are when ive been in the middle of labour. Funny enough, there the only 2 times ive offered a massage by dp. Strange that isnt it!
Cream eggs are just wrong (unleash the backlash to the comment, as i know how popular they are)but the quantity sounds fine. I can polish off a full family bar of whole nut in one sitting. Not even get a twinge of tooth ache, and thats without being pregnant. Unfortunately for me my cravings were chilled raw carrots and chilled oranges. The chocolate stays as my period medicine, so as you can appreciate ive 3 bars in the fridge at the moment!

Sending you all love and labour vibes ladies.

xx

PastaandCheese Fri 28-Feb-14 08:57:19

Last time I wanted to lean on the worktop in the kitchen with DH pushing really, really hard on the small of my back. Lord knows what we must have looked / sounded like with me saying 'harder, harder, harder' and him leaning into me from behind saying 'I can't do it any harder, I'll hurt you'. what a girl

A light massage in labour is not going to cut it in any way. That said I had a divine pregnancy massage a few weeks ago. I'm too depressed for all that now. I just can't stand to admit I am over due AGAIN. Getting the rage now.

caccraig my pelvis felt like it was going to shatter into tiny pieces last week. It was awful but I felt like I was getting somewhere. Now I have nothing. Do we conclude my baby has settled in for the longest haul of all or is it my refusal to symptom spot suggesting there is a certain degree of psychosomatic effect at work here? I'm going for the former as it was very painful.

percy I have more reflexology on Sunday if this baby isn't out. It is much nicer than pineapple at least.

katie not a massive cream egg fan either. Too sweet for me but in my last week of work a trainee gave me a cream egg because he thought I would like it and it was great with a cup of tea. I was quite driven to emotion at the gesture from a 22 year old man.

frogslegs all the waiting is just so frustrating throughout the entire process isn't it? I've said it before and I'll say it again. The stork in the night is the way this should all be done.

<waves to Madallie and her baby>

Izzyalex Fri 28-Feb-14 10:26:59

40+3 today and nothing exciting going on - same old BH, minor cramps and backache. The acupressure just caused BH and nothing else!

Been dancing around this morning while changing bedding in the hope it gets things moving but have had to sit down for brew and rest.

DD1 is with her dad this weekend and he is a complete arse so although I want my baby out, I know there will be problems in getting her home to meet her new brother cos of her f#ckwit father sad and confused

PastaandCheese Fri 28-Feb-14 12:50:46

That does sound hard Izzy. Is she back Sunday?

My mother rang this morning. We don't enjoy the closest of relationships anyway but today was bad. I hadn't even said hello and she boomed 'any twinges'. I really hate that phrase. From what I recall there is no way anyone could describe contractions as twinges. They bloody hurt right?!

Undeterred by my stony silence of a response she then asked 'do you think of it in there just getting bigger and bigger everyday'?

Nice, helpful and positive all summed up in one sentence. angry

Phoned DH at work just to complain. I only ever ring in an emergency. I'm supposed to text or email trivia. He answered all in a panic thinking the baby was coming. As if!

Izzyalex Fri 28-Feb-14 13:19:49

Oh no that is not exactly very sensitive pasta!! She's obviously forgotten what it's like to be heavily pregnant - surprised you didn't get the lecture about us having it easy now with all the pain relief available and how in our parents generation they just had to manage?!

Yep DD1 will be back Sunday evening but it's really important to me that she feels a part of the 'new' family and not left out. Her dad is not exactly helpful or supportive and doesn't seem to understand the impact on her of having a baby brother - he thinks it is my business and nothing to do with her - deluded!

I've resorted to raspberry leaf tea (not too bad actually) and was recommended a clary sage oil belly massage by a friend - luckily have a good organic / herbal shop nearby so off to try the belly rub now!

Cacraig2 Fri 28-Feb-14 19:52:33

39+1 still counting and feeling the pain literally of all you overdue ladies!! Please god don't make me go over I am verging on requiring sectioned as it is. Curry was good last night but hardly a bh as a result.

Was 40+3 with dd1 but had no symptoms started with very spectacular waters breaking when my dog jumped on me with his squeaky toy! Keep asking dp to throw the toy at me to see if dog can cause same effect again ;-)

Had midwife today 3-4/5ths engaged not sure that means anything?
Considering reflexology or acupuncture if no joy by Monday but sceptical that positive results heard about would have occurred anyway as let's face it all the ladies who try it were going to go any day anyway?! Do people think worth considering?

Congrats to all the ladies who have their wee bundle of joys already and positive labour vibes to everyone 'patiently' waiting xx

BabyNumber02 Fri 28-Feb-14 21:17:07

Congratulations katie. I'm really pleased for you. I know we had the same due date so just had a quick look to see if you had had your baby yet. My ds2 is a week old today and I can't believe how much it's flown. Precious times!

PastaandCheese Sat 01-Mar-14 07:53:51

Izzyalex I've been on the tea for some time now. I think it's supposed to make pushing easier? I could take all this waiting if the reward was an easy birth. It works like that surely?!

I'm sure your DD will feel like she is part of a new family. Have you got her a little gift from the baby? My DD has a toy pram hidden in a wardrobe from her new sibling. Seems a long time ago we built it and hid it there!

Cacraig there is some evidence reflexology / acupuncture can work. I think it's like sweeps etc. you need to be on your way anyway. I do find it very relaxing though so even though it isn't working for me it's been a lovely distraction.

frogslegs35 Sat 01-Mar-14 12:35:31

The stork in the night is the way this should all be done.
smile smile If only.

Still got my fx for you all.
Out of curiosity have any of you tried nipple stimulation?
I'd never even thought about doing it in previous pregs (long time ago), It wasn't until recently that I read about it tbh, but would of tried had I known.

PastaandCheese Sat 01-Mar-14 16:25:38

I've tried everything frogslegs. I even tried using my breast pump.

It brought on some strongish contractions but they soon stopped. I can see how it would really help if you were ready to go into labour anyway. Clearly I wasn't. hmm

Izzyalex Sat 01-Mar-14 16:27:48

Quick update ladies - waters broke at 2.30pm yesterday afternoon. About 20mins after clary sage oil belly rub!!
MW came at 3pm and was 2cm.
Mild contractions every 5-10 mins from 5pm.

Managed to get little bit of sleep (about 2 hrs) before proper contractions started around 1am. Strong but only lasting max 2 mins.
TENS machine worked a treat.

MW came back around 3am, had entonox only and my beautiful baby boy was born at 5.35am in my bed. 7 pounds 13.

Didn't get chance to get to the pool as things moved too fast but gave birth on my knees on my bed which was fine.
2nd degree tear unfortunately due to little man having hand on head as he exited but MW is perineal specialist so sorted me out with very little pain.

Even managed some sleep this afternoon!

Xx good luck ladies xx

frogslegs35 Sat 01-Mar-14 17:44:44

Wow!
Well done and huge congrats Izzy thanks

pasta boo to the pumping/nipple stimulation.
Go get some of that clary sage oil belly rub, that Izzy used.

I'm willing you to pop!

PassthePercyPigs Sat 01-Mar-14 17:58:27

Congratulations Izzy - sounds like you had a great experience! I'm so trying a clary sage belly rub tonight! X

frogslegs35 Sat 01-Mar-14 18:10:14

Good luck with it Pass

PastaandCheese Sat 01-Mar-14 19:10:53

Wow. Congratulations izzyalex thanksthanksthanksthanks

That's wonderful news. Sounds like it went really well for you.

It's your DP's first isn't it? Hope he is recovering too!

I've got clary sage Radox..... Not sure that counts?? DD just gone to bed so now would be good. Off to scrub kitchen floors by hand AGAIN!

frogslegs35 Sat 01-Mar-14 20:17:31

I've got clary sage Radox
it's got to be worth a try smile

Make sure you're crawling when washing those floors, my sis rather wasted her time washing hers as her waters went while doing it.
Apparently the mw told her the crawling position is good to get things moving, due to babies position and contact on the cervix.
I think she said she tried one day for 30 mins and felt some strong contractions that went away so she done it again the next day and it worked.
Again though I think baby has to be 'ready'.

Cacraig2 Sat 01-Mar-14 21:55:51

Congratulations izzyalex that sounded a lovely birth experience (as they go!) and all the best with your addition to the family.

Away to buy some sage oil tomorrow and start rubbing x

PastaandCheese Sun 02-Mar-14 06:08:10

<insert hysterical sobs>

Another day begins without a baby. And it began at 5.30 with a complaining 2 year old. What has she got to complain about??

Cacraig2 Sun 02-Mar-14 18:03:40

This has been worst day yet! Dd seems determined to wind me up at every opportunity too it's as if they know we are at breaking point. Then feel so guilty not her fault I am knackered, depressed and physically unable to move and dressing either of us seems like an endurance event!! Especially as she fits watching lady and the trsmp in fairy costume waving her wand to do spell to get baby to come lol hopefully we all go tonight!!

PastaandCheese Sun 02-Mar-14 22:25:59

I hope so cacraig. I've found today very hard too. DH went to work as he's so snowed under and DD had a stomach upset. Not the greatest day ever.

Cacraig2 Sun 02-Mar-14 22:33:22

Good luck pastaandcheese here's hoping x

KatieChooChoo Sun 02-Mar-14 23:06:13

Izzy Massive congratulations. Wishing you and your new bundle health and happiness.

Pasta im going to keep checking this thread till I can write something similar to you....... may be your dd complaining of a tummy upset is a sign of impending labour for you and shes having sympathetic pains for you ??? .............. or may be shes caught a tummy bug.

xx

PastaandCheese Mon 03-Mar-14 06:47:01

I think you could be waiting a while Katie!

Can't believe I've gone later than I did the first time. Well, I can. Enough people on this thread have experienced the same but it is still very frustrating.

Hope your two little DSs are getting on great.

Cacraig2 Mon 03-Mar-14 11:32:43

Well if symptom watching was anything to go by I am sure I would have had baby last night. Cramping abdominal pains which woke me 3x in night, back and pelvis pain, pressure and stabbing down below (don't know how waters didn't break!) and had to poo 3x in night also! Was sure it was my time grrr! 39 +4 today and terrified going to go past edd on Thursday. Dd1 at nursery today so shaved legs!, walked dog and cleaned house already this morning so anytime now would be good.
Any hope pasta? X

PastaandCheese Mon 03-Mar-14 13:15:40

I had to read 'Mog The Forgetful Cat' from the loo as i couldn't leave it earlier.

Not sure that says anything other than I'm soft with my toddler and should start locking her out though?!

Fingers crossed for you cacraig. I just find it annoying how one day changes you to 'overdue' and randoms start asking when you'll be induced as though that is surely the next natural conclusion!

Cacraig2 Mon 03-Mar-14 16:29:33

I know what you mean pasta it's not so much the going past the EDD it's the having to wait even longer when you are desperate to meet your new little one and stop the torture of being heavily pregnant. Maybe they should give us a date 2weeks later than their EDD so when we go prior to that it will seem a bonus. Stop us symptom spotting!

PastaandCheese Tue 04-Mar-14 06:46:01

That's an idea cacraig. I'm getting a bit bitter now. I keep thinking at nearly a week over I've been heavily, heavily pregnant for nearly 6 weeks longer across both pregnancies than a woman who had her babies at 38 weeks.

It's a very sobering and depressing thought. Think I might have to give into a small weep today to indulge my self pity.

PassthePercyPigs Tue 04-Mar-14 07:58:33

Hi all, still no news here and now my husband is panicking that he's not going to be able to take his full paternity leave as he has a big work project starting! Added pressure I don't need right now! I'm 40+5 now and given that my DD was induced and finally arrived at 42+1 I'm starting to feel pretty despondent that I'm going to have a repeat performance.

I had an hour and a half of regular contractions on Monday night but nothing since then and have got an acupuncture induction booked tomorrow and a sweep on Thursday. Between them I'm praying they'll get the baby moving!

Good luck all - it feels like forever but we are all nearly there x

Cacraig2 Tue 04-Mar-14 15:44:35

I cried last night and this morning feel very emotional. No labour signs at all (not that I'm spotting pasta). Took dd swimming this morning and felt better but feel awful this afternoon so tired and shaky ��. Dp picked up dd from her nursery session this afternoon and she had a melt down that it wasn't me ah the guilt starts already.

PastaandCheese Tue 04-Mar-14 16:47:36

How was the acupuncture percy? I chose reflexology as it seemed more relaxing but wondering if acupuncture may be worth a go? <desperate>

caccraig I had a good cry last night about how unfair it all is. DH was spectacularly unhelpful when he pointed out how much worse some people have it. I know he is right but I rather think the point is how many people have had their babies by this point!

I've found today ok because my DD has been in nursery. I do not know how I will get through tomorrow with her here. I'm fit to burst and just generally 'in pain' albeit the wrong sort of pain.

I just don't think I am going to go into labour now. Even though I have a week to go before a potential induction date I am just starting to feel that is the direction I am heading in. I was home and receiving all my visitors by this point with DD.

MatildasCat Tue 04-Mar-14 21:03:45

Can I join the fun despair of waiting?

I had DD at 39 weeks. It was my due date yesterday and I'm starting to get a wee bit anxious.

I'm trying to remain positive and enjoy some special time with DD (2 years old) before she has a rival for my attention. But one of my friends has texted every day this week asking if there are "any signs"......argh!!!! She's actually pregnant with her first baby so I know she's just excited but it's doing my head in!

PastaandCheese Tue 04-Mar-14 22:22:47

Hello Matildascat. The two due dates (the date you had your first and the due date) is rubbish isn't it? I can entirely sympathise.

As for 'any signs' I flit between intense rage at the sender and an acknowledgement I am lucky to have friends who care.

PassthePercyPigs Tue 04-Mar-14 23:19:22

Welcome matildascat! The 'any signs / twinges / movement?' Texts are driving me insane as well. Lovely to be remembered but at the same time at do they want; a text when we lose our mucus plug?!

The acupuncture was actually surprisingly relaxing pasta (once the needles were in!) After the first session I had strong braxton hicks all evening. Second session didn't seem to have much of an effect but I've got a hardcore induction session while DD is in nursery tomorrow. Hoping that combined with the sweep on Thursday I might have some luck over the weekend.

My midwife friend came over this evening to listen to the baby's heartbeat and she said it seems very happy and relaxed and its actually helped me to chill out too. Whatever happens I'll have a baby by next weekend and in the great scheme of things that's not too far off. The thing I'm finding really challenging is keeping up with my 3 yr old DD - I feel she's really playing up at the moment and I just do not have the patience!

Fattyfirsttime Wed 05-Mar-14 08:39:04

I have been holding off joining in this chat in the eternal hope that baby would show up, but it hasnt. First baby came at 37 weeks, now 39 + 4 with number 2 so feel like he/she should be here by now!

Yonineedaminute Wed 05-Mar-14 09:32:47

Am joining this thread! Am now 41+1 which is when ds arrived. Had a second sweep yesterday and thought things were kicking off last night. Braxton hicks actually became painful and I had a bit more of a 'show' as well. Was then awake most of the night with quite painful contractions although really irregular and they were all in my back. This is how my last labour started (and 3 days later ds was born) so was a bit disappointed that it was so similar as it was a long haul, but was glad something was happening - started planning what to do with ds in the morning, dh with work etc.

Took a couple of paracetamol, tried to get some sleep at about 5 and........ This morning - nothing. Everything has completely stopped sad so now I am just knackered with nothing to show for it and a 2 year old to look after all day. It doesn't help that I am still not fully over a cold I have had forever, so have got a blocked ear and remnants of a sore throat as well. Am so miserable.

I also keep getting the 'any signs' texts and feel like being really rude in my reply but of course I won't!

I also keep getting the rage when I think about all the people who told me that 2nd babies often come earlier and really quickly etc. I worked until 38 and a half weeks so had to hear this quite a lot in my last few weeks at work. They do NOT jeffing come early or quickly!!!!!!!

Sorry about the essay - it is nice to know I am not alone though!

PastaandCheese Wed 05-Mar-14 09:48:20

yonineedaminute you are most definitely not alone. 41 weeks here. DD born at 40+3.

Strong contractions from 7pm (DD's bedtime) every 5 minutes but only lasting 40 seconds. Died off so I went to bed.

Woke at 3am with even stronger contractions lasting 1min 20 but only every 12 minutes or so. Carried on until 6.30am by which point I'd showered, dressed and eaten something in the stupid belief that they would get closer and I'd be on my way.

They were definitely contractions. Very painful with peaks.

Nothing from the moment my 2 year old woke. confused I would say 'I could cry' but I've already done that this morning. DH stayed home for a bit and I've walked round the village to no avail. He's gone to work now and DD is watching CBeebies.

What a pair we are?! I'm also knackered and despairing that this has already gone on longer than my first labour albeit stop start.

PastaandCheese Wed 05-Mar-14 09:51:40

I forgot..... Also losing blood stained mucus at a rapid rate. I was hours away from giving birth when that happened with my first.

When will it ever end?

PastaandCheese Wed 05-Mar-14 09:53:02

Final thought..... Yes, this does mean my no symptom spotting resolution is over. It did me no good in the end like everything else I've tried

Yonineedaminute Wed 05-Mar-14 10:24:08

Oh pasta am rooting for you, we sound so similar! Also watching cebeebies here......

Springbells Wed 05-Mar-14 11:11:55

Hello everyone, I'm still here too. Been popping the raspberry leaf tea capsules and, ahem, other triggers but no luck. Sweep today so keeping most parts of my body crossed it might do something!

pasta all sounds really promising, although in our state of mind probably not what you want to hear, hopes up and down all the time at the moment!

PastaandCheese Wed 05-Mar-14 11:18:26

Really hope these sweeps work springbells and yoni. Got one tomorrow as they won't sweep until 41 weeks here apart from first baby. I'm sure it helped last time.

Obviously I hope not to make tomorrow but who knows? Trying to believe that a stop start labour means it will be quick when it gets to a point where it doesn't stop? Having said that I believed this baby would be earlier than the last!

frogslegs35 Wed 05-Mar-14 11:59:38

Still quietly watching you all, keeping my fx and willing your babies to make an appearance.

Good luck with the sweeps Xx

onceipopicantstop Wed 05-Mar-14 14:24:17

Hi can I join in? 40 weeks today and.....nothing! Occasional back pain and bh but have had these for weeks. Dc1 arrived at 40+9 so probably being optimistic that this one will be on time but still keeping fingers crossed! !

MatildasCat Wed 05-Mar-14 15:15:14

Thanks for the welcome.

How frustrating for those of you being teased by contractions but hopefully that means you're gearing up for the main event. A few friends have had stop/start labours with number 2.

PastaandCheese Wed 05-Mar-14 15:41:00

Starting again here. Only every 10 minutes but dear me, they are painful and quite long lasting. Surely this is doing something?

This is just torture. My DD was normal - contractions, get worse, give birth. I'd have had her twice in the window i've been stopping and starting this time. Surely this is a boy with all this messing about?

Surely this can't stop again?

PastaandCheese Wed 05-Mar-14 15:43:40

Hello onceipop I really hope this one is a bit earlier for you.

KoalaFace Wed 05-Mar-14 16:15:36

Hey everyone! Just wanted to check in and see how you are all feeling! Congrats to everyone who has had their LO!

DD is 2 weeks old today and as I was remembering how fed up I was at the end I thought "I wonder how Pasta and the others are getting on?"

I'm keeping everything crossed for you Pasta that your super speedy birth is imminent!

onceipopicantstop Wed 05-Mar-14 16:42:21

Hi Pasta sounds like things might be starting up again - hope it keeps going for you this time.
Have just crawled around the playroom tidying up in the hope it might start something off, and planning an evening bouncing on the gym ball!! Possibly whilst consuming pineapple!

PassthePercyPigs Wed 05-Mar-14 16:42:51

Pasta it sounds like things are rely moving for you - I've not ad anything so encouraging. I've got a sweep tomorrow as I'll be 41 weeks - praying that does something! Oh, and got electrocuted during my acupuncture session this afternoon which was lovely and relaxing. Honestly, talk about desperate measures!

Springbells Wed 05-Mar-14 18:54:53

Hmph. Fed up here. Niggling all day, short sharp pains short gaps BUT don't seem to be getting anywhere. Just uncomfortable enough to be tiring and not let me sleep! Know how you feel pasta, last time was absolutely no question was in labour, this stop start is doing my head in! Wish I knew if this was it or not! Ok, moan over...

Positive vibes to all those bouncing..

Cacraig2 Wed 05-Mar-14 19:03:33

Goodness so many of you sound nearly there! Good luck to you all. envy 40weeks tomorrow and seeing that date circled and no sign of baby finding very depressing. I am not known for my patience at best of times. Don't know why they say second babies earlier dd was 40+3 so I should have been more prepared for the waiting game.
Parents were going to visit baby at weekend as don't live local but will have to delay their visit at this rate!

apprenticemamma Wed 05-Mar-14 23:17:58

Hi there can I waddle in and join you lot? edd friday ..7th march. Ds appeared the day before his edd so like everyone else in here I fully expect dd to have the same pattern.

Nothing to report other than minor sore lower back and under bump twinges and increasing desperation. Going to sleep in the hope of waking up in a pool of amniotic fluid, as u do!

Good luck everyone x

KatieChooChoo Thu 06-Mar-14 04:34:02

still here watching the thread pasta and sending labour vibes.
At your stage you've now gone beyond dis-pear, you're so uncomfortable and frustrated with everyone (including yourself).

BUT............ in just a few weeks you'll be wide awake at stupid o'clock from a night feed, with all the frustration of being over due well and truly behind you. Im selfishly enjoying these night feeds, i get undisturbed 1 on 1 time with ds2. The romance of night feeds will be probably change next week once dp returns to work and ive a giddy 2 year old ds1 to deal with confused

Labour vibes to everyone xx

PastaandCheese Thu 06-Mar-14 06:24:06

How are you doing springbells? Any movement over night?

cacraig I really hope your baby arrives soon and before 40+3 but I think you're wise to give some thought to going later. I didn't really contemplate it so it was a bit of a shock when it happened.

Hello apprentice how are you doing today?

I'm not doing so good here. 6 hours of very painful contractions and it's stopped again. I got to every 5 minutes and lasting well over 1 minute. Spoke to hospital, all set to come in and then all of a sudden went to every 8 minutes, then every 10 and then nothing.

I don't know what I am going to do aside from ask the local vet to put me down. The midwife on the phone was very kind and said it is very common and it will come back but the thing is I was in agony. If that isn't established labour I just don't know how I will cope.

I didn't even want to post because I feel like a fraud.

I'm just ill prepared for this and two nights of contracting has left me feeling like a wrung out dish rag.

DH is staying home today and we're sending DD to nursery. The hospital were adamant I'm getting somewhere albeit not as quickly as I'd like. sad

Springbells Thu 06-Mar-14 07:06:45

pasta you made me smile with your vet comment! All good last night, bloody show, then went to bed wholly expecting all to continue and.... Nothing. Except wide awake since 2am. Now knackered and vary between wanting to cry and being extremely grumpy about the whole thing! And I know I'm being irrational and there is only one conclusion! hope we all have easy births after all this prep!

Cacraig2 Thu 06-Mar-14 07:12:50

Sleepless night despite no labour symptoms grrrr yup 40weeks arrived today and as I should have expected absolutely no sign of dc2. Dd going to her grannies today so plan to lie on couch and watch favourite films all day.

Pasta I can not even imagine (yet) what you are going through sounds horrendous hope you get some rest/sleep today then deliver quickly later on today xx

Hi apprentice fingers crossed for you too hopefully we can all be like katiechoochoo by Friday x

KoalaFace Thu 06-Mar-14 07:36:43

Chin up Pasta I had painful contractions come and go for days and then an 8 minute active labour with 2 pushes. All those contractions will be getting you closer, its not for nothing! I know you'll be sick to your back teeth of symptom spotting but be very aware of what's going on with your body, after such a long, slow labour it might happen very fast. How far away is the delivery suite?

Katie I'm so scared about how I'll cope when DH goes back to work! Having him here is the only reason 3 year old DS isn't furious that I spend so much time breastfeeding!

PastaandCheese Thu 06-Mar-14 07:36:53

cacraig I think you will need chocolate to go with those films? It's the law when you're heavily pregnant.

springbells I have had a lot of blood stained mucus so I just try to cling to the fact it is happening and this will end at some point.

I'm planning to see midwife, complain a lot about this reluctant child and then go to sleep for the afternoon. Obviously I'll have another couple of hours of pointless contractions that will end that plan. confused

Fattyfirsttime Thu 06-Mar-14 08:46:02

Morning everyone! I am going to try and have a day of no symptom spotting and not eating any crap. Off for a walk soon, it wont be a long one though due to the necessity for a toilet break every five minutes. Hoping this may encourage baby to come....

apprenticemamma Thu 06-Mar-14 10:09:05

morning all <waves>, pasta pmsl with your vet comment !!! cacraig that wld be awesome. .

Still having back pains though have eased but coming and going. Nothing as exciting as a contraction though although never had bh before anywah.

Feeling v emosh also as someone else mentioned though that's been a long standing prego thing!

Half asleep watching tv with ds. Walk and pineapple later...

Izzyalex Thu 06-Mar-14 12:40:49

Thank you so much for all your best wishes, sorry I haven't checked in all week to see how you're getting on.

pasta stay strong, you'll get there and it will be so worth it.
Welcome to all the newbies too, sending everyone speedy labour vibes and positivity and strength.

Like katie I want to hang around a little to hear pasta has delivered!

See you on the other side........

Xx

frogslegs35 Thu 06-Mar-14 13:17:38

Pasta - it definitely sounds like you're close. I know it's not much consolation to you but all of these contractions will be doing something.
With ds3 I'd had similar and when I went in for my induction I was already just over 3 cms dilated.

Good luck ladies, hope all of your labours are iminent.

Cacraig2 Thu 06-Mar-14 17:06:25

Despite due date no symptoms of any movement here sad
I am hoping pasta and other ladies the lack of news means good news for you all envy

MatildasCat Thu 06-Mar-14 19:23:13

Well I've been for a long walk today and sat on my ball loads.

Does anyone else have a weird feeling like it's never going to happen? Each day that does past, the thought of going into labour seems further away.

apprenticemamma Thu 06-Mar-14 20:56:21

Having contractions every 15 mins in my back sometimes every six mins since this arvo. I don't want to get too excited they are neither strong nor regular. They cld even stop, right? I didn't have a latent phase last time, can anyone advise? Having fruit enema haha then doing some grooming /hozzie back tweaking and maybe see if can sleep. ...

PastaandCheese Thu 06-Mar-14 21:31:20

At last! Went into hospital for want of something to do and I was only 3cm so they said to go home. Waters broke as I was getting ready to do the walk of shame back past reception and a little boy arrived 55 minutes later!!

7lb 1oz. Gas and air. One stitch as he had hand on head.

Just like a switch had been flicked when water went and it just became incredibly intense instantly. Frightening as I was worried it wouldn't have got far and would have hours to go. Then had a massive contraction and shouted 'I'm pushing' and he came on the next push!!!!

Midwife was as shocked as me!

Wishing everyone a rapid and happy birth. Can't wait to hear happy news from you all.

KoalaFace Thu 06-Mar-14 21:37:43

Oh congratulations Pasta I'm so pleased for you!

I knew it was imminent from how you described your day yesterday, it was so similar to how it was for me.

Enjoy your gorgeous boy thanks

Sending big positive vibes and speedy labour prayers to everyone still waiting!

Cacraig2 Thu 06-Mar-14 22:37:22

That is fantastic pasta thank god you never got home or it may have ended as an unplanned home birth. Another example of why its crazy the way they send labouring women home. So pleased for you enjoy your wee boy and hope your dc1 is a fantastic little helper xx

PastaandCheese Fri 07-Mar-14 06:59:11

Thank you! How are you doing apprentice? It was just awful stopping and starting but it was definitely true in my case that the reward is a fast delivery at the end.

KatieChooChoo Fri 07-Mar-14 08:28:01

WHOOOP WHOOOP CONGRATULATIONS PASTA thanks thanks thanks

Sounds like you had a pleasant experience (as pleasant as child birth can be). Im so pleased for you. smile

Wishing you and your family health and happiness

Wishing everyone else rapid labour vibes.

See you on that next thread pasta ....... 'sleep deprived new mums of 2 or more darling children !!

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

MatildasCat Fri 07-Mar-14 12:46:58

Horaay pasta!

frogslegs35 Fri 07-Mar-14 13:54:24

Woohoo! Congratulations Pasta thanks
I also had a feeling you'd not be long after what you were describing.
Glad it's all over now and your little boy is here.

Good luck to the ladies still waiting, hoping you all don't have too much longer to wait.

PastaandCheese Fri 07-Mar-14 14:22:24

I shall find my way there katie!

It was a very good experience. The difference between how I feel today compared to after my first birth is incredible.

I am looking forward to seeing the rest of the babies on this thread arrive.

Cacraig2 Fri 07-Mar-14 17:59:12

Saw midwife today 40+1 and told 3/5ths engaged so heading right direction. Sent to hospital due to reduced baby movement but scan and trace normal and baby piped up and been active since-typical.

This afternoon went for reflexology figured worth a try as midwife tried to assure me nearly there just need some contractions to get things going!! Also managed to source some clary sage oil so will add to bath and rub on bump later so here's hoping. Might even order another curry (any excuse! wink )

KatieChooChoo Fri 07-Mar-14 18:01:33

MataildasCat would you name be taken from the book? If so, its one of my ds favourite bedtime stories.
I felt like you, that the pregnancy was never going to end. Im not sure how long you've been following the thread, but i went over 2 weeks and ended up being induced. I had planned a home birth - pfft !!
The advantage ive found with going over is having loads of energy afterwards. That energy comes in handy with a toddler and new born so please dont dispear too much (much easier said than done!).

Sending everyone labour rapid labour vibes.

xx

frogslegs35 Fri 07-Mar-14 18:43:44

Typical indeed Cacraig little bugger smile
Glad everything's ok.
Good luck with the oil, hope it helps.

PastaandCheese Fri 07-Mar-14 19:05:22

Good luck cacraig and definitely have the Indian. I was eating an Indian when I went into labour with my first....

Matildascat I felt exactly like it was never going to happen. Once I went past the point where DD had been born I just felt quite down about it all and just felt it was inevitable I would go two weeks over.

In reality I only had to wait another couple of days but each day felt like a lifetime. It is such a hard time.

MatildasCat Fri 07-Mar-14 20:58:32

Thanks Pasta and Katie . It's a comfort to let off some steam with people who understand.

I am hoping for a home birth too Katie and yes, you're right on the inspiration for my current user name grin

We've had curry tonight.......bring on the contractions!!!!

Yonineedaminute Sat 08-Mar-14 03:33:09

Congratulations pasta! Sounds like a wonderful birth as well!

My DD finally arrived on Thursday evening. Unfortunately it wasn't quick though - all going really well (arrived at hospital at 6cm, birth pool, just gas and air) then suddenly progress totally stopped, and it ended with all the drugs, epidural and ventouse in theatre. It is so similar to what happened with my first birth that we think that the shape of my pelvis must have something to do with positioning of baby's head as it turns.

But she is here and is lovely (sleeping on me right now at 3:30 she won't settle in her crib!) and that's all that matters.

Good luck to all of you, your babies will be here so soon!

Springbells Sat 08-Mar-14 09:07:44

Congratulations pasta and yoni, glad your little ones have arrived safely. I'm hoping for a quick birth like yours pasta, can't believe they were sending you home!

PastaandCheese Sat 08-Mar-14 10:04:03

yoni congratulations. thanksthanksthanks wonderful news. Hope you enjoyed the snuggles even if they weren't followed by a nice snooze in the basket (same here BTW!).

I had failed vontouse and forceps with my first so I can really sympathise with that experience. As you say it is done now. thanks

springbells in all fairness to them I knew it wasn't painful or frequent enough so I think I knew they'd say go home. Something changed instantly when waters went and she could tell just by putting a hand on my bump?

onceipopicantstop Sat 08-Mar-14 10:43:19

Congratulations to the new arrivals!
40+3 here and no sign of progress. Even bh have settled down sad. Feeling much more impatient than I did with dc1, but not alot I can do about it. He'll arrive when he's ready I guess!

Out if interest were those of you who were postdates closer to your own dates rather than the scan date? For dc1 my date was brought forward by 1 week after my dating scan, compared to my dates from lmp. And he was 9 days late. Same thing has happened with this pregnancy so wondering if I should just assume he's going to be at least a week late!

Cacraig2 Sat 08-Mar-14 13:49:37

Hi onceipop I can't remember what date I thought i was due with dd1 but was 40+3 but vaguely remember it being earlier than I expected. with this one my edd from scan was 6 th I worked out 9th from lmp and ovulation kit and currently 40+2 so maybe as usual mums are right wink

Still no sign of any labour symptoms feeling absolutely fed up sad

onceipopicantstop Sat 08-Mar-14 16:01:47

Hi cacraig 2 good chance tomorrow will be the day for you then!
I'm just fed up being uncomfortable and unable to do anything. Dh and ds have been in the garden playing on the trampoline, I'm barely able to walk because of spd and general awkwardness. Am waddling like a duck!

Cacraig2 Sat 08-Mar-14 22:13:37

Away to bed again with no sign of dc2 feeling weepy, huge and sore. Honestly this is like some kind of cruel torture with no end in sight ! Of course I know that is rediculous it has to come out sometime even if by forced eviction but every day feels like an emotional and physical struggle. Poor dc1 having a grumpy mummy that has the physical abilities of a 90 year old angry sad

onceipopicantstop Sun 09-Mar-14 11:03:47

No news here. Had regular and more uncomfortable tightenings and back ache from 5pm last night, every 20 mins or so, and was hopeful that things were starting off but had stopped before I went to bed.

Beautiful day here though so planning on a long walk - even if it is like torture because of spd, I'm getting desperate!!

MatildasCat Sun 09-Mar-14 12:45:14

The curry worked!!

Our baby boy was born yesterday evening at home, as we'd hoped. Quite a hard back to back labour. Very different from the "easy" labour I'd had with DC1 but all worth it.

Cacraig2 Sun 09-Mar-14 14:59:20

Congratulations matildascat flowers
The only thing curry did for me was worst heart burn ever.
Still no obvious sign this baby may make an appearance imminently just general odd cramps, mucus shows, and back/pelvis pain but had that for weeks confused.
Absolutely knackered as sleeping so badly had bath at 2am?! Away for a siesta.

PastaandCheese Sun 09-Mar-14 16:38:28

Well done matildascat that's great news. thanksthanksthanks

Fingers crossed for cacraig and onceipop. Really hope it is soon for you both.

frogslegs35 Sun 09-Mar-14 20:55:55

Congrats matildascat thanks well done !

Wishing the rest of the ladies immediate labours xx

Waitingandhoping Sun 09-Mar-14 21:11:20

Hello! New to thread. 40 + 3, D&V since 6 am this morning (not a sign of things starting, caught from DD aged 5). Eased off now thankfully, but still no sign of labour! Don't think anything's going to get this baby moving...

wine for those whose babies have arrived (just a small one!) and thanks to those still waiting...

Cacraig2 Sun 09-Mar-14 23:46:55

Hello waiting I am 40+3 too it's the pits as it is without d&v! Hope you feel better soon or it at least triggers labour!

apprenticemamma Mon 10-Mar-14 00:40:14

<rubs eyes>
<pasta> congrats and to update you, our beautiful baby girl ( still to be named, Aoife or Niamh) arrived on Friday her edd! After I posted at 8.45 contrractions slowly mildly continued every 15 mins then BAM at 4 am every 3-5 mins, straight to hospital by 5 am, only time for gas and air and only from 6am (delayed due to assessment) and at 7am she arrived!

As mentioned else where those earlier back pains and slow build up contractions pay offsmile smile smile .

Top tips for me were to combine resting/snoozing and bouncing on a ball to bring the contractions on.

Wishing everyone all the best smile

frogslegs35 Mon 10-Mar-14 01:44:24

Congrats apprentice, well done thanks

onceipopicantstop Mon 10-Mar-14 09:39:09

No news here, despite lots of bouncing on the ball. Felt very emotional last night - partly frustration and discomfort, and partly a sudden panic about how I'm going to cope with two dcs!! Was thinking dh and I won't have many more evenings to ourselves with dc1 in bed at 7!! A little too late to be having these thoughts as there's no going back now grin!

onceipopicantstop Mon 10-Mar-14 09:40:17

Oh and congratulations apprentice

PastaandCheese Mon 10-Mar-14 16:06:05

Congratulations apprentice. thanksthanksthanksthanks well done you!

onceipop I figure if I managed to convince one child to go to bed each night at 7 I will convince another in time!

Cacraig2 Mon 10-Mar-14 21:00:37

Bath and bump massage with clary save oil, 3rd cup raspberry leaf tea brueing. Bounced about on gym ball and been for 2 walks, cleaned house and had a siesta. (Dc1 been at nursery!). About to watch one born every minute as likely closest I will get to labour tonight wink

onceipopicantstop Tue 11-Mar-14 08:07:46

Any progress cacraig? Nothing happening here. Have appt with mw tomorrow as 41 weeks and will probably have a sweep. One way or another this baby will be out in the next week or so!

Cacraig2 Tue 11-Mar-14 08:43:34

Hi oncipop no absolutely nothing weepy again this morning waking up with no baby. I am 41 weeks on Thursday and have hospital post date appointment when I also hope they will do a sweep. I am sick of trying every old wives tale under the sun I can safely say that nothing works to bring on labour.

Waitingandhoping Tue 11-Mar-14 09:14:00

Hang in there cacraig, I'm in the same boat, fingers crossed for both of us that a sweep will do the trick!

I feel a bit stupid that I've spent so much time sorting out the baby's room, planning for labour, etc but didn't mentally prepare myself for the hardest bit - this post-due-date waiting. I really believed that this baby would be quicker and earlier. Wishful thinking!

Hope tomorrow goes well onceipop and has the desired result!

Congratulations apprentice - brilliant news thanks

onceipopicantstop Tue 11-Mar-14 10:22:12

Glad it's not just me feeling all emotional about it! It just feels like it is never going to happen! In a week I will be complaining about sleepless nights I expect!

Izzyalex Tue 11-Mar-14 16:13:08

Not checked in for a while so massive congratulations to pasta and everyone who has now had their beautiful babies xxxx

thanks

Enjoy! The fun starts here........

Cacraig2 Wed 12-Mar-14 04:56:01

I am up with another night of insomnia -why? No bh no cramps nothing uterus now officially on strike. Not a sign of labour.
Feeling very weepy having a good cry and a hot chocolate in hope can go back to sleep. Couldn't even look at empty nursery on way down stairs.
Can not face another day pregnant never mind another week. Can't even think how will feel if sweep has no effect on Thursday. Anything for you oncipop?

Springbells Wed 12-Mar-14 05:50:45

cacraig I'm with you on the insomnia, awake since 4. Hardest thing is thinking what if it all kicks off, I'm going to be knackered! Oh, and still being huge, of course! So uncomfortable and grumpy, and like everyone here 'running' around after a toddler is getting harder and harder! Second sweep today. Here's hoping... Hope the hot chocolate helped.

onceipopicantstop Wed 12-Mar-14 10:01:22

Lets hope insomnia is a sign of impending labour as I had exactly the same problem last night. When I did drift off I dreamt I was was having contractions - was very disappointed when I woke up! Mw coming today so hopefully a sweep will get things started. Anyone know how long they'll leave us go before induction? I'm 39 and think I read somewhere that stillbirths are increased with post dates and higher maternal age.

Cacraig2 Wed 12-Mar-14 13:57:28

I know what you mean springbells running after toddler hard work and feel guilty for being short tempered and 'no fun'.

I don't think they let you go over 42 weeks onceipop so you should have your date for admission and induction any day. Hope your second sweep works. Try not to think about worst case scenarios as sure percentage very low and you are still young.

Another gorgeous day went for walk along beach with dp and dd1 to cheer me up. Did the trick but so tired ready to sleep.

onceipopicantstop Thu 13-Mar-14 09:52:21

Well some progress overnight but not sure if it will continue! Had a sweep at lunchtime and had cramps shortly afterwards. Since 3pmish started having regular tightenings with pain in my lower abdomen and back, and sometimes down below (sorry if tmi!) - I presume these are mild contractions rather than bh, and perhaps pain from cervix altering? Have continued overnight every 20 minutes or so - slept terribly! They are uncomfortable but not dreadful by any means and last 20-30 seconds. Only problem is they haven't increased in frequency or intensity despite having them for 18 hours now. Is this just very early labour?
Dh decided to stay off work as he works 1.5 hours away but I suspect he may have wasted a day off!!

Waitingandhoping Thu 13-Mar-14 12:05:42

Sounds hopeful onceipop fingers crossed for you!

Had sweep this morning, induction booked for Sat if that doesn't work. Glad something's going to happen at last!

Cacraig2 Thu 13-Mar-14 13:48:43

Hi ladies
Sounds promising onceipop might all just kick off and go really quickly. I had my sweep this morning and dtd as instructed.