catheter after birth? please read :(

(44 Posts)
allchik Mon 14-Jan-13 16:37:12

Hi,gave birth to a beautiful girl on the 10th,epidural n forceps.
12th i got discharged with catheter in cus although I cud wee I had 650ml left in bladder which I couldnt feel.
Went bk this morn for it to be taken out n bladder to be checked,again could do a wee but scan showed 290ml left in bladder.
Worth saying by this point i was heartbroken,couldnt stop crying.
Theyre now talking bout self catheterisation,getting refered to a specialist etc.
Asked if I could go home without one in n go bk at 7 to see if anythings cleared...thought the pressure of hospital might have been effecting my wee.
But in last hr or so ive had a cup of tea n half pint of squash n nothing sad
Think its gonna be bad news tonight,i just cnt stop crying n feel like this is wrecking everything,just wnt to forget bout hospital but so hard with a bag of pist strapped

allchik Mon 14-Jan-13 16:39:02

Oops... To your leg.
It makes me feel sick n i just dnt know when it will all end.
Has this happened to anyone else? Please give me good news! X

CabbageLooking Mon 14-Jan-13 16:40:09

Oh you poor thing. I haven't any advice but I hope your news is ok. And most importantly, congratulations on your baby girl. I had a very similar delivery to yours and I know how utterly ruined you feel afterwards. You will feel better though, I promise.

VivaLeBeaver Mon 14-Jan-13 16:40:26

Bless you. Its only been 4 days, which I know feels like a lifetime when you have a bag of piss strapped to your legg.

Your bladder is probably bruised to bits. It should get better soon, hopefully on its own.

I don't have any advice, but I'm sure someone will be along soon.

It won't wreck everything - this will pass. It may be bad news this evening, but we are here to support you.

I second it just being due to bruising, get someone to run out and buy you some arnica pills, which are homeopathy and mn is very anti homeopathy but anything that might possibly in any way shape form help, is worth trying.
xx

Loupee Mon 14-Jan-13 16:47:49

Congratulations on the birth of your daughter.
My birth sounds similar, epidural, forceps and a catheter. I was kept in hospital for 4 days with the catheter which I hated, so can't imagine how much harder it is for you.
I don't have any specific advice I'm afraid. Do they know what has caused it? For me it was because anaesthesia didn't wear off properly, it seemed to linger making it difficult for me to realise I was peeing!
It doesn't help that the whole area will be fragile.
The numbers have being going in the right direction, so hopefully they will keep going that way.
Whatever happens it is probably just a short term blip. I'll keep my fingers crossed for you tonight.

sarahanneg Mon 14-Jan-13 16:51:06

I also had epidural for forcepts 8 weeks ago and to be honest until recently I cud never feel when my bladder was full, just used to go to the loo regurlarly. That's what the anaethatist told me to do. In my experience it takes weeks to fully recover from epidural also in the bowel department. If u r constipated that cud be the reason for not being able to wee. But it does get better with time.

Also try keeping a hot water bottle on your bladder region ( I know this might be hard if you are breast feeding) but it will encourage blood flow to the area which will help the bruising to heal quicker.

IslaValargeone Mon 14-Jan-13 16:57:06

I was also told to go to the loo regularly in an attempt to retrain it so to speak.
Easier said than done at the moment,as it is hugely stressful for you and you are desperate to pee but try and relax when you are on the loo at first. I used to press on my bladder a bit too.

Emsyboo Mon 14-Jan-13 17:01:14

Congrats on your baby girl
I have no help except echoing what people have said above, I have heard people rave about arnica tablets post c section they have to be worth a go? A friend had a similar situation she stayed in 7 days with catheter bless her but was fine week 2.
I hope you recover soon sorry couldn't help more x

BouncyPenguin Mon 14-Jan-13 17:19:30

I had epidural, forceps birth with catheter after for DS2. Can sympathise with all the bruising. I wasn't right for quite a few weeks. For a week or to afterwards I could only wee whilst tipping myself to the side and covering that area with tissue so that I was almost weeing on my hand. I don't know why that was. I took arnica tablets and bathed in lavender and tea tree oil bath. Don't know whether this helped really as I then got an infection in wound. You will get better but it will be slow. If they have given you iron tablets I would recommend reducing the amount you are taking as they will only make moving your bowels worse and that's the last thing you need. My GP said You can take a lower dose for longer instead. I know how you will be feeling that this has ruined everything for you. Try to remember that your experience is not abnormal. Nobody has a "normal" birth. We all have our stories to tell. This is your birth story. Try to go easy on yourself. Accept and ask for help from friends and family.

PastaDee Mon 14-Jan-13 17:50:02

I haven't had this experience but I know what a forceps delivery is like and how it leaves you feeling. For the record the tears would be there regardless so don't beat yourself up over that. I left a wet patch on a midwife's uniform when I was finding breastfeeding hard.... Not my usual style at all!

After my DD was born with low cavity forceps I had bruising extending all down my inner thighs. They were black and blue..... It makes sense that bruising in the opposite direction would affect your bladder. I agree with those who say its bruising and swelling and it will go down.

I took Arnica too and I am pretty sure it helped.

Get some rest if you can. Rest is so healing even if you can't get any decent sleep with your DD. Snuggle down with her and try to think about nice things for a few hours.

allchik Mon 14-Jan-13 18:07:46

Overwhelmed by all your replies...thanku..
Have spent the last hr sat in the bath relaxing n have managed to do 3 wee's (sorry if thats gross) so fingers crossed!
Will update later x

PastaDee Mon 14-Jan-13 18:58:23

Not at all gross. Sounds like a good plan and as though you are making good progress. If there was something other than bruising surely you wouldn't be able to go at all?

Have an un-mumsnet hug from me and keep relaxing and trying not to worry.

littlebrownmouse Mon 14-Jan-13 19:12:26

Hi, I had a 'natural' birth a good few years ago now and my baby was very big. I had a catheter for over two weeks after the birth as my bladder was apparently 'in shock' I didn't wee at all the whole time I was in hospital (4 days), I had scans and an 'in out' catheter and they could find nothing wrong apart from the fact that I had no sensation of needing to wee and couldn't do one when I tried. Initially I had a catheter for 24 then 48 then 72 hours. I was then sent home with a 'leg bag'-nice! And told to come back in a week. After the week I still wasn't working so was sent home again and had to go back a week later to the regular ward. I spent a day on the regular ward with the catheter out, had regular amounts to drink and by the end of the day, I could go again. Nobody knows why I couldn't go or indeed why I then could go, all the specialists simply said that my bladder was I shock, needed a rest and that time was a great healer. My absolute worst day was four days after the birth when I was feeling really hormonal, they were going to keep me in another night and then said I could go home with a bag of wee on a drip stand. Luckily DH is medical and insisted I went home with a leg bag or that he would do the in out catheter. It was grim but it all turned out right in the end, it was a normal but traumatic birth with huge stitching etc and my system just needed a rest. Chin up, try to go home if you possibly can and hopefully, your situation will end up positive like mine did.

VivaLeBeaver Mon 14-Jan-13 19:20:40

Btw, are you taking lots of codeine? Urinary retention can be a side effect.

PaleHousewifeOfCumbriaCounty Mon 14-Jan-13 19:36:28

Its really normal, pet! Ive had three natural easy deliveries but each time i had no sensation for weeing for at least a few weeks. Just keep going and having a try. I always thought it was because the weight and pressure of the baby being gone had taken the urgency away. It comes back, i promise.

stickybean Mon 14-Jan-13 23:00:51

My sister had a catheter with a leg bag for about 10 days after her forceps delivery. She was fine after that but like you (understandably) was extremely worried about the future. She was supported over the phone and in person by the incontinance nurse. Perhaps you could ask your midwife / gp for a referral?

Hang in there lovely, in the meantime do NOTHING but rest and feed your baby. Nothing else! smile

RoLoh Mon 14-Jan-13 23:13:37

I feel for you. I also had epidural, episiotomy and forceps. I was in hospital for a week and had a catheter for 2 days. But when they removed it I weed myself everytime I stood up but I couldn't feel it. This lasted for about 5 days so I assume that I still had pee remaining in my bladder too.

As it wore off gradually I assume that my insides were still numb from the epidural and also I was majorly bruised.

So don't worry, I'm sure things will get back to normal for you very soon

inadreamworld Mon 14-Jan-13 23:17:08

How awful for you - I agree with the others that your bladder is bruised and you will be rid of the catheter soon. I didn't have a catheter but after I had DD (21 months) I found it v difficult to squeeze the wee out (2nd degree tear, natural delivery) - all the other Mums were complaining that they couldn't stop the flow but I was the opposite. I didn't need a catheter but went to GP who said everything was bruised down there and to come back if it got worse. Luckily it got better and you will too but loads of sympathy as must be horrible.

nicelyneurotic Tue 15-Jan-13 09:30:45

Hi there,

Just say not to panic and you will be ok! I ended up wearing a catheter for 2 and a half weeks afterwards (at home) to give my bladder a rest. The bladder can get bruised during the birth.

It was awful because I thought it would be damaged forever and hadn't heard of it happening to anyone else, but I was fine when they removed it. It was a pain looking after a newborn with the catheter but they gave me a mini one so I could shower etc which made it slightly more bearable. Hope you dont have it as long as me, just wanted to let you know it happens to other people who make a full recovery.
Good luck and hope everything heals soon x

lakeofshiningwaters Tue 15-Jan-13 13:47:56

Hi also here to say don't panic. You only gave birth 4 days ago. No wonder your bladder is still bruised and in shock.

I had a similar delivery to you with ds, went home from hospital with a catheter for 2 weeks. After that, I saw the specialist nurse and had to keep a chart of how much liquid was going in and how much coming out (weeing in a measuring jug!) for a week.

After this my bladder was much better, but if it hadn't been, the next step would have been self-catheterisation. My cousin has to do this every night since a car accident 9 years ago, and she says it's very easy and not painful at all ( a piece of piss if you will...).

I remember how upsetting it can be when all you want to do is be with your lovely new baby, but take heart that it is very early days yet, and that help will be there if you do need it. let us know how you get on.

squidkid Tue 15-Jan-13 15:34:47

You poor poor thing. As if birth isn't hard enough.

This happened to my sister recently, after a VBAC with a long labour. She had the catheter in (at home) for 2 weeks after delivery. She was also heartbroken after 1 week that a trial without catheter was unsuccessful. But everything was fine after 2. I do hope for the same outcome for you, and hopefully sooner.

LovelyWeatherForDucks Tue 15-Jan-13 17:34:10

I feel your pain - I had a bladder injury (c section - cut it open) when I had my baby and had a catheter for three weeks until it healed. Really horrible - when you just want to enjoy your baby. I spent the whole time worrying about it and counting down the days until it was out (and regretting wishing my baby's first few weeks away). When I had it removed, and they scanned me and I was retaining around 200mls (ie not emptying fully) but they said that was a 'normal/acceptable' amount following trauma and it would sort itself out - which it did. It took another few weeks for the 'urge' to return too. But was assured that bladders heal very easily, and I've got no ill affects now, 3 months on. Good luck - it will get better!

katiecubs Tue 15-Jan-13 18:00:27

I'm so sorry for you sad hope you are managing to get a bit more out now.

I also had a similar problem but they refused to let me out of hospital until i had an empty bladder - i spend the first three days of DS's life sobbing it was horrible. I got there in the end though - you will too!

Loupee Tue 15-Jan-13 22:35:18

How did you get on allchik?
I remember in the days after the birth thinking it was the worst thing ever, I hated it.
But if anyone asks me now, I would do it over again in a heartbeat for my DS. You will get there.

Loupee Tue 15-Jan-13 22:35:43

Sorry should have said, he is now 6 months.

gussiegrips Tue 15-Jan-13 23:20:16

allchick Hope you got some advice and reassurance today.

I'm a women's health physio - this isn't uncommon after childbirth, particularly if you've had a bloody awful time of it instrumental delivery.

The reason you need a catheter is to make sure the bladder is emptying. If you can't feel your bladder, it's possible for it to fill and fill and fill...and well, it won't exactly go "pop", but you can land up with some very difficult consequences.

If it helps, think of the catheter as a safety valve. Lots of baths (to pee in), lots of water, lots of taking your tablets, try iceing your fanjo (most effective way is to put some frozen peas into a condom and stuff them into your crack. 20 mins or so at a time, you can do that hourly if it's hlepful. Don't serve them up for tea afterwards) and lots of Not Worrying Too Much. Yep, easier said than done.

Pelvic floor exercises will really help. You probably won't FEEL much to start off with, but it'll encourage the messages to get to your nethers - and the muscles and your bladder share some nerves. Imagine you are bursting for a pee or trying not to fart. Hold for count of 10, and then do 10 quick flicks. Do that as much as you like.

Your nethers are bruised and battered and a bit startled. You might find it takes a wee while to settle down.

Hang in there, sorry you are in this situation, takes the shine off your lovely baby a bit.

Feel free to PM me to mull things over or have a general rant.

Hang in there
x

SurvivalOfTheUnfittest Tue 15-Jan-13 23:38:56

And if I could add to the poster above, my bladder got to 3.5 litres full before they catheterised me, as I couldn't wee at all and was just told to drink lots. I thought the pain was having just given birth! I had to learn to self-catheterise and did it for a month after having each dc about 6x a day. It wasn't always pleasant, but if you have to do it, you just get on with it. We now believe I had an undiagnosed bladder condition beforehand, so I still have occasional retention issues, but as you can see from all the other posts, I'm very much in the minority. I found acupuncture got me weeing again after each birth. How are you doing now?

showtunesgirl Tue 15-Jan-13 23:44:39

OP, I absolutely feel for you. This happened to me too and I had to have the catheter in for two weeks. As far as I can recall, it's better to leave it in a bit longer to give everything a chance to calm down.

If you would like to PM me, please feel free. Hands down, I think that this was the worst thing about DD's birth despite everything else as I felt like I'd failed as I couldn't do something as fundamental as being able to pee.

gussiegrips Tue 15-Jan-13 23:46:57

after having each dc

EACH, Survival?

EACH?

Blardy hell.

Please tell me you're not the mother of 12!

SurvivalOfTheUnfittest Wed 16-Jan-13 07:15:11

No! Only two! I was so busy being a new mum that I wasn't too bothered, particularly the second time round when we were more inclined to think it would be temporary, having managed to sort it out the first time. The thing that made me sad was having to go in and out of hospital and missing half of dh's paternity leave each time. He was very practical about it and said that's what it was for, to get us sorted and fit again. The leg bag was worse than self-catheterising due to the loss post-partum and the mess the combination could create. I also reckon that if I could cope with a refluxy newborn, a potty-training under two and catheterising, I could pretty much take on the world! Hopefully OP, you will be fine soon and will look back it as another part of the trial of childbirth that we go through to bring our dc into the world-and as you can see, it didn't stop me doing it again! Good luck!

gussiegrips Wed 16-Jan-13 08:03:27

Showtunes yep - having stuff wrong with your bladder or bowel control has a powerful effect on your psyche.

Glad you are now tube free and able to pee. Oh, that would make a great badge for catheter graduates...

tinierclanger Wed 16-Jan-13 08:13:58

This happened to me too but they kept me in until they were happy I was emptying properly - was discharged 5 days after birth. Don't worry it will resolve, good advice on here. Also make sure you "double void" when you go which is good practice anyway to avoid retention and infections. So do your main wee, then sit and wait for another' minute or two - usually some more will come.

Big hugs to you as I remember how upset I was about it at the time when they said I might have to self-catheterise.

allchik Wed 16-Jan-13 19:53:30

Ladies I really cnt thanku all enough,I am so touched by your kind words and advice.
I am happy to report i am now catheter free,scan results werent perfect but MWs were happy that things were sorting themselves out (did a few big wee's at hospital)
I just never ever thought this would/could happen...no mention of it in my books,nct class or MW visits.
By the looks of this thread its common but maybe not talked about-
thanks again x x x x x x

showtunesgirl Wed 16-Jan-13 20:09:04

Yay! Being catheter free is an amazing feeling. It's like getting your body back. The urogynae team told me to go whenever I felt the urge to avoid straining the bladder anymore than it needed to be.

I too was perplexed when the urogynae people said it was common, the consultant said it was common, the nurses said it was common and there was nothing in ANY of the books I read. confused

It made me feel really alone.

I had a foceps delivery. I had a catheter for 10 weeks.

It was awful, I won't lie I used to cry all the time. I thought I was going to have it for life. I was 24. sad

If you want to know ANYTHING PM me xxx

squidkid Wed 16-Jan-13 20:13:16

So pleased to hear the catheter is out. xxxx

showtunesgirl Wed 16-Jan-13 20:14:52

Aw sleepingbunnies that is rough.

I remember when I went for my third TWOC having failed two of them spectacularly during my six days in hospital and there was a lady who was in the waiting room who was chatting with one the reception staff. The lady smiled ruefully and went maybe this month eh? shock

showtune very dark time... Was so pleased I only had one for a day after Dd2. smile

SurvivalOfTheUnfittest Wed 16-Jan-13 21:25:51

That's great news. I've only heard of one person in RL who has had anything remotely similar. The urogynae lot at our hospital were fantastic which made it all much more manageable. They seemed to think it was quite unusual, but it was quite a small hospital. I would like to say again that the self-catheterisation was better than the leg bag, just in case anyone else finds this thread from a search and gets that far into the process.

SurvivalOfTheUnfittest Wed 16-Jan-13 21:30:39

I've just realised I was watching your latent labour thread and had wondered why you hadn't been back. So glad that you got there in the end, although it sounds like you've had a right old time of it. Be kind to yourself and just take your time to enjoy your baby girl now as much as you can. Congratulations!

pashapasta Wed 16-Jan-13 21:38:14

Hi and congratulations! This happened to me too. I remember being soshocked and upset. I had the catheter out after a week but i still had retained urine. But after another week (it seemed much much longer), the catheter was taken out and i was fine. Easy to say but try not to be too worried and upset and just enjoy your baby.Good luck

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