LGI v Jimmys V Harrogate?(43 Posts)
Can I have advice on the above choices? We are currently booked in to LGI, hoping to be in the MLU section & have waterbirth if a pool is free, but am now (at 30 wks) having a panic that weve not really considered the other choices. I have heard quite good things about Harrogate recently (live at the very edge of north leeds so distance wise its almost as near as LGI anyway), but they only have 1 pool, whereas I think LGI have more (although I cant seem to find out how many at the moment). We have tour of Harrogate booked for 1st July and tour of LGI on 21st July. The info on Jimmys on the NHS site seems to suggest they dont have any pools, is that still correct does anyone know? I had though they did now.
Have next MW appointment on Wed next week so will talk to her about it as well, but just wanted to see what experiences anyone had on here.
Sorry if this appears twice, I thought I'd posted earlier, but can't see it!
I had my DD at Harrogate 6 months ago & agree with everyone else about how fab it was.
I just want to follow up my comment. I had my second baby at Harrogate and the care I received in the labour and postnatal ward has been amazing. Much much better than LGI. I stayed for 5 nights and I can truly say that I was a bit sad to leave as the support I received was so great, particularly with breastfeeding (I had a not larching janduiced baby and needed lot of help). Even the foid was great! I am not planning any other baby but if I was I will definitely choose harrogate again.
I know I biased having had 2 CSs (with excellent recent care at Harrogate by the way, sooooo much better postnatal care than LGI), but why the emphasis on CS rates? Having a CS isn't the end if the world and is often life saving.
The problem with gross statistics like this is they don't show the reason they are high/low. It's possible that the staff at Harrogate are more cautious and intervene with CS more than other hospitals resulting in the higher rate. It's equally plausible that they allow more patient choice and don't try to force people to try and have a VB when they don't want one for whatever reason as numerous threads here suggest happens elsewhere.
Also i think age is a risk factor for EMCS and given the demographics of the area would not be surprised if women giving birth in Harrogate were older on average so that might have a bearing.
Anyway, I would highly recommend Harrogate for anyone having an ELCS as mine was well organised, all my questions were answered at the pre op assessment, the post natal ward is clean with really helpful staff who actually had time to support breast feeding etc (unlike LGI) and even the food was good!
I had DS1 at LGI 11 weeks ago an have to say the care whilst delivering was fantastic. After arriving at hospital and bring assessed at 9cm dilated they still ran a birthing pool for me as I had expressed a wish to try and birth in the pool. I was only in the pool for 15 minutes before DS arrived but I am very grateful they listened to my wishes and allowed me a water birth! I was taken to theatre after as a had a bad tear and the midwife stayed with me the whole time and was extremely supportive. HOWEVER the care on the post natal ward left a lot to be desired! I was told i could be discharged the same day only to be told at 7:30pm they didn't have time to do my discharge papers sk had to stay in a night. However it was very busy and they seemed very short staffed so was left to own devices which was quote scary for a 1st time mum!
I have heard similar experiences about jimmys as well, that delivery care is fantastic but post natal care can be quite hit and miss. I only know 1 person who has had a baby at Harrogate and they had a fantastic experience although as far as I was aware they didn't have any birthing pools if that was something you were interested in, I have also heard about the high c-section rates at Harrogate.
I am in the process of considering Harrogate- well I am booked in there (whatever that means) even though I want a home birth.
I am a bit confused by what the high c-section rate is? Surely it cant be down to the staff/hospital but the women/babies who need emergency c-sections? Or am I being stupid.
I am a first time mum and panicking at the thought of ending up in hospital at all, without even thinking about c-section rates!
I gave birth in LGI in 2010. Support during labour was so-and-so. The midwife was awful, but the anestetist who gave me an epidural was very good and professional and so was the student midwife, actually she was more supportive than the midwife. The postnatal care was awful, the ward was overcrowded (8 mums+8 babies in the same room+visiting relatives) with very little privacy and peace. Impossible to sleep or rest. Had trouble breastfeeding and staff was not very helpful. Ended up discharging myself sooner than I ideally would have wanted to, and opting for bottlefeeding just because I could not bear the thought of staying in that place one night longer. I am now expecting my second and considering Harrogate as I really do not want to go back to LGI but reading on this thread about the higher C-section rate in harrogate is making me doubt.
Harrogate has one birthing pool. I've just had DD at Harrogate. Even though the delivery did not go quite to plan (ended up having an emergency c section) - the care was second to none, and I highly recommend the hospital. The staff in both the delivery suite and postnatal wards were fantastic. They have a small number of 'amenity rooms' available in the postnatal ward which offer a single room with ensuite for a small charge. Well worth paying for, as it really helped me get some sleep for the few nights I was in (1 night on the ward and 2 nights in an amenity room). If I were to have any more children, I would not hesitate to go back to Harrogate.
Not too fussed about pools though it might be nice to have the option. It looks like i'll have to be referred to a consultant....not sure if this will make any difference but i'll have a chat with my mw about it.
LGI have 3 pools (I think) and Jimmys definitely have one or more. Don't know abut Harrogate
I had ds1 and 2 at jimmys and had no problems it was clean and midwives were helpful but it felt very busy.
I had dd at Harrogate 2 weeks ago. It seemed so much calmer. The wards were smaller and very clean.
Thanks Choccybaby. I've heard Harrogate's good...the only thing that puts me off is that the Leeds hospitals are bigger with more specialists, etc. A friend had a baby at Harrogate though and also really recommended it.
I had DC1 at LGI some years ago by EMCS and found the emergency care good, but post natal ward filthy and understaffed.
Am now booked for an ELCS at Harrogate which is much cleaner and staffing looked better when I went for my pre-op assessment. I've found the antenatal care good and have had my wishes for an ELCS respected. Post natal ward seems to have quite a lot of side rooms too which I found LGI lacked when I was there.
I've jot my first mw appointment next week and am unsure where to say I want to give birth (I know you can change at any time) so I thought I'd resurrect this thread and see if anyone had anything to add.
Had DD 16 months ago at Jimmy's. Fab antenatal ward. Ensuite bathroom in delivery suite. Great midwife and 1-2-1 attention. Ended in EMCS which was fine, theatre staff great. BUT horrible experience on the postnatal ward.
Any thoughts/comments appreciated
Anyone who is booked for Leeds needs to be aware that they may go to either hospital depending on staff, how busy it is, etc., so please don't set your hearts on one or the other.
My friend had a bad experience at Harrogate but perhaps she was just unlucky. To be honest if you don't live in Harrogate I would choose Leeds, the postnatal wards are pretty awful (apart from transitional care) but the expertise of the medical staff in particular is probably worth it. There are more cots as well if DCs need any help.
Will jump into an old thread here - am 28 weeks and am booked into Harrogate (I live in far NW Leeds), my care so far has been superb and I've heard wonderful things from ladies who have given birth there. Only has one pool so have to hope the other ladies there on the night can't swim!
Only have experience of Jimmy's-gave birth there in Dec (in labour at the hospital for 36 hours and stayed in 3 nights afterwards). Absolutely fantastic care from the initial assessment unit through ante-natal ward, delivery suite and post-natal ward. All the midwives I had experience of were brilliant, couldn't fault any of them-really kind and couldn't do enough to help, especially with bf afterwards. I had a private room on the post natal ward which was great -definitely recommend that (especially as we don't seem to have been charged for it!). No birthing pools unfortunately but I would recommend Jimmy's for an ordinary birth and would definitely go back if I was to have a second baby.
working - lgi lovely staff but overworked...
not re nowned for cleanliness
I gave birth at Jimmy's in 2009. Staff were great during delivery but postnatal ward was one of the worst experiences of my life, really cruel midwife ROARING at me and shouting that I should get up and pick up wipes I had dropped on the floor (I had a catheter in and no movement in my legs!). Won't go into it in any more detail... Booked at LGI now but considering homebirth
I'm currently 29 weeks and trying to decide between these three hospitals and the MLU at Pontefract. Might look into Harrogate as had sort of dismissed it. Thanks for the new update.
old thread sorry to bump but just wanted to echo...
lgi great care during del but truly awful aftercare
properly dirty - bloody towels on floors etc - had to clean bath and loo before use
harrogate care good (uncomplicated) and so clean and pleasant
Have a look at something called the Dr Foster guide on the internet, and also Birthfriendly accreditation - helps you compare hospitals. I was booked in to LGI but had some really bad experiences there with ante-natal care and changed to Calderdale Hospital in Halifax at 34 weeks and was so glad I did. Maternity unit was brand new and lovely, they had plenty of staff and nice private rooms where you stayed for labour, birth and afterwards, parked right outside no problems and staff were wonderful totally respected my wishes and birth plan - would highly recommend. Have heard similar, great things of Harrogate too. I chose Halifax as live in NW Leeds and was as easy to get to as Harrogate.
thanks chickbean, good to know. We actually have our LGI tour tomorrow, so will see. A friend just had her baby their and said it was excellent - so we're still dithering tbh!
Don't know if you're still deciding Cosmosis but I had two fantastic waterbirths at Harrogate.
thanks for your input everyone!
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