Can anyone give tips on coping with the Crowning stage?

(54 Posts)
WaynettaSlobsLover Mon 25-Mar-13 10:12:22

I bloody hate it.

PseudoBadger Mon 25-Mar-13 10:17:07

Are you there now?!

Dillydollydaydream Mon 25-Mar-13 10:18:51

A good puff of G&A and long blows. It is awful but that's the beginning of the end, it stings like I don't know what but it doesn't last long then you get a squishy newborn smile

I'm doing it for the 4th time in 9 weeks, crazy person!

MustTidyUpMustTidyUp Mon 25-Mar-13 10:23:45

I think my tactic was to shout 'this fucking huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuurts'.
<helpful>

WaynettaSlobsLover Mon 25-Mar-13 10:29:38

Oh I'm not there now, got a few months left yet!

So gas and air you say? I didn't have any pain relief last time and literally gritted my teeth and waited to split in half. I just want to know wtf to do when it starts to sting. The head was bad but the pop pop feel of the shoulders was worse. Small baby and I didn't tear but it still flipping hurts.

lysteddy Mon 25-Mar-13 10:31:26

Gas and air and i think dont push until you have a contraction.

Good luck!

mrsbungle Mon 25-Mar-13 10:34:26

Definitely gas and air. I had nothing first time either. I had the ridiculous idea that I wouldn't like gas and air and that it would make me sick. I decided to try it with DC2, though and it was bloody great!

Ummmm you need to deal with it psychologically by repeating in your head "It's almost over, it's almost over, it's almost over" - that's what I did!! Still effin hurt though.

LeBFG Mon 25-Mar-13 11:11:31

Puff in and out nice and hard. Just focus on that. Envisage your baby coming out. I didn't feel that much pain at this stage but was very aware of what was going on iyswim.

AmandaCooper Mon 25-Mar-13 11:19:55

I'm hoping the second time round I'll at least know that yes you really do have to push that hard and with such disregard for your physical well being - maybe it will be quicker and less of a head fuck...

TomDudgeon Mon 25-Mar-13 11:54:55

Ha musttidy
Think I said sheeeeeeeet (shit)
At the point of crowning
It is very much, its nearly all over by that point though.

Welovegrapes Mon 25-Mar-13 11:56:43

I think it's different every time and it should be better with dc2. I had a huge DS and bad 2nd degree tear and tbh apart from momentary ring of fire it honestly wasn't as bad as the stage 1 contractions.

RightUpMyRue Mon 25-Mar-13 12:00:24

I'm hoping giving birth in the water will lessen the sting.

38+5 at the mo. I'll let you know if it works.

Zatopek Mon 25-Mar-13 12:04:43

It's foul isn't it? I had a really lovely calm 2nd birth but it was the point I just wanted someone to cut me open and "get it out". Didn't help that DD had shoulder dystocia and just hung there whilst the alarms went off. MW described it afterwards as a "tight fit". Yes putting it mildly.

How do you cope?I think you just go aahhhhhhhhhh and hope that it will be over soon.

I always think women on OBEM don't seem to be so bothered by crowning. Well they seem to be in pain at the point of crowning but once the head is out they seem to relax. For me I thought the pain was worse after the head was out.

Zatopek Mon 25-Mar-13 12:05:55

I gave birth in water! Didn't tear though despite this 9lb baby and shoulder forcing her way out.

StormyBrid Mon 25-Mar-13 12:12:56

You cope with it because you have to, because it's a bit late to change your mind by then. Also, gas and air, and swearing - I opted for "fuck a duck!"

spanky2 Mon 25-Mar-13 12:17:16

When you are crowning the finish line is in sight . You will be so relieved that it is almost over you won'tcare too much . Take deep breaths of gas and air the baby is nearly there!

5eggstremelychocaletymadeggs Mon 25-Mar-13 12:21:03

Birth in water. Use gas and air and remember at that bit its nearly all over.

I said 'owww oewww owww oww fuck' at crowning!

TheTiger Mon 25-Mar-13 12:24:00

Give birth in water, I didn't feel the 'ring of fire' just stinging. It eased the pain of the contractions too.

Good luck!!

Branleuse Mon 25-Mar-13 12:24:03

swearing a lot.

maybe screaming

MustTidyUpMustTidyUp Mon 25-Mar-13 13:35:09

I sense a theme...

WaynettaSlobsLover Mon 25-Mar-13 15:43:41

Pmsl at 'fuck a duck' grin

Zatopek shoulder dystocia is my worst nightmare. How long did it take to get dc out? Yes I also thought it was worse AFTER the head was out.

Brilliant advice on here. Thanks all of you. It's true that the finish line is in sight at the ring of fire. My mw squirted cold cream all over my bits when I crowned. It helped a bit I think.

LoganMummy Mon 25-Mar-13 15:48:06

I'm no use for advice, I just screamed at this point. Didn't realise how stingy that bit was!

Notmyidea Mon 25-Mar-13 16:53:11

wait for your uterus to take over? I'm currently frantically trying to turn a breech at 37 weeks. If I get as far as crowning I'm going to give the hypnobirthing numbing glove type technique a go and hope it doesn't feel too much like wanking in front of the midwife.
I'll let you know...

chickenfactory Mon 25-Mar-13 17:01:33

I really wish they showed a bit more of this bit on OBEM, I think I'm in for a surprise confused

Msbluesky32 Mon 25-Mar-13 18:02:39

Reading with interest, I thought they did show quite a bit of it in OBEM, no? I seem to always flick over when the heads are coming out! You could try searching for birth videos but water births seem to be the way to go - I imagine its because the water 'loosens' everything up a bit, which in turn helps with the stretch...?

Fairylea Mon 25-Mar-13 18:08:18

Choose to have an elective c section like I did with dc 2.

smile

No crowning then!

(I'm being a bit daft but seriously I loved my c section after a very long and difficult first labour with dc 1).

Wishfulmakeupping Mon 25-Mar-13 18:13:12

Yes to gas and air it makes a huge difference. If you have time left start doing perineal massage too

glorious Mon 25-Mar-13 18:18:57

I somehow didn't feel the crowning at all despite having been without gas and air and out of the pool for an hour by then. DD had her hand by her head and I got a second degree tear. I think I was just so focused on getting through it I didn't notice if that makes sense. I certainly wasn't being brave, just lucky. So it might be ok smile

Zatopek Mon 25-Mar-13 20:55:39

"Zatopek shoulder dystocia is my worst nightmare. How long did it take to get dc out?"

Well the alarms went off and 5 people rushed into the room. I was told to get out of the pool "now". This is quite hard to do when you have a head between your legs.

Luckily the stepping over the side of the pool unlodged DD and as I was lifted onto the bed she whooshed out. No need for any manoevres! Thank goodness

Did this for first time last week, with DS (DD was ventouse delivery.) Concur with general screaming, swearing and gas and air approach. wink

NightLark Wed 27-Mar-13 12:03:23

Ooh, zatopek that's exactly what happened to me too. Only I was at home. Midwife probably still has nightmares about it!

AMR73 Thu 28-Mar-13 19:33:09

Try to relax and keep your jaw and mouth loose (if your mouth and other muscles are tense, you automatically tighten up down below which is not what you want to happen when crowning!). For me, I thought of it like a long run- you get uncomfortable toward the end and then it's all over and you feel great about your achievement!

Zatopek Thu 28-Mar-13 20:18:27

nightlark"Ooh, zatopek that's exactly what happened to me too. Only I was at home. Midwife probably still has nightmares about it! "

Yes it's meant to be a MW's worst nightmare.

I could so well have been at home too but because my first HB had failed to progress and I had to transfer I decided I ought to go to Midwife Led Unit (attached to hospital) next time.

I'm glad everything worked out ok for you too!

Nyancat Fri 29-Mar-13 21:23:39

Mw poured cold water on my bits for crowning and I have never felt relief like it in my life. I think it was water, actually I don't care what it was it was amazing!

Florin Fri 29-Mar-13 21:34:52

I screamed and swore and thought lets get this over with. I should have thought I can't wait for cuddles with my newborn but my main aim was to just get it done. I gave birth with no pain relief as hated gas and air and no time for anything else. However will try for the same next time!

raininginbaltimore Fri 29-Mar-13 21:40:00

I just kept shouting 'it really fucking hurts' over and over.

janey68 Fri 29-Mar-13 22:26:04

Yeap, screaming is the way to go- dh told me after dc1 that I'd reached decibels which by rights should have shattered the windows.
Tbh it's a good job crowning doesn't last long because that was the worst part by a mile for me. Stage 1 hurt, but actually pushing the baby out- big ouch. Am envious of those who had cold water poured on their bits at the crucial moment, I wonder why that isn't standard as it must help

PastaBeeandCheese Sat 30-Mar-13 19:13:53

Hmmm, 'what's that, what's that, what's that' said in a shrill and panicked voice was my response.

Rather embarrassingly the midwife replied 'your baby's head' and looked a bit concerned that it appeared to be news to me that I was about to have a baby.

ReallyTired Tue 02-Apr-13 21:28:09

It is possible to breathe out the baby and avoid extreme pain and tearing with crowning. A lot of women are directed to push by their midwife and the vulva does not get a chance to stretch.

I suggest natal hypnotheraphy/ hypnobirthing to help with the crowning stage. Just allow the body to decide when to push rather than actively pushing. Given a chance the uterus will act like a piston and push the baby out when ready. It also helps to pick your position carefully to avoid tearing.

Supported knealing (my favourite) is good as it allows the pelvis plenty of room to expand outwards. Depending on how upright/ horizontal you are will control the descent of the baby. (Ie. knealing upwards will make the baby come faster, sticking your bottom in the air will slow the baby coming out.)

Some women like lying on their side or over a birthing ball. Its best to avoid being completely on your back as the coxylx bone will get in the way of the baby coming out.

I found the worse part was transition. It was scary because there are so many strange sensations that you aren't used to.

Iggly Tue 02-Apr-13 21:44:38

Oh god I shouldn't have read this thread. It has brought it back. Dd - my second - had a fucking MASSIVE head (they brought me back in for extra scans when pregnant with her as worried although all fine). God the ring, the ring <moans>

I screamed.

HelloBear Tue 02-Apr-13 22:05:12

really - I'm sorry but I do find it annoying when people say there is no need for crowning to be painful. That is women's experience and to suggest that of they had done hypnoborthong or been in a different position it would have been better is patronising to me. Also how do you prove this theory? You can't because you can not have the SAME birth in a different way.

Sorry to rant but I found the crowning alwful (very active home births) and there was NO way I was going to just breath my babies out they had to be pushed out by me otherwise i think I would still be in labour now.

Sorry to hijack thread...to answer you question OP...
Scream, puff on g&a, swear, scream puff on g&a, scream, swear, puff on G&a, for a bit of variety swear at your DP/Mw, puff on G&a, etc, etc....

I told my MWs that they really did not understand how painful it was and I was NOT pushing. I got a 'yes dear' reply. They knew that at some point I would realise that to get it over with I would have to push.

Iggly Tue 02-Apr-13 22:08:09

I will add - I did the breathing and going slowly but it still fricking hurt (I had no pain relief for first and second I used g&a to help control my breathing. I get hypno birthing but it still hurt).

CitizenOscar Tue 02-Apr-13 22:39:58

I honestly don't remember that bit - as I'm now 26 weeks pg with DC2 maybe I'm having convenient amnesia? wink

Gas & air & kneeling on a mat on the floor, leaning on a birthing ball was what I was doing at the time, if that helps you at all?

ShesAStar Fri 05-Apr-13 15:54:37

Wait for a contraction and little push, little push, little push, little push until head is out. I did this with both my births and found it great because it gave me something to think about (controlling the push) and I didn't tear at all - although that may have been luck. Good luck x x

Ezza1 Fri 05-Apr-13 16:43:29

Ha ha Citizen - I am 16 weeks with DC4 and wondering if I also have convenient amnesia as I cannot recall crowning at all shock

The only thing I do recall with DC3 was thinking "thank fuck for that" once his head was out (5 mins 2nd stage) and the midwife bellowing "you are not done, we have to get this shoulder out NOW!" Panicked me into action and he slid out very quickly! grin

flaminhoopsaloolah Fri 05-Apr-13 17:00:32

I'm wishing I hadn't read this thread....had the world's most perfect epidural the last time around and this time I'm going for a home birth....I'm clearly not at all prepared for what crowning might feel like....

I'm with ReallyTired. You can imrpove the sensation by being in control. It is better for this if you have no drugs in your system, but with your caregivers backing off, and your confidence in your own body you can instinctively move and breath in a way that reduces the discomfort.

But that really does mean hands off and no direction, as well as your being with-it enough to do whatever you need to do.

2kidsintow Fri 05-Apr-13 22:13:56

First time, they sloshed on some local anaesthetic as they were going to do an episiotomy.

Second time, I still didn't feel any crowning, or the tear. No local, just gas and air that time.

snowchick1977 Fri 05-Apr-13 22:18:41

Don't push, just relax and your body will take over.

Once its on its way you can't stop it coming but by relaxing it will come quicker and easier and the whole experience will be better for you and baby.

The whole midwife yelling push push thing really hacks me off! Its really unnecessary and causes tension, fear and then pain.

AMR73 Mon 08-Apr-13 11:09:41

Try to relax and let your body do the pushing for you (I think it is called the "expulsion reflex") to give downstairs time to expand. Have also heard that regular perineal massage in the weeks before before giving birth sometimes helps.

same as shesastar some panty type breaths then little push, little push, little push, little push......

it stung like an absolute fucker but it gave me focus, head pooped out and was so pleased with myself to then have to go through a lovely shoulder dystocia moment hmm

strangely enough everyone was panicking but me at that point, I was the calmest I had been through the whole labour confused

pooped?!?!?! I of course meant popped shock, although I may have pooped also, Im not sure grin

mumsylady Tue 09-Apr-13 16:45:06

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