Caulophyllum (30c)

(29 Posts)
RainDancer Wed 21-Nov-12 19:03:16

Has anyone used this from 37 weeks onwards to prepare for labour? It was recommended to me by my local health food shop when I went in to buy some Arnica but now I'm nervous about taking it as I'm not sure whether it carries any risk. I'm also concerned as to whether it will have any effect on the thyroxine medication I take for my Hashimoto's disease (underactive thyroid). Anyone know anything about it? I'm currently 37+4. I will ask my midwife but not due to see her until next week so any Mumsnet advice gratefully received!

YoullScreamAboutItOneDay Mon 26-Nov-12 13:45:29

Slight sidetrack, but at my mother's school (infant teacher) they wipe bruises and bumps with 'magic water' on a pad of cotton wool and apparently it has an amazing success rate.

Not sure if it was creating by someone subtly undermining homeopathy at an early age, or someone who wanted to create willing subjects for future remedies!

ChunkyPickle Sun 25-Nov-12 16:13:11

I didn't take it, or arnica (herbal or otherwise) - went overdue, was induced and EMCS, but recovered very quickly. So I say that not taking Arnica helps you heal, but not taking caulophyllum had no effect (make it through those double negatives if you can)

Anecdotes don't equal evidence, you can't even get a homeopath to explain how it works, or provide any actual proof that it does, and until at least one of those happens there is no reason to believe it does.

Why not spend the money on something that'll relax you instead - which is proven to result in quicker, smoother labours.

homeaway Sun 25-Nov-12 15:54:14

Yes it worked for me , I gave birth bang on my due date, had an easy labour , I started taking it towards the end. I took arnica during labour and recovered from the birth very quickly. Qualified gynocologist recomeneded it.

SamSmalaidh Sun 25-Nov-12 11:54:31

I can understand why midwives (and GPs) do sometimes recommend homeopathy though - if they have very anxious patients without anything really wrong with them, then it does "work". It's a bit condescending/disrespectful though! I use the "special medicine/magic plaster" trick with my 2 year old hmm

unexpectediteminbaggingarea Sun 25-Nov-12 10:14:26

re the midwives recommending homeopathy. Unless they are registered homeopathic practitioners they are breaking the rules of their registration by recommending homeopathy.

Actually even if they are registered practitioners they are still not following their practice guidelines by failing to offer evidence based advice, and probably invalidating their trust's liability insurance to boot.

The NHS use of homeopathy is a disgrace.

Panzee Sun 25-Nov-12 10:13:37

End cruelty to water now!

I guess that's my cup of tea ruined then. smile

picnicbasketcase Sun 25-Nov-12 09:49:42

I can't believe they beat the water with a strap to make it remember the herbs, that's just cruel sad

narmada Sun 25-Nov-12 09:04:10

I think i have a pretty good understsnding of why homeopathy 'works'.

It is either regression to the mean- eg you were going to get better anyway at that point and/or it is a placebo effect, which can be very powerful.

The fact that homeopathy has been proven NOT to work any better than placebo (because it is a sugar pill) is relevant to the OP's post. She was asking about doses, we said it doesn't matter because there is no actual medicine in it.

The fact that honeopathy is used on the NHS is a national disgrace.

Panzee Sat 24-Nov-12 23:04:25

I don't want to think about water remembering wee.

SamSmalaidh Sat 24-Nov-12 22:59:14

So arnica diluted in 100 parts water, and then that diluted in 100 parts water, again and again 30 times until there are no molecules of arnica left, oh and hit with a leather strap of course, so the water "remembers" the arnica, and then put on a sugar pill... "works" hmm

If water can remember things that have once been in it, how come we aren't poisoned by all the chemicals that are remembered by tap water?

mrswee Sat 24-Nov-12 22:48:41

Yes SamSmalaidh I do understand. I also have personal experiance of them working esspecially in the case of Arnica.
I don't mind at all that not every one believes homepathy can work as a complementry theraphy but I find it annoying when people decide that because they think it is tosh or they don't fully understand why it works that other people who have used it sucessfully must be incorrect.

anyway I don't want an argument, I'm 39 weeks pregnant and could do without it but the OP asked for advise about dosage of a particular remedy not an opinion on if it works or not. The NHS use homeopathy and many midwives reconmend the use of particular remedies to aid child birth and recovery.

narmada Sat 24-Nov-12 21:41:06

herbal arnica works. not 'homeopathic' though.

SamSmalaidh Sat 24-Nov-12 21:37:55

mrswee, do you understand how homeopathic remedies are produced, what the number actually means?

SamSmalaidh Sat 24-Nov-12 21:36:59

Arnica works. Homeopathic arnica pills don't contain any arnica though.

mrswee Sat 24-Nov-12 21:35:02

so arnica doesnt work then? hmm

narmada Sat 24-Nov-12 21:30:55

what sam smalaidh said.

spend your money on a nice meal out instead of seeing a 'qualified' homeopath.

Unlike herbal medicines, homeopathic remedies as complete and utter woo smile

SamSmalaidh Sat 24-Nov-12 21:19:14

No, it can't do any harm! Honestly, magic water cannot possibly interact with any medication - you drink water and eat sugar every day.

picnicbasketcase Sat 24-Nov-12 21:16:31

It is indeed your choice but like they say, 'homeopathy - there's nothing in it'.

crunchingautumnleaves Sat 24-Nov-12 21:14:54

I'd consult a qualified homeopath for advice on usage & if it cannot be used with the medication you are on. Midwives, unless they have any training in homeopathy, will probably not know all that much about it.

I took it at 42 weeks last pg on the day before and day of my induction, I have no idea whether it did anything as I'd already started having contractions when they induced me but the labour was quick!?

I do know they won't sell it to you in Australia if you have high blood pressure though.

narmada Sat 24-Nov-12 18:48:10

sugar!

narmada Sat 24-Nov-12 18:47:07

and it definitely will not interact with your thyroxine because it is completely inactive aside from the

Panzee Sat 24-Nov-12 18:46:52

The sugar will be good for a lift during labour. smile

narmada Sat 24-Nov-12 18:44:46

you can if you want but you do know it is just a sugar and water pill, right ;) ?

mrswee Wed 21-Nov-12 21:41:54

thanks for posting this I ddn't know about Caulophyllum but might give it a try after really positive experiances with homepathic remedies in my last birth
here is a good link that tells yoiu all about various homepathic remedies including Caulophyllum.
www.britishhomeopathic.org/hh_article_bank/general_health/beginners_guide_labour_and_childbirth.html

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