WWYD? I'm in early labour but booked in for ELCS in about 3 hours!

(61 Posts)
SunnyUpNorth Thu 27-Dec-12 06:23:19

I am 41 weeks pregnant with dc2. Briefly, last time I was induced at 41+6, had several sweeps over the week prior to that, then had gel pessaries, waters broken, syntocinon drip over a 3 day period and eventually an EMCS due to FTP. Never got past 3cm.

Anyway this time I agreed I was happy to try for a VBAC but I didn't want any sort of induction at all. My strategy was that if I went into labour myself I had a better chance of it being successful and if not I would have the ELCS.

DH and I had totally given up on me going into labour and then typically yesterday I started having cramps and contractions. By 6pm they were every 7mins or so, lasting around 30/45 seconds. By 11pm they were every 4mins so labour ward told me to come in.

I had a show before I left home and then when they examined me I was only about 1cm dilated. Due to previous CS they kept me in and sent DH home. Still having v regular contractions, haven't slept at all and just about surviving on my tens machine.

Really don't know what to do now. On the one hand I would like to give the VBAC a go but they said it could still be hours/days before I am in established labour....if it ever happens. Really don't want a repeat of last time where we had no sleep for days and days and were quite traumatised.

We were psyched up for the CS and as the date had become so close had booked childcare for dd, booked DH's paternity leave etc. So waiting for days and potentially ending up with a CS anyway and then further days in hospital is not ideal.

Think they will examine me again around 8 or 9ish and see if I have dilated at all which will help in making a decision. But I really don't know what to do, help!

SunnyUpNorth Thu 27-Dec-12 06:25:07

Ps stopped timing contractions as was getting too difficult with tens machine too but think theyre consistently around every 4mins still and around a minute long. On advice of the midwife I've been trying to rest rather than move around and get things going.

Notafoodbabyanymore Thu 27-Dec-12 06:36:17

I would probably wait to be examined again, and set myself a target (eg, if I'm more than 3cm I'll stick it out, if not go for CS)

I had a long, long labour followed by EMCS with DD, so with DC2 due in April, I may be in a similar situation. Although I'd love to try for a VBAC, I so don't want my first few weeks to be like last time due to utter exhaustion from the word go.

Hope it all goes well and you are happy with whatever choice you make.

Jacksmania Thu 27-Dec-12 06:37:18

<offers to hold hand until the day shift arrive>

I'd wait and see what examination reveals and go from there. Personally, unless you really start progressing, I'd go for the ELCS. The thought of going through all that ^ and then possibly ending up with another emergency CS makes me feel quite ill on your behalf.

helebear Thu 27-Dec-12 06:39:11

Morning sunny, I have no experience of this but thought I'd reply as im wide awake with pregnancy insomnia. I can totally imagine that you don't want a repeat of the very long labour you had before, it sounds very traumatic. Maybe you can see what's happening when they examine you in a few hours & take it from there? If you're progressing do you think they'd postpone c section until later today so you can see if your labour will progress naturally but put a limit on how long you are willing to wait for things to progress if not much is happening? I've no idea how realistic this is btw.

In the meantime can you have a bath to help with the pain & kill some time before they examine you? The fact that you've cracked out the tens machine sounds positive to me as there must be something going on IYSWIM!

I'll be thinking of you.

SunnyUpNorth Thu 27-Dec-12 06:49:36

Wow thanks all, replies already.

My instinct was the same - basically if I was say 3 cm and they could break my waters to encourage things along then I would probably do that but set a time limit for progress.

But I am also scared of missing my CS slot and then if they are v busy later in the day not being able to have a CS and being forced to carry ok even if progress is slow.

The contractions are really painful!! I'm quite surprised, I thought 'natural' contractions would be a walk in the park after induction!

Thanks for your advice and support.

Ps don't want to have a bath as don't want to risk slowing it all down.

RillaBlythe Thu 27-Dec-12 06:50:58

Thinking of you.

Jacksmania Thu 27-Dec-12 06:53:49

Ok, I'm really the worst person to give advice about this (seriously shit trainwreck birth with tons of damage to me) so feel free to ignore but I'd stick with the CS plan unless exam shows you to be really chugging along.
And oh yes, natural contractions hurrrrrrrrrrt!!!!!!!

<squeezes hand>

SunnyUpNorth Thu 27-Dec-12 07:05:06

Thanks Jacks! That's the other thing...if I'm going to have a VBAC I want it to be all very straightforward and cathartic! Couple of contractions, couple of pushes, out it pops,no tears, home in a few hours!

My mum keeps telling me that I really am not missing out by not knowing what childbirth is like!

Quite tempted by the CS I must say, it's just the recovery with a 2 year old that has pushed me towards a VBAC.

Jacksmania Thu 27-Dec-12 07:14:28

But you do know what childbirth is like! You gave birth as much as anyone else did. angry
Aaargh. I hate when people say that you haven't given birth if you've had a CS. Ignorant bullshit.

<locates a grip>
<gives head a shake>
<deep breath>

Ok, keep saying to yourself "sneeze birth or CS, whichever is best for me" with each contraction smile
Like a mantra or an affirmation. Maybe it'll work.

NanoNinja Thu 27-Dec-12 07:15:56

No real experience other than an ELCS, but I would say better the devil you know and go for the CS. Recovery likely (?) to be easier than EMCS, and you have all the arrangements in place. Good luck!

SunnyUpNorth Thu 27-Dec-12 07:32:41

I know Jacks, the midwives keep saying to me 'as you've never been in labour before...'! I had bloody back to back contractions for hours and hours with no epidural last time and just because I didn't dilate past 3cm I apparently haven't been in labour.

With regard to childbirth I mean actually pushing it out.

Yes nano I was hoping ELCS recovery would be good and agree it could be the right decision.

porthcurnick Thu 27-Dec-12 07:54:07

Go for the CS, it's planned and booked, unless you are really cracking on when they examine you.

Recovery will be fine with a 2 year old, if you stick with the vbac you could end up with lots of stitches etc. which will make recovery difficult.

Failed vbac here so I may be biased, but thinking of you in labour for hours and then still ending up with CS after all that.

Very exciting anyway <passes pillow for sqeezing and rubs your back>

blondassassin Thu 27-Dec-12 08:12:08

Hi Sunny, hope you're doing ok. Just wanted to add my experience. Like you I had an EMCS first time around due to FTP. Got pressured into trying for a VBAC with my second for same reasons as you. It was a disaster. I am tall but narrow hipped and had a tiny bump. I was told it was a small baby, no way it could be more than 6 pounds. DS was finally born after a long long labour weighing 9lb 2!! I had so much damage, an episiotomy that resulted in a haemorrhage and more surgery to stop bleeding and a 4 pint blood transfusion! It left me absolutely exhausted, in a lot of pain for weeks with a newborn and a 2 year old to look after. My recovery after the EMCS was so quick and trouble free in comparison. If I could have my time again I would have an ELCS.
Good luck with everything, focus on the fact you will be holding your precious bundle very soon. Your Mum is right, you are not missing anything if you don't experience a VB!

NeverFullyDressedWithoutAScarf Thu 27-Dec-12 08:13:24

I had this! Emcs first time round at 10 cm (took over a sy and I glare at anyone who says I didn't 'do' labour !) Second time round I was desperate for a vbac as felt I had missed one of te great experiences of womanhood.

Things started happening but I went with the elcs and don't regret it at all. It was actually lovely and I had an 18mth old at home and was home in48hrs beginning to end.......,now, the reflux, crying baby for a year, ah yes, that was definitely not so great ![grins] good luck and enjoy whatever you choose!

Yama Thu 27-Dec-12 08:14:46

I'd go for the ELCS.

NeverFullyDressedWithoutAScarf Thu 27-Dec-12 08:14:58

'Over a day' and other phone posting mistakes!

ithaka Thu 27-Dec-12 08:23:03

I'd take the ELCS, if I were you. I pushed all my babies out naturally, so I can confirm that you are really not missing anything.

I would not want to risk a long potentially traumatic labour if it can be avoided. You are mum, you have given birth - be kind to yourself.

SunnyUpNorth Thu 27-Dec-12 08:33:53

Thanks all, think I am veering that way.

Blond assassin - I would be very scared of that happening to me. A very good friend of mine had a similar experience and found her vb delivery harder to recover from than her EMCS and wishes she had an ELCS.

Will let you know. Thanks so much.

RooneyMara Thu 27-Dec-12 08:34:07

Can they still do a CS if you're having frequent contractions? I suppose that is thick question of the day...of course they can blush

I hope it goes well whatever you choose to do. Fwiw I don't quite get why they are assuming you can't do it this time, just because things got a bit stuck last time. It seems a bit defeatist iyswim? Not that a CS would be any sort of defeat but your body sounds like it knows what it is doing smile

Good luck and keep us posted.

TheBeanAndTheBee Thu 27-Dec-12 08:56:33

Second time around i went into labour the night before my booked c-section, and although there were no choices to be made (natural birth not an option) I do remember the panic! So no advice really just hand holding! Let us know what you decide. Incidentally was home after 24 hours after the section with a newborn and a 14 month old to look after and thank goodness I did have the section, recovered really quickly and wasn't totally shattered before I even started. Disclaimer: i have never had a natural birth so nothing to compare it too! Good luck with whatever you decide.

MissLToeishavingsantasbabyboo Thu 27-Dec-12 09:25:00

Just wanted to wish you luck whichever way you give birth.

Flisspaps Thu 27-Dec-12 09:35:22

Whatever happens, good luck! You're going to have your lovely baby soon grin

Good luck smile

bealos Thu 27-Dec-12 09:40:27

Good luck! Sounds like you are doing amazingly. Being on a ward (presume this is where you are?) on your own over night and managing contractions without any support is really hard work and you have done really really well to get this far.

Do remember that there's no 'magic' in that 3cm - it's just what medical professionals use to gauge there monitoring. You could go from 3cm to 10cm in a few hours... or days.... there's really no knowing.

Are you able to labour at home at all?

Notafoodbabyanymore Thu 27-Dec-12 10:49:31

How's it all going? Been thinking of you this afternoon (I'm in Australia, hence the time difference)

Seriously, remember the nightmare of labouring for hours on syntocinon, getting back up on the bed to be examined and finding I hadn't progressed at all - so demoralising!

Hope things are moving quickly for you, or you've gone into theatre.

timothyclaypole Thu 27-Dec-12 10:57:55

Hiya. I was booked in for an elcs after a back to back emcs with ds1 ( and we have absolutely had the real labour experience!), but went into labour 4 days before the set date. I briefly considered continuing naturally but decided that I KNEW what it felt like to recover from a cs, and thus time would be better as we wouldn't have the exhaustion and trauma of going through the natural way first. I made the right decision. We made sure we had lots of help with my 2 yo do I could recover safely. So, I'd go the planned route if I were you.
Good luck smile

Jacksmania Thu 27-Dec-12 16:09:44

Any news?

SunnyUpNorth Thu 27-Dec-12 16:16:50

Hi all,
Still in labour! Has been a bit of a nightmare,labour ward and the theatres were so busy so I kep getting pushed back as wasn't an emergency. Only got gas and air a couple of hours ago after saying I couldn't take it anymore and would just have the CS. Have also just had an epidural put in.

Waters broke on their own, was 4cm and fully effaced a few hours ago so going to be checked again soon and if no real progress will probably have the CS later this afternoon.

At least I know I really have given it my best shot regardless of how baby is born. Can't wait to hold it!

Thanks again for the support and messages.

Jacksmania Thu 27-Dec-12 16:21:20

Oh, the blessed epidural!!! Now you can relax a bit.
Please keep updating when you can smile

ElfOnTheShelf Thu 27-Dec-12 16:25:51

I was in the same position as you as I never dilated more than a fingernail and was in labour for hours days but once the epidural was in they induced me with such a force (unbeknown to me as the epidural was so good) that I opened very quick and had her within an hour. Perhaps ask them to do that and all the best.

Feels a bit jealous you'll be snuggling a baby in a few hours - aw smile

SunnyUpNorth Thu 27-Dec-12 17:17:59

Well just because we don't like to make things easy...baby is now back to back and epidural hasn't quite taken everywhere!!
I am just topping up with the gas and air...I LOVE gas and air.

Jacksmania Thu 27-Dec-12 17:47:31

Oh man [eeek]

Just breathe through contractions - long slow breaths like you're trying to flutter a candle, not blow it out - and hope it's your turn for CS soon!

ElfOnTheShelf Thu 27-Dec-12 17:48:36

Yep DD was back to back hence why it was such a long prolonged labour apparently. I hope you have some joy soon.

Saccrofolium Fri 28-Dec-12 00:47:49

How you doing OP?

Shellywelly1973 Fri 28-Dec-12 00:55:11

Hope your doing ok?

Take care...

CatPussRoastingOnAnOpenFire Fri 28-Dec-12 01:03:54

I hope you u are ok OP. Hopefully you are snuggling a lovely newborn by now.

Vagazzled Fri 28-Dec-12 01:20:50

Hope you're busy snuggling your lovely baby Sunny grin

Jacksmania Fri 28-Dec-12 05:41:18

Have we got a Baby Sunny yet?

Sunny is actually a really cute name for a girl smile

Melody3boys Fri 28-Dec-12 12:13:19

Oooooh just started reading this thread and I'm hooked!

All the best Sunny. I hope and pray you are cuddling that lovely newborn right now.

FWIW I had emcs with #1 then elcs with #2. By the time I was pregnant with #3 I wished I'd tried vbac with #2. (My options reduced with number 3 due to a lot of scar pain during pregnancy and the risks of rupture increasing).

Anyway, you're probably either now:
a) in theatre
b) well into established labour
c) cuddling your lovely baby and not caring two hoots about how he/she got here!

All the best. Let us know as soon as you can x

SunnyUpNorth Fri 28-Dec-12 12:14:49

I am lying in bed snuggling my adorable new little son! He is so cute!

Finally had him at 6.30 this morning....naturally! Labour was quite long but I kept making just enough progress for them to convince me to carry on. Was convinced I'd still end up with a section until they checked me and I was 9cm and it suddenly dawned on me that I might have a natural birth. Ended up with a vontouse as he had turned back to back so every time I pushed him out a bit he popped back in. But it is amazing to think ill be discharged later today and be able to drive and lift my toddler etc. so very happy I stuck with it.

Thanks for all your messages.

Congratulations!! smile

Chathampocket Fri 28-Dec-12 12:27:52

Very well done and many congratulations!!

Yama Fri 28-Dec-12 12:29:44

Yay! Lovely news. And the 28th is a great day to have a birthday.

Oh wow just read this to the end and burst into tears when I saw the result!! Thats fantastic, well done!! Enjoy him

TrazzleMISTLEtoes Fri 28-Dec-12 12:40:05

Congratulations sunny!

Quejica Fri 28-Dec-12 13:22:51

Congratulations! I haven't been able to resist stalking you for the last week ( I shall stop now!) and was pushing for you all night!
It will feel wonderful to be back home so quickly. How much did he weigh and will you tell us his name?

So happy for you smile

SunnyUpNorth Fri 28-Dec-12 13:34:19

Thanks all!

Quejica - he was 8'15 but isn't actually that chunky, just v long. Think he will be tall. We have named him George. He is a cutie pie!

Jacksmania Fri 28-Dec-12 14:55:59

Congratulations Sunny and Baby George!!!!!!!

Melody3boys Fri 28-Dec-12 15:03:34

Welcome to Baby George. And we'll done Sunny for all your hard work. Like Immotaslimjim I'm also nearly in tears! xxxx

TheBeanAndTheBee Fri 28-Dec-12 15:12:23

Congratulations!!

MerryChristMoose Fri 28-Dec-12 15:26:24

Welcome to the world George!

Congratulations Sunny

FlimFlamMerrilyOnHigh Fri 28-Dec-12 15:35:52

Well done you! Congratulations!

blondassassin Fri 28-Dec-12 16:42:58

Congratulations Sunny and welcome to the world George! So pleased it all went well for you and you will be home with your precious bundle very soon. xxx

Aww, I love a live birth thread that I get to late and there's already a lovely squishy newborn at the end of it grin
Congratulations Sunny and welcome baby George smile

lainey1234 Fri 28-Dec-12 17:12:26

Love this thread! Had given me some hope for a natural birth next time around - well done!!

ElfOnTheShelf Fri 28-Dec-12 18:12:39

YAY!! Congratulations Sunny on the birth of little baby George - well done you for sticking with it and having the result you wanted. What a wonderful end to the year smile

ovenchips Fri 28-Dec-12 18:59:00

How lovely. Congratulations and you did fantastically well!

NanoNinja Fri 28-Dec-12 20:07:24

Ah, well done, big congratulations, and welcome baby George!

helebear Fri 28-Dec-12 20:10:25

Congratulations to you & your family! I've been lurking & wondering how you were getting on, lovely news. Enjoy getting to know your little boy. X

Viewofthehills Sat 29-Dec-12 21:04:56

Congratulations, very well done.

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