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tips on surprise caesarean

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woodstock3 · 21/05/2007 18:21

First baby just diagnosed breech at 41 weeks (tiny detail everyone previously missed, inc consultant who confidently pronounced it optimally positioned 60 secs before scan revealed it was, duh, upside down) so am having caesarean in 12 hours time...in all the commotion forgot to ask the really useful questions, like what should now go in my hospital bag - guessing i wont need the swiss ball/carefully selected labour snacks/massage oil etc? and afterwards - know im not supposed to lift stuff but can i carry the baby in the sling we've got (baby bjorn that goes on yr front)? or lift unfeasibly large macho pushchair that DH bought up and down steps? do you still bleed as much afterwards? will bfeeding still work? grateful for any other advice....

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pesme · 21/05/2007 18:24

yes you will bleed, yes breastfeeding should work but ask for lots of help. get some BIG pants. straws to help you drink. apart from that, good luck - v. envious!

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pesme · 21/05/2007 18:24

oh and shave your fanjo unless you want them to do it for you.

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hertsnessex · 21/05/2007 18:25

Caesarean Birth ? Made Personal

Ways of making it as personal as possible ? do you want the screen removed?; a running commentary from the midwife?; music?; silence for when the baby is born so yours is the first voice baby hears?; can baby be delivered on to your chest?; have someone take photos of the bits you can't see e.g. when baby is weighed; dimmed lights at birth?; delay having baby dressed or fed until you are ready?; no separation from baby?

Sleep with a blanket the night before so that even if you are unable to hold baby immediately baby can be wrapped in your smell.

Positions to breastfeed after a caesarean and what complications may arise and how to deal with them. (I can provide you information if you like)

Preparation for the homecoming - making sure there is extra support in place for longer and we can discuss the healing process if you like. I recommended you read 'The Caesarean" by Michel Odent which you can probably get in a library though it may be too late realistically.

I was a birth doula to a couple who had an elective caesarean earlier this year because of pre eclampsia and she was expecting twins. With regard to what I did - I worked with her on her birth preferences so as to keep the birth experience as positive as possible.

I worked with her pre-birth on creating a 'birth plan' of sorts. it hadn't occurred to her that she had any influence over the birth environment. she went on to choose music for the birth, to ask her team not to engage in chat during surgery, for screen to be lowered and for babe to be passed onto her bare breast. she didn't wear a hospital gown. we used remedies (arnica. aconite and nux vom, also hypericum and calendula) in theatre and she sprinkled her choice of essential oils onto her (own) pillows. the babe was wrapped in her own towels and blankets.

Throughout suturing the atmosphere remained quiet so she could coo and marvel at her daughters, undisturbed. We asked the midwife not to wash or dress babe and did this later, in recovery.
It can make a big difference to a caesarean birth experience to think about what is important to you about birth and how you can keep some of those elements when a caesarean birth takes place. Caesareans are births, and like any birth there are often many ways that the event can be enhanced or personalised. Below is a listed of options that have been arranged by women when their babies have been born by caesarean. Everybody is different and we would be surprised if anyone felt all of the things appealed to them. This is given as a list of ideas to help you think about and plan for a really good birth experience.
For example:
Women have had the screen removed so they can watch the operation, or have used a mirror to watch their baby being born, or have been helped to sit up a little so they can see their baby being born. We know of one woman who was helped by her surgeon to lift her baby out herself.
You may want to make sure that the paediatric unit, resuscitation unit and weighing scales, where the baby is checked over at birth will be in theatre with you so that providing your baby is well (and most caesarean born babies are), he/she need never leave your sight or hearing.
You can ask the midwife to give you a running commentary, and/or for music to be playing, or for quiet in theatre (particularly at the moment of birth). If you ask for quiet at the moment of birth then your voice can be the first voice your baby hears.
You can ask for your baby to be delivered onto your chest, to discover your baby's sex for yourself rather than being told.
You can ask to have photographs taken. Some people like photographs of the baby being lifted out of the incision (others don't!). You can also ask for one of the baby in the weighing scales - a good one because it shows the weight too.
You can ask for the lights to be dimmed for a couple of minutes at the moment of birth. Babies are born with their eyes open so if the lights are dimmed and there is silence, yours can be the first face that comes into view and yours the first voice your baby hears.
You can ask for your baby to be wrapped in a blanket and laid across your shoulder so you and your birth partner can 'baby gaze' while you are being sewn up - it's a wonderful distraction!
You could choose a special soft blanket or towel for baby to be wrapped in (or to be draped over both of you during skin-to-skin). You could sleep with the blanket the night before your CS so that even if you can't hold your baby he/she will be wrapped up and still be able to smell his mother.
You can delay having your baby washed, bathed or dressed until you are back on the maternity ward and have fed him or her for the first time.
You can ask to be shown your placenta and have it explained to you by a midwife.
If your baby is well there should be no reason why he/she should be separated from you in theatre or in the recovery room. Skin-to-skin contact should be facilitated and you should be helped to start to breastfeed when you want to.
If you have a general anaesthetic you might want to give some thought to who should introduce your baby to you when you come around, and who (among family and friends) should be allowed to see your baby before you do if you are so unwell that meeting your baby is delayed.
This is based on normal practice in the UK where it is usual for the woman's birth partner to remain with her throughout the operation. I understand that in some hospitals it is the practice for the birth partner (usually the father) to leave theatre with the baby while the operation is completed. I feel such a policy should be challenged since women should not be left alone and unsupported at such an emotionally crucial time. In most cases the baby will be well and there are important reasons why the new family should not be separated, and why the normal process of bonding should be encouraged.


TOP TIPS!!

Fill your freezer up before you go
Take Arnica before and afterwards to help with healing
Rescue remedy is good too - it feels like you are helping yourself somehow
Get some relaxing music for the theatre if possible
Keep visitors at bay for at least three days
Take some perfume and make up with you!
Magazines are easier to read than books
No pants are too big!
Take your own most comfortable pillow
Take advantage of the nursery so that you can rest

Good Luck,

Cx

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hertsnessex · 21/05/2007 18:26

p.s. this is from some doula info i use.

cx

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hertsnessex · 21/05/2007 18:27

dont think they still shave?...........

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3andnomore · 21/05/2007 18:30

well, they do try to get the scar as low as possible, so, they tend to shave...I know I was shaved for my Emergency C-section...but only as much as necessary...i.e...didn't get a brazilian, lol

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hertsnessex · 21/05/2007 18:33

aahh, ok thanks.

cx

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woodstock3 · 21/05/2007 18:37

thanks everyone esp hertsnessex for all that detail! you mention arnica - have got some arnica cream left over from treating skiing bruises, but is that the right stuff or is it supposed to be tablets? (bit late now but can send DH out for them tomorrow...)

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moodlumthehoodlum · 21/05/2007 18:46

Don't be shy about accepting the morphine they may or may not offer you later in the day. The pain isn't that bad, but there's never any point suffering if you don't need to. Also, some of the painkillers you will have post op can cause you to be constipated, so get dh to bring you lots of fruit, drink lots of water etc etc. Good luck!

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Rosetip · 21/05/2007 18:55

Not much time to add anything but the very best of luck.
I'm having a c/s on Friday and have been getting increasingly nervous, after two previous vaginal births, so perhaps it is a good thing in a way that you will be too busy to dwell on it.
I bought arnica tablets from Boots after reading info on MN.

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ArcticRoll · 21/05/2007 19:00

After the cs-
Peppermint tea- as very 'windy'.

Accept painkillers- no need to suffer afterwards.

Wiggle feet to keep circulation going .

Need lots of help for first few weeks.

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aardfark · 21/05/2007 19:02

I just have to say I LOVE your thread title, I was sort of expecting balloons when I opened it. I had an emergency section and it was lovely. I would really recommend that you get up as soon as poss afterwards and have a wash, it makes you feel more human. Also day five is the killer, take all the drugs they offer and don't worry if it takes a while to get bfing established, it will come, just keep at it. Good luck!

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hertsnessex · 21/05/2007 19:27

arnica pillules - from boots, get 30c if you can.

also - peppermint tea is fab for wind - however too much is not recommended ass it can interfere with your milk supply.

i hope it all goes well.

cx

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yogimum · 21/05/2007 19:33

i would recommend arnica but higher strength than 30. I bought some locally which are 200.

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hertsnessex · 21/05/2007 19:46

i have 200c in my birth kit - but as its short notice and boots is prob the only option i know they dont do above 30c, but if you can get hold of some, then go for it! 200c for the first few days will help alot.

cx

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mum2fo · 21/05/2007 20:51

Really good tips on here already particularly for the birth but I would emphasize big knickers that come right over your scar, something for wind, something for constipation from painkillers ( I drank diluted prune juice), some snacks because you can't eat for some time before the op and if op is delayed you can end up starving hungry, prepare yourself to feel rubbish for a few days and you might be pleasantly surprised!
Good luck

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aardfark · 21/05/2007 21:05

I forgot LIP BALM and lots of it - it's so dry in hospitals, moisteriser and eye gel for the 'just had a baby' bags.

I also found that I needed two dressing gowns, because one was constantly being sent home for washing because of blood/sick/meconium etc.

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macmama73 · 21/05/2007 21:16

Big knickers, comfy trousers, some help at home when you get out of hospital.

One positive aspects was that there was lot less bleeding than vaginal birth. Oh, and the pelvic floor muscles aren't stretched so no weeing when you sneeze afterwards!

Allow yourself time to recover, don't try to do too much too soon. Good luck!

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Chirpygirl · 21/05/2007 21:19

Ooh deja vu, this is exactly what happened to me! How can they not tell they are upside down?!

Anyway, buy big cheap granny pants from tesco/asda as disposables go over the scar.
You will bleed so get maternity pads too.
Take extra pillows as it will make bfing easier.
Make them teach you how to bf lying down and in rugby hold and you should be fine.
Get up and about as soon as you can, it will help.
Don't try and get in a bath without help to get out again.
Take extra clothes
Oh, and books as you will probably be in for 4 or 5 days and it gets very boring feeding alone at night.

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aardfark · 21/05/2007 21:54

And squash for you .....and cakes to bribe the nurses to bring you more drugs

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NikkiBFG · 21/05/2007 21:56

Oooh - I wasn't the only one who got windy after a C section then! My Gran said it was the same when she had her hysterectomy - ward was full of ladeez trumping away and that it was the air getting into the body as result of op???

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Amapoleon · 21/05/2007 21:57

My milk took much longer to come in after my emergency c-section, I have asked around and this seems quite common.

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Amapoleon · 21/05/2007 22:00

Also take any help offered. I feltreally sprightly after mine, i think a combination of post birth glee and all the drugs. I came out of hospital too quickly and really over did it.

I bled the same as a vaginal birth so have a big pile of pads.

Best of luck

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woodstock3 · 21/05/2007 22:03

right thanks to you lot i have now dug out the granny pants, stocked the fridge, stuffed my bag with fruit and peppermint teabags and done my bikini line (well what i could see of it under the overhang of my ludicrously large bump) so feel considerably more prepared! thanks for all the advice, and good luck rosetip - if it's any consolation i texted a friend who's had two VBs to say i needed a section and her exact words were 'jammy cow'.... now off to get some sleep (for the last time in about three years presumably )

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aardfark · 21/05/2007 22:40

Ooh good luck....don't forget to ask them to sew your tummy muscles together extra tight. I have a really flat tummy now thanks to my surgeon.

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