Recent experiences of Kingston Hospital Maternity Unit

(50 Posts)
Falcon1 Fri 04-May-12 18:07:47

I'm due to have my first baby in September at Kingston and was wondering what people's experiences of the maternity unit are? I've looked at a couple of threads on this topic but they're pretty dated now. I've read that staffing has previously been a problem and that some women have not been able to get rooms, and therefore no pain relief! Also that after care isn't great. Is this still the case? I rather know the real situation so I can prepare myself. Any posts would be really appreciated!

Belchica Fri 11-May-12 23:24:34

Falcon I am having my baby at Kingston in Sept and have a few friends who gave birth there recently and they all have nothing but great things to say about the midwives and care. All had positive experiences and would go back. After care in all London hospitals is hit and miss and I don't think Kingston is an exception, but by no means the worst, by all accounts.

FlirtyThirty Sat 12-May-12 22:51:31

See you at Kingston in September! smile I'll be having my second there then.
It is a busy hospital for sure, but I would highly recommend it.
With my first I was 42 weeks, laboured primarily in Malden suite with lovely midwife, transferred to consultant unit fr delivery due to meconium. Staff were all excellent, inc when I required post partum surgery in theatre.
Rude reception staff were only ssue with concerned visitors in my case...but baby and I were generally treated extremely well.

This time I have had a complicated pregnancy and they have been super! Referrals to all necessary consultants without hesitation.

I aim to return to the Malden suite all being well, and would happily recommend the entire unit.

I also had a friend with a premature baby who was in the NICU - she has nothing but the highest praise for it! Worth knowing...

Good luck!

first1 Sun 13-May-12 12:30:42

It was shit. Never ever going back. Ever. Dd and I were chucked out at 1am to cater for the poor labouring woman left on a trolley for hours due to no beds/ short staff. I was stitched so unsucfixiebtly that I ended up forking out best part of £4000 to be restitched privately and properly. Not a rushed botched job due to staff shift change overs. And I'm not the only one. THREE of my close friends have made formal complaints about Kingston maternity. One was left bleeding turned out to be a massive pph because nobody answered the bell.

KatieMiddleton Sun 13-May-12 12:37:30

I am under Kingston but had my last baby at home and plan to again. Care at birth was great last time but antenatal care not do good because MW went AWAL and I got really bad anaemia because she wasn't checking my bloods. This time round the care seems much better.

Several people I know have had babies at Kingston. In September there's a peak in birth rate and it will be busy so you may not get one-to-one MW care although they try to offer that apparently.

What are your other options? West Mid? Queen Charlottes? St George's?

first1 Sun 13-May-12 12:52:13

St George's or Epsom in a heartbeat. Absolutely fantastic.

MiaR Sun 13-May-12 16:56:15


So, if all goes well I'm having my first baby in January (yay!). It's only sinking in and I have to quickly decide between Kingston and Chelsea and Westminster Hospitals. I read a lot of positive feedback on Kingston, which is making me think it's a good choice. Anyone want to share their thoughts on Chelsea and Westminster Hospital?

Thanks for your feedback in advance.

Falcon1 Tue 15-May-12 10:28:45

Thank you all for the replies. I'm feeling a bit more reassured!

weddingseason Tue 15-May-12 10:42:44

I have had 3 at Kingston - one in the Malden Suite. With each baby I can't fault them while I was actually in labour, lovely midwives each time but, as with most places, the after care left a lot to be desired and I discharged myself as soon as possible. For me though the actual birth and getting my babies delivered safely was the most important thing and on that I can't fault them. You will be fine I'm sure.

Ecgwynn Tue 15-May-12 11:14:21

sorry about lack of caps, baby on boob.

i had my son 2 1/2 weeks ago in the malden suite at kingston. the care there and on the post natal ward was excellent. i thoroughly recommend kingston.

StarshitTerrorise Tue 15-May-12 12:15:53

I'm trying to get a homebirth with them. Any advice?

KatieMiddleton Tue 15-May-12 12:48:35

I had my first DC under them at home and planning to do the same with next dc due in the Autumn. You're welcome to PM me Star.

StarshitTerrorise Tue 15-May-12 12:49:51

Thank you Katie, I will do.

KatieMiddleton Tue 15-May-12 12:53:29

I'll have a look later as I'm just off out smile

Dottymcdot Thu 17-May-12 17:06:27

West middlesex all the way great care during labour and lovely post natal care, they seemed human, whereas at Kingston they did not. The difference between the two was so great that I wrote to the hospital's director to thank them for their wonderful care.

WhenDoISleep Thu 17-May-12 17:41:47

I had DS2 at Kingston 13 days ago.

Antenatal care was through the Fountain Community Midwives - this was good and by dint of having apps on the same day every time I actually saw the same MW at all apps except once when she was on leave.

Scans and first booking and GTT were at the hospital - generally okay but lots of waiting.

In the last week of pg I had to go into maternity triage once which was fine care was good but again I had to wait a long time.

Day before birth I saw a consultant re going post-42 weeks - consultant/MW fine but again long waits as there is a first come first seen system in operation.

I gave birth on the Malden Suite, but only just -DS2 was born 5 mins after we arrived so I can't say much about the care in labour but the delivery was great, everybody was very calm despite the dramatic entrance we made. Post natally we spent 5 or so hours on Malden Suite and the care from the MW's and the Midwife Support Assts was really good.

DS2 was found to have an infection, so he was taken to the Neonatal unit briefly. The medical care for him from the peadiatric doctors was fantastic. Due to the infection, we ended up staying on the Transitional Care postnatal ward for 5 nights/ 6 days. The medical care for DS2 was fantastic over that time (he was with me on the ward, not on Neonatal, but he did make some trips back there when there were concerns).

Post natal was about as bad as I thought it might be - we tried to get an amenity room but there were non available - these are not separate dedicated rooms, they are just the single rooms on post natal which might be needed for other patients, so i ended up on a 4 bed ward. There were a couple of fantastic MWs and MSAs and a couple of bad ones as well.

BF advice is appalling - very keen on giving formula top ups, inconsistent advice, incorrect advice etc. There seems to be a new point at which there is concern over weight loss in a newborn -7% as opposed to the more usual 10%, which seems to have become the Kingston standard in the last few months - but I am going to have a rant elsewhere about that. Food wise, having had 6 days experience, breakfast is dire, lunch and supper are generally ok. Bathrooms are revolting.

Parking charges are a nightmare, you can get a parking pass for 24 hrs for £6, but you can only get one of those (I.e. for the day you go in in labour).

Discharge can take forever - one lady was told she would be discharged at 1 but the paperwork didn't get done until the night shift came on, so she didn't leave until after 9 at night. I was told I would be discharged by 3pm, ended up not leaving until 8pm, as the afternoon MW raised a concern about me so ended up having blood tests / the OB doctor look at me (nothing more than stress after 6 days in hospital away from an ill DS1 and a developing cold).

Post natally I was seen by West Middlesex / St Helier MWs - fine but perfunctory care.

I was originally due to have a home birth with the community MWs, which was all signed off fine, but I changed my mind on where I wanted to deliver in the end.

Feel free to PM me if you want any further info.

Archip17 Sun 20-May-12 21:53:02

I had a waterbirth in the Malden Suite 13 weeks ago. It was utterly brilliant - I found the midwives there to be fantastic (much better than the antenatal care - which I found to be rushed and I never saw the same midwife twice - but it's a busy hospital so this is no surprise).

My labour was pretty quick so I had the same midwife throughout who popped in and out and advised me when she'd be back etc, for the last two hours she was there constantly monitoring baby's heartbeat every fifteen mins.

The room I was in with the pool was huge and after I'd given birth and been stitched up I thought they'd kick me out ASAP so someone else could have the pool but I was helped to have a wash in the ensuite bathroom there and given breakfast. The facilities were clean and modern. I was lucky enough to get a room on my own afterwards which although I didn't stay overnight (because I just wanted to be at home) made a difference as I was just able to lie there quietly with my son. I agree the food is pretty dire though!

I also went in a few days before my son was born because I had a panic I couldn't feel him moving - the triage there were brilliant and so kind and reassuring.

I know I had a very good experience and not everyone is so lucky, but I think overall they do an excellent job there considering how overstretched they are. I would definitely go to Kingston again and recommend it. From what I have heard it is far superior to other nearby hospitals like West Mid.

Good luck!

Emmajanebraybrook Fri 07-Sep-12 12:02:33

I have had my 3 boys at Kingston last was in march and all of the staff were fantastic, my midwife Anna was amazing my partner took her a box of chocolates the next day for being so great and making his birth a lovely experience! Hope this helps and good luck x

leannac Fri 07-Sep-12 13:02:17

I had an awful experience there 15 months ago. Bad enough care that even though I had a really bad haemmorage & came close to dying, I've decided to have 2nd baby home birth with emergency transfer to st helier if needed. I know two mums currently taking up cases for medical negligence there. I was offered the chance to do the same but didn't want to make money out of the hospital as that's not the point so I opted for a formal complaint & had apologies & reassurances that more training will happen this year for staff.

I only know 1 out of 17 mums who had non eventful 'natural' labour there as intended. However there seem to be bad reviews & bad experiences at all hospitals local to the area (a few wks from my experience a woman with similar bleeding actually died at at George's) which is why I'm biting the bullet & going for home birth. Ironically it seems to be safest choice for me!

TJ34 Thu 14-Mar-13 10:47:34

i am considering going to Kingston hospital again for my 2nd baby. Going private again. has anyone had Mr Nick Anim deliver their baby? i believe his the only private obg at kingston now.

ExPatMum2 Sat 16-Mar-13 12:04:59

I'm curious about Dr. nick Anim as well. scheduled to meet with him tuesday.

Goodwordguide Sat 16-Mar-13 12:11:05

I had DD at St Georges and DS at Kingston - much much preferred Kingston, the MWs were fantastic, competent and pleasant, and the hospital felt much cleaner and calmer.

BardOfBarking Sat 16-Mar-13 12:31:16

I had Andrew Pooley as my consultant, privately, at Kingston. He was AMAZING!!!! Ensured that I had skin to skin in theatre (C-section) whilst he was stitching, ensured that all but the operating lights were turned off and it was an utterly joyous event.

(5 years ago)

TJ34 Sun 17-Mar-13 07:06:34

i would be interested to hear what you think about Nick Anim. please let me know.
miss meena shankar delivered my 3yr in 2010 but she no longer doing private. she was fantastic.
another thought of mine was going to Chelsea Westminster hospital.

Smiley2014 Sun 26-May-13 20:34:50

I am expecting my 1st in January 2014. smile

I have the same decision to make, Kingston or chelsea .... Private or not.

I am finding it really difficult and it's such an important decision as I don't want to be put off having any more

MrsSpagBol Tue 28-May-13 08:43:29

Anyone going to Kingston in July? Mixed bag of reviews here ....looking for (more) reassurance!

extracrunchy Tue 28-May-13 08:52:17

I was at West Mid and they were brilliant - are you too far to try there?

I had my homebirth. Fantastic, BUT, I did hire a doula which I think got me the more experienced midwife to attend.

IAteTheCake Tue 28-May-13 19:37:30

I will be there at Kingston to having dc 2 in August by ELCS. This decision was due to a traumatic birth there in May 2011 with dd which ended in a cat 1 emcs. Wasn't hugely impressed by the care pre or post birth but they were good in an emergency. I am nervous about going through the experience there watching with interest....

OdaBear Wed 29-May-13 15:26:32

I had my first son at Kingston in 2011. My community midwife team (Fountain) were and still are excellent. They were very encouraging of home birth option the first time, but this didn't work out as I had meconium in my waters. Went on to deliver safely in the labour ward. The midwives were excellent (albeit a little emotional?!). Aftercare was fine - they really helped with feeding overnight and the next day before we were discharged. (I'm a nurse also, so I don't know if that changed anything from their point of view).

I subsequently returned to the ward as I was having trouble with breastfeeding. One midwife named Chris spoke to me on the phone, and invited me to come in for a chat to her for advice, and for her to observe a feed. She made time for me, despite it being the end of her shift. She even found me a room to sit in, gave me a lot of support and encouragement. I later found out that she is a total pro with breastfeeding advice, so if she is still there and on duty when you are, do try and speak to her.

Am having second baby (anytime now I hope), in Kingston - hopefully in the Malden Suite.

Good luck. PM me if you like.

Titine29 Sat 08-Jun-13 14:12:21

I had DD at kingston hospital few years ago, and the care was really good at the hospital. The after care was not so great (after being discharged from hospital).

I now had my DS at kingston few weeks ago and was again really happy with the care provided by the hospital. I was referred to an obs consultant during pregnancy, and he was really good, really took the time to listen and followed me all the way thought.
Once in the hospital it was really good, good Mw, good medical team, clean room. I had the same MW for the whole labour, she stayed with me and monitor me all the time which i found reinsuring. I was lucky enough to have a single room as they were not too busy (rare) which was really nice to rest after birth.
However, the breakfast was horrid and I was not happy with the after care/post hospital. care. I live in putney, so once discharged from the hospital, I was 'looked after' by the St George's hospital community MW. This means that, if any problems I should then have to go to st George's hospital and not kingston! The MW came once at home, but then I had to go to Wandsworth for following appointments which was not convenient at all for me (one of the reason to pick kingston was the location). My last appointment with the MW, before being discharged, was really useless: she discharged me, without checking my blood pressure, checking that my uterus was contracting correctly, didn't check my stitches (just asked if they were ok... How would I know?!) etc...not sure why I had to go there ... Except for weighing my DS (could his not be done in Putney and the rest over the phone them?)
Anyway, would def. recommend kingston hospital, as for me the most important part was the actual experience during the pregnancy and at the hospital. Didn't hear very good things about Chelsea.

Good luck, PM if you would like.

shaktar Thu 01-Aug-13 21:24:21

I had a private elcs with Mr Anim a couple of weeks ago at Kingston so feel free to PM me if you have any questions I can help with.

MrsOakenshield Thu 01-Aug-13 21:31:33

I have no personal experience of Kingston (aside from the fact that 42 years ago my mother lied about her address so as to have me at Queen Mary's, Roehampton, having had an appalling experience at Kingston) but I'm puzzled about the choice between Kingston and Chelsea & Westminster - surely these 2 hospitals are nowhere near each other and so one would involve a long journey?

LadyCelia Fri 02-Aug-13 11:50:41

Depends where you live MrsO If you live somewhere like Barnes or Sheen (where the Dr prefers you to go to Kingston but you do have a choice) C&W is actually closer to get to, but not by much. I had my children at Queen Charlottes but had to go to Kingston for the aftercare (which was shit. Truly.)

juniper9 Mon 05-Aug-13 00:07:16

I'm currently at George's but have just moved to kingston, so thinking about swapping hospitals as it'll take about 45 minutes to get to Tooting, which might be too much.

Has anyone got experience of both these hospitals to compare? I have to give birth on the labour ward as I have strep b, so if anyone has any experience of this in particular!

Inka2013 Tue 27-Aug-13 15:27:49

Hi Juniper9!
I'm new to the Kingston Hospital too, but have been there for my appointments and always felt cared for well. I'm now 38 weeks and due to give birth there. I am also GBS+ so will be giving birth on the labour ward. Have you given birth yet? If so, where? If not, have you made your mind up? I will share my experience after the event ;)

Wombat79 Mon 02-Sep-13 20:22:43

Hi inka. Canard you not allowed on Malden suite if you have group b strep then? I am in Kingston and really wanted to try for the Malden suite

littleomar Mon 02-Sep-13 22:49:35

I had my second in the Malden in 2010 and had IV antibiotics for strep B. I had it as a precaution because I'd tested positive for strep B with first baby, don't know if it would be different for an active infection or if policy has changed.

I had my first on the main delivery ward in 2007. Both good birth experiences with great midwives. Postnatal not as good and breast feeding support was rubbish. Single/double rooms a massive bonus!

Inka2013 Wed 11-Sep-13 10:45:24

Hi Wombat79!
You should be able to get antibiotics at the Malden suite. It is a 15 -30 min drip through a cannula in your hand and you only need to have it every 4 hours so you should be able to move freely after each dose. Perhaps call them to check in advance. Just make sure you get there on time so they have enough time to give you at least two doses at least 2 - 4 hrs before you deliver the baby. My GP recommends getting to the hospital once I have regular strong contractions. I think I'll be off the moment they are regular even if they are 15-20 mins apart and I will making sure I get the antibiotics straight away, especially if my waters are gone. I'd like to avoid getting there late and having to give the antibiotics to the baby directly after the birth. I chose the labour ward again with my second bubba as I'd like to have an option of having an epidural. I had a difficult first birth so I know I will be calmer knowing there are all the medical options available should something go wrong. Good luck to you and all expecting mums! I'm 40 weeks tomorrow and still waiting! smile

juniper9 Wed 11-Sep-13 11:55:01

Hi Inka- I'm 37+3, so a few weeks behind you (although I'm 38+3 according to my dates, so we'll see!)

I have a meeting with the obstetrician tomorrow, so that'll be my first chance to see inside the hospital. I have to give birth on the delivery suite due to an increased heart rate during pregnancy, as well as the Strep B, so that choice has been taken out of my hands. One less thing to have to decide upon, I guess.

Have you given birth yet?

Inka2013 Sat 14-Sep-13 13:38:05

Hi! I hope your meeting went well. I'm 40+2 today and we're still 2 in 1! smile I'm starting to get a bit impatient and don't fancy being artificially induced either so am trying to keep positive, happy and calm. My theory is = happy, calm and loved mummy will result in a flow of oxytocin which should brim on natural contractions soon... Fingers crossed it happens soon. I will post about my experience in Kingston after the birth. If you beat me to it I wish you heaps of good luck and hope it all goes well for you. ;)

LadyBP Sun 15-Sep-13 21:15:50

Did you decide to book with Mr Anim in the end? if so, what did you think?

LadyBP Sun 15-Sep-13 21:18:17

Sorry - that last msg was meant for TJ34

Inka2013 Sun 22-Sep-13 16:56:51

I'm 41+3 today and still no baby!! I'm booked for an induction at the Kingston Hospital on Tuesday. I tried everything to avoid it and nothing has worked so far.. So frustrated! sad I don't care how she arrives anymore as long as she's healthy...

juniper9 Mon 23-Sep-13 20:28:08

Good luck Inka for tomorrow! Having weird cramps at the moment, so fingers crossed I'll be joining you!

MrsLTH Tue 24-Sep-13 20:35:18

I gave birth at Kingston in 2011. I had to go to theatre afterwards (not the hospitals fault I don't think) then my baby developed an eye infection which meant we stayed in transitional care for a week and a half. I got my own room which was great. It looked out over the midwife station and reception so I saw a lot!
I would say the senior staff eg pediatricians, surgeons, matrons etc were excellent. There were also a couple of absolutely outstanding midwives. I'm afraid some of the midwives left a lot to be desired though.
A couple of the worst examples include missed doses of my baby's antibiotics through manual error which is unforgivable, midwives taking him away to administer eye drops then him coming back with eye still crusted over and obviously not bathed to let drops in.
I understand they are busy and understaffed
etc but as i say I could see the midwife station and there was defiantly a bit of Topshop website browsing going on!
As the transitional care unit shared kit with the prem unit there often weren't breast pumps available when I needed which meant I had to ask/beg for them constantly which isn't what I needed when i was trying to pump on a three hour feeding cycle! Overall I would say that the serious situations would be covered well but the day to day could be improved. It was bad enough for me to not go there for my second babies (twins!) I am going to St Georges instead

Reddress123 Sun 29-Sep-13 15:46:35

Hi all
I just moved to the UK and decided to have my second child in Kingston and know very little about the antenatal care. I'm having my first scan on Wednesday at 2pm but I have a flight (for work sad) at 6.10pm from heathrow. Do you think I'll make it? Is there a long waiting time? Otherwise I'll change it for a 7.10pm just to be on the safe side...

LadyCelia Mon 30-Sep-13 22:16:25

I'd change it if I were you. I always had to wait at least 90 mins for the appointments (but this was a couple of years ago so hopefully things have improved since then). But the traffic round the hospital & Kingston in general at the moment is shocking due to roadworks, so you'd be pushing it to get to Heathrow for a 6pm flight.

Pachacuti Mon 30-Sep-13 22:21:57

I've had three (one EMCS, two VBAC) at Kingston and been very happy... but most recent was two and a half years ago so not up to date (a friend had her DS there almost exactly a year ago, though, and was also very happy). The big plus is the small postnatal rooms -- a much better experience than the Chelsea and Westminster postnatal wards, from what my friends tell me.

The paediatrician who discharged DD2 messed up a bit, though (noticed some soft indicators for (what turned out to be) her hearing loss but dismissed them as "merely cosmetic". But that didn't have any long-term effect on her condition.

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